The Acolyte Episode 7 - WORST EPISODE YET! - Angry Review

[@Tomberculosis-q1i]

I have spent more time watching Star Wars videos on youtube than actually watching Star Wars at this point. PS EU is better than the movies

[@edgarjacksby1402]

Hope you’re watching the trustworthy ones and not the “anti-wOkE” ones. edit: i’m not saying anybody who hates the show is “anti-wOkE”, i never said that

[@thexmacx812]

Brent this u 😂😂😂😂😂

[@danieljoyce4015]

Same

[@dragondrakage2402]

​@edgarjacksby1402 what's wrong with the anti woke?

[@daze4135]

​@@edgarjacksby1402 no shade, no hate at all. Which yter/s are anti-woke?

[@danieljames1510]

Watching a 30 minutes Episode: No!! Watching 98 Minutes of Joe ranting about said 30 Minutes: Now that's what I call Entertainment

[@SimonBannow]

[@CHIEF_420]

💻

[@FlyingDutchmanEnt]

23 min episode and 7 mins of credits lol

[@Leishtek]

Felt the same thing after watching Episode VIII in theaters and then seeing his review. Never watched anything SW since.

[@kallemetsahalme5701]

yet ironically now i completely understand why disney (and others) copyright claim these. its not a (written) review that glosses over the thing and says what it thinks but its a very nitpicky almost second by second study of what happens in the episodes. even if they praised the show i dont think i would have any interest in watching it

[@Pireslvhc]

What has Disney done since they bought Star Wars? - Killed off the original cast -Brought back the emperor "somehow" -Trivialized Anakin's creation -Made the jedi morally ambiguous -Showed zero respect for the IP's legacy or it's fans by constantly shitting on both

[@BrokeLikeMcHammer]

Rogue One was amazing

[@Toneloke-3000]

​@@BrokeLikeMcHammerand even a blind squirrel finds a nut now and then

[@Daniel-Star]

@@BrokeLikeMcHammer you can like it but Rogue One was not a good movie or a good Star Wars movie

[@BrokeLikeMcHammer]

@@Daniel-Star arguably one of the best star wars films ever made

[@Dimez757]

@@BrokeLikeMcHammerwow one good product out of the many they’ve created, yay!!

[@ammercenary]

The Power of One Million, The Power of 2 Million, the Power of 180 Million money LAUNDERING

[@cursedhawkins1305]

I actually saw another channel going over that scene, and no joke, they describe what they were doing was "impregnating themselves with the force"

[@JIMvc2]

😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

[@predat11]

That's many millions.

[@ammercenary]

@@predat11Many Many Many Millions

[@gametime2473]

Disney just shuffles money between their studios to rip off the actors (if they get a percentage) and pay less in taxes. They do almost all of their productions entirely in house so they are basically paying themselves and can create any budget they want.

[@VastoFlo13]

Even the witches died from the cringe from their own show 😂

[@gameragodzilla]

Turns out the “power of maaaannnnny” can’t stand up to Jedi Trinity.

[@LizardSpork]

​​@@gameragodzillaI guess you could say they were just a bunch of Neo.. phytes

[@3IRDDY]

@@gameragodzilla But then JEDI Trinity dies to a tiny spikes lmfao. IT WASN"T even a sword through her lmfao

[@40KWill]

Now I understand

[@gameragodzilla]

@@3IRDDYThat butter knife is the most powerful weapon in the galaxy. Even the Death Star has nothing on it.

[@zemrpereira]

90% of the star wars team should be working at a fast food joint.

[@napowolf]

They would likely be shit at that job pushing vegan options on customers and arguing with them so they can be "educated."

[@lareolanKFP]

90%? More like 150% of them. 🤣 DEI truly does stand for Didn't Earn It, because these people are completely incompetent all the way from writing ro lighting, camera work, direction, sfx, it's all fucking garbage that would be acceptable for a student film, not a $180 million dollar production!

[@mojo_joju]

That’s insulting to the hard-working fast food workers who could probably write a better script than this show

[@bward82]

I wouldn't trust them with my fries

[@ant_the_rant]

100% of them should, because the minority with actual sense remained silent, to have the LGBT123ABC3PO mafia dump on the franchise.

[@showlett33]

So trinity is so powerful she could kill four dozen witches at a distance with the force but couldn't handle a teenager in a bar fight... Make it make sense

[@hardy83]

I've seen some argue that they may not have been dead but unconscious, and that Sol is such a bastard he didn't bother to check them cause he was rushing to the kids. ... Which if true is okay. The problem is the show doesn't convey that, if true, so it comes off stupid af.

[@garygood6804]

​@hardy83 that doesn't even matter. It is 4 dozen force sensitive people vs. 1

[@thedarkemissary]

Because Maye is stronger than the 4 dozen witches. Haven't you been paying attention?

[@GilesMcRiker]

​@@hardy83okay then why didn't she render May unconscious to defeat her?

[@zuriyel5368]

@@thedarkemissary She didn't prove that at all in her fight against Indara. Haven't you been paying attention?

[@bigyoshi5170]

“I was going to let Osha go.” *THEN SAY THAT BEFORE GOING SMOKE DEMON MODE!*

[@IKIGAIofficial]

Manipulative as hell script. No wonder it was written by a - Lol jk.

[@Jayen-17]

I mean, it’s such a normal reaction to someone turning into a smoke monster.. and that’s not even the only shit thing they had Sol do in this ep 😢

[@gamedude412]

Sol says " That Mae you terrible mother Dont you remember her gaint off center tattoo"

[@zachrohler1047]

Remind anyone else of "hands up dont shoot"

[@wellthen.......9384]

To say this show sucked.......... would put a shame to every porn star that has ever pursed their lips in the complete totality of the history of the adult entertainment industry that's just my opinion

[@mattthrower6381]

Torbin makes no sense as a character. We were told he put himself into a 10 year exile, and killed himself for what happened on that planet. Yet, he did nothing wrong, he just wanted to go home, and for that he got mind graped, and had to defend himself against enemy archers, and a mind controlled jedi wookie. What happened that was shown to us, can even remotely reconcile to the two things. Then if you want to go further... him killing himself, takes place 16 years after what happened. He was in self exile for 10 years.... so for 6 years he was fine, not just fine, he was okay enough to not only complete his training, but then train to become a Jedi Master.... in 6 years... then suddenly started feeling guilty random;y to not talk to anyone for 10 years. What is this shows writing.

