The AI Behind Old Birds

[@napstamelon]

basically a employee wearing nothing but space equipment can tank 5 tons of metal falling on them point blank

[@Bupboy]

Anything for the company

[@I.O_Productions]

For the Company!!

[@Byonoxy_bot7]

Bud those "space equipment" is no ordinary space equipment it's from the company!

[@RyeBreadFF]

Ladders, though? Fatal.

[@te-m4329]

They're on moons, so less gravity?

[@misterfister5810]

The list of sounds old birds make -various sounds of a crying baby -sounds of a dog screaming -Distorted radio chatter -some kind of song -heavily distorted looped chittering -“TO WAR TO GLOOORRRY” Another fact is that it’s said that these sounds are so loud that it could cause hearing damage when you’re in close proximity of them (more of a lore/trivial thing than gameplay mechanic)

[@randomtexanguy9563]

If your volume is high enough then it will become something beyond a game mechanic...

[@Garpii]

@@randomtexanguy9563 full immersion

[@mrevident1970]

They can also make monkey sounds for some reason

[@joaoborgesrodriguesalves6554]

FOR THE EMPEROOOOOOR

[@totoisayal5045]

Hey you're the guy with those convict leaks and stuff, cool

[@hendizzl7921]

Its so cool to see how earth leviathans are at the top of the food chain and can kill anything

[@ry6554]

What about the Company

[@Titananderson]

@@ry6554 we dont really know enough about the monster inside the company to compare it to things like the earth worm or forest keepers

[@Titananderson]

@@ry6554 wait nvm i forgot it ate a planet

[@kingis_dingis8103]

@@Titanandersonwait what?

[@plushiepenguin]

Bless the maker and his water

[@ThatNerdGuy0]

i love that the earthworm is always at the top of the food chain, theres something so satisfying to me about a powerful foe getting absolutely demolished by a neutral third party

[@rydergolde3169]

arguably only the Old Birds are truly neutral, bc they can aggro onto anything meanwhile the worm, while very much able to obliterate anything, will only aggro on players in summary: robot is more neutral, worm is more powerful but still somewhat neutral

[@SomethingLog]

Shai Hulud wills it

[@Titananderson]

@@rydergolde3169 i dont think the summary on three lines of text was necessary but i appreciate it

[@Dummydude]

"The animatronic do get a bit quirky at night"

[@chboo1897]

oh no, he is hitting a devious griddy!

[@derfnaf_master8819]

This man is a man of culture

[@Fangamer1254]

I always co-

[@TheVectisEmpire]

10/10 comment

[@Dalekssupreme]

Fnaf was such a disaster to the internet.

[@trollster7133]

Genuinely one of the most terrified I have ever been in any horror game was walking back to the ship and suddenly hearing an old bird wake up, then turning around to see hell on earth as it flies towards me. That was the fastest I have ever pulled the ship lever in my life

[@jacer445u5]

Why can I hear you raising hell as you ran to the ship screaming?

[@garyslayton8340]

I think thr only time a game has ever managed to actual, genuanly properly scare the actual shi out of me I think was playing into the radius, and getting trapped inside a shipping yard in the middle of the night, hearing "hello?" In a little girls voice, then VERY fast footsteps sprinting in my direction from behind

[@jacer445u5]

@ The EXACT same thing happened to me 3 weeks ago. Buddies and I were laughing just being bros and we heard what sounded like a plane flying overhead. Then someone HEAVY hitting the ground behind us and a barrage of rockets following. We hauled ass to the ship and “noped” out

[@rikatoziv2520]

Had the same thing happen to me few days ago, luckily i was pretty near the ship but the first few missiles did send me around 30 feet in the air and 15 feet away from the ship, kept circling around the ship and trying to find the chance to enter while my 2 surviving friends kept opening and closing the door. I eventualy managed to get in the ship screaming "My body is so red!"

[@josephjoestar3631]

you obviously don't have the Scopophobia mod downloaded. It's the only enemy in the game that I will instantly pull the lever for if I trigger the attack phase. Nothing in the game will save you from its wrath and those ship doors only have so much power before *clunk* come on in (:

[@snik7real]

Gotta love how the text at 0:13 changes from “30-Instakill” to “It’s Complicated” 💀

[@depressedcrusader3748]

Didn’t even notice that, lol

[@Archbishopofcheeseburger]

Best enemy imo. I love how Zeekers managed to make an enemy that feels so overwhelmingly powerful, but not unfair.

