THE ACOLYTE EP 1 X2 SPOILER REVIEW! | The Big Thing

[@TheKristianHarloff]

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[@mikerotonda6264]

LOL!!! I think there is bad acting in too....but I'm afraid to say it!! Lol

[@cloverraven]

Sol looked at Osha like he knew she missed her shot on purpose.

[@Anthonycheesman33]

Yea I even thought she missed on it purpose and I’m dumb as hell lol.

[@bkslippy1]

You can see her aiming right at her sister and at the last second her arm shifts offtarget. It was a purposeful miss.

[@BlackNerd94]

Yep exactly! Like a disappointed dad moment smh

[@ZachBobBob]

@@alexp601 Yeah he seems to miss a lot in those reactions. Wish he'd rewatch the episodes after before reviewing them. Its not like they're long episodes

[@queenthatalwaysshouldvebee8760]

Agree!

[@callumhen95]

I didn’t like the trailers, and wasn’t sure what to expect. I found myself saying ‘that’s cool’ about small things. The story hasn’t intrigued me, if this wasn’t Star Wars i probably wouldn’t keep watching after these episodes. I hope it finds its groove.

[@alexlazzerly3677]

They did promote Scream with Drew Barrymore. That was the whole point.

[@PTJarman]

Great example. I'd forgotten about that. Wanted to see more Moss, but interested in how this will unfold.

[@jadedragon216]

Hey don't make fun of the elderly! Kristian's memory is not what it used to be!

[@michaeljeacock]

also Samuel L. Jackson in the Deep Blue Sea trailer.

[@jmorgan3977]

For real. She was on the poster. Kristian forgot.

[@Vulcanerd]

@@michaeljeacock To be fair Sam Jackson was in a good chunk of that movie.

[@SoulStylistJukeBox]

She didn’t want to hurt her sister that’s why she missed the shot.

[@Vulcanerd]

I think the stiffness and the stand-offishness of the Jedi is the point? The attitude and stance of the Jedi Order is ripped straight out of kinda generic Buddhism 101. Humans suffer. They suffer b/c they desire things. They desire money. They desire people. They desire power. If you remove that desire, you remove the suffering. And if you remove that desire, you can be clearer in your decision making b/c you don't have it clouding your judgement (and, as the Sith Code goes, it leans completely into the opposite direction, of course; you lean into your passion, into your desires, into your ambitions). I mean, I think most/all of us know this? But, I guess I'm surprised every time people seem surprised by how the Jedi behave?

[@AloisWeimar]

Meet more actual Buddhists in real life, we are not emotionless automatons

[@Vulcanerd]

@@AloisWeimar Lol, most of my family are and I live in a Buddhist dominant country, but thanks!

[@wesleyvanbarlingen7552]

I think it has to do with the execution of that theme. I get what you’re saying, but now they look like a police force. When they said, “Stop, in the name of the republic” was soooo cringe

[@AlbertoMartinez765]

yep George Lucas took a LOT of inspiration from Buddhism as well as Judaeo/Christian religions.

[@JoshLange3D]

They're probably surprised because most are American and desiring things is so baked into this culture.

[@GQMofo]

They basically did a Bryan Cranston with Carrie Ann. Remember for the first Godzilla movie, they made it seem like he was the star of the movie only for him to die around the beginning of the movie? That's what they did with Carrie Ann. I'm like Steph, I'm hoping that she comes back in a flashback also.

[@AlbertoMartinez765]

She in different places in the trailers so yeah there will be flashbacks showing what She and the other Jedi did to deserve to be killed. the fact that that Jedi master killed himself with poison rather then turn himself into the council speaks volumes.

[@aidanglenane8330]

She was in two scenes in the trailer we figured she was not going to be in it that much

[@rangersnut]

Trailers are short and you speak for yourself, as do I. The trailer made me think she would be in it more and would be a bigger character. I have seen many people suggest the same, including in this video.

[@darthstryk7169]

I feel like there are going to be flashbacks because when we first see Kelaka he looks like a regular wookie, but I've seen pictures of him in full Jedi garb, that must be a flashback.

[@JeremiahWise_]

Kristian made a great point. A show that cost $180 million you gotta start hot. I wish they would switch up their release model and have 10-12 FULL episodes. It just seems like they handcuff themselves and play it safe. There's no epic or grand scale feel like a house of the dragon and especially for a show of that budget.

[@OrionInSpace]

If you listen to what John Campos said yesterday about it, he brought up a great point. I think the idea of how much a budget is utilized for a show like this for example can also really come down to you as a filmmaker shoot it by the scale of its budget. The Acolyte visually feels like an $180 million show but it’s being shot like it’s on a smaller budget. John mentioned the idea that there are ways that shots are framed that make it look smaller than it probably should be and don’t show the actual scale of the world.

[@OneGaurdian]

Andor did 12 episodes, making it feel like it was dragging.

[@GregMcCoyUSC]

@@OneGaurdian Yea, I was bored watching Andor. A couple of good episodes, but very slow and drawn out for no reason.

[@jred201]

They need to just make these 2 hour movies. The Obi Wan fan edit movie is much better than the actual show.

[@GregMcCoyUSC]

@@jred201 yea, my feeling is if you're going to make it a TV show, make it a show, give us 12 - 15 episodes, tell a main story with a side quest. If it's meant to be a "limited series" then just make that a 5-6 hour movie and split it up into 2-3 parts.

[@travisrutters4198]

I really gave it a fair shot, I wanted to like it but in my opinion this show is just boring. There are very few redeeming qualities, at this point I just want to know who the sith is then I'm good.

[@JamesV15]

Me too boring 2 episodes. Not invested in this prequel tv series. Make star wars a story not a action fantasy

[@metallicnole4514]

It’s kinda how I felt about andor

[@ks2884]

The sith is Vernestra. That green Jedi lady. You're welcome.

[@travisrutters4198]

@ks2884 Is that real or are you just talking shit? Because that would be the dumbest reveal ever but somehow fitting since that's the woman dating the other lesbian show runner who is ruining star wars for everyone.

[@ks2884]

@@travisrutters4198 I don't know who's dating who. Wait till you see it.

[@ericsmith9547]

I completely disagree. I think Yord is was one of the best acted characters. Cause I believe he playing something very specific. And I do believe people are missing the point of the story character.

[@Fuzzybubbles01]

I'm wondering if this show ends up pooping an osterge egg with it's final numbers that it may be a long time before Disney tells a story in this time period again.

[@Thedukeofderps]

Lord Harloff strong as you may be in the force. Even you cannot withstand the HORDE of the YORD!

