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@biggyfishy130 Жыл бұрын
Well I guess they were onto something when they suggested you just attack someone using protect
@mrundy9351 Жыл бұрын
A funfair from Gen 1 is that a move can do so little damage that it is considered a miss. Pikaspray has a video about a frozen gengar being forced into a battle against a nidoran with poison sting upon start up of the game.
@N1201511 ай бұрын
I'm sure gen 5 also has something similar. Use reflect on a very bulky pokémon who resists normal (Aka Bronzong or Arceus Steel), go to route 1 and watch how the ugly rats and Lillipups literally do 0 damage.
@syan224011 ай бұрын
@@N12015what??? Do you have a video??
@jordanbrown366011 ай бұрын
@@N12015 yes, but it's not considered a "miss" in Gen 5, whereas in gen 1 any attacking move that deals 0 damage after calculations is considered a miss.
@_RedRightHand_9 ай бұрын
Can you link Pikasprey's video?
@Opallegro11 ай бұрын
Regarding accuracy and evasion, a difference of 6 stages is the maximum chance that can affect a move's chance to hit. Meaning a pokemon with -6 accuracy is actually no less likely to hit a pokemon with +6 evasion than it is to hit a pokemon with +0 evasion
@KingTheLuck11 ай бұрын
Fascinating I didn't know that!
@fiendfi711911 ай бұрын
@@KingTheLuck hustle?
@plompedu11 ай бұрын
Would it cap out at 3 Eva and -3 acc too then?
@SteveIsHavingMC11 ай бұрын
@@plompedu yes
@Weldedhodag11 ай бұрын
the fact that you included lowest chance to hit as a short little freebie actually made this video way more entertaining, and was pretty cool of you
@funwithcoding281811 ай бұрын
False swipe on 1 hp was a unique take. A lot better than just miss/protect
@heroponriki59219 ай бұрын
I'll be honest I never would have guessed the minimum possible damage involved using a water type z-move on an Onix
@luna631511 ай бұрын
this feels like a brian david gilbert video if he was irish and didnt have polygon funding him for unravled
@Marapetersen111 ай бұрын
For the move failure one I’d agree that’s probably the lowest you can get with a consistent set up but every time you use protect successfully the chance of success is characterized by a fraction where the denominator is 3 to the power of previous successes in a row so there actually is no lowest chance of a move succeeding bc I believe there’s no cap on how many protects could happen in a row
@jeezuhskriste575911 ай бұрын
That’s also something you could do for that setup. Have Spinda use protect that turn and the turn before. Now there’s an extra 33% chance for it to fail
@Melimcee11 ай бұрын
There actually might be a limit here, even if not one explicitly programmed in. Computers suck when it comes to random numbers, and doing stuff like rolling die, but can generate close approximations. This would definitely require a deep dive into how RNG works for whatever pokemon game you decide to do this in, but as an example one way you can handle flipping a coin asking the computer to generate a pseudorandom number, that is either 1 or 2, and then if that number is 1 it can return heads or tails for a 2. You could similarly test for heads on a theoretical three sided coin by asking it to generate a number of 1, 2, or 3 and only letting you pass if you get exactly a 1. You can say the odds are 1/n where n represents an n-sided dice or coin or whatever, and maybe n can represent the chance of protect succeeding, so it would be 3 on the second protect, 9 on the third, etc. The issue is that there is a practical limit to how high n can be in computer software. You can certainly represent and calculate using massive numbers in computers, but for something like a video game it's pretty rare to need to go higher than the 32 bit integer limit and so most programmers will pretty liberally just use a data type that breaks when it goes higher than that, (using datatypes that can represent larger numbers when unnecessary can bloat ram usage) so if the system that game uses is designed in such a way that it is incapable of going past the 32bit integer, then the chance would either be 1 / the 32bit integer limit or 1 / whatever power of 3 gets closest to the 32 bit integer limit without going over. Once n passes that limit no telling what happens.