[@nicomom9534]

It's like the giant but actually good

[@jasonsenter1646]

@@nicomom9534aside from the glitching out in place yes

[@z0nch1984]

​@@nicomom9534giants fucking suck I don't know how he hasn't changed them yet

[@rustycookiepekka6875]

Im pretty sure the leftover flames from where their missiles hit can kill you through walls(If youre inside the ship for example).

[@Sleepy_Cabbage]

I wish more games followed this line of design

[@Dummydude]

4:40 "My personal favorite, a baby crying" 💀

[@Godzirra-ee8cm]

It’s my favourite too

[@ro031]

​@@Godzirra-ee8cm💀

[@Creeperstormer]

*sighs* checks comments

[@Sa-vs7xz]

It is really good sound design tho. Babies crying are super disturbing as we have a natural instinct to want to protect them. The thing is luring you to it.

[@Astrawboy_NameAlreadyInUse]

@@Sa-vs7xz Also they are raising the psychological terror. We panic as we hear babies crying, I feel the dread from the sounds. I'm pretty sure it's like Stuka siren, playing the sounds on loop to reduce the player's sanity. I think it's a great game design, very iconic and scary.

[@princesscadance197]

Lethal Company is game built around the idea 'What would happen if we made a game about being brutally murdered actually pretty regularly?'

[@literallydrone]

single dev

[@jimbomcbob7849]

Cruelty Squad did that too with similar results.

[@buwayayay1502]

helldivers 2

[@TheAlexRhodes]

@@buwayayay1502 This guy's a comedian. Everyone knows helldivers never die.

[@cutetrapchicken]

@@TheAlexRhodes Disrespectful to those who gave their lives for Super Earth, The Federation of Super Earth and the Fair Innocent Citizens of our Galaxy.

[@kacperzietkowski5215]

Fun Fact. Their sounds are called "Brainwashing attack" in game files. So propably in lore, they were used as psychological warfare weapons

[@tristencox5914]

It's entirely possible for old birds to never activate, for example, once my friends waited for one to activate on eclipsed offense, it never did, not even as autopilot left. Old birds can also, and I wish I was joking about this, spawn on your planet via the dropship. It came down on the dropship, and stayed floating in the air after dropship left. These are the most broken things in the game(coding wise) Also, to anyone who sees this, Zeekers apparently didn't patch out spike traps spawning too close to main entrance properly, as it happened to me two days ago. It was admittedly very funny, as I didn't even have two seconds to react

[@snoopysnax2291]

lol i had a friend experience the exact same thing with a spike trap and it was hilarious

[@Scazoid]

The dropshi- what??

[@r-techzgaming3914]

​@@Scazoidthink he means the supply rocket

[@thisisavideothing]

Dropship? The automatons are back!

[@clocked0]

​@@thisisavideothingThey never left.

[@TheStitcher447]

These guys sure are something, I was playing with my friends and 2 old birds woke up outside the ship. Keep in mind we were on artifice, so like this is mega danger. We watched one of our friends get engulfed in flames as his scream cuts off in the Firey explosion. We could not find his body and we just dashed to the building, one of us all got killed by a dog trying to warn us about another old bird, said old bird wakes up, disintegrates another guy, I I got into the mansion, only to get blammed by a nutcracker, what a match..

[@chaosinc.382]

A series of truly unfortunate events...

[@lamegamertime]

Correction for the flight phase: Old Birds specifically choose one of the 15 furthest nodes, meaning that they'll usually fly as far as possible. This is notable for a couple of reasons. For one, you can roughly guess where an Old Bird will fly ahead of time. For another, it causes an issue on Embrion where Old Birds tend to clump up around the ship--- the nodes on that map are positioned so as to make the main entrance and ship very likely to be Old Bird destinations.

[@alteregosocial]

very good insight

[@roysamuels9468]

This explains why I've seen Old Birds fly from main entrance STRAIGHT to the ship on Artifice.

