The 5 Most Advanced Races & Factions in Science Fiction | Sci-Fi Top 5

[@EckhartsLadder]

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[@Anonymus56o]

Does the council of Ricks technically count here?

[@superminer1248]

Do the Enterprise e from star trek vs 2 terran battelcruisers from star craft(englisch is not my first languige)

[@yogsothoth7594]

Law is the ultimate science.

[@doomreaper5152]

Imperium of man vs combine Eternal empire vs flood Combine vs Galatic empire Cis super tank vs AT-AT walker

[@bruhduke2686]

EckhartsLadder Can you do the federation (starship troopers) vs the republic(clone wars era)

[@nickwalker4936]

People tend to misinterpret the term Xeelee stomp. Usually people use it to describe a battle where the odds are stacked heavily in one’s favor, but in reality it’s a battle where one side has *no chance* of victory whatsoever.

[@wilmagregg3131]

but the counter is the photonio bullcrap where they have THE ONE weird expetion that can kill them and thats the fact they somehow can exist everywhere at everytime at once

[@scoompaloompa]

@@wilmagregg3131 the photino birds aren't really a weird exception, but more of an indescribably powerful race that we know absolutely nothing about. They're basically the Xeelee, but existing in dark matter rather than Baryonic matter. We can't use the Photino Birds as combatants in a sci-fi vs. simply because the only only thing we know about their capabilities is that they beat the Xeelee.

[@wilmagregg3131]

@@scoompaloompa but the series does explain more details about them specifally that they dont actually use technology just there natural abilitys of maniplating space gravity and time. effetivly the photino birds are simply dark matter life forms who are unbound by the laws of time simply put you cant kill them because a previous version of them would replace them you cant stop them becauses they exist everywhere and at everytime at once. which explains why they are nearly unstopable the issue is HOW they even as indivuials someone exist everywhere at once if you kill a photino bird with blackhole gravity it SHOULD by all laws of physics and consciouness be dead but no it will repeat instantly from a younger version of itself with all the memories of the one you killed. effiectivly the photinos birds are like lovecraftian versions of phoneixs which is probably why the author called then photino BIRDS despite not really looking like birds. the only two sci fi weapons ive seen capable of defeating them is the stellaris gigastructures temporal erasure gun basically a solar system sized warship with a energy weapon that if it makes contact will spread across all timelines and erasure the target from ALL of them even the photinos couldnt escape it of course youd then have to track down and kill each indvidual photio bird with it. and then theres classic conceptual erasure basically reality warpering weapons like the infinity gaunlet that let you alter fundemtal parts of reality in which you could just say for instance "any photino bird naturally collapses into a blackhole" etc etc

[@jimmybayconn]

@@wilmagregg3131 What is the Temporal Erasure gun supposed to be. I have played hundredds of hours of stellaris and gigasturcures but ive never encountered in any way.

[@wilmagregg3131]

@@jimmybayconn read the description for the main gun of the stellar system craft thats where it comes from

[@CatastrophicMarauder]

Xeelee ships are like: yo dawg I heard you like space, so I made you a spaceship out of space so you can travel in space in space

[@taelorpickel2830]

Xeelee: "Then we shall make a even more spacey space ship that is made out of dark matter and spacey stuff with our space technology that can ALSO travel in space."

[@Beta_Mixes]

This comment is priceless lmao

[@jasoethesentienteyeshapedg4847]

@@taelorpickel2830 Yep, that's the Xeelee in a nutshell.

[@shanegrimes3455]

Nice one

[@akinsamuel2007]

I loved this comment. There may be a slight typo at the end however and with your indulgence I would alter it to: "I heard you like space, so I made you a spaceship, out of space so you can travel THROUGH space in space.." 😁

[@MeargleSchmeargle]

Reapers: We are the apex of all life. Empire: Not if our Turbolasers have a say in the matter. Forerunners: Filthy casuals. Downstreamers: *Creative Mode Activate*

[@lamvuong5343]

The Xeelee : Angry starbreaker noise

[@jasoethesentienteyeshapedg4847]

Photono Birds: *Gobble Gobble Gobble*

[@javierguardiola7122]

@@jasoethesentienteyeshapedg4847 monads: look at my pets, they're playing a lot today

[@tsarbombawithinternetconne875]

@@jasoethesentienteyeshapedg4847 Photino Birds: *Lets make are home a little more comfy* Also Photino: *uhmm shit i killed every baryonic life*

[@jasoethesentienteyeshapedg4847]

@@tsarbombawithinternetconne875 Monads: *Yawns* "Enjoy your life as a single." *Goes back to sleep*

[@SnoNotHD]

I clicked on this vid expecting to have to comment, "You forgot about The Culture." You just earned some serious points in my book.

[@shayneoneill1506]

Don't fuck with The Culture!

[@SvenTviking]

I wanna live in the culture. I wanna travel around the galaxy in huge, beautiful sentient space craft going to great parties and having great sex while traveling to other bigger parties and festivals on distant orbitals, renowned for the great parties during the huge festivals, snorting drug bowls snd glanding my own large array of drugs, while having multiple orgasms during the great sex, because they genetically engineered my plumbing and meeting exotic aliens at their parties and that extremely sarcastic avatar of a Contact Fast Picket with the long, witty and quite threatening name and OH CHRIST I MISS IAIN BANKS! I miss him so fucking much!😫😭

[@miculxd8217]

SvenTviking wtf

[@voidstrider801]

@@SvenTviking You want slaanesh? Because that's how you get slaanesh. Though yeah I get it, but you would get bored of it after awhile though, everything in moderation. Find a hobby or a few hobbies aside from partying, fucking, drinking, eating, and doing drugs, that's not a fulfilling life on it's own. Even in a world where you don't really need to do anything and technology takes care of the tedious day to day work, it's good to have goals and interests.

[@vincegalila7211]

@@voidstrider801 most of the Weirdness is in Virtual Realities and everyone is essentially immortal so it's basically impossible to have anything other than harmless fun.

[@FirstPassOfficial]

I am thoroughly impressed you actually included the Downstreamers, the book series is amazing, but also not very well known. Huge props man

[@ESFNinja]

Is sand considered an advanced race? They're rough, many in numbers, and EVERYWHERE.

[@robertnelson9599]

?????

[@darthvader4594]

Captain Cutter it was destroyed by me!

[@dreadnought-ai]

Well, it does get everywhere

[@ibrahimmekonnen8259]

Only if it`s part of the high ground

[@thorshammer7883]

darth vader Why hello there.

[@Alex.T1]

I quite like timestamps sooo~ 1:35 - Humanity over 100 billion years in the future fused with Multivac from "The Last Question" 3:04 - The Culture from "The Culture" series 4:28 - Gallifreyans/Time Lords from "Doctor Who" 5:18 - Xeelee from "The Xeelee Sequence" series 6:12 - Downstreamers from "The Manifold Trilogy"

[@carrosivejones1969]

Based on what eck says, the downstreamers sound as powerful, or more powerful, than the Beyonders from Marvel comics.

[@ernstfrutphlinguhr2494]

@@carrosivejones1969 The Downstreamers are... apex.

