The 6.8 Western ~ Don't buy one until you watch this!

Thinking of getting a 6.8 Western for your long range rifle? It's a great round, but unless you know a few things about it, you may be sorry.

[@bryangrote8781]

Honest, thorough, common sense discussion from a man whose not trying to sell us something. Not nearly enough guys like Gun Blue around! 👍

[@Jeff_Seely]

Not nearly enough, indeed. He has spent a life of service to the community and all he wants this channel to be is a portal for his gifts to further help the community. I call it selfless integrity. You don't find it much anymore.

[@Bushlore1]

In time memorium no less. I sit in awe and learn, and check my ego. This is the teacher Dad/Grandpa we all need. I would had Hickok 45 to that list.

[@REDNECKROOTS]

I agree

[@ralphyoung9296]

Not trying to sell anything.. he is trying to say that his opinion is the only one we should be listening to.. he' thinks he's a gun God.. Not saying he's not knowledgeable, but it only an opinion.. and that is my opinion.

[@allannantes8583]

@@ralphyoung9296I couldn’t disagree with you more. I’ll just leave it at that.

[@rudysroots2789]

I keep thinking of Backfire when you speak of those 500 yard guys. If you can’t kill within 300 yards then hang it up. Fred Bear did it at 20 yards

[@gusloader123]

Bingo! Bowhunters call, stalk, conceal, wait. They hunt, instead of pretending to be military snipers shooting at a terrorist 500 yards away. Get close and shoot straight!

[@Dennisthemenace40]

One thing not mentioned as an advantage for the 6.8 Western is wind drift. It’s higher BC allows it to shoot straighter in the wind. It’s not hard to range a target and find the drop (gravity works equally from the muzzle to impact) but knowing what effect the wind will have over the entire distance is something that even well practiced shooters sometimes struggle with. But as the range decreases, there will be less of a difference. That in itself is a good reason to keep your shots on live game inside of 400 yards.

[@timk4502]

Maybe so but Not All Hunters have equivalent Skills. Some can make those shots, some can't.

[@joeblow4566]

I'm 61 years old my dad was a Korean war combat Marine you remind me of some of his friends as a boy I used to love to listen to these guys I'm sure you're a bit older than I am I like your KZbin channel and I am subscribed you're a wealth of knowledge this old army veteran appreciates it be safe and be well thank you sir

[@GunBlue490]

Thank you for your service. God bless.

[@joeblow4566]

@@GunBlue490 I appreciate that sir again thanks for your channel I really enjoy it immensely God bless you and yours good evening from the West Coast

[@rickeycooley9139]

@@Sako75.7mm08 what are you thinking or what are you saying. I just don’t understand! I don’t want to sound like and a ass hole but l don’t get it.

[@buddrinkerdrinks]

@@Sako75.7mm08 with a suppressor...5 deer? meh...shooting fish in a barrel. considering..you only get two tags, an then one doe if the county says its ok.

[@hankhill3417]

He’s what a man is supposed to be.

[@stephenland9361]

Discussing the pros and cons of various cartridges is a time honored tradition around the hunting camp fire. Not surprising is that various hunters extoll the virtues of their own rifle's chambering. Where I live in north central British Columbia, moose and mule deer are No. 1 name of the game. Black bear, elk, caribou, mountain sheep and goats are also on the menu. Not knowing anything about hunting or cartridges, the first rifle I acquired was a bolt action in .270 Win. I could have stopped there but a few years later, wanting something with a bit more oomph, I got a bolt action in .300 Win Mag. This was followed by a bolt action in .243 Win. As far as big game in my neck of the woods, I've got it covered. Back when grizzly hunting in BC was allowed, I got yet another bolt action in .375 H&H. For reducing the population of coyotes on local farms and ranches, a heavy barreled .22-250 was added. While I do most of my grouse hunting with a 20 gauge, I occasionally use my .22 LR. Any one of those centrefires could be replaced with something similar and I would be just as well served. (.30-06 for the .270, 7mm Rem Mag for the .300 Win Mag, .257 Roberts for the .243 Win etc.) For any game animal there is no such thing as the 'perfect cartridge'. A wide variety will get the job done. That said, it's still fun to pretend to be the best judge of cartridges while around that campfire.

[@caseroj6020]

I admit when the 6.8 Western was first announced I got goose bumps and wanted to buy a rifle really bad. Of course it was during the middle of the pandemic so inventory was nowhere to be found. Now two years later I am less enamored about the cartridge for the same reasons you explained in the video. To me the 6.8 Western is like the 280 Ackley. It's a neat invention and it might be nice to own a rifle chambered for it but it doesn't do anything for me that my 270 Win, 7 mm Rem Mag or 300 Win Mag can't do already. The latter three cartridges cover just about anything I could ever want to do for big game hunting out west because I simply won't shoot out past 400 yards. For whitetail hunting in the eastern woods of north America I will grab my 308 Winchester every time. Thanks for sharing the video!

