The $52 Billion Solution To Save NYC From The Sea

Ten years after Hurricane Sandy wreaked havoc on the New York City area, the Army Corps of Engineers is proposing at $52.6 billion plan to protect the region from coastal storm risk. Plan 3B includes seawalls, surge gates, flood walls, levees and more but still can’t guarantee perfect protection. Watch the video to find out what’s included in the plan, who opposes it and how it will change the NYC coastline forever.
Chapters:
0:00 - Introduction
01:44 - Plan 3B
05:10 - Costs
08:10 - Timeline
10:26 - Climate migration
Produced by: Lindsey Jacobson
Additional Camera: Nathaniel Lee, Andrea Miller, Charlotte Morabito
Additional Editing: Brian Lutz
Graphics: Midnight Snacks
Archival Assistance from Debora Schooley
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The $52 Billion Solution To Save NYC From The Sea

[@be4unvme]

I'm all for this, I even first heard about it a long time ago from a geopolitical analyst. The issue for me is that this $52 billion budget will grow to be $300billion and timeline will extend double it's life.

[@willinton06]

I mean, the lives of 20 million people are clearly not worth 300 billion

[@ShidaiTaino]

How can a budget that large grow 5 times

[@mikecromaticm2896]

Hope so. But you are taking from a storm that's around 0.125 % chance at hitting the city.

[@YeeLer]

Just print money, problem solved :)

[@goombahead634]

In that case consider it an investment, seriously!

[@williamdrijver4141]

It's not a question if such storms will happen, just when. The damage over the next decades will be much more than 52 billion.

[@qud3913]

You think this project will cost the stated 52b? lol

[@stevetaxpayer6664]

You've fallen for the climate change scam pushed by dishonest scientists that live on climate change grants instead of working real jobs.

[@ausxau]

​@@qud3913 it would take 75+ years to build it

[@SummerSausage1]

how do you know? are you GOD!

[@joebidenisyourpresidentget2481]

Because every flood event will be billions of dollars in damages. It’s that simple.

[@isabellewilson883]

LA STRUTTURA DEI MERCATI CONTINUA A SCENDERE, FORSE ENORMI PROFITTI SONO STATI FATTI DAGLI ESPERTI. HO SENTITO CHE LA DETENZIONE NON E ' UNA MOSSA INTELLIGENTE NEL BREVE PERIODO. SI PREGA DI QUALSIASI IDEA SU COME FARE MIGLIORI PROFITTI NEL MERCATO.

[@mubarizmehbizadeh5093]

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[@emilyjohn679]

Qui in Canada l'esperta signora Kiana Danial svolge sia il potenziale di orientamento che quello di tutoraggio

[@madisonhuff5148]

non si tratta di guardare video.... L'ho fatto per molto tempo senza risultati positivi, poi ho provato un professionista e ho fatto grandi guadagni.

[@milanpickett7419]

Il suo servizio commerciale è qui in Europa?

[@larapoole2001]

Ciò che mi sorprende di lei per lo più è che dà l'accesso del suo cliente al suo sito di trading per cui possono monitorare i loro scambi su base giornaliera

[@cloudyblaze7916]

Climate change is a real threat that the Government have decided to not take any major action on. We often ignore the devastating effect it could have if things were to get out of hand. Imagine the economic turmoil it could have on the economy, and for a place like NYC, the effect would be rippling, and might spread across the whole globe. The stock market will collapse, businesses will go bankrupt, etc. So the Government should take action today.

[@albacus2400BC]

True. I was speaking to my friend about how this could have effect in the economy, just yesterday. She shared a different view though, but she still agreed that it would affect the economy. Btw, I heard some people have been pulling in thousands in the current market condition despite the downturn. Any secrets?

[@ericmendels]

@@albacus2400BC It's actually quite simple. Just concentrate on two main objectives. First, keep yourself safe by knowing when to sell stocks in order to limit losses and maximise gains. Second, get ready to benefit from market changes. I advise consulting a CFP or other professional for advice.

[@stephenpotter21]

@@ericmendels Yes, I have been in touch with a CFP ever since the 2020. So it's key to not lose your money. That's very important and is the first rule of investing. I personally use a wealth manager, and I return about $30k per month. Not as much as some people might make in returns, but at least my money is safe.

