The Airgun Show - squirrel and rat hunting with the new Brocock BRK Ghost, PLUS a full rifle review

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Brocock has a new rifle and we’re the first to bring it to you. Rich Saunders puts the BRK Ghost through its paces as he sets out to control daytime squirrels and night time rats on his chicken farm permission.
Later in the programme, and after plenty of action down on the farm, Rich takes a closer look at Brocock’s new bullpup with a full review and accuracy test.
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[@reservedone1791]

Credit where it's due. Mat is a tough act to follow but this bloke has made a pretty good fist of it. Not easy standing up and presenting to tens of thousands of armchair experts, many of whom like to think they could do better but have never had the guts to try. Keep up the good work.

[@bigz1296]

Check out his other channel ‘Alpha Militaria’ Rich is a leading light in this game in my eyes 👍

[@howardvarley8795]

@@bigz1296 Huffffff.. see my earlier post.

[@richsaunders6515]

Thanks very much. Glad you enjoyed it.

[@richsaunders6515]

@@howardvarley8795 See mine Howard. I hope you get in touch.

[@j.verfaillie5742]

Nice that he said goodbye in person. I found him especially proficient and well-mannered. This restart is certainly hopeful for the future.

[@howardvarley8795]

The Replys arent working!!

[@Shorts-qy5no]

Mat was great and I am sorry to see him go but I have also enjoyed your contributions to the airgun show in the past and follow your own channel and I am pleased you are the replacement as you also have a very good presentation style.

[@richsaunders6515]

Thanks very much. Very kind of you to say.

[@johnmorley80]

Good to see more context of where you are shooting and moving around the permission rather than just static shots. Aerial shots help set the scene. Good work Rich and Kev.

[@chopperhehehe]

john I second your comment 👍👍👍😜🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🦄🦕😁✌️🤞

[@richsaunders6515]

Thanks very much John...

[@grahamedwards9920]

I’m a Brocock fan and I’m really like the look of this rifle as a replacement for my ageing Wildcat FAC. I’ve got the Ranger xr and that’s proved to be cracking little rifle. I love the magazine and I’ve seen elsewhere how you can load 2 into the breech so as one empties you can slide the other across. Brocock seem the sensible 1/2 of the Daystate partnership now while Daystate have adopted a “law of diminishing returns” philosophy- you pay more and more for less and less - imho. Pleased to see this guy taking over - his reviews are more thorough than Matts and I have been watching both for as long as they’ve been around - they are both the respectable face of air gunning that we want the rest of the world to see.

[@fatbloke2285]

A very nice rifle. Well demonstrated yet again Richard.

[@justingreen9262]

Great video Richard.Although it’s sad to see Mat go,I’m glad a gentleman of your calibre has stepped into his shoes.Your videos have always been a joy to watch.Keep up the great work Richard and Atvb👍🏻👍🏻😀

[@richsaunders6515]

Thanks Justin. I'll do my best...

[@eddiecahall3824]

Nice! Love these low power videos. So accurate and not waisteful. I'm in USA recently turned all power down and shoot just like this! Absolutely love it! But these guys make it look so easy. I do have the new BRK Ghost in magnum .22. Stunner! Hey sta slingin that sweet air rifle lead! Ed da pro snippin air man💥💪😱😎

[@pooselpoosel]

Bought a ghost yesterday, can't wait to trial it out 😊 thanks for the video

[@regsparkes6507]

Good to see you here Richard, you've always provided great videos on your own channel, so I know I'll be just as pleased with whatever you bring to this 'new post' that Mat has thrust you into. Brocock rifles have always been good shooters, and this 'Ghost' proves this. Nice shooting here this time 'round. I'll be looking forward to seeing you here in 2 weeks time. Best wishes to you on theairgunshow. Thumbs up!

[@richsaunders6515]

Hi Reg. Thanks very much. Not a regular gig though...

[@regsparkes6507]

@@richsaunders6515 Oh well then, I enjoyed this edition, so time will tell how this show proceeds in the future. I do have a sub. to Alpha Militaria! As they say, interesting times ahead. :)

[@richardfletcher4704]

Can’t believe Matt Manning has gone! What a gent! That brocock ghost is stunning, a real competitor to the FX/Delta. Just needs a bigger mag and a 2nd regulator.