[@nmelkhunter1]

Very well put. 👍

[@rickeycooley9139]

@@nmelkhunter1

[@buddrinkerdrinks]

same for me...308 for lr..30 30 for brush country...but the 45 70 is peaking my interest now.

[@ottokittel709]

You speak the facts ! I bought into the snake oil of the 270 wsm with model 70 super grade when it first came out. nice rifle, very accurate, but zero no ammo available, nor reloading brass now. The old 270 win is just as accurate, cheaper ammo and no notable difference in killing big game in Alaska, ammo is every where right now. The model 70 super grade 270 wsm is a safe queen with no new new brass, nor ammo available in this country. I am thinking about rebarreling the rifle. Thank you for keeping folks informed.

[@TMar129]

I'll stick with my 270 wsm. Once the barrel shoots out, or sooner if I get impatient, I'll swap a faster twist barrel on and load these now available heavier bullets for the .277

[@jerryziegner]

I love your honesty and knowledge. It’s crazy how many people love “the latest and greatest”.

[@thehopperhopes6365]

In the words of the late Jeff Cooper , ' Why do company's keeping bringing out new products, why to sell it to you. '

[@waynecastleman1363]

It's not always that the latest is a bad thing but the manufacturers can throw a lot of dope on the box that means very little in the real world and I'm not buying the hype. I love the tried and true proformance of cartridges that work at 200 yards and for hunting 300 absolutely tops. For long range target the 6.5 can definitely ring the bell at one mile.

[@thehopperhopes6365]

@@waynecastleman1363 Well it's like 6.5 creedmore , does it do anything 260 Remington or 6.5 Swede can't do ? Sure it's has a few small inherent design feature that may benefit accuracy but overall it doesn't add much for the average shooter. The best thing most people could do is a decent bedding job , tune some handloads and get more trigger time. Accuracy issues are mostly the individual behind the trigger 90% of the time.

[@waynecastleman1363]

@@thehopperhopes6365 I agree 👍

[@MrBarramundi]

G'day from Australia. I agree with you. People get too caught up in hype about effectiveness of calibres on game and forget that the shooter is the main factor. Thank you sir, for your insight.

[@b.z.7618]

Been shooting the .270 with 140 grain Hornady Interlock's for 15 years. Love it and have never lost a deer out to 400 yards on numerous occasions. Great round.

[@NCWoodlandRoamer]

The .270 Win and those 140 grain bullets are a fantastic combination! I reload and shoot that same bullet in my .270.

[@fjb4932]

B. Z., Those 140 grain bullets are the cat's meow in the .270 Win.

[@NCWoodlandRoamer]

@@fjb4932 They sure are a fantastic combination.

[@rampantcolt1684]

Good wisdom Sir! Love my .270's (Remington 721 & 700 BDL), both have taken too many deer to count. Flat shooting, hard hitting and accurate as hell. Jack O'Connor had it right.

[@forgottenman749]

After this last review I’ve watched about the 6.8 Western, I’ve finally made up my mind. I will be ordering my new rifle in 6.8 Western. If even these most experienced, veteran skilled and cartridge knowledgeable experts like Blue can say that the 6.8 Western is an excellent cartridge with very high potential then that’s all I need to make my decision. If I already owned a .270 Winchester then maybe I wouldn’t but because I’m in the market for purchasing a .277 caliber why not choose the 6.8 Western because of its range of options all throughout the bullet weight and range of BC. Thank you Blue for giving me all the information I needed to make my decision. I always respect your point of view on these issues.

[@Master...deBater]

I'd buy a reloading kit and a bunch of brass...because that cartridge might not be around for very long!

[@austinreddick1875]

The rifles are sorta hard to find what model are you gonna get?

[@cbsbass4142]

@@Master...deBater Pretty much. It will likely go the way of the .270 WSM...just a has been.

[@zachcragoe]

@@austinreddick1875 picked up a browning xbolt a couple days ago

[@MilkMan608]

@@cbsbass4142 Has been? I love mine. She's a keeper.

[@sparky_-mf2cs]

270 win still my favorite. I also love the 308

[@4570levergun]

Very good info. The 270 is a great all around cartridge.

[@oldArmyVet]

These videos are better than anything on TV. Great wealth of knowledge.

[@rudydsouza8262]

You are a Great Guru to me and I greatly appreciate the knowledge you share. God bless you and your family.

