The 5 Dumbest Things About Raw Denim

[@Stridewise]

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[@iuhuh10110]

The most annoying thing about selvedge denim is the community. I came to denim through boots and it's amazing how much more stupid misinformation there is than with leather footwear. Like really you can't wash your jeans? Oh you're not supposed to get a single needle hem because it's not "authentic"? Chill dude they're pants.

[@FrownyMascot]

Hahaha I feel you...I have washed a pair of my Kato's in the washer and dryer and they came out perfectly fine 👌

[@jacobtom9736]

I love my chain stitch from bravestar denim

[@Stridewise]

ahahah this, I mean when you first get into a hobby you want to do EVERYTHING right and eventually you chill out. You see in boots and in fitness, two industries i've worked in that are similar in the obsessiveness!

[@theonlybuster]

The community can be quite annoying. I recall once being on a message board and asking about a certain brand's quality with their slim fit. I immediately got replies stating that slim fit was a fad and I should wear tapered or regular fit jeans. Well I wear slim fit (not skinny) because I'm a slender guy and regular fit jeans negatively emphasis my physique. Then I mentioned no wanting to fold up the bottom of my jeans and it was like I kicked a puppy down some stairs.

[@rimaarts]

I mean at first you dont know what you dont know. After? Well about "authentic"... id say depends on your chances of ebaying them later down the lane! Never? Do whatever you want. Maybe? Than depends how much "non authenticity" would lower the price. I just got 2 selvedge pairs. Raw sanforised and one rinse. I dont even want to wear raw pair in a rain before first wash! 😂 and seing that max wear they would get is 10-15h a week and not in summer, i guess first wash is about a year, or 2 down the lane...

[@austinfletcher6375]

I’m living for every time Nick talks to N&F

[@Stridewise]

This makes me so happy I thought I was the only one invested in this series

[@ronaldbrashears9866]

Agree lol

[@whiteshadow666777]

Definitely one of my highlights on this channel

[@Stridewise]

Thought of you when I posted this new one, Austin! kzbin.info/www/bejne/pIbCiGZujrR-p6s

[@giants4105]

100% agree

[@1213Steven]

Bahzad has a refreshing perspective, always enjoy seeing him on the channel.

[@Stridewise]

Absolutely, I love meeting guys who cut through all the neurosis in this world

[@CallSignCobra]

New to the selvedge denim world and I love it. I feel like all the myths are a bit much but when you think about it, it’s part of the journey. As always great video Nick.

[@Stridewise]

Hey thanks Lou! The myths are exhausting and I'm ashamed to say I've propagated my share from the early days of my interest! Loving where I"m at now though, and glad you're on the journey too

[@JoeyLevenson]

I lived in Okayama where the Japanese denim is made, and I had never heard of not washing your jeans, and neither had they, lol. Actually, a lot of Japanese denim used to be called “one wash.” They came already washed. I think a lot of this stuff came from the internet and the wish to be “unique/elite/cool…” Just get some cool jeans and wear them. Signed, old man.

[@derrickpomranky297]

I think Levi's marketed their jeans as not needing to be washed or washed very rarely, as a way to be more environmentally friendly.

[@realgrilledsushi]

I blame the hipster, they grow old with their annoying attitude when they were young.

[@Sergei_Ivanovich_Mosin]

To be fair jeans don't need to be washed very often, depending on how you use them two weeks to once a month is good enough a lot of the time, NEVER washing them though is just dumb and you probably stink to high heaven if you do this.

[@mishkab3135]

One month? 🤢@@Sergei_Ivanovich_Mosin

[@AnnapolisGirly]

I just bought a pair of Oni jeans in a thrift store. I just fell in love with the way they feel. Aren’t they from Okayama? Pretty awesome. I wasn’t aware people didn’t wash their jeans!

[@VooDoodaddy75]

Great stuff Nick. Bahzad is a treasure. The most logical, common sense approach to this "mystical" world of denim. "They're your jeans, do what you want" - says it all, thank you Bahzad.

[@Stridewise]

It's really refreshing hanging out with him and Brandon the CEO of N&F and they're both like "dude you're overthinking your jeans, just wear them"

[@plutopowered1116]

I’ve spent too much money buying things trying to predict the fit as opposed to just buying things that fit. I’m so glad he talked about that. Coincidentally I found a pair of raw denim that fit well and they’re working out great! Plus, suspenders made them even better!

[@richkavaicas]

Привет из Франции,я уже год прохожу этот процесс.

[@doublestrokeroll]

I think the main thing with the Japanese is that their domestic market for things like this is big enough to support them so they probably just don't care that much about their overseas sales. I'm into Japanese guitars and it's the same way. They make their living catering to the local market and that's good enough. It's up to us to figure it out for ourselves as foreigners. Personally that's kind of the fun part for me.