[@victorlaranjahal]

@@stephenpotter21 I really care more about the safety of my fund. Could you recommend the firm you work with?

[@stephenpotter21]

@@victorlaranjahal No, I don't use firms as firms. Their large bureaucracies don't enable good returns. I use individual wealth managers who have a proven track record. So you could check out a couple. I personally work with Sharon Louise Count.

[@ben8878]

I love hearing rich people say we are in it together🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂

[@KateFrancis-eo2rp]

LOL!

[@conbertbenneck49]

Why? Let New Yorkers move up to the third floor. The heating system could then be on the second floor. The tenants now could use row boats to get around. That is good for health and solves the NYC car traffic problem. It also now has an automatic street cleaning system, Each tide cycle will flush the debris out to sea. You can fish out your window for fresh fish for dinner.

[@azrrrrrrrr]

lmaooo. thanks for a good laugh bro!

[@Jason-ji3wh]

You’ll be fishing rats

[@KateFrancis-eo2rp]

That actually sounds really cool! 🙂

[@rack9458]

Even a beaver knows that attempting to stop water flow creates flooding in the opposing areas!

[@chrisk5437]

I think people need to reassess where they live… you live near a volcano, then you better expect lava. Live near a large body of water, expect a flood. You can’t beat nature

[@magee1627]

You’re one of the few critical thinkers left. I agree with you, all animals are nomadic except modern humans

[@Sparky-ww5re]

Spot on. Climate change has been happening for millions of years before the first dinosaur, and will continue for millions of years after the last human is replaced by another form of life, maybe even more intelligent than the human race. Unfortunately critical thinking seems to have gone the way of the manual transmission, having been replaced by social media telling them how to think and act.

[@Murasame13]

Look at California. Constant droughts and fires. Why? IT'S A DESERT.

[@Ripoffanimalplanet]

This is completely true, nothing can stop the flooding entirely. There are too many variables in this plan and flooding damages will still occur at a high rate.

[@JohnnyJay81]

⁠@@magee1627That isn’t critical thinking. Especially if the idea is completely and utterly not salvageable or based in reality. It may sound good in your mind, or on social media, but human nature will never allow that nonsense to happen until they exhaust all other options, no matter the cost. Can you imagine the politics of emptying out the NEW YORK CITY metropolitan area???? Give me a break.

[@RobLandauer]

But we can't switch to renewable energy because that would cost too much.

[@brmadden895]

It's sadly ironic, isn't it?

[@KRYMauL]

As the mining companies start to move away from coal and toward lithium, cobalt, nickel etc. we start to see a dramatic shift in how politicians view renewable energy because all of a sudden it's companies Tesla that are writing the check not Exxon and Chevron.

[@acealexander9070]

Thanks a lot CNBC for this awesome journalism and thanks to all the people involved in this project!! Hopefully all people in the NYC area benefit greatly from this project!! Also: please keep New York City alive and thriving as it has always been, is now and hopefully will stay for many more centuries to come.

[@KazimaliMawji]

This project will be delayed and final figure will be $150 Billion.

[@bro7269]

If not more…..!

[@shinji1264]

Lol that's how it was back then, right now tho we've got a lot more incompetent ppl in power so it's gonna cost 300b and take twice the time u estimated

[@qjtvaddict]

It’s over leave

[@redfox4561]

I mean we spend like twice that on military so id say even 150billion is worth saving one of the most important cities in history.

[@bro7269]

@@redfox4561 Let me know who else you want to be the world’s military leader…..China? Russia?

[@h3n985]

The issue for me is that this $52 billion budget will grow to be $300billion and timeline will extend double it's life.

[@cathie3874]

just wonder when Path can operate on weekends. it was said they were impacted by typhoon sandy 10 years ago but the construction is still in progress. the mighty slowness and the astonishing high budget really astonishes me...

[@atomicwedgie8176]

Well, embezzlement takes money. Politicians can't allow a project this size to go through without siphoning off a huge chunk for themselves.

[@lambangwidy]

we need dutch engineers, they have more experience for doing this

[@evjq]

Thinking about cities with underground storm water reservoirs (Tokyo and Chicago as examples), I wonder what role or viability those could play in a solution.

