The abuse of Dylan Larkin

Dylan Larkin has faced a lot of dangerous injuries caused by other players. those other players have never been punished so today we are going to talk about why they should be.

[@allmike8487]

homer

[@limitless_pulls]

I'm pinning this so everyone can see that my account that almost exclusively makes videos on my favorite teams is biased. Breaking news.

[@Musique61414]

How the Ducks got away with that.

[@helloimshawn]

@allmike8487 virgin. We can state the obvious, but what’s the fun in that?

[@KFARR]

So facts don’t matter weird logic Mike

[@ernie8401]

Marge

[@user-rl4be4gj3y]

The NHL always complains that players get too physical for no reason, and then start handing out penalties and fines because of it, but they always fail to realize that if the refs and player safety did what they were supposed to, they wouldn’t have that problem to begin with. It’s actually baffling to me how incompetent this league is sometimes.

[@limitless_pulls]

Personally I feel like if they stopped getting so caught up in discouraging fighting they would actually be much better at preventing head injuries. Not saying we need to have fights like the 80's or anything. But if the NHL stopped punishing guys for fighting, and punished players for dirty hits and crosschecks that would actually do a lot more for player safety. But, that's just me.

[@mikedoyle5939]

I agree 100%. Set the boundaries on dirty and dangerous plays. There's still room to "let the play" at times like playoffs by setting the bar higher on in game type stuff all the while protecting players.

[@Kieva_Storm]

Gary Bettchman has his head too far up his own ass to care.

[@mysticone1798]

The fighting and physical assaults in the NHL are it's biggest problem. One of these days a player is going to get a serious, permanent injury, and the entire league will be sued for ignoring basic criminal laws intended to protect EVERYBODY!! The violence also diminishes the best aspects of the game, which are speed, strategy, and finesse. STOP THE FIGHTING, REFS!!!!

[@user-rl4be4gj3y]

I think that It would be impossible to get rid of the fighting, but the NHL has to find a happy medium. Fighting always has and always will be apart of hockey, but the fighting that we see on a near daily basis isn’t that normal type of fighting, it’s all retaliatory fighting for hits that should’ve been called but weren’t. If the refs called what needed to be called, we would still have fighting, but it would just be your typical scrum, not players having to take matters into their own hands.

[@willmcgee45]

Benn is absolute garbage.

[@lem01ne]

This is what I came here to say. Dude is trash.

[@dominator9059]

0 Wings fans were surprised with that crosscheck he put on Stone in the playoffs last year.

[@Muz__27]

@@dominator9059 But we were surprised that he actually got a 2 game suspension for it. The league didn't seem to give a damn about the equally viscous crosscheck to Larkin.

[@bmorg5190]

id sure like to have him on my team though lol

[@insertnamehere313]

​@@bmorg5190Wrong...I wouldn't want Benn on the team...I'd rather have Reaves or the rat before Benn...and that's not saying much. Dirty player's on teams are huge targets for the refs...the refs seem to punish those teams more.

[@poomanshakur832]

Well put man. The NHL has absolutely GOT IT BACKWARDS on a nightly basis. George Parros has done a GOD AWFUL job during his tenure. The Head of Player safety should BE ELECTED like a Prime Minister or President. Voted in by the owners and players association, and every 3-5 years should have to run against new candidates. I have no problem with the swing Larkin put on Jospeh. Although, his second run in with Joseph, I think it was the glove of Parker Kelly coming in that might have caught Dylan on the chin.

[@_Kakoosh]

This is why the saying “Detroit vs everyone” exists. I’ll never forget how much of an upset it was seeing that pistons win the championship in 2004 against the legendary Lakers team. People just straight don’t like Detroit and that includes the leagues

[@kellark12]

I always thought my dad was just over reacting but I swear lately i keep seeing that come true. I'm sure many people could say the same thing about their team but I swear to god we just don't get many calls our way or in the case of the NHL we almost fucking never get someone kicked, fined, or suspended for any reason. Its pretty upsetting tbh. I cant imagine how the players feel.

[@barx]

You think people don't like Detroit? An O6 franchise? If Detroit were an expansion franchise in a hot climate, you'd really see how much they'd hate you. People do not hate Detroit in the slightest.

[@dolphpaperroute6362]

I like it this way.. Look at the Lions this year.. (Yes ik we should've been in the Bowl this year and I still love Dan Campbell) But NOBODY expected us to make it to the NFC championship game this year let alone the playoffs and we were always seen as the "worst team in playoffs" and yes that 04 Pistons team was absolutely magical, nobody thought we'd beat the Lakers shit nobody thought they could beat the lakers (other teams). I like it being us against the world now that some of our teams are getting a lil better, makes it that much more sweet when we prove them wrong 100%.

