The AI Behind Forest Keepers

[@alteregosocial]

REMEMBER: If your suspicion meter is 1 or higher, the giant will chase you AS SOON as he sees you.

[@Username_broken]

Your*

[@JusticeMarley-j5u]

Will you please explain the Fear/Insanity mechanic next? I can't really tell how it affects gameplay outside of HUD ambience.

[@alteregosocial]

@@JusticeMarley-j5uYES! It will not be next, it will be right before ghost girl which is sometime in the near future

[@PvZGardenWarfare2fan]

​@@alteregosocialWhat makes a giant stop and stare at you at certain ranges and what makes his vison pass right by you (e.g. I saw in the video one point he stopped lokking forwards and looked directly at you and other times he glanced pass?) also does crouch walking count as movement?

[@-.CosmicCode.-]

@@alteregosocialin that same video could you also explain adrenaline if you haven’t

[@plattbagarn]

Phase 1: Roaming right on top of you. Phase 2: See you through walls. Phase 3: Camping the ship.

[@yuu3910]

Phase 1 confirmed. That shi roaming right on top of fire exit on Rend, where only 1 way to go up.

[@alteregosocial]

🤣🤣🤣

[@toneon4289]

@@yuu3910 I dont know why but for some reason if they spawn on titan they could literally walk on stairs, like spawning there. It's so damn weird.

[@Mincatsito]

​@@toneon4289 I remember a giant spawning IN FRONT of Titan's 2 entrances.

[@toneon4289]

@@Mincatsito I had a case when an old bird spawned blocking the main entrance

[@tomgoa5678]

Phase 1:Camp the ship Phase 2:Camp the ship Phase 3:Camp the ship

[@Insertnamehere684]

The ai: camp the ship

[@viceversaanimates7398]

actually, they were just near the ship for the example. 🤓☝

[@Yiffbait]

If you kill a giant, be sure to move out of it's way when it dies, think of its corpse as a giant extension ladder, we found it out hilariously thr hard way.

[@MothGirlHina]

That's actually so funny I'm gonna have to do that sometime

[@Dummydude]

The code confirms that this is true. If you're underneath the giant when it dies, you'll die too. When scanning the body, the cause of death will be "Gravity".

[@MothGirlHina]

@@Dummydude Yeah it happened to me yesterday by accident as I was testing how easy it is to kill a Giant at the ship door

[@BeanMau]

Player 1: WE KILLED THE FOREST KEEPER! Player 2: (Dead) Player 3: (Dead) Player 4: … Player 4: But at what cost…

[@sammak1862]

gamer ori real?

[@spectrumAYE]

I really hate how they instantly lock on to you after they see you once.

[@4F3iTeD]

Now you become bait for your teammates.

[@jacksmix7123]

You are being promoted to a Cracker snack

[@TheEternal1ty]

when you said this that it locks onto player and raising its awareness or smth, i realized that was the case. apparently, this makes sense for a fucking infant.

[@getthedunkon9347]

@@TheEternal1ty It see toy. Toy disappear. Keeper sad. Keeper see toy again. Get It Before disappear. Grab Toy. Keeper Happy. Eat Toy.

[@JB-j8v]

it makes sense that they'd be looking out for you now that they know you exist and would now react faster after seeing you

[@ayeemee9682]

*You know it’s serious when bro pulls out the desmos graphing calculator 😭😭*

[@adicsbtw]

True

[@FeDDoSoff]

I loved that illustration. C/C++ devs are superior

[@adicsbtw]

@@FeDDoSoff Can confirm, the graph used was by our resident C/x86 assembly dev

[@lordmarshmal_0643]

The fact that a giant's suspicion only raises for the player it's focused on reminds me of its described "child-like behavior"

[@gungy_vt]

Giants dying by earthworm is nice, but death by random lightning is my favorite.

