The Abomination of Desolation ... (in Daniel, Jesus, & Paul)

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[@richardrosas912]

What false covenant with Israel? I think that position is assumed into the text of scripture. You just said the covenant being made is the Messianic covenant. Also, You can’t assume Rome “and beyond”. Again, we’re allowing our paradigm of what we think about a “future” return to bring thoughts into the text. The Messianic kingdom is one that would not be destroyed. We know Rome is the fourth beast that’s presented to us in Daniel and that we see present in the NT; I think we’re going beyond what’s written to add “and beyond”. The “lawless one” WAS being restrained which places the “lawless one” who is a man, in the first century.

[@SpotterVideo]

From "Antiquities of the Jews" by Josephus, Book 12, chapter 7 "6. When therefore the generals of Antiochus's armies had been beaten so often, Judas assembled the people together, and told them, that after these many victories which God had given them, they ought to go up to Jerusalem, and purify the temple, and offer the appointed sacrifices. But as soon as he, with the whole multitude, was come to Jerusalem, and found the temple deserted, and its gates burnt down, and plants growing in the temple of their own accord, on account of its desertion, he and those that were with him began to lament, and were quite confounded at the sight of the temple; so he chose out some of his soldiers, and gave them order to fight against those guards that were in the citadel, until he should have purified the temple. When therefore he had carefully purged it, and had brought in new vessels, the candlestick, the table [of shew-bread], and the altar [of incense], which were made of gold, he hung up the veils at the gates, and added doors to them. He also took down the altar [of burnt-offering], and built a new one of stones that he gathered together, and not of such as were hewn with iron tools. So on the five and twentieth day of the month Casleu, which the Macedonians call Apeliens, they lighted the lamps that were on the candlestick, and offered incense upon the altar [of incense], and laid the loaves upon the table [of shew-bread], and offered burnt-offerings upon the new altar [of burnt-offering]. Now it so fell out, that these things were done on the very same day on which their Divine worship had fallen off, and was reduced to a profane and common use, after three years' time; for so it was, that the temple was made desolate by Antiochus, and so continued for three years. This desolation happened to the temple in the hundred forty and fifth year, on the twenty-fifth day of the month Apeliens, and on the hundred fifty and third olympiad: but it was dedicated anew, on the same day, the twenty-fifth of the month Apeliens, on the hundred and forty-eighth year, and on the hundred and fifty-fourth olympiad. And this desolation came to pass according to the prophecy of Daniel, which was given four hundred and eight years before; for he declared that the Macedonians would dissolve that worship [for some time]. 7. Now Judas celebrated the festival of the restoration of the sacrifices of the temple for eight days, and omitted no sort of pleasures thereon; but he feasted them upon very rich and splendid sacrifices; and he honored God, and delighted them by hymns and psalms. Nay, they were so very glad at the revival of their customs, when, after a long time of intermission, they unexpectedly had regained the freedom of their worship, that they made it a law for their posterity, that they should keep a festival, on account of the restoration of their temple worship, for eight days. And from that time to this we celebrate this festival, and call it Lights. I suppose the reason was, because this liberty beyond our hopes appeared to us; and that thence was the name given to that festival. Judas also rebuilt the walls round about the city, and reared towers of great height against the incursions of enemies, and set guards therein. He also fortified the city Bethsura, that it might serve as a citadel against any distresses that might come from our enemies. " Josephus confirms above the understanding of the Jews of his time, who knew that Daniel had predicted the events of 167 BC, by Antiochus Epiphanes. Josephus confirms it as a historical fact. Josephus said the event occurred 408 years after Daniel recorded the prophecy. John 10:22 is a reference to the celebration of Hanukkah each year by the Jews of Jesus time. The Book of Matthew was addressed mainly to a Jewish audience. Jesus was telling the Jews of His time that something similar to 167 BC would happen during 70 AD. Not only did Antiochus desecrate the temple, but he also attacked the city killing thousands of Jews and stopped the temple sacrifices. The temple sacrifices would also stop in 70 AD, due to the destruction of the temple. Based on John 10:22, the Jews were well aware of this historical fulfillment of Daniel’s prophecy. Luke’s Gospel was written to more of a Gentile audience, so he spelled it out for them. Matthew 24:15-16 and Luke 21:20-21 are clearly parallel accounts because of the common word elements in both passages. We also have the same reference to flee in the second verse in each Gospel.

[@tonyw7570]

@@SpotterVideo a peterist view?

[@SpotterVideo]