[@Ben1159a]

May missed that shot on purpose. It could not have been any more obvious. She didn't want to shoot her sister, simple.

[@AlbertoMartinez765]

you can see her not pointing directly at her sister.

[@Ben1159a]

@@AlbertoMartinez765 Yeah exactly

[@travissmith6380]

Maybe Kristian doesnt remember, but SCREAM heavily marketed Drew Barrymore in those first bunches of trailers. Everyone was shocked back then when she died in the first 5. It was a long time ago, easy to forget these things.

[@andrew-jv7iv]

Blue Eye Samurai would have been a great Acolyte tv show.

[@Patrick-wl6pw]

I see blue

[@TaoistWay]

It was a big mistake to kill off Moss without giving the audience time to know the character first...the audience will just think of her as Trinity...the death had no emotional weight. Just ends up being oh Trinity died. Also, why do a murder mystery when the mystery is only for the characters in the show not for the audience...just doesn't make it interesting for the viewer. It's like watching a game on recording when you know the outcome...boring

[@AlbertoMartinez765]

She will be in a bunch of Flashbacks don't worry about it. The Mystery is What horrible thing did the Jedi do to these girls and their village and who the Sith Master is.

[@Vulcanerd]

@@AlbertoMartinez765 I think that’s a safe bet, but it still doesn’t make Indara’s death have weight since she dies so quickly. And, even if we see her later in flashbacks, I’m willing to bet it’s when they are committing the wrongdoing so we’ll get our answer as to why Mae is so angry, but it likely won’t be in sequences where we get to like her.

[@IndianaJake]

I've had a day to digest, and while I still feel like the episodes were overall kinda boring, I am still mildly interested in the story. I think there's definitely a weird connection between the 2 sisters. Like maybe they're a dyad or somethin. When Osha shot at Mae it definitely seemed like she missed on purpose, but she knew the jedi weren't far behind so she still had to look convincing in trying to stop Mae

[@Teeto1994]

They even make a point to have Sol say she knows how to use it

[@IndianaJake]

@@alexp601 okay but calm down a little. Her blaster shots at Mae were horrible. If she wanted them to be convincing, she should've shot better. She literally has the force. So I understand the nitpick

[@hakimzane]

Kristian, I'm really happy to see you giving more honest reviews and calling out both sides of the fandom. I'm going to drop MY side of the "inclusion" topic. I'm a half Indian man in the world of professional wrestling. What roles do you think i get put in? I've managed to do my own thing and do it very well. However, when i worked for certain bigger promotions, all I was to many was "the Indian wrestler". It's cool representing your people, but not when thats the ONLY thing you can be. No one with fire in their belly wants to be put in a box. I want everyone to relate to me AS WELL as my people. This inclusion/diversity stuff SOMETIMES gets included for the WRONG reasons. Good characters are good characters no matter what the color, race, etc. Just my take. Hopefully it makes sense. Great stream.

[@EleventhCubFan]

I am Yorde Ya Ya Ya. Every time I see people stan Yorde or see him, I think of Randy as Lorde from South Park.

[@Vulcanerd]

Jedi Knight Swolo Yordo

[@calilewis9330]

I'm in the middle with this show. Some parts i like and some parts I didn't. I'm going to stick with it. Hopefully it will ramp up

[@krislyons2793]

It really isn't a murder mystery at all. We already know who did it, and we already have a vague idea of why.

[@jim1242]

yeah, are we sure RianJohnson isnt back writing this?!

[@peteparker22]

We have no idea who the Master is and what his motive is

[@splitfinger7719]

That’s because they used the free version of ChatGPT to write this crap

[@insidemymindinc]

@@jim1242seriously!! Rian Johnson knives out was not a well written movie at all

[@Pixelkip]

@@insidemymindinclol said no one ever

[@ericstorm5285]

I’m surprised I actually enjoyed the first 2 episodes. It’s not great but not bad. 7.5 out of 10 so far

[@beermeBrow]

New Star Wars little tiny knives klll Jedi, light SABERS stab Reva , stab Sabine nada.

[@mrfloosak]

Like in real life with bullets and knoves it depends on which organs are hit.

[@mrfloosak]

@@SiriuslyBlack7 a bullet will kill you so why wouldn’t a tiny knife thrown with the strength of The Force. It’s not the size. It’s the speed or force that penetrates your skin and organs that kills you

[@tiniestavenger6329]

Im sorry thats just bullshit. Lol. Sabine got a lightsaber ran through her and the very next day shes sitting up on her bed, cracking jokes and ready to jump back into the mission. Atleast Reva was crawling. Theres just no consistency. They opened an unnecessary can of worms having people survive what has always been, fatal lightsaber attacks.

[@darthstryk7169]

Indara I got stabbed in the heart. I have a freeze frame of the image right here. That knife went straight through her chest and into her heart. You might be able to survive the stab that Sabine got, maybe Riva, maybe not, but you're definitely not surviving a stab wound to the heart lol.

[@darthstryk7169]

​@@mrfloosakshe got stabbed in the heart.

[@jim1242]

It's funny that they cast the actor who played Tommen Baratheon from Game of Thrones to play Jedi master Torbin. Did lucasfilm see the the scene of Tommen jumping out the window, and think “ this actor would be perfect for drinknig a bottle of poison“ !?

[@SarahLandry577]

Wait, that was Tommen??

[@jim1242]

@@SarahLandry577 yes , the must have aged him with some dodgy make up and beard!

[@MoramothHauntz]

That's funny. Hoping we get some flashbacks with him

[@bigt2079]

He looks ridiculous. It’s almost hilariously bad.

[@mannyg8846]

I love that you two do an honest review.There’s so much hatred going around online about The Acolyte.I feel the same way about the show..it’s not horrible!It’s fine.I will continue watching and I want to believe that it has some potential.🤔🤷🏻

[@superpowerman4354]

Why I love the show so far after 3 episodes. 1. Fantastic Fight choreography 2. Carri Ann Moss 3. Darker tone 4. Real consequences 5. A Show focused on the Force. And I yes I completely agree the writing is way better than Obi Wan and Boba Fett Great Review

[@seanburtt1741]

To me it looks and feels like a fan film. The world doesn’t look lived in at all, it looks like a movie set it’s all so clean and flat. I mean that Wookiee costume you can literally see the human underneath it. Surprised you thought it looked good

[@Dergo666]

Yeah and I'm kinda surprised that Kristian is praising the acting of Amandla Stenberg... I felt like she was stiff as a board. I felt like her emotion and voice stays kinda the same through the first two episodes. And I mean she's been through some tough shit in those episodes. Crashing with space ship from orbit, finding out the sister she thought was dead is alive, going undercover as her sister, SEES her sister and I feel like she never showed any emotion or changed pitch in her voice. Like I said felt stiff as a board. She doesn't feel alive just like the world.