[@detonater7441]

@@carrosivejones1969 yeah they’re way more powerful

[@plate.armour_0996]

🌚🤝🌝

[@Amaranth632]

For me that the downstreamers are very far more powerful than the Beyonders and even the pre retcon because their civilization is Type VIII

[@bobsonmcgregory7247]

When Xeelee came second, my heart broke, then when no. 1 was also by Baxter, I was so relieved.

[@cortster12]

Ditto. Stephen Baxter has the best scidi race concepts.

[@Siddhant19931]

precursors > xeelee

[@joshuakusuma5953]

@@Siddhant19931 The Precursors have time travel?

[@netbotcl586]

The Xeelee isn't the strongest in the Xeelee Sequence, that would be the Photino Birds.

[@dakotatomlinson8461]

@@Siddhant19931 are you crazy. Halo is my favorite, and the Precursors are ridiculous. But the Xeelee are on another level. And they aren't even the most powerful in their universe. The Photino Birds can Xeeleestomp the Xeelee.

[@javicr7215]

The high ground is the most advanced faction

[@seamon9732]

Obi Wan's faction > everything else

[@xyro3633]

But do the Downstreamers have the higher ground?

[@gallifreyandefense]

I love this too much

[@DevilDude912]

the downstreamers can alter the universe (any universe) such that it is a physical constant that they always have the higher ground.

[@Lornext]

Downstreamers make it so that low ground is better than the high one.

[@fergman3690]

I have no idea... but is that a 'Footfall' reference? ( I read it years ago!)

[@jasoethesentienteyeshapedg4847]

*B I T C H Please* The Downstreamers have the infinite ground.

[@WhatIsLove170]

Based on the little that we know the precursors from halo were pretty crazy

[@Anomaly-uz9pr]

A triggered sjw fr imagine being able to transcend reality

[@war120496]

I'm a little surprised that the precursors didn't make it. they were crazy asf. Control over time and space. being able to make life has if they were gods. I feel like he needed to research them more.

[@xyro3633]

They were the masters of slipspace

[@xyro3633]

lafon Wouldn't really matter, we know very little about them as it is.

[@adamalexander1496]

Xyro we do know little, but we do know they were able to bend reality and even temporarily rewrite the laws of physics.

[@stevegoodson9022]

In the culture series, there's something way more advanced than the culture itself - whatever produced the artifact in excession, though we don't know anything about who made it or where it came from, which is kind of the point.

[@frankmontez6853]

Currently reading that now. Hey do you remember a race , civilization called Hondomon existed there ? Even more advanced and more powerful than the Culture ? That it would be crazy suicidal if they went up against them ..

[@ijmad]

Also there's The Sublimed, civilisations that ascend beyond the material universe, such as the Dra'Azon and Gzilt

[@ralalbatross]

The Excession was designed to travel between universes dragging a star with it. It was essentially a solution to the Xeelees photino bird problem, a godlike AI entity able to evade entropy itself.

[@unknowablestranger]

@@ralalbatross Configuration space manipulation/travel, and the Ring is better

[@BazztheBazz]

Coming from the comic book fandom, I always find it funny when people complain about Superman being "too powerful," when sci-fi has whole civilizations like this running around.

[@Cyberwar101]

Thing is that a lot of this tech is at least somewhat possible within a stretch of the imagination. Supermans powers simply don't make any kind of sense.

[@KRYMauL]

Cyberwar101 Actually, fixed glasses: Heat vision/ solar flare: Chloroplast in his cells due to Rao being a smaller star Freeze breath: stronger lungs Super hearing: Earth has a weaker atmosphere Flying: weaker gravity/ more like jumping with style Everything past that is just writers adding stuff for the sake of story

[@PsychShrew]

I think there’s a differences there because Superman is meant to fight against and alongside other superpowered people, and the issue is that he’s relatively overpowered compared to them. The Xeelee are powerful but they’re rivalled by the Photino Birds, and the Downstreamers are “fighting” against the natural process of heat death itself.

[@Blowtorch87]

*American comic books suck!*

[@michaelterrell5061]

@@Blowtorch87 W..why would you ever say that?

[@loganbyrd4124]

The virgin forerunners vs the chad xeelee.

[@kasrkin100]

Virgin WH40K The old one Vs CHAD XeeLee

[@synthetic240]

I love that two of Baxter's races made it on the list. I first found him through the anthology Vacuum Diagrams and I've been collecting (most) of his books ever since. I'm not crazy about everything he's written, but the really hard, really large-scale scifi he writes blows my mind. I think my favorite novel of his is Flux, which takes place within the interior of a neutron star (it's part of the Xelee series of stories). At one point, someone remarks that, in ancient times, when humanity was powerful, the greatest city was huge: one centimeter across!

[@lamvuong5343]

But the unit used by the human inhabitants in the neutron star is mansheight , isn’t it ?? Does the novel have any explanation how they are able to survive within the harsh environment of a neutron star?

[@synthetic240]

@@lamvuong5343 True, it was man-height, but some knew a conversion, apparently. The reason they could survive is because the first colonists were uploaded human minds inside some sort of artificial clump of similar material (neutronium of some flavor). They just saw the world and everything in it through a human mind-set, if you will, so that they appeared to have a human body-plan and the super-fluid neutrons appeared clear as air. The truth of their procreation was probably a bit different to be sure. They probably have a human-like body-plan; a head, torso, limbs; but their actual perception is a illusion built into each of their hardware. I don't recall if the "animals" and "plants" were something ancient humans designed and colonized the star with or if they were always there.

[@thejuiceking2219]

yeah, it's really cool how it's both largely grounded and also utterly insane

[@DyslexicGamer]

This just made me realize how creative and imaginative science fiction books truly are compared to other mediums. I suppose it's easy being just written down and not having to show it but still

[@JZ909]

I like that you included the Xeelee. It's been forever since I read about them, but I remember I thoroughly enjoyed the book. I have to agree with some others here. It's hard to not include the Q from Star Trek.

[@TheLordPage]

So glad you included the Culture! Consider Phlebas is an amazing novel in that series.

[@ConsciousnessisRough]

The whole series is brilliant. Glad it was included.

[@SomeGuy-nr9id]

I really liked Hydrogen Sonata.

[@Ben23315]

In my opinion, Consider Phlebas is the least good book in the series. Also limited informations about the culture itself.

[@lerrischristifori1436]

Best book in his entire series for me was Use of Weapons. The pacing, the inner monologue, and another thing I won't spoil.

[@Yggdrasil42]

Excession is probably my favorite.

[@lordanubis5076]

Grunts (Halo) vs B1 Battle Droids (Star wars)

[@legendarybroly7813]

Foruneers vs imperium of man

[@conner6717]

Perfect Cell forerunners would win

[@williamcote4208]

Lord Anubis I think the Grunts would win… because when they tried to rebel (yes, they tried) they actually gave the other spicies of the covenant a really hard time. They might be cowards but when they want to fight for something, example: there planet, they are not to be underestimated

[@thyreradim7885]

forerunners rape imperium and grunts rape battle droids.

[@conner6717]

Thyre Radim that is accurate information ;-;

[@bromo6900]

Kudos on including The Culture: such a good pantheon of books. Q Continuum would be the egregious missing one as its not an individual but an entire race.

