The 90's Election That Could Have Changed Everything (And If It Happened)

[@JREG]

Very disappointed to hear people didn't just starting hating the establishment starting at my generation

[@MonsieurDean]

Yo bro. What is good in your hood?

[@youtubewatcher3511]

But Jreg your from Canada

[@kalipsicao790]

@@youtubewatcher3511 him being from Canada doesn’t exclude him from hating the establishment in Canada, god some of you Americans are so god dame closed minded (countries all around the world have problems with the establishment)

[@youtubewatcher3511]

@@kalipsicao790 it wasn’t really meant to be taken seriously

[@squabbbb]

@@youtubewatcher3511 dude it was a post-ironic meta comment duh

[@ceek6134]

“Do you think people just started to hate the 2 party system”

[@cgt3704]

As a European i always ask myself : "Why does USA have a two-party system ?" Its ridiculous

[@rockergamer109]

@@cgt3704 as an argentinian I can answer that, you don't get a two-party system, the two-party system gets you

[@CapyMartinBara]

@@rockergamer109 mierda que sentí eso

[@gokbay3057]

@@cgt3704 first past the post elections, that's why. UK is also basically a two-party system for the same reason. (yes other parties do enter parliament but only Tories and Labour matter (before WW1 it was Liberals in the place of Labour))

[@frisianwarrior2295]

@@cgt3704 Exactly, and they always idiotically say: 'We are the best country in the world because we are a democracy'. XD Europe has way better democracies.

[@RoverStorm]

Modern People: Screw the two party system! 90's People: Hey, we've been saying screw the two party system long before you! George Washington: Indeed, damn the *PARTY SYSTEM!!*

[@directcurrent5972]

LOL

[@zachstutzman4059]

Anarchists: Screw the whole system!

[@urielantoniobarcelosavenda780]

@@zachstutzman4059ana-monkerist: screw

[@DockingFreidmanRecords]

Your right washington hated the party system

[@315lucienthesky]

if i was president i would unironically ban political parties

[@arizonashane]

People forget that Perot was actually ahead in the polls until he dropped out of the race (and then came back in). If he had never done that, he might have won.

[@jameslapp554]

I'm pretty doubtful of that. To win he would need a majority in the electoral college. In a 3 person race and as a third party candidate, he would have gotten a plurality at best. That means the house (run by the 2 parties we all "love") would pick the president. Its unfortunate, but he never stood a chance.

[@jasonkiefer1894]

Hard to say. He was taking up a lot of oxygen. Bill Clinton was a nobody bystander. It was a lot of Perot hating Bush. How would the Republicans have voted? Would it have allowed Clinton to sneak in the way Wilson snuck in because of the Roosevelt/Taft fight? But the timing of his dropout right when the Dems had their convention gave all that anti- Bush/establishment/Republican anger fully over to Clinton. The election was settled right then. Bush tried, but I think to much damage, with Bill getting a ton unstoppable momentum. Taft-Roosevelt gave us the racist regressive Wilson. Perot not welcomed into the Republican elites giving Slick Willy the White House. John Roberts self-importance, thinking he can keep the Supreme Court neutral (failing miserably repeatedly) calling Obamacare a "tax". Fragile ego John McCain upset Trump called him names and votes to uphold Obamacare in spite. Republicans sure know how to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

[@MasterShake9000]

Don’t forget his conspiracy theories about the CIA. Also, the SNL skits from that era do a good job of showing how he personally seemed really weird despite the popularity of his proposals.

[@krokuke]

@@jameslapp554 He was leading by 55% though.

[@Dratchev241]

@@jasonkiefer1894 Got to remember also no Perot in 92 then Bush wins 2nd term which changes history. while yes Ross took some votes away from the dems, he took way more away from the pubs costing the pubs the WH. Had Perot not dropped out (which killed any chance he had) Perot could have actually got it.

[@DISTurbedwaffle918]

Ross Perot: Ran on the points that Americans ACTUALLY CARE ABOUT, and lost because he was 3rd Party. I suddenly have more respect for my mother for voting for the guy.

[@Thor-Orion]

He didn’t lose. The republicrats have been fucking us for years.

[@coolq1084]

@@Thor-Orion that same goes for demoncrats right?

[@jamesk5541]

@@Thor-Orion Trump literally has ran on all the points Perot made immigration,China bad, NAFTA renegotiated, Tariffs on corporations taking jobs out of America. If you agree with what perot was saying then your blind and Trump literally is Perot .

[@brig2564]

@@jamesk5541 There is a difference, Perot isn't Trump and like it was said in the video, Trump wasn't like this when he first got in, the party changed him and he became more extremist, Perot could've done much more things different and he probably would've done things different from Trump. All that Trump did was watch and writen down Perot's points and then simply use them to his favor in the 2016 election, Trump wasn't Perot, both are different people, who got elected at different times, at different moments of America.

[@jamesk5541]

@@brig2564 perot wasn't elected and Trump wasn't extremist he was a realist and got the point out and did what other Republicans were scarred to do. Aswell as the party didn't change him but if your gonna run under the Republican ticket and support universal healthcare you gonna lose the nomination

[@iammrbeat]

Abraham Lincoln was basically a third party candidate.

[@mitchellrenton6044]

Really?

[@axelpatrickb.pingol3228]

@@mitchellrenton6044 Yes. Lincoln first entered into politics as a Whig until it died sometime in the 1850's. The 1860 Election had four candidates: him (Republican), Breckinbridge (Southern Democrat), Douglas (Northern Democrat), and John Bell (Constitutional Party)...

[@PeaceOfMind8190]

Wassup Mr Beat!

[@daniels7568]

Republicans had already replaced the Whigs in congress for a few years by that point though so not exactly a third party by 1860.

[@euivets2892]

Mr. Beat. Ye, the US wasn't a two party system back then.

[@EmperorTigerstar]

The Drake and Josh clip just made this video.

[@theparadigm8149]

Wow! 😧 I can’t believe I’m this early to a AlternateHistoryHub video, let alone early enough to see the emperor himself! 🙇‍♂️

[@PremierCCGuyMMXVI]

Yeet

[@kyokyodisaster4842]

Indeed.

[@daveholland6293]

Ew a neoliberal

[@stevenandersen6989]

But Cody, Ross Perot winning the election would be impossible due to the first past the post system, dragging votes from whatever party it had more ideals with, and let the opposition with different ideals to win a super majority

[@zamnodorszk7898]

I did not vote for Perot in 1992. Mostly because: - I am not American - I was three years old in 1992 - I was not a mother at the time

[@purest_evil]

Cool story bro

[@goose93]

Damn you're old

[@UGOISCOOLNOW]

@@purest_evilpretty sure she’s a girl since she said she wasn’t a mother at that time

[@purest_evil]

@@UGOISCOOLNOW call everyone bro + Ugo is trash

[@KingOfHarlots86]

😂😂 Yeah born in 86, I'm a father NOW,so I support this list👊🏿

[@remenir97]

Well, we wouldn’t have an Animaniacs Intro with Bill Clinton playing the Sax.

[@AztecJester93]

Love how Animaniacs is relevant again.

[@the_man_emperor_of_mankind]

All of reality stands on the shoulders of Animaniacs. We need to face that truth

[@namingisdifficult408]

@@the_man_emperor_of_mankind it always has

[@louisduarte8763]

I'd vote for The Brain to be president.

[@potatofive8711]

Which also means we shouldn’t have see him with the sax in this video’s thumbnail.

[@NicklasZandeVGCP2001]

To explain the Reform Party: 1. Ross Perot believed the two parties shifted too far apart under Kennedy and Reagan and thought the third option should come from the middle. 2. Pat Buchanan thought that the two parties became too similar under Bush and Clinton, and believed that the third option should come from the right. 3. Jesse Ventura agreed with Pat on the parties being too similar under Bush and Clinton, but he believed the third option should come from the left.

[@bullmoosemedia]

Too bad we couldn't have had some sort of Jesse Ventura/Ron Paul fusion campaign at some point after the year 2000. Jesse's time has come and gone, but I feel like the only way a third party/independent candidate could ever win has to have some status and stature.