[@tylerhenk87]

Agreed 100%. Doesnt feel like Star Wars

[@bigt2079]

This. It feels like someone watched some clips and then put together a show displaying what they think Star Wars should be.

[@AlbertoMartinez765]

Clean other then the Jedi clothes..the world is very lived in and "real" keep in mind this is taking place in the more lived in areas this isn't the Outer RIM which is the sh#thole of the galaxy. And its a Thriving Republic not the dystopian hell of the empire.

[@rangersnut]

Yeah for all the budget it looks cheap. The make up looks like 90s Star Trek in places. The sets look fake.

[@kevthepoet]

I refuse to believe Kristian thought she missed by accident. That was obviously she just couldn't kill her sister ffs lol

[@AlbertoMartinez765]

You can see her aiming AWAY from her sister she just couldn't do it.

[@NerdsEngage]

Now putting some more thought behind that opening fight when she recognizes who is under the mask and sees the tattoo on the forehead she says "what are you doing here" like she knew she was alive and wondered why she came there. Why did they lie to the twins that the other was dead. Was their mom like vader and they could only take one to hide? Damn now typing this I realize I'm really invested. Please don't make me regret it again.

[@heathjones_]

I’ve been watching you for a long time Kristian. I found you because of Star Wars when Force Awakens was coming out. I just want to say it bums me out hearing how you’ve felt about the last several Star Wars projects. (Some I agree with you and others I don’t). I really hope a project comes out soon that locks you in the way this stuff used to. Maybe Andor Season 2.

[@vendovi3057]

I actually think Amandla Stenberg's acting in this show is horrid tbh... i was surprised to see people saying its good

[@adamstark04]

I gave it a shot. I’ve watched a lot of videos by people I follow and respect, Kristian is one of the very few that actually detailed what he thought was negative about it. Most others would stop short of saying they liked it to save credibility but they were afraid to state what didn’t work in fear of the corporate consequences and social push back. Thank you Kristian for just being honest with your viewers.

[@TimProVision]

I think my biggest continuing issue which is even more so evident in this series is that everything feels so rushed. We are more or less in an entire new universe that we have never seen before and we can't get any more back story to these characters? I might care after the end of the show but I don't really feel anything when they kill off these characters because I've only been with them for 2 to 3 minutes. Another 15 to 20 minutes of backstory in these episodes to learn more would be wonderful. I still enjoyed the first couple episodes though. Edit: 19:30, your comments about essence of the force in episode have me massively worried 😂

[@BadCoyoteFunky]

👋 Hey Kristian, audio tip for remote calls, for better quality, have the other person record their mic through a program like “audacity”, send it to you (or your editor), edit into video, then use that for the upload. zoom calls often sound lower in quality, you can hear it when Steph speaks. This way you get the full sound with the zoom bitrate distortion

[@jdashy23]

I’m really liking what I’ve seen from Acolyte so far. Some issues with it but overall I like it and very intrigued. Very grateful it wasn’t as cringey as Ahsoka. Really hoping it doesn’t fall off but so far I find it much better then book of boba fett, mando season 3, Kenobi and especially Ashoka.

[@jdashy23]

To quickly follow up, the character decisions are my biggest negative. Can’t stand Yord. With that said, I’ve been seeing a lot of negative chatter & nitpicking around the “fire in space.” Give me a break. It’s not that big of a deal.

[@williamplants67]

Is it nitpicking or is it bafflement in reaction to a severe lack of attention to detail.

[@jdashy23]

@@williamplants67well I guess it just depends. For example, the same concept is applied for sound in space. I guess I just find it frustrating when we get all upset over something like fire in space but then don’t blink an eye when it comes to sound. I.E the sound tie fighters make in space is the same principle as fire in space. Neither would happen in space.

[@jdashy23]

I do agree that I find attention to detail really lacking in most streaming series nowadays. It’s very frustrating

[@justinschultz4325]

It's fine to introduce NEW ideas into Star Wars. It's not ok to change something that has long been long established to push an agenda. I might be out after episode 3.

[@leosylver7]

Twins who have never seen each other in years just HAPPEN to have to the same exact haircut... Same makeup... What the funk?

[@bigt2079]

The Force works in mysterious ways. They can probably each survive a lightsaber to the gut as well, although I hear daggers might do them in.

[@AlbertoMartinez765]

Not that hard to believe if its a traditional hair style from wherever they are from, look at the Beehive Hairdo of the 60's or the Caesar Haircut of today or a fade. really though it was done to confuse the Show watchers to not know they were twins until later. though The Tattoo on Mae forehead gave it away to me early. Also some women reactors pointed out Mae hair is slightly longer ..to hide the tat prob.

[@Tyerhone117]

I absolutely loved the first two episodes. Unfortunately, that means Kristian doesn't care about my opinion lol.

[@TheKristianHarloff]

Hahahhaha not true! LOVE that you loved it! I am just saying that 1. Dont (and you aren't) force that you love it so I have to love it. 2. I don't know if you are the type of fan that loves everything and if you do that is wonderful, it just means that I probably wouldn't go to you first to see what you thought because I can guess. Make sense?

[@Smitty1a1]

Hey Kristian love the show! I tried a different approach this time with their shows. Like you I was waiting years for this to come out but this time I didn’t watch trailers outside of the first one. I didn’t go looking for reviews, or tv spots or dig for articles that would have bolstered my expectations like it did for kenobi. So I went into the show not knowing very much. I wanted to love the series but after 2 episodes I was like meh. It wasn’t terrible but it’s also not a show I’ll rewatch down the road either. Biggest issue SW has today is that when Lucas ran it, it was about the story and he did it his way, the way he wanted it told and if it made a fortune that was a bonus. A New Hope almost didn’t happen due to budget and yet it’s one of the most successful movies of all time in my opinion. Today’s SW Disney cares more about the profit and the story is secondary and it shows. The franchises is getting pulled in 30 directions with too many visions and it’s not working. SW is surviving because of the name not the stories today. Outside of a couple of hits they haven’t really done anything exciting. I’m 50 so I’ve grown up with it from the start not during the sequel times. Thoughts? Thanks for the content!! Amazing work!!

