The 7 episode rule

[@johnsonjohnson9328]

While it’s coincidental that episode 7 in many series are great, it’s a nice way to talk about what “bottle episodes” are.

[@any.user.allowed.]

This vid kinda reminds me of that saying where they put like the best part of the song around 2/3 point. (Something that goes like that) I think that ep 7 being good is a spacial thing (writing this mid video)

[@otakunerd9883]

What a interesting way to pose it it’s not exactly the 7th episode but the approximate time for the writer to show what they got and hook the audience

[@OhmIsFutile]

6:20 "At times, it's a silly show." I think this qualifies for Pey's understatement of 2024...

[@BlancoPancho]

After reading Dan da Dan you find that the combat parts are the flair that keep most interesting in between nuggets of great emotional stories. Not all are as hard as this one. But I found myself crying in multiple of them. I’m happy the anime is doing so good, cause the manga so far has gripped me!

[@OhmIsFutile]

I'm actually kinda disappointed by the combat... it's a whole lot of anime nonsense. I actually appreciate the human relation aspect more. Them exploring japanese folklore, myths, and such in the form of turbogranny and how she was ultimately born of women being assaulted was great. Then episodes 8 & 9 dropped and I cringed pretty hard. I suppose I should have seen it coming given how the series starts...

[@zelusss]

​@@OhmIsFutile ... that crab was "born of women being assaulted", granny fuse with it to help. She is different being

[@Ryodraco]

At the risk of paraphrasing some of what you said, one thing that to me makes episode 7 feel like a very organic/natural direction for a Dandadan episode to take rather than too jarring a departure in tone; is that the initial episodes of the series firmly established that humans don't simply become yokai by chance or minor events, it takes something horrific, tragic, etc. So it makes sense that if we delve into such a yokai's origins, its going to have some heavy themes.

[@MirecU]

The interesting part about Dan da Dan is that although the anime is weird, crazy and silly, everything in it makes sense and is thought out...

[@AnnohaSF]

Episode 7 is also the first time Bojack Horseman really shows its hand. “Say Anything”. The first episode that ends on something distinctly emotionally sombre. The first one that didn’t just feel like “another adult animated comedy”.

[@owencmyk]

I haven't finished Arcane yet so I'm saving this in my Watch Later but I just wanna say how crazy it is that you uploaded this the same day that a friend of mine was telling me about how good Dandadan episode 7 is

[@abadyr_]

2:50 "This bittersweet but very wholesome story" Jace: 😬

[@radifire]

This is insane. I literally wrote this in my notepad last Monday under video ideas: “The rule of 7 or lucky number 7 - Arcane and dandadan’s eps 7 were great. …”

[@yyobananaboyy2514]

I just realized how much I want Pey to talk about Madoka Magica

[@Mr.ChaosPollensAllAround]

Me too

[@hayond656]

This is my first time on this channel, they haven't?

[@Amethyst_Topaz]

@@hayond656 they only relatively recently branched out from Frieren to talk about other anime

[@atomskthepirateking2776]

Cyberpunk episode 7 also marks the first time David takes over as leader of the crew. Great episode

[@ThieftheFlygon]

I've really liked your Freiren videos, since they resonated so well with what I loved about the show myself; so, when I saw you were doing a video on Dan Da Dan, I knew I *had* to watch the show. Thanks for unintentional awesome recommendation!

[@roopesaukkonen]

You keep hitting home runs with your videos and topics you cover.

[@Shahkz]

love the videos pey, keep it up.

[@ItzTyluh]

DANDADAN is also a romance/ slice of life the manga blends all this very well

[@123fakestreeeet]

Another great bottle episode example is episode 10 of season 4 of Doctor Who, midnight. A low budget thriller that is quite literally a few actors in a box.