[@michealmcneal2259]

@@bullmoosemedia that wouldn't work. Jesse Ventura would just choke the shit out of Ron Paul. Jesse was centrist leftist. Ron Paul is a libertarian republican....bout as far right as Goldwater. They agree on just about nothing.

[@842wolves]

The Reform Party really was like a jreg video then....

[@andrewlynch4126]

@@michealmcneal2259 they don’t like war

[@bullmoosemedia]

@@michealmcneal2259 That is not true. Both want to end the wars. Both want to end the drug war... There are a lot more similarities out there but I am tired.... True populists actually agree more than they disagree. It is just a shame the other half they disagree on is unacceptable...to the other side.

[@TheGCRust]

Perot put his money where his mouth was. I respect him for that.

[@Balderdash1000]

Perot had a lot of things going for him, but when he dropped out of the race at the height of his popularity, that was his death knell. The fact that he got 20% of the vote after showing everyone that he wasn't completely committed to the job is honestly a bit bad ass.

[@TheLazyEconomist]

The worst part is he turned out to be absolutely right about our future.

[@itsblitz4437]

He was definitely a better populist than a fake one.

[@wyvernlord23]

So do you respect Bloomberg the same way?

[@TheGCRust]

@@wyvernlord23 Kinda, I guess? Tbh, Michael Bloomberg was never much on my radar. But I remember Perot's infomercials.

[@yoboisteven1741]

Moral of the story: Donald Trump wanted Oprah Winfrey as his Vice President in 2000.

[@actuallyrealcover]

Trump was a Democrat back then, he would switch from red to blue several times back in those days.

[@actuallyrealcover]

@red leader's fav dude well if Trump was a Democrat yes he would be treated differently for sure, now the gop and dem hate him so much because they fear him

[@IQUnder30]

OPRAH CAN DO *ANYTHING!*

[@imapopo2924]

@Robert Ortiz-Wilson Oh absolutely. While the GOP is by no means one united front, they may as well be compared to the fractured mess that the Democratic party is nowadays. In the GOP, you could win over a few key people in the party and most will either follow or at most silently oppose you or just take a shot every now and then. In the Democratic party... They eat their own the moment you disagree. The Dems have no humanity left as far as Im concerned.

[@subpargamer1119]

@@actuallyrealcover Less he switched and more he stayed the same and the democrats actively moved so far to the left he became a republican

[@warlordofbritannia]

Friendly Reminder that 2020 is humanity’s punishment for not clapping

[@trillmixin6999]

please clap...

[@tornn8847]

Clap because all of this is probably the trailer

[@domenstrmsek5625]

Someone forgot that Trump can win 2000 election as candidate of reform

[@belgebelgravia100]

Clap for Jeb or he'll clap your cheeks

[@paul-ye3ut]

Clap for me you stupid bastards

[@abelardoplatas1549]

"He opposed the North American Free Trade Agreement" As a Mexican I kind of wish Perot actually won the US Presidency now.

[@belgebelgravia100]

It really seems like nobody benefited, in the US OR Mexico, from NAFTA except the rich billionaires

[@hidragon.3096]

@@belgebelgravia100 Welcome to America

[@carlosmontesinos1544]

@@belgebelgravia100 the fact that it was Bush that started the NAFTA but it was Clinton who had it going, after beating Bush, shows that it was more about interests from others than for the benefit of the many

[@SusRing]

Don't worry, Trump dissolved NAFTA.

[@thedripkingofangmar6778]

What are you on about? NAFTA benefitted both the US and Mexico greatly

[@DisapprovalWew]

Fun fact: my dad voted for Ross Perot. So that’s something

[@haloskaterkid]

One day my kid can proudly say “my dad voted for Kanye.” Here’s lookin at you, kid

[@tornn8847]

@@haloskaterkid I genuinely forgot he even ran for president. Kanye knew it all was a joke

[@KyleH2004]

Same

[@2027frfr]

@That Urge what

[@haloskaterkid]

@@tornn8847 and who could forget presidential candidate Deez Nuts 2016 who in my proud state of North Carolina received 9% of votes. Dads voter savviness is just built different junior ☑️💯

[@johnchessant3012]

The Reform Party did win an election in our timeline: Jesse Ventura as governor of Minnesota in 1998. Also, Perot placed 2nd in Maine in 1992 with 30% of the vote and Angus King was elected governor there as an independent two years later. So it's definitely possible that with Perot as president, you'd have many more Reform Party victories in state and local elections, and the movement wouldn't have died out as soon as it did.

[@Pretermit_Sound]

Minnesotan here. Ventura was actually not too bad of a governor. I wish he would have put in another couple terms. I still have a Jesse Ventura t shirt from that era that has “my governor can beat up your governor” with a caricature of Jesse from his pro-wrestling days. Lol 😂

[@spookyknife4645]

@@Pretermit_Sounda governor fight between Ventura and Schwarzenegger would be so fun to watch

[@Pretermit_Sound]

@@spookyknife4645 it certainly would 😁

[@Sammmmmmmm617]

FUN FACT: Ross Perot gifted Bernie Sanders a sword.

[@daltonmiller5590]

Ooh that _is_ a fun fact!

[@MASTEROFEVIL]

Neat

[@HAASgoggles]

I am not surprised but I am going to have to fact check that.

[@Brams2777]

He has deemed Bernie worthy to be King of America

[@Jrookus]

Based

[@a_human8489]

“YOU GET A HEALTHCARE! YOU GET A HEALTHCARE! EVERYBODY GETS A HEALTHCARE!” -Vice President Oprah

[@Cjnw]

Canada has a healthcare!

[@medexamtoolscom]

@@Cjnw A really crappy healthcare. Oh I know all about it. I broke a bone in Canada and thanks to their WONDERFUL healthcare system, they refused to see me in a timely manner, which it turns out I desperately needed, as the blood supply to the bone was cut off and it died after about 2 days (avascular necrosis). Thanks to Canada. A CIVILIZED country with CIVILIZED healthcare could have treated me.

[@rumrunner8019]

"Where is the Executive Order? Well, look under the seat because I GOT SOMETHING FOR YOU!"

[@lordgemini2376]

@@medexamtoolscom Lies

[@JimothyJigga]

@@lordgemini2376 I had to be amputated because of falling 20 feet into a fire gorge. I broke one of my legs and the lower leg bone shot up through my leg and into my hip, and then I got 3red degree burns on my lower half. They did not see me till 4 hours after I arrived, so I lost more than I should've.

[@derekskelton4187]

I feel like Roosevelt's Bull Moose party was probably the first real shot at taking down the established political parties by trying to appeal to both sides. Would be kinda neat if that party was still active and strong today

[@Monsuco]

Except it was basically just a splinter party broken off from a specific faction of the Republicans and all it really did was deliver the election to Woodrow Wilson. Much like Ross Perot's run only really succeeded in handing off the election to Bill Clinton.

[@killergoose7643]

@@Monsuco Perot wasn't a spoiler for any one candidate. He drew votes from everybody as he appealed to moderates across the political spectrum. Clinton won a) because H. W. just wasn't popular anymore and b) because HE drew votes from Perot at the last minute by throwing a bone to some of his proposals.

[@Marylandbrony]

If Theodore Roosevelt did win in 1912, we would have likely seen the GOP enter a era of decline like the Liberals did in England. The Republicans would be a weird kinda Liberal mainly popular in New England & upstate New York, some Western farming communities and the Jello belt. With the Progressives replacing them as the leading left of center party. Roosevelt would still probably go into World War 1 at some point and we may have joined the league of Nations. But perhaps after the chaos of post war America, a Northern democrat would win in 1920 on a platform of normalcy like the Republicans did in 1920 as well and more or less American political life would play out the same as it did OTL with the Progressives being the main Liberal party and the Democrats being more or less dominated by Southern conservatives. With maybe the Republicans being a a radical centrist alternative like a larger more complement version of the libertarians.

[@samuelspace101]

@@Monsuco sounds like the Democrats were the spoiler, Ross Perot was much more centeral and polling from both sides so “technically” the democrats were steeling votes from him and pulling them right.

[@vincentprice9156]

Its so odd, the 90's and early 2000's feel like an alternate dimension compared to the 2010's and beyond.