[@user-nn7jq1rq5u]

People do Hate the Redwings for sure, we're seen as the Yankees of hockey for a long time, especially when illitch was buying players.

[@nirvanaguitar]

Thank you. As a wings fan it's insane to me how this isn't talked about more. That Ottawa game was infuriating.

[@obi-wankenobi7041]

I know, that also kinda gets me excited because I get to go to the follow up game on the 31st of this month

[@leelewitzky8128]

Joseph did not fucking punch him. As a senators fan initially I thought the hit was terrible and inexcusable. However when you look at the different angles it was clearly just a really unlucky play. The Red wings player who comes after Zub who was trying to HELP LARKIN

[@chadbeattie9977]

Perron better be ready to fight on the 31st...but he won't,being the fake tough guy that he is

[@patrickgaughan1199]

​@@chadbeattie9977idk I think if someone challenges perron I think he drops the gloves. Not a fighter but you gotta have some guts to win the cup.

[@nirvanaguitar]

Your team knows all about fake tough guys @@chadbeattie9977

[@JakeW26]

I love Dylan Larkin and I'm not even a Red Wings fan. I'm a Rangers fan. I wish we had Larkin. You Red Wings fans are blessed AF to have him. The NHL is pathetic for letting these scumbags continuously hurt Larkin with dirty ass hits and cross checks.

[@SleepyScylla]

Someone would need to fact check this, but I don't remember a single player getting suspended for any action against ANY redwings player in the last 3+ years. Which is absolutely insane considering the amount of boardings/checking from behind and dirty plays dealt to our players over that period of time. I'd love to be wrong about this, but even the Gudas Slew Foot on Raymond a few weeks ago went completely unnoticed other than an "interference" minor penalty... which is absurd. Wings have been looked over by the league, meanwhile we get handed suspensions every now and again for very innocent plays like the Rasmussen suspension for his "high stick" a year or 2 ago.

[@ivrynite]

Well I know within a couple weeks of each other, Rasmussen got cross checked in the head and the offending player received a two minute minor. Then just a few games later, Dylan Larkin accidentally had his stick ride up and cross check TJ Oshie in the head, almost identically to the hit on Rasmussen. Larkin got a game misconduct.

[@destructoid5939]

iirc, Ryan Hartman from the Wild got one this year for a slewfoot on DeBrincat

[@SleepyScylla]

Holy shit you're right.. Guess hartman got unlucky XD @@destructoid5939

[@teddeyy4297]

Don't worry mate, shit like this only makes OUR team and players way stronger!!! Go Wings!!

[@evang7954]

ryan hartman got suspended for slew footing debrincat this season. please. use google

[@derekhand7904]

I’m just glad Larkin seems to be getting back to his game and competing for a playoff spot. And thought scum bag Sens are at the bottom of the league that’s what they deserve.

[@limitless_pulls]

Currently in the 2nd wild card spot LETS GOOOOO

[@jakeelliott3562]

​@@limitless_pullsand an 11 game pt streak for the cap❗❗

[@djmc8505]

Joseph and Benn are goons.

[@hardrocker61682]

i 100% agree with you (and Im not a Red Wings Fan) the only reason i can think of why the NHL never does anything is cause they got a complete idiot in George Parros in charge of NHL's Department of Player Safety. They basically got a goon in charge.

[@jakeelliott3562]

I feel so bad for Larks man, he's gone through so much personally and in the game the past couple of years. He still comes back and is the heart and soul of this team and one of the best athletes in the city. I want to see him win a cup so bad he deserves it so much, even if its not with us and it's later in his career or something i will till forever love our captain

[@SuggyPopSodaBoy]

It’s pretty unfair how they treat the wings in general. They got heavily screwed on the draft lottery. If this shit happened to Hughes the league would be freaking out

[@steve8803]

@SuggyPopSodaBoy you whine more than leafs fans.

[@SuggyPopSodaBoy]

@@steve8803 impossible.

[@paulgiarmoleo3469]

​​@@steve8803 nah bluds right im not even a wings fan i watch yhere games they've get screwed and the past lotterys have been screwed

[@steve8803]

@@paulgiarmoleo3469 yes everyone hates the wings

[@mikedoyle5939]

We're just looking for clarification on the rules. Player safety is important for a healthy league. Keeps fans invested. It isn't a team thing.

[@Barkebain]

When the refs allow things like this to go unpunished, it's up to teammates to make certain it never happens again. Does anyone believe these things would have happened if Kocur and Probert were on the ice/bench? The refs get one chance to protect players, then it's the players' turn.

[@robertnelson6785]

Not a chance Joesph would take a shot like that with either of them on the ice he would’ve been scared to get demolished

[@the13rookie]

There is no powerplay from a 10min misconduct, it only affects that player.

[@limitless_pulls]

Oh shit ya u right

[@matthollingsworth3612]

Pretty sure the wings ended up with an extended pp on that one too.