[@WhiteChrysanthemum-l9g]

Thank you for sharing something so passionate and exquisitely beautiful! ❤

[@pedrodpadua]

We’re already past episode 10. What took so long Pey? I needed this video

[@maramagnus2587]

when you mentioned "stuck in an elevator and going through the 7 stages of grief" all i could think about is this scene from the show Babylon 5 where the characters Londo and G'Kar are stuck in an elevator and they essentially each go through the stages of grief, one of them in reverse. it's in Season 3 Episode 2 and it's fantastic. this episode is half bottle episode and great fun. if you haven't seen the show, i would highly recommend it, the writing is excellent.

[@Bushman06]

7 is a lucky number after all

[@dontaskwhyman]

I never thought about the Ep. 7 change of pace. I had to relook at one of the shows I watched in the past (Oshi No Ko) and definitely the Torrance House scandal (not describing it cuz spoilers) happened in Ep. 6 and Ep. 7. I think it might be that 6 episode rule. If a new TV show or in our case anime made it past the minimum episode count for an initial season then the writers can start to flex their creativity. Using what characters they have with the limited screen time they are allowed from the production.

[@sebastianordonez2252]

Episode 7 of jjk is Gojo vs Jogo. Yeah, that checks out

[@Croakin]

Bruh don't even get me started on episode 7 of Gurren Lagann

[@AtelaLafford]

i'm gonna have to go back and look into all my favorite series and see if a 7th episode stands out just like these ones

[@TheSpeep]

Dan da Dan manages to pull off that balance between the goofiest levels of shounen action comedy and incredibly deep emotional storytelling on a level that I dont think any show has managed since One Piece. Episode 7 was an absolute gutpunch in a way I did not expect from a show that up to that point had been this chaotic and honestly, goofy. It was incredibly well done, and honestly kinda nauseating to watch, but it made you want to keep going anyway. The last time I remember a show hurting me like this was probably Made in Abyss, which is also fantastic, but I find hard to rewatch specifically because of that one episode, and I expect Dan da Dan is gonna be very similar in that regard.

[@Carsyn-h8i]

JJK also has an incredible 7th episode

[@TinkersSword]

Just want to point out that arcane season 1 also breaks from structure on episode 7 That is the episode with a different opening and a focus on Ekko. so breaking the pattern on episode 7 is the pattern for arcane haha

[@jacobjorgensen729]

W video. Thanks Pey

[@krzychuj1795]

I hate it when I can't watch pey's videos, because I didn't watch Arcane s2 yet. It's already 4th video 😭😭

[@sooyster4033]

GO WATCH IT ITS SO GOOD

[@AtelaLafford]

do it do it do it

[@rrbcraftergames3361]

Dandadans ep 7 I think was a testament to the talent on this show, and how far they can go with visual storytelling. Cause I don’t think this backstory hits even close to as hard in the manga, in my opinion. Arcane ep 7 however, took an already well written story and somehow heightened it. Some of the things said in the show resonate with me so much and ep 7 had a lot of it. Not to mention how visually amazing it all was, it was an absolutely beautiful episode.

[@Toxiplas]

Is about aliens and ghosts, of course is gonna be weird

[@4546Bean]

Later on in the manga Dandadan gets REALLY sad. I cried while reading Vamola’s story

[@life-destiny1196]

dude spoilers

[@Kr3utzer]

What about evil eye's story? I cried a lot there

[@yuu-kun3461]

I find that Dandadan is overshadowing everything else; which you know is fair, the show is really good. But there are also Orb: On the Movements of the Earth, Ranma 1/2 and to a lesser extent Trillion Game.

[@ricoselkum]

On the other hand, I love your vidds dude.

[@Hubris21]

Episode seven of 'Violet Evergarden' was easily one of the better episodes, second best in my opinion. However, I wouldn't say it was unique in the context of the show, like you pointed out. Bonus: it's a pretty good standalone episode if you want to check out what makes 'Violet Evergarden' so damn good.