[@memesextreme4937]

The time lords invented the laws of physics, they did this ‘cause they didn’t like the ‘magic’ of their verse

[@darianleyer5777]

I must point out that before the Time War, the Time Lords could accomplish travel between eventualities with ease. Even after the war, it still happens a few times, mostly to David Tennant's Doctor, but Matt Smith's Doctor once showed up in a Holodeck simulation aboard the Enterprise-D, and survived when Riker said "End Program." As for the Q Continuum....

[@tappajaav]

Xeelee, Downstreamers and The Culture! Those I would've listed as most advanced civilizations too:) (Not in this order) You are clearly almost as awesome as I am!

[@nachtschattenwolfW40k]

Imperium of Men? The primitives from W40k? That was a good Joke for the Silent King - thanks xD

[@scottwaters7252]

The Ancients from Stargate SG-1

[@martijn208]

of course only in ascended form

[@DJGTheAwesome]

Even unascended they were ludicrously advanced

[@Yggdrasil42]

DJGT Yet not even close to what many of the races in this list are capable of. I like them, but definitely not top 5.

[@maniac1797]

@@Yggdrasil42 but he only put timelords there because of time travel and the ancients were able to do that even before being ascended

[@clerickolter]

But the Time Lords in the newer series nearly lost to the Daleks a bunch of losers who were less in so many ways but numbers and brute power so screw them, the old incarnation was better though and had real teeth.

[@minton3647]

This video was amazing Eckhart! I’m so glad you featured the Time Lords, I’ve been waiting for you to even mention the Doctor Who universe for months! Cheers man aha!

[@ninyaninjabrifsanovichthes45]

Me too!

[@musicman951]

He placed them on the wrong place.

[@gallifreyandefense]

@@musicman951 number two for sure

[@christopherpackham732]

@@gallifreyandefense I think once you consider things like The Moment, the TARDIS ending and restarting the universe as a reset button, it is pretty easy to make a case of how insanely powerful. Plus at one point in their history they decided to remove magic from the universe and create psionics instead as they found it more stable and appealing . That's some God tier feats.

[@gallifreyandefense]

@@christopherpackham732 and the crazy thing is how low ball those feats you mentioned are. Those are already so powerful and they are not even that high up. They actually reordered the cosmos into an infinite multiverse with separate universes unlike before, and then removed magic from that infinite multiverse (not just universe), and like you said created psionics. The key note here is that Rassilon did not rewrite the laws of physics. He wrote them in the first place. He created causality, logic, math, physics, and concepts as well. This wasn't simple matter manipulation, this was straight up reality warping, and changing the very nature of their multiverse. They created the infinite time vortex which touched every part of the Omniverse. The DW multiverse is only one of the multiverses in the omniverse. We know that the Time Vortex touched every part of the omniverse because the lampreys live in the Spiral and consider entire infinite multiverses as meals. They eat these multiverses completely or down to finite numbers. Like when Monica Lamprey ate infinite universes down to 18. They call the omniverse their restaurant. The Time Lords also limit themselves. They choose material bodies to watch over the Web of Time, choosing to live in it than above it. Time Lords don't actually live wholly in their body. They exist as a consciousness form outside of nspace, and cannot be killed completely by body damage. As seen when the master is brought back even though he didn't regenerate. But the process was interrupted. The Time Lords also can learn Quantum Mnemonics, the language of The Great Old Ones, which can rewrite universes, or create and destroy them, with words alone. The Word Lords, another version of the Time Lords from another universe learned and mastered quantum mnemonics. The Time Lords keep the secret to its pure form in The Matrix. Their database. So they literally just have it chilling and decided not to learn it. It is apparently similar to Block Computation Transfer, which is what they and the Daleks use to build things. Block Computation Transfer is basically making physical things out of math, and hacking the universe for free stuff and endless resources. But Quantum Mnemonics is changing reality with your words. The Transduction Barrier can take the force of 500,000 Chronovores before falling, each of which can consume dozens of universes easily and much more potentially. It anchors them to reality, makes them acausal, and protects them from antitime, all forms of matter and energy attack and many other things. Only a being such as the Carnival Queen could pass the Transduction Barrier. Though she did not overwhelm it and break it, she somehow slipped by it. It is important to note that the Carnival Queen is the collective consciousness of Time Lords who did not follow Rassilon into the rational universe and were kicked out of Nspace, and formed into a singular being. So, them being Time Lords probably has something to do with that feat of surpassing the barrier. Though with a wave of her hand, the Carnival Queen created a billion universes. So she's also incredibly powerful. There are definitely other feats and other things to say about the things I already mentioned. Like the Eye and the Barrier have more feats and uses than I could list, and are even more powerful than I described, as well as Time Lords themselves biologically and other tech.

[@JP-dz5oj]

I probably would have included The Ancients form the Kirby Series on this list, but I don't blame you for not including them since they are so obscure. For those not familiar with them, their feats mainly include the construction of bizarre and fantastic machines, which includes the Novas (planet sized sentient machines capable of granting any wish), Star Dream (the most powerful supercomputer in existence capable of taking direct control of Novas), The Helm (A crown that grants its wearer complete control over space and time), and the Lorr Starcutter (a Vessel Capable of traveling between dimensions and through time).

[@youraveragerobloxkid]

Still would probably not even hit top 10. Even with both the tech and magic division

[@vataiakos7881]

What's the point of having a ship when you control space and time? You can be anywhere at any time you want

[@EckhartsLadder]

pew pew

[@vataiakos7881]

EckhartsLadder ah i see

[@erebusvonmori8050]

Yeah but you can be pew pew-ing at any time you want.

[@jamesmeritt6800]

Vatai Akos as Kirk asked “what does God want with a starship?”

[@zettovii1367]

What's the point of having a car if you can walk towards any place it can reach?

[@patrickfoos9828]

You forgot the Kerbals

[@madbomer72]

Panda Shot First he said gods weren’t allowed

[@aliensguy4291]

@@madbomer72 all hail our pill-headed overlord Jedediah Kerman

[@c.i.a.7391]

Jebadiah would wipe every race out in a second just by crashing one of his many ships

[@Bananappleboy]

And they can summon their lord and saviour, the Kraken. The Xeelee, and even the downstreamers are no match for a space squid that has ascended above their level.

[@lamvuong5343]

Bananappleboy World pff I don’t even know who they are :))

[@PsychoSubSandwich]

If I recall, the Sleepers in the EVE universe created a perfect virtual reality that perfectly mimics the real world. This allowed them to perform any conceivable experiment with results identical to ones performed in the real world and they nearly instantaneously reached a technological singularity. Their entire race is basically locked away in VR while drones maintain their physical bodies as they see no need to physically roam the stars anymore.

[@idioteque4101]

that was pretty fun to watch. love to see expansion beyond just halo and star wars on this channel, keep it up eck

[@enterprise-h312]

Anime has got civilizations which are so outlandish that most civilizations which cannot traverse dimensions are automatically disqualified from any top 5 list which includes them.