[@EddyG-96]

Ive noticed a change in your feelings towards starwars and if im being honest it kinda started making me feel down about starwars especially after watching your non spoiler review and honsedyly with the recent starears shows being okay (i dont like the dialogue, or lack of i should say) . But man let me tell you when i finished watching both of the Acolyte episodes with my girlfriend we loved it! I enjoy ALL of the characters, the world, the music and the story. Yes it was predictable (it was alreasy speculated that she was a twin before the show)but they spoon fed all the info to you because thats not the mystery, the nystery is what did the jedi do that a master would take the barosh vow and then kill himself? I read most of the high republic books but not the recent stuff yet and itl really liked the subtle nods they made like Yord and Vanestra being stoic and dogmatic. They are respresentations of what the jedi become in the prequels, as they get more involved in politics and move from peacekeeprs to lapdogs of corrupt politicians. Yord was so quick to reach for his saber and start a fight compared to the older Jedi Sol and Indara who never used there sabers and showed much more emotion and compassion (Sol trusting Osha about her dead sister) I just am really into this show.and to me man, it sounds like you need a break from starwars and focus on other content you enjoy more otherwise youll just end up watching starwars with the expectation that itll be bad and then will only look for flaws, idk you of course but just something I noticed and hope that starwars will one day excite you again as this show isnt the one thats doing it for you. Take care!

[@TheBlecht]

I don’t get when Rocha said the show is directed well. It’s the director’s job to get the most out of actors and she’s definitely not doing that. It feels “meh” and most of the performances are sub-par.

[@ShazammtheProducer]

You nailed it

[@JavTheJoker]

I agree, performances are not great. I hope they don't use that they were following prequels as an excuse.

[@Zsmot858]

Carrie Ann moss was already shown in flashbacks in the trailers. The killing a Jedi without a weapon thing is a metaphor - he doesn’t actually mean don’t use a weapon. He means kill the dream of the Jedi so that the galaxy loses faith in them - which the Sith eventually do, obviously, based on the prequels.

[@starwarsrevealed2046]

It was a different kind of Star Wars show and it did a good job of feeling like a different time period. Great sets world building and acting.

[@superby1]

I wanted to weigh in because there were a lot of great points in this episode. In terms of fandom I'm somewhere in the middle where I don't love everything Disney has done with Star Wars but there's been things I've genuinely liked. Kristian was spot on in that the last time we as a fanbase were on the same page was season one and two of The Mandalorian. Season Two was almost four years ago. Think about that for a second. In four years we haven't had anything for all of us to get excited about. Everything has been middle of the road at best. After a while you just get tired of it because you know what you're gonna be in for: A show that should focus on one aspect but pivots to the next. Filler episodes. A little too much fan service, and the arguments. One side is gonna hate everything with the other is gonna label you an "-ist" if you don't love it immediately. Sadly the Acolyte is no different. And I don't see it changing any time soon. It's gotten to the point where I might bow out soon. It's exhausting and what they've churned out isn't worth going through this new pattern. I think we should watch things we enjoy rather than hate watching (which I never understood) or not enjoying something but sticking it out to see if it eventually gets better. There's other shows out there that deserve our attention and time.

[@jdashy23]

Thanks for the video Kristian! The only thing I disagree with you on Kristian is the fandom being united with mando season 1 & 2. For me personally, I have felt like Star Wars hasn’t been a fun space or fandom since before the Last Jedi released (which I liked). It was fun to talk about Star Wars until then and since then it has not been fun to talk about without getting a ton of shit

[@venenders170]

My issue is that the High Republic era was built on and heavily advertised as this is the era where the Jedi live up to all the legends and expectations that Obiwan told Luke about. Knights of Truth and Justice in the galaxy, and yet in the first live action show set in this era the Jedi seem no different than those in the prequel era. I feel like the show is going to continue down the route of “the Jedi aren’t who you think they are and they’re not as good as they believe”. Which is the same drum Disney/Lucasfilm has been banging on for every era and every movie/show. It’s like I get wanting to subvert what is known or be a deconstruction of how Star Wars is viewed but if that’s all you do it’s no longer subversion and it just ruins the original. Example I’m tired of dark,gritty,evil Superman I just want to see the blue Boy Scout, that’s how I feel about the Jedi. Can I just get a character like Luke trying to do good as best he can without being some example or metaphor for oppression, corruption or military/religious zealotry.

[@tiniestavenger6329]

Nailed it.

[@cloverraven]

I’m aware that you’ve seen the first four episodes… But going off the two I just don’t think that I can make a fair judgment. Because after two episodes of Andor, I was like eh it’s fine. And now it’s one of the best shows I’ve ever ever seen. So I’m just gonna take it as a learning experience for the rest of time that I need three or four minimum.

[@bamm86]

The CW lighting they went for is also lame. Like why make the conscious decision to go with that CW teen soap opera lighting? Ugh dumb.

[@iansmart4158]

Have yall actually seen a CW show? The teen soaps on the CW look way better than the acolyte. 90210 is a really well shot show.

[@bamm86]

“Well shot” is subjective. I used to watch all the arrow verse shows. The lighting is very much like the acolyte’s. It’s done on purpose. It’s basically a lighting option and for whatever reason, they wanted to do a Star Wars show with that teen soap opera drama lighting.

[@ShazammtheProducer]

May sucks as a villan but Osha is kinda good. I hate May so much. Im glad they got all the bullshit out the way in the first 2 episodes

[@curtis4176]

Acolyte… An acolyte of what?… to be revealed at the end of the season. Fun Acolyte, a show about a mysterious master McGuffin. That means the show called Acolyte has nothing to do about a Sith and acolyte relationship but the trauma of twin sisters. I am confused, have I been misled? Did I assume to much from the title?

[@falcongunner33]

I liked the show a lot. It really feels like a departure from Star Wars that we know and I think that was MUCH needed. So far it’s well written, acted, directed and produced

[@JohnnyPappas]

I totally disagreed with everything that Christian has said about the show. However, I’ll chalk that all up to him being a Yankee fan. In all seriousness, I really enjoyed the first two episodes a lot and look forward to the rest of the series.

[@t.a.m678]

This is the first Star Wars tv show that I’m happy to wait until the final episode is out and then just binge watch the whole season. First two episodes just weren’t exciting enough for me to care….trying my best to avoid spoilers every week though is hard! Can’t wait for Andor season 2!

[@resh4299]

Why would you cast a taekwondo black belt (Manny Jacinto) to play a bit of a buffoon poison-maker who can "get us off this planet" (emphasis on us), knows where the wookie is (on a jungle planet). Now think about the kind of scenery/environment we see the jedi face this sith in the trailers (spoiler: jungle). TLDR Manny Jacinto is the sith.