@@tonyw7570 No. Luke 21:20-24a is about 70 AD. Luke 21:24b-28 is about the future Second Coming of Christ. Multiple Second Coming Visions in Revelation: (book not in chronological order ) Christ returns one time in the future. However, there are several different visions of His return shown from different perspectives in the Book of Revelation. Christ returns at the end of Revelation chapter 6, with signs in the sun, moon, and stars, as are found in the Olivet Discourse. Those at the end of the chapter are hiding from the wrath of the Lamb. Why would they be hiding if Christ is not present? The "kings", "captains", "might men", "free", and "bond" are also found in chapter 19 at the return of Christ. The wicked city in Revelation 11:8 stands in opposition to the heavenly city in Revelation 3:12. He returns at the 7th trumpet, which is the last trumpet in the Bible, and the time of the judgment of the dead in Revelation 11:15-18. The beginning of chapter 12 is a history lesson containing the fall of Satan, and the birth and death of Christ, who is the seed promised to crush the head of Satan in Genesis 3:15. The Second Coming is found in the "harvest" of chapter 14, which is related to the parable of the wheat and tares in Matthew chapter 13. He comes as a thief at Armageddon, and we find the greatest earthquake in history in chapter 16. This occurs when the 7th angel pours out his vial. How powerful is an earthquake which moves islands and destroys the mountains? What is happening to the planet? He comes on a horse in chapter 19, right after the Marriage Supper of the Lamb. Chapter 20? Does He come with the fire, and the judgment of the dead at the end of chapter 20, which agrees with what Paul said in 2 Thessalonians 1:7-10, and 2 Timothy 4:1? What did Peter say about the fire in 2 Peter 3:10-13? (The time of the judgment of the dead is also found in Revelation 11:18.) There are no mortals left alive on the planet at the end of Matthew 25:31-46. Why does an angel come down from heaven with a key to unlock the bottomless pit in Revelation 9:1-2, if the pit was not already locked before that time? Are there wicked angels in the pit in Rev. 9:11? If the beast "ascends" from the pit in Rev. chapter 11, where was the beast before that time? Does your view agree with Peter in 2 Pet. 2:4, and Jude in Jude 1:6, when they both said wicked angels are already in chains of darkness? Revelation 9:14 proves some of the angels were previously bound in some manner. Because the two witnesses were bodily resurrected from the dead in Revelation 11, the "first resurrection" at the beginning of Revelation 20 is not the first bodily resurrection in the book. The principle of "Recapitulation" means there are multiple visions of His return.

[@WNC2022]

Hi Brother. You covered a lot , you are correct in that no one seems to know for sure how to interpret these scriptures concerning the abomination of desolation which God's word speaks of. Just the fact that there are so many opinions is proof positive that God has not yet revealed everything there is to know 🙂 I think that you do see one thing that not many see. That third temple ? Weather the Jews who rejected their Messiah build it or not does not matter , it will have nothing to do with what the scriptures say concerning the abomination. For the Jews to sacrifice animals blood on an altar would be an abomination , but it is not "THE ABOMINATION ". Man basically has a hard time believing what he has not seen with his eyes. When man tries to interpret God's word , he does a lot of insinuating of what he thinks God is trying to say. He tries to help God out , to make since of what his word says , but he is blinded because of his unbelief and Because God has been protecting something that is very precious to Him. If we take God's word as literal , that being that he says what he says , then the following verses make perfect since and reveals to us what the abomination is...... ( BTW , KJV only English Bible not tainted God has proven this to us. All the other English new testaments are tainted. We can only trust the KJV , the Hebrew Torah and the original Greek new testament writings of course.) * Leviticus 17:11 For the life of the flesh is in the blood; and I have given it to you upon the altar to make atonement for your souls: for it is the blood that maketh atonement by reason of the life. * Daniel 8:11-14 Yea, he magnified himself even to the prince of the host, and by him the daily sacrifice was taken away, and the place of his sanctuary was cast down. And an host was given him against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practiced, and prospered. Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot? And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed. * Mathew 24:14-21 And this gospel will be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations ; and then shall the end come. When you see the abomination of desolation , spoken of by Daniel the prophet , stand in the holy place , whoso readeth , let him understand. * Isaiah 24:5 The earth also is defiled under the inhabitants thereof ; because they have transgresses the laws , changed the ordinance , broken the everlasting covenant. * Ezekiel 7:22 My face will I turn also from them , and they shall pollute my secret place for the robbers shall enter into it , and defile it. God's Holy place within this earthly realm is and has always been above the mercy seat between the cherubim. When Gabriel came to inform Daniel of God's 70 weeks ? Did Gabriel not know what the Messiah was come to do ? Shalom ✌

[@ClintonBrownell]

Believe as you like but I gave the AOD PROPHECY. Also, the KJV Bible is a "mason" Bible. It's the best for those who speak English BUT it is FLAWED. The End Days FLAWS of the 1611 KJV can be corrected with the Tyndale 1534 Bible. (PROPHET)

[@Unique_Monk]

Iron is the Roman Empire Feet of iron and clay is the Roman and Jewish empire combined that persecuted Christians and were both responsible for the death of Yeshua

[@tonyw7570]

Or possibly our interpretation about Rome is incorrect. Interesting its the only beast not named. Maybe it will become apparent in the last days, Dan 12 4, and then will be revealed. And maybe it's not Rome, but the Ottoman empire, yet to reformed. After all they are the brothers of Esau and Ishmael. Surely this is about the family of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Read the blessings of Isaac, Ishmael, Jacob and Esau. Those hold the key. Then Jer 49, Obadiah, Malachi 1.

[@Unique_Monk]

@ The last days was about the end of the Jews in Jerusalem - the end of the covenant - the destruction of the temple Yeshua - Olivet discourse - revelation - Daniel - all about the same events

[@tonyw7570]

@@Unique_Monk Problem I see with that is, if it is prophecy for the future, you won't see it, and will miss the events (signs) as they happen. The more i read scripture, the more prophesy of the future I see. I believe our God wrote the scripture in such a way, that it would be helpful to each age, and if this is the time of the end, (i believe it is) then more especially it will be for us to understand as we go through the times ahead.