@n0ame1u111 ай бұрын
@@MelimceeNow I'm really curious to see how it works. I wonder if someone has looked at the source code or something and has the precise answer as to how it's implemented
@chargingbadger8679 ай бұрын
@@jeezuhskriste5759you don't need multiple consective protects - protect has an incredibly small chance to fail on the first turn it's used: 1 in 65,536
@chargingbadger8679 ай бұрын
This only applies in ruby and sapphire, though
@awesomelink234711 ай бұрын
Well, since the splitting always rounds down, it's only possible to reach an initial Defense of 613 using the Guard Split trick. Still impressive tho!
@rhythmlessroxby11 ай бұрын
This channel is so criminally underrated, I love your humour
@jeziahfrancis265811 ай бұрын
In regards to the lowest chance to hit, couldnt we also be using flinch moves to further lower the chances???
@rxvvy_11 ай бұрын
That doesn't affect the move's chance of hitting though, only the pokemon's chance of being able to attempt an attack
@limerumpus358911 ай бұрын
@@rxvvy_he included move failing in the video
@LieseFury11 ай бұрын
@@rxvvy_paralyze and confuse were included though
@claykc991811 ай бұрын
I'm especially late to the party but you might have missed the Water Sport move, it straights up divide by 3 all fire move damage, so I think it might be better than water on grass.
@jmv333 Жыл бұрын
Loved this vid! Can't wait to see more from you in future, in between your 2 videos, KZbinr The ChipTide also covered this topic, with interesting & different results! I would love to see whatever you did next, anything maths in pokemon is pretty fun, like catch rates, base stats, wild encounter odds etc..,
@hamzakhaliqgonzales11 ай бұрын
you can use clampearl with deep sea scale(it does X2 instead of X1.5 to SpD)instead of onix, it gets mimic too.
@hamzakhaliqgonzales11 ай бұрын
sorry i didn't see the burn you can ignore this comment
@parasectsandwich11 ай бұрын
Still a cool idea
@sheeplol216111 ай бұрын
you can do a ditto that hasnt transformed yet+metal powder but that doesnt get mimic
@kirbyfreakyt469511 ай бұрын
Okay, now: *What are the highest possible stats/moves/items/abilities that you can only do 1 damage with?*
@andormak84027 ай бұрын
If the target has Focus Band, the same as the highest damage possible. If Focus Band doesn't count (I agree, it is a boring answer), I don't know.
@kirbyfreakyt46957 ай бұрын
@@andormak8402 Or sturdy on a 2 hp Pokemon lolol
@andormak84027 ай бұрын
@@kirbyfreakyt4695 is there even a pokemon (besides Shedinja) with 2 hp?
@kirbyfreakyt46957 ай бұрын
@@andormak8402 They'd have to be level 1...
@a_jamespsullivan891511 ай бұрын
I love just seeing this channel pop ! Like I watched the video where he said he celebrates every subscriber and I subscribed because he just wants his work appreciated what I didn’t expect was all the love and comments he’s been getting and on top of that ! You can tell he’s actually reading each comment ! Good for you man and congrats on 9k subscribers
@HighlandHellboy Жыл бұрын
Great vid, but also as a Scot, I feel ya about “British”ness, *shivers*
@nerdymidwesterner3662 Жыл бұрын
When you live in America, everyone from Europe is "Bri'ish"
@JoeThomas-lu6fy11 ай бұрын
Scotland's in Britain.
@1stCallipostle11 ай бұрын
@@nerdymidwesterner3662Everyone who uses British English at least.
@pokeoh183111 ай бұрын
For the evasion glitch thing, and apologies in advance if I'm stupid, would you be able to switch out the durant into a togekiss for the serence grace 60% flinch chance with air slash for an even higher chance to fail?
@KingTheLuck11 ай бұрын
Absolutely you could, it just never occurred to me!