[@Kiki-w4p3u]

it actually saved me. I was running away from one and It fucking died and I looked back and it was dead and now I finally understand what the fuck killed it

[@FG011]

I have just witnessed my friend today kill both an eyeless dog and a giant who were camping main by simply going out, dropping a bell, going back in and waiting a few seconds until lightning struck them both

[@kiryukazuma8089]

We need a super rare chance of a giant being able to suplex the worm attacking it

[@hat6885]

I am the Lorax, you cut down the trees, I break your knees

[@santa_with_a_gun]

i am the giant, i speak for the trees, if you cut them down, i'll eat your knees

[@raptorrise8537]

saying this with a smirk hat kid profile pic, is the icing on the cake. :D

[@hat6885]

@ I was eating Christmas cake as I saw this comment

[@Noobworries]

boy i see another one of those guys he gonna turn into a forest sleeper

[@alteregosocial]

lmao 🤣🤣🤣

[@SimplyCheesy]

w pfp

[@broduffusman4102]

That intro of the giant climbing out of the ground was genius

[@alteregosocial]

shoutout to @adi

[@Ryan41707]

...how, it's just their spawn animation

[@Content_Deleted]

@@Ryan41707Perhaps the better word woulda been "clever", but anyway

[@broduffusman4102]

@ryanorth2252 The spawn animation is being used as an intro, climbing out of the ground to introduce the giant

[@miguelaguilar751]

adi has been on point holy shit 😂​@@alteregosocial

[@Fract4l]

In-game representation: Phase 1: "uuuhhhh I think I hear the giant" Phase 2: "I'm dead I'm dead oh crap I'm so done" / "AAAAAAAAAAA" Phase 3: " *Starts the ship* "

[@sneakydaddyman9882]

Hazard level b is crazy😭😭

[@getthedunkon9347]

I mean to be fair, it dies to half the outside mobs.

[@BluestTable]

Man one time i saw a forest keeper, ran for cover and look back to see him already sprawled out on the floor covered in baboons 😂😭

[@milobytz]

I mean, considering the danger and complexity of other creatures, B is pretty reasonable. Just crouch and don't get seen. Lol

[@11TheSilly11]

Its their danger level not their power level, brackens are much weaker but arguably more dangerous since theyre immensely more intelligent than giants

[@Bone_Incidents]

When making ai do you A) Code a very complex system involving behavior and weather statistics B) They follow balls I put around on the map

[@alfonshedstrom9859]

Thats what most game AI designers will tell you. If you make an AI too smart, it becomes unpredictable and not fun... so they often make them dumb on purpose to keep it feeling like a game

[@samuelbarros1563]

@@alfonshedstrom9859 it is not dumb just because the codes are simple

[@Bone_Incidents]

@@samuelbarros1563 No no no, what they mean is if you make an AI that will try to do the best things possible in a scenario, it will feel like you’re playing chess against a bot. Videogames are meant to be pseudo realistic, not fully. Although I would understand if the AI went with difficulty scaling where on the hardest difficulty the bots are just insane.

[@Bone_Incidents]

@@alfonshedstrom9859 I understand. Videogames are meant to be fun and having to deal with AI that you can’t accurately predict isn’t fun.

[@sakura368]

the orbs are easier, and the orbs mean they search EVERYWHERE once, then reset and search everywhere again

[@avena7506]

These comprehensive AI breakdown offer a side of knowledge that some of the best guide videos on the Lethal Company side of youtube just don't, combining these with Bread's videos is knowledge that has saved me multiple times and also helped me ease my friends nerves in difficult situations. You deserve all the traction you're getting from this please keep growing!

[@-AGGRESIVEPEANUT-]

Cant wait for the old bird video 👹👹👹

[@spadok0]

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[@IEatDirt-h3y]

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[@BudgetGamingEnthusiast1]

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[@RiccardoBernardi-h7v]

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[@TBNRanimations0511]

I once had an INTENSE forest keeper encounter. I was on march and I was heading back to the ship, but as I’m walking, I hear the giant. I got scared but remembered that standing behind anything that can fully cover ur body will prevent u from being spotted. so as I watched the giant roam the forest, I was heading from tree to tree. And eventually I made it to the ship without being spotted. when I told my teammate about it, he said he was watching me the entire time, he also told me good job. Big brain move I made to avoid the giant. The encounter was way more intense than what I just said

[@ARStudios2000]

You Metal Geared him

[@Sasha11711]

6:32 I was once caught by a giant near the house on Vow, and then a group of Baboon Hawks rescued me by killing the giant and putting me on the roof of the building. Then, they were eaten by a group of Eyeless Dogs.

[@CibuYT]

you forgot to add that old birds can easily kill giants ! this is very useful on artifice

[@obamahostile4073]

NGL these enemies AI breakdowns are so interesting, thank you chief

[@skaladdy1164]

You forgot to mention you can kill giants pretty easily with thunder if you have a conductive item. A key is great because you can wait until the key is about to go off. Get the aggro of the forest keeper and kill him. This is really helpful for stopping the giant from camping your ship.