[@Unique_Monk]

@ yes, the future - but NOT OUR FUTURE You are reading it wrong It was written 2000+ yrs ago - it was future to the people reading it then Revelation and Yeshua clearly stated it was ABOUT to happen - it was coming SOON to them it was soon but future To us it’s PAST

[@Unique_Monk]

@ Please provide evidence not your thoughts - what you think is irrelevant as is what I think - it’s what we know with the facts that matter What is future re us except Rev 20:7 onwards

[@Livefreelivesteong87]

Just started watching. This will be good im sure

[@MarkNorthAveChurch]

Thanks for watching!

[@mariechristine6676]

Merci beaucoup pour vos explications. J'apprécie beaucoup votre chaîne qui expose la théologie à laquelle j'adhère. En effet, ma compréhension de la fin des temps est amillénariste. Merci pour tous vos sermons et vos études. Juste un question : ne pensez-vous pas que ce qui retient l'homme d'iniquité c'est la ligature de Satan que Jésus a accomplie à la Croix, lorsqu'il a lié l'homme fort ? Et on sait, grâce à l'Apocalypse, qu'il sera relâché pour un peu de temps. Que Dieu vous garde 🙏

[@makarov138]

The prince of the people who is to come was Titus, the leader over the Roman armies. "When the power of the holy people is shattered, Dan 12:7, ALL THESE THINGS would be accomplished." When were the holy people shattered? By the Roman Armies in 70 AD. ALL was then accomplished.

[@MarkNorthAveChurch]

That is definitely a possible interpretation! If that’s true, and it could be (I’ve read a pretty good defense of this position before), it doesn’t fundamentally change my interpretation of vv. 26-27.

[@justingentry85]

There is no indication the prince is a different prince from a verse or two earlier. Both instances of the word refer to the same Messiah. God elsewhere in the Bible speaks of powerful pagan armies as "his" in the sense that he uses them to accomplish his purposes.

[@MarkNorthAveChurch]

@@justingentry85I agree that the most convicting interpretation is that both uses of “anointed one” and “prince” all most likely refer to Christ. I’m less convinced “the people of the prince who is to come” refers to Rome’s army who destroy the city, although I suppose that’s not impossible. I prefer to think it’s the Jewish people who are the people of the prince. They are the ones *responsible* before God for Rome destroying Jerusalem. Therefore I don’t think it’s too much of a stretch to attribute the destruction to them for rejecting Messiah.

[@MarkNorthAveChurch]

@@justingentry85 Thoughts about that interpretation?

[@justingentry85]

@@MarkNorthAveChurch the anointed one in dan9.24-27 is the prince who was cut off while making a strong covenant with the many. This same Messiah "the prince" ALSO sends his army city to destroy the city. Titus and his army were instruments being used in 70AD as the Messiah's tool for bringing judgement. Recall also that in the ancient world when a king would send an ambassador to someone that ambassador was to be treated as if he was the king. The city's destruction was sealed as a direct result of cutting off Messiah in 30AD.

[@justingentry85]

People like to speculate about the toes of the statue but ignore the fact it would have had 10 fingers, 2 ears, 6 abs, etc.

[@MarkNorthAveChurch]

It reminds me of one of the most important hermeneutical keys in Bible study: The less clear texts should not control how we interpret the clear texts. Those who take the more obscure details and make them central to their interpretation are most likely to go astray ... and they usually do so quite quickly.

[@tonyw7570]

@justingentry85 The scripture appears to give clues as to who the 10 toes may be. Psalm 83. It also includes nations that may be delivered. Dan 7.24, Dan 11.41. Deut 2.8, Deut 28.3,7

[@justingentry85]

@@tonyw7570 how in the world do you get that out of psalm83? There's no way Daniels audience would have made that connection.

[@tonyw7570]

@justingentry85 There appears to be 10 nations grouped there. Included in those nations are three nation mentioned in Dan 11.41 Edom, Moab, Ammon. The reason why is explained in Deut 28. The may also be the three nation mentioned in Dan 7.24. Don't forget we are probably also Daniel's audience.

[@wesleyyork3384]

Good teaching, makes so much since the 70 weeks is not broken up. Thank you

[@MarkNorthAveChurch]

Thanks! I’m glad you found it helpful.

[@tonyw7570]

@@wesleyyork3384 unless it is.

[@ClintonBrownell]

Little more GOSPEL... More Scripture support for the "false messiah" PROPHECY FULFILLED Daniel 7:8 KJV I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things. ---- “three of the first horns plucked up by the roots” KINGS 1,2,3 Rev 17:10 Daniel 7:20 KJV And of the ten horns that were in his head, and of the other which came up, and before whom three fell; even of that horn that had eyes, and a mouth that spake very great things, whose look was more stout than his fellows. ---- “before whom three fell” KINGS 1,2,3 Rev 17:10 ----"whose look was more stout than his fellows" defines TRUMP Daniel 7:24 KJV And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings. ---- “he shall subdue three kings” Bush (King 4), John McCain (King), John Podesta (King). Remember TRUMP (Antichrist) killed BUSH, McCAIN, and "subdued" PODESTA within minutes after taking office.. Revelation 13:3 KJV And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast. --”one of his heads as it were wounded to death” King 1 (JFK) NOTE: Daniel 7,8,11,12 deal with End Times, not Daniel 9 which deals with TIME of the FLOOD. (Prophet) (Watchman for the Last Generation)

[@jorgeb6953]

I believe the “man of lawlessness” was the “high priest”, and the thing that was restraining him was the Roman government.

