The 9 Elder Dragons in House of the Dragon

[@benjamincollins95]

GRRM confirmed in his blog that Tessarion and Daeron weren’t cut and that they just couldn’t fit him and Tessarion in season 1. So he was written off as being fostered in old town for the first season. He should make an appearance in further seasons

[@TheV8Pumpkin]

Both tessarion and Daeron play important roles in the dance id hope not :p

[@dromankass8655]

Perhaps Daeron is being fostered down in Old Town and away from count at King's Landing because he doesn't look like King Viserys and doesn't have the same hair colour as his brothers and sister. The Hightowers might have felt it prudent to keep him away so that no one at court picked up on the fact the Queen Alicent also might have been 'playing away'. Given that young Daeron was a brave and decent man, this would be in keeping with GRRMs theme of some people of the highest noble blood are totally unsuited to rule, while illegitimate offspring are a better choice.

[@benjamincollins95]

@@dromankass8655 Daeron was the youngest son, and had all targaryen features. None of Alicents children with Viserys were bastards. Him being fostered at oldtown was just a plot point to illustrate why he’s not in the show

[@dr0g_Oakblood]

@@dromankass8655 Book Daeron is explicitly described as having as much Valyrian coloring as his siblings, and he rides a dragon same as any Targaryen, so it would be kinda hard for him to be a bastard of anyone other than Daemon, and it would be difficult to tell the difference between a child fathered by Viserys vs Daemon lol.

[@thalmoragent9344]

@@dr0g_Oakblood Yeah, and it's not in Alicent's character (or Daemon's at all, tbh)

[@20_foot_burmese_pyth0n]

Viserys' and Daemon's family is insane. The older brother was the last rider of Balerion the black dread, greatest of all Targaryen dragons and the younger rides the Blood Wyrm. Their mother rode Meleys and their father rode Vhagar, queen of all dragons.

[@Swedishmafia101MemeCorporation]

Ah yes, "Sheepstealer". The most dreaded and fearsome dragon in all of Wales. 🙃

[@dromankass8655]

Nettles was mocked when she claimed Sheepstealer on account of the dragon's brown colour. But be it Black, Red or Brown, a dragon is still a dragon.

[@charlieswanney8610]

How was she mocked?

[@thalmoragent9344]

@@dromankass8655 Facts. Like, why was she mocked?

[@buzzkill36]

​@@dromankass8655Sheepstealer was a pretty big dragon...Why was she mocked?

[@Qbgarden]

@@buzzkill36 Because it's mud-colored, wings full of holes. The least esthetically pleasing dragon. Looks the least cool and even it's name leaves something to be desired. Compared to every other dragon anyway.

[@andiestrellitam3]

Vermithor was said to be the second largest and second most powerful by the time of the dance after Vhagar, because he roamed free for years and was also since young a really big and powerful dragon.

[@thalmoragent9344]

Well, he was an egg placed in Jaehaerys' cradle as a baby so, after that bond we have a Dragon who's lived very long. He's the 2nd oldest Dragon after all, so that's why he's so big.

[@rsync9490]

@@thalmoragent9344 Dreamfyre is older, but her growth was stunted being in the dragon pit. If she wasn't in the dragon pit so long she might have been able to avoid being crushed by the dome alongside her attackers.

[@kronaeon3377]

@@rsync9490 maybe, but some dragons just grow faster. And vermithor was pretty big by the time he took the throne

[@aengusog3415]

@@kronaeon3377yeah meraxes was younger than vhagar and she was bigger

[@kronaeon3377]

@@aengusog3415 Yup. along with that. Syrax and Sunfyre are said to be of comparable size with Syrax jus being fatter. Despite a massive difference in their hatch dates and Syrax moving out of the pit for a while. they simply grow at different speeds.

[@Warlord-vo4cd]

I honestly just want to see more for their unique designs since they've done an amazing job so far

[@burtan2000]

Their design work is great as always. However, i was dissatisfied and disappointed with the CGI at times. It improved as time went on, further supporting my theory that the management is at fault and not the talented digital artists that major studios treat like slaves. They simply did not give them enough time. And that is such a pity. Yeah, GoT dragons were essentially one design with different coloring and two size at a time. But I believe they caught some wild dragons and filmed them bc Gawd Dang they looked real. Every fricken shot, every movement... just perfect. HoTD showed much of that too but far less polished. With so many dragons, it makes sense they would need a lot more time. And that is something the studio execs just don't provide. I've heard too many horror stories about how they treat the CG companies that are subcontracted to produce the digital SFX. It's not right. They should be striking along side the actors and writers.

