The Alex Bowman Disqualification Is CRUEL.

[@DustyBuns71]

I felt so miserable last night after hearing the news that I just ended up just turning off Sunday night football and going to bed. Bowman proved everyone wrong with his playoff performance and should be in the round of 8.

[@naparacingfan9275]

I feel terrible for Bowman. Nothing he did wrong in this situation. Did everything he could to advance. Now fans will be calling for him to be replaced in the 48 again ugh.

[@nightraider9451]

@@naparacingfan9275 Then fans are loosing it. The guy was comfortably going to the round of 8, that merits something and speaks volumes of his consistency. Unfortunate end to his playoff run, but weight infractions are one of the most clear cut in motorsports.

[@tamezzodiac2862]

People crying for Bowman to be replaced are a joke. No other team has had all 4 cars in championship contention like Hendrick has recently. Bowman may not be the best at Hendrick, but he does his part. No one cried for Dale Jr to be replaced when he underperformed for years at Hendrick, and had back luck. Jr is my favorite driver, but Bowman so far he has almost had the same amount of wins as dale Jr at Hendrick in 3 less years. He shouldn't be replaced. No reason to. No reason to develop a new driver to have them stacked up against Kyle Larson, or chase and Byron. It just makes no sense to replace him. Ally likes him.

[@zacharyzbeetnoff7043]

So, we have Bubba Wallace getting a track cutting penalty while Byron did the same thing and got nothing. And this, I’m sorry this is proof this format is a sham that makes it way to easy for Nascar to manipulate

[@nightraider9451]

The Bubba-Byron thing seems unfair. But minimum weight is clear cut, it would be unfair to not give them a penalty. All other cars were compliant.

[@C4r0n1k]

The bubba and byron thing was clarified. Bubba had all 4 tires in the blue. Byron had at least 2. The rule was as long as you had one or two tires on the red(curb) your fine to go into the blue. But Bubba had all 4 in the blue. Hence why he got the pen and byron didnt

[@nightraider9451]

@@C4r0n1k In the video you can clearly see blue between Byrons car and the kerb in the apex. If Nascar wants to pick and choose what is a corner cut and what isnt, fine. But if they want to be a fair sport then both should have been penalised as both were fully on the blue at the apex.

[@TSpeer07]

As a Bowman fan, it's tough rigjht now, as Bowman has been a top 10 driver this year and he was deserving to make the round of 8, for the 1st time in his career. Hopefully he can go out and get a win before the end of the season and carry the momentum into next year, as he's arguably a top 10 driver in the sport.

[@racechamp2280]

It’s the even year Joey Logano prophecy 😂

[@nomadman5288]

What bout 2020?

[@Angel-vz5oj]

​@@nomadman5288 he made it to the final 4 2020

[@NASCARFAN93100]

Imagine Logano winning his 3rd Championship as The End Result

[@Me181]

Bs ah format 😂

[@codyb6849]

Agreed or Hamlin

[@ZiggyBricks]

I would honestly not watch nascar for a long time if that happens

[@ZAYRUSH48]

ive been a bowman fan since he took over for dale jr but kinda half assed it. I regained my obsession with the sport ever since nascar came to RA in 21 so i could see them in person. absolutely rekindled my love as a child for this sport. Being a bowman fan has its ups and downs. Winning 4 races in 21 to an injury at texas that ruined his 22 season. From being winless in 23 to winning at chicago and making a phenomenal playoff run while in the midst of getting shit on for being the "fourth hendrick car/driver" I can pretty confidently say all of us bowman fans were so proud of that 48 team to absolutely turn it on in the playoffs and went from a first round exit to a legitimate title contender (bit far stretched yes but still) RO16 proved it. By far the most points of any team followed by a solid RO8 capturing tons of stage points. 9/10 stages post roval pre DQ. He cemented his spot into the RO8 hell even overall points would kinda back that up to. The top 8 in points were the top 8 still in title contention, still in the playoffs. So man when i said i was high off that bowman playoff ride is a massive understatement. We got all the momentum so you wonder what could possibly go wrong for this team then while i'm chillin watch SNF boom. NO. 48 DQ'd Alex Bowman out Joey Logano in. I couldn't believe it. I genuinely thought it was bs until my twitter started blowing tf up. I knew the inevitable had just happened. It was over. Too light on the scale with many opportunities given to meet said weight limit and still could not I just knew it was over. I saw many saying "oh don't worry we have a chance the turtle incident on lap 2 or wtv is enough for a hendrick appeal" just something told me nah it's over. I listened to The Teardown the next morning and saw their live reaction listened to actions detrimental w denny hamlin to get some of his insight and I just watched my phone like a hawk waiting for that hendrick appeal. (i just kinda started believing ppl actually had a point on twitter) i waited all day to get a notification from jeff gluck.. Hendrick motorsports decides not to appeal. Now that didnt shatter me what shattered me was reading the official statement and seeing that "even though unintentional it was avoidable" that shit sucked. Why take that risk or if it so happened to be the turtle incident idk idc im just baffled and honestly stunned and pretty hurt. All this momentum telling everyone in the industry to go f themselves cuz The Showman is back baby then, he wasn't. Gotta be the most insane sports roller coaster i have ever been apart of just because it was my favorite driver.