[@mvp019]

Let it go under - my hometown has become a shell of what it once was.

[@tjr4459]

I worked down in the Wall Street area when Sandy hit the city. The company didn’t reopen until 3 weeks after the storm. Even after that length of time, the water line from the floods were still visible on the building walls, it was about 10 feet high.

[@SummerSausage1]

Good. Put those crooks out of business!

[@chriskim7123]

​@SummerWizz1 You'd be poorer than now without that crooks defending the economic stability.

[@TheMadisonHang]

you know what they say the writing is on the wall 🤭

[@roccoVAL]

@@SummerSausage1 I love those crooks :)

[@SicilianStealth]

During Sandy my street was under 5 ft of water they evacuated us that day I went home to Rye to my parents where we didn't have electricity but we had hot water in the stove. I applied to FEMA and they put me up at the downtown W for 3 months. Sent me a check for $2,500 with an additional month at Gild Hall.

[@madmachanicest9955]

There is more then enough money in the corporate investments and personal income of the richest new yorkers to pay for this program.

[@jubelet]

What makes you think you're entitled to take that money?

[@LoveHandle4890]

Reminds me of the scene from A.I where New York in the future was underwater tbh.

[@thedopplereffect00]

That movie was awful

[@UncoolForYou]

The end of the world is Manhattan.

[@Delosian]

I like Plan 2, one or more large surge gates, as this is a lot like what the Netherlands did to protect against storms. It is the higher than normal waves that are the issue so if you can stop these waves from getting into the low-lying areas then you're largely fine. I would also look at dredging the NY Harbor area and using that to build up the sea wall where NY bay meets the Atlantic.

[@NazriB]

Lies again? Masters Of Sea

[@SummerSausage1]

Great suggestion, what is your Masters and PhD in?

[@Delosian]

@@SummerSausage1 I currently hold a Masters degree in Engineering, a Bachelors degree in Biomedical Science, I am a Senior Member of the IEEE (SMIEEE), I have 23 years of experience in the workforce, and I have co-authored multiple scientific research papers.

[@truthhurts3524]

I was thinking dredging may also be some assistance.

[@squeektheweek6949]

This was exactly my thought, it is one project instead of several and I believe has the most longevity instead of having to revisit plans 10 years from now when things develop beyond the original several plans scope which are still being implemented.

[@ThompterSHunson]

There are no barriers tall enough to protect you from the wrath of mother nature.

[@BigSleeveLess]

So true

[@premium7182]

Fact

[@rochelleperry2242]

God is going to tear that down too WATCH! THEY JUST DON'T GET IT! NYC IS GOING UNDER

[@mvpcilo2268]

Funny part is the people that caused this are sitting at the top of a hill.

[@XOPOIIIO]

Climate change is caused by consumers, not by producers.

[@cwg73160]

The people that caused this are dead. Good try, though.

[@tsubadaikhan6332]

But they also own Beach Houses for Vacations. And they're probably insured for those.

[@BradThePitts]

For the same $52 billion you can build a couple blocks of the 1st Avenue Subway.

[@qjtvaddict]

No longer worth it due to climate change

[@KevinSmith-qi5yn]

The it will hurt the poor and minorities the most line was pretty funny. How many poor people do you know who own property near the coast of the NYC area? Most poor people can't afford property in the NYC area at all. This is an issue with these projects when the ones making the decisions are bureaucrats and politicians. It takes them decades to come up with a plan, come in massively over budget and take decades to build.

[@jerrypeukert5732]

They have to sell it.

[@akadoiphin267]

@@TheDogGoesWoof69 you have to sell your soul to even afford a house in today’s age.

[@JohnnyJay81]

Another idiot bot. Are all these Russian or Chinese?

[@SamsungA-lj1zo]

Would it be possible to build breakers with rocks to mitigate surge damage? Also taking lessons from other cities using mangrove, greenspace, corals

[@KailuaChick]

It’s a nice thought but mangroves are tropical, they wouldn’t survive the cold. Same with corals.