[@chboo1897]

@@alteregosocial I told you about this and you chose not to include it lmao

[@lamegamertime]

@@chboo1897 throwing smh

[@chboo1897]

@@lamegamertime fr

[@Brambrew]

Artifice is easily my favorite moon because Old Birds make it so much easier by clearing outdoor entities That plus God tier loot; gold bars and cash registers aplenty

[@straferthesluggo3096]

the V50 trailer will forever be cemented in my mind "Listen for the Old birds call" that sound they make when their spotlight turns on is so memorable too I wonder what kind of message Lethal Company has considering the themes of previous games Zeekerss has made like The Upturned and It Steals. It Steals was seemingly a way to proove that in certain situations there truly is no escape and while you can delay your fate it will still get to you while The Upturned is about how life is truly random and that it is an uncontrollable force uncaring for if you did good things in your life since it can get wiped away by some surreal but absolutely hilarious accident. With Lethal Company though I cannot tell what it's message is since there are things like all the war related stuff, the bioweaponry and how even if you hate your situation there is a worse scenario that can make you reconsider (basically the entire Sigurd plotline) yet there are always diffrent aspects such as mankinds drive to go to war despite the fact it is unnecessary and our strange obsession to make monuments to our greed (the mansions that are present on Dine and Rend). tl;dr: I have no idea what Lethal Company is trying to tell but it feels tragic,have a nice day to whoever is that read this entire thing

[@lamegamertime]

One interpretation of Lethal Company I've heard is the idea of the food chain and there's always a bigger fish. Worms eat giants that eat employees, but all would be eaten by The Company given the chance. With the old birds, this is a new enemy that specifically counters other, previously untouchable enemies. In gameplay this includes the giant, but in lore it also extends to the coilheads.

[@YEs69th420]

It is so very obviously anti-capitalist, from top to bottom.

[@trans_rights_ftw]

This, one of the biggest themes is anti-capitalism lol ​@@YEs69th420

[@toastr1255]

​@@YEs69th420 Indeed. You have "the company" as a giant monster that the employees feed that will uncaringly discard them if they don't do well enough, you have the increasing profit quotas with constant wages (like, scrap always sells for the same amount) as a representation of inflation, you have the job as a whole being a sweatshop... There's definitely some stuff regarding war in there, but it's not the main message.

[@omegadragons321]

its probably something like "space is dangerous and you should absolutely never go there" idk

[@fortes_05]

Me and my friends have deemed old birds as allies and just monster exterminators for a while, they are so easy to deal with and just make the outside so safe, every time we see a dormant old bird we just go "yup, this is gonna be an easy day" especially in adamance and titan

[@skrabman]

i remember over the walkie i was talking to my friend, who was guy in the chair. we were on embrion, he took the apparatus and i simultaneously hear every single old bird wake up, along with my friend panicking over the radio

[@jackwang5074]

As a Young Bird, Old Birds are tough

[@Zel-Veraan]

As a Free Bird, they're still tough.

[@straferthesluggo3096]

as a Paranoid Bird, Old birds are absolutely terrifying and I want to stay the hell away from them

[@noahthesk]

as a non-existent bird old birds are quite boring to watch

[@cy_bl]

As a professional bird, that thing isn't a bird at all

[@coneheadboii]

As an angry bird, Old birds aren't hard to take down if you throw yourself at them.

[@sunnynoah6883]

Old birds are so funky

[@geaechtete_Waschbaer]

I have never seen the cat on your pfp actually looking normal for once

[@ImpostorTheNovaTar]

Absolutely terrified the first time me and my friends encountered this thing on Adamance. It stayed around the ship cuz the Baboon Hawk nest right next to it, and we stayed inside listening to the loud sirens and baby cries trying to figure out what the hell to even do at that point. We ended up leaving. We had enough loot anyways.

[@stagdragon3978]

Similar tonight. Our friend was cracked and got the generator. Then it blocked the curved trail that you have to hike up. I functioned as a distraction while they dropped the reactor and made a run for it. It quickly changed targets. We all actually lived so that was cluch. but we did loose the reactor.

[@chboo1897]

Tiny correction, missiles can't directly hit you, as they only collide with terrain and enemies, not players. Edit: So zeekerss code is definitely very readable, because it can hit players but it checks for it in a different place which is why confusion happened. (It's completely unneeded because it could have been the same way but it isn't for some reason.)