[@Jerry.dickerson1]

Have you seen our current president?

[@makarov138]

So, how do you interpret MT 10:23? Doesn't it say that the coming of the Lord would occur BEFORE those guys got through going over the cities of Israel. In other words, in their lifetime.

[@MarkNorthAveChurch]

That’s a very hard passage to be sure about! When I preached on it, I slightly leaned toward it being 70 AD. Now I’m wondering if it’s the second coming and simply signally that the Jewish mission will continue until Jesus comes in the end. What do you think?

[@makarov138]

@@MarkNorthAveChurch It's not hard to understand at all! It's a clearly unambiguous factual statement. Your futurist perspective has you completely blinded and unable to see the truth. The coming of the Lord would occur BEFORE they all died! It's that simple. And what about MT 16:27, 28? Two entirely unambiguous statements by our Saviour. "For the Son of Man is about to come with his angels in the glory of his Father, and then he will repay everyone for what has been done. 28 Truly I tell you, there are some standing here who will not taste death before they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom." His coming would occur before THEY all died out! No guessing here! And it certainly could not apply to that next week event, because nobody had died! And "taste of death" is defined in scripture for us in Heb2:9 "but we do see Jesus, who for a little while was made lower than the angels, now crowned with glory and honour because of the suffering of death, so that by the grace of God he might TASTE DEATH for everyone." What happened to Jesus? He was KILLED! And so, "taste death" means to physically die. All of those guys would not die before the coming of the Lord! Sir, that is confirmed by the word of our Lord! Do no deny what Jesus said!

[@calebmathison5394]

@MarkNorthAveChurch Josephus, as a 1st-hand account, historically indicated his own people fulfilled this prophecy, being both directly and indirectly responsible for destroying Jerusalem and setting the fires that consumed the Temple. Given the 200 pages of tragic details he wrote, and being a faithful witness, no one should presume Jesus' declaration of unparalleled great tribulation weren't fulfilled.

[@ScottyHaywood84]

When do you believe the start of the 70 weeks began? And who issued the decree? Dan 9:25

[@MarkNorthAveChurch]

I’ve gone back and forth on this. Perhaps the beginning of Jesus’s earthly ministry (His baptism) is when the 70th week begins. I’m not dogmatic on that, but it makes some sense.

[@MarkNorthAveChurch]

Cyrus’s decree around 538 BC makes the most sense for the origination of the decree. If that’s correct, then the 490 “years” may not be meant with strict literalism. However, if the years are literal, then it would have to be the later recommissioning of the decree. I’m not sure.

[@tonyw7570]

Why don't believers read scripture and especially prophecy as in the future. Why would our God be so interested in history rather than in us, now.

[@ScottyHaywood84]

@@MarkNorthAveChurch I agree. Isaiah 44:28 and 45:13 seem to make it pretty clear that the decree being referred to is that of Cyrus. But thanks for tackling these verses. There are not enough resources on Daniel 9 outside of the Dispensational view. Kim Riddlebarger has some excellent articles explaining his view of Daniel 9, but he doesn't think Jesus is the anointed one in vv. 26-27.

[@mytwocents777]

God's decree for the restoration and rebuilding of Jerusalem was regarded as having been fulfilled collectively in the decrees of Cyrus, Darius and Artaxerxes Longimanus. This is indicated in Zechariah 6:14: "And the elders of the Jews builded, and they prospered through the prophesying of Haggai the prophet and Zechariah the son of Iddo. And they builded, and finished it, according to the commandment of the God of Israel, and according to the commandment of Cyrus, and Darius, and Artaxerxes king of Persia." Of those three kings' decrees, the only one whose date can be regarded as having been the starting date of the 490 years and actually have met the timing of the events (those involving Christ's baptism, His and the apostles' 7-year collective period of ministry, His causing the covenant to be confirmed, and crucifixion in the middle of that 7 years which obsoleted the temple sacrifices from God's perspective) that were prophesied and did occur in Daniel 9:24-27 is that of Artaxerxes in his 7th year, ca. 457 B.C. We need not look further than that king's decree, i.e. to consider his subsequent permit to Nehemiah to return to Jerusalem in 444 B.C., as his first decree was sufficient to constitute a decree from each of the three kings mentioned in Zechariah, and the 444 date, even after attempting to compress the time period by counting in 360-day years, as is attempted by Dispensationalism to fit its detached 70th week myth, causes "unto Messiah" to arrive at nearly the moment of His death, which is inconsistent with a natural understanding of the prophecy. Counting in real (solar) years from 457 B.C., we arrive, at the 483rd year (69th week), at the time of Jesus' baptism and the start of His ministry. It is well understood that His and the apostles' ministry exclusively in Israel lasted about seven years and that He was crucified 3.5 years into it ("after" the 69th week, i.e. in the midst of the 70th).