[@stansb37]

Netherlands have this

[@richardnuevo]

Mangroves as natural barriers in that part of the globe? 🙄

[@Time2Live.online]

At the current rate the Antarctic Doomsday Ice Sheet is breaking up New York does not have until 2044. The sea level will be rising by about 11.5 feet in the next 2 to 3 years, and double that by 2030. It's a shame no one took the warnings seriously back in the 1970s when there was plenty of time to deal with this. If I lived in NY, I would start looking to relocate soon.

[@UptownSigma]

From a new yorker definitely soon

[@johnsamuel1999]

That 52 billion dollars will jump to 200 billion dollars 😂

[@adammorra3813]

Very true John.

[@davidmontgomery8938]

Similar work is being done to protect Houston - it's just a necessity at this point.

[@Bryan-eq6nt]

Nigeria did something similar and it worked well. It's pretty feasible as far as there aren't other water bodies getting pushed by the walls

[@briansmith6306]

Time for NYC to raise taxes…..no reason the entire nation should have to pay.

[@aeris...5389]

They should be ready to build an underwater city

[@joegallego7490]

That's crazy, why not to spend that money on planting more trees or on renewables energy sources and the best option is to start cutting down on fuel consumption. China, US and India are really affecting the rest of the world because of their massively green gas emissions

[@TheMadisonHang]

why does this seem so familiar? reminds me of some other sunked cities in europe

[@christophermiller3031]

some sort of energy generation really should be built into this project... be it waves, wind, solar... with such a big project that requires maintenance... making it a powered generating project could make it seem more utopian and less dystopian

[@KRYMauL]

An off shore wind farm and oyster farm/ sea wall would make a lot more sense. I hope they actually incorporate stuff like that.

[@attanborney6992]

Or they could just do something about climate change. 🤔

[@Iwish4zombies]

Either way they’ll tax you don’t worry

[@automnejoy5308]

That ship has sailed, crashed, burned and sunk.

[@geoffgeoff3333]

Question: does the plan include dealing with rainwater runoff from super storm? If not, won't the area behind the storm gates flood?

[@markfactor5952]

Guess rain water will flow from the drainages towards the wall where high capacity pumps will pump them over the wall

[@chaoswarriorbr]

Manhattan is an island in a river coming out to sea. There isn't a viable plan to contain that. Build somewhere else, it'll cost less. F NYC!

[@thegntlemn1986]

Precisely.

[@ismailnyeyusof3520]

In an ideal world I imagine the best solution woud be massive walls that remain hidden until the 100 years storm and then they rise to protect the city. Probably cost way more than 52 billion though, along with exorbitant maintenance costs.

[@HYPEREX]

Sounds like a movie

[@sobeliever1638]

In my mind when the time comes the wall does not rise because a millennial was to busy lving their best life on KZbin and did not maintain it.

[@pl6935]

10x the estimate so the politicians can line their pockets

[@jamesmaduabuchi6100]

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[@dorissteve912]

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[@jamesmaduabuchi6100]

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[@jamesmaduabuchi6100]

Just run a search on her name, and you would see all you need.

[@mikewhite2085]

Ain't nobody falling for these bots

[@Aiordo]

@@wza223-fo3mc They really are 😆

[@jovanabeograd]

I wish NYC the best

[@R.U.1.2.]

You COULD spend it on better office furniture. That would be a once-in-a-day upgrade.

[@miroslavstafi]

Whats about Yellowstone?

[@witness1013]

So - just a years rent in an Manhattan penthouse... seems reasonable...

[@imperialmotoring3789]

I thought "build bridges not walls".

[@hyggemcb06]

Why did the study take 10 years! Sandy was in 2012, started in 2013 and construction expected complete by 2040's when sea level will already be higher...

[@ronblack7870]

add 20 feet to the land. jack up all the structures. chicago did it one time including raising tall buildings.

[@01ai01]

This is a problem that solves itself without a sea barrier. If property insurers charge market rates that reflect the risk, and the federal government took a position of not bailing out landowners, then people would move, causing property values to decline to the point that building a wall wouldn't be anywhere near economically feasible. Problem solved, you're welcome.

[@Triquetra15]

Finally. I’ve been looking for an intelligent comment that understands reality. Why should everyone else have to pay to fix these people’s real problem which is there need to live as close to ocean as possible without ever seeing water in their house. There is literally a whole continent they could move to. If they really want to stay there, I’m all for it, but they should pay. They haven’t been getting out their pocketbooks for people living in West Virginia who are partially poor because of their bad geography.