[@lizchatfield692]

What is Matt doing now ,why has he gone.

[@danielreynolds1211]

I really wish they were more reviews like this. So in depth and out in the field too. Safe to say I'm going to be 1300 quid lighter soon.

[@gallopingg1]

GREAT VID NICE GUN/THE GHOST, AN ADJUSTABLE CHEEK PIECE WOULD BE REALLY HELPFULL, THAT WAY THE GUN WUOLD FIT MORE PEOPLE, IN A MORE PROSICED WAY!!

[@williamwilson2624]

Nice job Richard and Kev. Great hunting content and wonderful review. I will be looking forward to seeing more of you in the coming weeks.

[@richsaunders6515]

Thanks very much William.

[@684ih4]

Excellent!. How refreshing to see a group right in the bullseye, so much more satisfying to see than a perfect group left and low ect

[@thekitowl]

Richard, loved your contributions in the past & can’t think of a better presenter for the show.

[@richsaunders6515]

Very kind. Thanks very much...

[@iguanaSnipers]

I get my Ghost on the 19th! I can't wait to slap a few iguanas here in Florida with it! Nice shooting!🦎🔫🤗♥️

[@j.verfaillie5742]

As a fan of your channel hopefully before the end of the year a shoot with the scope cam in combination with the excellent camera work of Jermaine.

[@richsaunders6515]

Looking forward to seeing the vids!

[@paulfarleigh1973]

Oh dear, I did like Matt...Big shoes to fill. All the best with your new ventures..

[@richsaunders6515]

I only have size 9s...Thanks very much.

[@paulfarleigh1973]

@@richsaunders6515 a fine job you're doing too...

[@ancupola1994]

BEST WISHES TO MAT¬ He came over as professional and very personable too. All the best to Richard

[@Andy-ow2cx]

Hi Richard, im so glad you're the backup plan after Matt. I'm sure you will just carry on as you are which is all good as far as I'm concerned. Keep that great content coming.

[@richsaunders6515]

Thanks Andy. Not a regular gig though. Too much like hard work!

[@Andy-ow2cx]

Is this real? And if so, how do I claim my prize?

[@richsaunders6515]

@@Andy-ow2cx No Andy. It's a scam of some kind. Authorities have been notified. Please don't fall for it...

[@Andy-ow2cx]

Cheers Richard, I thought as much 👍

[@BionicRusty]

⛔️ Please all, be careful of the scam messages saying that you’re a winner. You won’t be if you send a message to them. Great video, Rich and Kev. Top shooting. 👏👏👏 The BRK Ghost looks amazing. It’s proportions are spot on. I could be looking at my next rifle with that one. 👍

[@richsaunders6515]

Thanks very much.

[@richt1838]

Well done Rich, a brilliant review of the Ghost, and a more than worthy replacement for Matt.

[@richsaunders6515]

Thanks very much Rich, very kind of you.

[@moonbear1st]

matt was a bit of an icon that going to take some beating..

[@johnbankston3967]

Hi Richard, loved your intro, it made me smile. There's only one Mat, but I really enjoy your content as well. Best Wishes, John

[@richsaunders6515]

Thanks John. Thought I'd say it before someone else did!

[@nbowie698]

Great review. That is my next rifle. Thanks Richard 👍

[@martinsimmons4010]

Another clearly delivered video, thank you Richard. What was the silencer that you used on the BKR Ghost?

[@richsaunders6515]

Thanks Martin. The silencer is a 0db, the shorter of the two models.

[@djeq721]

Bring Matt back, he was The Airgun Show.

[@robboaks3040]

Well done Rich that was an excellent episode all round, Nice one. 👍

[@richsaunders6515]

Thank you Robb.

[@neilfordham5790]

I saw Matt has moved but I didn’t realise he had left the show. Welcome Richard, I am sure you will continue to do a great job.