[@logos37]

Thanks Pastor for this Midweek support study...You did have that Theological Unction. Thanks

[@MarkNorthAveChurch]

Thank you for the encouraging words!

[@jasonknudsen8653]

If there is no temple than what is being sacrificed to be ceased?

[@MarkNorthAveChurch]

I think the reference to sacrifices ceasing in Daniel 9:26-27 refers to Jesus's death making animal sacrifices unecessary. The later destruction of the temple in 70 AD also made animal sacrifice impossible. When I was refering to the church as a possible referent for "the temple of God," I was thinking of 2 Thessalonians 2. In that text, I doubt Paul is referencing an event that will take place in a supposed third temple in our future. Does that make sense?

[@davidschrodt507]

@@MarkNorthAveChurch I agree with you. The greatest abomination would be the willful acceptance of the man of sin...taking the rightful place where God should sit enthroned....in our hearts. “Do you not know that your bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own;” ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭6‬:‭19‬ ‭ And you are living stones that God is building into his spiritual temple. What’s more, you are his holy priests. Through the mediation of Jesus Christ, you offer spiritual sacrifices that please God. 1 Peter 2:5 “In him the whole building is joined together and rises to become a holy temple in the Lord. And in him you too are being built together to become a dwelling in which God lives by his Spirit.” ‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭2‬:‭21‬-‭22‬ ‭NIV‬‬ 2 Thess 2 says “He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God.” ‭‭2 Thessalonians‬ ‭2‬:‭4

[@tgzhou]

Great message! However, I have one question. If both 26b and 27b refer to AD 70, then they extend beyond the 70 weeks, which makes me feel a bit uneasy since the prophecy is supposed to only cover 70 weeks.

[@MarkNorthAveChurch]

Correct! That's a good point. I believe the cutting off of the Messiah takes place in the middle of the 70th week, thus ending animal sacrifice. But the final destruction of the temple would then take place outside of the 70 weeks in this view. There are no time indicators for the city's destruction. I would say that the "people of the prince who is to come" would be the Jewish people and them calling for the death of the Messiah caused Him to be "cut off and have nothing (v. 26). However, the destruction takes place within that generation, but not until 70 AD after the 70 weeks are finished. However, some of these interpretative decisions I've changed on in the past few years.

[@justingentry85]

A couple things to keep in mind. The text does not say the actual destruction would occur during the 70 weeks, just God's final decision that the city would be destroyed. The rejection of the Messiah in 30AD sealed the fate of the city to come later. When Jesus was crucified he asked the father to forgive them, which could have contributed to God allowing 40 years for repentance. Adam sinned in Eden and was counted as being dead despite living another 900 years. His fate was sealed at the sin.

[@MarkNorthAveChurch]

@@justingentry85I agree entirely with what you’re saying about the timing of the end of the 70th week and the *later* destruction of the city in AD 70.

[@mytwocents777]

The 490 years was only the time period during which the five events mentioned in verse 9:24 were slated to occur. 9:26 and 27 are mutually parallel verses describing the cause::effect paradigm of "Messiah crucified::city and sanctuary destroyed".

[@tgzhou]

@@MarkNorthAveChurch Thank you

[@byronumphress3805]

John 14:6, Jesus did it, also He said, John 14:26, The Holy Spirit was to come, so if Jesus can do it , do can The Holy Spirit ! Shalom

[@stumpintheearth1088]

Excellent study. Although, just like the parables, scripture is trying to teach us the spiritual, not carnal aspect of God's Kingdom. For instance we know from Scripture that the city of Jerusalem, is in truth and importance, his people, the bride of Christ. Revelation 21:2 And I John saw *the holy city, new Jerusalem,* coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as *a bride adorned for her husband.*

[@MarkNorthAveChurch]

Are you referncing how Paul uses the phrase "temple of God" to refer to church rather than the physical temple in Jerusalem in his letters?

[@stumpintheearth1088]

@ The Temple of God is us, his people. 1Corintians 3:16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?

[@ClintonBrownell]

PROPHECY: The ABOMINATION of DESOLATION Mark 13:14 KJV But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains: Matthew 24:15 KJV When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:) A spiritual clue. A difficult clue for ALL, agreed. The Antichrist controls the “nations” today. ABOMINATION is the MAN. The Antichrist DESOLATION is Gomorrah ”stand in the holy place” is your 3 rd Temple. The Antichrist will destroy “Babylon” under the guise of WW3. He has already made multiple threats but none see. The Antichrist will become KING 8 (Rev 17:11) FULFULLIING SCRIPTURE The Antichrist will move his “new” Dominion “seat” from Babylon to Gomorrah just 300 miles from MOUNT ZION and home of the LDS CHURCH. During this time he will reveal his CHURCH, the LDS. (Gadreel was MORONI, there is NO MORONI) The Antichrist has representation in Sodom and Sodom has a Pyramid (nice touch). Gomorrah is not far from Sodom on the big map. ---- When the Antichrist first sits in his new “seat” Scripture is FULFILLED. Jesus may come at any MOMENT after. Daniel 11:45 KJV And he shall plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the glorious holy mountain; yet he shall come to his end, and none shall help him. ---- Gomorrah is “between the seas” the Pacific & Atlantic Rev 18:21 KJV And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all. ----Spiritual “Babylon” is Washington DC ----Spiritual “Sodom” is Las Vegas ----Spiritual “Gomorrah” is Salt Lake City ----Antichrist is “Gadreel” or TRUMP ----"bottomless pit" is in NYC where Twin Towers stood Eze 33:31-33 KJV And they come unto thee as the people cometh, and they sit before thee as my people, and they hear thy words, but they will not do them: for with their mouth they shew much love, but their heart goeth after their covetousness. And, lo, thou art unto them as a very lovely song of one that hath a pleasant voice, and can play well on an instrument: for they hear thy words, but they do them not. And when this cometh to pass, (lo, it will come,) then shall they know that a prophet hath been among them. (PROPHET) (Watchman for this LAST GENERATION)