[@Stridewise]

Yeah that's a big part of it, like they make their profits and have their fanbase and just don't see the need to expand aggressively the way Americans love to with their businesses!

[@minerforjob32]

Bahzads attitude alone makes me want to get into raw denim, hes very kind!

[@garyv1483]

Man I’ve been mainlining the stridewise denim and heritage fashion videos lately and just wanted to say thanks, these videos are awesome and provide a ton of knowledge. Keep ‘em coming Nick.

[@Stridewise]

Hell yeah Gary welcome to the channel, pumped you're finding this useful for you!

[@Stridewise]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/pIbCiGZujrR-p6s new one for ya!

[@M1_u]

Thanks to Stridewise, I went to that same store in NYC and purchased the Black Cobras. After that, I got hooked and have about a dozen pairs. I love Naked and Famous now.

[@Stridewise]

Love to hear I helped! New one just went up kzbin.info/www/bejne/pIbCiGZujrR-p6s

[@actontreadway1168]

I am SO GLAD he broke the chainstitch myth! I have always had this complaint and finally, a guru is letting people know. I can't tell you how many times a chainstitch has broken on me and the whole line comes out like a cartoon sweater unraveling. I will sleep well tonight.

[@amaniahnuar]

also, single (needle) stitch creates roping effect too if the fabric shrinks and twists which almost all denim do so even sanforized

[@natesenft5376]

@@amaniahnuarshould i see my jeans with dual needle?

[@natesenft5376]

sew

[@amaniahnuar]

@@natesenft5376 i think it's entirely up to you. in whatever sense, it's why it's important to you. do you want the roping effect that mimics the old ways, done the old ways, and accurate to history of denim? go with chainstitch. if you want a more stronger stitch, practical, still get the roping effect but a bit different (double needle gets vertical roping, while chainstitch gets the diagonal hence the name roping)? go with double needle. the best answer can only come from you. some people prefer one over the other and it's totally fine. don't let what others say or think makes you who you are.

[@actontreadway1168]

@@natesenft5376 I do. But I don’t do production, so it’s just onesies and twosies and it’s how I like it

[@loqu]

Appreciate that I just bought my first pair, Levi’s M&C 551 Japanese selvedge, and have been a little overwhelmed with the “rules”. I just want them to last as long as possible with whatever fades come with that. Looking forward to visiting Naked & Famous next month when I’m in NYC.

[@bootsjeansandtheoddwatch]

I wish this was like an hour longer. Looking forward to the next one!

[@Stridewise]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/pIbCiGZujrR-p6s maybe this will slake your thirst!

[@justincase2271]

I grew up in the 70's. There were no such thing as a denim community and all that knowledge about denim. Also there weren't all the options when it came to denim, all these different cuts, washes, styles. We bought a pair that looked good to us (usually a 501 or an Edwin) fitted and just wore them without thinking about it. When they were dirty we washed them and that was it. They all faded beautifully over time. All that nonsense these days about how to wear it, what to put into the pockets for the best fades and when to wash them is comedy gold for me.

[@greuju]

I mean what you're saying is literally what the denim community tells you to do. Don't wash them. I get your saying wash them when they're dirty but that's like what maybe once a week at the most? Most likely you almost never wash your jeans. Yeah that's what they tell you to do

[@Srode1999]

​@@greujugrowing up in the 70's, we actually went outside and got dirty on the daily. Jeans got a lot of washing.

[@greuju]

@@Srode1999 I grew up in the '90s as a native American on Indian reservation give me a break. You still don't wash your jeans all the time. 😂 Wasting water for no reason

[@arisgaliatsatos595]

I wash my jeans every 3rd wearing-maximum 4th wearing. They start to get a stale smell afterwards from all the sitting on a chair-public transport-city pollution-sweat.

[@danielpotter8957]

I bought some iron heart selvedge denim about a year ago. 25oz which were super thick and I thought they were never going to soften up and be a nightmare to break in. I wear them regularly and only soak them in the bath for about half an hour per wash, it's taken about 6 months for them to start to soften and fade, looking back I would have bought a lighter oz.

[@RichardADastardly]

Iron Heart's signature 21oz denim is probably the wisest choice for people new to heavier denim who want to try that brand. It is much easier to deal with.

[@revoltpuppy]

I'm wearing a 21oz denim, and by now they're comfortable and nigh indestructible! Just got a 25oz pair custom made and the denim is so stiff, they're hard to button. Ripped out the button-hole stitching in the first week trying to pull the button through the eye, and now it's fraying.