[@grantjohnson5785]

It was. The question is how we get back there.

[@elijahfordsidioticvarietys8770]

In my view, the entire world basically shifted when 9/11 happened. Anything pre-9/11 is basically like the stone age to me.

[@misterbooga6466]

@@elijahfordsidioticvarietys8770 why?

[@elijahfordsidioticvarietys8770]

@@misterbooga6466 well, 9/11 made everyone all sad and scared.

[@misterbooga6466]

@@elijahfordsidioticvarietys8770 I guess so. But I don’t think we have any reason to be sad or scared

[@blackbarnz]

"The activist is not the man who says the river is dirty. The activist is the man who cleans up the river"... "Had I accepted these exclusive fraternal invitations, I could not run as an independent"...

[@LisaBowers]

"I know the age of my viewers." I voted for Perot in '92. Am I an anomaly?

[@urielantoniobarcelosavenda780]

Im at least 30 years younger than you and for the comments I deduce almost all have like 5 or 10 years more than me, so I would say that you rigth

[@Rocketsong]

I also voted for Perot in '92.

[@buckybone89]

yeeeep...I was 3 years old at the time, and there's a fair chance that the majority of his viewership was born in the 2000s.

[@jb888888888]

I also voted in the 1992 election; it was the second presidential election I was qualified to vote in.

[@thatgaming1940]

@Eli Wilson I was negative 11

[@jehovahsfitness3151]

Id honestly prefer this timeline. Just so we could have a fighting chance at ending the two party divide eventually.

[@OlEgSaS32]

frankly i wish all parties to be abolished and just have candidates run on their policies alone instead of platforms

[@fwingebritson]

@@OlEgSaS32 The reason that will never happen is that they do not have enough confidence that people will donate as much as they do fired up for one party or another.

[@ohiotoledo3787]

@@OlEgSaS32 then only millionaires could run since parties also fund candidates.

[@OlEgSaS32]

@@ohiotoledo3787 i know, i know, i just wish we didnt structure our political system like that, they need money for ads, rallies, etc or else they would absolutely be lost in the void to everyone, and that shouldnt be, but it is what it is

[@onyxrafle8066]

With first past the post voting if a third party brute-forced their way in it would just end up knocking one of the others out. We have to change to something like ranked choice voting for us to actually have a chance to have more parties.

[@BZAKether]

I have to say that it still amazes me how a man could get 19% of the popular vote, literally millions of people on his side, and wining 0 electoral college votes. No one stopped and said, "wait, this is so wrong, a person/party that was voted by 19% of the voting population is not going to be represented at all anywhere, we must change that".

[@BigWheel.]

Republican and democrat voters both probably thought "cool the guy stealing votes from my team won't be around to do that" and just let it go, And real politicians wouldn't care for obvious reasons.

[@gwho]

POWerless. THose that can change that are the one in power. It's not that no one stopped to realize. T's that power is held tightly, and those that have it are incentivized to keep their power, and exclude others who would go against his interests

[@kitchenersown]

The benefit of the electoral college is that it prevents a tyranny of the majority...although yeah I do recognize that it has lots of problems.

[@Lawnmower737]

That 19% is not concentrated, it was spread out relatively evenly.

[@longislandlegoboy]

@@kitchenersown The electoral college doesn’t prevent tyranny of the majority at all. Nothing stops Texas, NY, Florida, and California from voting together. It’s just dumb luck that the political situation is as it is, this wasn’t intended when the constitution was written. This is a common misconception with the system

[@greenorion6501]

Fun fact: My great grandpa was best friends with Ross Perot when they went to the Naval Academy together

[@travispepe553]

Very cool

[@derfakegangster]

Fun fact: Opra can do ANYTHING

[@dogabc6296]

That is a fun fact

[@imahuman6880]

“Basically a jreg video in real life” Oh My God

[@joeschmo6488]

yeah, i wasn't expecting that reference either lol

[@louisduarte8763]

Dare I ask who or what "jreg" is?

[@imahuman6880]

@@louisduarte8763 He is a weird political KZbinr, I can’t really describe it but look his channel up.

[@joaovitormatos8147]

@@louisduarte8763 just look for his channel

[@713max]

@@louisduarte8763 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mGOli6x6bK2XjZI&ab_channel=Jreg

[@robertking7506]

Well, for a while Ross Perot had been leading in the polls, so he may have had a good shot at winning. Dropping out did hurt him though

[@bullmoosemedia]

He and his family was threatened repeatedly so I totally get it....

[@albanian_barcelona_fan]

@@bullmoosemedia Should not have taken those threats seriously.Even if he was killed,a whole new era would begin,with new parties.People would come to understand that the democrats and republicans have monopolised everything and would not anyone interfere in their war for power.Perot tried to but as you said,gave up.Had he not dropped either he would be president or a nation hero.If the latter happened,l expect an anti establishment revolution would happen and the 2 party system would be gone.

[@Balderdash1000]

@@bullmoosemedia I get why he did it, but afterwards there was no way that people would trust him to stay the course the next time things got tough. It's pretty common for powerful politicians to get death threats. It's not pretty, but it's the way the game is played, and if he couldn't handle it he honestly shouldn't have run in the first place.

[@Saxton_Hoovy]

@@albanian_barcelona_fan I am not sure if you are on a fever dream or not but most likely none of that would have happen if he was killed as many people saw him as buying his way towards it and even if the 2 parties we currently have ,2 other will take their place not matter what it be the lion and tiger parties as having 2 parties is pretty engrained into the american system.

[@starwarsstudio100]

0:04: Not gonna lie that Elephant is pretty *THICC*

[@delta5-126]

*VERY* *THICC*

[@PrestonGarvey-j3g]

W I D E

[@delta5-126]

@@eatinsomtin9984 do this * Insert any word * but dont make the annotation spaced

[@vogelvogeltje]

@@eatinsomtin9984 *THICCY*

[@sciencewizard2861]

stop sexualizing elephants you freaks

[@themoochman3867]

Proud to say my mom was in that 19% who voted for Perot

[@finchborat]

Same with my mom. She heard him speak at an event in my hometown back in '91 or '92.

[@davidrox4591]

Both of my folks.

[@benpholmes]

Same here, even though my mom always voted for the Democratic candidate otherwise. And I really don't think it was impossible for Ross Perot to have won. If his campaign had picked up momentum, and had had no setbacks, he could have gained 25% of of popular opinion, then leading to 35% or maybe 40% (as much as Lincoln won) by Election Day, and still won the Electoral College.

[@davidrox4591]

@@benpholmes His campaign had momentum and was leading all polls until he pulled out. When he reentered the race he never regained the lead in the polls. Clinton was elected with a plurality, not a majority, of the vote.

[@benpholmes]

@@davidrox4591 Exactly. Although honestly I didn't remember Perot actually being ahead in the polls, but that was a long time ago and I was barely paying attention back then. So I definitely think Cody is wrong to say that there's no way Perot ever could have won.

[@Sneaker3719]

It actually blows my mind that Trump was running on some of the same issues Bernie was only 20 years ago. Crazy where the grift can take you.

[@domenstrmsek5625]

Nah Biden become candidate plus he was smart that republicans was angry becouse Obama that used them for support

[@Xo-3130]

Eh it's more how cultural war can go. Bush's presidency started this crap, Obama's feed it and Trump himself just made it a permanent cancer. The only people winning right now are preformance activist who get to pretend they are doing shit while we are burn under a Neoliberal hell.

[@bullmoosemedia]

People seem to forget that Trump was actual a liberal Democrat until 2008 because of his Obama hate. As the video points out, he was actually, pro-gun control, pro-universal healthcare. He was however and still is an asshole. It would be great if someone could make a video of 2000 Trump debating 2020 Trump.

[@Alovon]

@@bullmoosemedia Yeah, honestly all this just feeds my theory that Donald has had some degree of mental degradation since the early 2000's, and the parts of him that had some level of decency have just been eroded away.