[@AustinWestbro]

The NHL actively conspires against Detroit. Detroit fans have known this for a long time. This video is proof.

[@lukes7853]

When it comes to the game where Larkin was knocked out everybody gets the whole situation wrong. Joseph didn't knock Larkin out, hell he doesn't even cross check Larkin at all. Before you berate me hear me out. To start off with Joseph's stick is in one hand. There is no such thing as a 1 handed cross check. Secondly that was a scrum in front of the net and the players are battling for room, which you see every night multiple times a game. I think it's ridiculous to say that Joseph was witch hunting Larkin. He wasn'nt looking for Larkin's number. That was just a wrong place wrong time. I agree that the shove was high and the 2 minutes for roughing were deserved but there is no cross check to the back of Larkin's head/neck area on the play at all. What actually knocked Larkin out was the contact with Kelly's hand, which was completely accidental. The motion caused by the shove from Joseph pushed Larkin's head into Kelly's hand where the but end of the stick made contact with Larkin ultimately knocking him out. There was a video posted here on KZbin by a doctor who went over this incident in detail and determined that it was the contact with Kelly which led to Larkin being out cold on the ice. Also saying that Perron's crosscheck to the head was understandable is crazy considering that play had a much higher chance of significant injury and was guaranteed to be intentional. That suspension was well earned. I understand defending your teammate and was actually hoping something would happen but not a dirty crosscheck to the head of a player that had nothing to do with the play at all. I am not at all condoning illegal hits or dirty plays but this one was 100% a series of unfortunate events. I'm glad Larkin is alright and back up to speed. Detroit, you have an amazing player to call your captain!

[@Raist474]

Small wonder there's been rumblings in the League about Enforcers possibly making a comeback.

[@nathanbrisebois8756]

Enforcers never left, they've just not been allowed to do what they do. I for one do not want to see the return of the mercenary for hire who can't skate or score, you have to be good at hockey AND punching people's faces. The refs are too inconsistent, DOPS is too inconsistent, repeat offenders get away with their crap all the tike with little or no punishment, but players who've ha enough and stand up for themselves and their team get the hammer dropped on them hard. Yes, poor reactions are a thing, but can you blame some of the players with the moving goalposts of officiatng night in and night out?

[@Raist474]

@@nathanbrisebois8756 I don't want the old ways to come back either, but they absolutely will if the NHL doesn't pull their heads out of their asses soon. Teams are not going to sit by as their star players get forced into early retirement because the Refs won't make the proper calls or overreact. It's cheaper to hire in a no-skill player to beat someone into a pulp and eat a suspension than lose your goal-maker for good. Vigilante justice is a result of a complete failure and lack of faith in rule enforcement

[@LarrytheLumberjack]

Bring back Bob Probert!

[@LarrytheLumberjack]

Bring back Bob Probert!

[@LarrytheLumberjack]

Bring back Bob Probert!

[@user-qr1gx1gg4v]

I understand he isn’t necessarily a true star player that must be protected, but he is the heart and soul of the Red Wings and the team struggles the most whenever he’s out of the lineup

[@mikedoyle5939]

He's elite in my book.

[@Muz__27]

@@mikedoyle5939 Same here! I think he's the most underrated player in the NHL. He just needed someone at his skill level to play with and as much as I liked the feistiness of Bertuzzi, he wasn't it. If he was on any other team playing on a line with one or two other star players I think he'd have a ton more points right now. I'm so happy to see him finally having success and it'll only get better from here.

[@PooBiscuits]

Nevermind that, DoPS are trying to make sure any player, star or not, is open for season-ending injuries.

[@1911skippy]

That's a lineman in the third hit, not a ref. I don't mind hitting and fighting in hockey. I don't want to see these dangerous injuries, they have no place in any game.

[@bochafish]

Love Larkin even as a Hawks fan. The incident at 2:20 put it over the top for me. Wish he was on our team.

[@limitless_pulls]

Well in 5 to 10 years he could be a Blackhawk. We seem to like to aquire each other's old stars. Bob Probert, Chris Chelios, and most recently Patrick Kane.

[@bochafish]

@@limitless_pullsHa, very true. And the Hawks/Wings rivalry doesn’t seem like a thing anymore. Watched the wings destroy the hawks many times in the 90’s haha.

[@supertaj1800]

This vid is spot on. Get your shit straight NHL. Nothing has made sense suspension / discpline wise in quite some time and this is a great example of the issues the league has had. What's their issue with Larkin? I'm not wings fan (see pic) but the man is the face of the franchise and being the wings the one of the main faces of the league. The man is a role model and great young-ish captian which makes this even more baffling.