[@nemesisbloodryche22]

I'm thinkin' Necrons, as their technology can warp the fabric of space, time, and reality, and if their tombworlds were to all awaken then they'd be the most dangerous threat in the entirety of 40K and be able to possible warp all of reality at once

[@liamohman7426]

wtf stray nemesisbloodryche comment from 6 years ago

[@Oddman1980]

Look into Neal Asher's "Polity" universe. AI's have taken over humanity, causing technology to advance at a rapid pace, creating a Utopia. In one book, a Dyson shell is under construction, and in another a time-inconsistent matter transmission takes place.

[@mscheese000]

I did not expect you to include the Xeelee! I loved those books but I always thought they were obscure.

[@Bookhermit]

I'd like to propose the Xunca, from the Alan Dean Foster Commonwealth/Flinx series. They were able to migrate their entire (multi-galaxy spanning) civilization across huge sections of the multiverse when they discovered a potentially universe-ending threat to their own, but left behind a weapon beyond even their own ability to operate for Flinx to use to eliminate the danger - anticipating the possibility millions of years before it happened.

[@williamsquires3070]

I would add that the Q Continuum from Star Trek were immensely powerful and could certainly control matter, space, and time. Deserving of at least the #2 spot.

[@orionemperor5319]

Amen

[@connormcgehee9349]

They couldn't even make a universe tho

[@BirthquakeRecords]

I think the Q would qualify as gods, which would disqualify them from this list. imo

[@Kitkat-986]

They're probably comparable to the time lords, but that still puts them leagues below something like the Xeelee. Humanity in the Xeelee sequence is capable of casual FTL and time travel, and their superweapons use stars as ammunition. They managed to drive off the Xeelee in a war costing trillions of lives that destabilized space time itself. Their time travel tactics, reality manipulation and willingness to throw trillions of lives at the Xeelee convinced him that it wasn't worth his effort to save humanity. He packed up and left to rejoin the rest of the Xeelee in their work to escape the universe due to their losing war against a more powerful alien threat.

[@DOMinatorxXx42]

1. Downstreamers 2. Time lords/Daleks 3. Xeelee 4. Celestials (marvel) 5. Culture

[@lieutenantnomad9198]

The Ewokes should EASILY be number one!

[@ar-rafirahman7700]

Hey Nomad who are ewokes?

[@BrokenCurtain]

@@ar-rafirahman7700 Ewoks

[@chrisanderson7820]

The Culture was great because it really went into what a society would be like with functionally infinite resources. Some other good ones: The various super races from the Lensman series by EE Doc Smith (races who are intelligent enough to visualise the entirety of space time). Also the Uprising universe by David Brin, not on par with your list but a group of mega cultures billions of years old.

[@holyroller56]

77th (slightly exaggerated) attempt! XENOMORPHS vs. FLOOD! That would be an awesome matchup

[@Space-Battles-2020]

You are meaning "it is a nice *FLOODSTOMP* match", right?

[@fossilyboi1056]

Hell yah!

[@hazardous8301]

Not even a challenge. Humans of even today’s tech can fight off Xenomorphs, whilst the flood brought the forerunners one of the most advanced races in sci fi to extinction.

[@MetroVerse]

Uhm... how is this a fair match? Even in the feral stage, the Flood would stomp the Xenomorphs.

[@c.i.a.7391]

Dude There’s like 7 vids on this

[@admiralspire8867]

I think Dark Age of Technology Humanity from warhammer 40k can almost be on this list considering that the Imperium of Man is basically just a decaying rotten body of what once was a massive, utopian and incomprehensively advanced humanity

[@陳潔明-w6y]

They are still below the Forerunners, who are so below Culture.

[@AsbestosMuffins]

The Yith from the lovecraftian type stories are capable of time travel, shape shifting, and corrupting everyone with their powerful psychic powers. They travel through space as they are and even a piece of them can become a fully formed yith and if all else fails they can dimension hop to one that they can more easily dominate, all while being basically giant evil trees.

[@detonater7441]

Not scifi

[@roseCatcher_]

Lovecraftian stuff is a whole new genre in itself. It would be pretty incompatible to compare beings like Downstreamers to say, Azathoth who dreamed up existence. Though I agree, the Race of Yith, as well all the races in The Mountains of Madness can be compared, considering that book/novella is the best scifi work ever penned down.

[@jackal8176]

The vex from destiny can do a lot more that the time Lord's they not only can control time they have manipulated it so that there species is a universal constant permanently intertwined with time itself, they can rewrite history whenever they feel like it.

[@lordferbus2970]

So can the TimeLords But they don't They only start fucking up reality when they're at war

[@peperlover99]

I fucking LOVE the Culture. As an Anarchist, they are friggin legendary in their politics. As cool as the Federation from Star Trek is, The Culture is in my opinion THE BEST sci fi civilization/faction.

[@Kneedragon1962]

5. Larry Niven - Ringworld, the RingWorld engineers. 4. Peter F Hamilton - there's the artefact in the Nights Dawn trilogy, which has godlike powers. Then in the next series, there's the people who built the Void, at the centre of our galaxy, and then, you know, checked out to see what the interesting people were doing... 3. There is an utterly beautiful paragraph at the start of an Arthur C Clarke novel, which goes something like "First they built ships of clear metallic gemstone, to travel the sky and space. Then they became ships of gemstone. Then they learned to write their thoughts, their souls, their personalities and ideas, on the fabric of space and time, and so they became like ghosts, able to cross between galaxies in the blink of an eye, or able to drift between subatomic particles, like smoke... They had become the gods their ancestors dreamed of." That's nailed the hopes and dreams and aspirations of technical race, in a few words. That's genius. That's the greatest description of what we want to be and dream of, that I have ever seen. 2. Dune saga, Frank Herbert. In Chapter House, the most advanced people start to see visions of an old man and woman, working in a garden, trimming the roses, who seem to be face dancers. These people were made as tools, as puppets, as imitators, yet they have stepped way beyond the ones who created them. They have godlike awareness and godlike powers, and they have also developed morals beyond the petty humans who made them as weapons. 1 I'll leave blank. As Arthur said, any technology more than a couple of steps in advance of your own, is indistinguishable from magic. Honourable mention - David Zindel - Neverness. The divine order of mathematical navigators, who dive between worlds, galaxies, dimensions, parallel universes, in ships that augment their minds... I can't summarise it in 3 sentences - it's too complex and too damn good! You have minor characters, like the Japanese Zensumi assassin, who tried to ascend to god-hood, by building a computer the size of a planet, to hold her mind, who recites to navigators she captures "Tiger Tiger burning bright, in the jungles of the night..." It takes you hunting with cavemen, on the pack ice, for seal and bear, gets you murdered by the tribe for witchcraft... it takes you through lethal murderous father-son rivalry, through mathematical genius... it is a novel about intelligence, and dramatic failures of human character...