[@SlimRyan2009]

Well done sir great video

[@petemulhearn7787]

Hard to believe that such an expensive new gun has a cocking lever that obstructs the safety. Was it designed by a committee or cobbled together from unwanted Daystate parts? Apart from that nice review 👍

[@fatphunker]

I heard Daystate put there shit barrel on the Brocock guns so yes a Daystate parts bin special

[@fatphunker]

@Broad Side lol No Rti Arms and a kalibrgun kricket 😉🤣

[@fatphunker]

@Broad Side the reason I still have a cricket after 8 years is that it's never gone wrong ever if it's not the latest gun and as for that Brocock I see they still giving you spare breech seals as they have a tendency to fire them out if you dry fire it accidentally there conpato was doing that years ago bag of shit

[@achetlkr7206]

Mat, we'll be missing you. Richard I like the way u explain things, just like a good teacher. I'm from India, waiting for the next. Thanks.

[@richsaunders6515]

Thanks very much.

[@Stevemacleod58]

That's some mighty great shooting mate having to go around the chicken wire to be spot on.

[@jordansanderson1246]

Great video Richard be looking forward for the next one the Brocock ghost looks a cracking little rifle and would go great to the collection I got a HW110 grey laminate witch I love and adore my go too rifle for all pest control and very little target work but yeah keep up the good work mate👍

[@kevinashford1219]

And good luck to him coz they are clearly years ahead of the daystate n brockocks this show always try to promote,, along with the MTC scopes etc

[@kevb9319]

Thx Rich, nice review as always.

[@rayhart7753]

Definitely hear that hammer bounce. Stunning rifle though. 👌

[@brynybach7741]

Well I can't comment on what other people have said here as this is new to me but I really enjoyed the video especially the two part theme. It certainly looks like a killer of a rifle. Worth a punt I think but from what I have learned, it always seems to pay to wait for the MKll version. Keep up the good work, I at least enjoy you other channel as well 👍

[@richsaunders6515]

Thanks very much...

[@brynybach7741]

Hi Richard, tried texting the number given but it says it's not recognised!

[@richsaunders6515]

@@brynybach7741 Unfortunately its spam. The messages have been removed now...

[@paulfoster543]

Thanks Rich nice review

[@leemadden3able]

Well done Richard great show you also come across very well keep it up mate 👍👍👍👍

[@richsaunders6515]

Thanks very much Lee.

[@dyltwinful]

To be fair, like most have pointed out.. mat is going to be a hard man to replace... but to be fair there couldn't be a better person to replace him. Keep the good footage coming 👌👍

[@richsaunders6515]

Very kind Dylan. Thank you.

[@henrymoreland8719]

Thanks Richard.

[@richsaunders6515]

Thanks for watching Henry...

[@chopperhehehe]

cracking stuff nice gun didn't like the noise when fired but a minor thing cracking show will deffo still be following the show . I personally thought great show can't wait for next 👍👍👍😜🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🦄🦕😁✌️🤞

[@richsaunders6515]

Thanks very much. Glad you enjoyed it.

[@WALT3rd]

sad to see matt go. how can we follow him in future endeavors? where has he gone? class act!

[@janrobertbos]

..nice show, won`t forget Matt though; however, I like this guy too!!! Greetz from the Netherlands!!!

[@richsaunders6515]

Thanks very much Jan.

[@janrobertbos]

@@richsaunders6515 you`re very welcome; doing a very good job!!!

[@wwelc01]

Enjoyed very much. What do you do with all the dead rats and other vermin? Are there protocols to follow for disposing of them like incineration or burying them at a minimum depth. This information does not seem to be covered in such videos so it may be of benefit to other viewers also. Thank you for making these videos - it is good to see people enjoying the outdoors.

[@richsaunders6515]

Hi. All the rats on this permission go into a farm incinerator. Thanks for watching.

[@FarmPestManagementAirgun]

Sad to hear and see that Mat has moved on...But Richard, I have enjoyed your videos and contributions to the Airgun Show from time to time, and I wish you all the best in the coming years mate! Cheers, Mark. KZbin CHANNEL: Farm Pest Management-Airgun

[@richsaunders6515]

Thanks very much Mark - much appreciated. Just to let you know though, I'm not taking over from Mat full time!

[@phoenixsounddesign6310]

@@richsaunders6515 Ohh, okay...Well have fun in the meantime mate, doing what you do best! Cheers, Mark. KZbin CHANNEL: Farm Pest Management-Airgun

[@happyhourharry6372]

Love your presentation regards paul

[@richsaunders6515]

Thank you Paul. And thanks for watching.

