The Abyss (1989) : 4K Ultra HD Blu-Ray vs DVD (PAL) Comparison (+ ATMOS Preview 🎧)

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@hdnumerique
@hdnumerique 5 ай бұрын
✅ Complete Review (🇫🇷) : www.hdnumerique.com/dossiers/1229-test-4k-ultra-hd-blu-ray-abyss.html 11:25 - Binaural Audio Examples
@cavalierdecoupe
@cavalierdecoupe 5 ай бұрын
HD Numerique you have outdone yourself again with this comparison!. Best KZbin channel in my opinion.
@Maxxxim1
@Maxxxim1 5 ай бұрын
I never thought 4k would look better than DVD
@uldispaze7325
@uldispaze7325 5 ай бұрын
Yap. It would be hard to f* up. But still possible. We all know who could do it. I never had this movie on DVD, only on VHS
@V3nom7
@V3nom7 Ай бұрын
When the first blurays where out, you can't imagine the amount of simple dvd masters upscales which were sold... (done by legit distributors)
@EliteRock
@EliteRock Ай бұрын
The Abyss DVD's were from a non-anamorphic (letterboxed) transfer kicking around for pre-DVD VHS and Laserdisc releases, 25% less vertical resolution than anamorphic, so this isn't a strict comparison of an optimal DVD and UHD/4K. But still, let's remember that 4K/UHD has TWENTY-FOUR and TWENTY times the pixel count of NTSC and PAL (and SECAM) respectively).
@PaulAlois180
@PaulAlois180 5 ай бұрын
La différence est folle! quand je pense qu'on regardait des films avec cette résolution. Merci HD Num
@Twinsen93
@Twinsen93 5 ай бұрын
Tout comme on regardait des vhs
@V3nom7
@V3nom7 Ай бұрын
@@Twinsen93 Et parfois une mini télé cathodique noir et blanc avec une antenne de fortune qui recevait mal... (J'avais découvert l'Exorciste ainsi)
@technohardtrance
@technohardtrance 5 ай бұрын
Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio est trop belle dans ce film je l'adore, Ed Harris à beaucoup de chance d'avoir embrassé Lindsey ! J'ai vu ce nouveau master et j'ai adoré, une redécouverte à la hauteur de mes attentes 😍
@friedpickle8332
@friedpickle8332 5 ай бұрын
Incredible! Probably the largest difference I've seen between two formats. Can't believe they never released a normal blu-ray of The Abyss, but now I'm glad they waited. Thank you for the fantastic comparison. Will definitely have to buy.
@V3nom7
@V3nom7 Ай бұрын
I would say the jump between DVD and Bluray first Alien was the best remaster ever made.
@LukeLovesRose
@LukeLovesRose 5 ай бұрын
No matter what, The Abyss looks and sounds better than ever
@tellemstevedave5559
@tellemstevedave5559 5 ай бұрын
Not better than the film prints, but better than the DVD, VHS and laserdisc
@LukeLovesRose
@LukeLovesRose 5 ай бұрын
@@tellemstevedave5559 Good call
@cavalierdecoupe
@cavalierdecoupe 5 ай бұрын
It s a great time to be alive to see these transfers finally happened!
@ughugh351
@ughugh351 5 ай бұрын
???
@Geeoh19
@Geeoh19 5 ай бұрын
Wonderful. The only Cameron 4K worth the money and it's still processed and horrible looking in some areas but it's leagues better than that DVD and I still have that DVD.
@jozdundar
@jozdundar 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, watching this new version on the big screen, several sections looked horrible processed
@TheBestPaRaNoo
@TheBestPaRaNoo 5 ай бұрын
Depuis le temps que j'attends mon dieu ma différence vivement de le recevoir
@theblackesteyesthedevilseyes
@theblackesteyesthedevilseyes 5 ай бұрын
At least it looks better than "Titanic", "Aliens" and "True Lies".
@TheStOne1
@TheStOne1 5 ай бұрын
Titanic looks much better than this crap.
@martinddhyj
@martinddhyj 5 ай бұрын
@@TheStOne1“Titanic“ looks awful. The AI sharpening s*cks.
@thischannelisdeleted
@thischannelisdeleted 5 ай бұрын
@@TheStOne1Titanic doesn’t look good.
@JimAllder11
@JimAllder11 5 ай бұрын
I'm sure it looks amazing (wouldn't know, myself, as it's no longer available), but I'm still troubled by the total lack of film grain, and the process by which they achieved that: A.I. upscaling.
@jozdundar
@jozdundar 5 ай бұрын
I got a chance to see this new version in theatres. I've also seen the 35mm many times in theatres. The lack of film grain and waxy nature of the faces was quite noticeable. While light years ahead of the waxy look from a decade ago, it was still quite distracting. As was the new teal colour grade, which differs from the print film look significantly in my opinion. While not incredibly terrible, it was still disappointing to see after how long we wait for an Abyss Blu-ray 😢
@chrisjfox8715
@chrisjfox8715 5 ай бұрын
Tons of 4K discs use AI upscaling, including some of the transfers you love I'm sure. AI upscaling is just a tool, and as is the case with any other tool used by an artist, it all comes down to the choices they make in how they wield it.