[@AM-kf2zt]

If you make an honourable mentions list, please include the Isu from Assassin's Creed. In that universe, not only is their technology directly or indirectly responsible for almost all of mankind's modern inventions, but they actually CREATED man. The Apple of Eden, their most famous tool could actually control and read people's minds, create simulations of alternate histories, act as repositories of knowledge, but is also partially sentient. Tools which act as Energy Weapons or Energy shields are mere scraps to them. They developed tech which could (temporarily) raise the dead and have them record information, and also tech which could heal wounds and possibly give immortality to the wearer (though the last one hasn't been verified). They can transfer their consciousness to cyberspace, create planetary sized energy shields, power sources which have lasted 10,000+ years and can actually READ the language of time. That means that they can time travel indirectly, rather than physically going to the future, but instead knowing what would happen if certain events are triggered and triggering them to make sure that they happen while leaving any necessary messages in the process. They are hinted at to have visited earth from other worlds and the only reason they were mostly wiped out was due to a double surprise attack of a Human-Isu hybrid led uprising and a Solar Flare which cooked the planet. On their own, each event could have been dealt with, but the two together surprised and overwhelmed them and led to their downfall. They STILL survived that but a low population would have resulted in a population crash so they instead transferred their consciousness to their machines.

[@detonater7441]

Didn’t know about this one, thanks!

[@Gandalf1232]

I would add the Ancients from Stargate. Technology that reached the apex of what's possible in a mortal species, a weapon that could destroy an entire galaxy, oh and a power source that was "as great as the scope of the universe itself." And then after their Ascension, they are described as having "infinite" wisdom and understanding. A single Ascended Ancient, if unrestrained by the Collective, could lay waste to an entire galaxy...

[@detonater7441]

Where would you put them?

[@somegeek153]

I don’t remember them ever creating a weapon of galactic proportions. The best they got was that weapon powered by a reactor using the universes potential energy from time, and that only blew up solar system when it went boom. ZPM are pretty good tho

[@Gandalf1232]

@@somegeek153I meant Dakara, not Project Arcturus. Dakara is referred to by multiple characters as a weapon/super weapon, and it certainly has galactic reach. But also, the Attero Device is a galaxy-wide weapon against the Wraith. I would also classify the Pegasus Replicators as a weapon of galactic scope, given they were created to exterminate the Wraith and had the ability to grow their numbers and make their own ships and weapons to do so.

[@somegeek153]

@@Gandalf1232 not gonna lie. Completely forgot about the Dakara weapon

[@Gandalf1232]

@@somegeek153 😋that's alright

[@ChairThrowingTime]

it's videos like these that remind me why I subscribed. It's interesting, and it gives me an excuse to hear you talk. Love your work. Hope this keeps up for the foreseeable future.

[@Mauther]

Two races I'd nominate, but neither really do time travel. First, the Consu from John Scalzi's Old Man's War. A crablike race that is so far beyond the rest of the galaxy that they believe that even communicating with lesser races pollutes themselves irretrievably. Their ambassadors are killed and their remains sent into a black hole to prevent contamination. The Consu have erected a Dyson Sphere around their home system and have defensive shields and stealth that no other species can even attempt to rival. The only reason lesser species can win a battle against the Consu is because the Consu view battle a religious experience and deliberately reduce their weapons and tech down to meet their opponents. The second race would be the Olympians/Transhumans from Dan Simmon's Illium series. They are not actually gods but transhumans modified to have abilities and technology matching the powers of the ancient Greek gods. So teleportation, invulnerability, super strength, etc. While they do not have time travel they can dilate time. Their powerful enough that they can recreate the Greek mythic age on Mars.

[@SDesWriter]

I think the Lantians (Ancients) should have been on the list. yeah they made the replicators which was kind of a fubar, but they invented virtually every interesting idea possible, they had time travel ability although they decided not to use it, and they ascended to different plane of existence and could travel the universe at will in the form of pure energy. That's not half bad....

[@patrickfoos9828]

Buzz light-year vs Jar Jar

[@DCapybara]

Shrek stomp

[@saywhatnow2173]

@@DCapybara nope Shaggy stomps

[@friesensdiecastcollection2734]

You missed the Perry Rhodan-universe ( perryverse) from the german novel series with over 4000 novels. This is the oldest & biggest sci-fy novel series of the world and started in 1961 before Star Trek, Star Wars........ There are races like "Es" (it ) or Anti-Es (anti it), that are civilisations, that tranformend to one super mind. or the "Kosmokraten" (Cosmocrats), the "Meister der Insel" (masters of the island)...........

[@the_mastermage]

i hoped i would find this here as a fellow PR reader but i doubt he would know PR, and i think it could be argued that ES is a Godlike Entity altough it is techniqually not a god and the Meister der Insel arent that strong, altough Humanity would whoop most Universes ass even in the earlier parts imagine someone like the Empire trying to deal with Ships that have cannon that shoot 1000 Gigatons per shot per cannon and who have shields that can absorb that damage

[@Seyeiin]

Stanislaw Lem had a super advanced civ. They rendered a planet and it's sun cubic. They were so adanced they had nothing to do and so did nothing

[@70mavgr]

You say that The Culture can tap into the very fabric of the universe for power supply or weaponry yet they do not have total control over matter or partial control over time. That's contradictory. Being able to manipulate the fabric of the universe entails controlling matter and time.

[@julianacasas9894]

Im looking entire comment for hours and there's no WH40K fanboy cult community that saying there are most overpowered sci fi faction lol.

[@voidstrider801]

They must have realized that the downstreamers and xeelee could basically fist chaos and the collective 40k universe into dust without breaking a sweat. 40k would get xeelee stomped, multiple times. Necrons, Old Ones (they got their life "toad" away from them), Eldar (slowly going extinct) are all more advanced than the imperium, which is the most popular faction probably. Not surprised to hear crickets instead of angry butter-milk bobs.

[@namelessking4146]

Warhammer fits more with fantasy rather than science-fiction to be honest.

[@reclusiarchgrimaldus1269]

@@voidstrider801 As a 40k fan, I fully agree that any faction that Eck just mentioned could curbstomp the entire 40k universe

[@longwlenguyen4214]

@@reclusiarchgrimaldus1269 You should have be happy the Interim Coalition of Governance are so xenocidal, hypocritical and fascistic to the point that it made the Imperium of Man look like paradise with rainbow and sunshine by comparison

[@BirthquakeRecords]

The Caeliar from the Star Trek expanded universe Destiny Trilogy novels were definitely advanced enough to end up on this list! Their technology is based around basically everything being made out of programmable catoms, including their own bodies. They build Dyson Spheres for privacy, not for power generation (because their own power generation outstrips that of a star’s output). Their entire civilization is devoted to “The Work”, an effort to scour the universe for another alien culture more advanced than they are.

[@Sigismund-von-Luxembourg]

the Interim Coalition of Governance should definitely be above the culture it also has the bonus of being possibly the most grimdark government to ever exist even the Imperium pales in comparison

[@TheAccursedHunter01]

Since I'm a huge Metroid guy I'd like to put the Chozo on something like this... but almost nothing in Metroid in quantifiable. for example, In Prime Hunters Samus goes form the Milky Way Galaxy to the Tetra Galaxy and back again in an indeterminable amount of time with her gunship, unassisted along with several other bounty hunters. This isn't the only example of something like this happening, but the fact that Metroid gives general information about what happens on a particular planet that Samus goes to and maybe a hint about the galactic society as a whole is sort of one of the draws of the series. The aura of mystery is part of why exploring in the games is so fun and immersive as well as giving fans like me stuff to speculate about. It's for that reason that I'd like to see Metroid stuff in your videos, but there's not a whole lot to quantify when compared to Halo or Warhammer 40,000, and you might not have even played Metroid before so I'm not surprised to see no Metroid stuff.