@jeezuhskriste575911 ай бұрын
@@KingTheLuckI think you could also have Spinda use protect that turn and the turn before for an extra 33% chance to miss
@sideways515311 ай бұрын
Blanket reply to everybody talking about overflow glitches: Pokémon has (to my knowledge) always structured values within the code to count up from zero. No negative numbers. An overflow would result in the damage number rolling over from the maximum number to zero and then continuing to increase from zero. Essentially, overflows in Pokémon subtract the maximum possible value from the stat. For example in Gen 1 Mewtwo can use amnesia to put its special stat above 1023. There are safeguards to prevent the rollover (for example damage calculations use 999 instead of the real value), but under the right circumstances an overflow error can be caused which reduces Mewtwo’s special stat by 1023. Unless there’s a massive cache of glitches introduced in some generation related to negative integers that I’ve never heard about, there’s no such thing as “negative damage” in Pokémon. Only damage and healing.
@chocokittybo11 ай бұрын
Evie (ChicasaurasGL) has a video titled "turning water sport into a healing move" which involves using watersport on a level 100 Kyogre in the rain with several special attack boosts while having underflowed hp due to the pomeg glitch, resulting in actually dealing negative damage to a low level geodude. I will link the video in a second reply in case comments containing links get autodeleted on this channel
@vyor883711 ай бұрын
@@chocokittybo the link was nuked
@xBox360BENUTZER11 ай бұрын
@@chocokittybo I think you meant Water Spout? If yes then the dmg doesnt overflow cause negative HP divided by your max HP is still negative HP and thus you heal.
@xBox360BENUTZER11 ай бұрын
@@vyor8837 watch?v=OdHRxG9jC0U
@chocokittybo11 ай бұрын
@@xBox360BENUTZER I did absolutely mean water spout, got it correct on some of the other comments I think. And the hp isn't treated as negative for the calculations I'm pretty sure
@stevenreckling20311 ай бұрын
When I saw onix, I assumed it had to do with sandstorm upping the defense of ground types.
@totokekedile11 ай бұрын
Sandstorm ups the *special* defense of *rock* types. It doesn't affect the stats of ground types at all.
@JazzyAthenian Жыл бұрын
Great followup unfortunately you can still get lower. A week after your original video The chiptide uploaded a video on the same topic and got a 0.02 something
@KingTheLuck Жыл бұрын
I just took a look there, I have no idea where he's getting that number from since I'm doing everything he's doing and more 😅
@HaydenTheEeeeeeeeevilEukaryote11 ай бұрын
0.02 or 0.002?
@Aidan-se8yk11 ай бұрын
@@KingTheLuck I believe your video is actually the one with the incorrect number as I did the math with everything said in the video and got ~0.24914 which happens to be roughly what you get if you multiply the number you found by .75 (My guess is that you forgot to add friend guard when you actually did the math as that is the only time to multiply by .75 outside the base power/stats section.).
@nockcone11 ай бұрын
I cant think of any way to deal less damage but I can think of plenty of ways to do more!
@awesomelink234711 ай бұрын
4:08 Nope. Total "combined" accuracy stage is capped at -6, so the multiplier because of this cannot drop lower than 1/3.
@johndoe-rq1pu9 ай бұрын
The actual, actual least amount of damage possible is me clicking any 90% accurate move.
@nukelewman11 ай бұрын
That commentor calling you british floored me, Connolly shaking in his grave
@Cyrllo11 ай бұрын
Average American level of intelligence lmao
@memeinstein696511 ай бұрын
The idea is really solid though, I believe cleffairy is better than onix due to access to Role Play as well as Mimic to copy an ability to halve damage. Plus it would be much easier to get in games due to Mimic being obtainable by breeding and Role Play being a move tutor attack in USUM.