@stevemuzak8526
@stevemuzak8526 5 ай бұрын
It wasn't distracting at all. I heard some horror stories about this transfer from some 4K purists but I was blown away by this movie. Film grain is still there. It was just reduced. @@jozdundar
@DCMedien
@DCMedien 5 ай бұрын
I miss the magenta glow on some scenes, kinda sad. But overall outstanding work. Oh, and thank you for the atmos demonstration, love that 🙏
@RicardoGarcia-xz1rz
@RicardoGarcia-xz1rz 3 ай бұрын
That magenta glow never was really in the final 35mm prints, just was in the trailers and vhs stuff. 👀
@SteviesCornerYouTubeChannel
@SteviesCornerYouTubeChannel 5 ай бұрын
WOW, WOW, WOW, WOW, WOW!!!! I loaded my collector edition DVD the other day, just by curiosity, to see what it look like on my OLDE 64". I was pixelated and awful and it's was exactly that!!! The 4K looking and sound fantastic. I just hope that people would appreciate the new format instead of complaining all the time about the film grain. Hey, I watch the quality on DVD for years, your just lucky and don't know it.
@SP95
@SP95 5 ай бұрын
J'aimais bien la colorimétrie du DVD mais c'est vrai que l'UHD fait d'avantage cinéma
@simonmcpartlin6547
@simonmcpartlin6547 5 ай бұрын
Picture quality has come a long way. Lots of people have very discerning eyes today. I sit down in my cinema and enjoy. Some look and sound better than others. Stick to buying movies you really like. Once you get into it a good picture is as enjoyable as a great one. Great ones are for showing off.
@letonti69
@letonti69 5 ай бұрын
Wow 😍
@arnosolo5248
@arnosolo5248 5 ай бұрын
Hallelujah !!! Enfin une version plus que correcte de ce chef-d'œuvre !!! Message aux studios de cinéma ! On n'a pas que ça à faire d'attendre que vous ressortiez de vieux films en salle ! Qu'ils se bougent pour qu'on ait des versions au moins respectueuses de tous les films possibles ! Je pense que certains ont dû mourir de vieillesse avant d'avoir pu voir une version correcte de ce film ! ☠☠☠ Je ne suis pas complotiste, mais ça donne l'impression que les studios séquestrent des films dans des archives juste pour les garder jalousement pour eux ! Il ne faut pas attendre que le réalisateur ou des ayants droit quelconques réclame la Remasterisation pour lancer le processus ! Un moment donné, il faut reconnaitre qu'au fil du temps, une œuvre, peu importe laquelle n'appartient pas seulement à celui ou ceux qui l'ont créé et/ou produit !
@THEDREAMASTER
@THEDREAMASTER 5 ай бұрын
Where's the film grain?
@jonathannoble9465
@jonathannoble9465 5 ай бұрын
Sorry you’re just going to have to settle for crystal clear detail instead
@FiftyShadesOfDave6603
@FiftyShadesOfDave6603 4 ай бұрын
Digitally scrubbed by Daniel Laruso - wax on wax off!
@martincarlos3759
@martincarlos3759 5 ай бұрын
One of Cameron's Masterpieces before he went downhill beginning with True Lies in 1994.
@drewzalo
@drewzalo 5 ай бұрын
What dork you like about True Lies?
@RicardoGarcia-xz1rz
@RicardoGarcia-xz1rz 4 ай бұрын
Before he went uphill beginning with Titanic. 😊
@TheStOne1
@TheStOne1 5 ай бұрын
Please compare it with the HDTV version. DVDs are crap.
@BeberDag130482
@BeberDag130482 5 ай бұрын
The 2014 theatrical cut HDTV remaster looks better than the UHD. It's more filmlike, with grain retention, no waxy DNRed faces, genuine detail and 35mm texture, and no AI crap. The only reason to get the UHD is to have the special edition in a constant quality as opposed to fan reconstructions.
@TheStOne1
@TheStOne1 5 ай бұрын
@@BeberDag130482 I guessed so. What a missed opportunity to have a great restoration...
@jonathannoble9465
@jonathannoble9465 5 ай бұрын
@@BeberDag130482what 2014 thing are you referring to?
@jean-tom_schwarzene-lee
@jean-tom_schwarzene-lee 5 ай бұрын
La différence est extrêmement légère 🤣
@arnosolo5248
@arnosolo5248 5 ай бұрын
Je pense que certains ont dû mourir de vieillesse avant d'avoir pu voir une version correcte de ce film ! ☠☠☠
@rcio29
@rcio29 5 ай бұрын
nice vid💪
@SomebodyBumbleBee
@SomebodyBumbleBee 5 ай бұрын
I really do hate how pinkish tones are drowned out in modern editions. I know old DVDs weren't completely true to how the colours should look, but I refuse to believe this new version gets closer to how it actually looked theatrically.
@friedpickle8332
@friedpickle8332 5 ай бұрын
I haven't seen it in person, but just judging by this, I actually like the removal of the warmer tones. It really dials up the cold, dark, underwater atmosphere imo.