[@EleventhCubFan]

I like the Acolyte so far. Hopefully it can continue to be good. Most Disney+ shows don’t stick the landing. Hopefully this one does.

[@jackthomas2051]

1. Hard disagree. Bad writing, horrible dialogue, terrible acting by some. 2. In Episode 3 they break Star Wars.

[@Dxnttv]

I SURPRISINGLY liked it so far. Andor is the only Star Wars I’ve loved since Rogue one, but this show I feel has the most POTENTIAL out of everything we’ve gotten recently. Fight choreography is top tier, actors are actually showing emotions, sets and everything look great…….. the down side is we’re a quarter of the way in and we’ve only had an hour with these characters. If each episode was able to spend an extra 10-15 minutes to dive more into the characters I actually think this would be great. The writers not only have to write ALL new characters, but they also have to make a strong compelling story, yet each episode is short as shit so they truly limited the quality this show could have hit.

[@IsiahBradley]

THANKS!!! I'm glad the Star Wars people don't use the same ol' music. I'm *so* tired of those themes/motifs [DUCKS :) ] I'll have patience but I admit you are making me adjust my expectations as I move on to Episode 3. The fact that folks are all saying similar things--ex: cosplay criticism--is a bad sign...

[@bctalkspod]

This just makes me even more excited for the DCU shows now. I really think that James Gunn is going to have his creatives put their all into the DCU shows and that the DCU shows are going to hit much harder and be more exciting to casual fans than the recent Marvel & Star Wars shows and because of that it will force Disney to put a little bit more work into crafting their stories for fear of being left behind. A sort of rising tide raising all ships. If the DCU can hit like Fallout S1, House of the Dragon & Last of Us it will do much more for Marvel/Star Wars than Deadpool 3 can long-term

[@bkslippy1]

I wasn’t locked in after two episodes of Andor but I was intrigued enough to see where it was going. That is exactly how I feel about this show right now. I am really hoping this turns into something really cool because it has potential right now.

[@SoulStylistJukeBox]

The guy who drank the poison is in the trailers - without a beard - so we will see him and the other Jedi’s in flashbacks. Let’s be patient and let the story unfold before getting too critical.

[@MADCHELLO]

being a person that didn't grow up with Star wars until I was a teenager I can say that for me, this is star wars. Writing was never that good, always more interested in bringing the younglings to watch and being CWish, since the original trilogy. Please, ep 6 we have teddy bears with rocks and sticks overthrowing an army with tanks and guns.

[@Gmarzi]

Nice way to put Kristian. My thoughts on the show pretty much echo yours. So far I give it a 6/10 so I guess that means I like it for the most part. I definitely think you're on the right track as far as who the "Master" is, and if it is him, it was way too obvious, I have no clue who your other pick is yet. I kind of now what happens in ep 3, but I'm going to wait to see it before forming any opinions on it. When I first heard about the premise of this show I was excited, but that seems like it was a long time ago. And since then, Star Wars has been meh to me. Although I did enjoy Ahsoka.

[@pascalmaranus]

I do agree that Yord sticks out like a sore thumb. But I also feel that it's by design. At least I hope it is.

[@Unworshipediety]

I just thought he was female eye candy. Sorta like Princess Amidala was in some respects at first.

[@JavTheJoker]

He's intentionally a boy scout

[@pascalmaranus]

That's what I was thinking as well. Annoying as it may be, it's probably so he can loosen up down the line.

[@OrionInSpace]

It probably is by design because the way he’s written he comes off as the most pretentious, by the book and rules Jedi you could think of. Some people made the comparison that he feels like a more infuriating Obi-Wan.

[@bigt2079]

Halfway hoping it’s a misdirect and he’s not whom he appears to be, because otherwise, zzzZzzZzzz.

[@cortezismyman]

I enjoyed the show. There are some issues, ship design, some flat looking space scenes. Love the new take on fighting, the hand to hand and "force forward" fighting.

[@jeffreyroedel9804]

I think starting the show with a flashback to what actually happened, like why Mae wants to kill these four Jedi, then the whole context and tone of the show would be so much better. Right now, we have no idea why they are being hunted, or if what they did was all that bad, so there's not a lot of tension, it's just like "oh ok this is happening." If we knew what happened up front, we'd be having the internal debate of who's right, who's justified and it would be a lot more tense and dramatic. And this way, we would have gotten to know Indara more before she was killed?

[@SonicDangles]

The DEI and forced-casting unfortunately takes me out of it. I don't understand why lucasfilm seems to have such disdain for their own fan base. There are elements in this that I like. For example, the visualsl and the world does feel like Star wars but it has this corporate skin over the top.

[@KD-Lewis]

This is the type of podcast we need in this community. HONEST BALANCED REVIEWS. Not “it’s bad cos women”

[@jtFacts77]

I think some fans want too much. Just enjoy the show and stop comparing it to others. I liked it and I'm looking forward to the next episodes.

[@Ruleof2Review]

I like the show after two episodes. Not sure why people are so down on it. And keep in mind I haven’t been a fan the Disney-era Star Wars for the most part. I like Yord too btw. Don’t understand why he stands out so much lol. I really enjoy hearing the Jedi converse with each other (on Coruscant) and discuss some of their philosophies on overcoming emotion and avoiding the need for revenge. That’s the kind of stuff George wrote about and it’s my favorite part of Star Wars.

[@martfp88]

Here are my predictions for the plot: Why is Mae looking for vengeance? : the Jedi had a vision of her being a powerful sith in the future and made the decision to kill her (attempt to), or something along those lines. This is like what Luke almost did against Kylo. I think Mae will die, but not before planting the seeds of doubt across jedis, making some of them turn to the dark side (or maybe just one)... Basically showing that Maes Master used her for this purpose, because the fight against the Jedi is not about a direct confrontation but slowly make them rotten.

[@talondiwisch5206]

This girl seems extremely chill… It’s funny to watch.