[@daphneraven6745]

I have a question: i’m a person who always had trouble finding her size; when it was time to start school, my father taught my mother to make my clothes, and she taught me to make my own growing up. I can buy things off the rack now, because there’s a much wider range of sizes available in my area now, whereas there was never anything smaller than a size 5 available when I was growing up. For a really comfortable fit, though, there’s nothing like a custom pair, or at the very least, a custom fitting. That includes jeans. Over the years, there’s been times when I’ve just gotten sick of what’s available, and made my own, with a fairly profitable little side business at university, as time permitted. One thing that’s true about denim, at least the stuff that I buy from the fabric shop, as well as many other fabrics, is that if I pre-shrink and treat with a mordant before constructing a garment, then the colour lasts a whole lot longer. Growing up, my siblings and I wore a lot of raw cotton; there was certainly no time for hand washing jeans in cold water. We were lucky that they always got line dried. My friends often wondered why my jeans didn’t fade like theirs did; it always astonished me how their jeans faded and looked worn out so quickly. I’m wondering if modern raw cotton denims shouldn’t be treated with a mordant when they’re first purchased, to limit the amount of colour fade. Would you mind speaking to whether treating new raw cotton jeans with a mordant Is even appropriate, whether there ought to be special considerations and techniques used, and anything else that you might think of to offer about the matter, please? tyvk.

[@banbaji]

Thanks for this series Nick! My whole life I was always just buying the cheapest jeans. I'm learning a lot!

[@Stridewise]

Isn't it nice wearing jeans that you know are ready for anything!

[@immutablecantrip]

I recently found out there is a place nearby that sells naked and famous. I may go try out some of their jeans and see if I can find a style that fits me. It used to be easy to find jeans that fit well, but the style of everything being so slim and tapered since 2010ish isn't comfortable to me.

[@VidinWasTaken]

I've noticed that just before sewing the parts, if you apply significant pressure and heat while ironing the 14.5oz RAW denim from Japan, it stretches beautifully. However, once it's washed, it retains the stretched shape and doesn't shrink back. This unique quality adds to the allure of the denim, creating a one-of-a-kind fit that stays true to your body's contours. It's a fascinating characteristic that denim enthusiasts should definitely explore!

[@NonLegitNation2]

I feel like I just read a professional yelp review lol.

[@jameswoodard4304]

As an outsider to this scene who is also an American raised in store-bought Wranglers, I find all this hilarious. They're jeans. Just wear your dang jeans. Why do people have to always find a way to make the simple pleasures of life so complicated? It's like people sitting around arguing about the proper etiquette of smelling a flower.

[@PoeInTheDitch]

Me, too...just with levi's. I think this all stems from wanting to take care of something of high-quality that costs quite a bit of money. "Investment" pieces, I guess. If our Wranglers and Levi's wear out...no big deal...just buy another pair for $35-$50. These raw/selvedge jeans run, like, $150 easy. Hell, I'd want them to last, too. Ha. People just go overboard with it, though. Then that sht turns into snobbish obsession.

[@fredrubble5024]

How does not washing for a year extend the life of jeans? I'd reckon all the dirt and grunge would make the fabric fall apart more readily. My jeans last for years (with a couple of exceptions [501 Tactical being one] and wash inside out and line dry, none of that clothes dryer crap.@@PoeInTheDitch

[@mrpoizun]

@@fredrubble5024 Yes, washing your jeans tightens the fabric and extends the life of the jeans. You don't have to wash them every time you wear them. If they get dirty, wash them, cold water, air dry. Otherwise, you only need to wash them after ten or twelve wears, if that.

[@DerekMontanye]

Would love to see some more talk on unsanforized denim, never once has it shrank even close to the amount the retailers claim and it does stretch a ton. Even in spite of all that I haven’t bought sanforized jeans in over 10 years lol.

[@cyberjynx]

What are those dark, white speckled jeans at 8:08?

[@Stridewise]

Those are either the Lord of Nep or the King of Lords

[@cyberjynx]

@@Stridewise Thanks!

[@TS-vp7ep]

One think for anyone who wants to really get into denim. Just hand wash them, it is a bit of work and usually takes me around half an hour but it really worth it and it gives u time to enjoy and inspect your denim better. Plus, if you really going to put 300-400 usd into denim, you might want to give it a bit special care. If sun dried is not possible use fan dried, takes longer and you need to rotate you denim but it is possible (did it when I was in Scotland).