[@justinkoster4417]

i was at that game against ottawa that sequence of events was wild and was incredibly scary. I still cant believe perron got 6 games and joseph got a 2 min penalty after larkin was completely knocked out

[@lukedewitt8385]

I’m pretty sure you’re missing more too. If I remember correctly last year or two years ago Dylan Larkin had three instances of getting cross checked or sticks to the face with no penalty and he got a penalty for an accidental face tap.

[@limitless_pulls]

That's possible, but these were the only ones I could find footage of. Also, these all resulted in injuries (exept for one maybe).

[@lukedewitt8385]

@@limitless_pulls yeah dude you did an awesome job. My point being the BS extends beyond injuries that take him out of the game. I mean good god we know this guy plays through a lot we don’t know about. Love the video. You nailed the issue

[@lukehuiskamp9915]

I agree Larkin has copped it pretty bad. I am a fan of Dallas and Benn's cross check to me seemed like he was trying to create separation. However, Benn has made a few questionable decisions and Larkin was in a vulnerable position. For this reason it is a a penalty. Only Jamie Benn will know if there was intent, but there still is an element of control and discretion required on the guy performing the "hit". Larkin seems to be a true leader, I wish him all the best. * On a side note, I am from Australia and a casual Hockey fan, so perhaps I am just ignorant.

[@ncredwing3680]

As soon as you said you were a stars fan you had given away the rest of your take on Benn was biased.

[@lukehuiskamp9915]

Fair play, I think you'll also notice that I said he has made some bad decisions, this could have been one of them. Maybe it was the slow motion that skewed my perception, I don't know. I am far from an expert.@@ncredwing3680

[@Muz__27]

There were a few more hits from behind that you didn't include as well. I'm pretty sure there was a stretch of about 4 games straight where at least one dirty hit was made against Larkin in each game with no penalties called. The NHL and their department of safety is a damn joke.

[@bobbymcilvenna5300]

Every sport just seems to have so much hate for Detroit.

[@ryanstadtfeld9993]

League leadership hates Detroit and wants them to be terrible. So yes, Larkin gets this treatment and rather than winning the draft lottery a few years back we *surprised Pikachu face* dropped as far as possible - fourth overall. Granted we turned that pick into a Calder winner, but I bet that made League higher-ups irate.

[@jacobbecker3381]

At this point I think the nhl just hates Larkin

[@hockeylegend50]

detroit has always been about grit, except the pistons theyre a lost cause

[@icedo1013]

I had absolutely no problem with Perron's retlatiation, outside of taking on a completely innocent guy of course. If the league wants to turn a blind eye to the appalling treatment Larkin has been getting then I say, short of murder, let the players themselves send as clear a message as possible that behavior like that will not be tolerated any longer. The refs won't keep him safe, the league won't respond in his defense, who else then but the players and the team?

[@LazyLemming2]

Nah, responding with a cross check to the head isn't appropriate. That being said, I don't blame the guy, not even for getting the wrong person. When you turn and see your boy laid out on the ice and someone standing over him, you react. I'm glad Perron stood up for Larks, but he still deserved a suspension for it. 6 days was ridiculous tho.

[@ElDonGato69]

What a stupid comment. Perron straight up went for a decapitation

[@powrfwd37]

I'm not going to try to say that all of those hits were clean or even okay, but theres a few rules that you need to have a better understanding of. Cross-Checking will almost never be called if the offending player does not have his arms fully extended at some point during the act. Benn - mostly due to positioning, could not have extended his arms fully there. Same thing applies on the Huberdeau incident. As for the two Power Plays that you mentioned, they are inaccurately presented. A 10 minute misconduct penalty doesn't reduce the number of players on the ice, and neither does the 5 minute fighting major. As a result, the 10 minutes vs the four does not leave Detroit shorthanded for 6 minutes. Detroit would have had a 5 on 3 Power Play for 2 minutes. Same for the Ottawa game, the 5 minute Major doesn't remove a Detroit player from the ice. So again, 5 on 3 Power Play (for Detroit) for two minutes.

[@JR-bv8hf]

I think if the nhl isn’t going to do something, the fans need to

[@slappy2X]

27 knocked out Larkin in the 2023 incident.....Joseph pushed him forward by shoving his head, but 27 came in with a right to the jaw....looks like that was the KO shot

[@chadbeattie9977]

It's crazy to me that people can't see that. They're letting their emotions get in the way just because there was an incident between Joseph and Larkin before.

[@LazyLemming2]

That's probably why it was a knockout, but Joseph still initiated the whole thing with a completely unnecessary stick to the back of Larkin's head. You can go frame by frame @5:09 and @604 and watch Joseph's stick hit Larkin just below the helmet. He even follows through, exacerbating the impact when Kelly hits him. Kelly went for the hit and is literally just reacting when Larkin suddenly lurches at him because of Joseph's hit. Whether it was the hit by Joseph or the impact by Kelly, the whole thing was started by a dirty hit to the head from Joseph. He doesn't even have the excuse of "Larkin didn't keep his head up", because you can see both players are upright and stationary and Joseph is looking straight at where he's hitting Larkin.

