The Absurd Quantum Power of Dr. Manhattan

[@kongsied4279]

Dr. Manhattan always looks always disappointed, especially the one in the movies

[@countivar1642]

Another great and informative video as always the best DC scaler in the biz always dropping quality fire content

[@LumosTheromax]

Let’s gooooo

[@far0oky0u25]

Great content. Big Manhatten fan and this was satisfying.

[@LumosTheromax]

Glad you enjoyed it as I spent a ton of time working on it!

[@thechristwholaughs9925]

Goated! In my top 5 all time characters. Perfect scaling video bro. He's entirely on another level. He can potentially one shot any and all characters under him

[@LumosTheromax]

Truuuuuuuu

[@thechristwholaughs9925]

@@LumosTheromax bruh, give me a list of characters in your opinion, who can beat him of somewhat neutralize his attack potency. It's gotta be a short list lol

[@thechristwholaughs9925]

@@LumosTheromax like for example, couldn't he beat the spectre if the good doctor removed the humans that feed the presence or God energy through worship and prayers from hypertime, thus nullifying the powers of the presence and spectre being the wrath of God, out of existence, especially with these being fictional characters to the good doctors level of perception? Asking for friend lol

[@LumosTheromax]

@@thechristwholaughs9925 no not at all. The collective unconscious he is referring to is the people who write the stories of dc not the people within dc. After all the collective unconscious of dc was created by the presence in totality. My seven forces of creation vid covers This. Could be interesting content to cover tho

[@thechristwholaughs9925]

@@LumosTheromax thanks a ton for the context bro! Much appreciated!!

[@Munch3r2plays]

This by far is the greatest video. Thank you for uploading my brother video purchase. Sorry I saw this late.

[@LumosTheromax]

Thanks dude

[@meatsweatsland]

The Manhattan video I've been waiting for forever. Get a sub brother.

[@LumosTheromax]

Eyyyyyyy

[@cheesefinder111]

And people say Beyonder beats him, lol.

[@terryagent_2994]

Another awesome video bro appreciated the work you put in champ

[@LumosTheromax]

Appreciate it! was a ton of work!

[@amaimonmoore4498]

Easily scales to Extraversal/Boundless.

[@WizOz-bu5fe]

You cannot put this guy in any more moviez. They will just dum down his powers to accomodate a watchable movie

[@LumosTheromax]

True

[@LetQCook]

yet he couldn't stop a couple nukes smh

[@BackwardsMMA]

Ur lucky I’m on my Q fanboy arc

[@LumosTheromax]

Mad lol

[@BackwardsMMA]

@@LumosTheromax Id back you up and say some shit like “bullet level Q” but I am contractually obligated to not say that

[@mel-el5862]

That was only in the watchmen verse and it was implied. Dr.manhattan never admitted he couldn't.

[@elcalabozodelandroide2]

Alan moore manhatthan / before watchmen and all other versions of manhathan.

[@breadletsky473]

Bro could you do scaling on the Molecule Man (secret wars 2015 or pre recon secret wars)

[@LumosTheromax]

Honestly im not too crazy on marvel scaling myself but my boy @Q always does good job of marvel scaling kzbin.info/door/CqCQdz9MC8ZjF3ioKh4qww

[@iKingReaction18]

Great video Doctor Manhattan was just one of those characters that you knew was just going to be extremely overpowered and I was happy to see at DC brought him to the Forefront. How do you think Doctor Manhattan would do in a verse like the King Verse.

[@LumosTheromax]

King verse is VERY tough competition. I could see him investigating the dark tower and trying to figure it out like he tried to figure out dc through new 52 to doomsday clock. Would be an amazing read and would definitely hurt your brain

[@iKingReaction18]

@@LumosTheromax yeah it would be crazy to see him go through the dark tower but i love to see how he would interact with someone like Pennywise and if they were to fight would Dr Manhattan come out alive.

[@omni_awareness67]

There's actually a scaling that put him above even Lucifer and it actually pretty convincing

[@LumosTheromax]

lets not go there he doesn't have becoming one with overvoid level stuff yet

[@smal750]

not even close

[@wishwaag5074]

@@LumosTheromax did lucifer became one with the overvoid as i read that i never seen the word OVERVOID but void nor did he became one with it or just left the universe and from yahwehs creation cuz im confused with people saying this and that can u give me a explanation here. and what is the name of that comic involeved the blight

[@kongsied4279]

I'm digging this channel

[@LumosTheromax]

Only because you have good taste

[@kongsied4279]

@@LumosTheromax facts!

[@LumosTheromax]

@@kongsied4279 add on discord if you wanna chill with the crew Lumos Theromax#3034

[@TheFluffyKitty]

Franklin Richards still soloes 😩

[@LumosTheromax]

Lol

[@wishwaag5074]

nahhhhh bro had to go allout to beat 3 celestials btw

[@thechristwholaughs9925]

Yes! The Good Doctor!!!!