[@gnomersy1087]

I have to admit for me the idea of not washing your jeans after over a dozen wears just because you want the "perfect fades" in the denim crowd drives me nuts. Like after 2-3 weeks you can feel that jeans are getting nasty they start to develop a musty smell and eventually that develops into full on funk if you're obsessed with perfect fades as some kind of silly "hardwork costume" you can buy them pre faded just like people sell pre torn jeans.

[@michi0301]

Raw jeans are like different things to different people, some just simply treat them as clothing while others a piece of blank canvas and are more committed to a certain outcome. There is no need to bash, people do what they do because they see outcome they like.

[@salsa83]

I have gotten 2” of stretch from one washed jeans multiple times. Unsanforized jeans that have been one washed should be sized down.

[@duyluu3354]

I finally had my tailor single stitch the hem, after waiting forever to do it because I was worried over some stupid idea about roping fade and ended up not even wearing the pants for a long time.

[@ES-qm5hr]

It's such an important things to know about raw denim, they are going to get smaller if you wash them. Case in point, I was picking through some vintage denim in used clothing store, and I happened upon a pair late 60s Levis 505s, and I was excited because they were marked 36 inch waist, but they were actually by now more like a 32 inch. It was clear no amount of wearing would every widen them back to 36 inch, or 34 inch. Most of my new raw denim I buy, I buy at a 36 inch waist, and I shrink them down to my size, but I have never been able to get a pair of 32 inch raw denim jeans to stretch up to a 34 inch. Some other denim I have bought at 32 inch and they've loosened to 34 inch, but never tradition selvage raw denim.

[@zacharyowen2382]

What is the best type of Naked and famous jeans to buy to wear with cowboy boots and regular boot? I want something that is a nice flattering cut but not wide like a boot cut? Anybsuggestions

[@Stridewise]

maybe the True Guy? It's their wideish straight leg

[@vidjyagamers4055]

Is there a good method for trying out the right jeans from online stores without the hassle of paying to ship it back? So far Amazon has been good but the selections and availability is very limited.

[@beedeeramone]

I always try to say, these garments are made well and aren’t made of tissue paper. They can handle a wash plus proper care and upkeep. A peeve might be that a super pro has to repair them. I have picked up a needle and thread plenty of times to repair small parts to keep them from getting bad.

[@cyberlip666]

here's a tip that will save everyone some $$ + headaches and heartaches...sanforized denim WILL shrink in the wash. Your jeans will shrink about an inch in the waist. So if you buy a pair of sanforized jeans, and you plan on machine washing them, size up one size, don't buy your usual size. Yes, they will stretch, but the stretch isn't permanent. You'll lose the inch they stretched to + an inch off what they were before you wore them. It will also take a couple washes for them to shrink as much as they're going to, it doesn't all happen at the first wash. So wait until after the 3rd wash to hem them.

[@VishnuZutaten]

Great talk, very informative! THANK YOU!

[@tehgreatist]

A lot of these myths seemed a little farfetched and it's nice to hear a knowledgeable person shut it down. Even a few months without washing your jeans is pretty nasty to me (assuming you are wearing them regularly)

[@bingchen3804]

Hi Nick: What brands of raw denim (in addition to N&F) do you recommend that I can try on in New York City, especially those that don’t cost astronomically?

[@albertoclonado]

I’d say it’s hard to find a store in NYC to try denim for a lesser price than N&F.

[@davidhunternyc1]

The one piece of clothing in this video that perplexes me is Nick's Henley shirt. I don't know what to make of Henleys. I understand their historical significance in terms of workwear, for mining and railroads for instance. Sometimes I like Henleys and at other times I do not. I'd rather wear a plain long sleeve t-shirt. Yes, you can unbutton a Henley when it's too warm but the detailing and buttons seem a bit fussy and superfluous compared to the simplicity of a long sleeve t-shirt. Unless you live and work in very hot climates how often would you want to take off or unbutton a t-shirt? The use case for Henleys seems limited and they seem to be purely a style choice today. I could be wrong and I'm open to criticism.

[@shirayasha]

Raw Denim Myths: Debunked Also I am a washer every 2 weeks or so and just toss them in with my clothes. Never once got the spider vein fades after hundreds of washes. My steaming hot take: I also throw my jeans in the dryer with all of my clothes. Everything inside-out of course.

[@Stridewise]

I am the man who got those spider veins shown in the video, very sad! I can't remember if it was because they weren't inside out or because I left them wet and crumpled up all day. Either way: sorry Iron Heart!

[@shirayasha]

@@Stridewise Thank you for your sacrifice

[@dutchlancer2562]

Controversial for sure! But at what temperature and programme setting? Would love to test if I can get it to work just as nicely, at least the washing part XD

[@danielpotter8957]

Some men just want to watch the world burn.