[@MrSpleenface]

@@LazyLemming2”Stick to the back of the head” is a pretty extreme framing. The stick was in 1 hand and the contact was pretty much entirely glove/hand

[@dustinssimpson]

​@@MrSpleenfaceyou are stupid

[@bartsanders1553]

Everybody wants to be the next Lemiuex, it seems.

[@paulgiarmoleo3469]

Lol

[@jonathanallard2128]

Lemieux*

[@bartsanders1553]

@@jonathanallard2128 I'll worry about apelling his name correctly after he apologizes to Draper.

[@jonathanallard2128]

Oh, THAT Lemieux. I thought you were talking about 66. @@bartsanders1553

[@templetonvonfleshbeak8915]

Mathieu Joseph is worth nothing on this Earth

[@chrisman867]

I am in total agreement with your statement. If you have to give Perron a suspension fine, but make it three games not six (that was completely excessive); but also suspend Joseph for the same amount of games for the cross-check to the back of the neck of Larkin. Wake Up Refs! You Are completely blind!

[@limitless_pulls]

That's really all I'm asking for is fair punishment. A lot of people kinda tried to put words in my mouth or assume things. But that's how it goes sometimes 🤷‍♂️.

[@Shoresy-69]

You didnt mention but the game after the Huberdeau crosscheck, Larkin did the same exact thing to Oshie. And got a 5 minute major + misconduct for it

[@BP21_]

Also, respect to Heddy for that friendly tap.

[@hunterbramlage6044]

Redwings need to send a message to the rest of the league

[@tkdamusicman]

I have a question what is larkin playing style? And what are some skillsets I can apply to sledge hockey for example passing

[@bobhunter8992]

It’s ALWAYS Detroit vs everybody!!😡

[@Onlytheclouds]

I’m a Leafs fan who went to uofw in 07-11 and have a soft spot for the wings. I loved going to the Joe to watch games it had a certain aura especially in that time period.

[@ranbran2948]

I’ve only watched the first two ‘dirty plays’, not sure I’ll watch the rest. Can someone explain to me where the issue is in either of those? Benn did not cross check him. Larkin had his head at Benn’s waist, and Benn lightly push on Larkins should/neck, and backed up at the same time, to clear the situation. The second one, Larkin missed the puck and hit the brakes. The lightening player, at high speed, was suddenly faced with Larkins back, and he hardly touched him.

[@limitless_pulls]

Wtf are you on with the Benn one, he literally looks down at Larkin and slams his stick on his neck. Larkin was in no position to make a play on the puck, it was completely avoidable and unnecessary.

[@sk8board44]

I've suffered broken ribs, even twice from the same player, and teeth from foul plays without the ref seeing anything... makes you doubt the game...

[@sthylus7]

Great video, really puts the frustration of Wings fans into words. Us younger fans have yet to witness any significant success for the wings, but the future looks bright from Dylan and the Wings. Hopefully he can stay healthy.

[@Slayer_7666]

I am a Bruins fan. It’s always so interesting to hear a fan of a rival talk about the treatment of some of their players, and how you can compare them to your own. For your Dead Things, it’s Larkin. For my Bruins, it’s Marchand. Where…seemingly, try to take them out forever and no one bats an eye, but they retaliate or someone tries defending them? Game misconduct and a hearing from Players Safety. I’ll bring this up because I try to be unbiased. When Rasmus Anderson did his blatant attempt-to-injure against Laine in the early season (>5s remaining in the third, down by a couple) it was only a 4 game suspension. My McAvoy did a (I didn’t see it as, as dirty, but I can understand how some would see it as such) headhunter type ply against OEL, which also game him a 4 game suspension (and a Game Misconduct) I said. If the NHL wants to crack down on headhunter/attempt to injure hits, they need to dish out SEASON suspensions. The fact that they gave Pinto a 41 game suspension for gambling, but a 4 game suspension for headshots…DESPITE THE MILLIONS OF ADS THEY HAVE FOR SPORTS GAMBLING. It just doesn’t make sense. I hope I come across as neutral as a Bruins Fan can come across. May your Dead Things become the Rival that as a Bruins fan I hate playing (always use to have my teams number). I miss original 6 Rivalries. Where either team could come out with a 4 point victory, or have it be a nail-bitting SO game. Habs, Red Wings, Blackhawks…those three need to step it back up. I know the Red Wings are on a positive path, but. I also don’t want my Bruins to become a Poverty Franchise (Sens, Jackets, Habs, Ducks, Sharks…you get the picture) before the others become a scary game again.