[@domenstrmsek5625]

@@bullmoosemedia is crazy how one person basicly destroyed everything to make a rise A madman whose nobady expected and change one party forever (Obama )

[@stabbitythecricket2076]

The libertarian party was probably a bit pissed when this dude got 19% vote

[@isshintheglocksaintPlotagon]

Harry Browne was pretty good

[@knightwing5169]

For many years, I kinda assumed Perot was libertarian (i.e. fiscally conservative and socially liberal).

[@knightwing5169]

​@Mike H When I think of extremist libertarianism, I think of ancaps. You know, more like Timothy McVeigh and less like Anders Breivik.

[@shahrikamin4699]

@@knightwing5169 That is more accurate. You could also think of Ansocs, though they're less common.

[@ArcturusOTE]

@@shahrikamin4699 ansoc as in anarcho socialists?

[@Hun_Uinaq]

I voted for him next time he ran. I was too young and 92. But, I agree with damn near everything he said. He was right about it all. My fondest memory of him was when he said: “you’re the boss, and I’m Ross.” I bet he thought it was hell to watch every prediction he ever made about all the stuff that was going to go wrong come true. He only died a couple years ago. God rest his soul. He would’ve made one hell of a president.

[@newginslab6993]

I feel like the “three party system” would only last about a decade. If the reform party got a foothold in politics it would only be a matter of time before either the democrat or Republican Party would falter to the wayside like Whigs or Federalists. It would be back to the same two party system in a matter of time after Perot leaves office, with the both two parties radically changing to fit their respective places like the democrats and republicans do now. That’s just my theory, thanks for watching my ted talk

[@AbsolXGuardian]

Yeah. I mean that's how the relevant parties change. FPF just can't accommodate three parties for long

[@ostrobothnian9995]

Or perhaps a full on election reform would destroy Republicans and Democrats for good and create multiple European style parties.

[@dustinobrien7970]

@@ostrobothnian9995 most of Europe has only 2 major parties its just their third party have more influence

[@AlexThePlatypus]

@@dustinobrien7970 Actually UK is pretty much only country in europe (and atleast EU) with non multi-party system

[@RoberttheWise]

Or if the Reform Party actually managed to find the center between the Republicans and Democrats and get the same amount of voters from both parties there could have been a strange one party system where one centrist mega party swallowed up anyone moderate enough to pose it any challenge. Very unlikely but interesting to imagine.

[@Koala1203]

Can you do "What if terrorists successfully destroyed the World Trade Center during the 1993 bombing?"

[@Martinxo51]

Maybe the war on terror would have began a decade before

[@dentonscheibal3]

I can tell you already that if the 93 bombing were successful, since the terrorists' intention was to have one of the towers fall onto the other, bringing them both down and all over Lower Manhattan, and given that the the North Tower was 1,368ft (not counting it's antenna mast) and the South Tower was just very slightly shorter at 1,362ft, the amount of damage and death this would've caused all over Lower Manhattan would be MUCH worse than what we got on 9/11, how much worse is up for debate.

[@Saiyan0X]

@@dentonscheibal3 Well, first, no one would be able to evacuate, since it would be almost instantly, so all people in both towers would be effectively lost. Add a couple of buildings full of people, and yeah, easily double the amount of people dead.

[@BradyBadlyAnimates]

@@Saiyan0X 50,000 people worked in both towers. It could’ve easily exceeded 20,000 deaths if done on a busy work day

[@jonnunn4196]

@@BradyBadlyAnimates It was a Friday and 1217 local , so neither the busiest day and timed to when those that take lunch at all would have been at lunch. But not just office workers would be dead, there would have been some tourists as well.

[@tomtomtrent]

Imagine if a supporter of Trump from this alternate dimension came to ours. It would be like the mirror universe from Star Trek

[@anelbegic2780]

True, I support Trump (as long as he doesnt betray his principles anyway) as of now but what a shock. I already knew that Trump was far more of a 90's democrat/paleo-con (my knowledge on these terms is limited honestly) than neo-con but what a change of policy he made he made from the 90's to now. Maybe we would even avoid the clusterfuck that is the 2020 election and the media would be less biased, which would certainly make America less divided (which is good).

[@Hevdaduck]

@@anelbegic2780 yup I wish the media wouldn’t separate Americans because we are all Americans in the end we all want the best for this country it doesn’t matter if the opposite side won because In the end we will be fine

[@3dmaster205]

Uh, no; it would just be any run of the mill alternate universe; it would in no way be the horror that is the Mirror Universe. In fact, it's closer that our world is slowly turning to become the Mirror Universe; the Globalists are eager to institute a global tyranny, that can easily turn into an empire.

[@everhall306]

@@anelbegic2780 hey if Trump passed universal healthcare, a single payer system, I’d get on boadd

[@christianali5431]

Funny you should mention that. I want to write a very funny story about The reason behind not letting certain universes be aware of other universes. The bare bones of the story is this: “At one point during our travels through alternate universes, We happened upon a universe which had experienced the alternate historical events needed for Alaska to have been owned by Russia, its resources utilized almost exclusively by them. We were able to see many amazing things during our time in the universe. Version of call of the wild written by Leo Tolstoy. Memorials to the fallen Romanov dynasty. Inuit natives able to converse with the public at large and each other in perfect Russian. Russian orthodox churches adorning the skyline of Anchorage. It truly was most beautiful. We were amazed by how such a tiny event could do so many interesting things to a region, and to American history at large, until one day we made the mistake of telling another universe what we saw. Everyone was quite intrigued until we made the mistake of letting it slip that, for the lack of money acquired by the Klondike Gold Rush, Transsouth Legacy, his businesses, indeed his presidency has been removed from history. Realizing that there was a universe in which Donald Trump was never important enough to be anything, people began to travel to that universe on mass, effectively emptying their own universe of any and all Democratic voters. This intern, cost for a major inbalance in this universe in political circles, causing a persistent and perpetuating one party government to remain in effect to this day.”

[@michaeledmunds7056]

The idea of a reformist party Trump with Oprah as VP made my brain explode. You owe me a new one.

[@stackhat8624]

Not really. Trump was always a grifter and opportunist that would say and do anything to get ahead.

[@Smile200-z4y]

Too bad we didnt get this timeline. It would have been great.

[@DeshiBlacksheep]

You telling me we could've had a 2016 Trump that taxed the rich and pushed for universal healthcare? I hate this timeline.

[@albertjackinson]

I still might not have supported him, though, if he didn't have a robust climate plan. And I don't know if he would be as divisive or not in the way he goes about things.

[@mel-chan5567]

@jp two party systems, sadly

[@briannevs2772]

Perot was far from Trump...Perot had actual policy ideas.

[@MikeyDL69]

Trump had horrible ideas before he ran in 2016.

[@RequiemPoete]

Trump would still be a narcissistic asshole, but rather than buying adulation via xenophobia and pushing hatred, he'd buy it by actually helping Americans? I'd wear a MAGA hat for that.

[@arjansahota4911]

Imma just save y’all some time and summarize the video: Jeb comes outta nowhere and wins the 2000 election and becomes galactic emperor of the known universe

[@AxxLAfriku]

I STRONGLY DISAGREE! Being as famous as I am on KZbin, I know that it gets hard to read every comment I get. I try my best, but I am just so famous, that I can't do it much longer. Sorry, dear aeja

[@atillanandorfuri3343]

And thus he finally achieves his ultimate dream, as the whole galaxy claps for him

[@samuelschonenberger]

Emperor of Mankind you mean

[@crazeelazee7524]

So the only difference is that Jeb becomes God emperor 24 years earlier?

[@lowleypeasentmr.l8836]

@@AxxLAfriku I just scrolled through your channel for a few seconds. You are somehow everything that's wrong with the modernday, the personification of 2007 internet, and have the talent of a rage comic.

[@Amesang]

I'm still recovering from April's "Election What If?" video…

[@hugo57k91]

The world that was meant to be

[@DJlovesjiujitsu]

Still longing for Jebruary

[@PuppeteerGaming]

Galactic Overlord Jeb Bush

[@FlyingAlfredoSaucer]

Was that the one where Jeb Bush became Emperor of Mankind

[@pieter-bashoogsteen2283]

@@FlyingAlfredoSaucer yes.

[@federalismooimperio3161]

"Did you vote for Ross Perot?" 90's Americans: No "What did it cost you?" 90's Americans: The Trump - Oprah ticket...