[@JakesSake]

Vermithor is bigger than dreafryer even though he is a little younger. The wild element of not being caged.

[@Q-Rex]

Dragons enter their prime when they are close to 100 years old. If I was a Targaryen I would pick Vermithor without hesitation. He was my favorite in the book Fire and Blood and his appearance at the end of HOTD was Badass.

[@mercuriology45]

kinda sad because we may not see Dreamfyre, its very hinted that blood and cheese happens early in season 2. Helaena didnt ride her dragon that much according to the books after that incident. So we may not see dreamfyre again, until the storming of the dragon pit.

[@shippendales8543]

They could open the season with Helaena riding the dragon at the beginning of the season perhaps to parallel her eventually stopping after falling into a great depression

[@Hubert99999]

@@shippendales8543 thats a good idea. Maybe not even riding but just bonding, to drive home the motherly image they have in common, to maximize the impact of the incoming tragedy

[@xBenwa]

I was to the understanding that Daemom was seeing if Vermithor was receptive to Humans still

[@AyushGupta-yl4sc]

DREAMFYRE THE REAL MOTHER OF DRAGONS 🐲.

[@augustinefaithdefender]

but helaena is useless lol

[@AyushGupta-yl4sc]

@@augustinefaithdefender Helaena is not only rider of dreamfyre and she is not a warrior.

[@buzzkill36]

All Targaryen dragons trace their blood from Vhagar... She's the real mother of all dragons

[@lightning8820]

Helaena is bonded to Dreamfyre and also a rider but she is not a fighter 😊

[@roquefernandes1612]

Waiting for ur upcoming videos , u r great at this, Thank you Appreciate it 🙌

[@FallOutJosie]

referring to dragons as "midsize sedans" is what i'm using now

[@ThoorDark]

Great video just need to point out that Vermithor and Silverwing are older then Dreamfyre. Rhaena bonded with a hatchling DF when she was 9 yo, so approximately 4-5 years after both Vermithor and Silverwing hatched. They hatch and bonded with their riders in cribs, as the still dragonless Rhaena gave eggs to them as newborns.

[@edwinsoto6932]

You failed to account for the age gap. Rhaena (born in 23 AC) was 11 when Jaehaerys I was born (34 AC).

[@iangallagher5448]

That’s not true, Rhaena was 11 when Jaehearys’s was born while she was 12 when Alysanne was born. Rhaena rode Dreamfyre when she was 12. This means that Dreamfyre hatched in 31-32 AC 3 years before Jaehearys was born. Both Silverwing and Vermithor were eggs when they were placed in their riders cradle meaning they hatched after Dreamfyre

[@zeuskhan91]

I always wondered how the battle of Rooks Rest would/could have differed if Caraxes had intercepted and aided Meyles

[@timmyb7734]

Sheepstealer is the only one that might still be around when Dany hatches her dragons.

[@thalmoragent9344]

Potentially, yeah 🤔 where would she be though, seems like such a large Dragon would attract some attention, especially since Dany's Dragons are said to have had magic pop back into the world at large

[@shippendales8543]

@@thalmoragent9344 I hear you but maybe Sheepstealer is somewhere in the summer isles or even an unexplored part of Westeros. Nettles was rumored to be a witch so she might be like Missandei and still alive somewhere out there too, girl legit just disappeared from the history books with her dragons. The writers can figure out an explanation if they want too.

[@pyrnicious1847]

The cannibal might still be alive aswell

[@miloslavmasar]

Didn't the Dragonkeepers persuade Alyssa to bond with Meleys instead of Balerion because of what happened with Balerion and Aerea? Balerion took Aerea to Valyria and when they returned Aerea brutally died and Balerion suffered injuries so the Dragonkeepers feared the same would happen to Alyssa as Balerion seemed to defy his rider's will

[@kecleonboi]

Something about Seasmoke!😍 it’s my fave

[@alejandrogiha7583]

I wish they somehow include the canibal. All fans want to see it. Also, why did damon think he could tame Vermithor? they know is one dragon per person.