[@ZKendall88]

"Everything is Great" - Alex Bowman 2024

[@sqwatchman53]

Lighter does not always mean faster, if ballast fell off mid race it can absolutely ruin the handling of a race car (which would explain the 18th place finish). In any case I’m less concerned about bowman and more concerned about yet another champion since 2020 that doesn’t deserve it. Can anyone honestly say that Elliot, Lagano, Blaney deserved championships with the years they had? Lagano’s average finishing position this year is 18th for gods sake with two wins. This just highlights how broken the playoff is. The only deserving champion so far this decade is Larson, all the others a Mickey Mouse champs.

[@crystaljon]

If a ballast fell off, there would still be a penalty. It's a major infraction.

[@sqwatchman53]

Doesn’t revoke the position though… it’s fine and crew suspension I think, could be wrong.

[@Me181]

Yep that's this format though. And we'll probs end up with Cryin Ryan or Joey the fraud winning again

[@C4r0n1k]

Elliott and blaney yea. Logano, hell no. The other two have been extremely consistent

[@brendanrb1014]

*Elliott, Logano. I agree though. I fear that happening as well, and I hope that this format gets fixed eventually.

[@steveo5712]

Hendrick taking one for the team.....NASCAR knew they couldn't fail the 45 post race because that would be too suspicious and draw far too much attention. Now this buffer, is it because of the quality control issues with the part manufacturers? 17 pounds is a lot of weight, how does a car fail weight post race but pass pre race tech, especially with the laser scanners and modern scales??

[@yundastan3358]

Take off the tinfoil hat… you’re losing it

[@nomadman5288]

Blaney has shown speed. He was one of the best cars, if not the best car at Kansas, but he lost spots in pit road and then had to pit with the wheel issue. I came through the field at Bristol to finish 6th. He was right there with Larson at Iowa. Had the second best car at Gateway and had it won, but ran out of gas coming to the white. He's still yet to finish worse than 6th(?) at Phoenix in this Gen 7 car and has had the best car in the past 2 fall races there. He's pretty good at the remaining four tracks too. He's a legit threat on speed.

[@MichealCampbell-h3g]

Yes I’m a Logano fan,, but you guys need to realize,, that the car was more then the tolerance is allowed under weight… they give them a good window to have these issues

[@jeezychreezy1]

I think they were already using the limit of 17 pounds. So -17 lbs to start. So when Alex bowman hit that turn hard and flew. Whatever broke off put them over 17 pounds.

[@Dupontman627]

I'm gonna be glad if Jordan and Hamlin win the lawsuit

[@justcody6068]

I thought you said you hated every Toyota driver

[@ZiggyBricks]

If Micheal Jordan successfully sues NASCAR, I expect some changes to come and an apology to every driver and team they've given a crap penalty to.

[@e-drums9766]

My thing is if it was good pre race inspection then that means something obviously happened and I doubt they would have gotten away with taking weight out while pitting sometime during the race.

[@rowdyjoshracing6298]

"Cruel" when its a Hendrick car. "I always knew they was cheatin'" if it was a Toyota. Honestly extremely funny to see everyone so upset, its a black and white rule. Just because it happened to an HMS car doesn't make it unjust lmao.

[@thedylan_s22]

No, it's fair. They had every opportunity to meet the minimum weight requirements (got weighed 3 times post-race) and couldn't.

[@burgnutt8378]

He literally had things flying off of his car after jumping the curb. Not anything they can control

[@DennyhamlinXI]

HACK

[@timechanger9162]

It’s not if the weight came off during the race. And if nothing did come off during the race then this should’ve been found out in pre race inspection.

[@nightraider9451]

​@@burgnutt8378its cruel, but still their responsability to meet minimum weight. The kerb didnt appear from thin air, he drove on it and it cost him. Tough luck really.