[@davidmalone4017]

These videos are truly the very best --thank you so much for your time!!!

[@richardpiau7546]

So interesting! Really appreciate your approach to the subject. Thank you!

[@stephenhair5501]

Well researched and stated. You presented some honest facts and practical things to consider. It makes perfect sense. Thanks for sharing and God Bless.

[@beefcakes27]

The Real Gunsmith said essentially the same thing as you in his own way after this video. It's nice to hear a concensus from educators I trust. Thank you.

[@fermentillc]

Of your commentaries cartridge lore is my favorite content. Thank you for this rationale comparison of pros, cons, and marketing mythology.

[@t.j.speakman7723]

Just found your channel and have been watching ever since. I enjoy the talks and instructional videos as well. It's kind of like the talks I have with my friends. Thank you.

[@mertonsilliker3686]

Such a pleasure to listen to common sense display of information, well done. It’s great to air out the outhouse with a breath of fresh air. And you my friend are just that, a breath of fresh air. Take care

[@MrMrmetro]

You are a treasure, sir. So glad you have made your wealth of information available to us! I have been on the fence with the 6.8 and your comment about the cost of powder & recoil vs performance should be the main consideration. Your approach makes so much sense. That makes it simple.

[@ToadfishTodd]

I always enjoy your videos. I think I recall in one of your videos you mentioned being an MP in Vietnam. My father was in the 23rd MP company Duc Pho 1968-1969. God Bless you sir!

[@Bashe1965]

I purchased a Browning a-bolt in .270 WSM many years ago and at that time I didn't know much about that particular cartridge. The main reason I purchased it was that it was on the rack as a used but never fired rifle and the price was right. A local doctor had purchased the rifle to take on a African safari trip then returned the next day to trade it for the .300 WSM. To my surprise when I came to pick up the rifle after my 10 day waiting period (California) they also gave me two boxes of Failsafe ammo and leupold bases and rings still in the package! As a hand loader I've really enjoyed the .270 WSM it's all the rifle I will ever need. I currently shoot the Barnes 129gr lrx because of the NON-LEAD bs that Cali makes you shoot. But that bullet performs very well and is very accurate too.

[@markcarraway879]

Thank you for your time, research and great information. God bless you and yours!

[@DeerHunter308]

After I got my Breakfast and coffee, I sat down and opened my Google/KZbin and was pleasantly surprised to see this new video. Thank You so much for this. As a traditionalist I love these comparison studies and I trust you to be honest. And now I will watch the rest of it.

[@markphillips9454]

I've been a long time subscriber to your channel, but never commented. Just want to say thank you for sharing years of knowledge, I've learned more on your channel than any other. Thank you and God bless.

[@wayne8276]

I have high reguards for your knowledge and ability to convey it to me and others . God bless you and your family and Benny . Always a pleasure Sir . Thank you .

[@zygotepeyote]

Once again the voice of reason is also full of wisdom. Thank You Sir!

[@GunBlue490]

You're quite welcome.

[@vincef5832]

Covered a lot of ground . The general information less specific to the .270 is excellent. That’s what makes your videos so exceptional. The input you offer is particularly helpful to newer shooters and helps to give depth; even for experienced shooters. To be able to make good evaluations and maintain proper perspective is conducive to preventing nonsense and waste. When I started taking an in depth interest to learn more about firearms,ballistics,reloading,etc., your videos answered many questions. Good stuff as usual GUNBLUE-Thanks

[@rhugh02]

Love the wealth of knowledge I get from this channel. Thanks! Subscribed.

[@cuttheknot4781]

I hope you are well my friend. We are worried about you. Please give a shout as soon as possible. God Bless you and your family...Happy Spring!!!

[@davidjamescomiskey9692]

Greetings, I am so glad that I stumbled upon you sir. I am in the process of getting my PAL in Ontario and am watching every one of your videos. Thank you for doing what you do. I am learning so much from you. Kind regards from Ontario, Dave

[@donnysanner342]

Love this guy , he has absolutely no bullshit with him. Not trying to sell us something we don't need.

[@paulsimmons5726]

Another great video, thank you! Hope Benny is doing well.