[@brinoh]

2:34 the bereal sound LMAOO

[@joeysparacio5519]

I literally thought it was time to be real 😭

[@nickkrueger585]

2:27 wondering if he did his be real in that moment

[@SpinIfTeam]

I thought it was bereal time

[@scp-049]

I literally checked my be real when i heard it lol

[@Its_Lunas_dream]

2:28 The BeReal sound made me so paranoid. I was sure, it was my BeReal notification😂

[@AZR43L_YT]

great stuff man. These videos are at a professional level 👍

[@cowuwu1]

Don’t forget the old birds can also kill a giant. Also theres 2 different ambient sounds for when the giant spots you and one for when it chases you so you can tell which one is which

[@Notllamalord]

I love watching these because I make games in Unity and I can imagine exactly how the dev programmed these

[@Ferox115]

I am loving KZbin’s algorithm right now, really enjoying these videos!

[@jonnyw819]

2:28 bro gotta do his bereal

[@SAmaryllis]

The graph was well-done, kudos to the mathematician for putting it together :)

[@Avabees]

Was waiting for this one in particular!

[@hypnivaria]

it's cool to see the production value increase on each new upload :]

[@just.Harley]

this is a wonderful video, big fan of adding extra information at the end i love the niche stuff

[@g1ngrbread]

I absolutely LOVE these videos, and they're helpful too! keep it up man

[@WretchedParty76]

Hazard level: infinity -1

[@Zbpskals]

I been waiting for this forever oml

[@xHaii]

Huge thanks for making all these guides, keep it up!

[@Berzikov]

I absolutely love these Lethal Conpany videos, keep it up!

[@Nesw10]

Man I can’t believe how helpful and in depth these are, Thanks 🙏🏽

[@TheSomeRando]

Congrats on 30k!

[@dimthegreat5398]

Hold on bro got animation now?! Amen. Keep it up lad! Can't wait to see the Old Bird analysis

[@porygon1889]

this is so cool i hope you keep making more videos on the ais

[@momosity.]

Absolutely love the suspicion meter explanation that was beautiful

[@galacta7300]

EXCELLENT work dude. Curious to see a Nutcracker video!

[@Neitheradentist]

Thank you for filling us with *_quality_* content alteregosocial

[@Pureman-ht5yk]

Adi did truly help you a lot man

[@lunarlionlilith]

I love the way you edit these btw

[@hambeargurfan]

my love i’ve been waiting for your next post. i’m so glad you finally posted again darling

[@kiwiman096]

Hazard level: ∞ Once spotting a player, the Forest Keeper DEMOLISHES HIM NO MATTER WHAT

[@Night_Hawk_475]

Amazing! And so details on this one! I have no extra questions this time, ahhaah. Thank you so much for your effort on this research and on sharing it all with us in such an informative way

[@brentandes4317]

2:27 the bereal notification made check my phone 😂

[@derfnaf_master8819]

congrats on the 30k, you really deserve it

[@Lezen74]

I love these edits bro

[@titan1070]

man this youtube channel is awesome, cant wait till it gets to 100k subs

[@bananaspice1967]

Shoutout to Adi for all the help with the visuals. Wouldn't have these cool vids without her :) And ofc, shoutout to you for making the videos in the first place.

[@jettxym]

I love ur vids! Helps me understand them alot better.

[@CibuYT]

such a cool video ! very interesting, very informative :) now I wonder if an optimised strat would be to crouch far away from a giant making sure he can still see you and waiting until he runs at you, that way everyone else has a decreased suspicion meter

[@Earf1000]

I never thought I’d see Desmos in a lethal company entity AI video!

[@TheCrazyOne2]

Once you have all the “The AI behind _____”, you should compile them into one huge compilation, I like to put this on in the background so having a huge compilation would be appreciated

[@cycoMSM]

Create a playlist Why the fuck did this get likes

[@TheCrazyOne2]

@@cycoMSM why didn’t I think of this 😅

[@alteregosocial]

yes! i have all my AI videos on a playlist!

[@cycoMSM]

@@TheCrazyOne2 lmao

[@TheCrazyOne2]

@@cycoMSM i may be stupid

[@robinemblem9488]

Looking forward to watching your streams, great video as always

[@rconmaster]

congrats on 30k :D i remember when you still had less than a thousand!

[@anton9270]

your the best thc for these vids man

[@Jackspladt]

“Hazard level: B” my ass this things a menace

[@firekex]

Giants can also be killed by baboon hawks, old bird, and lightning if you have a spare key to put in the entrence of the ship on stormy

[@inordirectional]

nicely done graph by echoprograms!