[@RaymondSanders-f8c]

Garbage Writing 😶😶😑😐

[@mikoto7693]

He made the cardinal sin of being straight and white.

[@dontbeorbeevil]

Best explanation I have is that they made it the other way around. They imagined a powerful jedi floating in the air, his face is scared, his eyes closed. The powaful leedah black ninja strong woman comes and uses her mental powers to defeat this seasoned evil white jedi man. Then someone might have asked Leslie, but what did he do? Ehh, he ... Bad man bad... Guilt, PTSD from mmm... Long ago. They did not have the story but a sketch of Torbin floating in the air. And like every terrible unskilled content makers, they could not work it out. They did not do it right from the beginning, and they did not fix it later. Unskilled, untalented, unprofessional team led by Harvey's assistant. The end.

[@admech590]

PTSD? Mental anguish?

[@PoopaChallupa]

Do we know if Jediabetus survived?

[@megatoke]

Stop giving disney the "benifit of the doubt." They haven't earned it.

[@agreb25]

I'd even argue they deserve like anti-benefit of the doubt. After the sequel trilogy, I lost all faith in Disney Star Wars

[@preddes6522]

No point telling these clowns that

[@TheForeignGamer]

Disney and all other megacorps deserve to go under, to be quite frank.

[@vert2552]

exactly, this is not their first show to give any hopes like 'they might be still going with this somewhere'

[@AerynWalk]

Problem is AJ is a huge Casual and extremely influenced by his Bias! he cant properly review Movies and Series. His Game reviews are mostly very good and on point but he should stop reviewing movies. i mean he gave shit like Black Widow 8/10...

[@cowetascore8476]

Episode 8: Yoda shows up, says, "the f**k going on, what is?," kills everybody and walks away.

[@thomaswood1158]

Survived order 66 for this, I did?

[@bigdreams5554]

Lol, I would tune in to watch that episode

[@asphilosophyusa]

@cowetascore8476 no joke, that ending would actually redeem the series and make it all worth it

[@tzera_rhuon]

More likely Vader shows up and force-chokes Sol to death

And forgets about it since he has dementia.

[@mixwatcher265]

I think an overinflated ego is what led to having this show made the way it is. The show runners wanted to leave their mark on this established franchise and they probably wanted to pull in all their friends to help. The main problem is that none of them have any talent or care to handle a franchise like Star Wars, and because they’re so full of themselves, they all believe that what they’re making is so great, that everyone who hates the show must be a troll or a liar.

[@brotbrotsen1100]

And it was completely bound to fail. Headlands last project was so bad that even critics ripped it apart. The movie was women centered for women, sounds familiar? And critics had the same complaints SW fans have now. Boring and incompetent characters, hard to follow, no clue what it's trying to say etc. Very strange that the critics defend it now that Disney is involved

[@RaymondSanders-f8c]

Bingo.

[@mikoto7693]

@@brotbrotsen1100I’m a woman and I don’t claim them. They are an embarrassment to women everywhere.

[@4589dude]

Just realized that Space Balls feels more like Star Wars than actual Star Wars these days

[@cowetascore8476]

I hope Darth Helmet shows up in Episode 8 and goes, "FOUND ANYTHING YET?" and the one trooper goes, "WE AIN'T FOUND SH*T"

[@justinnyugen7015]

"I'm surrounded by Assholes!"

[@ralphengland8559]

I just rewatched Space Balls... you're right.

[@graphicsgod]

Hardware Wars feels more like Star Wars!!

[@destedone5634]

cuz space balls believed in the shorts

[@steamworkfox4564]

The Jedi are supposed to be Monks, Their Training is to basically give up earthly desires. HOW THE ACTUAL FUCK DOES A MONK GET HOMESICK IN 7 WEEKS!? He is LITERALLY Trained to not want to go home!

[@altaafsheik5725]

These are modern Jedi 😆

[@MancoDanko]

Especially when we’re told by Sol that his decision (doesn’t make sense) to join the order was at age 4.

[@BottinLoris]

Also he was picking flowers on Planet Camping, Imagine WAY younger padawans who went to war

[@TheGraemi]

The explanation of the last bastions of Acolyte fans mean. That it was because of the possession by Aniseya before created a trauma.

[@vlastelinprislic286]

He is a white dude, so the scriptwriters want to make him a b

[@paranormalgamesstudios]

Fun fact: They werent ever going to make an Obi Wan movie or show, Ewen McGregor actually asked Disney to do it and they agreed and gave him a very low budget for it. Thats how out of touch with reality Lucas Film and Disney are.

[@Spanluver]

Ewan mcgregor got mind screwed by trump and became utterly deranged

[@amharbinger]

Transforms into a smoke monster, and gets stabbed. Why did you attack me?

[@The_Penguin_8964]

Sorry ma'am, I don't even know I CAN stab on a smoke-form monster🙈😂

[@conordyer2307]

Don't reach for the gun.......'reaches for a gun' Why did you shoot me?

[@phantasticphizzle]

They try to make it seem that the Jedi are the bad guys but the witch’s are actually still the bad guys lmao 😂

[@BlazingOwnager]

@@conordyer2307 There are people who sue PDs for that exact situation. One happening in Baltimore right now because the guy reached 6 times for a cut down AR

[@aikoboi5969]

Apparently she only cast gaseous form, lost the dice roll even with advantage though

[@jordangerardpotier]

Episode 3: I’m gonna be the worst one. Episode 7: hold my beer.

[@JM17848]

Don’t they use blue milk there?? 🤣🤣

[@louiseguglielmetti7477]

Love it!🤣

[@budgiecat9039]

Same director for both

[@triggerfairy4070]

@@jordangerardpotier its the same episode though

[@birthbysleep24]

Episode 8: :)

[@Cyberpsychos_Dirge]

Surprised it took Joe this long to realize Star Wars is dying and quickly. He finally feels what the rest of us have felt for years.

[@ДжонДжоновичЛоусон]

its been dying since force awakens. Even rogue one / mandalorion is just crappy fan fiction. clone wars show was the last piece of real star wars media. everything else is just playing with corpses

[@aliendead7580]

Denial is a step toward acceptance

[@somethingboss]

I feel bad for Squid game guy. He probably thought this was going to be his peak career move. Little did he know it would be his lowest point.

[@mikerosoft1009]

I couldn't tell if he was saying vergence or virgins, like couldn't they get him to dub a few of the lines?