[@tonyw7570]

@ClintonBrownell Scripture doesn't seem to revolve around the USA. It probably has more to do with the Middle East, and the descendsnts of Abrsgam, Isaac, and Jacob.

[@ClintonBrownell]

@@tonyw7570 End Days Prophecies are about AMERICA. "Mystery Babylon" is Washington DC "Sodom" is Las Vegas "Gomorrah" is Salt Lake City "ALL KINGS" of Rev 17:10-11 are AMERICAN "ANTICHRIST" is AMERICAN. TRUMP was KING 6 and is now KING 8 of Rev 17:10-11 CONFIRMING he is the ANTICHRIST "bottomless pit" is in NYC where the Twin Towers once stood. Opened in 2001 (911) releasing the "False Prophet" and "Apollyon", this is SEAL 4 of Rev 6. Rev 9:11 KJV (yes 911) And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon. Hope this helps you see. (PROPHET)

[@ClintonBrownell]

@@tonyw7570 I responded but I don't see it. "Babylon" is Washington DC "Sodom" is Las Vegas "Gomorrah" is Salt Lake City "bottomless pit" is in NYC and was opened in 2001 (911) releasing the "False Prophet" and "Apollyon". This is SEAL 4 of Rev 6. "ALL KINGS" of Rev 17:10-11 are AMERICAN "ANTICHIRST" is AMERICAN End Times is DEFINITELY about AMERICA (PROPHET)

[@lukebenner9860]

So Jesus breaks the covanent, but then the same 'he' sets up the abomination and that is Titus? What causes it to be read this way? Is it anything other than history that we try to fit the text to?

[@MarkNorthAveChurch]

Good question! It’s important to note that Daniel 9:27 does not state that the covenant made there is broken. Dispensationalists assume the covenant is made between Antichrist and ethnic Israel and that the cutting off of animal sacrifices half way through the 70th week is Antichrist breaking the covenant. But nowhere is the covenant said to be broken. I think the “he” of v 27 is “the messiah, the prince who is to come” from vv 25-26. The ending of animal sacrifices halfway through the 70th week refers to the effect of Christ’s death (the death was which was just referenced in v. 26). Therefore the “covenant” this Messiah makes is the new covenant through His death. What are your thoughts?

[@lukebenner9860]

@MarkNorthAveChurch I find it hard to separate these verses about the 70th week from the similar verses in chapter 11. The events of 11:23 (covanent) seem to connect to 9:27. Then it is followed by 11:31(AoD) and 11:45(His death). This sequence and events have similar wording to the seventy week. Why is this not a higher likelihood than your take? This would require it all to be the same person.

[@charlespoe5155]

Someone shared this with me. Could the pronoun ‘he’ be referring to the previous noun, Messiah from v26 The prince is Messiah is the same as in v25 which declares the arrival of Messiah the Prince. The ‘he’ of Daniel 9:27 cannot be pointing to the “people of the prince” in v26 as the “people” don’t qualify as a “he”. The prince does not qualify as the term is only used to describe “the people” so it is not antecedent because it doesn’t point to a specific person. It’s the Messiah who is the only “he” who qualifies. He confirms (something that already existed) with his blood, the new covenant

[@lukebenner9860]

@charlespoe5155 I think it is perfectly fine to read it like this: Then the people of the (he) to come will destroy the city and sanctuary. Moreover, I would take a departure from what Mark was saying and give room for time in-between the 62 and the last week. In 26 it says "After the 62" this would mean that the destruction of the city has to happen before the prince to come arrives. Then the prince to come makes a covanent for the last week.

[@charlespoe5155]

@ It makes no sense for the Father to call it a 70 week prophecy if it’s not fulfilled in 70 consecutive weeks. It is illogical when it’s one consecutive block of time seventy straight sequential weeks. “Give room for time in between 62 and the last week” No gap mentioned, referred to, implied, or remotely hinted at, anywhere in the prophecy. 7 weeks - seven sevens (49years) to rebuild the city of Jerusalem. 62 weeks (434 years) during which were 400 years of silence from the prophets until messiahs arrival. Last week (7years) time when messiah carried out his ministry and died for our sins (in the midst) as the gospel was proclaimed to the Jews first. Confirms a covenant (something that already exist). 70 weeks Fulfilled during 457 BC to 34 AD. When reading Dan 9:24-27 Does it mention a 2,000 year gap in between week 69 and week 70? No it doesn’t. Or a building of a third temple? No Titus refers to Dan 12 the abomination of desolation of the Roman army destroying desolating the second temple in 70ad.