[@atomskthepirateking2776]

The Bear season 2 episode 6 is one of the best episodes of TV in general. Episode 7 was also an amazing followup

[@zazilia-g4j]

This video was great, and I hate to gloss over that. But man I was caught off guard by that random hnk insert, and yea ep7 is great there as well, i was just surprised I thought the fandom was on the smaller side of things

[@PeyTalksAnime]

Haha I actually haven't seen hnk but it's the editors favorite anime so it was a good thing to include

[@zazilia-g4j]

@ I’d recommend reading the manga as well, personally my favourite of all time definitely a must read

[@ObiwanNekody]

Thank you for sharing 😊

[@xenowrath]

I feel like Dandadan is incredibly silly at its core because it intends to dive into and explore yokai , which almost always have very tragic, very real backstories. So it builds the expectation that its going to be a light hearted, fun, and balanced Shonen/Shojo story, so it can occasionally explore very real and powerful stories through yokai lore. Its wacky so it has the license to be serious because you know the next episode we are going to go back to talking about missing testicles, and why its wrong for a young girl to base her initial love expectations and experience on her fathers collection of magazines and videos in his study.

[@ponenatas]

This reminds me of the ep. from SHY showing Storm / Pesha's relationship with her mom.

[@Alceste_]

Sick music throughout Dandadan's ep. 7 segment.

[@Alceste_]

Also what is it?

[@matthew77546]

@@Alceste_crimson blues-megan wofford

[@Alceste_]

@@matthew77546 Thank you very much!

[@IntuitiveIntruding]

4:45 Gokurakugai has so much potential if only the chapters could come out faster 😅

[@samuraibarvidessays]

Where do you get your background music?

[@byron6272]

4:45 Gokurakugai mentioned

[@nerdbox2026]

What's the song that starts to play at 6:32 ?

[@matthew77546]

Crimson blues-Megan wofford. If you have an iPhone you can Shazam what is playing on your screen. That’s how I found the song

[@ArtWonder3]

In prais of episodes 7

[@reginameyers]

Dandadan ep 7 had me in destroyed lmao

[@bijanthegamer260]

Pls talk about hyouka pey

[@cyberspacecat]

I hope you watch and talk about Made in Abyss one day ... for no particular reason

[@10MLaw]

A very good discussion on the bottle episode concept… However there were many glaring issues in the arcane bottle episode. One of many is the subversion of the stakes and characters in season 1. As much as it is writer “freedom” it should still keep the tone of the overall story Zuko didn’t become good in one episode, but we did see his perspective. Arcane wastes this episode and the impact it could have brought.

[@kylepetersen6520]

Idk if you read the manga or not but I think each season from here on our will have at least one episode like this

[@Iyeetkids]

Great video as always. Could you please cover why Tokyo revengers “fell off” ?

[@zev_nx]

Well the thing is 7 is the best number out there thats just facts. And I'm definitely not biased by the fact that 7 is also my name 👺

[@amiserablelittlepileofsecr856]

Does it count for chapter 7? Because ironically enough, One Piece's first acr ends in chapter 7 of the manga

[@weaponx3373]

03:48 you should check out Modern Family: Season 6, Episode 16 . this is really unique episode. I have never seen in any series. it so good and unique.

[@YogirajUchale]

Haunting of hill house 7th episode

[@awesomepie2777]

it's always the sixth or the seventh, that's what I'm saying!

[@taniania5415]

also violet evergarden's episode 7 too!

[@cobyedwards2693]

i cant watch this. avoiding all arcane media till i have more time to watch it

[@jonathans.8537]

Ekko is just HIM

[@CorvoAttano369]

Hey Pey, I greatly appreciate the Spoiler warning, but could you please in future episodes add a timestamp to skip to to continue watching please? I skipped to 9:33 that worked out fine.

[@ricoselkum]

69 episode rule. Gara Vs rock Lee. I'vestop watching naruto because they did nirty to rock lee.

[@RuneKatashima]

Too soon for Arcane spoilers my man.

[@mrJety89]

You're thinking too mouch. Good shows always were made, and hopefully, will be made.They always managed to shock you, surprise you or blow your mind in many-many creative ways. "NOW" is not particularly special in that regard. Some things may have went downhill, but clever people will always find a way.

[@blshouse]

He is saying the opposite of what you seem to believe he said.