[@healsallwounds]

I think he was a big star in South Korea, so I’m sure he’ll do OK.

[@Jix-kd8iv]

Bros good actor it's a shame he's in this mess

[@TheFatalcrest]

@@healsallwounds XD SK ain't going nowhere, and he's acting his butt off in this, its a shame this is his script

[@somethingboss]

@@healsallwounds Of course. Everyone knows he's going to be fine. Squid Games 2 alone will be huge.

[@ggom603]

Episode 3: Terrible, but at least we held out hope for a different perspective. Episode 7: Same episode. Terrible. Confirms perspective was ludicrous. This is the worst of the series now.

[@gamedude412]

zack snyder presents Rebel Star wars moons

[@ricardohoang8452]

Wait until tomatoes will keep their own shitty “positive critics” for years like captain marvel and previous star wars bullocks

[@Foxfire_forty-nine]

@ricardohoang8452 and expect the same youtube critics to do the total opposite. You're the product, you're the gullible. Howard Beale says the truth

[@MarkLittle-rq2bq]

So, despite being the worst Jedi ever to Jedi...they still manage to save a girl's life while taking out a coven of Dark Force using witches despite the High Council's unwillingness to act. I guess the message of the story is that you can have complete faith in the Jedi because even their worst will still end up doing the right thing. It's nice to know the good guys are actually still the good guys!

[@admech590]

Who are we supposed to like in this show?

[@RaymondSanders-f8c]

Allegedly 😅😅

[@lightsydedean]

In all honesty, this episode is a 0/10. On the angry Joe scale, a 0 is a non functional product, I genuinely believe from a writing perspective that this episode was non functional. From scene to scene, characters act vastly different and are almost completely unrecognisable. There’s genuinely non sensical stuff like flammable rocks, smoke teleportation (that you are still able to be killed while doing even though you are not physically solid). And there’s a complete disregard for the lore that has come before this show. I’m someone that doesn’t even care too much about intricate lore, but at the absolute least, you have to ensure that you don’t break the main movie lore (which they have butchered). A few cool lightsaber fights doesn’t take away from the fact that this story makes no sense and is a non functional narrative.

[@judgedread9724]

Agreed. This show as a whole is just non functional.

[@The_Penguin_8964]

@@lightsydedean Agree, if Star Trek gets a 0 because of non-funtional, this should get it also🤦🏻‍♂️

[@GamingProspector84]

Probably why they put it as 7. Majority are watching for their own content and the rest are a handful of devotees; if they would’ve put 7 as 4 everyone would’ve dropped the show weeks ago.

[@tdarassp]

Nope. Dramatic hyperbole does not lead to a constructive rating system. The episode functions perfectly fine from beginning to end; it's just bad. 0/10 is just as useless as blind 10/10

[@lightsydedean]

@@tdarassp I respect your opinion, but I personally didnt find this episode perfectly functional. Theres numerous things you have to take into account beyond functionality being defined as ‘I hit play, an episode plays’. I liken this episode to a car without wheels. Does it technically work, yes it turns on, the air conditioning works, it might even move forward a little bit, but does it actually do what a car should do, no. This episode was the same. It has sound, it has onscreen characters, it has dialogue, it has visuals, but it has fundamentally broken writing (the metaphorical wheels of a plot). Not only that, but the actual episode, in the context of the series, contributes nothing. It reveals nothing that Mae doesn’t already know. It literally does not serve any function within the greater plot either. If you want to go even deeper, you can bring in budgetary factors as well. At over $20 million an episode, what is displayed in this episode is, at its core, not fit to be published.

[@Ivbo]

Osha - *”What happened to my family?”* Sol - *”I felt a connection to you little one, so I killed your whole family, it’s the Jedi way.”* Osha - 👁️👄👁️

[@The_Penguin_8964]

Oh btw most of them die because of Bluetooth disconnection, just saying👋🏻😂

[@koyapol]

kinda have a creepy pdf tone in to it 😬

[@PhthaloGreenskin]

Master sol wanted a cupcake.​@@koyapol

[@xiii0722]

​@@koyapolyeah, especially since they exchanged like 3 sentences so far... Like

[@dylanberry7822]

It's the OSHA was to love whomever kills everyone she loves. So that tracks.

[@S1nwar]

Ewan McGregor walks into the producers office: Look, i just need as much ressources as Headland gets and i can fix this for you - Kennedy: SHEEER FCKING HUBRIS

[@Ben-oo9cp]

“How does it feel to have lived long enough to see all of your favourite franchises go down in flames?” - Rich Evans (RLM)

[@juanfranciscovillarroelthu6876]

"It feels Great"

[@MancoDanko]

Ironic considering they think this show is ok. They don’t want to see this being worse than the prequels… That being said their Pilinkett reviews are dishonest arguments of a series that shouldn’t only seen as a space fantasy but ok…

[@V4Now]

​@@MancoDankoI thought they said it was "mediocre" and not the worst the series was capable of

[@eduardopena5893]

It is quite easy. I have never seen any of the most current Star Wars movies. I started to watch the prequels and instantly lost interest. Didn't watch anything after those. Didn't watch any of the spin-off series. So in my head, none of this crap exists.

[@MancoDanko]

@@V4Now if you’re referring to the acolyte then yes, then they also claim the Obi-Wan show was better at depicting the Jedi than the prequels…

[@Hollyclown]

They thought they COOKED, adding that end credit song. 😂

[@denzelrobert]

@@Hollyclown Which honestly caught me off guard 🤣😂

[@Delos1138]

Because Star Wars is Riverdale now

[@Quickscript]

they thought but sadly fell flat on their face

[@triggerfairy4070]

@@Hollyclown they were cooking something

[@michaelwilliams176]

I actually liked it haha

[@maxbardus3019]

"As soon as I'm done it doesn't exist" - OJ "Right... That's what I was about to say" - AJ "Okay. Good." - OJ Loved this exchange 😆

[@kokocaptainqc]

both were thinking ''ok nice im not alone on that boat''

[@mikoto7693]

Wise. I did that with the whole new trilogy and everything after. It doesn’t exist to me.

[@AlexisLopez-pb8ms]

People who defend this show are the same people who liked Madame Web.😮😮😮

[@nelypso]

Brrr u had to remind me of the existence of madame web! 😬

[@TheCollapse410]

But madame web is amazing lol. Surprised Joe didn't cope for it.

