The 5-Minute DIY Sailboat Survey: A 15-point inspection to vet potential sailboat purchases!

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@LearnToSailMexico 8 ай бұрын

You also want to pay particular attention to keel step or base of compression posts for mast. As well as base of bulkheads looking for delam of tabbing or wood rot.

@boatfools 8 ай бұрын

100%!

@kylecarscaden3953 8 ай бұрын

These videos are so useful, I really enjoy the style of the channel no clickbait BS just good solid info.

@boatfools 8 ай бұрын

Thank you, Kyle, and thanks for watching!

@nodogrunner 8 ай бұрын

Really great job. I would add some things to check but your list is great. Take pictures of everything, open everything you can.

@boatfools 8 ай бұрын

We might do a part 2! Thank you for your continued support!

@nodogrunner 8 ай бұрын

@@boatfools once you have done the initial walk thru, and proceeded to pay for a survey, do people often walk away after shelling out survey money? You have kind of showed your hand to the seller? Do you make a pre-survey offer? Just to see if you are in the ballpark?

@garymitchell5899 Ай бұрын

@@nodogrunnerThat's the worst thing you could do. Seems like you're too keen. Use the survey to make a reasonable offer based on condition. What else?

@todddunn945 8 ай бұрын

I would also have checked the rudder bearing to make sure it didn't have any play. One thing that can be a real issue is the batteries. depending on where the batteries are, it can be a big job to replace them. Personally, I would walk from a boat with big batteries (4Dor 8D) because big batteries are HEAVY and really need two people to get them out and back into the boat. Also check the condition of the batteries and the wiring to them. Unless the rigging is pretty new, you will likely want to replace it within a few years. So I wouldn't sweat the rigging much unless it needs replacing now. If you own a quality tape measure you can easily replace your own standing rigging for a lot less than $5K on a 38' sloop. I see no need for a rigger. Just remove the suspect wires, measure them and order new ones. Easy. I use rigging only down in Fairhaven, MA. They are fast and have great prices. You can even do your own rigging. Jut buy the wire and some mechanical fittings. You will need a hacksaw, tape measure and a couple of wrenches. Once you get build a couple of wires you will have it down and can finish the entire boat in a couple of days. Furlers are a bit more work, but you can easily install a new forestay and furler in a day.

@boatfools 8 ай бұрын

All good points!

@jeffreyhutchinsdo 8 ай бұрын

Excellent episode! And very applicable to my situation having just flown from Dallas to Baltimore to arrange to meet a surveyor at a boat I had under contract on the Chesapeake near Annapolis. The survey lasted about 10 min because as soon as he stepped on deck it was soft and rotted and went off the chart on the moisture meter. He didn’t finish the survey and agreed to half price. But that was still $500!! Appreciate you for sharing all your wisdom through experience!

@boatfools 8 ай бұрын

I’m sorry you went through all of that trouble to learn that. Someone should have known well in advance about those soft decks and said something. Sheesh…

@jeffreyhutchinsdo 8 ай бұрын

@@boatfools It’s all good! Everything happens for a reason and I learned so much about the process.

@markrickel1632 8 ай бұрын

@@jeffreyhutchinsdo that’s 💯 the right attitude when dealing with sailing and boats. Lessons learned are more valuable than gold. Keep looking and if you want eyes on a deltaville boat before booking a ticket let me know.

@markrickel1632 8 ай бұрын

Great Video. Will help new to me potential owners from spending money they could be spending fixing the one they do buy. Only thing I would add is notepad and calculator (or just use your phone). It’s all a numbers game. If you know the value of a boat that is up to snuff for that model and the price of each repair then you have a number for the value to you. Keep in mind to pay yourself some for your time with repairs or look at it as skipper school tuition.

@boatfools 8 ай бұрын

Glad you found it useful! And you make a good point. Taking notes and pictures is key. As are multiple visits to a sailboat of interest. You’ll see something new each time (for better or for worse!). Thanks for watching!

@efrimmayer-aschhoff6 Ай бұрын

And beautiful boat. Thank you for sharing.

@boatfools Ай бұрын

Our pleasure!

@CharlieStrout 8 ай бұрын

This is a great video. Also a great punch list of what to look at on my boat every season.

@boatfools 8 ай бұрын

New York Charlie! Thank you, sir!

@rolandlowe8945 8 ай бұрын

Great vids with lotsa good tips. Presently searching for a boat. Your vids are very helpful. Keep up the good work. New subscriber here! Cheers from Montreal region.

@boatfools 8 ай бұрын

Hi Roland! Welcome aboard and thank you for your comment! Good luck with your boat search. What are you in the market for? Canadian Ken is from Montreal. I’ve been up there twice - love it!

@rolandlowe8945 8 ай бұрын

@@boatfools Current boat Pearson 26 is on Lake Champlain. Presently looking at a 1984 Tartan 37 CB but it has suffered neglect due to Covid and the skippers illness. The lady wants it gone. I'm flip flopping on what to do...!!!