[@T2G-DJT]

“All extremes are on the same team.” - Ross Perot, 1992

[@OrriRosman]

Except in the way that proves horseshoe theory

[@jliller]

"“All extremes are on the same team.” Germans circa 1930 nod in agreement. Communists (left-wing extremists) and Nazis (right-wing extremists) both worked towards the common end of bringing down Weimar Germany and the Social Democrats.

[@jkitty542]

If Perot has run with a strong running mate and hadn’t, yknow, dropped out, he would have had a serious chance at winning in 92.

[@newstartyt3700]

He was set to win and all... Until he dropped out

[@bullmoosemedia]

We need a populist fusion party.

[@Ash-zm1vx]

It would still be a long shot, but yes a chance

[@Ash-zm1vx]

And considering that he dropped out on something never proven, it’s quite possible that there were scandals of his we never saw

[@cullenpeterson]

A Perot presidency may not have been amazing seeing as he’d have no allies in government, but I certainly would have voted for him.

[@bensonfang1868]

He could use his billions to threaten to unseat anyone who opposed his agenda with attack ads in the midterms

[@ryanmorrison4698]

If he'd won then they'd give him the Trump treatment. That's how the establishment deals with outsiders.

[@galahadgarza6905]

My favorite line from Ross Perot during one of the debates was, “I’m all ears”. Unfortunately, prior to this debate much had been made of Mr. Perot’s ears. Thus when he uttered those words the audience in attendance broke into laughter.

[@Delightfully_Witchy]

Was he not joking at his own expense?

[@galahadgarza6905]

@@Delightfully_Witchy I don’t think he intended the comment to be self deprecating. Although he immediately laughed it off, he seemed genuinely disappointed that he had chosen that particular phrase-since so many in the media had made the size of his ears a major talking point.

[@stephenwright8824]

_"All Boats Rise with the Tide"_ was mine.

[@Jamandabop]

I like the Jreg reference. You're a man of culture Cody.

[@error5202]

*Tips fedora*

[@M.A.T.S.K.O]

I’m pretty sure he even supports Jreg on patreon too, surprised they haven’t collaborated

[@CapyMartinBara]

- Universal Health care - Taxing the 1% - Banning assault rifles - Oprah as Vice Me and also this vid: *WHAT?!*

[@edmundthespiffing2920]

If only he was still the same.

[@kevinaguilar7541]

1. ✔ healthcare should be privatized 2. No it's counter productive 3. ✔ not on appearance but rather on performance and ammo 4. No, why?

[@angushughes5371]

"Assualt Weapons" is a bullshit term, and all gun control is bullshit as well, but I can take the rest.

[@anelbegic2780]

@joke card agreed, I support Trump but if he actually said that seriously and meant it, what a fucking brainfart did he have to think of such an good idea?

[@demonking-zm3rs]

@@angushughes5371 honestly though I need to ask what does a person need an assault weapon for exactly Hunting I get and protection(like something basic) I can agree with but why that?

[@kasodus1370]

What if Borat Sagdiyev won the 2008 presidential election?

[@nbr1rckr]

Very nice! Is what.

[@ztac_dex]

this should be a HOI4 mod

[@richardarriaga6271]

We won't have COVID since Borat's boss wouldn't get mad. Also, Rudy Guiliani could have sexy time with reporters in hotels without anyone knowing.

[@prestonjones1653]

The only election my grandmother participated in was 92 and she voted Perot. My mom lambasted her for wasting her vote... my mom regrets her words now.

[@vincelupo8419]

I mean. Yes and no. We still need a rank choice voting system or something other than "most votes". It makes us binary and polarized. Rank choice voting or other voting systems improve voting and third party chances by essentially saying "you can pick your top pick and your alternate pick(s), and once the math is done, your vote won't be wasted on a third party candidate". In fact, it's quite possible that we would have 5 or 7 solid political parties by now had we implemented it long enough ago.

[@conordoonan8669]

The whole deal with trump is a complete mind bender. I knew he used to be more moderate but knowing why and how is crazy. Good video.

[@anelbegic2780]

He still is more (although obiously less than in the 90's and 2000's) moderate than he let on in his 2016 run before he became president if you can cut through the crap the media was printing about him and actually get to what "he" was saying. In fact, he tried to impliment a few policies Cody mentioned in the video during his run as president was told no by mostly the democrats and media, but also the republicans sometimes as well.

[@letsburn00]

Trump shifted from wanting to tax the 1% to cutting the 1% taxes. At it's core, the republican party is focussed on helping the already rich, everything else is secondary. I actually feel like he was used by the republicans to get their tax cuts and reduced consumer, environment and personal protections through. Notice how the only major policy he passed in the first 2 years was a tax cut for the wealthy? That's on purpose.

[@ArcturusOTE]

@@letsburn00 So basically he was a tool used to serve R and its backers' interests. Gee I wonder what happens if somehow in 2016 he won as third party or even D?

[@letsburn00]

@@ArcturusOTE Pretty much. Trump is largely driven by his ego. That actually can be a positive thing if your heart and information is good. The best Australian prime minister in the last 20 yrs was famously a massive egotistical asshole. He got removed by his own party after 2 years. It was claimed because he was an asshole, but really it was because he actually fought entrenched interests and people with their noses at the trough on both sides of politics wanted him gone, so a good chunk of the corperate media were totally hostile. But in the end, it looks like he was basically 100% right. Sadly, Trump appears to be very easily manipulated by his advisers and the right wing media. His main stupider aspects of policy look to me more like "forwards from grandma" stuff that he doesn't know it's nonsense. But he's still the president, the buck stops with him. He has no one to blame but himself for hiring bad advisers and taking bad advice.

[@Ale_emj]

@@letsburn00 which pm?

[@buscar4317]

You either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain. - Harvey Dent

[@backwoodsjunkie08]

I have an original 1922 Morgan silver dollar coin, just like Harvey's. Pretty kool. Use it to flip as my lucky coin

[@didncozosksma4466]

@@backwoodsjunkie08 Just don't get half your face burnt off or get involved in the political climate of a crime ridden city, and things will turn out fine.

[@te1227]

So Perot’s Reform Party harkens back to the Rough Rider himself. Economic progressive reforms while also mercantilist.

[@briangriffin9793]

Ah the Moose!

[@zachstutzman4059]

Bully, a challenge I love competition!

[@evanfitzpatrick5173]

@@zachstutzman4059 a man of culture I see

[@johnbaugh2437]

The funny thing is, almost everything he predicted actually came to pass. I live in Texarkana, Tx., his hometown. I drive over the Ross Perot bridge everyday haha

[@funfunfun3624]

Nafta is what really fucked america. We chose corporate money over our own people

[@Post-ModernCzechoslovakianWar]

Ross Perot had some very interesting ideas in his infomercials. I remember him talking about potentially being able to have a trust fund that would collect enough interest collected, that it could fund the salaries of thousands of nurses simply from the interest, and that was when he was talking about his ideas for a gas tax.

[@Michi2150]

I wasn't prepared to see a Jreg reference.

[@derhenri2002]

AltHistoryHub has been a sub since the start of Centricide, at least.

[@Colddirector]

It's time to Jreg. Lets Jreg, everybody!

[@erickamakeeaina1649]

100th like

[@detleffleischer9418]

I think Alternate History Hub has commented on a few of his recent videos.

[@syahmikadira6832]

Cody's even one of Jreg's Patreon members.

[@cryptic_shock]

This makes me wish we had a bernie vs trump election even more, it would be one of the most iconic election ever.

[@Edge50199]

To be honest if Bernie want it to he could implode the dems with making a 3rd party candidacy and that was going to be very interesting. I honestly would have loved to see debate between him and trump than biden.