[@supersaiyannigga5980]

@@TheCollapse410clown

[@MrJackfriday]

Probably the same ones who liked She hulks too

[@CrimsonFIame]

I think I'm mentally able to detach myself from Star Wars at this point. I no longer feel any excitement for anything related to this franchise. I don't think The Acolyte is worse than the Sequel trilogy because I still have the memories of being in the theater and walking out of The Last Jedi immensely disappointed with how the Legacy characters were being treated but I'm done because it's not going up it's just sinking further into the abyss. I wouldn't be surprised if Andor the last good current Star Wars Project left has Kathleen Kennedy's stench after seeing how well received it was.

[@bwill123]

Don't stop there, detach from Hollywood, escape the matrix!

[@budgiecat9039]

This isn't Star Wars. It's just fan fiction that Disney paid 4 billion in 2012 to license Even the credits literally say "based on Star Wars by George Lucas" It's based on. It isn't actually it.

[@didimean]

You already know her greasy hands are going to be all over season 2 now that she knows it's her last chance of spreading "the message" to a (potentially) wide audience

[@seeeworld]

It's over. At this point we need a COMPLETELY new Fandom to jump to. Real star wars fans don't want this trash. Time to move onto a new IP no cap

[@HCUhardcoreUnited]

I checked out nearly a decade ago. I was buying the books in the beginning, but those weren't good either. Found other sci fi universes to love.

[@N0R3AS0Nz]

So a jedi so powerful she can kill 50 witches with the force but lost in fight to to mai....bruh

[@redram6080]

By a tiny knife throw of all things

[@rosssoyka860]

It’s symbolic of her change as a person. She chooses to save others lives after slaughtered a whole fucking complete ass coven that was using the power of many. Right then, right there. By mistake. After 5 rewatches I really understand and appreciate the acolyte as a show

[@mrman-yj3bn]

Crazy how older evil people in this show keep using their power to seduce younger people. Would of never guessed who wrote it...

[@eduardopena5893]

Harvey Weinstein and Jeffrey Epstein?

[@jonbaxter2254]

Stop noticing patterns!

[@strugglesnuggledslime7040]

"Write what you know" - Leslye Headland

[@yami122]

I mean that's pretty common in fiction in general people with power are going to be older individuals and protagonists tend to be younger individuals so any story of a hero be seduced by evil individual it's going to be an older being trying to seduce a younger being into joint them it's not really specifically associated with Star Wars

[@mrman-yj3bn]

Not Harvey, but his personal assistant :)

[@worldscoolestperson7672]

Wait, so, why did Torbin kill himself? The Jedi literally didn’t do anything???

[@zachrohler1047]

Unironically white guilt.

[@healsallwounds]

I guess because their actions indirectly led to the deaths of the convent. Though really, the witches died because of their own stupidity.

[@eXpriest]

Man hadn't taken a dump for ten years, woulda drank anything you handed him.

[@jessicamacgown8251]

It depends on who you ask.

[@LizardSpork]

He got the nasty scars and his secret gf back on Coruscant dumped him. That's why he was so homesick see. It all makes sense. 😂

[@xposhboyx]

The line is so baffling: The Jedi have the right to test the children, with your permission, of course. That line is self-contradictory on its face. If they have the right, they don't need permission, if they need permission, they don't have the right.

[@lordcommanderdire5113]

Fifteen year gap between the flashbacks and the main story. Torbin was in a coma for ten years. That means that Torbin went from padawan to master in less than five years, despite him being depicted as a teen / young afult. Not even Anakin managed that. How the fuck did this homesick sad boy manage to do that? What an absolute load of shit

[@budgiecat9039]

Also how come he's the only one who knows how to do a Force field? Not even his master Indara can do that. Nor Sol nor Anakin nor Yoda nor Obi Wan. Or Luke Pretty useful ability don't you think? 😂

[@david7522]

So if all masters get a seat on the council... Does that mean that for ten years they were holo projecting an image of floating Torbin into meetings just to see if he had something to add?

[@Malvisk]

The writers really believe in the 5000 hours to mastery

[@ronuss]

lets not even talk about how he went into a coma for 10 years because he wanted to go home and felt guilty lol. wtf?

[@Daniel-Star]

@@david7522 Not all masters are on the council but everyone on the council is a master. There are not only 12 masters at a time.

[@TheSpongyMallard]

Why did Sol care so much about telling Mae what actually happened in the past, when Mae already knew everything since she was right there… This show has the most inconsistent writing and continuity that it makes the X-Men movies make sense.

[@budgiecat9039]

Leslye is trying to explain directly to the audience with an unreliable narrator instead of the characters acting organically

[@TheSpongyMallard]

@@budgiecat9039 I'm not sure if this is a defense or not, but if the characters themselves contradict themselves very often, it's terrible writing. The unreliable narrator HAS to do done if there is an actual narrator or if the story is being told by a character. This is not either, it's characters talking to each other and then flip flop constantly.

[@budgiecat9039]

@@TheSpongyMallard what I mean by unreliable narrator isn't literal like an actual narrator, but how the show is presented with gaps and perspectives purposely to throw us off, then comes back and shows us other perspectives so we go ahhh so that's the whole story. (As in this episode compared to episode 3). Except they failed horribly at doing this here.

[@TheSpongyMallard]

@@budgiecat9039 I know what you meant, but I don’t think it works when characters are just talking to each other. I actually think the writers are just bad. I don’t think they’re trying to use any writing techniques at all. Like, toddlers could write a more consistent story.

[@ChopSueyyy]

Its the ole "and then x happened" school of story telling. Connections? Nah. Worldbuilding? Nope. Logical character motivations/arcs/emotions? Think again.

[@seafodder6129]

This episode is the equivalent of the Titanic circling around and crashing into the iceberg again.

[@peposo7]

Just to make it even on the other side of the fuselage.

[@mikoto7693]

🤣🤣🤣 Thanks for making me laugh.

[@montae4803]

The "power of many" allowed them to posses one jedi and make him fight badly, then die

[@rosssoyka860]

I mean, we don’t know how strong a Wookiee’s mind is, perhaps they should of use 48 WITCHES TO ATTEMPT A FAMILIAR HUMAN MIND AGAIN AFTER THEYD ALREADY SUCCEEDED ESPECIALLY AFTER WE SEE HIS LIGHTSABER SKILLS IN THE GODDAMN CONFLICT!! Sorry.