[@LumosTheromax]

The gooderest doc alive (and yes that’s a meme)

[@SINVERSE137]

This video was gas

[@LumosTheromax]

Thanks dude told you it was a banger

[@terryagent_2994]

Dr Manhattan Presence like being,a puppeteer everywhere all at once

[@LumosTheromax]

Yeah hes a monster. Wonder if we will bump back into him down the road

[@terryagent_2994]

@@LumosTheromaxhes basically God lol I've always known he was like that as a character even more so now .

[@LumosTheromax]

@@terryagent_2994 thats good to hear!

[@justalonelyman994]

Great video

[@LumosTheromax]

Thanks!

[@WallyWestEXE]

Damn, goku might actually have to go supersaiyan for manhattan. Damn

[@WallyWestEXE]

@@Chaos_rod25 not realizing this is a joke

[@darriuseqatta3840]

@@WallyWestEXE *Deletes their comment with haste

[@WallyWestEXE]

@@darriuseqatta3840 lolololol

[@smal750]

💀

[@mumenrider1908]

Nah no need Krillin is enough

[@Zinkhar]

Excellent vid

[@LumosTheromax]

Thanks!

[@goatrex9195]

Dr Manhattan is OP af, but would u say he is more powerful than the Spectre?

[@LumosTheromax]

Easily imo

[@brandoncruse8532]

@@LumosTheromax He is a above Mxy who dog walks spectre so yeah 👍

[@bobopatchnosuke229]

1992 Spectre is impressive though, he gave Michael a good fight.

[@kawakiuzumaki5934]

Didn’t BWL already put spectre on a dog leash?

[@smal750]

​@@brandoncruse8532 Spectre beats 5d imps

[@michaelbraxton137]

Do you think Dr manhattan could beat true from darkside and chaos King

[@LumosTheromax]

Yes to both pretty easily imo

[@far0oky0u25]

HOLY SHIT. I've said that like twelve times reading theses comments. Shoutout to Lumos for answering the hard fan questions!

[@shastacat9632]

im not sure the darkness scales above manhattan, its shown pretty often that manhattan isnt the hardest person to manipulate even just by talking to him so him being manipulated by the great darkness doesnt really say much.

[@LumosTheromax]

Whether you think the great darkness isn’t above him or not it’s directly stated Manhattan was mind haxed by the great darkness to do everything he did in doomsday clock. He searched creation for a being specifically to deal with earths heroes. Every other person affected by the great darkness passively just kinda does what he wants. It’s possible that he just talked him into doing it, but I can’t find any evidence he just talked him into it. However it is stated Manhattan was specifically cursed as justice league incarnate issue 4 specifically says. This implies he has power over manhattan via that curse. Manhattan although powerful has never demonstrated anything on the level of the great darkness and the feats the great darkness brings to the table

[@shastacat9632]

@@LumosTheromax Im not entirely convinced that when it says "cursed" it means literally like a hex or something, while it entirely could be an actual curse but i can also see with the context of how the word "cursed" is used to be more of the great darkness setting manhattan on a hard or unfavorable task as both definitions of the word work in this context. Also i believe manhattan just getting to the DC universe as probably the highest feat in DC that i know of, the fact that he didnt have connective energy until he got to DC would imply that the watchmen universe is outside of the presence's creations and that opens up a whole load of questions.

[@LumosTheromax]

@@shastacat9632 I think passing through the source wall is op but the source wall still isn’t great darkness level. The great darkness has shown up through it as well during swamp thing #50 unless you think he just skipped it somehow. It’s not impossible as even Kyle rayner passed it as well as Barry Allen. I don’t think cursed would mean anything more than a mind hax in this scenario, unless we have more info simply because that’s how he did it to every other person the great darkness’s mind haxxed Difference in opinion I guess

[@shastacat9632]

@@LumosTheromax the way it seems to me is that manhattan was able to find the DC universe in the overvoid, similar to when lucifer left at the end of lucifer which is what i meant by the highest implied feat ive seen. When it comes to the curse i suppose it honestly doesnt matter if it was an actual curse or not, manhattans mental fortitude has always been his weak point to the point that even a smart human could exploit it.

[@LumosTheromax]

@@shastacat9632 I agree with everything you say but just traveling the overvoid isn't enough to be on the level of the great darkness. I agree he gets used by other intellects of high capacity but I wouldn't say that ozymandias cursed manhattan to leave his universe, he just used logic against him. Theres no evidence they communicated directly at all I understand your perspective I just with I had information to back it

[@BLACKCLOVERSTRONGER]

Would dream get beaten by Manhattan?

[@LumosTheromax]

dreams high ends get pretty wild not gonna lie

[@BLACKCLOVERSTRONGER]

@@LumosTheromaxOkay, essentially dream wins?

[@Georg3e]

​@BLACKCLOVERSTRONGER all the endless would win against him I can't lie

[@bricedbeginner]

Fantastic video, but I wonder who would win in a fight between dr Manhattan and lucifer morningstar?