@SomebodyBumbleBee
@SomebodyBumbleBee 5 ай бұрын
@@friedpickle8332 I have no problem with anybody having a different preference than me, but it is a shame that we can't expect these releases to be faithful when there is no real alternative. I just dislike the anachronistic colours that remove the film from its artistic context.
@Quast
@Quast 5 ай бұрын
@@SomebodyBumbleBee in some scenes taking away all the warm hues really looks inhuman
@BeberDag130482
@BeberDag130482 5 ай бұрын
You're wrong. I've attended a 70mm screening in 2019 and was shocked to realize how accurate the color grading people had been complaining about since 2014 actually was. Before the 2014 remaster shown on Cinemax, there simply never was an accurate video master, and people got accustomed to bad ones, hence the complaining. The 2014 remaster and this mildly tweeked UHD color grading share the same color palette as the 70mm print I saw. It's in the ballpark, like 95% accurate. I wish all remasters would retain such amount of accuracy.
@friedpickle8332
@friedpickle8332 5 ай бұрын
@@BeberDag130482 I'm glad to hear that!
@magellan379
@magellan379 5 ай бұрын
A voir si pas trop de DNR pour les visages
@BeberDag130482
@BeberDag130482 5 ай бұрын
C'est surtout là que le bât blesse : les gros plans de visages lissés, trop plastique, sans pores de la peau. Le remaster HDTV qui circule depuis 2014 est en réalité de meilleure qualité, sans lissage, au rendu plus cinéma, plus argentique 35mm, avec d'authentiques détails captés par la caméra et non de faux détails artificiellement créés par l'IA de Park Road qui en redessine par rotoscopie. L'intérêt de cette édition UHD se limitera à avoir l'édition spéciale dans une qualité plus constante que les reconstructions faites par des fans, car le remaster HDTV de qualité supérieure n'était que la version courte cinéma.
@magellan379
@magellan379 5 ай бұрын
@@BeberDag130482 tous les Cameron sont comme ça en fait, T2 aliens idem
@BeberDag130482
@BeberDag130482 5 ай бұрын
​@@magellan379Hélas, oui. À un degré plus ou moins élevé. T2 et True Lies étant les pires, suivis d'Aliens qui a désormais un look trop chelou pour être acceptable, puis Abyss où ça commence à passer à peu près, d'autant plus qu'on a rien eu de mieux officiellement, puis Titanic qui ressemble au Blu-ray 2012 sous stéroïdes, et enfin Avatar qui s'en sort le mieux étant à 90% un long-métrage d'animation, et où ce tripatouillage n'est disgracieux que sur les 10% avec des humains. Que veux-tu ! Entre deux prises d'Avatar 72, le vieux sénile passe son temps à détruire sa carrière en vidéo en validant des masters ratés de ses vrais films, du temps où il faisait du cinéma et non de la vidéo. C'est triste à dire, mais j'adule autant ce mec à l'instant T de ses créations que je le maudis dans sa rétroactivité.
@jitrapornpha5104
@jitrapornpha5104 5 ай бұрын
No film grain. No sale
@samd3231
@samd3231 5 ай бұрын
Bonjour il est certain que là on va voir la différence car on passe du DVD au 4K mais bon malgré tout quand je vois votre démo j'ai quand même eu du mal à croire que l'image DVD était aussi dégueulasse lol je crois que je vais le tester de suite pour voir car dans mes souvenirs ce n'était pas aussi sale et de mauvaise qualité mais bon on oublie vite les choses peut-être..... en tout cas c'est pas trop tôt que le film sorte en 4K !!! ça fait des années qu'on entend ça !!! quand Cameronci met il sort 3 films d'un coup c'est peut être pour renflouer ces caisses pour continuer avatar 3 qui c'est....
@essereRacing
@essereRacing 5 ай бұрын
malheureusement abyss DVD était dégeulasse, proche d'une VHS.
@hdnumerique
@hdnumerique 5 ай бұрын
Les screenshots DVD sont authentiques.
5 ай бұрын
The Blu-ray was that horrible ? ( Im kidding )
@TheStOne1
@TheStOne1 5 ай бұрын
AI sharpening, DNR, teal filter all over the picture... This 4K release is another home media crime. Disgusting. Should be avoided at all cost.
@martinddhyj
@martinddhyj 5 ай бұрын
Still better than “Aliens“ and “True Lies“.
@jozdundar
@jozdundar 5 ай бұрын
Agreed... Read my other comments here on this. I go in much more detail
@ghostviggen
@ghostviggen 5 ай бұрын
You do understand that the DVD scan is to much magenta because of the scan technology of the 90s. The 4K version is superior.
@ColonelSternlove
@ColonelSternlove 5 ай бұрын
Proof?
@drewzalo
@drewzalo 5 ай бұрын
@@martinddhyjagreed, it’s the only one thats alright
@dannyjorde2677
@dannyjorde2677 5 ай бұрын
There's no way the Blu Ray was that awful.
@hdnumerique
@hdnumerique 5 ай бұрын
After upscaling it to 2160p resolution, this is the resulting output. Perform the same operation and you will see. And that's not a BRD but a DVD.
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