[@sdfggdfg5fgdfg]

Do they actually phase through you? that doesn't seem correct, do you have video evidence I dont care about a response like "I saw the code"

[@roysamuels9468]

This *feels* wrong, but I wouldn't be surprised if I'm mistaken. I swear if been hit with missiles in mid-air, and they end up flinging me further back.

[@chboo1897]

@@sdfggdfg5fgdfg You didn’t need evidence to believe my stuff when alter presented it. I’m pretty sure alter’s testing stream for old birds involved him jumping through a rocket , if you want to go look.

[@charlsondemong4922]

​@@sdfggdfg5fgdfgexactly. it's not like the poster got a shoutout in the video for decompiling Old Birds, putting all their information on a document and accurately explaining every detail, right?

[@sdfggdfg5fgdfg]

@@charlsondemong4922 ok and? It's easy to miss something and I've corrected him before

[@globexcentral2283]

the fact that a machine so simple can be so terrifying is why i love these things, also a detail no one has pointed out is how when they walk, their legs can bend both ways, unlike humans legs, that helps them to feel more simple and unintelligent, only following programming, no sentience, no hatred of humans, just programming,

[@Small_child_punter]

This might be the scariest monster to me. It’s the flight. They’re too damn big to be soaring off the ground. Hell the fact that they attack everything including giants is scary too. Just out for blood.

[@SkyLovesAnimalsAlot]

20 Max spawn is wild. Like what if multiple active after you...

[@crunchylettuce5446]

Time for missile soup

[@z0nch1984]

go to embrion and find out

[@saurianfan7102]

The 20 max spawn is ONLY on Embrion. On every other map (where it can spawn) is much lower, most commonly only 2.

[@sdfggdfg5fgdfg]

Having a stungrenade+ earthworm near you is an easy way to kill Oldbirds. Getting in that situation is a rare occasion though

[@Byonoxy_bot7]

Damn, the earth leviatan be killin everyone

[@Ineophile]

better call v1

[@roselily20062]

6:49 is the mimic doing the distraction dance?

[@MagnaGuy]

Pretty distracting, huh?

[@TyduzT]

He was doing the electro swing

[@MegaBricks17]

THANK YOU, I'VE BEEN NEEDING THIS!!!

[@Frenchy_bee]

Its all fun and games until you start hearing *ROBOTICS ROBOTICS ROBOTICS*

[@chaosinc.382]

It's immensely satisfying watching Old Birds just kick the daylights outta other outdoor enemies. I wish there was a grab animation specifically for the medium fauna (dogs, hawks, mimics). I also slightly wish they could be killed, but only by other large enemies overwheming them or friendly fire. Either would be extremely unlikely.

[@chboo1897]

W video alter, now I can die knowing exactly what I did wrong and why it was 100% a skill issue, thanks!

[@bastienfelix4605]

Tf2 medic mains about to absolutely juke the old birds

[@Teismic]

Now imagine what if old bird used fucking giant minigun instead of rocket launcher 💀💀💀

[@TBV-M]

guttermen ultrakill

[@yoursonhaspassedaway3330]

heavy team fortress 2

[@Sm1l.e]

Gutterman

[@Chekmate-em3mc]

“GET BEHIND ME DOKTOR”

[@SpikesSTR]

@@Chekmate-em3mc”Ja wohl!”

[@FiveFiveSIXERR]

i love these videos, they are super helpful in allowing me to understand the game. but the best part of these videos it the half second clips of mimics dancing, i will always laugh at them. keep up the great work!!

[@GeneralCane]

It's funny to think how many things can kill you immediately in this game but a giant made of steel landing on you from 30 stories does up to 70 damage.

[@strangecolouredbird]

I love how every monster hqs such complicated roaming ai and then attack mode occurs and they go apesh!t

[@just-linx8271]

I love these things. Rocket jumping away with some smart movement and a dash of luck is a wonderful feeling.

[@Diamonddragon275]

It would be funny if when an earthworm swallows an old bird, you see it explode before it lands or the next time it resurfaces, and the old bird comes out unscathed

[@Ineophile]

old worm?