[@rexxdarealest1]

I would want Vermithor as my Dragon. Besides Balerion’s “The Black Dread”, “The Bronze Fury” is the coolest nickname. Caraxes would be a close second tho.

[@jithinraj1830]

Syrax is the most beautiful dragon while flying.......

[@jacksonblack6205]

“Mid-size sedans” 😂😂

[@JoshuaHenelyThornhill]

I don't know which one i should be more scared : Vermithor, Caraxes, Meleys or freaking Sheepstealer

[@Hubert99999]

Everything about “the Cannibal,” from his name to his story, just screams “stay away from this fucker!”

[@whoreofdragonstone1031]

everyone thinks cannibal is as big as balerion or vhaghar for some reason when he’s likely not even as big as Vermithor lol

[@joasbenjamin6804]

Not true at all of the rumors are true

[@skyflores9827]

They are aren’t true, show me anywhere is GRRM work to where it explicitly says he’s bigger than balerion.

[@joasbenjamin6804]

@@skyflores9827 did you read the book ? Cause on the book it did say that the people on Dragonstone said that he was there before the Targaryen arrived on Westeros

[@jeffreym8503]

@@joasbenjamin6804 it never said that cannibal was "bigger" and that's the point!!!.. also it was never confirmed that he was there before the targaryens it says that some of the small folk think that he was there before the targaryens but the idea was then quickly dismissed by the maesters only thing that we know for sure is that vhagar is the biggest dragon alive during the dance and that vermithor is the second biggest and cannibal is the largest of the wild dragons that's it!!... anything other than that is speculation and or fanfiction

[@maddawg9636]

@@jeffreym8503 Maesters disagreed but didn't manage to prove it. The same way Maester says Cannibal was not the dragon at Sea Snakes funeral. Canibal was made to be a mystery, a living legend, he is made to represent the dance of the dragons, his colors match both factions and his cannibalistic tendencies represent civil war. But if we want to go into detail, IT IS HIGHLY UNLIKELY that Cannibal is smaller/younger than Vermithor for simple reason that Sheepstealer was only 5-10 years younger than Vermithor, it would be a lazy writing to have a dragon that was rumored (not confirmed) to be as old if not older than Balerion be just few years older than Sheepstealer. Besides that, it would strongly contradict the small folks saying because if they were wrong then that'd mean they were wrong for 150 years (thats several generations), and Cannibal didn't just pop out of the ground one day as a grown ass dragon.

[@darkstorm08]

Not mid sized sedans!!!!!!! Ahhh JUST TOOK MY WHOLE Reaction🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@nasjonraynor1083]

They said they were saving budget budget for Syrax so they just reused episode 2 scene. Also in the 10 or so years Laenor could have died off screen which would still kind of be canon

[@strongsuccessfulweeb1400]

I wonder what would change if one of the Dragonseeds tamed the Cannibal or if Alyn of Hull was able to tame Sheepstealer.

[@chair2945]

4:05 this fanart had me weak. Gosh.

[@wafflingmean4477]

While I know the show isn't canon, given we know there's been input from GRRM and Meleys is significantly bigger than Caraxes (or at least bulkier), I think it's safe to say Meleys is the elder of those two. Plus, Caraxes' egg was placed in the cradle of Prince Aemon, whereas Meleys was claimed by Alyssa when she was 15. Not many dragons were being hatched in this time period, given the few of his children Jaehaerys even allowed to ride dragons seemed to prefer to claim already hatched dragons that had previous riders (Vhagar for Baelon, and Alyssa originally wanted Balerion). So I think it's likely Meleys has a few years on Caraxes, hence why there was no egg hatched in Alyssa's cradle, but despite this lull in hatchlings there was one ready to go. Most likely, Meleys was placed in the cradle of Jaehaerys firstborn son Aegon, who died three days after being born. Given Aemon was effectively the firstborn due to Aegon's early death, it's likely being the firstborn son is why Jaehaerys chose to hatch a dragon from Aemon's cradle, so the same logic would apply to his Aegon. Therefore Meleys is 3 years older than Caraxes, being hatched in 52 AC while Caraxes was hatched in 53 AC.

[@lillypharaoh5945]

Silverwing also refused alyssane's orders when crossing the wall even though she was very young.