[@marksnow348]

Thank you for your well thought out and knowledgable videos. I am 67 years old and am totally new to rifle shooting and rifle care. Last summer (2021) while visiting my uncle out in Montana, he decided to give me his dad's (my granddad's) deer rifle. It was interesting, but had this weird side loading magazine. I was traveling around the country for the summer and went from Montana all the way to New England. (I live in Alabama.) I was touristing and while in MA I decided to visit the Springfield Armory NP. Lo and behold as I'm walking around looking at exhibits, I see an exhibit that had my granddads rifle in it! Turns out my uncle gave me my granddad's 30-40 Krag Jorgensen rifle (actually it is the carbine type). When I took another look at my granddad's rifle, I saw it had a stamp on it for JSA 1902. Needless to say I was kind of excited. But I also wanted to see if I could use the carbine (a couple of videos showed me it is a carbine), so I started YouTubing for videos on how to care for rifles. I have watched your videos on how to clean and care for rifles and have followed very carefully how to do it since I'm brand new to caring for guns. I managed to find a manufacturer that is still making 30-40 Krag ammo and I was able to get some. I took the Krag out to the range last week and put 20 rounds down range. As a newbie I was able to get a grouping of about 5" at 25 yds for all 20 rds. Someone (my granddad or

[@retiredtofishwildbill4304]

Thank you for another great video. We will keep our 270, mainly because it works for me. Take care and God bless you and your family

[@scottsozmtns7534]

Well, Sir GunBlue490…..you’ve done it yet again! You’ve given me personally a wonderful historical & factual based on the .270 & the 6.8mm Western. Very informative & eye opening. Thank you! Also, you mentioned the 6.5 Creedmoor vs. the .260 Remington, of which I have to admit I’m a very big fan of the latter, the .260 Rem. A couple years ago (maximum), just receiving my latest issue of “Shooting Times”, I began to read the cover page & the stories & overviews of rifles & pistols. As I began to read I noticed that this particular issue contained 5-FIVE, yes 5 different stories/reviews of the 6.5 Creedmoor in the same magazine. I was perplexed to say the least but thinking of columns past, I recalled the enormous amount of articles covering the 6.5 Creedmoor. It seemed as EVERY firearm writer out there was proclaiming the Creedmoor the “End-All/Be-All”, cartridge & all others should cease production now that the Creedmoor had arrived. I do not deny it’s good points but as a fan of the .260 Rem., I couldn’t help but feel as the .260 Rem, 6.5x55mm Swede, 6.5 Grendel, 6.5 Remington Magnum, 6.5x47mm Lapua & the .264 Win Mag (& the wildcat 6.5x06’), were being deliberately overlooked by these so called writers. As I dug into the relationship between Hornady & the majority of magazines for firearms & the writers therein, I found it would be nice to have either the money $$ or the “FREE”, hunting trips to closed game ranches & Africa for dangerous game, that Hornady has spent to push their baby, the 6.5 Creedmoor as the 1 & ONLY 6.5/.264 you ever will need, end of story. Of course I’ve never read a gun writer that ever found or tested/reviewed ANY firearm they didn’t like. I did however think my irritation based on Hornady’s swooning over the gun writers & the free firearms & hunting trips was more than warranted as NONE of the current Magazines & the writers that review firearms within, NEVER compared (as you say), Apples-to-Apples comparisons against the 6.5 Creedmoor. I’ve found that out of the 3 rifles I own chambered in .260 Rem, in a Savage Model 10-Predator Max 1 w/AR-10 magazine from AICS & bedded stocks, a Remington Model 7 “Mountain Rifle”, w/Thumbhole stock & my Tikka T3 .260 “Forrest”, model will all shoot very accurately w/various different factory loads & even better with hand loads, but none of the 3 shoot the exact same primer, powder & bullet combo the exact same. I’ve heard you speak different times about the .260 Rem., and you’ve always refused to condemn it or the many other 6.5/.264’s out there. In my humble opinion Hornady only came forward with the 6.5 Creedmoor as they stood upon the shoulders of the many GIANTS that have came before them. They were one of the last or later to introduce their own 6.5mm offering & to me they actually hamstrung the cartridge by what could be used to reload for it my shortening it’s case. I think it’s personally one of the few 6.5mm’s that are extremely “limited”, in terms of loading it for performance. That’s not to say it can’t be done, but one must be good @ reloading & have more skills than the average home hand loader. As always thank you for your straightforward reviews & wish you well and all the luck for this upcoming hunting season. Thank you!

[@MrJtin69]

Ron spomer used the 6.8 western to take deer at 777 yards 1 shot instantly down

[@davidjohnson4451]

His longest shot ever. He got a lot of negative comments on that. The 6.8 Western was MADE for cross canyon shots.

[@timk4502]

​@@davidjohnson4451 Negative comments from some people with their Panties in a Wad, eh?! 😅

[@josephland8876]

I love your content. Thanks for doing it. I'm new to hand loading and your channel is a wealth of information. What I find most valuable is the manner in which you give instruction. For lack of a better way of putting it it's like being an apprentice. Every step is explained in detail. While other channels kind of gloss over details as if it's common knowledge. For someone new to things like me it's very reassuring to get very clear and concise instruction on the terminology, processes, and order of operations. Once more you're greatly appreciated. God bless and thank you.