@lo0ner11 ай бұрын
4:45 dream: you underestimate my power
@jane588611 ай бұрын
3 minutes in and my mans about to mail some pipe bombs in Minecraft. Absolute legend
@Amalgam0311 ай бұрын
Just as an aside for the lowest accuracy, since you are also looking at fail chance as well, wouldn’t two togekiss using air slash on the magmortar also drop the chance of landing the hit even more?
@myriad356911 ай бұрын
Definitely jirachi with iron head with a 100% accuracy
@beautifulnova608811 ай бұрын
Rain and sun aren't the only way to reduce the power of moves. Grassy terrain weakens certain ground type moves, including magnitude. So a bug/grass type in grassy terrain against magnitude might have something to it.
@gamercore521611 ай бұрын
Damn bro called an Irish a Brit, he's dead and burried
@Lord_Lv111 ай бұрын
This is the quintessence of Pokémon and it’s why I’m here
@Pokemaniac_Nick6 ай бұрын
For the highest chance of missing part you could have just said "use focus blast"
@NoahStar Жыл бұрын
can you find out if its possible to do pi damage in pokemon
@gabrielfonseca164211 ай бұрын
It's not possible since all the calculations use rational numbers. But you might be able to do an approximation, like 3.14 damage for example.
@xanderlastname328111 ай бұрын
Me ans the boys dealing "i" damage in pokemon
@undertaleandminecraftfan918411 ай бұрын
you can deal 0 damage with sturdy shedninja
@a-s-greig11 ай бұрын
Reminds me of the time I paralyzed a Sturdy Shed in Smogon Hackmons. Played myself so hard.
@sp-dy5il11 ай бұрын
To the guy who called him british, he put a pipe bomb in your mailbox
@mr.cauliflower353611 ай бұрын
if healing is done by a damaging move, it's negative damage, eg. through overflow
@sideways515311 ай бұрын
This is not how damage overflow/underflow errors work in Pokémon, and so not even by this technicality is negative damage a thing in Pokémon.
@DefinitelyNotAFerret11 ай бұрын
Those suspenders are so cute on him
@spluff511 ай бұрын
You could make the chance to hit much much less by having spinda use protect two times in a row and giving the attacker Truant and trying to attack on a loaf turn. Have a second pokemon also be paralysed and confused, as well as infatuated use skill swap so that the attacker will only be able to attack if skill swap goes trhough, and then it breaks through its own status, and protect fails.
@spluff511 ай бұрын
Also, the chance to un-freeze is lower than the chance to hit through paralysis. With the ability passage thing, you could perform it in a triple battle, passing between six pokemon to theoretically raise the probability of hitting through all thre status conditions to the power of six
@CEDelJEFE9 ай бұрын
Small comment on the possibility to hit. If instead of para you freeze magmortar, then you only have the % of thawing instead of 75% of not being paralized
@nhbons7836 ай бұрын
If the magmortar uses hyper-beam the turn before the hit chance is lower:)
@robertlupa82739 ай бұрын
6:55 Should've called it Aquarium Z :P
@memegamerthe3rd77711 ай бұрын
Maybe water sport or mud sport are useful? They reduce the damage of fire and electric moves right? It might be base power though from the ingame text idk
@joeytheslimeboi890011 ай бұрын
I’m the complete opposite, I thought Water Shuriken was always a Physical move and never changed to special lol
@cestariviere11 ай бұрын
Pokemon content 'bout mechanics in a way I probably would never use in my life again? Glad to see that I'm not the only one 🤩 ksksk -and, Gee! You're exactly like your model 💫
@tranoss184311 ай бұрын
Would it be possible to skill swap Fur Coat onto the Onix for doubled defense?
@shanerpressley11 ай бұрын
This!