[@markkuykendall5475]

Rando thoughts: *Floaty/Meditation/Guilt-Complex Torbin/Torben(?) What I wanna know is how in the hell did he get those horrifying scars on his face and why bacta didn't fix him? Hasn't talked to anyone for -what did they say?- 10 or 15 years. Holy shit. While we're on it, holy crap, those "local yokel" Jedi at that temple? Damn.... *Re: Sol and "everyone" liking him and comparing him to Qui-Gon....They two don't feel the same to me; not really. I can see why people would draw a comparison where Sol (and he uses the very word, "faith") believes in and advocates for Osha when QG does roughly similar things for wee Anakin, but past that, I see in Sol more uhhh, more warmth. Sol is what OB1 should have been to keep Anakin from the dark side. He's a more caring figure to me. Qui-Gon was somehow more majestic or some shit like that, less down-to-earth. *Sol had that line, tho: about the enemies of the Jedi who might capitalize on some kind of media cluster-f if it became known that a former padawan was knocking off Jedi, like that would be scandal; he was responding and agreeing with Venestra Rho's reasoning. Okay, fine: I wanna know more about that. I wanna know more about who the enemies of the Jedi are at this point in the supposedly peaceful era of the Republic. *Yord. Okay? Yord Fandar. Damn mofos, get it right. For me, dude started out flatter than an old dusty carpet; felt exactly like all the talking d-bags in the Jedi Council during the Prequel Trilogy. I'm softer on him now then I was at the very beginning not because I think he's any more interesting to listen to talk (he's not) but because it's obvious he's kinda perceptive and he has some integrity. Good for him........and then, later on, Kristian says they feel just like the Ep1 Jedi. Boom. That's right. *Osha's on the outer hull of the Neimodian bucket with that other dude and they're doing work. When the fire started, I literally yelled at the screen, "where the EFF are the astromech droids?!" It was nice for me that the show straight away addressed that little detail. Was it an important thing? Nahhh. Did it help me to think to think to myself that Ms. Headland cared enough about SW that she'd dot her i's and cross her t's? Yeah; Absolutely. On the flipside, that in a galaxy as big as that one it, that the Jedi could mistakenly track down Osha in less than two or three days made me irrationally angry enough that it almost killed the series for me? Uhhhh, yeah, almost. I know that I'm being a total idiot, here, but that's how I felt. People will say, "yeah, dude, but Headland and crew were under serious time and pacing constraints and they had to get the plot rolling. They had to get Osha and the Jedi into close contact, etc. right away." I would respond, "really, they had to? Why not tell a slightly different story without this crappy unrealistic and forced thing?" I dunno, maybe I'm spoiled by Andor. F you, Tony Gilroy!!!! :) *Mando S1 and 2 were pretty good. I still have 'em on my HD now. Everyone likes to talk about them like they were some kinda benchmark for "uniting the fandom." Okay, sure; whatever. I thought they were good, honest, I did. But they weren't Empire Strikes Back good; not even. Andor was that good. *Re: The money going to visuals: I saw SW in the theaters in 1977. SW has been in my life since I was a five year old kid. I can absolutely see a mat painting now when I couldn't when I was a kid or, I could, but I didn't care. I didn't care. I didn't care. I know why the volume was created; I know exactly why: primarily because highly reflective surfaces look way way more realistic and become easier to do when they can reflect the ambient environment AND, because lighting looks way better when the ambient environment light colors match up with what what the rest of t he production team are trying to do in terms of setting. Don't believe me? Don't cry about it, ask a vfx pro or a game industry artist and STFU. That being said, the production could have saved a small amount of money by not featuring Neimodians. Their Neimodian-ness was cool but didn't serve the story. They were just eye candy. *Humor: "Can you give me a hand?!!!" *Oh so convenient that Osha and Mei/May have the same hairstyle. Not in any way realistic but makes it more believable that the yokel bartender and the Jedi actually believe that Osha is the perp. *Jacinto/Qimir is def not just a clever and talented drunk and d-bag. We see aspects of this reality twice: He very briefly uses competitive martial arts vs. Mei/May for a few seconds when he has to. Second, he figures out Osha isn't Mei/May in less then 45 seconds; "you look just like her." So, not only possessed of uncommon physical prowess, but also very perceptive AND capable of dealing with surprise and stress with balance and aplomb. At least as perceptive as the Jedi. Great under pressure. The Jedi were ALL up in his grill and he acted exactly as he should have: like a rube; freaked out and 100x out of his depth. Ohh, y'all get into this very thing, later. :) *Osha fire's the stun weapon and misses wide on purpose. Mei/May rolls out of the scene immediately. Both sisters showed remarkable control under stunning and high-pressure circumstances. What would you do if you found out that a sibling you absolutely loved was not only alive but also, on the other side from you? How would you react? * If t hey focus on "the sister thing" it makes avoiding continuity/canon conflict easier to avoid. Headland doesn't have to make a liar out of Ki Adi Mundi. *Steve "the hair" Harrington is not dead. * Re: Turns.....If there's a "turn," Mei/May AND Osha at the same time, will both run away. They "good" sister AND the "bad" sister will leave the chessboard. together. *As bad at Ep8 tLJ was, Ep9 RoS was considerably worse. At least the Last Jedi was trying to be something kinda sophisticated and interested. It failed in a lot of aspects, but it was trying. Rise of Skywalker was undoubtedly THE crappiest piece of canon SW media ever created. Both seasons of Resistance were better and most of your subscribers probably don't even remember what I'm talking about. *On "coming back swinging," People were totally fine with MacGregpr as OB1 and Glover as Lando, but they hated Ehrenreich as Solo. Why? For the same reason that a cover band won't have to deal with shit from the fandom if they do a really good job. When Baylon Skol gets recast, the fans will be totally okay with it if whoever looks REASONABLY right (the fans will be forgiving about this part) and is really good. If he's not good, he'll get crucified because Stephenson was excellent and has established expectations and woah to the sorry bastard who fails. Fans will forgive and accept when shown excellence. House of the Dragon S2 (I'm not watching) is probably no exception. If you can get about 75-80% of any fandom to buy in? Yeahhh, you're good. If not, you're going to attract the usual gaggle of opportunistic and clever social media dipshits making bank off of disrespect. *On growing out of Star Wars: Lucas was recently at Cannes, right? He said stuff. The Old Man was a Cannes, right?" He reiterated that SW was a kids story. That's the story he wanted to tell, and (mostly) tell it, he did. Now, we have Andor, (and snippets off other canon shit) that really do feel grown up. This makes sense because you have fans, like me, who are now in their 50s or older. Kids are only kids for a short time. Adults are adults for much longer. What if the SW canon was to shift to an adult focused "story/universe/franchise" with generous open hands extended to kids instead what we have now which is the other way around. I'd bet Steff would be a lot happier. Like, what if uhhh, what was her name? Petunia Dursely? What if she actually said, "fuck the Empire?" *Okay, I'll watch Dark Matter. I wasn't going to, but I will now. *Mei/May isn't all that good; she's athletic and fancy which makes her fun to watch. Indara (who she gets with a cheap shot) and Sol both make her look like a loser. For that matter, so does scarface Torben. Aw yeah, you guys totally get it. :) *On The Book of Bobba Fett as a gangster story: This is repeat of the previous issue where SW is still seen by the great media powers of the world as a kids thing more than an adult thing with Andor being the exception AND THE ONLY REASON Gilroy got away with that is because he made something so good that Disney couldn't say no. If you flip that, THEN you free up Rodriguez to have made B of BF as an actual gangster story. SW has an issue right now where a significant portion of its fanbase, myself included, are way WAY past childhood. We want things we're usually not getting. Sometimes, we're don't mind that much, sometimes we mind a whole lot. The other thing with this particular show that the fans are kind of expecting, particularly given Ms. Headland's rhetoric about the story giving lots of time and focus to the Sith is the challenge of how to make the bad guys protagonists while not making them particularly sympathetic. SW has almost never had interesting bad guys. The Empire villians were mostly carboard and the First Order douches were even worse (F you, JJ, you lousy hack; you messed up Star Trek AND SW) for instance, pretty much the only time Palpatine was interesting was the opera house scene in RotS. But the trouble with making the bad guys interesting and maybe sympathetic is that you make the entire story more realistic and "murkey" in its morality and ethics; more like a classic novel. THAT can't really be done well in a "kid's story" format unless a bunch of creators are absolute geniuses.