[@thepolishprince851]

I could only read part of that without getting bored. Who has the time to write all that? The wings outplayed the bruins all year and Boston won’t see another championship before their core dies. Marchand and Larkin are nowhere comparable. Last I checked, Larkin doesn’t make dirty plays and cry when something happens to or try to bites guys fingers off. Marchand is pathetic.

[@nirvanaguitar]

Me and all my homies hate M.Joesph.

[@kingjoseph5901]

Aye

[@chrissmith6157]

The nhl higher ups have always played against the wings. It wont be stoping anytime soon. In yzerman we trust.

[@benteich]

Sometimes I wish the players could deal with refs like Adam Sandler did in the Longest Yard, in the game against the guards.

[@troubletrevor4096]

When you get a 10 minute misconduct the other team doesn’t get a 10 minute power play…

[@Mike.Kachar]

Ottawa for sure isn't making playoffs - that's the silver lining 😉

[@armandoortiz9114]

I guess the Players Union sucks if they don't want to step in and help this guy.

[@Leafgreen1976]

Cheap shots will continue in the NHL until they get rid of the instigator penalty.

[@the93rdturd21]

The thing is, the NHL doesn't actually care about players safety. That's why the league hands out quarter million dollar fines for complaining about officiating, yet only hands out 5000 dollars fines for career ending dirty hits. Edit: after a simple google search, it was actually complaining about player safety. So if that doesn't say anything about the NHL I don't know what does. A league where ending someones season costs you less than criticism.

[@xRawPower]

Pro sports in a nutshell. Maintain the veil at all costs.

[@h0ck3yphreak]

I hate to tell you this, but as a wings fan since 94, this is the NHLs MO against the DRW. Go back and see Benn's crosscheck on Zetterburg, hell, the NHL only gave 'The Turtle' two games for the hit on Draper...the NHL doesn't like the wings. period.

[@HighKage97]

Larkin made himself an enemy by retaliating against the League Darling Tampon Bay

[@danstolt2571]

We need a couple guys like probie to protect star players so they don’t take advantage of them and find these jerks themselves out

[@matthewsmith2237]

I think the craziest parts about these events isn’t even that the NHL did what they did with them. It’s that somehow there’s fans out there that say Larkin a diver or a dirty player because the NHL didn’t think the cross checks he got were dirty

[@darkphoenix2]

As a Wings fan, I really try to be fair about this stuff. I simply do not believe most players are consciously, purposefully taking actions with the intent to injure players. I do think Jamie Benn is a dirty player, and he should have been punished for his cross check. But I also think it's possible he meant to push Larkin down to the ice by pressing on his back, and he didn't place his stick correctly. In the chaotic nature of a face off or a puck battle in front of the net, I think players are less careful about how they physically move the opponent and they get away with things they shouldn't. I think this is what happened with Joseph this year - I don't believe he even knew who was in the red sweater next to him when he hit Larkin in the head, and it probably didn't even do the damage. Now, I'm not saying this is an excuse. I want the league to hold players to a higher standard when they're in these battles. Joseph was just trying to cross check/push Larkin away when he didn't even have the puck. The Huberdeau thing is similar, and you already said that was probably an accident. I think Joseph's boarding on Larkin was probably an accident too. A lot of boarding hits like that are. A player is in an awkward position and the other guy doesn't react properly and hits him in a dangerous moment. It's still a penalty, but I really don't think there's intent. We look at the second incident with Joseph and think it proves something, but why would Mathieu Joseph want to hurt Dylan Larkin? He doesn't have a dirty past with any other player. It doesn't really make sense. I think it was just a bad coincidence. Lastly, if anyone reads this and thinks I'm a bad Wings fan or something, look at Larkin's cross check to TJ Oshie from the 22-23 season. He just got his wires crossed and put his stick in the wrong place. It happens. I think Larkin is often in the dangerous areas and he fights hard, and it has resulted in really bad luck for him. And I think the players should be more careful. But I don't really see any reason to think Larkin is being targeted maliciously.

[@limitless_pulls]

That's completely fair. These instances are most likely accidents. But the league really needs to figure out if they want to care about player safety or let the players take care of it on the ice.

[@baldnett]

I just hope that Larkin doesn’t have a hair-trigger concussion response thanks to all these injuries sustained. Sometimes an almost innocuous play seems to affect him. The Joseph #2 situation still doesn’t look that bad ( even slowed down ) to have caused that loss of consciousness. He’s a great player so I hope for his future long and success.