[@lyndenhodder5655]

Blimey, Mat Manning's let himself go, hehe love it Richard, welcome to the Airgun Show, although you're no stranger to it, and I do watch Alpha Militaria as well, good luck with this, and all the best to Mat, and look forward to a fortnights time.

[@richsaunders6515]

🤣I just got in there first! Thanks for watching...

[@neildavis9243]

Great vid and nice rifle

[@muchasgracias6976]

I will miss Matt as he was a nice guy and good presenter. However with Rich taking over I think the channel is in safe hands.

[@medwynvermin8772]

Might be a great gun when it works. If however you get a problem with it the neither you nor the dealer will get any help from the ghosts in the customer service dept. Sorry I would love to support British but I have 1st hand experience of even the 'dealer only' number just ringing out.

[@coryb6722]

ive never had an issue with brocock customer service

[@roberthowe2910]

Classic line..u right thou.....

[@meatballs9453]

Why does the gun make a weird fart noise when you fire it?

[@richsaunders6515]

What makes you think that was the gun 😆? It seems to be a peculiarity of the Delta Wolf / Ghost chassis.

[@BRKBrocock]

@@richsaunders6515 i think it is the huma reg refilling which is being amplified in the alloy chasis, add to that microphone placement which is usually close to the reg - and that is what you hear

[@richsaunders6515]

@@BRKBrocock Thanks very much for clarifying.

[@nigeljones7561]

Good luck with your adventure but it's a tough act to follow. I'll watch both shows as i respect fellow shooting friends as i used to be in the airgun media with airgun World Everyday Hunter Nige Jones I'm free to writing for a new venture myself.

[@alanmullock381]

Good review Richard! 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@richsaunders6515]

Cheers Alan...

[@alanmullock381]

@@richsaunders6515 welcome Richard!👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@mikem201]

Good job on the hunt and review, a worthy replacement for Mat.

[@richsaunders6515]

Too kind Mike...but thanks!

[@Bean-or1mv]

great first show with you mate, i do find it funny how every company is copying the fx impact style.... i'll stick with the original

[@Bean-or1mv]

@Broad Side thats fair but unlike daystate i'll get a reply if i need help with warranty, plus FX has just about the most aftermarket parts and as someone who likes to tinker its a no brainer.

[@Bean-or1mv]

@Broad Side also its FX that's made it so popular and arguably done it the best. also how easy there are to change calibre and work on i get people don't like them that's ok we aren't all supposed to have the same taste but from a technical standpoint they are pretty damn good.

[@Bean-or1mv]

@Broad Side im not looking to trash daystate all together up until i got an FX i had always wanted the original air wolf or air ranger and recently looked into the new revere safari edition (beautiful looking rifle) i'll admit i have a soft spot for FX but im well aware they have faults my mk 2 wildcat was a nightmare and ended up with me getting rid. i believe my original comment may have been a little brash but it does seem that guns remarkably similar to the impact are getting pumped out at a crazy rate these last few years.

[@Bean-or1mv]

@Broad Side i don't mean just the bullpup design obviously that's been around many years.

[@RussDouglas222]

Great video Richard, very nicely filmed (bar the slightly blurry scope-cam footage) and edited, and a nice rifle review. 👍 Two questions if I may re the Brocock BRK Ghost... 1. The micro power adjustment wheel seems to spin fairly freely and that's one complaint I have with my FX Impact M3, so can you tell me if (like the M3) the adjuster MUST NOT be rotated while the rifle's cocked, to avoid damage / voiding the warranty? 2. The long dovetail rail the raiser rail-cum carry handle runs along on the top edge of the action, is this a standard 11mm (or 13mm) dovetail rail? The reason I ask is if I wanted to mount my Pard008S-LRF I'd probably prefer to mount it via the EagleVisionCam adjustable mount, but I'd want to remove the raiser rail first to avoid the scope being too high; is this possible or is it a proprietary Brocock rail? All the best and good luck with your reviews and videos, cheers. Russ

[@richsaunders6515]

Hi Russ. The wheel moves easily but with defined clicks - I doubt it will spin freely and you're right, Brocock recommend you don't rotate it once cocked. The rail underneath is a regular 11/12mm rail.