[@Jacob0128]

Overall, I’m not impressed so far, but willing to ride it out for a bit longer because Sol is giving me all I need really. One minor nitpick: I don’t like hearing phrases like “Go get Lunch” and “What the Hell” in Star Wars. There were more examples than that, but that dialogue Feels very ~earthy~.

[@YoTrev88]

I think it is time to take a step back from Star Wars and revisit it when there's something to talk about. I watched the first two episodes last night and I agree with most criticisms out there on social media. For a show that's supposed to be taking place at the end of the high republic era it doesn't feel like the high republic. Disney is so afraid to make more adult related content like Andor and this just opens them up to more criticism down the road.

[@nikejoy12]

I thought it was ok. Action was pretty decent but the dialogue and editing are a bit off at times. I think my biggest hang up over the show is that I don't quite get why they chose this instead of finally starting to adapt some of the High Republic novels. The conflict with the Nihil is such a fascinating change of tone and pace yet it feels like they're afraid to even mention outside of minor easter eggs.

[@dagreenflamingo105]

Well now to me the murder mystery is now who and why did their family get killed in that fire, like did the Jedi know they had abilities and were scared so they killed them and then took their kids to train them ??

[@OrionInSpace]

I’m really confused as to why people believe that the idea of the murder mystery was to not know that they were twins. Like are we just forgetting that there’s a sith out there right now lol? That person whoever it is is the person the murder mystery is based around. Yes, Mae is the catalyst to it but the Sith person is where the juice is.

[@danielperoni9042]

Hey Kristina, what do you think the chances are that Endaras death was fake and she is the sith master? Carrie Anne moss is too good not to be a huge deal in the show and I feel it’s possible by “killing her off” in the first episode they intend to distract us. Would love to know your thoughts

[@crbsideprophet134]

I was thinkin this too but then does that mean the Jedi never picked her body up lol. They just heard she died and moved on? 😂

[@danielperoni9042]

@@crbsideprophet134 if the sith are infiltrating the Jedi ranks at this point in the high republic she could have had help covering it up? I’m not saying it’s definite but I would kind of dig that if it’s true

[@crbsideprophet134]

@@danielperoni9042 yeah, that’s a good point. I was definitely thinking this and maybe Indara wanted her death seen in public to get this whole thing in motion. But I hope whatever it is, it’s a good reveal

[@danielperoni9042]

@@crbsideprophet134 Good Point! once the series ends I’ll remember this conversation and see how close we got!!

[@EyeBelieveSo]

I loved Kristian’s initial review, he was being too nice about it when we all know by now Disney killed SW

[@FancastFanatic]

I thought it was obvious that O’sha missed May on purpose bc she wanted to help her get away. If she shot closer to the car it would’ve seemed like she’s just a bad shot but she clearly shoots away from her so that she can tell the Jedi she tried to stop her while she really just let her get away. I also don’t hate the dreadhead Jedi. Feels like Sol is a Qui-Gon who follows his instinct in the force whereas Dreadhead is an Obi-Wan by the book type to the point that he would arrest a friend. Seeing him learn from Sol is a nice detail, but I suppose his character and Dafnee Keen’s could be rolled into one

[@Redfivee]

As an Ex-HC SW fan I’m right in the middle.But I do think peoples frustration is with SW in general.If this show came out 10 years ago people would be losing their minds.But with the hit&miss of SW overall I think most people are just done but won’t let go.

[@rangersnut]

$170 million dollars for this, seems like money laundering to me. This is the poorest the writing, effects and shots, make up and music has ever been for Star Wars. My kids hate this as well. They much prefer other shows, like stranger thing's, invincible and my hero academia.

[@austinh7539]

I was really hoping I could compare the Jedi in this series to the starks. You could argue they are immoral, you could argue they are not smart, but you can’t argue that you are on their side. They are just like the Jedi in the prequels here. And this is the high republic. Cmon

[@benjaminvega7186]

My problem with the jedi portrayals is the same with every fan film. They play them like a robot. They weren't even like that in the prequels, i get that they're supposed to be stoic, but they're just flat

[@ridethasno]

When Kristian says if you could only choose between The Acolyte and House Of The Dragon, then he drops Dark Matter which is my favorite show so far this year, it’s just so damn good.

[@joerossi6595]

SW fans want soemthing different so they cry, the get something different, they still cry. The show is fine. Let it play out. But 180 million and I get 30 minute epsiodes? That's an insult.

[@brandanshaw5326]

Love the way you guys come at shows. You seem very neutral and honest. I thought the show was ok. Nothing amazing but I’ll keep watching. Don’t understand all the crazy hate but whatever. Keep up the great work!

[@kurtcult1908]

What’s truly sad is bad batch was really solid. Feels like original trilogy stuff. Mandolorian was special but they didn’t keep the quality of story telling in other shows.

[@jackisgreat925]

“Who trained you?” *pans slowly up to Yord watching instead of helping* Hmmm, I fucking wonder…

[@twoboospodcast7147]

I know folks may take this the wrong way, and this is just a thought, I mean no disrespect...but I feel like The Acolyte would have been better served as a High Republic novel (which I would certainly read) rather than a Disney Plus series. To Kristian's point, it is a big gamble to put so much money (170 million ) on a series that is so clearly and intentionally created with one person's vision and ideology. It is then just natural to have a strong opposition to that vision which could turn people off. I know creating a novel and creating a TV series are two different things, but books give a lot more room for vast explorations of ideas and concepts within the established world, and I would presume they cost a lot less to make (I could be wrong). That being said, I plan to see the show through, again, just a thought. I am by no means tying to dismiss the show or anything just curious if anyone shares the same sentiments. May the Force be with you all!