[@pumpkinpartysystem]

I think it'd be nice if there were maybe a 20% chance that, at the peak of its jump, the earth leviathan explodes and the old bird drops down like its falling out of the flying phase, but 80% of the time the old bird is still dead and the leviathan is fine

[@Diamonddragon275]

@@Ineophile You hath corrected mine sins, and I thank thee

[@Imirui]

1:04 I think they can spawn and just never activate. One time me and my friend waited until the ship left at 12:00 AM for an old bird near the ship to activate and it just never did.

[@PersonProbably]

When ai behind maskeds

[@sagey08]

ONG

[@twotruckslyrics]

fr

[@ameep168]

They really give off the vibe that they aren't a enemy, but instead a stage hazard

[@Biograft-from-phighting]

All greedy employees hearing the old birds outside holding the appy in hand.

[@nilaier1430]

3:20 lol what a moment to record Discord chat

[@sleepydafastboi]

they really farm discord messages ☠

[@twotruckslyrics]

LMAO

[@M4ST3RSW0RD]

Old birds are by far the scariest monster in my opinion

[@straferthesluggo3096]

I remember one time I was forced to stay in the office room on Artifice because one Old bird saw me and it was absolutely horrifying just hearing the cacophany of sounds behind the wall this was the first time I have been to Artifice and saw one btw because I got "lucky" on a challenge moon and had the opportunity to see them...what a first impression

[@ruub9971]

Theyre the most overwhelming maybe but scariest as in most difficult? Nah.

[@straferthesluggo3096]

@@ruub9971 scary doesn't need to be that they are the most difficult something could be scary but not difficult

[@Bupboy]

They're stressful to deal with for sure, but scary? Nah, I think their baby sounds are annoying tho, but mods can fix those

[@A.please_insert_witty_text.M]

It's really cool to see what people think the scariest monster is because they're all so different in how they try to scare you

[@huntersicarius7567]

Am I the only one who think that those things are the most terrifying mob in the game?

[@Yasin52.]

I think Forest Giants are more Terrifying

[@huntersicarius7567]

@@Yasin52. Yep, I understand that because being eaten alive is a nightmare. But I don't know why but big automatic machines always scared me for some reason

[@terdean6030]

4:41 hell nah, how much crying children are in your house?

[@Astrawboy_NameAlreadyInUse]

This is very in-depth.

[@SammyForReal]

Bro explains them as they were Elden Ring endbosses 💀 Grest job you guys, this was great and very helpful!

[@Im_Jeffery]

I also found a bug for the old bird. If it grabs someone while charging, it will permanently freeze it in place.

[@khaoulacb7931]

The fact that Old Birds (plural) are a 100% present on Artifice makes this video much more appreciated , thank you !!

[@naerolf09]

i miss the old intro :( it felt like a cool teaser and a sort of build up to what the monster could do

[@ozojoe101]

A baby crying being your personal favorite is crazy

[@ciswhitememe]

iPad kids are operating the old birds

[@Mernon4ym6661]

I remember playing with randoms on embrion when we unknowingly activated them all by taking the generator. We all tried to get back to the ship but the pure terror of having 3-4 old birds chasing us each was enough to scare the life out of the guy that DID make it back

[@TheRealSerpentMan]

Max spawn being 20 is actually crazy

[@KainCarthyst]

Crazy how easy these guys are compared to Forest Giants

[@cloudboy08]

Old birds are my favorite entity by far

[@eternalmiasma5586]

There’s something so terrifying about these things

[@burblesmurge]

babe wake up, new alter ego lethal company AI analysis video just dropped

[@orangejacket9735]

Now I know what to do when 1 old bird is chasing me now what do I do when they’re is 7 of them on me

[@alteregosocial]

alt+f4

[@orangejacket9735]

@@alteregosocial genius best plan ever never fails

[@lifefulnight3311]

The dogs howl in wait.

[@FritzTheGerman]

The Old Bird is a horrific war machine

[@DewMan31]

Imagine walking through the field to bring your haul to the ship, only for your teammate to pull an apparatus.

[@Midnight_sasha]

thank you for the info!

[@supertoastmaker]

these birds have ended too many runs, thank you

[@katzen8834]

can we get an ai behind masked coworker video?

[@LuminousLead]

I like the name "Old Birds"- it makes me think of the Chozo and their statues

[@isg4]

What's the song at the beginning????