[@LumosTheromax]

Lucifer has better feats confirmed for sure. He was creating his own creations out in the overvoid. I can speculate Manhattan could do that but can only confirm he can tamper with them and traverse the overvoid as Lucifer has.

[@spawnofragnarok9267]

Dante from Devil May cry 🆚 Dante from Dante's inferno the video game who will win or why in one by one fight to the death between these two mighty doomslayers ?

[@LumosTheromax]

Good question! I don’t scale either unfortunately

[@Hueyfreema80]

Question does Dr Manhattan scale higher than Lucifer?

[@WallyWestEXE]

Nah dawg.

[@menace2society759]

So do we know how much of dr manhattans power wally had ???

[@LumosTheromax]

It’s the remnants of what the quintessence could get from the stagnant energies of manhattan recreating our reality and returning it to how it was. Very little

[@WallyWestEXE]

We know it was en par to the remaining energies wonderwoman got from the quintessence.

[@SAmbience]

What would you say: Franklin Richard or the Doc ?

[@LumosTheromax]

I’ve got doc for sure on that one. Franklin has good stuff but not nearly as impressive as manhattan

[@SAmbience]

@@LumosTheromax yep the funny thing about Manhatten is that he scales to outer despite never actually going all out or something

[@LumosTheromax]

@@SAmbience literally! He casually blew up the multiverse

[@samuachille1520]

​@@SAmbience Manhattan is far above that

[@licansen3331]

yea but can he beat swamp thing tho or darkseid?

[@LumosTheromax]

Yeah

[@licansen3331]

@@LumosTheromax swamp thing is very strong and so is darkseid explain how drmanhattan can defeat them

[@LumosTheromax]

@@licansen3331 it’s easy. Neither of them can traverse the planes that manhattan did. He’s on another level with his shenanigans. He came from outside our multiverse implying he can pass the source wall and can traverse the overvoid, things neither the swamp thing nor darkseid have done

[@licansen3331]

@@LumosTheromax oh ok wow so he dr manhattan is realyl strong huh

[@bobopatchnosuke229]

Swamp Thing Destroyed retcon Corp which scales above the overvoid so no in my opinion I don't think he beats Swamp Thing.

[@kongsied4279]

And you had dudes saying Superman would have beaten Manhattan if he didn't decide to talk

[@LumosTheromax]

True but I really feel that’s a major assumption.

[@kawakiuzumaki5934]

He knew Superman could destroy him or he wouldn't even have come up with those two possibilities. Manhattan would've looked at Superman level of power and seen he just couldn't destroy him. But it’s more an impressive thing for superman, the fact Manhattan even considered superman destroying him as possibility.

[@jaheim_the_omnipotent4875]

isnt the light the presence?

[@LumosTheromax]

It 100% should be based on both the dc book and death metal statement but some people are still coping with that

[@jaheim_the_omnipotent4875]

@@LumosTheromax cause in the old swampman comic the presence and the great evil beast where equal in power but the great evil beast was only a fraction of the actual great darkness and in justice league dark we learned that the upside down man is a fraction of the great darkness or shadowrealm i think they are the same and he was hecates equal who scales way above the presence

[@WallyWestEXE]

@@jaheim_the_omnipotent4875 ok so , say hecate is the collective unconscious, thats one of the 7 forces that the presence made… the presence made eclipso, aka the bane of hecate’s existence. Guess what. Hecate doesn’t scale anywhere near presence lmao.

[@jaheim_the_omnipotent4875]

@@WallyWestEXE ah no shes not shes stated to be the first snd true god and created the godsphere that contains the dreaming where the presence was born in and she also stated that the only reason so many creation myths exist is cause she allows them all to exist simultaneously cause it amuses her and eclipso is literally her kryptonit and the fact that he had so make something tha acts as a kryptonite to her proves hes weaker and why is that ecen an antifeat? its a hax thats if i say im stronger than u cause i poised u hecate is literally the opposite of the upwside down man whos stronger than the great evil beast who was equal to the presence

[@WallyWestEXE]

@@jaheim_the_omnipotent4875 presence born in a realm he created??? UpsideDownman coming from the realm of great darkness makes him scale higher? Hecate wasn’t eaten by upside down-man? The hands who created the verse and hecate didn’t use the power from the presence? Dream doesnt admit the presence is 1st place in dc? Zattana didnt beat upside down man? Idk bro. Sounds like a few holes in your theory.

[@BackwardsMMA]

W video

[@brodiecronin1530]

He a big boy

[@LumosTheromax]

one of the biggest

[@redentity7119]

5

[@LumosTheromax]

?

[@LumosTheromax]

Why are you always so cryptic in my comments

[@DagothUrAmaranth]

lool

[@rpgtimefire]

Your use of slang sounds mad corny.

[@LumosTheromax]

I don’t disagree but it’s authentic