[@icedo1013]

It's not that you're a bad Wings fan, it's just that there are holes in your assumptions. Joseph is shown on camera to have taken a look at the identity of the player he was about to assault, and Jamie Benn's cross check took place nearly a whole two seconds after the faceoff began. We expect, nay, demand that players adjust their hits in a less than half that time to accommodate a player that puts himself in a vulnerable position; there is no excuse for Benn to have believed the puck was anywhere near Larkin and should have known at the least that what he was about to do is no less than blatant interference as a result. It's not like there's some secret cabal of select delegates from each team that conspire on how to put Larkin in a wheelchair, they're more just crimes of opportunity. "Hey, their best player is in a vulnerable position. I'll rough him up a bit extra and see if I can throw him off his game" is a thought I believe any hockey player could have, and it's happened to Larkin often enough to consider advancing past mere coincidence.

[@thenickfoxx]

Joseph is questionable. He's more of a dirty player than a clean player. Jamie Benn is an actual scumbag though, there's no denying that. Actually Benn was playing dirty against Larkin just the other night. They got into a scrum because Benn slashed the back of his leg or something.

[@chadbeattie9977]

​@@icedo1013how do you know he identified him? Were you in his mind? Camera angles can play tricks. All it shows is that he looked at a player in front of him. Something you have to do while playing hockey. There's no way to conclusively prove that he looked at the namebar.

[@PooBiscuits]

I have a theory that the NHL is getting too skilled and too fast for the oldies up in NHL's DoPS, so they're going to let the season ending and career changing injuries happen so that they can keep talking about "grit"

[@michaelb9260]

This wouldn't be an issue if enforcers were still part of the game

[@chevelle1]

A 6 minute power play? No. A 10 minute game misconduct is not a 10 min manpower penalty.

[@limitless_pulls]

Didn't remember that until after. Honestly surprising that more people haven't noticed that mess up.

[@snipe994]

As a leafs fan this feeling of your team getting penalized and the others not sucks

[@FNMillerGaming]

I Know That Pain Of Loss This Man Felt And Its Terrible, Great Video

[@RIPROCK54]

I'm a 69-year-old Wings fan and I like Larkin, but he would do well to take a cue from Gordie Howe and toughen up. He doesn't have to fight all the time or take a run at everyone on the ice, but a little more of both would give him more room and less abuse on the ice. He's been a player who looks to draw penalties by laying on the ice and complaining to refs, something officials tend to remember. Do your own retaliation once in a while and the hacks will think twice next time and back off.

[@BluehawksHockeyMom]

I'm honestly surprised he hasn't sued because after 4 times there is plenty of grounds to sue the nhl for not properly protecting players

[@f8a1xhorizonz]

Great video, although I will say you did miss one instance. I forgot which game it was but it was one of the two games in Ottawa last year around the trade deadline. Larkin was cross checked from behind by (shocker) Mathieu Joseph, who didn’t even get a penalty called against him on it if I recall correctly, let alone a call from player safety.

[@DimesCS]

That Ottawa hit was not intentional, not only was the puck right under Larkin right in front of Ottawa's goalie but he only shoved him so how would anyone think that it would leave him unconscious.

[@user-vp8wq2ik7g]

If I am Larkin's teammate I am staring down Joseph every time the two teams line up and telling him "this COULD be the game you pay...or MAYBE it won't be"

[@mainelybettas847]

Perron just about took Zub's Head off and he wasn't even responsible for what happened to Larkin. Was a gross cross check

[@guyfrommybox]

Perron was fined something like $146k also.

[@limitless_pulls]

That was also crazy bc 146k in hockey is probably equivalent to 500k in the NFL or NBA. I would do the exact math to figure out if that's true, but I don't like math very much 🤷‍♂️.

[@guyfrommybox]

@@limitless_pulls I would have been absolutely livid if I was Lalonde. About the whole situation. Lalonde seems too soft to be a coach, but 🤷‍♂️

[@limitless_pulls]

@guyfrommybox I wouldn't say he his soft, but he is very mild-mannered. He probably knew their was nothing he could do at that point. When he gets fired up and the bench a curses at refs it is very funny though.

[@user-vp8wq2ik7g]

Huberdeau didn't let up once his hands could neurologically guage where he made contact. In fact, he ground down into the neck and shoulder area. No slack for Hubie

[@brandonzuzak6748]

You’re not allowed to fight, it’s just the code.

[@RunningP123456]

The dirtiest play here was Larkin sucker punching joseph. Dude's just very injury prone sadly

[@djrondo1224]

Yzerman was protected by Probert and Kocur but has done a poor job of protecting his assets as you would think he Would. Game is different but Stevie is one of best GMs in business.

[@adammangold1392]

Dylan notched his 200th on Jan 27

[@puckhndler]

Wayne Gretzky was great, but he had help. If you roughed up Gretz, the next shift, you could expect Marty McSorley to come over the wall and toss your chicklets to the ice. Joseph is a goon, and he knows the league protects him, so he does what he wants. In the better days of hockey, this would be handled on the ice, maybe next meeting, maybe in the playoffs. Perhaps Joseph should learn turtle lessons from Claude Lemeiux? Remember when Larkin got suspended for a cheap shot? He did it, got it and paid it. The league is protecting these goons, and this is why we end up with high kicks to the neck. These goons need to be reminded. The league needs to step up. Before someone else dies.