[@stevenlefebvre2991]

You are always such a wealth of knowledge thank you very much.

[@efrencarrasquillo1077]

Been waiting on your take on this caliber for a while now, glad I waited. Thanks

[@Jeff_Seely]

I do see the merits of the 6.8 Western bullet weight that is available and agree completely. But I still think that I will stick with my dear 270 Winchester. One of the most commercially available, flattest shooting, and most accurate cartridges in my gun safe. I love the 270 as you do Captain and and the hunting situations that would cause the Westerner to excel would only cause me to step over to my 30-06 which is also very commercially available. I enjoy listening to your pragmatic perspectives on issues like these as I always do!

[@travissmith-wz5nc]

I believe I'll stick to the 270 also. I may try to build a custom 270 with a faster twist barrel and hand load the heavier bullets. Thinking 1 in 8 twist 24 to 26 inch barrel.

[@Jeff_Seely]

I would favor that idea above the 6.8 Western, if I needed the bullet length/weight if for no other reason than cost. Those western rounds. By the time you buy the rifle, dies (and other reloading items), and any high-priced factory ammo you'd probably be happier with your decision. Plus, the recoil is more manageable, as the captain pointed out. And I like to build too. But here in Texas Hill Country our deer are smaller than many of the other hunting zones. Rounds between 243 and 270 are plenty for these animals.

[@borkwoof696]

@@travissmith-wz5nc not trying to discourage you but at that point why not go with the Western?

[@Master...deBater]

@@borkwoof696 Because it's questionable whether it will even be around in ten years. As a 300 Win Mag shooter...I remember when all the writers said the 300 WSM and RUM would dethrone the WM! 20+ years later the WM is still the king. I bet in another 20 years all these new fangled cartridges will be gone...and the old tried and true cartridges will still be going strong. It's all hype and marketing by the manufacturers to sell more rifles.

[@mfallen6894]

@@Master...deBater Exactly. So many cartridges come and go, some of them for good reason, others because for whatever reason no one ever took notice. I currently own a .338 Federal, absolutely love the cartridge, but it's on its death bed, and even if we ever see normal ammo supply again, I doubt the .338 Fed will even be supported by then. Not going to make that mistake again by replacing the .270 with a 6.8W, or .243 with one of the many 6mm's that have come out lately. Especially when a custom barrel with faster twist revitalizes these old cartridges anyway.

[@auggiedog5]

Great info!!! As a long time hunter and shooter ,You are right on the Mark !!

[@melechc7267]

A .270 Winchester is all that and a bag of chips ! Hundreds of reasons why it is one of the greatest hunting cartridges of all time. I use a .300 wm for big game but rifles in that cal. tend to weigh more and yet still recoil enough to cause temporary blindness. My 84 year old Dad still swears by his 700 rem in .270 win. He has taken many moose, elk, brown bear, mule deer, and pronghorn. You can buy ammo EVERYWHERE ! BTW , Your 700 is absolutely BEAUTIFULL !

[@GunBlue490]

Thanks! Actually, it's a new Winchester Model 70.

[@garagemetalshop7975]

Where have you been all my life? I stumbled on your channel going down the 35 Whelen rabbit hole. Your videos are captivating and so informative, and remind me of the America I love. God bless you always, sir.

[@jeffshay3415]

Love your wisdom and videos almost as much as my 270 Win.

[@Hungrybird474]

I love all of your vids sir and have learned quite a bit from putting the time into watching your vids which are extremely interesting to me . 👍👍 I appreciate you sharing your knowledge of firearms and the history and all the aspects . I will certainly pass down the things I have learned to anyone who will listen . I prefer the wood and steel guns and rifles to pistols . Born in 70 so been shooting a while and I like to keep using what had been working for me like 30.06 amd the other rounds gun enthusiasts have grown to love over the years . 30.06, 30-30, 7 mm , 270 , 243 , .22 , 5.56 , You are a good man . May God bless you and your family . I hope your pup Benny is doing ok . I lost my white lab and it breaks my heart when I hear of someone losing their companion or any death for that matter . Lately things have been rough around here with my parents having surgeries and being unable to be mobile . Everything was fine last year and then all of a sudden both of them having problems and it’s been going for awhile now . I have no problem stepping up and taking care of things around the house , going to the store and doing laundry or anything for that matter for my family . I really do with you the best in everything . I can see you are a good family man .

[@sideshowbilly3755]

It's your videos like this that make me subscribe to and love this channel so much. They are so incredibly insightful and useful.