[@mrJety89]

@@blshouse Haha I'm not even sure what I said. I believe you, but I have No ideo what you mean. Please be more specific. What do you mean?

[@Akita44]

I‘ve been really enjoying the show so far but if they don’t change the fanservice I think I might actually drop Dandadan

[@AigisVibes720]

What do you mean by “change the fanservice”? I swear, showing just a bit of fanservice and people automatically lose their shit. It’s really not that deep.

[@BlackhaloZ]

I did not make it past episode 1 of Archane. It was insanely boring. It lost everything cool from season one.

[@hariman7727]

Episode 5. That's when the awesome dropped in a lot of older series. Heck, I started Outlaw Star and Cowboy Bebop on episode 5 for both series, and those are better than the prior episodes. It's not just Episode 7. EDIT: >.> Arcane Season 2 has a rather... dubious level of quality.

[@Anas-oo4ro]

Ive seen everyone praising ep 7 of dandadan a lot ( and the whole show but ep 7 especially) but i probably won't watch it not because i think it's bad it quite the opposite but its extreme amounts of fanservice put me off This thing happened many times and i hate it , when an amazing series has this fanservice element that make me not enjoy it ( mushoku tensei, monogatari and many more) i really like the premise, they are exactly the kind of show ill enjoy but i can't watch it and enjoy it. Lastly i really like emotional stories so is ep 7 watchable alone without context or not?

[@Thegoldenringsyt]

It really is, you don't need context to be honest, although the ending of episode 6 helps give context.

[@Anas-oo4ro]

@Thegoldenringsyt so I watch the last couple minutes of ep 6 then ep 7 This episode doesn't have much fanservice right?

[@Thegoldenringsyt]

Dandadan is an amazing show though, I highly recommend you give it a chance. Honestly, the fan service isn't that bad. Sure, the premise of Okarun losing his reproductive organs is slightly... Kinky, and bizarre, but it doesn't come off in a way that feels like they wanted you to feel attracted to the character and it didn't feel very perverted. The rest of the episodes are more normal than the first few in that aspect, and they go on to use nudity and other slightly taboo themes to enhance the humor. Honestly, if you watch Dandadan and get used to its vibe, you'll feel it's much less fanservicey that something like MHA/BNHA, because in those shows the fanservice goes AGAINST the story. In Dandadan, the elements that would feel weird in another show work FOR the story, therefore don't worsen your viewing experience. If you have seen clips of Dandadan out of context, you might feel like the show is extremely perverted, but when you watch it in context you start realizing it's an action packed romcom about a girl and a boy in a world full of aliens and ghosts.

[@Thegoldenringsyt]

@@Anas-oo4ro no, episode 7 has no fanservice at all. Episode 6 from what I remember has a minimum amount as well.

[@Anas-oo4ro]

@@Thegoldenringsyt if that is the case then I might give it a go Either way I will watch ep 7 but I will try from the beginning first then see if I like it or not Thanks BTW

[@Slimshimmydim]

False it was good episode 2

[@Masked_The_Man]

I am the 7th comment

[@johnfsenpai]

Episode 7 of Arcane season 2 was nice but was wasted for me by the worst song Stromae has ever sung

[@impossiblefix1134]

Its just really hard for me to enjoy dandadan after what they did in ep1

[@AigisVibes720]

It’s really not that serious and there’s no more of SA. I think you should give it a chance.

[@sooyster4033]

When I saw the Nina episode in FMA I stopped watching.

[@JavanAnime]

first!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@JavanAnime]

I win

[@karlumbus]

This is not an accusation rather a genuine question: Also SPOILER ALERT and trigger warning! How can you continue watching a show that has so explicit (almost) rape scenes with underage characters. I'm referring to the first episode where the female lead is exposed down to her underwear and shown so direct, in that body position and in a so heavely sexualized way. That is just unnecessary especially because she is underage. And then later basically the same thing with the male lead, when they're trapped in the high school. Where he is completely naked and again about to be raped. At that point that is no longer telling a story about something horrible, because it is way too explicit and seems more like a sexual fantasy. These experiences of the characters are also not really discussed and processed in the story itself, which further seems weird to me. They could have just adjusted the camera angles and made earlier cuts to not show these underaged characters that exposed, which for me would have solved the issue to a large degree. I also think the characters and their interactions are brilliantly written, but I just can't ignore these two really uncomfortable scenes, which make me worried that the writers and production team play down rape (again with underaged leads...).