[@ashleyhill6697]

​@@Triquetra15 the trend seems to be going to no state tax and bigger federal govt.

[@matthewhintz6404]

Reminds me how pre 1950 living close to the ocean wasn’t considered desirable in the way it is today. People who did live on the coast often didn’t even have windows facing the water. The ocean was a source of heavy winds and the technology didn’t exist yet to proof your home from the force of these. How about instead of using technology to force making a previously inhospitable environment somehow livable, we just accept that Mother Nature can’t be completely dominated and we instead should adapt in other ways.

[@JohnnyJay81]

The fact that this nonsense got likes is an indication of the lack of education and common sense in today’s world. Do you not understand global economies, POLITICS, and the societal impact of doing what you say? Do you not understand the massive interruption this would have on the country and the far greater cost? My goodness, how can people be so narrow minded and completely unable to think past the trees. Stop watching nonsense that just reinforces your ignorance and actually try to get educated. But we all know you won’t..

[@JohnnyJay81]

@@Triquetra15Zero brain activity here

[@YouTubeCensorsEverything]

There has to be an engineer able solution to divert flood waters into lower waterways and do it without some giant expensive sea wall. Imagine if we took all that extra water and captured it for our reservoirs somehow. I'm not going attempt to guess if or how we could do that but I can only hope they're thinking about it in a practical way.

[@bkguy11203]

NYC's reservoirs are all located north of the city and are mostly full. Capturing surge water would have to be desalinated and would take a tremendous amount of energy to then transport upstream, so while its a nice idea that isnt something that is really necessary and/or feasible.

[@YouTubeCensorsEverything]

@@bkguy11203 I'm not saying that's the right solution but there's many ways water moves across continents. We just have to think about how to get to do that same thing when we want, where we want. If we can't solve problems like this in the 21st century we're doomed.

[@enriqueshunnar6725]

This reminds me of the Expanse Series New York Wall

[@briangervais5962]

Just start building higher. You can't wall off the ocean for more than a decade or two. I don't want to pay taxes for rich people on the coasts to constantly rebuild after disasters.

[@donaldatherton319]

okay playing devils advicate here: lets say this approved and built and works, what is to prevent any other site on coastline demanding their own $52 billion project?

[@AmeriMutt76]

Been waiting for this to actually happen for years. I mean, sci-fi had this figured out way back in 1981!

[@TheBooban]

Yeah, wall to keep NYC in, not the sea out!

[@fearless6947]

which movie?

[@peterbelanger4094]

It was ONE storm, 11 years ago. The world is NOT ending.

[@veronicalee5937]

@@TheBooban Will it keep their Politics IN though???

[@sexywave]

1:21 I'm all for the wall around NY itself not just the wall in our southern border, know what I'm saying? 🤣

[@thunderb00m]

How the people who own homes on billionaires row make an investment to protect their assets and fund this project?

[@ronbennett7885]

Probably be cheaper to alter the weather so more water freezes over cold regions, in particular, the South Pole. That would draw down sea levels over time. Wall might help for a 1-2 foot rise, but anything more, likely not. Water will find a way to get around the wall including coming up through the soil. Better approach is moving much of the city and/or raising the buildings.

[@powerhouse884]

I ams sure you discuss that with Storm and Professor Xavier already. Brilliant take, hope we hear from them soon.

[@distracting1]

Or we could try and stop climate change by going to renewable energy, wasting less, and planting trees?

[@atomicwedgie8176]

@@distracting1 Obama and Gore have beachfront mansions... I wouldn't worry too much about climate change.

[@distracting1]

@@atomicwedgie8176 "same I also think we shouldn't care about when the glaciers melt all of florida will be under the sea!"

[@atomicwedgie8176]

@@distracting1 Take a glass and fill it with ice, set it on a table, and be amazed that it won't run over, when it melts. Climate change is a money and control grab against us. Statistics show the world is ACTUALLY cooling... it goes through heating and warming cycles. These politicians and scientists pushing this nonsense are demons.