[@MadelnMachines]

What are those jeans at 8:37 and 8:39 - the effect is so cool

[@actontreadway1168]

One thing that bugs me a lot is that some brands only go to maybe a 34" inseam and that is my minimum length for preshrunk fabric. I only get a little cuff out of that. Raw denim is almost never preshrunk and so there are many brands I cannot buy.

[@PanaMaJwaaRd]

Have you tried not being so tall?

[@actontreadway1168]

@@PanaMaJwaaRd I probably should have deleted my comment since someone else pointed this out and it's been working perfectly. tks.

[@PanaMaJwaaRd]

@@actontreadway1168 🤣, im like 5'4 so by the time i hem those 34in pants, that leg opening is no longer 7inches, damn near 7.8 or something, so i hate 34"inseams too.

[@davidlawspoonful]

Do you know the name of the Model of Denim at :32?

[@PaulHo]

I heard "Japandling business," and my entire outlook on life has changed.

[@NonLegitNation2]

Honestly sizing is the most annoying thing. I am just getting into raw denim. I ordered my first 2 pairs earlier this week, N&F Weird Guy Left Hand Twill and Unbranded Ub201s. I ordered them from Amazon and even after looking at the provided sizing guides which I'm assuming came from N&F and Unbranded I'm still worried I might not have gotten the correct waist size. The N&F jeans get delivered tomorrow and the Unbranded jeans get delivered sometime next week. Wish me luck. I'll update this comment when I receive them hopefully helping other who are not sure about sizing. FYI I measured the waist of a good fitting pair of Levi's I own and it came out to 17.5 so I ordered a tag size 34 for both the N&F and Unbranded jeans.

[@Artemis-v8i]

So how was it

[@NonLegitNation2]

@@Artemis-v8i sizing was pretty much correct on the N&F jeans, they are a tiny bit loose but that is totally fine. i decided not to get the Unbranded jeans based on basically every person who's owned selvedge jeans saying I should start out with one pair.

[@Grandier]

Pocket size, that always make or break my purchasing decision. I remember when i used iphone4, i bought a pair of unbranded 201, and i REALLY struggle to move comfortably with my phone in the pocket. That made an extra habit of carrying my phone on my back pocket, but that kinda worries me from attracting pickpocket. Then i got myself another pair recently and safe to say they have improved it.

[@zinknot]

I was really interested but the sizing is confusing. And it's a lot of money to be unsure about the fit.

[@rockymtnstyle]

Yep! I have a pair of 18oz natural seed weft from Unbranded and I got them too tight, thinking when I lose 5 lbs they'll be perfect, but instead I gained 5 lbs! But hey, if I drop 10lbs I'll have a cool pair of jeans!

[@Stridewise]

The sizing does my head in. Does it stretch! Does it shrink! It doesn't help that I gain and lose ten pounds every year with different gym programs

[@Paddythefriendlykiwi]

Yup, ordered my N&F jeans in a probably a size too small and possiblyrhe wrong cut. Could button up but it was sooooo tight on the top block. Rather than send em back, I did soooo many squats in them and at a featherweight 9oz they have finally gave to make them comfortable enough for my summer weight jeans. I just can't overtrain my legs. Mainline fabric is banging.

[@jasonwhite4725]

Got a pair of N&F as my first selvedge denim and had a similar problem. Got them too small probably and while I can button the waist the top block is super tight - the rise is a bit short and the thighs are very snug. Maybe I need to do more squats in them!

[@Paddythefriendlykiwi]

@@jasonwhite4725 yes mate. I spent a good day wearing them, lunging, squatting deeply. Had abrasions on my hips. My wife wondered what the fuck I was doing. Finally went to a roller disco with my little girl (I don't roller skate). The various different shapes I threw while falling over a lot seemed to work pretty well.

[@miciom999]

Does someone knows the brand of the jacket?

[@CatalystOfFire]

Let's change the focus to doing this because companies pay fair wages and use quality materials! I will save up my money for everyday clothing simply because I don't enjoy wearing someone's labor exploitation.

[@Murnerr]

"Never Size Down" is wild to hear. I remember buying my APC PNS in 2012 and had to size down twice - in the end they fit me perfectly for 5 years and I wore them into the ground. Its a shame APC is not what it used to be

[@haroon420]

Hey.. can you tell me about your Henley shirt?

[@YourRentsDueMF]

Wash new jeans with old faded black stuff. Transfer that colour somewheres haha. I have no idea if this works but I like to think it does. Also, I have a pair of jeans that fit excellent for about an hour. By the end of the day they’re a full size and a half too big. They dooo stretch a lot man! Is it because of the stretch material in them? They’re Dovetail.