[@ClintonBrownell]

More GOSPEL... detailed Further explaining the SIGN of the TIMES and PROPHECY FULIFLLED Revelation 17:10-11 … (Explained)…”AND ONE IS” Rev 17:10 KJV And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space. ---- “five are fallen’ the first 5 have lost their Dominion. ---- “and one is” this is from 2016 to 2020. That is TRUMP who carries Gadreel, he has Dominion. ----- “and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space. This is BIDEN. Biden carries Apollyon. Both Apollyon and False Prophet will be taken SOON, before his end of office. This is how we know Rev 17:10-11 is for TODAY and not hundreds of years ago like you’re being told by False Prophets. ”AND ONE IS” … remember it, it’s IMPORTANT. It “pinpoints” the Antichrist also. Was it supposed too, perhaps? Rev 17:11 KJV And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition. ---- “and is of the seven” means he is one of the 7 KINGS of Rev 17:10 ---- This tells us that KING 8 is one of the 7 NAMES. Kings 1 thru 4 are DEAD. King 5 is not running for office. King 7 will be taken SOON. That leaves KING 6 or TRUMP. Daniel 7:20 KJV (confirms) And of the ten horns that were in his head, and of the other which came up, and before whom three fell; even of that horn that had eyes, and a mouth that spake very great things, whose look was more stout than his fellows. ---- “whose look was more STOUT than his fellows” confirms TRUMP Hope this helps some, (Prophet) (Watchman for this Last Generation)

[@jaspin555]

Really good video! Its rare to hear someone understand that the prince who is the come is the Messiah instead of Antichrist and that messiah is cut off in the middle of the 70th week. Its the way I've understood it for a while that way. One other thing, most hold to a final 7 year tribulation, but 3.5 makes much more sense. So I do believe that the 70th week is unfinished, and that is the various wordings of 3.5 years occur so much throughout revelation. The reason in my view that there must be a final period of tribulation and Antichrist is that the bulk of revelation is about this period, and I believe a late dating of the book is almost certain, meaning it cannot be referring to 70ad.

[@MarkNorthAveChurch]

Thanks for watching and interacting! I do think the connection to Revealtion is tricky here. I used to think Daniel's 70 weeks were symbolic and that the last week was the entire church age. I thought that for several reasons, but one of which is that I am still convinced that the 3.5 year periods (1,260 days; time, times, and half a time; 42 months; etc.) in Revelation 11-13 all refer to the entire church age. I say that because that time period begins with the ascension in Revelation 12:5-6. I don't believe a gap is implied here and I think the woman is not simply ethnic Israel, but the Messianic people (which, after Pentecost, will include Gentiles believers as well; i.e., the church). This period also ends with the end of the Beast's reign (which I would put at Christ's return (Rev 19:20).

[@MarkNorthAveChurch]

So I think Revelation is borrowing the three and a half year periods from Daniel, which itself is modeled largely on Antiochus's reign of terror from 167-164 BC. Revelation is not using this time markers literally, since it rarely uses numbers merely literally. Rather, I think John in Revelation is speaking of the church age like time of difficult described in Daniel during the 3.5 year period then. Does that make sense?

[@jaspin555]

@MarkNorthAveChurch I agree that revelation is largely metaphorical, and I do believe many of the events apply to the whole church age. but I also see a likely final fulfillment that is more literal in nature, happening right before the return of Jesus. generally, I would fall in the historic premill post tribulation camp.

[@MarkNorthAveChurch]

@@jaspin555I can respect that! Have you heard of or read Grant Osborne on Revelation? He’s probably close to your position.

[@jaspin555]

@MarkNorthAveChurch I have not, thanks for the recommendation I will definitely check it out!

[@Unique_Monk]

Daniel 8 9And out of one of them came forth a little horn, which waxed exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land. 10And it waxed great, even to the host of heaven; and it cast down some of the host and of the stars to the ground, and stamped upon them. 11Yea, he magnified himself even to the prince of the host, and by him the daily sacrifice was taken away, and the place of his sanctuary was cast down. Antiochus is this horn and he sacrificed a pig in the temple The selucid empire

[@tonyw7570]

Or is it talking about a future period, talking to his saints today about what is to come to pass in our time.

[@Unique_Monk]

@ It literally mentions Greece The man of sin, lawlessness is different John of Gischala was he, who stood in the temple declaring he was above God A zealot leader who was an instigator in the civil war that led to the massacre of 1.1 million Jews - finished by the romans - who then destroyed the abomination - the temple

[@tonyw7570]

So what is Dan 8.17,19, and 26 saying about the goat/ram vision. Nothing to do with the past, it's prophecy for the Future. It's all to do with the descendants of Abraham and Isaac.