[@MaxAntihero11]

Man weather I’m watching you or Peter Schiff. I watch you guys because you both stick to the numbers. Thank you for sticking to the numbers

[@stevemahrer7097]

I have a Browning 1885 in 270 win. The 28” barrel takes the 270 to new heights. I have chronographed Hornady 143 gr. ELDX at 3050fps, with no pressure issues. That is enough for me, and likely anything I will ever shoot here in MT. Thanks for the reality check, and rationale behind this video. Good job!

[@jeffgenchi5863]

As always. Excellent. Love the data. Thank you very much.

[@hectatusbreakfastus6106]

I gotta say thanks, I learned how to reload from your channel. I find it to be a very very relaxing hobby.

[@proteus371]

I have learned so much from you, I'm going to call you Dad. Thanks, and God Bless.

[@linemen71]

I’ve been waiting for you to do this video!!! Just looked it’s an hour long… awesome! But I’m going to have to watch it tomorrow when I get time on my drive to work.

[@rappmasterdugg6825]

Thank you for you consistently excellent information and presentation. Peace to you.

[@skymaster9484]

The only time I ever felt undergunned with my 270 was my first trip to Idaho in the early 80's. Every shot was consistently well over 500 yds it was like shooting a 81mm mortar high angle hell. When I got back home a friend got me hooked on the 300wm for long range outta state work, but to me the 270 is still my favorite rifle for anything that will be 300yd shooting maybe even 400yds. Anyway I've had alot of calibers in over 50 yrs hunting but my favorite ones are the 270 and 300wm.

[@silvermediastudio]

6.5 PRC has also shown good results at range against elk, given the proper bullet, such as a Nosler Partition or the Norma version. Less recoil and I believe less wind deflection than the 300WM but shorter barrel life. Always trade-offs.

[@nathanhuxtable5758]

Wonderful video. I first found you because my grandad had a 250-3000Sav 1899 levergun. He used it with an approx 100gr bullet to hunt whitetail here in upstate NY (50-100yrds or less) in the brush. I love your style! And am always looking forward to the next installment. Give Benny a hug for us, and enjoy Easter! God Bless you and yours.

[@alphajam1]

I have been listening to you for a few years silently. Really enjoy your videos. I appreciate your wisdom and knowledge and learned a lot from you. Your one of the best out there, at least on youtube.

[@GunBlue490]

Thank you, God bless.

[@alphajam1]

And also with you!

[@JJGuccione]

Fantastic VDO - I admire the no bashing or waving of pennants. I like you brought about the fact the 6.5 Creedmoor fits in an AR-10 magazine. That was the impetus for me purchasing an AR-10 in 6.5 CR and a Mauser chambered in 6.5 CR. Barnes VOR-TX 127 GR will be tested in short order.

[@jasonweishaupt1828]

A new solution (caliber) searching for a problem. They use to make new calibers to fill a need. Now they make new calibers to make sales.

[@marksnow348]

Anyway, I am using your cleaning methods each time I come back from the range. Thank you for your detailed instruction videos. BTW the Krag shoots just fine, even though it is 120 yrs old now.

[@dbcooper7359]

Enjoyed the discussion. Was able to follow the various wgts and velocities. Suggest you consider a visual table. So the figures are up for a few moments. Perhaps an erasable white board, off to one side. Would allow time for pondering the variables. Listening and seeing the info reinforces understanding and learning. Thanks for the review. 🤔

[@j.c.lepley1881]

Always enjoy your perspectives and knowledge. I think I have seen most of your videos, some twice.

[@GunBlue490]

Thanks for your support!

[@troyspurling1910]

Great content! I appreciate your experience and opinion.

[@lordligma2529]

You are incredibly knowledgeable and the way you carry yourself is something missing from this generation

[@judodavid1]

Thank you for the knowledge.

[@montanamusings]

I just ordered a 6.8 Western. I really like the short action. Thank you for your common sense analysis.

[@isellcatlitter]

i say just buy a .308, you can get ammo for it. even 30-06 and .270 is hard to find...

[@07blackdog]

Well, that was comprehensive. Very good assessment; and I learned a few new sayings!

[@andyd2960]

I can also say that the 6.8 western probably does a lot better in the wind. I'd put wind deflection above drop at ranges. I have never needed more than a .308 myself, so I don't have a horse in this race.

[@spookytkid]

bc is always changing as a bullet moves through the atmosphere. its a fools errand chasing BC. but ppl like to be parted with their money. So tbe industry will always market something different.