[@rosssoyka860]

You’re also in a guys mind who hits master in no time like lebron but tell no one in your coven

[@MedalionDS9]

It took one Witch to enter the mind of a weak padawan... yet took nearly the entire coven to possess a Wookie? Make it make sense people

[@AmazingKevinWClark]

After all the weird sex stuff in this show, Im more suspicious that Headland may not be so innocent when it came to Weinstein.

[@gabrielchin4161]

People actually thought she was innocent? I'm pretty sure everyone was suspicious of her day one. Especially since she was able to get away scot free. Now she's making a 180mil Disney Star wars show.

[@didimean]

She *absolutely* knew what was happening. Not a chance in hell she didn't.

[@novakrabby]

Everyone around Weinstein knew, just didnt talk about it

[@AvieRaptor]

Of course she wasnt people just fall upwards in Hollywood

[@BritBox777]

She was literally his PA. It was her job to know and keep it hidden.

[@revhentie]

Sol: we are here for virgins Audience: you meant vergence right? Sol: you heard me the first time

[@Malforian]

bruh!

[@LaterHarmony]

YOOOO CHILLL💀 I hate how sol gave me those exact same vibes

[@kevinbahr5954]

Torbin’s motivation being that he’s bored and wants to go home was quite possibly the dumbest character motivation I’ve ever seen. You could grab any random person off the street and chances are good they could write a better star wars story than this.

[@chronoshin8597]

Disney isn't looking for a writer. Disney only wants to put certain scenes and dialogues into the movie. So Disney only hires people to get that done through meetings and brainstorming process.

[@spacejunk2186]

First thought: have him have a romantic interest back on coruscant that he fears he will lose. Some kind of forbidden love. Bam. Better character motivation to get home. Of course Ms Weinstein could not come up with this since she does not know what love is to begin with.

[@lukeluke333lukeluke]

*Everyone facepalms!* so stupid. It makes no sense just like the whole show...

[@JustinVillemure]

So the only way to form opinions is self involvement? So you can’t know if k3lling someone is bad or not unless you do it? Watching clips of the show and seeing critics address flaws not enough for your mind to piece it together and form an opinion of your own? Poorthingyouare

[@goldfishprime]

The entire 'incident' seems irrelevant at this point. Mae seemed like she was going to be a psychopath anyway, after she nearly burned her sister alive because her one mom told her to give in to her rage.

[@animetrashamvs]

"We cannot choose to when the Force calls us. Only whether or not to answer. The choice is yours."-Jedi Master Kratu talking to Aau's father about becoming a Jedi. They aren't supposed to be like this.

[@Caninemuffin766]

Congrats on finally getting it uploaded! Been watching this train wreck through you guys so they don’t get hate watch numbers 😂😂

[@ge2719]

that bridge scene really was so stupid. not just because sol should have force grabbed the girls, but because the bridges fall out from under them and they still just stand there staring at each other, reaching out to each other when they're like 5 meters apart. and sol doesn't shout for them to run or anything. the direction and writing in this show is so terrible.

[@invincible1914]

Where they really shouting “what did you do!” back and forth at each other while Sol was straining with everything he had?

[@ge2719]

@@invincible1914 yep. They seemed to have tried to film it in a way where the girls couldn't necessarily see sol was the one holding up the platforms, but still the characters are written as incredibly stupid to keep standing on a platform that just fell, over a massive pit. And the terrible acting of them just deadpan shouting "what did you do" while they're in mortal danger just makes it even more awful. You'd think most kids would be too scared to even walk out over that pit nevermind standing there with the whole bridge being blown up.

[@weltallelite]

Joe is usually the one who plays devil’s advocate and looks for the good in a show. I love when he’s the one who is the hardass. 😂

[@zsean6788]

You have no idea how many times I refreshed saying "come on boys I am ready for the rant" the last few days

[@keachweder6217]

Same lol I saw that this episode was terrible so I was excited for this.

[@AndreNitroX]

Likewise, I was like what is taking so long but now I feel bad because as usual it was the KZbin overloads fault not my boys.

[@ethans2647]

Alex taking the piss on Superman stopping a train while AJ is glaring at him was the best part of this haha

[@40KWill]

True. If only he referenced Hancock.

[@peposo7]

I liked that Alex called him SuperAlien. Because that's what he is. Not a meta-human.

[@jeffmcarthur5617]

Just a reminder that the people who wrote this were paid - AT MINIMUM - $10,500 per week. Really earned those paychecks, huh.

[@dontbeorbeevil]

I do not mean to defend them, but the vast majority of Hwood writers except for select few do not get a lot of jobs. I heard it from themselves. They get a few good jobs, but those do not come every month except for DEI lgbt privileged caste. 10k is a good salary. But they have to stretch it over many months.

[@antoniosicoli8944]

OJ poofing like that got me weak 😂💀

[@AdamWhiteside]

OJ special moves, Pocket Sand and Smoke Bomb.

[@davidgipe997]

​@@AdamWhiteside :D

[@AndreNitroX]

Joes effects were better than the 180 million dollar show

[@SeeYouRyu2032]

If people can pretend that this series is good, then I'll be over here in my little world where George never sold off Star Wars and the last movies and shows were the Revenge of the Sith and the Clone Wars. Since we're living in fantasy land its all fair

[@jorgeyportly]

I'm with you. Just like I pretend the last few seasons of GOT never happened.

[@Edax_Royeaux]

We can all pretend KOTOR is still canon together.

[@MultiKbarry]

@@Edax_Royeaux Don’t. They will be coming for that next. All they will bring is more ruin.

[@jrrizzy5579]

The bridge scene would have made more sense if he started lifting them up to bring them to him, rubble hits his head and the girls land back on the bridge, in a clearly concussed state Sol tries again but as they come closer his injury makes him unable to focus enough for both of them so he has to choose.

[@BruvahSulaiman]

They actually paid ppl to write that scene, and all of us can write it better.

[@mikoto7693]

It’s terrible if some random person on the internet can write it better.

[@justinjohnston8923]

or show that the force is his weak point? I mean I assume he is if he can't do that, couldn't mind read the evil twin, uses more martial arts than most jedis shown, no resistance to the choke- but at the same time he's got nimble force movement like wtf???

[@juggaloxmuzicxify]

"the power of one too many" 😂😂😂

[@Lobsterwithinternet]

This would have never happened if this was ‘The Power of Manny’.