[@alonewoof8769]

abomination without desolation an emptied vessel with god

[@StevePhillips777]

1) I'm not sure the 4th kingdom is Rome as it has ten toes and in Revelation we find ten kings and ten kingdoms which may be that the world is already divided up into world economic regions before the antichrist arrives and are not regional, but global. The antichrist according to Revelation will appoint 10 leaders (Kings) to supervise the 10 regions. (Daniel 2:39 : And another third kingdom of brass which shall bear rule over all the earth) 2) It's possible that the last days antichrist will come out of Greece and have Medo-Persia (Modern day Iran) and Babylon (Modern day Iraq) and these three nations will work together. 3) If the last days consists of Rome too then why isn't Rome mentioned in Revelation 13 verses 1-2? "And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads (may be the 7 continents) and ten horns (world divided into 10 global regions) and upon his horns 10 crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy. And the beast (antichrist) which I saw was like unto a leopard (Alexander the Great) and his feet were as the feet of a bear (possible reference to Iran) and his mouth of a lion (possible reference to Iraq) and the dragon gave him his power and great authority. 4) The antichrist is a king who lived before the Roman Empire. Revelation 13 verses 1-2 gives no indication at all that Rome is part of the future antichrist kingdom. 5) Revelation chapter 17 we find an angel explaining to John the Revelator about the beast (antichrist) that carries the woman who of course represents the false church of Babylon who kills the prophets and saints of Jesus Christ. Revelation chapter 17 verse 8, "The beast that thou sawest was (was once alive) and is not: (at the time John was receiving this message the antichrist was dead and in the bottomless pit, hell) and shall ASCEND out of the bottomless pit and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that WAS, AND IS NOT, (At the time John was receiving this information during the Roman occupation the antichrist was already dead) and YET IS. 6) In Daniel chapter 8 almost the entire chapter is speaking about Alexander the Great. When does the antichrist arrive? Daniel chapter 8 verse 23 tells us. "And in the latter time of their kingdom (at the end of days, speaking about Greece) when transgressors are come to the full, (when sinners have run their course as it did in the days of Noah and Lot) a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences (he will have occult knowledge and in the last days according to Revelation the antichrist and his father the devil will both be worshiped by unbelievers) shall stand up." 7) Iran hates Israel and America and would like to see us destroyed. I'm sure there are many in Iraq that hate us too for attacking them during the Iraq war. I believe the Bible is telling us in Revelation 13:2 that the beast will be Greece (Alexander the Great) and Iran and Iraq. However later many more nations as Revelation 6:2 tells us "And I saw and behold a white horse, and he that sat on him had a bow and a crown was given unto him, AND HE WENT FORTH CONQUERING AND TO CONQUER". (The antichrist along with Iraq and Iran will go forth conquering nations and the antichrist intentions will be for further conquests) 8) Maybe you don't believe the antichrist is currently in the bottomless pit (hell). Here is another verse that proves he is. Revelation 11:7 "And when they ( the two Jewish Prophets) shall have finished their testimony, the beast (antichrist) THAT ASCENDETH OUT OF THE BOTTOMLESS PIT SHALL MAKE WAR AGAINST THEM AND SHALL OVERCOME THEM AND KILL THEM".

[@logos37]

U said all of detailed info...it appears i suppose u hav studied heavily of the Dispen. PREMILL camp. Im not versed in any camp i simply follow what is so hated Amill ...replacement which is totally misunderstood. SIR YOU would need to check out this churches' cov. Theo. Study they had last year they bring out alot of OT pasaages and Connectimg it with NT. And see for yourself if this May be a highly possible Hermeneutic connectiion which could end up Questiining the Entire Dispen.premill Camp.

[@tonyw7570]

And read Dan 8.15, 17, 26. This vision is for the time of the end, and specifically the time of wrath, ie Rev 16. The latter part of the 7 years.

[@TheWhyIsThatSo]

"The people of the prince who is to come"......is "ROME". "Rome" spiritually today is the western nations of the world ....... or the "ten horns" ( lost ten tribes of Israel ) in Revelation. And the "prince who is to come" is called the "Lamb" in the book of Revelation . The "Lamb" in Revelation is NOT Jesus as people falsely assume . Jesus is the one on the throne in Revelation and the "Lamb" is HIS messiah..... the "messiah of the Lord Jesus" ( Revelation 11:15 ) Jesus did not "atone" for anything......Jesus was the "Passover" lamb . Jesus was not the "Atonement" sacrifice of Leviticus 16. The sacrificial death of Jesus saved the "first born" or the true "church"......ONLY ! His death paid their "sin debt"......or their "karmic debt" . There is coming another sacrificial "Lamb" that will fulfill the "Atonement" of sin for the world. The "Lamb" in Revelation is also the "two witnesses" .......ONE person . He will preach to the world for repentance because of the coming judgment of God on the world . He will preach for 3 1/2 years......fulfilling the last half of the prophetic "week" of Daniel's prophecy . He is killed and resurrected in chapter 11 of Revelation . His death is the "Atonement" sacrifice......preceded by "Trumpets" (judgment)....... and followed by "Tabernacles" (God will dwell with man) . ALSO.......the "abomination that causes desolation" is the coming rebuilt physical "Temple" . There is no "Mr. Antichrist" coming......."antichrist" is the false religion called "Christianity" .

[@isseyphresh82]

4th beast is the OTTOMAN EMPIRE... NOT ROME....

[@lukebenner9860]

@@isseyphresh82 who have you read that says that? Joel Richardson is the only one I know.

[@davidperry3096]

What is being restrained is the coming of the Lord. 2Thessalonians is a0000bout the coming of the Lord and not primarily the coming of the antichrist. The antichrist and the falling falling away must come first and until they do come the Lord cannot return. When the Lord returns the antichrist will be revealed for who he is, not the real Christ but the false one who is the restrainer.