[@thelifeofcal7193]

i actually believe that if Bernie got the nomination there would be a split in the democratic party between the progressives and moderates. handing trump a landslide victory similar tot he Taft vs Teddy vs Wilson election

[@everhall306]

@@thelifeofcal7193 there wasn’t exactly a strong centrist candidate available to step into the ring for Moderate Dems. Joe Biden? Pfffff

[@everhall306]

@@thelifeofcal7193 plus they were pretty obsessed with getting rid of Trump as well, lowering the likelihood of that significantly

[@thelifeofcal7193]

@@everhall306 i dont think they'd go as far as to vote for a socialist. most democrats are not like that

[@SynysterGoose]

The use of the KZbin logo as the natzi logo is gold haha

[@xsmoothgoldx]

its Nazi

[@stephenwright8824]

@@xsmoothgoldx Nope. In trying to distract people who might be Nazis, YT just showed how much they were _themselves_ Nazi-esque.

[@deemiaan]

Redditor ass comment

[@themadkraken1912]

I love how your channel has, at the same time, both gotten more shitposty and more informative. No where else do you see deep political analysis combined with Jreg and Political Compass Memes.

[@artistwithouttalent]

He's starting a new channel called Pointless Hub for "reviews, nostalgia shit, game shit. Talk about topics like. Goofy Movie. Spyro. Jojo. 90s Disaster Movies. Musicals." -and also there's shitpost hub but shh nobody knows about that-

[@themadkraken1912]

@@artistwithouttalent Hmm?

[@ArcturusOTE]

@@themadkraken1912 Tldr he has a new channel for miscellaneous talk

[@Debre.]

Political Compass Memes is where politics goes to die. Any time you visit that subreddit your IQ drops by 2 points.

[@2Links]

Really interesting about the Trump part. Had no idea about his policies before joining the Republican party Edit: Oh god, I've started a war.

[@elmashable9722]

It is so interesting to hear Trump’s liberal policies too. How times have change.

[@commisaryarreck3974]

Many of said policies are still alive But you wouldn't hear that with 93% negative coverage. Going as far as to push conspiracy theories like Russia for 3 years I mean you haven't realized? The man could cure cancer single-handedly and the Media would scream how Cancer is good and he's a racist sexist blah blah blah for curing it

[@maxtube1952]

@@commisaryarreck3974 Even if what he believed back then is still something he believes, the "93% negative coverage" is honestly deserved. I keep hearing "If he cured cancer single-handedly people would still hate him! If he saved Obama's life people would still hate him! If he solved world hunger people would still hate him-" NO. Look, you can't say any of that because he *Hasn't cured cancer single-handedly.* And even if he was physically capable, he likely wouldn't give it to anyone because he cares more about money than the people. People constantly call him racist, misogynistic, scammy, demented, scummy, greedy, xenophobic, etc etc *because he is.* He's done a FEW good things, maybe, but most of the good stuff he's done is actually just stuff he stole credit for from other politicians and previous presidents. Even if he has done a few things, that doesn't change the fact that he's ruined and indirectly ended hundreds of lives. Hitler did some good things - he's still Hitler.

[@ArcturusOTE]

@@maxtube1952 So you think Trump would've remained unpopular even if he implemented more socially liberal policies? Idk about that but he'd probably be less divisive about it had he become more centrist-ish during his reign.

[@maxtube1952]

@@ArcturusOTE Maybe, maybe not. All I know is he's a horrible president, pathetic businessman and just generally really...dull. The fact that people defend him still, knowing these things, is ludicrous to me. I don't care for what could've been - this is who he is.

[@ztk211]

honestly surprised trump didnt get whiplash by how drastic his political opinion changed between his run in 2000 and 2016

[@bjehulk]

He did. Remember the Republican Primary debates? Guys like Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio heavily criticized Trump for his previous leftist policies as well as his friendships with some Democrats. To be honest, Trump’s policies changed for the better though.

[@gabrielonibudo5710]

@@bjehulk facts

[@themightymcb7310]

@@bjehulk "Changed for the better" How can people unironically think this? If trump stuck with his 2000 run platform, I might have even considered voting for him. He abandoned everything great in favor of the southern strategy.

[@TitanDarwin]

Which of course assumes he was honest about it - guy's a habitual liar after all.

[@P7777-u7r]

Trump has seriously been screwed over in terms of policy by the fact that he had to run as a Republican. I still think he would push in public healthcare if he could hes just "not allowed" to do it. He should have turned against the Republican establishment after being elected and built up his own party over the past 4 years

[@aaronTGP_3756]

Perot would have had a really good chance if he wasn't in a situation that required him to drop out. He could've gotten 30-40% of the vote, creating a super intense battle.

[@MonsieurDean]

*"CLAP REQUIRED"*

[@אוהדאריאליופה]

What if akhenaten's religious revolution succeeded?

[@MonsieurDean]

Even on other people's videos I am beset upon by scenario suggestions. Such is the blessing and curse of an alternate historian.

[@אוהדאריאליופה]

@@MonsieurDean its a very interesting timeline, monotheism become populare in egypt in the mid 14th century BC, during the late bronze age, how would that efect egypt and its area?, how would that change history?, and how the religion would spred to other places?

[@The_Sunscreenist]

@@MonsieurDean f sorry for that pal

[@MonsieurDean]

Ancient World scenarios are always a blast. Will make a note of it! 👍

[@grey3247]

The reform party sounds like the inspiration for NPP in TNO

[@nicole3002]

@asuka lamely Given the absolute state of the community, hopefully not

[@nicole3002]

@asuka lamely True, but this is a community where someone has made a hoodie with a Nazi war criminal on it . Plus Cody had problems when he did the Kaiserreich video.

[@MatanVil]

What is TNO?

[@nicole3002]

@@MatanVil The new order: last days of Europe . It's a mod for the strategy gamer hearts of iron 4 and it's set in an alternate 1962 with a cold war between Japan, Germany and the USAm

[@dosmoss9365]

@@MatanVil universe where Germany won WW2, known for being very critical of fascism and showing it's horrors in a very eye opening way

[@gaz9434]

Gee, I love YT slapping a “THE ASSOCIATED PRESS HAS CALLED THIS RACE FOR JOE BIDEN” annotation on a vid that has nothing to do with the 2020 election

[@commisaryarreck3974]

Yes Elections are 100% secure as well Ignore that we pushed a conspiracy theory about Russia hacking our elections for 4 years please

[@Fr4ncM]

@Commisar Yarreck So basically both are right or neither is? What is your point exactly? Also the Russian thing was never about fraud, but about influence in the public opinion during the election; the thing is it was so idiotically dealt by both sides that we will never know if it actually had any meaningful impact on the outcome.

[@finchborat]

That annotation is on quite a few videos. It's annoying.

[@willblack7353]

@@commisaryarreck3974 You had me in the first half, ngl.

[@JesusChrist42000]

@thunder key what are you talking about my party is always right, the other party is always wrong and I'm always the smartest in the conversation.

[@nathanfish1998]

I hate politics because of the party system. Its really annoying that we can't escape it because so many people either vote straight-ticket for a single party because they want to or because they have no faith in the chance we could choose someone actually helpful. Like many others here, I hate this horrid timeline we were thrown into and want to be in the one presented in the video

[@grantjohnson5785]

My wife and I think we need to draw names out of a hat to get our legislators and executives. It can't be much worse than we have now.

[@nathanfish1998]

@@grantjohnson5785 careful what you say, you might jinx it. Still, not a bad idea.

[@grantjohnson5785]

@@nathanfish1998 There'd be some qualifications. It's still fairly rough, but here's the idea: 1. Single terms in each position only; no career politicians in that regard. 2. While you serve, your normal job is held for you, just like for jury duty. While you serve, your salary is the same as you earned at home, though with a modest stipend for housing in the state/federal capital as needed, transportation, staff, etc. 3. You can refuse any position you feel is beyond your ability, or that you do not desire. 4. Additional qualifications are necessary for certain positions, for example: MD to be coroner, JD to be an elected prosecutor, defender, or judge, engineering degree to be a county engineer, etc. 5. You have to serve in local/county gov't first. For your name to go in that "hat" you need to be 18 and have high school diploma or the equivalent, IQ of at least 95 (so at least "average"), and no felony record (even as a juvenile). 6. After you've served in local gov't, your constituents vote on your performance. If you have a job performance >50%, your name goes into the state "hat". Minimum IQ requirement goes up by 5 as well. (You can retest at any time.) 7. After you've served in state gov't, your constituents vote on your performance. If you have a job performance >50%, your name goes into the US House "hat". 8. After you've served in the US House, your constituents vote on your performance. If you have a job performance >60%, your name goes into the Senate "hat" 5 years after you leave office; same process for going from Senate to POTUS/VP. 9. Judges follow a parallel system; local to state to federal. SCOTUS, once selected, remain for life but have their job performance evaluated every 5 years. Any with job performance

[@backwoodsjunkie08]

Yeah iv been voting 3rd party for a few terms now. Dems and republicans are completly incompetent

[@stephenwright8824]

*Proportional Representation.* Not only for US but also for the UK. First-Past-The-Post gave them Brexit, gave US Trump. Lesson Learned? Not for two countries who are too in love with Horse Races as Elections where _everybody_ loses.