[@erikaheck8261]

God, I love Seasmoke

[@stomper2888]

and Seasmoke loves you

[@gaius5901]

Syrax in the thumbnail but he literally looks smaller in episode 10 than the pilot

[@jay_ooh]

I think that battle had a lot to do with Luc's experience in battle as a Dragon Rider. Not that little dragons. Can't farewell in battle because I'm sure they can. It's all about the rider honestly

[@AgapitoHampaslupa12]

It's not just about the rider. Size matters too. Arrax is the size of vhagar's foot. Vhagar could fart and it would probably kill arrax. Lol

[@KS-xk2so]

It's not like Aemond had much experience either. Size isn't the only factor, but it is a major one. Arrax was never going to win that fight, too tiny compared to the monstrous Vhagar. Now if a decently sized dragon went up against Vhagar, who was either way faster or more vicious, sure they could hang.... in fact we know that's the truth.

[@Adsper2000]

@@KS-xk2so I don’t think there’s a single time in the entire series where a smaller dragon has killed a larger dragon without also getting itself killed.

[@KS-xk2so]

@@Adsper2000 That's true, though if you wanted to declare a winner in the Vhagar/Caraxes fight, I'd say it was the Blood Wyrm. He was at least able to drag himself out of the Gods Eye and died shortly after the fight.

[@Adsper2000]

@@KS-xk2so Doesn’t really matter who wins if both of you die anyway. There was no scenario where Caraxes could have survived that fight one-on-one.

[@s.n2500]

I like how he this ytber doesn’t use information given in the books to not spoil the show

[@TheMightyDevilLuis]

Caraxes is by far the best dragon in my opinion. Cool as hell.

[@taylorreynolds3176]

I agree , it’s the distinctive look 👀

[@TonyMaine915]

But very skinny. Not a strong dragon.

[@charlieswanney8610]

@@TonyMaine915 I keep seeing people talk about how his physique is a perfect dragon because of his long neck and it’s reach but they ignore how his long neck literally makes him so vulnerable because they unconditionally obsess over daemon and caraxes

[@jackgould5332]

@@TonyMaine915 you are completely wrong he's one of the strongest and most ferocious dragon in the show

[@gaybriale9519]

@@charlieswanney8610 while the obsession over daemon and caraxes is true, it's understandable. I think caraxes’s neck gives him an advantage. He can maneuver where he breathes fire more efficiently than other dragons. He can move his neck out of the range of dragon's jaw and breathe fire from another angle. Maybe not if the dragon is as fast as Meley’s, but luckily Rhaenys if fighting for the blacks.

[@thalmoragent9344]

*Vhagar, Vermithor and Caraxes* are the top 3 around, and they've all fought alongside each other before in battle. The Dance is not only tragic between the Valyrian humans in the conflict, but the Valyrian Beasts as well.

[@josephlongbone4255]

Mild spoilers I guess... I dislike that you discount Sunfyre, as he takes out three other dragons in this war and debatably sees the most combat.

[@DailyGameFactory]

Could you maybe edit this to include a spoiler tag? I'm trying to avoid as much knowledge about what's to come as possible so a heads up could be nice

[@josephlongbone4255]

@@DailyGameFactory Don't worry chief, he gets killed by Robert Baratheon and is secretly Darth Vader's father.

[@jeffreym8503]

He only takes out two actually one was the size of a warhorse and the other way a shy dragon that avoided people the other dragon was technically taken down by vhagar and not Sunfire who was almost killed before vhagar intervened

[@nathanj3528]

@@jeffreym8503 the situations makes sunfyre's victories amazing 1) against melys sure he didn't take her down, but got heavily deformed and burnt in the process 2) It was never told that Grey ghost was shy and even if he was, Grey ghost was an older dragon, far bigger than the young, burnt and deformed Sunfyre. He still took him down with those disadvantages and again was broken and burnt even more. 3) Against Moondancer the text talks about the size difference true BUT it also talks about how Sunfyre could barely even fly and fight while moondancer was agile and nimble and could get around Sunfyre and tear it apart. She still died got beaten and killed These reasons is why Sunfyre is always talked about whenever ranking powerful dragons

[@jeffreym8503]

@@nathanj3528 hey you can choose to spin it however you like and if that works for you fine but a few things about your comments 1st it most definitely does say that grey ghost was a shy dragon that avoided humans on more than one occasion next the fight with moondancer is not an impressive feat for sunfire it's more of a testament to baela and moondancer tenacity sunfire should have won that fight and no point did anybody think sunfire would lose even with a damaged wing

[@SeanBainbridge-ky1mw]

Would be interesting to see Drogons mother Dragon and see what Colour she is as I think she's a Purple colour 🤔

[@fjalar4856]

5:32 Arrax: Am I a joke to you?