[@jamesR1990]

Thank you Sir as always for your shared wisdom. I've been researching my first hunting rifle for about a year now. And I am considering 6.8 Western as I live in southern New Mexico (from Dallas Texas) and it seems like a good round for the game locally. The only bolt action I own is an old Mosin Nagant and I haven't had any issues with recoil so I think this would be doable if I end up going that route

[@randycarpenter2914]

Your knowledge is valuable and enjoy watching your videos. I have a 300 win mag it's all I have ever owned since a young man. I enjoy it and would shoot more but prices are over the top now. My wife has a youth model 243 and to me the recoil is felt more than my rifle. I have never shot a deer further than 300 yards. It has always amazed me to see my impact before recoil moves the sight picture. It's just my choice of rifle and I am not degrading anyone for what you use as long as it's ethical for the game. Thank you again and keep up the good work. God bless

[@darwinswarey5076]

300 win mag has been my favorite for a long time. I have a 270 win, and I always thought the recoil was worse than my 300 win mag. I can shoot the 300 far more accurately.

[@rbeck820]

I'll stay with my 270. Love it and always have.

[@davidgoldberg]

That was a very informative video. Thanks!

[@petrusbosman3055]

Love your content! It is the best honest channel on YT! I am rebarreling my .270win right now(the barrel is done) in a 1:8 twist. I would like to state with the worn out barrel and chamber I could safely shoot 130gr SGK with IMR4350 @ 3400fps! So maybe I will give those heavy bullets a go. Only shooting the plains here in sunny South Africa. 250-500yard shots but taken from very stable platforms. Thanks again for the great advice.

[@chickimac1]

I just acquired a Swiss K31. I recently put an old 3x9 redfield accuview scope on the rifle. Can’t wait to get it out and sighted in for whitetail hunting

[@myanaloglife9450]

God Bless You Captain, you inspired me to start reloading I may one day cast, I have the itch, we’ll see as you’ve said lead is interesting and Not to be taken lightly, I’m now studying and practicing your multiple part series on pistol shooting. I’m a ok shooter, yet we all benefit from training and practice,But it’s not every day you get the benefit of instruction from a professional with the depth of experience as your self. God bless you and your family. How is Benny I know he was sick and was blessed with more time, and the cat I’ve seen in the background a few times. Thank you Ivan Your friend in Chicago.

[@donaldmoser7732]

Thanks, for your educated analysis. I share your opinion on hunting game within reasonable distances. There is nothing better than getting within 35 to 40 yards of big game and respectfully harvesting the animal. Keep up the good work.

[@michaelgrimes83]

And I just picked up a Remington 700 257 Roberts 1970 collectors edition from a buddy of mine. It’s only ever been fired at the factory, he got it off a friend and I offered him a little more then he paid, it’s a beautiful fire arm!! I like normal cartridges but but I also like the odd balls as well.

[@dansaver8247]

Terrific, detailed commentary. 270 Win for me.

[@DC632A]

I’ve never heard of this firearm or cartridge. Thanks for your knowledge and the lesson 🧐

[@noahgrady3628]

Hooooooold it…. Brother you’ve never heard of a .270?? So, are you American? Are you, human? (Honestly, just kidding)..Buuuuut, man if you’re being real here, go out tomorrow, find one made by nearly anyone, Savage, Browning, Sears and Roebuck, really won’t matter, and buy literally ANY ammunition from ANY manufacturer and ENJOY!! Lawdy! I’m a hoe..I love em all. But, an old Savage bolt .270 spittin out 130 gr loads is more fun than that girl (you know that girl)…fast, fun and easy! Accurate to a fault and takes a deer b4 Gabriel knows he’s missin!!

[@joshuabrown4030]

You raise a lot of good points. I think the current industry focus on long sectional density bullets is shooters turned off to the hot magnums that were such a focus of the mid-late twentieth century, both for expense of ammo and heavy recoil, and expense of the firearm itself, and sometimes destruction of meat with those high velocity rounds at close ranges. But what has kept me on the fence is the limited range of chamberings, and particularly bullet weights. I'd actually begun to wonder if the fast twist rates just made it nonviable for accuracy with the light bullets or pushing light bullets with the full powder load on those necked down cartridges burned out the fast twist rifling too fast, but you raise an interesting point about manufacturers not wanting to compete with their other loads. Unfortunately, that also reduces the attractiveness of these new "do everything" high sectional density cartridges, at least to me as a consumer. Always appreciate the content and your eye to history, and particularly your insights as a reloader, an area I'm not particularly knowledgeable myself.

[@CARLPHILLY]

I've hunted with the 270 Winchester for many years, and have taken many animals, before I started loading my own rounds I used the Winchester silver tip ammo. I load my own rounds now and I really like Nosler, the partition, ballistic tip, and ballistic silver tips all work well for me.