@WaveformV1.0 8 ай бұрын

Great info, thanks guys. New sub here

@boatfools 8 ай бұрын

Welcome aboard! And thanks for watching!

@mr.goeser1867 2 ай бұрын

Many thanks for this good video

@boatfools 2 ай бұрын

You are welcome! Thanks for watching!

@agentdouble-osoul158 8 ай бұрын

Why pay a surveyor upfront when you can do the basics yourself, bravo gentlemen. Another brilliant video. I almost made it up to Maine two weeks ago to look at a beautiful wooden. Hopefully I’ll have better weather in the summer.

@boatfools 8 ай бұрын

Thank you, sir! If you make it to the midcoast, give us a shout!

@agentdouble-osoul158 8 ай бұрын

@@boatfools I will, thank you.

@TerrenceLCarpenter 8 ай бұрын

Very informative.👍🏾 I’m subscribed🎉🎊🍾🎈

@boatfools 8 ай бұрын

Thank you, Terrance! Welcome aboard! Let me know how the sailing lessons go!

@patrickfalter4487 8 ай бұрын

Good stuff, your Morgan engine compartment looks great. Thanks guys

@boatfools 8 ай бұрын

Thanks Patrick!

@efrimmayer-aschhoff6 Ай бұрын

This is the cleanest engine compartment I have ever seen. Hit this up at mile marker 11:41. Share thoughts?

@boatfools Ай бұрын

Thank you! She actually came this way and we’re doing our best to maintain it in the same way. Thanks for watching!

@efrimmayer-aschhoff6 Ай бұрын

Well, can we all agree to support local craftsmen. Pay them for their expertise and support our local communities.

@boatfools Ай бұрын

100%!

@BigDreamsBoating 8 ай бұрын

Really great video!!! I always watch but this really stands out also I’m sure it will help someone

@boatfools 8 ай бұрын

Thank you for the kind feedback!

@michroz 3 ай бұрын

So I understand, basically what you do is as full preliminary survey on your personal amateur level to eliminate the candidates you could see problems with your level of knowledge. Very well done! As soon as every used boat obviously has some problems, you obviously need a rough understanding of a price behind the common types of the problems. Like, how much is to: replace the rudder/steering, replace the engine (or a major rehaul), new rigging, sand fix and paint the hull.

@curtischambers5652 3 ай бұрын

Nice video, thanks. I am currently looking at boats and this was exactly what I needed to eliminate boats from my list. BTW what was that light you had? I need one!

@boatfools 3 ай бұрын

Hey! Thanks! The light is called the Handy Brite Ultra and I grabbed it at Home Depot. Pretty sweet and it charges via USB, has a kickstand, and it has a magnetic bottom, so handy when doing engine work. Give us a shout it you find a boat you like and have any questions! Happy to help. Thanks for watching!

@eugenio1542 7 ай бұрын

I like your name, discussion and comments 👍”a fools advice is often the best advice” my darling Mother 😂

@Stoic-of-Rome 7 ай бұрын

Very good video. thank you.

@boatfools 7 ай бұрын

Thank you, sir! Appreciate the feedback!

@markbailey6051 8 ай бұрын

I go straight to the engine bed to check for rot. That's the first.

@boatfools 8 ай бұрын

An excellent tip!

@jsmith3728 8 ай бұрын

I wish I knew this last year

@boatfools 8 ай бұрын

@@jsmith3728 I kind of want to know what happened but I am afraid to ask!

@jsmith3728 8 ай бұрын

@@boatfools I’ll reply because others need to know but I will keep it vague… when something is a “good deal” you should make sure it’s sound. The boat didn’t pass survey because of a “bad engine mount” I had to motor through a some locks for 12 hours to get the boat “home”… now that I’ve inspected it I’ve found that the aft mounts have been punched into the ( it rotten) engine beds… long story short my motor is out of the boat and I splash in 3 weeks.

@AEFisch 8 ай бұрын

An otherwise nice Cal33, totally worthy of fixing the rudder at the right price. Well made, great sailing machine. But the one stripping a whole bottom back to glass, barrier coat, fairing it and finally paint is a big project I've done. FYI, your engine compartment with no insulation is 3x as loud as one with. The are solid wood cabin soles, and ones of cheap plywood that look similar. The former is just elbow grease to restore. Ports + veneer and trim can be a difficult job to get right and watertight.

@boatfools 8 ай бұрын

Agreed. Sweet boat. I jumped the gun on saying pass. But did change my mind. Actually none of these boats are for sale. Just found them to use as examples. However there is a Cal-33 for sale in Maine right now and it looks pretty nice! Great racer-cruisers.

@patrickhorgan8389 8 ай бұрын

A question: Your own boat has primary and backup fuel ( diesel?) filters. Both are charged with fuel. Each has distinctly different fuel colours ( non US spelling 😂). Why? Just a small point to clarify if possible.