[@PanaMaJwaaRd]

Im not sure im buying the fit portion of this video. I literally just bought pair 100cotton and they fit completely different from first purchase. And im dealing with the dilemma rn currently as i type of.... Should i attempt to shrink a little in wash hot water only first.hang dry, and then potentially try even the dryer like 10 mins at a time later after that, etc? Parts of me maybe thinks i could have gone down a size and had it super tight so it expanded to little less of where its at now. Still not sure lol, but he made that answer seem littleeeeeeeeee tooo like not concerned for my liking when its deff a thing.

[@blueband8114]

My most annoying thing is, being on the larger side eg thighs, waist, arms, back, chest. It's way more difficult to get access to a lot of the products, you want. I am not talking obese, I am talking naturally big all over.

[@shawnflynn1713]

I understand that completely. If i start running or lifting heavy my thighs wont fit in my regular pants. They make them so damn awkward. Good point.

[@JoeyLevenson]

I’m a bit big in the legs and Momotaro works for me.

[@ROB-12013]

​@@JoeyLevenson Good to know. Also, I see more people comment, on other channels, that they buy and happy with their Momos than any other denim brand.

[@roccochomsky2318]

I appreciate you Stridewise Im glad you finally stopped sizing down. No more sausage legs.

[@Joshklawansky]

I got a paid of naked and famous and got them tailored before their first was by mistake, but now am worried that they will shrink it I do. I know you do not know the exact item but in general, will N&F jeans shrink at all (both in width and length)?

[@PanaMaJwaaRd]

They will shrink for sure. I've done this in the past as well. Sucks, but, a mistake most of us has to go through at leastr once to learn the hard way lol.

[@isaiahgonzalez6709]

@@PanaMaJwaaRd I thought their denim was already sanforized so it won't shrink?

[@PanaMaJwaaRd]

@@isaiahgonzalez6709 ive never had cotton never shrink no matter what was said. I kind of like 99/1 jeans honestly. I have many 100% nudies and once you wash(no dry), they fit sooooo nice, but after 2 long wears they dont like "bag out" but they deff have room and a belt is slightly needed which is annoying. I also have 99/1 jeans where this barely happens if at all. That tiny tiny bit of stretch in the material helps to not have that bag out look and hold shape little better.

[@countvantran]

What belt are you wearing at 4:08? It seems durable

[@Stridewise]

there's no belt at 4:08?

[@countvantran]

@Stridewise sorry wrong video 🤦‍♂️

[@guynamedjohn69]

I love everything about selvedge jeans! Nothing annoys me. Except one thing, buttoning up 25oz for the first 10 or so time 😅🤣

[@Stridewise]

YES. That's another minor gripe: barely anyone does zipper flies

[@guynamedjohn69]

I'd rather my thumbs hurt for a couple times than for my junk to get stuck in a zipper 🤣

[@doublestrokeroll]

@@guynamedjohn69 If your junk is getting stuck in a zipper, it's not the zipper's fault....lol

[@JoeyLevenson]

@@Stridewise Kojima usually does, this the lower price point. Decent quality, for sure.

[@KurtWickham]

With raw denim jeans, should I wear darker colored underwear VS lighter/white underwear? Is this even a concern about indigo dye rubbing off? What are your solutions/views about this issue?

[@kflex-yn4ku]

Does anyone know what those jeans with like the white specs are at around :04 are

[@CH-bp3bj]

I love raw selvedge denim but the sizing has been so frustrating and cost me so much money over the years.

[@Fstop313]

Guy really said “naur”

[@Stridewise]

hahahah every American I talk to thinks I use Rs where I don't use Rs my accent is characterized by its lack of Rs damn it!!!

[@american_psycho1147]

Stop sizing down! I used to follow that garbage advice for a long wasting money on jeans that didn't fit. I realized if you wear a belt the jeans will never stretch past the belt size anyway so just measure your waist, get that size and go

[@arcticredpanda4598]

I get a spray bottle from the dollar store, put in a little soap, shake it up spray the jeans and rinse them off in the shower with cold water. Lay them flat to dry. Denim looks the same afterward. No shrink.

[@derrickbell2338]

Dumbest thing about raw denim was the U.S selling all of our equipment to Japan to make them.

[@Stridewise]

I can't work out if that's a myth or not

[@danegarcia8265]

What style/brand would you recommend for a heavy set guy? For reference, I am currently in a 44x30 or 44x32 in off the shelf jeans.