[@lemoon01]

Hopefully they change Rhaena’s dragon to Vermithor instead

[@lucernevaluation4187]

People were saying vermithor is 2nd oldest dragon but this vidoe claims dreamfyre is older

[@edwinsoto6932]

Dreamfyre is the second oldest (belonging to Jaehaerys's older sister), while Vermithor (Jaehaerys's mount) is the second biggest, which is probably related to the misconception some have about the latter's age.

[@realdaggerman105]

Spitting mad shit at Sunfyre despite him being the unironic MVP for the Green side. Vhagar is scary, but Sunfyre doesn’t have the advantage of being the largest known organism on the planet. And he still wrecks shop!

[@jakobfountain5635]

I want Balerion

[@ea.fitz216]

2:03 Vhagar is a girlboss!!

[@Whitehotforever1_]

I would love to see dreamfrye and for her to look just like Daenerys dragons

[@SeanBainbridge-ky1mw]

Vermathor is a big dragon on dragonstone but riderless at mo

[@SHARKVADERS]

WC!!!!!

[@theSavageHippie]

The bots in these comments are fierce as dragonfire

[@swinneythepooh2815]

Vermithor and cannibal are gonna be the tits!!

[@fishhhh8990]

Dreamfyre isn't really a large dragon even before the dragon pit she was relatively small that vermithor and silverwing out grown her

[@iangallagher5448]

That’s not true it was said that she grew bigger as the days went by

[@TrollfaceDarkBruhLmao]

So eld :)

[@AaronGuest]

Hol up how exactly can you discount Sunfyre, and say that Aegon was an incompetent rider when. Spoiler: Sunfyre helped kill Meleys, and killed the larger Grey Ghost on his own, found Aegon when he needed him even though they were separated miles away and with him being badly injured, and kill Moondancer with Aegon even though he was still seriously injured. Saying that is nothing more then clown talk.

[@iangallagher5448]

Grey Ghost size is never mentioned

[@jay-t1030]

Would have been more bada$$ if Aemond claimed the Cannibal instead of Vhagar in my opinion.

[@joshuagcwong734]

Vhagar is only the largest most ferocious kaiju living, yes, unimpressive...

[@dromankass8655]

But at least Vhagar had been ridder several times in her long life, and recently when Aemond claimed her. The Cannibal has never been ridden by anyone in all the years he laired on Dragonstone. 'Men who went seeking the Cannibal to ride ended up in the Cannibal's belly'.

[@whoreofdragonstone1031]

cannibal is feral, he wouldn’t have been claimed

[@AgapitoHampaslupa12]

Cannibal is overrated

[@jackgould5332]

Cannibal isn't even relevent to the story, pluse his size is never specified, balerion was the largest, in hotd vhegar is and vermithore is the second largest

[@melanoidmarkus]

👍🏾

[@pl4423]

You wrong coz Daenerys bonded with 3 dragons and the series will show that she was not the 1st and that perhaps Daemon was the 1st or it was common in valleria

[@terryforsdyke306]

She was the mother to all 3 and bonded with all 3 as a mother would with her children, the dragons all wanted to look after their mother, but how many dragons did Daenerys ride? I'm pretty sure the video was talking about the dragon rider bond, Yes after the rider dies the dragon can take another rider, after the dragon dies the rider can take another dragon, but the dragon will not accept another rider while the current rider lives, and will not bond with someone who is currently the rider of another dragon.

[@pl4423]

@@terryforsdyke306 Exactly...Daemon ciuld also bond with Vermithor and ha e his alleagiance on who will ride him bit will keep riding Caraxes...just as Daenerys allowed John snow to ride 1 of his dragons🤷‍♂️

[@marylouknipe1290]

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[@stomper2888]

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