[@johnniewalker3134]

lines of coke...

[@bigdreams5554]

I watch an average of 5 reviews for each Acolyte episode, haven't seen a single second of the actual show. Its so funny to hear YTers react to this pile of crap

[@Senneru13]

Same. So in a way we get a lot out of this show

[@ChopSueyyy]

Way more entertaining than watching something that is the equivalent of an unseasoned, well done $1 steak

[@emceeunderdogrising]

Gave up after the 2nd episode. Star Wars was always my favorite. It's gone forever.

[@hstafford078]

They suffer so we don't have to. They are the real heros.

[@spaghettimac63]

You should watch the show and have your own opinion of it. You may watch it and think it’s crap, but at least you came to that conclusion yourself.

[@preddes6522]

You realize they'll get a season 2 once you understand MAKING MONEY ISNT THE GOAL

[@tehbeernerd]

Streaming services are a terrible business model but Disney and the rest of them keep chasing them because of the absolute control they get over everything they make that goes on it

[@kokocaptainqc]

do you also feel like everyone is making a huge effort to ignore that fact? or to not hear when someone says it?

[@zerg6001]

@@kokocaptainqc yes, I don’t understand what we have to do to convince these people it’s about a message not money

[@geraldstevenson9781]

Exactly. The message trumps the money.

[@haplo_]

Alex: "She had somewhere to be. She had to go kill Renly Baratheon." 💀

[@johnniewalker3134]

😁🤣🤣🤣

[@sadis72]

Leslie is just as guilty as Harvey, WHO DO YOU THINK SET EVERY THING UP FOR HIM?!?!?!

[@FeNite8]

She has dirt on a lot of people. Hence the $180mil payoff she got for this show.

[@lareolanKFP]

Exactly! Leslie belongs behind bars as a co-conspirator and active participant in the cover up on a massive scale! The ONLY reason she's not behind bars is because she's got tits and she's gay, and the DA decided it wasn't worth the political backlash during the height of the MeToo movement. Everyone knows she's guilty!

[@MedalionDS9]

"write from what you know"

[@zuriyel5368]

Exactly. She was Weinstein's acolyte.

[@Vilblue]

That’s kinda a wild accusation

[@casper5379]

19:48 😂 angry Joe's face when Alex starts hating on Superman 👀

[@voidastralbirth]

Oh yeah, this one was BAD bad.

[@notBrocker]

BAD bad is an understatement

[@ADHD_God5489]

Worse than BAD bad, it's an abomination that didn’t deserve to exist.

[@FactoryDan]

Not even Grace Randolph was able to lie about this one. She finally admitted it was bad, lolol

[@zhin8294]

Heres a suggestion: maybe stop watching it then?

[@FactoryDan]

@@zhin8294 tell that to the Joes then, lolol

[@Macintosh1001]

That one Jedi got influenced because...he was homesick...?

[@commanderjor4043]

I'm not a fan of the acolyte but I'm assuming that it meant more than just being home, the fact he even has that kind of attachment shows he's faltering

[@denzelrobert]

To an extent he kills himself 😅

[@gamedude412]

Homesick for a planet a 30min ship ride away, The show made time and distance meaningless. He could have travel to temple gotten his replacement and been back before the team had dinner

[@Username18981]

No, he wanted the hell out of the show.

[@LizardSpork]

A Padawan who's home sick a week out on an expedition? Either Jedi training ain't what it used to be or he's got a secret gf back home. 😂

[@SpaceJockey805]

Headland absolutely has dirt on some Disney execs, I guarantee it. How else would she get the keys to the most profitable franchise in history, while being insanely under qualified??

[@ithinkihadeight]

They sent a kid who grew up on an Ecumenopolis on a camping trip and he couldn't handle the amount of touching grass.

[@budgiecat9039]

on intercom talking to his friends on Coruscant: "So you've been gone for almost 2 months. What are you doing over there?" "Touching grass" "Lmao what a total loser! 😂 You must feel so embarrassed! 😂" "Fuck. I wanna go home 😢"

[@ggom603]

They’ve done it. They somehow managed to make something worse and more disrespectful than The Book of Boba Fett.

[@Lobsterwithinternet]

But is it as bad a Kenobi?

[@DavidWMiller]

@@Lobsterwithinternet Kenobi is not as bad as Boba.

[@Lobsterwithinternet]

@@DavidWMiller 😒

[@curzon9619]

@@DavidWMiller You're right. It's worse. Kenobi destroyed a character that was even more beloved than Boba, and makes him responsible for the death of billions on Alderaan.

[@DavidWMiller]

@@curzon9619 In what way? By not killing Vader? He already didn't do that. And how? Blowing up Alderaan was Tarkin.

[@JACKWEASEL]

When Joe reviewed episode 3 I was laughing, I’m just sad that this has happened to Star Wars. All the tales I grew up with have been ruined by bad writing and woke bs. Thanks for the review.

[@dealirious3403]

Sol: I feel a connection to Osha! Also Sol: Osha is meant to be my padawan! Mae: Mommy! Fire! Help! Sol: Osha!!! ....🤨 Also Sol: *needs comic relief gopher to tell him Mae isn't Osha*

[@curian1286]

Thought the same thing lol

[@wildzach]

I legitimately think it was an editing mistake

[@davillain9974]

When Alex started talking shit on Supes, I saw the look on Joe's face was just priceless🤣😂

[@schizzo8959]

Even I got pissed after a while, he knows how to push buttons and give AJ shit for being forced to watch this trash.

[@ethans2647]

Can imagine that banter happening off-screen too, lol

[@xiii0722]

Haha true but yeah was a good comparison

[@lebowski3767]

Why did they make Torbin look so damn old? It was only 16 years later. Dude was in his 30s.

[@4GVN_TraevonChandler93]

"OH SHI- SHE IS TURNING INTO A MONSTER. LETS NOT STAB HER. SHE MIGHT GIVE THE DISINTEGRATING KID BACK." -Some jedi in a flammable mine full of witches

[@JPT2010]

The whole Sol obsessing, spying on the children, sneaking around the Forrest, following them home made him look like a pedophile stalker. Like OJ said, I also hought Sol kept saying virgins.

[@NeterRafi77]

Leslie was the assistant of a pdf file

[@custardgannet4836]

He is, that's gonna be the twist in the finale episode. He's also the greatest sith lord that ever lived or something.