@mgarcia239711 ай бұрын
Air slash from serene grace Togekiss would make it less likely to land a hit
@davidevilla727611 ай бұрын
U said even lower? Same setup but with chansey using z-move metronome until you get aqua jet (unlikely but possible) and you don’t have a base attack of 15 (like smeargle) but of 5. (Yes, I know that it’s final attack stat is already 1, but still, theoretically lower)
@blueyandicy11 ай бұрын
also "do you think i don't know what the number 0 is" 💀
@mouse_eater9 ай бұрын
You can actually get the lowest chance of hitting by using focus blast normally
@anactualfingbottleofranch74711 ай бұрын
2:32 sensational grammar
@clicktuck11 ай бұрын
LCE minigame music my beloved
@homuraakemi328711 ай бұрын
Wouldn't King's Rock Maushold hitting all 10 pop bombs with Stench skill swapped to it (not sure about this one given Bulbapedia just says it 'doesn't stack' with rock) increase the failure chance considerably? Or do flinches not count?
@DemiIsNotHere11 ай бұрын
Serene grace beat up with kings rock has a slighly higher chance
@devonlawrence74418 ай бұрын
i thought you were an animated character… you mean to tell me you’ve been a real guy this whole time?
@blueyandicy11 ай бұрын
HOLY SHIT HE'S A REAL PERSON
@MegaKBang11 ай бұрын
Gen 1 has a glitch that you actually can do a minimum damage of 0 if you're weak enough.(dunno if that was mentioned in the first video)
@jacobalonso2859 Жыл бұрын
Well it's a finisher
@GOATexp5 ай бұрын
My favorite British KZbinr!!
@Hydrogenium110 ай бұрын
Excellent video. Now, what about the most unpredictable damage? like, magnitude being less predictable than seismic toss?
@invghost5 ай бұрын
In regards to the accuracy move, you're better off using Focus Blast. It says it has more accuracy, but we all know the truth.
@Guidingsonar11 ай бұрын
Tbh, I didn't even notice a distinct accent. Where I live it is a combo of A LOT of the states. Which has quite the veriety. I even day y'all un-ironicly as if im south. Been asked if I'm south even because of it.
@zanderwoods543411 ай бұрын
what about a gigantomax pokemon hitting through protect?
@benarslan61523 күн бұрын
why not use fluffy as onix ability? it doubles the attack
@h_379510 ай бұрын
you forgot about wonder room. use macargo with a defense stat of 120 instead of tatsugiris spd of 95
@scientificallyaccuratespino Жыл бұрын
Underrated as hell
@oreoeater661511 ай бұрын
Since pain split can deal damage wouldn't that count
@flamewear11 ай бұрын
would water sport also lower the power of the gen 9 one or did that move get snapped?
@jojihiggins3873 Жыл бұрын
Amazing video
@Izzythemaker12711 ай бұрын
I wonder if a negative healing move would be able to make a Pokémon faint, or if the way they programmed healing prevents it.
@mioszbogdan424711 ай бұрын
You know that you could Skill Swap Fur Coat from Furfrou to additionallt doubles Onix defense stat, right?
@maxsayko348011 ай бұрын
Hey I'm not smart or anything nor is my knowledge high BUT. Can't we use larion with evolutite
@d.sack272711 ай бұрын
HEALING IS NEGATIVE DAMAGE
@notster711411 ай бұрын
Does doing 0.003 damage mean onix would survive even on 1hp? Would like to see you use freeze dry and endure to get it to 1hp and then do this again
@moerkx130411 ай бұрын
No, except for generation 1, if a damaging move hits and the target is not immune it deals at least 1 damage. So this 0.003 damage is only theoretic when you go through the calculations yourself.
@N1201511 ай бұрын
Depends. Gen 1? Yup. Gen 2-4? Nope. Gen 5? If it's behind reflect. Gen 6-? Not at all.
@AstrumKitten0917 ай бұрын
"Why do british people insist on pronouncing the letter H in an acronym where H is the first letter." Sums up that one comment you got.
@thejoeyguy_11 ай бұрын
I know people keep mentioning False Swipe at 1, but you can do a weird gimmick with False Swipe at 1 and then the opposing Pokémon uses Counter, that actually does do damage. How much? I have no idea, cause 2 x 0 =/= 1
@chlorobyte_projects11 ай бұрын
It still does 1 damage.