[@lobsteri440]

eck i love your content!!! i wish you have more subs. i have watched your every single video thanks for entertaining me love ya!!

[@EckhartsLadder]

+Iraq Lobster thanks bud!

[@TabularConferta]

Honestly im surprised. You have done your research. A solid list. Glad the Culture got a nod :-D

[@ac1cognitive921]

You forgot the combine from HL2. Considering they can burrow into alternate Universes and can create huge structures like the Citadel in no time flat, they are 100% up there in the top 20 at most.

[@sterilizer5497]

Forgotten..

[@redwinterv112]

The citadel of ricks sounds like a possibility(For 5th place atleast). They can move through different universe's, and can "possibility" move through time. They can also create a universe inside a battery. plus there is basically an infinite number of them since they come from an infinite parallel dimension

[@itsbalistic0915]

My top 5: The 2 aliens from Danny's house Pleakly from lilo and stitch The clone that hit his head on the door Aliens from planet51 Otis from Barnyard

[@VandalAudi]

Ummm, why the Xeelee but not the Photino Birds? Even the Xeelee had to run away from this universe because the Birds are trying to reconfigure it to make it more comfortable to them, and it’s not out of malice as well, the birds just hardly even notice the Xeelee (and the the rest of baryonic entities like us as well). And from the Whoverse, there is a blantant copy of Iain M. Banks’ The Culture, called the People (the writers themselves admitted that they got this idea dropped from the back of a truck, no questions asked), who are on par or more powerful than both the Time Lords or the Daleks (yet, being a happy go lucky culture they just tend to stay off from the intrigues and focus more on self fulfillment and pleasure). There’s also the humanity (or the post humanity culture atleast) from Michael Moorcock’s Dancers at the End of Time (though they have the power to reverse entropy an such, the only thing stopping them are laziness and boredom).

[@WaveForceful]

My top 5 1. the Timelords (Dr Who) Time travellers, seemingly omniscient and masters of the universe and time. 2. The Traveller/Darkness (Destiny) Having access to paracausal or godlike abilities and technologies. 5th dimensional force minimum. 3. The Q continuum (Star trek) Seemingly godlike beings, having access to acausal abilities beyond explanation. Agin having no need for technology and time and space to them are irrelevant, again 5th dimensional +. 4. The Asgard (Stargate) Reached a technological level at/or beyond that of ascended (acasual) beings 5. The Jurai (Tenchi Universe) Access to magical abilities, weakest ships can destroy planets (3rd generation royal tree ships), First generation tree ships were created by omnipotent beings, could create light hawk wings, at the at most limits of time and space. Feedback welcome.

[@random-ht7sg]

w techno muyo + stargate

[@PresidentialWinner]

The Downstreamers are just ridiculous. I mean come on.. The author must have thought "i want my civilization to be the best" and just made it so that it is actually beyond absurd. A type VII or K7 civilization would travel, transcend and ultimately oversee or ''be'' the Omniverse which is the collection of every single universe, multiverse, megaverse, paraverse, dimension (alternate or pocket) and realm. Everything is in the Omniverse, and there is only one Omniverse. Power Source: The entirety of existence. Basically an omnipotent, omnsiscient, omnipresent, omnifuckery bullshit.

[@CaptainPilipinas]

hrm. so just a Single [Flower Game]. got it.

[@detonater7441]

What wrong with that? The point of them is essentially humanity who have won the game of existence.

[@CompletelyNormalHuman]

Hath thou read the book?

[@MiraGOO]

I read the book, his comment is still underestimating thee downstreamer​@CompletelyNormalHuman

[@cominguponinfra-red3038]

Replicators vs a Unified Star Wars universe (60th attempt at a video for this, *_I._** SHALL NEEEEEEEEEVER EEEEEEEEVER GIVE UP ON THIS!!!)*

[@johnsmith-sq6nu]

coming up on infra-red good luck

[@MetroVerse]

He hasn't included the ascended Ancients on this list, so I reckon he's not very familiar with Stargate.

[@ancaplanaoriginal5303]

@Thelondonbadger even with darth sidious dark side power the empire would be done in weeks if not days (even the rebel alliance defeated them lol). Stargate hyperspace tech is a straight shot, in Star Wars the fisical universe affects hyperspace travel. The ancients would be able to pop up anywhere and shred fleets of star destroyers with drone salvos without any casuality, I doubt the empire ships even had time to fire back.

[@ancaplanaoriginal5303]

@Thelondonbadger lantean ships in pegasus had the intergalactic-range hyperdrive capped so the wraith could not reverse engineer them, but they can be easily configured back to intergalactic range as Mckay did with the Orion before the battle of the void. Even their other FTL ways of travel (Destiny and seed ships FTL drive) were out of reach for any other known civilization.

[@emmanuelchavezcastillo6746]

Ive came from the future, you already have 300 attempts

[@shadowprincess9817]

I am writing a sci-fi book ( a project started 10ish years ago with my best friend) and I know probably wont count nor would probably top nr1 position but still I wanted to expose a little about some of the top races I created during the years (not including gods or single entities of such levels, which there are quite some) "Revi's" short name for the Revitalizers, a race originary of the "Old universe" which end (by their own hands) resulted in the making of the actual one, most of them were human looking able to manipulate and control any single cell in their body at their will, such they were biologically immortal and able to use "powers" beyond comprehension due to energy manipulation, due to this ability of theirs is impossible to determine what was their "true" form if they even had a defined one they also made technology to fit their natural talents able to morph according to their needs when directly "linked" basically they were able to fuse with their technology acting as an extension of themselves, they had an empire so vast that was basically universal and they are famous today as the "makers" of most of civilizations living in the universe which they made by coding any possible genetic variation and calculating evolution itself in self replicating sphores( based in a way on the Pansphermia theory to explain origin of life) very few of them still exist today as they used some special device called "Matrix Crystals" to save and preserve themselves beyond the destruction of the old universe, but they lost pretty much all their technology so today the few left are not even close to the 0.01% of what they used to be, and even if they still have their natural abilities and their knowledge they simply have no longer the tools to replicate their lost glory and to make it worse those who survived even being still immortals they lost the capacity to replicate and procreate themselves Zowmory, currently considered the top most powerful race in the universe, one of only 3 known "Lvl 5" and also holders of the largest empire even existed (in this universe) that expands above over 450 million galaxies as well as the most powerfull battle fleet their homeworld (that they destroyed by their own volition to erase the origins of their history when they reached a stellar society lvl) was situated in a peculair galaxy called simply "Dark Galaxy" which center is actually the exacp point where the old universe was erased they are also one of the oldest races as they reached the level of sentience as well as space travel already 8 billion years ago, they spent ages perfectioning and manufacturing their evolution at the point where they removed any original aspect of themselves that was considered to be a weakness( they are NOT immortal even thou they easily live for over 2 million years) they dont have a specific gender anymore nor sexual reproduction, instead they replicate by something similar do a selection cloning process in which they take the strongest aspects of the DNAs of 2 individuals to create an even better one, thus each generation is twice more advanced than the older one, they subdivided their whole species in 4 sub races or "classes" each designed for specific roles with different profound modifications but still having a decent level of common aspects such as gray skin with differnt extension of exoskeleton tissue and big yellow eyes of these classes I will mention only 1, the ones that makes most of their army called simply "Soldiers", they are able to fortify their skin and change it to create natural weapons like sharp claws, studs, and even cannons able to shot microscopical bones fragments acting like fast and deadly bullets but beyond all that they are able to do a " shadow jump", basically due to the modification of their chemical structure they can change from solid to a semi aereiforme state of matter and can pass as "shadows" through solid matter like walls and avoid mostly any kind of direct damage, in this form they do however have to be always extremely focused on keeping themselves together otherwise they may die by "atomic dispersion" unable to turn back to a solid state, these are the most basic kind of soldiers but there are many, many more each designed with more specif roles in a battle, not to mention the "hybrids" they made between the 4 classes almost 100% of their technology is based on the concept of "concrete virtual data", they have a system called "ZUCS" (Zowmory Unlimited Construction System) that allows them to create anything in any shape and form they can immagine in a virtual space, manipulating any aspect of its structure ( they could make a foil of paper with the proprieties of steel if they so desire) and use it then to give an imput to virtual paricles in a specif place in space to create it in real life in an instant, they use it to create virtually endless army, ships, space stations, cities, planets and even stars! the idea beyond this technology is that the whole universe is filled with virtual particles with no interaction charge to become real, so with the right knowledge and technology they give to each of this particles a specific code to replicate (yes I know may sound absolutely broken and irrealistic by most standards BUT they are a very, very old race who had billions of years to understand and develop technology far beyond any one else did at the point that for some may look like straight magic!) there are more than these 2 obviously but for now should be enough to give a glimpse of the level of power some species in my book can reach also probably nobody will read all of this if any at all...