[@budgiecat9039]

​@@custardgannet4836 Hold up! We still need to see what happens with Jedi Martian Manhater who he keeps avoiding now, who seems very sus herself

[@MedalionDS9]

"Write what you know" ~Harvey Weinstein's former personal assistant

[@Rogue-a-Pogue]

I feel sorry for the cast member who has to play Sol at Galaxy's Edge. Most awkward meet and greet ever.

[@von_blitzkreig8928]

But the "creatives" behind Star Wars now have said publicly that they deliberatly set out to piss off the fans. This isnt surprising anymore.

[@Mark__838]

Sol: I have a connection with Osha. Mae shows up, Sol: Osha!

[@Nick-qq2nq]

The worst part is the fake paid positive engagement on Disney social media

[@S3SSioN_Solaris]

People will do anything for the chance to visit DisKnee world.

[@phoenixsplash135]

Keep in mind in a previous episode they warp from coruscant to that planet in like 20 minutes... So dude is homesick when he is a 20 minutes away. It makes no sense.

[@noahgray9799]

The demon shadow crap looked more like a rip off of The Mummy when he’d turn into sand

[@curian1286]

Thought the same thing lol

[@Username18981]

The Schwartz is now the superior Force.

[@flameroad123]

That end credit song is the official death of Star Wars.

[@user-xj3ve7wt8k]

160, 180 millions for a show ? So, the real question is "Who took the money?", because you can be damn sure, they didn't spend on the show.

[@RRRRRRRRR33]

This can sound like a joke for some, but you can smell the stench of money laundering from a mile away. Disney investors should demand some kind of explanation, maybe pay for a external audition, etc ever since Disney started to engorge, buying companies left and right, seems like they are producing awful products on purpose

[@ESPirits87]

Money laundering, all companies do it, you can expect 30-40% of all projects budget of any company to be diverted around, the bigger the company the more hussling.

[@kratosgow721]

Showrunner probably pocketed alot of it

[@S1nwar]

The sets do look expensive. But still about a factor 10 missing

[@yellowflash511]

​@@ESPirits87 not all, companies which are connected with the deep state. Disney is instantly connected hence they're extremely woke

[@MatoVuc]

"just wait for the answers. You can't judge the show until you do" Well, turns out i could judge the show before the predictably bad writing was predictably even worse... Colour me surprised

[@Simbabweman]

Imagine watching a Harry Potter spin off prequel series where the most powerful wizard at a different point tried to avada kadavra twin babies and they survived, went to hogwarts and fought the dark wizard every year. Also all the teachers are creeps and the spells all have different names but do the same things. It feels like that's the type of imagination and disrespect to the source material within the same franchise happening here where anakin is just thrown out the window.

[@HisNameWasCrazy]

Luke was around twenty when Yoda told him he was too old as a last ditch attempt to avoid training him, which instantly failed. That somehow morphed into having to start training when you're 4 years old in the Prequel Era, and now THAT has morphed into the Jedi looking like a bunch of creepy child predators.

[@TheFatalcrest]

XD They really could have set a better age up but i suppose with attachments that gets hard to do

[@budgiecat9039]

​@@TheFatalcrestI think it stems from that old documentary 7 Up, where psychologists theorizes that children become set in their personalities by age 7. Also in terms of safe harbor laws where a person can abandon a baby to law enforcement or hospitals no questions asked as long as its before 30 days after birth 😂

[@mostlyguesses8385]

... it would be cool if Lucas said RECENTLY RIGHT WHEN QUIGONJIN AS KICKED OFF THR COUNCIL the Jedi changed to recruiting children and buying off parents will billions in bribes, and thus the Jedi chose to keep power via evil. It's 100% evil to take 5 year old from parents, to be in dorms and by 10 going on combat missions. Lucas maybe had a genius twist based on this which he dropped when he got distracted by all the hate the Phantom Menace got ...... Lucas was Californian, allowing a military order to take children WOULD seem wrong to him yet he slid that in to Phantom Menace .. weird.... The clones were children too.... Double weird. I know I'm stretching logic, but Lucas maybe was gonna fight against politicizing kids to take sides in mega complex issues like climate change or income inequality, that is issue Lucas in 1990s would see was occuring.... The Republic and Jedi brainwashing children was evil and this alone would justify the Sith takking over and even lecturing saying you child abusing Republic practice evil while denying it and at least the sith don't deny it..... If the sith took over Nazi Germany we all would feel yeah that feels historically right and a just outcome .... ... I know the "bureaucracy and waste" of the Republic was supposedly bad and led to weakness but we never really saw this, no golden statutes and no rich politicians rich from theft, so the Republic falling seemed a shock...... The USA falling into dictatorship we could believe, we each pay like half our money in taxes so clearly it's being stolen or wasted, but we never saw this was also the Republics situation.... Lucas you maniac what were you going for?

[@Shatterhand2049]

OJ: "I'm just holding out for Andor." You and me both, brother. I need some actually good Star Wars again, desperately.

[@eduardopena5893]

Somebody told me something that still sticks with me to this day. What do all of the greatest stories have in common? They all come to an end.

[@gamedude412]

Torbin homesick to death and Korril is the sole reason all the witches get killed. The show wasted 1/4 of time on replaying the event and then rebel moons director cutting the same footage

[@tychodragon]

Watching These three talk about this shitty show is way more entertaining than a 180 million dollar star wars show ever will be by miles. What a world

[@StuffForsale-p8j]

- Bad Writing - Bad Acting - Bad Everything

[@dontbeorbeevil]

Matrix and Master squid game showed acting. The rest worse with Amanda being horrendous. But it makes sense, she was the one that did not even need casting.

[@ministryofwrongthink6962]

The official [Audio Description Mode] setting on D+ explicitly refers to it as a "METAL DETECTOR" - Which means either the Jedi are literally looking for magic traces with actual metal detectors in-canon....OR, the show is so bad Disney is literally lying to blind people "watching" the show. Idk which is funnier 💀

[@PortfolioPL]

OR the person who0 wrote that made a mistake

[@ministryofwrongthink6962]

@@PortfolioPLNo offense, but that's literally even dumber. The audio description is a fully scripted and voiced assistance mode. It would've had to go through multiple channels of someone being able to correct it if it weren't true. And even if it IS just a human error... that's a pretty damn big f**k up to add to the piles of f**k ups on this show! 😂

[@PortfolioPL]

@@ministryofwrongthink6962 Sure but how is a metal detector makes sense when they are looking for virgins?