[@RussDouglas222]

@@richsaunders6515 Nice one, thanks for replying and I hope hope you're well? Cheers. Russ

[@richsaunders6515]

@@RussDouglas222 Hi Russ. Yes, all good thanks. Busy with lots of writing. But you know how that goes! How are things with you?

[@RussDouglas222]

@@richsaunders6515 Keeps you out of travel, I have more editing to do and a few more reviews to write/record, but always room for more. Cheers. R

[@stephen5019]

Hi wot air pressure would you fill up too in the ghost. 250 bar or 200 as I’ve been told both air pressure,s. thank you

[@Fubar684]

Good review. At what distance we’re you serving up lead to the squirrels?

[@frankfanelli6116]

For those who would like to follow Mat Manning , He’s on a new channel called “Shooting & Country TV”. Very similar to the Airgun Show of Old!

[@keithscott676]

It's an FX maverick re branded

[@Hubbahubba40]

Did you agree to do this review on the ghost so you could say that punch line. Great review 👏

[@richsaunders6515]

It took me days to come up with it 😆

[@ezrabrook3993]

The Ghost or the Krait 🤔 🎯🐴❤️🤠🇨🇱👍🏻✌🏻

[@SPC234]

Where’s Matt gone too ?

[@RussDouglas222]

Airgun World magazine / the Shooting and Country TV KZbin channel. R

[@wudgetowers9003]

very good and informative thank you. BUT it would have been nice to see the target that was being shot.

[@richsaunders6515]

Thanks very much, and you're very welcome. What targets did you want to see? The squirrels were a bit blurry (sorry about that - still getting used to the GoPro!), but everything I pointed at and shot was recorded?

[@wudgetowers9003]

Sorry I should have made myself clear. The target that was set at 30 yards for the ghost test shots. Yes of course the squirrel shots were excellent. Just wanted to see the grouping.

[@wudgetowers9003]

Must have missed the paper target I'll watch again.

[@richsaunders6515]

@@wudgetowers9003 No worries. I think it's at 26:33. Thanks for watching.

[@paulcarruthers1314]

What was the after market you mentioned, BRS? didn’t quite catch it, thanks. Good review.

[@richsaunders6515]

Hi Paul. Thanks very much. PRS - Precision Rifle Systems.

[@allanprice9957]

Where is mat gone to and why?

[@wayneemmerson2713]

Hi wich length silencer do you have on 4.5" or 6.5" thanks

[@richsaunders6515]

Hi Wayne. Its the 110mm version.

[@paulmahy]

I find sitting in my car works... Good show, well presented. Thankyou

[@richsaunders6515]

Thanks Paul. It can be comfy too! I probably shoot as much from/on my truck as I do from a hide. Thanks for watching.

[@dr.waelhamed-alula6111]

What is this Rifle Scope?

[@richsaunders6515]

An MTC Cobra F1 in the hunting segment and an MTC Copperhead in the review.

[@jourdaiinn]

What’s the best way to find and approach a farmer for permission to hunt on their land?

[@richsaunders6515]

Hi. This might help: kzbin.info/www/bejne/b5mbhqCJq8-AorM

[@roberthowe2910]

How many shots u getting in this rifle..cheers

[@richsaunders6515]

Brocock states around 320 for the 300cc bottle and 450 for the 480cc.

[@roberthowe2910]

@@richsaunders6515 cheers rich...looks a well made rifle...

[@roberthowe2910]

@@richsaunders6515 is th a t in .177.or .22

[@stuartburgon5583]

Good video as usual Richard could you tell me what mod is on the ghost .👍🏻

[@richsaunders6515]

Thanks Stuart. It's a 0db.

[@stuartburgon5583]

@@richsaunders6515 thanks for the reply Richard did you get chance to crono it at all

[@richsaunders6515]

@@stuartburgon5583 Hi Stuart. I've tested all three models. The 12 ft. lbs. .177 and .22 were both putting out 11.6 and the .30 cal was 101 ft. lbs.! All three were very consistent too.

[@silverbob999]

rifle looks really nice ,iwould have liked to have seen the faultless bombproof hw100 magazine system used on a new gun instead of the over priced brocock one, lets hope the rifle dosent have many problems because in my experience brocock/daystate customer service is abosulte s#ite

[@Blackroomhunt]

Sangat menarik

[@jonatansteven4905]

any dealers in Europe Baltic states?