[@voidvisual]

Wings play Ottawa next Wednesday the 31st for the first time since the Joseph hit at home. Book your calendars. LGRW

[@dustinmacdougall24]

Tonights the night.

[@dennis_burgess]

Go find the comments about him on videos showing the abuse.

[@bradc01x]

This is the exact reason why teams need enforcers.

[@humblelad]

all my homies hate Jamie Benn

[@Nickh4929]

He is from my hometown and a g

[@georgetourlidas2447]

Kelly knocked out larkin, not joseph. Can see him hitting Larkin's jaw with the top-down angle. Regardless, Larkin deserves better

[@LazyLemming2]

Doesn't really matter. Kelly would never have hit Larks in the jaw if Joseph hadn't cross checked him the back of the neck and pushed him to the ice. Joseph's illegal hit initiated the events and lead to the injury.

[@mayntrain66]

He’s the worst at drawing a penalty in the history of the NHL.

[@braydenvelt]

Wanted to come back and say hold the L again. at least your captain made it through the game this time!

[@limitless_pulls]

Man you Ottowa fans are dicks 😂 video wasn't even about just you guys holy shit. You got a good OT win, good for you.

[@MrGroyper]

Great video pal

[@screepyspooks8794]

And again we go back to the 90s this is the entire reason we had enforcement as long as the NHL allows their officials to turn a blind eye to blatantly bad calls you need the enforcer and then NHL needs to let that happen

[@MrSpleenface]

I’m sorry, the Sens case makes perfect sense that the Sens came out on top. If you want to argue for a major for Joseph or Kelly, fine. What Perron did was more dangerous, was after the play, and was targeted at someone who was literally calling for help.

[@abdullahithebest]

Lool goes on and on about Larkin but didn't say a word about Perron with the real deliberate cross-check to Zub's face

[@limitless_pulls]

"In the aftermath of this incident Perron was suspended 6 games for his cross check, which I understand."- Me, in this video. So I said several words about it. But just go ahead and make stuff up ig.

[@abdullahithebest]

@@limitless_pulls your energy was very different when looking at the play that was actually deliberate and targeted directly at the opponents head area. The force Perron used was way harder than anything Mathieu Joseph used but for you a throw away line is enough to address it? Loser Homer

[@limitless_pulls]

@abdullahithebest you said I didn't say a word about it, and I said several. Now you are saying it was a throw away line, even though it directly played into the rest of the point I was trying to make. Obviously what Perron did was wrong (like I said) but you are acting like he did it unprovoked. Talking about "my energy" when you clearly don't even listen to what I say or notice the context of the situation. Remind me which guy actually missed time due to injury after this.

[@WhyIsThisVisible]

Can't wait for Joseph to be put on a T-shirt next time the Wings play the Sens.

[@EliteFortifiedGaming]

Hockey is only entertainment. No talent required

[@johnshields6852]

Hockeys frustrating at times, you get hooked, slashed, speared, banged around and tempers flare, that's why there's cheapshot, guys getting lined up, like bedard, even though his hit was not that hard it was when he was in vulnerable position, that's hockey, the teach us, don't retaliate, get the guys #, but it's easier said than done.

[@sparky3006]

Well when the guy in charge of player safety was the leagues biggest goon what can youmexpect

[@lordvasileLive]

George Parros right? The neck is not even protected!

[@curlyb]

0:21 did you really say "scoring the puck"???? hoooooooooly.

[@limitless_pulls]

Whats wrong with saying "Scoring the puck". I've heard it used all my life.

[@curlyb]

@@limitless_pulls 😵‍💫

[@limitless_pulls]

@curlyb well I can't use constructive criticism if you don't construct any criticism 😂

[@devingrandell6037]

Larkin is a great player (who has been doing very well in my fantasy team) and the refs and nhl need to open their eyes as people get suspended for a lot less that what some players have done to larkin

[@Elliesbow]

joseph is such a coward. Commits acts and acts like the victim

[@everyonesguy7466]

He had a KZbin channel back in the day ever since then I was behind him , solid player on a bad team

[@user-qx3do8ee8j]

Well, 25th vs Flyers. Detroit had 3 boarding and only one call. I'm not a Philly fan. So it's time you get over it.

[@KFARR]

Senators player should have been suspended

[@Europa8841]

It's Detroit vs Everybody in all sports. Proud to be a Wings fan! We need another Probert! . We need to remind the rest of the League that we're the Detroit Red Wings and you'll always live in our shadow!

[@user-ud7wj6wt3u]

Benn has about 6 brain cells so this doesn’t surprise me.