[@cliffwoodbury5319]

Might as well build trillions of dollars of walls on all coast. The U.S. should have began populating the Mid West a long time ago. the North American water Shed is huge and extending from the Arctic Ocean to the Gulf of Mexico and by connecting it north to south and east to west should be a priority.

[@TheBooban]

Smarter to just extend the coast. Problem is cities too near to the water. Can’t move the city now, so just reclaim land and rebuild the coast with natural barriers and give people their natural coast again. Must be cheaper and better solution.

[@crankychris2]

Have you ever been to the Midwest USA? 'Nuff said, its worse than Ukraine, especially the meth!

[@aecath]

The lack of urgency is astounding.

[@asahel980]

If only Long Island is connected whole to connecticut , a sea walls(like attack on titan tall walls) to the south will just suffice and they can make a natural huge water reservoir and can make a hydroelectric dam too.

[@laptopdroptop9457]

Man in a suit says we’re all in this together, check your wallets people lmao

[@dkmooninite]

based lol

[@jimmyliu4614]

Sea walls might be working in the short term, but they become less viable in the long term under projected climate change and sea level rise scenarios. I am afraid that major cities like New York will eventually have to strategically relocate their critical social and financial infrastructure to inland areas.

[@idigrocks]

Places like New York can’t exist long term. A sea wall would eventually fail and they don’t have the ability to stop a flood like that, it would be a catastrophe

[@peterbelanger4094]

You kids are completely brainwashed.... sigh....

Ask Dutch, they have 1/3rd country below sea level

[@BenjaminCronce]

Won't be "inland" for long. Plan correctly, and it'll be water front again.

[@KRYMauL]

@@idigrocks They could exist, but you would have to include things like creating more bogs or natural island to absorb some of the water. The whole over engineers thing never quite fixes a problem like this. Also, I wouldn't be surprised if the government started incorporating climate action messages into eminent domain laws. Maybe would could eventually solve the issue by giving the water a place to flow instead of just being dumped into the streets.

[@beo456]

Our new estimate is now 500 Billion and 30 years to build.

[@jakkeni7212]

If we would have worried about climate change like we should have , decades ago, we wouldn't need to worry about building a wall now

[@yuglesstube]

I wonder how they plan to pay for all this, and it's not just NY!

[@forex4137]

Very interesting

[@linkjag]

There is no world in which climate migration wouldn't just benefit the hugely wealthy. All of the rich people pushed out of lower Manhattan will just be moved to the Bronx and the non coastal parts of Brooklyn and queens which are some of the last ungentrified areas of the city. They'll make those places their new homes and push the people who live there onto the streets. Climate migration cannot be an option

[@DunnickFayuro]

I'd argue that the insurance companies should get involved in the funding of this. At least partially. They're the ones who will eventually save big money from this.

[@sobeliever1638]

They barely want to pay what they should be paying how would this ever happen?

[@DunnickFayuro]

@@sobeliever1638 They would save more money. They like paying less. It's in their corporate DNA.

[@jeremygibbs7342]

At $52 Billion. Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't it be cheaper to build a new city that can A. Handle a growing population and B. Not be in the direct path of hurricanes based on accessible data?

[@Maxine13267]

It’s probably much more environmentally damaging to build a whole new city. The increase in co2 material transportation and manufacturing would exacerbate the problem and wherever that new city is placed we’ll see increased problems as well. If you move it inland and it gets too hot you get droughts and wildfires. Move it north and the weather is erratic you get blizzards with 10 feet of snow. The reality is we have to modify the city and change the way we live and interact with nature to secure the future.

[@AndresGarcia-on9gb]

The damage from Sandy was $19 Billion for NYC and $37 Billon in NJ and that is with buildings and infrastructure being repaired. You're not moving a fraction of NYC for $52 Billion. One WTC alone cost $3.8 billion to build and it's not uncommon that individual office buildings in Manhattan run into the billions of dollars to construct. The real estate in all of NYC alone is worth literally trillions of dollars and if you take into account the infrastructure you're looking at trillions more. Start building all new building and infrastructure and you're probably in range of tens of trillions of dollar just to move NYC.

[@billhorning4023]

"The names Plisken!" Said a guy in a movie with a wall around New York

[@TrilithiumBanditKelsey]

This will end up like the levy-system around New Orleans; whatever ends up being constructed... it won't be maintained, just like all the other dated, mouldering infrastructure here.