[@BenMosley]

Well said. I've got my old 270. When I started to get the 6.5 bug, I looked at the books and saw it wasn't doing much more than what the 270 was doing- for my uses. Not knocking 6.5- just saying newest and best is fun but not always needed if you've already got that niche filled.

[@AntiPattern328]

The store clerk.... "270 and 6.8 Western are totally interchangeable!! Its awesome!!!

[@mfallen6894]

Was wondering when you'd do a vid on this cartridge! Know you love the .270 (as any rational man should) so I was kind of waiting for you to compare and contrast the two. Great info as always, and I hope you and Benny are doing great!

[@petehendry4756]

Your model 70 is a beautiful looking rifle .👍

[@robertbrandywine]

My memory of the .270 Win factory velocities is somewhat different from what you stated. Yes, it started out as a 130 grain at 3130, or 3150, or 3160 fps (sources disagree) and Jack O'Connor's loads may even have exceed this. But manufacturers realized that they were overdoing things a bit and the velocity was eventually dropped to 2990 fps and stayed that way for many decades. In the 1990s, Federal's Superformance line lead a new endeavor into higher velocities and boutique manufacturers followed. Eventually the big manufacturers raised the velocity to 3060 fps and that's where it sits now. With new powders it is possible to exceed 3200 fps, at least in my rifle.

[@johndeboyace7943]

I remember when all you needed was a .22, 12ga., and a 30-06 to ready for anything.

[@michaelmills7006]

I figure we still are😂

[@brentgarbett5306]

You are correct

[@richardstone5241]

My guns of choice that make sense to have are: .22LR, 12 gauge shotgun, .22-250 w/60 grain bullet, 25-06 w/100 grain bullet, .270 w/ 140 grain bullet and 30-06 w/180 grain bullet. These will easily take anything in North America and Alaska. There is a BIG difference between HUNTING and BENCH SHOOTING!!!

[@burkecunningham7137]

I was also very disappointed with the Hodgdon 2022 annual manual. Maybe us old guys aren't their target audience anymore. Lots of good info on their powders but no loads listed for the 7x57,8x57, 7.5x54 MAS, 7.5 Swiss or my 35 Whelen. I know it's all available on line but this was the first manual I have purchased in years and I was expecting the basic cartridges to be covered. Thank you for another great video. Wish you and your family the best. Off topic, my son recently moved to Weare, NH and I think of you every time I drive down that way.

[@denisleblanc4506]

As you mentioned, faster twist rates are required to stabilize longer bullets. Where I see another advantage with the 6.8 Western would be when loading copper alloy bullets. It will probably push a 150 grain one at the same velocity as a 130 grainer in a 270 Win. You would probably have the same penetration as the 175 factory load. I think that's the next load they should offer in the 6.8 Western. As you know, lead free bullets are significantly longer than cup and core and will probably eventually be required. This is where the 6.8 Western will have an advantage. That's if it hangs on long enough for them to support it better.

[@terrybritton1355]

I love all copper in my muzzleloader as they are devestating without risk of blowing up on impact causing lost injured game. The petals turn razor sharp hemorrhage creators just like a broadhead creating a quick ethical harvest. I am not sure how they act in high powered rifles but penetration will be there.

[@joefw2446]

Great history. Thanks!

[@arniegrammon6255]

Speaking of the Hodgdon 2022 reloading manual, they also don't have the parent cartridge of the 6.8 Western - the 270 WSM. In this part of the West., the 270 WSM is far from obsolete. There's a whole list of missing cartridges in addition to the .257 Roberts, including the .44 special. ??? They're coming out with new temp-sensitive, non-fouling powders, but leave handloaders hanging. ??? Someone was asleep at the wheel when Hodgdon printed this latest offering. Thanks GB, for yet another solid review.

[@gunsguitarsandgambling3614]

I like the way you think.

[@thanielsommers4500]

Love your videos, fun to watch very informative. One of these days I would like to find a 270 possibly with iron sights to put see through scope mounts on for close quick shots in the woods, last season I was sneaking through the woods in the rain to sit in my spot and had 5 deer run right to me all within 50 yds 4 does and a buck I had my scoped 300 win mag. Looked at them but wasn’t able to take a shot at any of them, lil too much gun for the thick cover I was hunting+ it’s public so you never know where other hunters are. 3030 and 35 Remington would be better in those areas occasionally I have 200 to 250 yd shots where a 270 would be nice. Also looking at the 360 Buckhammer and 400 legend since I do hunt straight walled only areas too. So many options out there fun to know there capabilities strengths and weaknesses hard to make one cartridge do everything, Videos like yours definitely help deciding