[@thomasciarlariello3228]

Quantum nucleonics of x-rays on hafnium can extract energy from three dimensional vacuum of space.

[@MrBlackburnftw]

How could the Q from Star Trek not be Number 1. They can literally do anything go anywhere anytime. They are omnipotent. Also, I would put the ancients/lanteans from Stargate. They were at the pinnacle of technology before ascending to a higher plane of existence

[@JodaMyth]

Q would be against the rules since he said at the beginning there wouldn't be individuals or gods which Q kinda is imo

[@TheTank1900]

Jason B except that there’s a whole Q continuum.

[@evangreen3080]

This. They've been around since the beginning of the universe, but they're not technically gods. They're also not just John de Lancie's character, so they're a race. And finally, they're damn near, if not fully, omnipotent. This should be #1 on any list.

[@Xo-3130]

Evan Green Simply put the Q are now biologically what they are. Having become higher dimensional entities they are disqualified. Also the Downstreamers are the most powerful sci-fi race. They took a faint single universe and turned it into a a infinite expanse of universes of which they now farm.

[@daisygowanditchburn4844]

I mean there's also the potential power of some sci-fi races. There was (I forgot the arcs name) a chance that the Daleks in Dr Who could have destroyed all of existence (not just the universe but all universes at all times) leaving only themselves. This would have been utterly insane levels of power. Naturally they get foiled so it's not possible to say if it would have worked but if it had, well that's basically it.

[@CL-no3si]

The Daleks are also incredibly powerful, and put up a very good fight against the time lords

[@trollerpilotxiv3079]

The Celestials from Marvel Comics. Hands down. They were sitting pretty with the literal personification of the Marvel multiverse itself.

[@detonater7441]

Not scifi

[@sterilizer5497]

We are talking about sci fi not movies...

[@JillianPrimrose]

Nah

[@rgreed20081]

The Time Lords' civilization is so old to the point where their history is full of many holes. They have seem to forget most of their own origins. All can be stated about the true age of the Time Lord civilization is that some sources suggest is more than a billion years. Like many ancient civilizations, the Time Lords have experience a decline. Eventually one of their own have cause the civilization to Fall. Yet, the Doctor may have to preserve the legacy of the Time Lords, even he/she had forgotten it. The successor of the Time Lords have turn out to be the human race.

[@Flying_Tiger]

You should have a look into the Perry rhodan universe looking for the superintelligence and the cosmocrats

[@xxburichxx]

I'm surprised Stargate wasn't even mentioned. The Ancients, Ori, and Asgardians were all super advanced. The Ancients were so advanced the ascended to higher plane of existence and seemed to have unlimited knowledge.

[@nerdchapel]

Have you watched Stargate SG-1, or any of the Stargate series? The Asgard in that series are very impressive. They show feats of time manipulation and physics manipulation. Another race there would be the Nox. They can make themselves and things invisible. The Tolan are also quite interesting.

[@kstwister6007]

how about the Q from Star Trek.

[@azendantforces1897]

Ks Twister I second the Q

[@NathansWargames]

@@Clockwork_YT the Q would stop 5th and 4th, they'd struggle against the time lords and get stomped by 1 and 2

[@kenetickups6146]

@@NathansWargames I don't think they would struggle against the Gallifrayans

[@NathansWargames]

@@kenetickups6146 it would be fun both are battle hardened races with the Q fighting among themselves and the Gallifrayans trying to keep peace throughout time and space

[@thatlonewolfguy2878]

I think the Downstreamers were literally created in the writer's head like "how super crazy beyond godlike can I make my fictional species? Oh yeah make them exist outside of all universes and able to influence all universes by basically breathing"

[@YEf-ix1yy]

Downstreamers do not appear at all after Time novel. Much less "influence all universes by breathing". Hell, in Phase Space we see that they're still limited by speed of light. Blue Portals can travel through time and space yes, but it might not be a casual feat. Those tiny Portals might be result of patience construction over trillions of years. They create universes.... by making blackholes.... with tech. Hardly on the level of comics' beings who can make universes extension of themselves. (Note : I just reread the novels. Downstreamers are actually much weaker than I actually thought)

[@tailsandscales5331]

Forerunners. Those dudes could move entire solar systems and casually used planets as a power source.

[@stevethepirate2875]

I would have to say that "The Children of the Lens" from E.E. Doc Smith's lensmen's series would have been a strong contender for this top 5.

[@CaptainPilipinas]

people keep Underestimating the Destiny main [Flower Game] verses still. Blind and Ignorant to their own Favored but still Causal-bounded [Flower] verses.

[@lordferbus2970]

Ye Destiny shouldn't be underestimated but compared to the TimeLords who are on this list They're fucked The Vex would put up the biggest fight due them also having access to time travel

[@CaptainPilipinas]

@@lordferbus2970 hrm. did not see you there. I could share some other more with you for more examples, but....here? Scrap youtube.

[@mounthydra]

How about the Photino Birds from Xeelee sequence? A Type 5 civilization made out of dark matter.