[@davidcampbellfilms8668]

Think this is the hardest I’ve ever disagreed with you off the bat! Up there with my fav SW shows after the first two episodes and I LOOOVED that they killed Carrie Ann Moss off the bat: was such a shock, and instantly established Mae as a real threat

[@NerdsEngage]

Okay heres my guess right or wrong hopefully wrong. The mom is bad Mae seemed more loyal to her so they left her, and took Osha. They had to tell Mae Osha was dead because they knew she would not stop looking, its family, and they told Osha that because it would distract from her becoming a Jedi. When she, with training could sense that Mae was still alive, she left the order. Were now seeing the first time she was able to confirm that after many years of trying.

[@martinkoehler3631]

I was not a fan. I am someone who is just about done with Star Wars. I have felt Sisney has done nothing but ruin th3 franchise. That being said, I thank you two for your opinions and what you have said. It is really sad that so many people cannot have mature conversations about things they disagree with. Keep up the great work.

[@iansmart4158]

Kristian. I love your show, your channel, your content, your guest hosts. I’m a big fan of it all. This show has serious issues with writing, pacing, and characterization. Those are issues with creative NOT the actors. But come I man…”forced casting”. What does that mean? Why is it that when there is a small number of white dudes it’s Star Wars for a niche audience?! Why? You’re telling me if you replace all the actors with white ppl and had the same direction, acting, and writing it’s suddenly Star Wars for everyone? Kristian the problem isn’t the faces. It’s the material they’re given which is completely independent of if they’re white or black or whatever. I sub to you and NOT those other guys because that kind of talk is never your go to. You’re concerned with the quality, not the ppl’s ethnicity. But that comment really bothered me. Who cares if the one white dude is the guy who drinks the poison? The one black man in EMPIRE betrayed his friends and sold out the heroes to the villain for cash. You don’t see me whining about how Lando is bad black representation….

[@writingref]

Look at this show like Affirmative action - a very necessary step toward equality in education In an effort to fill a certain amount of diversity, affirmative action might have been taken in order to fill a quota of rolls. There might not yet be a large enough pool of actors to pull from. They also may have overbalanced in their zeal. That is ALL Christian is saying.

[@writingref]

This is a touchy subject. The anti-woke crowd is so prominent as a division and instigators of social war that its impossible to have a meaningful conversation about diversity because of them. So - do the oppressed and the marginalized sometimes become the oppressor? I would say yes, but it is incorrect when the privileged and ignorant say "reverse racism" Christian is obviously far removed Does one black guy in Empire mean we now make sure we have only one white guy? No. Nor is this show doing that. Its relatively well balanced with diversity and has people of color taking the lead, but there is a danger in trying to overcompensate that makes a universe or world feel designed rather than real An example i often point to is the all lady ghostbusters vs the young adult ghostbusters You could have done a terrific all lady ghostbusters - but it turned Bill murray and every male in that movie into a joke

[@TaoistWay]

@@writingref make good content, no one is complaining about House of Dragon being woke...or Expanse. They have diversity, strong female characters. I feel like only when the show is bad do people complain. Everyone loved the first Wonder Woman but not the second one, that's fair...same people made it..if it is good praise it if it is bad criticize it. It shouldn't matter who made it or who is in it.

[@iansmart4158]

@@writingref this is bull. If what matters is the quality of the work then let’s talk about that. Who gets the job is secondary to how well they do it. For decades Star Wars was 2 trilogies each with a single black character. At no point did I have trouble identifying with Obi-Wan because he looked different than me. The character is what I connected to. I just hate that now that Star Wars finally resembles the diverse amount of actors available to do the job, we have ppl complaining that there isn’t any positive white male representation. “Why are all the women never evil?” “Why is there queer ppl suddenly in Star Wars?” “Why are there so few white guys?” Idk man. I never heard you asking why there aren’t any Asians or so few Indian ppl in the last?! Etc. seems like these are just ppl who refuse to have empathy for those who look differently and it’s sad cuz that’s what I’ve had to do my whole life.

[@Anthonycheesman33]

@@TaoistWaythey did before it came out and was good lol

[@dagreenflamingo105]

I have a feeling Asian dude who made the poison just playing dumb and bigger part, and that Mae and OSHA are switched. Like osha was the one who burned it all down and Mae was either just blamed for it or he put the memories in their minds to convince them

[@jasontucker1760]

INDARA IDEA: Intercut both her and May’s approach to the noodle salloon, showing Indara’s caring yet somewhat playful interactions with the townspeople, contrasted against May’s short and cold encounters. Continue the intercut w/ both characters ordering and eating an entire meal on opposite ends of the salloon, highlighting that Indara is a regular who is loved by EVERYONE in the establishment for being a unofficial bouncer, and May is a mysterious newcomer. As a drunk, hulking alien patron gets rowdy, May watches as Indara walks over and successfully talks him down without any force usage, causing May to interrupt with her fight challenge. May and Indara begin the first phase of fight with the massive patron being used by and against both.

[@wkadalie]

All her criticisms could be thrown away, if Leslye Headland just made her own IP. Space Ninjas or something. Rebel moon didn't face any backlash.... even though it was basically like Star wars.

[@zaneplatt3533]

Huh? Rebel Moon was eviscerated 😂

[@wkadalie]

@@zaneplatt3533 But not because it was like Star wars... Rebel moon got backlash for being bad.

[@Highkingfly]

Completely agree, after watching the first two episodes it feels as if they’re aiming for the quality and writing of Andor/Ashoka but it feels a level below that.

[@affiqothman]

I think that when you said the writing is better than obi wan and ahsoka, this is the rare times where i respectfully disagree. Some of the dialogues are so bad and cringe I literally get angry and yell out loud in frustration. The progression of the story isn't imteresting at all. I dont care about any of the character except master sol. Thats maybe because im a huge fan of Lee Jung Jae. You're right, Andor really spoils my viewing experience and made other star wars series looks worse than it should

[@Zsmot858]

I really liked the first 2 episodes - had some issues with the pacing and abrupt endings, but I think everything else was well done and I’m definitely invested going forward. I think anything else is kind of a nitpick until we know more about the story. Only 2 episodes in…