[@MedalionDS9]

Maybe Midichlorians are high in iron?

[@jayspeed2068]

Jedi Torbin acts like a child because he's been away from home for 7 weeks. Jedi Sol acts like a stalker because he wants a padawan so bad. Jedi Inara decides to lie and hide the truth from the Jedi council. Jedi is the establishment and establishment is bad. Defund the Jedi... 😂

[@NeterRafi77]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@budgiecat9039]

I wouldn't be surprised if that's another hidden social political message Leslye threw in there 😂

[@PortfolioPL]

Let's call the defund the Jedi act: Order 66.

[@eduardopena5893]

Because the goal was to destroy the franchise and make it in a new image. Think about it. In the original series, the Jedi are true, good, and almost entirely white male. The main villain is also a white male. We can't have that in our current day and age. The "good" has to be destroyed and shown to be worse than the evil. The men have to be all terrible and the females and minorities must be shown as the bestest ever.

[@arkeshn729]

​@@eduardopena5893problem is everyone is presented as azz characters

[@mrcatcake1264]

Sol keeps banging on about a connection he feels with Osha, but he can't tell Mae and Osha apart. Oh boy 🤦

[@chaosinorderrr]

The Padawan getting on his bike to kidnap the twins... it's TORBIN TIME!

[@Boomer04888]

That ending credits song... JFC. Next thing you know, Niki Minaj is gonna be singing WAP over the text crawl in the movies 5 years from now

[@marxs1032]

Lol

[@BorsPepsi]

Yuck

[@anthonysolis8933]

I used to have a best friend like Joe and Joe, a friend that I could be myself around and that thought I was funny. I miss him so much. You guys are lucky to have each other. 😢

[@Brendanj101]

"They can't possibly make this worse" -Joe "Here hold my power of maaaaannnnnny~" Acolyte (probably)

[@ggom603]

The difference between this and something that’s dumb-fun is Disney and Leslie actually believe in their hearts that this is good television.

[@ifghw013]

calling star wars trash is an insult to trash

[@Kerry-xu6ep]

Calling it now... The Mother that survived will go to Tatooine and will meet Shmi Skywalker and that is how Anakin is born.... I hate myself for thinking that...

[@Zeitgeist2000]

zabraks dont live for hundreds of years, this is 300 years before anakin is born

[@ThePropaneSalesman]

​@@Zeitgeist2000 uhh the Force umm uhhh finds a way

[@Vladabdf]

​@@Zeitgeist2000This is about 80 years before TPM. Where did you get 300?

[@i_bomb_atomikly9692]

Noooooooooo!!!! 😂😂😂

[@Robert.David.]

Take yourself outside and give yourself a good slapping for thinking that up.... I'm hoping to high hell they didn't think of that ...

[@steviewonder0850]

Anyone else get mad creepy groomer vibes from how obsessed Sol is with kidnapping this child he barely knows? If it wasn't Star Wars I would have assumed it was the writer's intention, bizarre.

[@rendermaterial]

Write what you know 😂

[@Legoboy55able]

That's the one bit I actually don't mind because I actually agree with him. Jedi are knights for peace and justice, not the shit disney take where they're a religious cult. From his POV he is saving these kids from an abusive environment and from a REAL cult, which is why he's so desperate. In his eyes, he needs to save these kids and give them a better chance to develop their skills without the brainwashing. And no, idc for the shit take that the jedi brainwash. They do, and always have, teach right from wrong and how to seek out and destroy evil, just as they always have done.

[@anotherhappylanding4746]

Well.she was weinsteins PA

[@takuid]

@@Legoboy55able you are right about Jedi not brainwashing people. Jedi are Jedi but not in Disney Star Wars. What people don't like is not the fact that Sol wanted to save these children from these clearly crazy and evil witches but the way he talks and acts with respect to this issue does not bear the characteristics or a Jedi, a composed, logical, patient and resourceful person with integrity. He acts like a predator who wants to groom a child. The idiots who compared him to Qui Gon are effing regarded. He is the worst.

[@MedalionDS9]

"write from what you know"

[@josephblumenthal1228]

Kathleen Kennedy seems to hate her own fans and harbor a deep resentment towards Spielberg and Lucas?

[@НикакНетфамилии]

The biggest twist of this episode (and the entire series) is that there is/was no twist. What a twist! Expectations subverted. Subversions expected.

[@edgarjacksby1402]

…Was there supposed to be a twist? This wasnt some murder mystery show, the culprit was revealed to us in the first episode.

[@LizardSpork]

​​​@@edgarjacksby1402The twist was it was all the Jedi's fault for trying to rescue a child from a weird cult and defending themselves from said cults attack and FORCING the other psychotic child into burning her home to the ground!

[@edgarjacksby1402]

@@LizardSpork yeah the prequels already established the jedi republic was kinda dumb, so this show shouldnt get worse treatment for being consistent

[@mikerosoft1009]

We knew the Jedi killed them in episode 3. After that episode I like 'Ya the Jedi did it and I can't wait to see them do it because this cult deserves what they get." I'm glad episode 7 showed us what we already knew. The Jedi are the good guys.

[@denzelrobert]

@@edgarjacksby1402 You ate defending the Character Flip flopping, stupid scenes like Sol caring the bridges instead of the twins with the force and Aimless storytelling

[@thamorian]

Anything Star Wars after Disney's acquisition is not canon.

[@David-ys4ud]

Disagree, andor was awesome, rouge one was amazing. I actually liked the mandalorian

[@zachwolf239]

@@David-ys4ud who asked

[@iAnasazi]

For Star Trek, anything after ENT isn't canon. They fucked us over pretty good.

[@thelastjedi3259]

​@@zachwolf239 Most people who actually like Star Wars.

[@espo221b]

​@David-ys4ud You can like it, but it is still disney wars. Not star wars.

[@MarkLittle-rq2bq]

Jedi Master Trinity severed the WiFi router disconnecting the Witches from the Matrix proving she is the Chosen One!

[@peposo7]

"That's why I have a padawan, and you don't".

[@RaymondSanders-f8c]

Bingo. The Acolyte is in the Matrix CONFIRMED. -Allegedly 😅😅😁😁

[@jk22222sd]

The fact the show creator discussed how a future season might link to Darth Plagueis seems to make me so unenthusiastic about the final episode. Assuming it’s accurate.