[@Amack1966]

Where did Matt go, I have obviously missed something?

[@Amack1966]

@Broad Side I do try to keep up but I am obviously failing (publicly) 🤣

[@AFCUK67]

I'm in Essex and shoot at Pete's Farm for targets but looking for a permission. I have gun plan insurance and ex Army. I'm 55 and very trustworthy.

[@LuanNguyen-uf6zj]

👍✌

[@MikeTheSith200]

Nooooo Mat!!

[@fredde90210]

Ohh a FX Brocock 🤔🤔🎃😂

[@Solroper4461]

After spending £1300 on the rifle, you then have to buy a new cocking lever because the original is in the way of the safety button, surely this should be free.

[@1975supermike]

Going to miss matt.

[@stuartparr9318]

Where is the next episode be gutted if that’s it an no more

[@ogami2684]

エアソフトじゃなくてガチな空気銃か

[@bobbymoody2473]

🤠🔥🐿🐀🔥🤠

[@benpatsy2076]

I don't like it without Mat.. :-(

[@troywales983]

u need to stop your head light jumping up and down

[@kevinashford1219]

So where’s the greener fields Matt gone to then? My moneys on an FX promotion package for UK 🙄

[@martincook3459]

He's going to be editor of Air Gunner.

[@bubbamiles8133]

Can't hear YOU!+!;!

[@richsaunders6515]

Not sure why that is and no one else seems to have an issue. I'm not trying to be flippant, but have you turned the volume up?

[@1975supermike]

Need better audio equipment

[@reservedone1791]

You need to keep your smart r's comments to yourself until you post something better mate.

[@paulcarruthers1314]

Just had an email to make a text in response to this video on a comment I made. Obviously a scam

[@richsaunders6515]

Hi Paul. Unfortunately it's spam. We've removed the messages now and informed YT.

[@davea8046]

A fortnightly series? How many weeks in a fortnight again? And no apology or explanation. Come back Matt.

[@howardvarley8795]

Sad as I am I watched and subscribed to this show because of Matt Manning, without him its just another shooting show, Unsubscribed. And Richard,, if you make promises you should keep them!

[@banderas2701]

Me too Howard, same. 😒

[@richsaunders6515]

What have I promised Howard?

[@howardvarley8795]

@@richsaunders6515I have a Gamo maxxim elite, at 30 yds it has the same shot pattern as a 12 bore!! I asked you for your advice/help about an alternative, Im sure you will now remember this conversation. To be fair I cant remember if we conversed by email or just You tube comments but you said you would help/offer advice. You didnt. Two subsequent attempts to get a response went unreplied to. I understand you are a busy man but I was brought up to believe that if you said you would do something.. you did it!! That is your measure as a man .

[@johncollard7394]

@@howardvarley8795 How many different pellet's have you tried?

[@howardvarley8795]

@@johncollard7394 I have a box FULL of them, I wouldnt want to bore you with the list, but non made any difference, I suspect the 'auto loader' is faulty, we recovered a couple of spent pellets and the skirt seemed to have material missing!?

[@lalshpellari2785]

Super bravo very nice

[@dforr2981]

Rich, you are the Man. Expert shot and Super Stealthy. Is the supressor on the rifle part of the kit or was that something you can/need to add? and by the way.... Matt? Matt who?... ( yeah we know and love Matt Manning but he left us hanging so out with the old and in with new) Keep up the good work... see ya in a fortnight

[@richsaunders6515]

Thanks very much. Plenty would disagree though! No, the silencer is an extra...

[@dforr2981]

@@richsaunders6515 well as ''I am always correct'' just ask my wife.. ;-D those nay sayers are wrong. One of the things I kept asking Matt to do was to tell us are what pellets he'd be using. As you well know each gun is pellet unique. My FX Crown .25 likes JSB King Heavy 33.95 (34) gr but my Sheridan ( yes I have and old .20cal pump the shoots almost anything but the most accurate is the H&N Field Target Trophy. Let me tell you my friend going to the range for a day shooting dozens of different types of pellets is fun yet exhausting and expensive. If you could help us out as you talk about the Kit let us know what you have found to be most accurate for each gun you use, we would be eternally grateful.