[@fortunatusfortunatus]

New Yorker can surely afford this because New York has a "billionaire row" 🙂

[@Rust_Rust_Rust]

You pay for it

[@TheRoyalManbird]

Imagine if someone spent $52 billion fixing what's causing these mysterious rising seas and extreme storms

[@speakingofgreg]

52 Billion wouldnt be nearly enough

[@AmeriMutt76]

@greg9761 the implication (to me) is that the sum of all the expensive "adaptations" will be more than what fixing the problem in the first place would have been. Next week, Musk will claim his mission to Mars is actially a climate change adaptation and secure government funding..

[@riteshshinde3092]

Sounds good but these changes are only possible through systemic policies to incentivize carbon neutral activities

[@chelechillen7848]

Ya you should start. Go live in a cave.

[@TheBooban]

@@kronosaurelius but people are making money with renewables. So adapting to climate change doesn’t have to be a net loss. It’s actually profitable. Healthier. Everyones happier. And not dead n stuff.

[@aero1000]

Why not reclaim a big part of the land as part of a sea wall. You can create a new seafront, and more buildings in high value area which would also generate money, it’s just like Flevoland in the Netherlands, any of the proposed plans are heavily inspired by the Netherlands.

[@r.b.l.5841]

What Sealevel rise did they use for the design? 14 years - likely triple that. during that time, the revised Sealevel rise will blow this design 'out of the water' better move to 70 meters higher ground.

[@JS-pb6gb]

So it will be more like 75 billion. I don’t think block nyc waterfront go with plan 2

[@karenzipern6892]

An excellent story that clearly communicates the complex climate challenges faced by all New Yorkers . Lindsey reports not only on the problems but also on some potential solutions as well

[@Tsukonin]

It will cost much more than that, and it'll be a waste of money and ressources. No plans for facing climate change or even for facing economic recession/retraction. That's insane. Not to mention we don't know how much sea levels are going to rise since we don't know if global temperatures are going to be 2, 3 or 4 degrees higher than pre-industrial times. Precisely because of the uncertainty, it wouldn't hurt to already prepare for the worse, which means already planning relocations of some of the most low-lying areas of NYC's region.

[@twothreefour234]

Flushing NY from time to time may not be all bad.

[@containedhurricane]

Too costly. I bet the Dutch can offer a much cheaper solution

[@pieterveenders9793]

Guaranteed. They did an even bigger project for 1/10th the costs. The Delta works they built to defend the Southwest of the country protects an area bigger than New York, and was designed and built for a mere €5 billion. Even better, it still allows the port of Rotterdam, the 3rd biggest in the world, to work without any hindrance to its shipping whatsoever yet can fully close everything off in less than an hour if needed.

[@markovermeer1394]

@@pieterveenders9793 Too optimistic. Those 5B€ was spend between 1960 and 1997. Taking inflation into account, my wild guess is that it costed around 30B€ in todays money. But better to look at current investments. The Dutch spent 7.7B€ per year (2020) on water management projects, which is just short of 1% of the GDP. 1% of 21Trillion US$ (GDP) is 210B US$ per year. 50B spread over many years to protect NY is not much. Relatively.

[@Arational]

The wall around New York is in the opening sequence of The Expanse.

[@kiyanwest_]

Is the wall to keep water out or the ppl in 🤔

[@FinancialShinanigan]

If anything, 8 million New Yorkers will get free scuba gear!

[@GilmerJohn]

Perhaps the city can gradually be raised up. Start with the streets block by block. The building owners can do changes in their entrances or whatever it takes. There is a precedent for this: when the NY Central RR ran tracks to Grand Central Station, it was decided to raise the street level to above the track level. The necessary accommodations were made. Park Avenue runs OVER the NY Central tracks.

[@jumbomuffin1316]

…. Huh?

[@travellingslim]

"We should take bikini bottom and push it somewhere else!"

[@AlexandrePRODHOMME]

futurama's NEW New York comes to mind

[@andrenewcomb3708]

Salt water purges and flood drainage backing into EVERYWHERE. They saw this a lonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnng time ago. Aqueduct Racetrack.. (The only water they could get for pasture and equine could only happen by importation.