[@Stridewise]

something with a roomy top block and thighs, I'd suggest Easy Guy from N&F but they taper, and you probably want a roomy straight leg. Try www.nakedandfamousdenim.com/en/fit-guide/#strong-guy

[@jeffrittenour8202]

i took a pair of immogene + willie jeans to get hemmed at a local tailor in like 2010, knowing nothing about chain stitching vs single needle. obviously they hemmed it with a single needle stitch. i wore those jeans hard for years until i got too fat and had to size up. never had an issue with the hem.

[@garyv1483]

Yeah it’s a super pedantic thing to be obsessed over but this is a pedantic hobby I guess so I get why some people get all crazy about it

[@Stridewise]

it's like i know it'd be fine if i didn't chain stitch but i'm still having trouble taking them to the neighborhood alterations place for it, it feels like such heresy

[@jeffrittenour8202]

true story: i once took a pair of jeans to a local tailor to have them taken in. they cut from the outseam and completely removed the selvedge stripe. i didn't even think to tell them to cut from the inseam, not the outseam... LIVE AND LEARN. i guess the question is: were they ruined without the stripe? or still perfectly good? it's really a question of vanity. we ALL want people to see the stripe and know how cool we are.

[@Stridewise]

@@jeffrittenour8202 that's such a funny story. no the jeans are fine!! the stripe is proof that your jeans are selvedge, but it isn't like a load bearing stripe or anything that would have negative effects if removed

[@garyv1483]

Ultimate clout is removing the selvage ID so that only the mega denim heads will know 😉

[@Freco1967]

Thanks Nick! The waists on the jeans I'd buy at the mall would stretch out 2 sometimes 3 inches and I would need a belt to hold them up. I'd wear them a couple days and would have to wash them so they'd shrink back to their original size. So happy to have found selvedge. Never going back.

[@mrpoizun]

You buy ten dollar jeans, you get ten dollar quality. Try Levi's, which can be found regularly for forty bucks.

[@HikingWithDaz]

What are the speckled jeans often shown in the video?

[@Stridewise]

you might be talking about the king of lords? the really neppy one? www.nakedandfamousdenim.com/en/king-of-lords-selvedge

[@LaOwlett]

A lot of the time, Japan makes high quality products in Japan for the Japanese people, and they make a lower quality version in China or Indonesia for western markets. Makita for example, their power tools are better quality in Japan. They look identical but materials, the machining and parts are better quality. This might not be the case for every company but it's the case for a lot of them.

[@JohnMoseley]

I do want to get smaller 501s next time. If I start with a good fit in the store, they always end up too loose.

[@KingCotton-8]

Usually in jeans I get 36x30 but some say selvedge shrinks at least 10%. How true isn't his washing by hand?

[@strengthandbulkMadness]

I bought a bunch of Selvedge denim but favorite jeans are actually non-Selvedge work jeans: Ariat Rebar M7. They come with the fades, stretch and durable.

[@yoddythegreat]

How is your momotaro jeans? Still fit or sold? Would be nice to see some updates on your jeans collection

[@Stridewise]

I've actually been wearing them a lot lately because I've lost a ton of weight, but the pair I wear the most are my PBJs. I need to do a video update on them!

[@theprojectproject01]

Is that a Union Special 43200G chainstitcher I see in the foreground? Beautiful tool.

[@theprojectproject01]

Oh, never mind, I see it is! Good for you! WARNING TO READERS: That is a $7500 machine, if in good running shape, hasn't been made in about 50 years, and parts are getting scarcer by the day. Buy at your own risk.

[@kristianpeterson2571]

Hey guys. I'm a poor actor. And as such, I'm forced to hunt for my selvedge and other high end denim in thrift stores. Crazy, I know. But believe it or not, I've had a decent amount of luck here in Houston. My first pair was from (Greasy) Gustin. They were that first step down the rabbit hole. The pair I have worn the most is from G, by Guess. Chinese selvedge. I like them, the details aren't very high end, but they have formed to fit well. However, I have worn them for over 8 months, with two washes, and the damn things wont fade! Any clue as to why? And then on the flip side of that, I just picked up a pair of 7 Diamonds selvedge Kelso jeans, made in Thailand. These are very well made, with very clean finishing and nice details. These are already starting to show my cell phone imprint in the front pocket. Why would on e pair fade much faster than another? Is it a quality issue? Also, I did find a pair of Naked and Famous Weird Guy at the Hip HOp Vintage Fest here. the crotch was blown out and they were in a $10 pile. So I fixed the crotch myself after researching the Sashiko method. I love them! But they are too big in the waist. So, I might have to sell them, or get fat. Anyway, I love denim, and the heritage that goes along with it. Cheeers! and Thank You!

[@RichardADastardly]

I have a pair that are over 20 years old with relatively minimal fading. It is probably to do with the dyeing and fixing methods used during manufacturing, along with the type of cotton, the density of the weave, the fit, etc.