@boatfools 8 ай бұрын

Absolutely! That yellow diesel is from a gas station so no dye in it. And we have yet to use that one! You are the first one to mention that. Good eye! And thanks for watching!

@robertscholz4486 8 ай бұрын

Great episode as usual. One other item that i would look for that you did not mention with regard to the engine access is the starter motor location, especially on a used boat. The starter is a key component of the engine -- without the starter all of the other components are irrelevant, if you can't start the engine it really does not matter if you have top of the line filtration for the fuel!!! The starter is a wear item that can easily be damaged by water intrusion or insufficient voltage supply (starts with weak battery) -- at some point you will be replacing the starter of every motor. Idea for a follow up episode: What is the price point at which a professional survey becomes worth while? If you are just breaking into boating and your budget is only $10k, do you do your own survey or pay for the professional survey? When the money for the survey might allow you to "buy up" to a better boat, is it still better to spend the money on the survey -- the average boats in this range are Catalina 22, Cal 22, Compac 18, Compac 23, Hunter 23, and Tanzer 22 etc., many of which have very few components that are not repairable by the average person.

@boatfools 8 ай бұрын

Excellent points! A follow up episode is likely! Thanks, as always, for your comments and insights.

@brikler7717 8 ай бұрын

On the keel bolts, would it be prudent to put something like Loctite on it to help with the backing off? or is that a no-no?

@boatfools 8 ай бұрын

No, I wouldn't use Loctite, as this would make torquing or removal that much more difficult. Checking your keel bolts is really a once a season situation under typical use - like seasonal sailing up here in the NE. It would take a long time and extraordinary conditions for all of your keel bolt nuts to back off to a point where your keel will just drop off. But checking them periodically is an ounce of prevention... Thanks for watching and for your question!

@SailingSarah 8 ай бұрын

In my opinion if the engine and decks are good and there's not a lot of blistering and the rigging isn't falling off, everything can be fixed. Of course people want everything free and now but I would be more interested in a seaworthy boat in its design over having to do some repairs. I would much rather have a full keel deck stepped mast boat and walk away from a fin keel but to each their own. That's just me. That Cape Dory 30 at the beginning is the boat of choice hands down even if it needs work. That boat will most likely live even if the captain and crew doesn't.

@boatfools 8 ай бұрын

Agree with your thoughts here. And about the CD 30: sturdy, solid, will go anywhere. And that one is cutter rigged. Aces. Thanks for chiming in!

@EldridgeRawls 8 ай бұрын

I have a Catalina 38 1982 SS. The entire sole is integrated fiberglas ,dropped in to the hull when built . No wood any where . All bulkheads are 6 inches above sole when they become mahogony . I rarely see this on older boats..

@boatfools 8 ай бұрын

Nice! A lot less to worry about! Thanks for the comment and thanks for watching!

@boatfools 8 ай бұрын

That Catalina is based on the Yankee 38 mold - has the prettiest tumblehome. Great boat. Well, you have a lot less to worry about! Thanks for watching!

@eldridgerawls4983 8 ай бұрын

Thanks. It looks like a 34 footer in the water . Low freeboard. It is 16500 lbs. of displacement so it handles rough seas well.

@Viralvid2024 8 ай бұрын

I have a nice 31' Bombay Clipper and two inboard marine diesel engines for sale over in Portsmouth, NH

@boatfools 8 ай бұрын

Is she listed on FB? Craigslist? Or with a broker?

@Viralvid2024 8 ай бұрын

@@boatfools no, haven't done anything with listings yet. I'm just now finishing a repower and fresh paint. Figured I'd get that done before getting too deep into the listings, but other than that it's ready to go and in excellent condition.

@Viralvid2024 8 ай бұрын

@@boatfools swapped out the Westerbeke for a Volvo Penta.

@nickpitera7891 2 күн бұрын

Great episode. I noticed that your nonskid pattern is very similar to my T37. Not easy to match. How are you planning to access the deck core? From the top or from below? Thanks in advance? Nick. S/V Angela Mia T37 # 336 Lake Superior

@boatfools 2 күн бұрын

Hi Nick! We haven't tackled it yet because we don't even notice it when walking on deck. However, after consulting with a professional, when we do move forward we will go from top down and if done carefully the deck we remove should be able to be reused. The T37 is a very similar boat!

@SavingMaverick55 8 ай бұрын

And then there's people like me with other criteria. Free wooden boat. 2 were avaliable on Cape Cod. I only got a reply from one owner. I'm kinda glad i got Maverick. The other was a 1945 fin keeled wooden boat. That woulda been a colossal PITA to work on.

@boatfools 8 ай бұрын

Exactly. You’ve the know-how and the place to do it. And endless patience! It’s impressive, what you’re doing and when you launch her, it will be one of your proudest moments.