[@impermanentLucidity]

Dude if Ross Perot ran today he'd probably win SOMETHING

[@Scrapmanluke1]

That would be interesting since he is deceased.

[@kyleking3839]

@@Scrapmanluke1 yeah I think he meant in 2016 or he's just not searching much up

[@DavidLLambertmobile]

Maybe not. RP was just too brash, harsh for the general public. I liked him but he was like a neighbor everyone knew was aloof but nice.

[@immaculatesquid]

@@DavidLLambertmobile so basically like trump

[@Skellyy]

2016 would be the best

[@STAROMEGA54]

I know who ross Perot is, hes was played by a little girl with rubber ears on Nickelodeon tv show ALL THAT in the 90s.

[@chris7263]

Yes! That is all I can think of when I try to picture him.

[@madchiller123]

"I got 4 billion dollars"

[@STAROMEGA54]

@@chris7263 It is the best impression of Ross Perot ever.

[@craziej9566]

Heeeeee hee hee hee hee hee

[@louisduarte8763]

@@STAROMEGA54 And Dana Carvey's wasn't?

[@whifflermr6168]

If Ross Perot didn't drop out he might have won a few states

[@paramagician]

I was just thinking this same thing. I think he would have done much better had he not dropped out

[@TheOtherWhiteNerd]

I imagine that's how he could win. He wins enough states and swings enough votes that no one wins the Electoral College, so it goes to the House Delegates who decide to choose a third-party.

[@MDP1702]

@@TheOtherWhiteNerd The house wouldn't choose a third party, unless enough seats in the house are won by the reform party/independents and cause no one to have a "states" majority in the house.

[@niccolorichter1488]

@@TheOtherWhiteNerd Democrats have a majority in delegation in 92 so Clinton

[@jonnunn4196]

@@TheOtherWhiteNerd Even if butterfly effects also cause the Democrats to fall below slightly below majority of the required 26 state delegations, Clinton still wins even if it takes two or three rounds. It would have been much easier to swing deadlocked state delegations Clinton's way than Bush' in January 1993.

[@leevc2037]

9:25 - 10:29 I...wha...my...WHOLE brain just...BLUESCREEN.

[@Qaianna]

Interesting thoughts here. And now also thinking of another presidential one: What if the 22nd Amendment (the two-term limit amendment) never passed?

[@brandonp810]

Reagan would have been around for a long time

[@stevenevenshow2790]

Roosevelt would've survived his polio and still reigned.

[@CynicalDriver]

JFK wouldn't have been shot and we would have lost the race to the moon.

[@Gamer-mq6ho]

Eisenhower,Reagan,Clinton and Obama all could run for and win a third term.

[@louisduarte8763]

Isn't that why Nixon's on a 4th term in WATCHMEN (the graphic novel)?

[@lilesapi5126]

Ross Perot was actually leading in the polls at one point so it isn't as unlikely as you think that he could have won

[@jenovasephiroth]

Did you know the CIA tried to kill Ross Perot, thats why he backed out of the race for a short time.

[@america05]

@@jenovasephiroth Did you know that I'm riding this horse backwards?

[@SpaceMonkeyBoi]

AHH: **talks about people loosing jobs** The background: skoobee due 📈

[@miketastic8648]

I worked at Perot’s old company in 2014. He still ate lunch in the cafeteria with all of us. He was very open and nice to everyone. He would always take time to chat with anyone that would walk over to say hello. Great man. When members of the company were kidnapped, he funded and sent his own team to get them out. When he heard one of his own long time employees was sick with cancer, he took care of all the bills and made sure the family was taken care of.

[@omo7002]

Hell yeah Bill Clinton plays the sax!

[@tadstrange1465]

We're Animaniacs!

[@cranjusmcbasketball2052]

*China*

[@winddmmy]

@@cranjusmcbasketball2052 yeah i'm pretty sure he did her too.

[@MrTredBear]

Hell yeah Bill Clinton gets Impeached for lying under oath!

[@Mitch_Rogoff]

There’s bologna in our slacks

[@MonaLisa-fy4hg]

What if: the middle east was able to determine their own borders instead of france and britain doing it for them

[@caniaskyoukindofaweirdques7053]

They’d either be thriving or doing terrible. No in between. Because Britain and France have a tendency of sticking their noses where they don’t belong

[@mghq-mobilegamerzhq2533]

@@caniaskyoukindofaweirdques7053 yeah pretty sure terrorism would not really exist or no where nearly as big, since its the west and USSR and Russian that started and funded them

[@charlesbarkley1173]

Would end in war

[@Garhunt05]

Lots of menial conflicts. That or the Ottoman empire would still exist.

[@omegajordan4002]

he’s already done this

[@aqhat3702]

PLOT TWIST ross was actually jeb bush' semi final form, his loss lead to the 2008 crash and 9/11, in 2016 his defeat lead to the covid-19 pandemic

[@zachstutzman4059]

Damn, we should have clapped.

[@danese1636]

Watching this, I'm remembering the '04 election (I was 3) and seeing my mom with an "I voted sticker" and me asking what a political party is... Now I'm thinking of an alternate scenario where my mom would be talking about that "third party that has miraculously gained enough momentum that it actually holds seats in congress."

[@nathanlevesque7812]

"Reagan era conservative to neoliberal" Same thing

[@wildfire9280]

@@wilhelmseleorningcniht9410 Carter, too. He put healthcare reform on the platform to avoid a primary challenge he'd get later in 1980 and quickly put it off his agenda as he pushed the first major deregulation legislation that dismantled an entire regulatory structure. Something Reagan expressed approval for until he ran of course.

[@TheCriminalViolin]

Conservative to Neoliberal... wait a minute, you mean conservative to extreme conservatism? So the same thing just more severe? - that was my line of thought when he said that lol

[@Crawver]

Yeah, I get the feeling that, while he's certainly done some research on this, his knowledge on modern day political structures lands somewhere in the uncanny valley. It's close, but its' not right. I know he kept saying trumps rhetoric was populist, which it certainly could be argued that it is at times, it's hard to ever look at trump the politician nowadays and think he is a populist. Saying him and Sanders came from the same cloth is...questionable lets' say.

[@WanukeX]

8:05 I Suddenly remembered trumps 2000 run at this moment and had the sudden realization of where this was going. Hoo boy

[@jshadowhunter]

"Nothing Bill did was crazy or exceptional." He bombed Serbia. That could've been avoided.

[@shino4242]

Psshh, presidents bomb places all the time. That's not crazy or exceptional.

[@realspartan5206]

obama bombed syria, truman nuked japan twice, trump bombed that one iraq leader presidents bombing places isn’t special

[@Chaosfragment1809]

@@realspartan5206 truman BOMBS WHO USES BOMBS

[@coolthief8375]

@Despairing Sperg The Last Part of your comment is simply a lie. Trump started off with lots of bombing and then decreased it.

[@louisduarte8763]

Would the ethnic cleansing going on there have ended if we didn't intervene?

[@AshGreen359]

He wasn't a third party, he wasn't in a party at all. First person I ever voted for at 18 If he hadn't dropped from the race and come back, he would have won the popular vote. Though I don't know how you get delegates without a party

[@bolshevikY2K]

>"before Bernie" >it's the 1990's > *laughs in empty house floor speeches*

[@PremierCCGuyMMXVI]

Man we have been feeling the burn for a while

[@tonydai782]

@you're in mandomI mean, at the very least, he is running as a Democrat, which at least gives him a much better shot at presidency than third party. Also, no one plans to lose, there still might've been a chance for Bernie if Warren had just dropped out and endorsed him before super tuesday.