[@TheIconianCat]

Barring the Q from Star Trek the Iconians are pretty nutty. Unlimited control of space and limited control over time through their gateways

[@Ford17x]

Your forgetting about the shevians from Decent freespace, they can destroy starsystems on a whim

[@detonater7441]

I don’t think they’d make it onto the list

[@somegeek153]

Not very impressive for these races

[@nathanjora7627]

You forgot Masters of Time (Les Maîtres du temps). A civilization that basically control space and time for colonization. To the least. And when I say , I mean they build moon sized station (sounds familiar eh ^^ ?), just for monitoring their colonization process, which involve manipulating space and time, everybody respect them as they are some sort of ethereal lords of the universe, without even being the most numerous species (obviously, as they don't enter in much contact with humans, although there is plenty of them ; humans ; , whilst their powers would allow them to occupy it entirely. It follows that they aren't really numerous).and it's the only thing we need to know about them : they're unimaginably powerful and all respect them, even if they aren't that numerous and they don't have any army of any kind even mention. And the reason why you should've put them at least at 3 place is because they aren't defeated. Contrary to Times Lord (but okay, we know less about them).

[@johnnykilroy4684]

I would definitely swap 3 and 2 because once you delve into the expanded universe of Doctor Who especially the Big Finish audio dramas and the Doctor Who books running in the 90s, you will see just how powerful the Time Lords really are. I would highly recommend the book 'A Brief History of Time Lords' to get are more in-depth look at them as a species. I think this quote really sums up how powerful/capable the Time Lords are: "We will ascend to become creatures of consciousness alone. Free of these bodies, free of time, and cause and effect, while creation itself ceases to be." - Rassilon (President of Gallifrey).

[@spluff5]

I would also add The Q Continuum and the Celestialsapiens

[@treadingtheboards2875]

Another possible contender for your topic is from the Lensman series of novels by E.E. (Doc) Smith, the novels feature an eternity long battle between the Arisians (Good guys) and the Eddorians (Bad guys.), the Arisians genetically modify human DNA through selected breeding from almost the caveman days to out near future to produce a human being of such power as to defeat the Addorians. Another contender could be Asimov's foundation series.

[@christianege4989]

Yes, the Q from Star Trek are missing. And the Cosmocrats and Chaotarcs from the german novel series "Perry Rhodan".

[@hazardous8301]

Not sure why the Q aren’t on this list. Basically everything you said about number one is also true with the Q.

[@carrieroflight5633]

They are more like a god or fantasy being and not a scientific being.

[@liamohman7426]

They wouldnt be number 1 still, because of the scale of the manifold cosmology.

[@markmool1]

Wait, the answer is "let there be light ?" it's not 42 ?, damn, this computer lies to me

[@1AdamsVideos]

This was a fun topic to consider. While I was aware of and read many stories by Isaac Asimov, I did not know about, "The Last Question." I also did not know the other stories in your list and have enjoyed reading through some of them since watching your vid.

[@1AdamsVideos]

I forgot to add who I thought should be on the list. The first race that comes to mind is the race from which the Q in Star Trek comes from. Q and those like Q have god-like powers. From what I understand they can create matter at will; they span not only this universe but have access to others or at least other dimensions; they can travel in both time and space. The Q civ seems to me to be far more powerful than the Time Lords. I don't actually know much about Star Trek save for six or so seasons of the tv program I watched so I could have my understanding incorrect. Another version of humanity in Isaac Asimov that is interesting comes from the far distant humans from "The End of Eternity."

[@peppermintthegoodgoblin3795]

What about the kantameleons from ben 10?THEY LITERALLY CREATE AND DESTROY UNIVERSES

[@stevenblackwell1093]

The Ancients aka Alterrans from the stargate franchise. Originally the first evolution of intergalactic humans and the "gate builders", they ascended and gained the knowledge and control over an infinite universe(and all derivations).

[@KallahMari]

I'd like to make an argument for another species that, although probably wouldn't make the list, I still find massively interesting. That would be the *Anti Spirals* from Gurren Lagann. The anti-spirals are a race (or multiple races) of beings in the Gurren Lagann universe that are of a similar age to Humanity, although their technological advancement can be equivilated to that of gods due to their inate ability to *never be struck back against*. Quick summary of the Gurren Lagann universe: In this universe, there is something called 'Spiral Power', or the power of evolution. Think of it like a literal power of friendship, except weaponized. Spiral Power is basically a feedback loop of an infinite energy source, which is to say if someone can generate their own consiousness, they can generate a spiral power equal to the strength of said consiousness. It sort of breaks the basic laws of matter, in that matter CAN be created, although it CANNOT be destroyed. The Anti Spirals predicted that a four stage event would happen called the *Spiral Nemesis*, in which the following events would occur: 1.) The spiral races would grow in strength and power, constantly using Spiral Power as a means of energy production in order to constantly expand their empire 2.) These empires would eventually reach a critical mass of Spiral Energy, in which the Spiral Races would constantly add to the Power of the Spiral in a way it was not intended. 3.) A jump in creation would eventually be achieved, thus meaning that Spiral Power would eventually create as many galaxies as there are lifeforms in the universe, which would then create a feedback loop And 4.) This feedback loop would then cause all of these galaxies to condense and combine, forming a hypermassive black hole and dooming the universe to eternal extinction. Of course, the Spiral Races disliked this idea that all of reality would be obliterated, and as such haulted their own evolution, created a masked pocket dimension that was inaccessable to any entity on the outside. This allowed them to basically send endless waves of attackers to bring down the spiral races, leaving them all in a sort of feudal society. I won't go over the entire Gurren Lagann story here, but the Anti Spiral's only weakpoint seems to be the manifestation of their races collective consiousness, of which can be considered like an eldrich deity. The Anti Spirals use machines made of antimatter to destroy lesser races after they reach a certain population limit. If a race happens to be strong enough to resist and repell these attacks, including (but not limited to) machines that self destruct to destroy cities, cages made to destroy Spiral-Based ships, Planet sized vessels capable of time manipulation, probability manipulation missiles, instant teleportation weaponry, a machine specialized in turning Spiral Power into a sort of 'sea' that can trap other vessels, used as a sort of 'net' to any species that can even reach their pocket dimension, create mechs the size of *GALAXIES*, and obliterate perticularly devistating foes with an attack that rivals the power of the creation of the universe. Of course, this isn't half as strong as some of the other species on this list, but I thought it was interesting to mention! (Even if it was late...)

[@cortster12]

The Xeelee, calling it now. Edit: ha! I knew it!

[@Drift1879-l1c]

The systems alliance (mass effect) vs the forces of earth in Star Gate

[@djcuevas1057]

Steve 343 I’d say the tau’ri

[@trashf1re]

Steve 343 SGC would win, hands down. Assuming it's around the time of SG:U, and that it's a single battle, the 9 BC-304s the SGC had at the time could take on the Systems Alliance fleet. They were basically on par (if not superior to) ascended Ancient tech. The Systems Alliance would win in an all out war, however, as they could split their fleets to a greater extent than the SGC, and the Systems Alliance would only really have to take out Earth to succeed.

[@Cyberwar101]

SGU would win. The mass effect civs basically have modern or near modern tech with a cheat mcguffin. They just have a magic material called element zero that makes all their tech run. Compare that to the SG earth - constantly advancing in the face of adversity. Building spaceships without magic metals. Guns that keep working... Directed energy weapons... Access to essentially a portal to evacuate to countless worlds in the galaxy and beyond. At first the system's alliance would win... But the SG people would surpass them in a matter of years.

[@Space-Battles-2020]

1. Downstreamers 2-6. Daleks/Time Lords/Osirans/Xeelee/Photino Birds 7. Q