[@smcdonough1427]

The show was great from episode 1, loser

[@GiulianoVenturo]

I hate to be that guy but I swear that i just didn't enjoy any ep from s2. At first I was like yeah there's no way I'm the only one who thinks they really mess up s2 right? well I think I'm the only one xD all I hear is ppl loving it but for me it just didn't hit like s1. In s1 each ep I felt like damn I wanna know that happens next but for s2 all eps I was bruh wtf is going on? xD

[@Ariel4277gsc]

Professional hater

[@GiulianoVenturo]

@@Ariel4277gsc thanks ig? XD

[@sentryion3106]

Maybe I’m have seen too many goofy anime just shoehorning sad backstory to “bait” sad feeling from the viewers (looking at you demon slayer), so I just don’t like the incredibly drastic change in tone from Dan Da dan. Like I saw the “bad” character sad story becoming a recurrent theme the moment we know turbo baba’s backstory.

[@Canal-01b]

Yeah I had the same issue. The moment the whole sequence started I just had the ''uuugh for fucks sake'' reaction and couldn't care less about soon to be dead spirit's backstory. Just 10 minutes ( or however long it was) of why am I seeing this.

[@PequenoSegundaEtapa]

Well I think there are two sides to this. Demon Slayer's issue is that they're not only irrelevant to the overall plot, but also irrelevant to our characters. Tanjiro can only reinforce his main plot driving circumstance so many times, and they do nothing to help with other character's growth. Dandadan uses these to highlight the main characters and reframe their own conflict (to our characters). There would be no reason for Momo to want to work with Turbo Baba if she didn't have that context, for instance. The others have their own point, but I can't go into detail without spoiling. It's just less about "I should care about this spirit" and more about letting our characters use the context to grow.

[@siamath9954]

​@@PequenoSegundaEtapaThe backstories in Demon Slayer are maybe irrelevant to the plot, but they are integral to the story. All of them show different aspects of what violence and suffering do to people. Those that rise above it, and those that are consumed by it. But also those that actively choose to do evil. Each of the backstories are sad, yeah, but each in a different way and each with different results. They each speak to theme of the story in their own ways.

[@PequenoSegundaEtapa]

@@siamath9954 The problem is that they all revolve around the same idea and yield the same result. We're not going into a new backstory to enforce a different lesson or explore an entirely different theme, we're just retreading the exact premise you're talking about. There's very little in Demon Slayer that plays with the status quo instead of just maintaining exactly what's expected. I agree *slightly* that Silky's backstory (in relation to Silky, not Aira) would be the most similar to something like Demon Slayer's, but the rest of them play with the idea in ways that actually make them engaging. Characters actually feel like they lived their own lives up to that point instead of just being a story in service of the themes. I really can't say much else without spoiling, though.

[@siamath9954]

@@PequenoSegundaEtapa But that's the thing they ARE all different. They're not all "oh sad backstory", each one getting into a different aspect of the theme. When it comes to the Hashira it's mostly about how they deal with the massive trauma they have suffered (each informing their character in a different way) while with the demons it's about how it relates to the theme of innocence vs guilt. I'm on my phone rn, so I'm not gonna spell them all out, but each demon backstory we get highlights a different aspect of that

[@Banana-senpai]

Title is shit. I like your vids but this is pretentious af: why the 7th? it's the start of the second arc or the point of plot unraveling; 12 episodes divided in two halves of six, the second set starts on the 7th. This isn't a new thing either, this has happened forever in anime. If the show has closer to 24 episodes, the midpoint start on the 13th. There, 12 minute vid abridged on 77 words.