[@fatetestarossa2774]

@you're in mandom Indeed

[@vapid6311]

@you're in mandom Ah yes, the man who tried to reform policy so a gfc could never happen again shills for the establishment. If you hate compromise and don't believe in anything ever getting done, go vote greens.

[@shoam2103]

"before Bernie was a thing" I wonder who else like him we missed out on?

[@professionalamatuer8064]

Frankly I’m surprised more parties haven’t tried throwing in third party candidates to split the vote of the opposition.

[@SkylineFTW97]

How do you know they haven't?

[@professionalamatuer8064]

@@SkylineFTW97 touché

[@benallen7704]

Where the hell do you think Jill Stein came from?

[@peteynutt4104]

voting does nothing. we live in a technocratic plutocracy.

[@boosterh1113]

I don't know about the US , but in Canada, that is actually a crime. I imagine that somewhere in the Byzantine regulations around American politics there has to be some rule against running a false flag candidate.

[@jonathancampbell5231]

"It's rare that a candidate is ever all to do all the things they promised while running" Actually, there was a study that showed that the average President DOES meet around 2/3rds of their campaign promises, and if they fail at the other third it's usually not for lack of trying but simply being foiled by politicians on the other side.

[@boosterh1113]

Yeah, but that is for ordinary presidents, not outsiders. Politics (once you are in office) is the art of making deals and balancing interests. Presidents who have a party machine at their back, especially ones who have worked their way up the ladder, come into office with pre-made political alliance networks and a solid knowledge base about which sub-factions of the parties can be leveraged to action which policies. They will have their hands full with controversial proposals, but they can get a lot of the basics done with minimal fuss by just enlisting their network's support. Outsider candidates lack those advantages (unless the party machine decides to adopt them, a la Mitch McConnell & Trump). For people like Schwarzenegger (or Perot, or probably Sanders), there are no freebies. Every policy they want enacted has to be exhaustively horsetraded with every side; and they are their only champions. They can't rely on lower level powerbrokers expending time, effort, and political capital on their behalf the way a conventional candidate can.

[@anakinskywalker9848]

these videos have the most rewatch value ive ever seen on youtube

[@jasonchen9645]

Im very familiar with pero. I was a teenager then, he made a lot of waves when he entered the race. Oh man, the Dana Carvey SNL skits were hysterical!.

[@DanCooper404]

*Perot

[@tskmaster3837]

"I'm a software salesman. I'm here to fix the government."- Doonesbury, God knows when but it's stuck with me for almost three decades.

[@robertortiz-wilson1588]

Terrible comic strip. Never funny.

[@bluecup1129]

Ross Perot: what are my chances of winning? Dr.Strange: seeing how the public just knows the 2 other candidates better then you it’s 1 out of one never

[@geewhiz23]

Than*🤦‍♂️

[@GeographyCzar]

All Perot would have needed to do was stay in the campaign from start to finish instead of dropping out from June to September. We all loved him, he was winning in June when he suddenly made up a crazy sounding excuse and dropped out for three months.

[@rim6695]

Unfortunately we’d never see two old men with memory loss fighting each other on national television 😔

[@Ostalgie658]

Wait... I thought we did?

[@curranfrank2854]

Biden doesn't have memory loss, nor does he have dementia

[@---uf2zl]

@@curranfrank2854 ikr ? Biden is a legit nice person who suffered stutter and the loss of almost all his family. It bothers me that some are trying to equate him with an asshole like Trump.

[@AureliusLaurentius1099]

@@---uf2zl Lets just ignore the entire 1994 Crime Bill and the fact he advocated invading Iraq as early as 98. And lets ignore how he and Obama bombed more countries than Bush did despite promising not to.

[@---uf2zl]

I really triggered the far right with my comment here. Biden is a moderate, he won and he'll soon be your president. You should accept that and start working with him instead of pushing people away from the right.

[@cantspeakcantspeak79]

*Imagine one protester holding Confederate flags and burning Trump statues* *and a Counter-Protester wearing MAGA hats and holding Trump's healthcare signs* how did we got to here

[@jamesk5541]

Trump doesn't stand for Racism that's the way the left gets there way

[@jasonskeans3327]

@@jamesk5541 he's racist now

[@djmars1983]

@@jasonskeans3327 at least from the left's standpoint everybody is an ist,ism or phobe we all have our labels and will continue to be labeled until the labelers stop

[@djmars1983]

This is why I choose not to go with mainstream Society

[@RequiemPoete]

@@djmars1983 Well conservatives tend to be more discriminatory. They're the ones pushing for anti gay legislation, transphobic measurements and insist there's no difference in how the justice system treats blacks vs whites.

[@alman54]

I remember Ross Perot so well. I was 21 and in college. In the political world, it looked like Bill Clinton was a good contender for President. Then Ross Perot showed up and really shook things up with his approach. My dad especially liked him, and I suspected that he was a favorite he was popular with the older generation. My dad watched those infomercials that consisted mainly of Perot and his charts, and nothing else. I thought they were really boring and I didn't care much for Perot. Then a few months in to the campaign, Perot started acting weird, and there was some sort of conspiracy with his daughter. It's like he dropped from the race, rejoined, then dropped out again. And nobody's heard from him since.

[@retnavybrat]

He passed away in 2019.

[@dmstantastic3653]

I actually used him winning as an alternate history for my book that I'm writing. It doesn't take center stage but acts as an explanation for why things are different in my world lol.

[@gungasc]

Dude you just made a blast from the past! I was too young to vote for him but both my parents did! His 30min “economic classes” taught me a lot! 90’s were hella rad!

[@diamond4k]

When he said that we don’t know who Ross Perot was. I cried inside.

[@ZeroRed78]

My first vote was for Perot. If any of you kids have never seen one of those infomercials, you should check it out. Today's politicians could learn something from such a down to earth approach and the internet makes it where they don't have to be billionaires to buy the TV time today. One thing I'll never forget is him going over healthcare and showing how much less other countries paid for better results. His answer, just do what those countries are doing.

[@MrRapp-yz4hu]

I was a teenager when Perot ran. But nobody I've talked to my age or older remembers him.

[@ellemccormick7725]

"Nothing Bill did was particularly crazy" Screams in GLBA

[@arnox4554]

GLBA definitely had a bigger impact, but the Federal """Assault""" Weapons Ban was also particularly dumb as fuck and annoying.

[@Cjnw]

Normie

[@Odinsday]

He repealed Glass-Stegall, which directly led to the 2008 financial crash.

[@wildfire9280]

Well let's see. GLBA, DOMA, Crime Bill, gutting support for working families, Glass-Steagal... ...Epstein... Oh and let's not forget blocking humanitarian intervention in and even denying the Rwandan Genocide and delaying intervention in Bosnia for a few years. Why do I feel like these would all happen with a Republican in office too?

[@arnox4554]

@@wildfire9280 Depends, but generally, it would happen with a repub in office as well, probably. We all BADLY need to get off of this narrative that one party is worse than the other, and/or, "We can't let the other side win!"

[@Alex-mq6qi]

Every single one of these videos I realize we truly live in the worst timeline

[@bullmoosemedia]

I am still wishing we ended up with a Teddy Roosevelt third term.

[@alw2839]

The worse timeline is the one where the cold war went nuclear not this one...

[@andrasbiro3007]

@@alw2839 2020 isn't over yet, you can still find out that nuclear war would have been the better option.

[@fenhen]

That’s not true at all, our timeline is great compared to all the terrible possibilities.

[@mansonsacidtrip6862]

@@bullmoosemedia I want one where Dems didn't replace FDRs VP with Truman and the 2 terms amendment was never written, we could have cemented a labor legacy of presidents and never engaged in the cold war or the red scare, we would've never seen a Nixon or Reagan presidency and probably would've dodged all of the neoliberalism from the 90's on.

[@rosemulet]

This guy could’ve saved america

[@3dmaster205]

If only he hadn't dropped out at the last second...

[@keenanlarsen1639]

I've heard of Ross Perot, but I was three in 1992, so I had no idea about that election. Thanks for the history