[@LuminLeveret]

I love you for making these videos

[@mrvoidschannel359]

I love these videos. I want to be a game developer myself and this is entertaining and informative

[@prstechnic]

We love the desmos graphing calculator 🔥

[@Quartz5005]

Damn, Adi doing some good work for the info.

[@professorgrimm4602]

The leviathan eating the Forest Keeper: "There's always a bigger fish"

[@vicid1415]

2:25 be real notification lol

[@anodomaniD]

I heard that too and it got me

[@the_thicc_kobudai1606]

@@anodomaniD same

[@samuraidev9312]

Scared me so bad

[@vicid1415]

@@anodomaniD i checked my phone lol

[@nuckchorris1396]

I love how us gamers/nerds hate school until we find practical applications for math and science inside of games 💀💀💀😂😂

[@TheSen12342]

FINALY NEW UPLOAD

[@WhiteNightLobcorp]

"oh yeah its 6 so forest giant prob gonna be ou-" The hidden forest giant stand still right behind bro:

[@dominic85]

ur bereal notif going off mid video jumpscared me

[@dennispulles]

My man got that bereal notification at 2:28 haha

[@bonesSOT]

I love you for this dawg subbed fs

[@urbestbud8850]

congrats on 30k

[@DragonuFear]

You forgot to mention lightning can also cause burning. And technically a jetpack explosion but thats not ideal. You can bait a giant over a sparking item and sometimes random lightning can result in randomly dead giants.

[@Clemente-0]

this week i was playing with my friends and suddenly 3 giants spawned at the same time, never saw this happening (it was adamance at 3:00PM) also great guide as always

[@hezuka705]

I always thought the phase 4 is tricking you like "I definitely can't see you" while it looks at you for a second looks forward again then starts chasing you.

[@daydreamer9986]

I had two blind dogs after me and happened to run into a giant instanly grabbing me. However, at that exact moment it grabbed me the two dogs simultaneously did that open mouth dive attack hitting the giant instead, killing it instantly while dropping me in the process while I quietly making my way back into the ship.

[@tortilla-are-yummy]

NO WAY i have these dudes in my garden

[@Noobworries]

do you have a radar booster in your garden

[@Gubacs_Mester]

i got jumpscared by the bereal notification

[@NimajStar]

hahahaha the BeReal notification at 2:27

[@Skammye]

Very interesting to watch, ty

[@Knightly_Noob]

I really like even the most basic enemy like a bunker spider has a decent AI. it nests. It waits. It catches and it munches.

[@Juicy-America]

These are one of the only enemies that feels just a little OP

[@xtrem5428]

The easter egg burn is a nice touch.

[@spyonmebaby]

2:27 lol the bereal notification

[@egg-scp-secret-lab]

Amazing video

[@Jack-k8d6l]

Love your vids❤

[@RawrFoxington]

I don't know how to explain what happened, but one time I was playing with a few friends (no mods) on March and I was getting chased by a giant while everyone was on the ship. We didn't have a teleporter, so I was 99% sure I was going to die because the giant aggro'd me as soon as I walked out the facility. This may have been changed since it happened, as it was a while ago, but I'm fairly certain the giant's legs don't/didn't initiate the grab animation, because I survived by running into the giant's legs and circling him while regenerating my stamina, and then running until I was out and repeating the process until I could run under the ship. It was probably the coolest thing I've ever done in gaming, and I didn't record it, so rip. It worked several times as I had to repeat the circling/running process about 3 or 4 times to make it back to the ship, but I never re-attempted it because it was scary :(

[@entropy-cat]

Awesome video! Just wish I knew what this game was. My guess is either Helldivers or Lethal Company. Those are popular nowadays.

[@mrult28]

You guessed it, Lethal Company

[@MakutaBrainhax]

AN ADDITION! :if you stand behind or too close to the sides of the giant when it falls on death, his body will crush you.

[@szaizluv_szaizlyf]

i love this dude

[@traffic9518]

I remember hearing somewhere that if they eat someone they will release a gas that can slow down other teammates but I can’t find where I saw it

[@forbidenpupetry]

YOU should make a mod that combines all the stuff you have so far to use to test AI

[@LiIChrisChavez]

Keep making more lethal company videos, I subbed

[@AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA462]

It only takes two shotgun blasts to kill a giant