[@Ayo22210]

That sounds like a local issue

[@nitemare1525]

Glad luck nyc with this plan

[@Rust_Rust_Rust]

We don't need luck we are rich

[@woobanger6886]

It ⏲️ to leave the BIG CITY OF DREAMS

[@ragdog1257]

The wave trailer 🌊🤷

[@scoops2]

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[@headlightman]

Escape from New York! 😂 5% of the countries economy and becoming less everyday. How many boarded up window downtown still? All those companies who said they'll never be back! How's that Louisiana thing going now? You know New Orleans? Who's paying for it?

[@Frenchieeeee]

The $0 solution: Don't, fk cities. We don't need cities when we can work remote.

[@nikitakucherov5028]

Invest a few million in PICKING UP THE DAMN TRASH. Im visiting NYC right now and it’s ridiculous

[@saulgoodman2018]

How about work on the the water systems. It floods in Hoboken from just a half inch of rain. More drains, and make the pipes bigger. It will not flood.

[@xaza8uhitra4]

Just redirect the next hurricane to billionaires row and wall street. problem solved

[@ericeandco]

Massachusetts had to put a bridges tax on gas to deal with their infrastructure issue. Maybe Manhattan has to implement a flood tax to take care of their flood issues.

[@Bennie32831]

The Wall idea worked out so well in those city's that were washed away buy suenami

[@leononymous2562]

Sci-Fi, once again, becoming a reality.

[@wtfa2910]

We won't be alive to see it

[@ShidaiTaino]

@@wtfa2910 so?

[@xtuskay]

The Expanse

[@ShidaiTaino]

New York is priceless. The city must survive at all costs.

[@Sanyu-Tumusiime]

it's garbage. i hope we pollute more and let new york sink along with LA and SF

[@almdrs]

I agree!

[@ronkirk5099]

Just think how much green energy infrastructure, wind turbines, solar farms, battery storage, etc, we could buy with 52 BILLION dollars. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. Building seawalls is a waste of resources that could be put to better use avoiding the problem all together.

[@MarkWhiteartist]

Why not drop large boulders into the sea to create an underwater wall that reduces wave size? Similar to how some Caribbean beaches have a "shore" hundreds of feet out. It's better than a visible wall and wouldn't require construction or years to build. The boulders would absorb the wave impact, protecting the land.

[@AndrewSalad]

Have these analysts heard of the Dutch walling off the north sea?

[@markovermeer1394]

Half of the North Sea (roughly between the UK and Scandinavia) is not as deep as the Hudson, and much calmer water. It would protect tens of thousands of kilometers of sea dikes against the rising see levels. NY has bigger geographical and financial problems to increase their protection.

[@gilbertfranklin1537]

Almont every person who lives on a shoreline along a coast of this country, or any other, made the decision to do so on their own. Most of the time it is in whole or part because of the enjoyment of the lifestyle, the view, the access to water, etc. Because of the risks, those who do must realize that in the event of storms or rising water levels they would need help to survive or recapture lost wealth. When such events occur, this help comes from others who generally do not live in these high-risk areas. Shoreline properties are always more expensive than inland locations. Perhaps many of us would like to live on a beach or overlooking a large body of water, but use our god-given intelligence to decline the exposure to harm and loss of the investment. Why should the rest of us (95%) have to pay the storm damage costs of those who can afford the luxury of living at the ocean's edge? They should be forbidden to build there unless they have complete insurance or resources to cover such damages.

[@twothreefour234]

Well said.

[@donaldatherton319]

your comment is certainly something which has to be condidered

[@superelectric8834]

I think 95% of the population lives bear the coastline and 5% lives in east bum f

[@jojotwice8918]

most of the people living near the coastlines in nyc are actually the poor. Coney island, far Rockaway are poor people areas. it's only in recent years that the rich have started to push the poor out with their million dollar condos. ur statement reeks of ignorance. the people that will be stranded will be the poor that can't afford to move out when the floods hit.

[@gilbertfranklin1537]

@@jojotwice8918 - You are correct, NYC can never be used as an example that applies to the normal areas of the US. Everything in that city is screwed up. 🤣