[@Americansikkunt]

Are there are brands that offer Grey or Green raw denim?

[@goldencalf5144]

More please. This guy is a wealth of information.

[@boring_elderly_millenial]

If you care about the rest of your clothes, don't wash them with your denim. Denim is way too heavy and rough to be agitating against lighter weight fabrics/items like tee-shirt jersey, rayon challis, bras, or underwear. If you don't have enough denim for a denim- only load, wash them with your (dark colored) towels. Always try to wash similar weight fabrics together to prevent lightweight fabric from getting damaged by heavier weight fabrics.

[@Pugetwitch]

3:29 Most men tend to drip dry/shake it off while women wipe LOL can you imagine the acidity of urine unwashed men's jeans in the crotch area, and over a year's worth at that! 🤮😮

[@Stridewise]

Yeah I've heard employees talk about the smell of unwashed jeans. It's so foul and weird that people just think it's fine to not wash them

[@Pugetwitch]

@@Stridewise some will do anything for fashion, I guess! 😅

[@christiancabiles8498]

@@Pugetwitch Yeah this is the first time I heard of this. I find it weird I always put my jeans to the laundry bin after wearing it the whole day. I can't even imagine wearing it a week straight without even washing them it feels so unsanitary.

[@2g4u7y]

Anybody know where I can find more content specifically about Raw Denim? Naked and Famous my favorite brand of jeans.

[@Stridewise]

kzbin.info/aero/PLNld8fx1Smnn2mTGC9oricAyOgpwzzAgc ! also the yt channel The Iron Snail

[@rogerr.8507]

Wait... raw denim stretches out for you not shrinks?? So the shrink to fit pants will get bigger if you dont wash them?

[@BittyBeach]

Dope video 🤘🏼

[@thec.tysonsynopsis7280]

2 things I hate about selvedge. 1- is the price, sometimes I really think brands overcharge because they know they can. 2 - mobility/cuts. Most selvedge companies don't offer any stretch denim, or they offer very little cut styles.

[@madpekon]

Check out Oni denim. For cuts I go with 544, 622 and 122( elastane 2% or 1%). The first two cuts are really stretchy even though they have not elastane.

[@fredrubble5024]

Nick sounds originally Australian. Why dry jeans in a clothes dryer? Good way to wreck them. Line dry!

[@albertoclonado]

Before I watch the video, what bothers me is that almost all brands don’t accept returns but exchanges. This makes very risky to try raw denim

[@bangabruhh8291]

Currently going through the finding my size and fit on my selvedge journey.

[@dark_gravity_edc]

Naked and Famous i bought same size as my Levi's 501 100% cotton and they fit perfect. Check out Blue Owl Workshop if in the US. They had some versions on sale.

[@aizatakhtiar4188]

First few months of wearing the Jeans, it BLEEDS everywhere

[@markely7587]

Dude, they are jeans. Wear them, wash them, beat the hell out of them, replace them when they are thrashed. All this washing stuff, I wash after ever wear. Maybe every other wear if it’s to the office. Toss them in the wash with other jeans, bath towels whatever.

[@bubbie23jw]

I love your videos, but to me I like the vintage Japanese denim from jcrew! To me they are the best fitting jeans for the way I dress. I would rather send more money on boots & coats!

[@JohnJohnson-jw5uz]

BIG TIP for extending your no wash time: Rub the inside of the jeans with a paper towel dipped in 99% isopropyl alcohol then let them air out for a day or two. It will eliminate smells without removing indigo.

[@arthurdoctolero8813]

I wash my one and only selvedge jeans with my chambray and navy blue Oxford shirts in a tub. No problemo!

[@shanecorwin731]

That Bahzad fella is quite a stud

[@Stridewise]

You know it, Shane!!!!

[@chrish2879]

This was so frustrating to watch. You ask the guy a question and then immediately interrupt him. Let the man speak!

[@alanc6468]

Thanks so much! Reddit has got me so confused. I avoid r/raw denim entirely

[@saltedracer18]

super fun video--thank-you!!

[@Stridewise]

Delighted you liked it my man

[@cecilyerker]

Wash your jeans in a thick mesh garment back or a zipped pillowcase to protect them from the inside of the washing machine.

[@Gustav555]

I don't always want a button fly. Why don't more companies use zippers!? Great video as always 👍

[@NGcCharlie]

It's kind of exhausting watching the guy on the right hardly every letting the other guy get a word in.

[@rg3412]

I want to watch more interviewing of Bahzad! He seems highly knowledgeable and not a propagator of b.s. :)