@male_maid595111 ай бұрын
wouldn't "clamp" be less damage if you don;t factor in the damage passive damage?
@Caliban20111 ай бұрын
How long did it take dynamic punch to land?
@MOVED_acc.14411 ай бұрын
2:06 🤨
@originalmei9 ай бұрын
0 is not the lowest damage you can take, BECAUSE 0 is no damage at all. so you didnt cause damage.
@MateusSFigueiredo11 ай бұрын
Description should have link to part 1
@KingTheLuck11 ай бұрын
Good shout!
@MateusSFigueiredo11 ай бұрын
Wow that was quick! Thank you!
@mariocruno377211 ай бұрын
What ir The highest possible attack phases off The biggest defense
@NathanCotrill11 ай бұрын
4:44 Also serene grace togekiss flinching Mag?
@dinoe585911 ай бұрын
Using endeavor, which is classified as a physical attacking move, on a target pokemon that has a HP greater than or equal to your own pokemon. The attack connects... and does absolutely 0 damage. A bit dull for sure, so it probably won't count.
@youngfacade419711 ай бұрын
So have a pokemon with 1 hp more, the lowest attack stat possible, highest defense on the other pokemon, and triple resist. Maybe that would help?
@edwardmorvan5809 Жыл бұрын
Great wideo!
@michawegrzyn489711 ай бұрын
But would it kill a shedinja?
@BramLastname11 ай бұрын
Yes
@thealientree382111 ай бұрын
It's 1.
@GodzillaFreak11 ай бұрын
Greninja is mixed isn’t it?
@BramLastname11 ай бұрын
Mostly, It favours Special Attack but they're in the same ballpark.
@GuanlongX11 ай бұрын
good video
@waterierStone11 ай бұрын
Unless there was like some kind of bug where negative damage actually healed then healing is not damage. The most likely way to get negative damage would actually be to stack overflow error a game. Like do so much damage that the numbers roll over into the negative. They become too high for a computer to process, so it just circles back into negative instead.
@sideways515311 ай бұрын
That’s not generally how the damage calculations are structured in Pokémon, an overflow or underflow would result in neighboring data being corrupted or the number rolling over to zero and starting again from there. In fact in Gen 1 Ubers it’s possible to glitch Mewtwo’s special stat into overflowing, which sets it to a low number easily taken advantage of by most other Pokémon.
@chocokittybo11 ай бұрын
In gen 3 it's possible to deal negative damage under very specific circumstances if you've already underflowed the hp of a kyogre, at least according to this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/hZWrg6t9bs92Zrcsi=cdx3qcqJt7pbhXJh
@RealNikTrustMe11 ай бұрын
you actually can get the absolute minimal damage that's even lower, you just gotta play pokemon sleep
@quilesboy11 ай бұрын
Just miss a move 0 damage lol
@PeteDavid-gw4qk11 ай бұрын
Use math to figure out what pokemon would be the strongest against my Uncle Jacob
@joseihandlenotavailable11 ай бұрын
shovel knight
@ultimatemacchia11 ай бұрын
Doesn't the damage get rounded up to 1 anyway?
@NikkiNighteye11 ай бұрын
Subs instantly gain a ×6 morbillion damage multiplier so if u wanna win just hehe yknow what u do amiright Irish ftw
@Shugunou11 ай бұрын
I can definitely understand why Irish people would hate being called British. The UK is awful.
@Interesting_Failure11 ай бұрын
For all the silly gotcha answers I've seen in the comments on the previous video and this one, I still haven't seen anyone point out that Heal Pulse does negative damage. EDIT: You know what I posted this after pausing the video like two seconds before the "healing is not negative damage" part and I'm going to cop to that by not deleting the comment.
@abigriffin94969 ай бұрын
Dude, obv the least damage you can do post gen 1 is 1 damage 🤓