[@ginospina9276]

I once got “saved” by a old bird after a mimic grabbed me on artifice before i got thrown into a giant by the same missile

[@brianadigwe8732]

Old Birds are hilarious 🤣

[@carleywindleaf315]

When my friends and i found one, they all crowded around it, it activated, they died instantly

[@M644theawesome]

It looks like one can be easy counter, the problem is that normally, at least from what I have seen from videos is that more then 3 art active at a time after a short time, so the more time you take the more will be active and the harder it will be to dodge all the missiles coming your way

[@FloopyFloop6530]

"And my favorite sound, a baby crying" 💀💀💀

[@EMan-xj5cz]

Now all it needs is to be able to punch things and send you flying across the map with each punch (laying mines too)

[@hellx141]

what's the music at the begining?

[@lanius1084]

this guy only had a few appearances in all of my sessions but evertime he appeared it was mayhem. Having rockets blasted at you and your mates by a giant robot isnt exactly what youre used to in a horror game.

[@KenanVonKaiser]

Old Bird New Tricks!

[@LipsPhips]

Salutations from Brasil! Thanks for another great video. Old Bird: "Novo comandante, Novo comandante, Novo comandante, Novo comandante"

[@skyy3994]

The giant worm is a earth leviathan which is very big similar to the movie version

[@Braydaloy]

this mans discord is the absolute GOAT

[@jabbathehutt2774]

Good to know the earthworm is still top of the food chain.

[@ARandomPersonFromTheNet]

*_Wait this isn't helldivers 2_*

[@cdstars]

"so as long as you're not directly in front of its right layeg..."

[@YoungDreTheSauceGod]

These are the most scary enemies for me.

[@DZ-DizzyDumm]

He doesn't have enough subscribers to earn any real money from these videos, which means he's actually just doing this for the love of the game. If you can't like for that, idk man just support him and his collaborators

[@I.A.W.D]

5:59 the grab attack, reminds me of the panzer from black ops 2

[@ThomasBlithe]

I dont even play this game, but this video's presentation is so good that I stuck around anyways

[@WhoPlaysTheFool]

something to note: in my recent testing just a week ago, it seemed that Old Birds could see my friends and I when flying even if we crouched

[@ksastrophy]

Can you explain, what does it mean for a monster to see player? I mean is the whole player's model visible for monsters, or can they only notice the point at which player's camera is located? I mean if it's possible that I do not see monster's "eyes" while hiding behind the tree but the monster still sees me?

[@theendofthestart8179]

ig idk if it counts as a death, but somehow on artifice one clipped through the floor and was gone forever.

[@janpayares3982]

what I actually love the most about the Old Birds is the Lore that came with them tho

[@cubee4108]

is that 4D-miner in the background

[@tutur8915]

I hope you will do one video on the new truck

[@Classic_Tomfoolery]

My friend took a toy robot and ran back to the ship. He said "Is this what you want?! Your son?!?" And then he got blasted by 4 missiles

[@MarioTehNewOne]

title made me think this was a conspiranoic video about birds being surveillance cameras... i gotta touch grass.

[@cursedhawkins1305]

Unless the wiki page is wrong about this Old Birds have a fixed number of them that can be spawned on any of the maps, they're available on its why on Embrion you can literally see 20 of them because their spawn chance is high enough to allow that many to spawn (not to mention the outdoor spawn pool allowing it as well)

[@Bendy_Friend]

TYSM for this guide waited it. Next nutcracker.

[@D-Coded-GandB]

old birds are invincible......unless it a earth worm

[@maxydoesthings]

Ima be brutally honest, these guys are hella easy to deal with, I lowkey just sprint and take cover (not even, just going behind a rock a little bit) whenever I’m out of energy they can’t do shit.

[@pumpkinpartysystem]

Yeah, they're only a threat late at night or post-apparatus pull when there's a lot of them active, or if there's a heavily controlling enemy like forest keepers or eyeless dogs you have to play around simultaneously. If there's just a couple they're not usually that big a deal.

[@maxydoesthings]

@@pumpkinpartysystem oh hell nah I get ptsd from that shit

[@eclips_total2215]

I miss the clips you used in the begining encoutering the entities