[@Marko137-em8nx]

​@@burgnutt8378those "things" are called carbon fiber

[@burgnutt8378]

I think they’ll appeal & win. I seen a rule where if ballast falls off during a race there’s crew suspensions but no points penalty.

[@nightraider9451]

Thats shady, a underweight car has a, minimal but still real, advantage over the compliant cars. Meaning the race results could have been different if his car would have been legal. DQ is the only way to keep the sport fair. Crew suspensions should only be for crew infringements in pit lane. Also, Nascar set precedent for weight limit penalties with Hamlin's DQ at Pocono.

[@Me181]

​@@nightraider9451 his car sucked all day bro 😂

[@willgriffin5647]

​@@nightraider9451uhhh he was at least 18lbs (ballast is heavy) under and ran 18th. Sooo looks like being underweight did NOT make his car better.

[@nightraider9451]

@@willgriffin5647 The advantage point of my comment isnt based on this incident exclusively. If the only performance differentiator is weight, a lighter car is faster all round than a heavier car, thats pretty obvious. His performance as a driver, or the damage incurred by himself going fully on the kerb doesnt exclude him from the weight limit rules. By that line of thinking only the race winner should be inspected for legality and possibly disqualified. You think thats fair?

[@willgriffin5647]

@@nightraider9451 except if nascar didn't have the blue curb nothing happens most likely. There is literally no possible way the team can remove 18+lbs during pitstops. Either the car wasn't at minimum weight pre-race or the curb that many drivers said they couldn't see broke his car and that's literally not their fault. Imo if you "cheat" and still suck, I say just fine the team and penalize the crew chief. I said the same thing about Briscoe last year. If it didn't help then let it go.

[@iracingdriver9]

Both of the 48s got screwed at Charlotte, plain and simple

[@funtimewithjj]

Hendrick motorsports did not appeal

[@nomadman5288]

The pre race to post race difference is the issue here in my opinion. NASCAR should have found the issue prior to the race. They're allowed .5 percent, which on a 3400lb car is 17lbs, so it was more than that. How much is not clear. However, we know the teams probably run a car as light as possible, so they're already at the edge, which means they probably only have to lose a piece of the car that's only pound or 2 to fall under the weight. It could very well be that something fell off the car, which if NASCAR goes over the car more closely they should be able to find. I'm sure they'll look at tape and at the car to see if something damaged. My question is: what if they do find that something came off the car and it is the difference in the weight? Does that mean Logano is out and Bowman back in? Because it would be kinda shitty to tell a team they're in, then tell them they're out in this sort of situation. So, we could potentially get a Round of 9. I doubt we will, but it's NASCAR, so I won't count it out.

[@nightraider9451]

@@nomadman5288 the 0.5% (17lb) leeway should be for post race inspection only, to account for damage among other things. In the pre race inspection the car has to be on weight, no leeway. If the car is ran so close to the limit and surpasses the leeway, the penalty is clear cut.

[@LarryKoopaFanatic]

Hendrick has apparently said they won't appeal from what I've seen and that for me is just the cherry on top for how terrible I feel for Alex Bowman. Whether his crazy jump through the frontstretch chicane is to blame or not, it really sucks cause he had one hell of a playoff run and I have no doubt he could have potentially even found his way into the championship 4. If this ends up rewarding Joey's insane even year luck with the championship even though he has not had the speed nor deserves to be in the round of 8 this year, I can only imagine the reaction 💀

[@runrafarunthebestintheworld]

Man why does Logano's playoff championship hopes always have to stay alive every two years.. what a pathetic season both in Baseball and NASCAR.

[@Wrlixer]

Why complain people complain when nascar enforces rules, but when they don’t they complain too

[@RowingFrontal5]

@@Wrlixeryou said it yourself they aren’t consistent

[@CelabWilliams-gb6rm]

@@RowingFrontal5neither nascar nor its fan base knows what they want.

[@redhunter68]

​@@CelabWilliams-gb6rmfans only want their favorite driver to win and their hated drivers to lose. Rules be damned.

[@connerpinder8756]

Pain.

[@walletracer9882]

The same thing could've happened to any of the HMS cars. Had Larson been disqualified, I think even he would've been booted out of the playoffs. Heads are going to roll this offseason...

[@dirtreynolds1456]

this is insane levels of cope from an HMS fan

[@justcody6068]

NASCARs recommend page will be all HMS fans crying

[@DennyhamlinXI]

Only way there winning the appeal is if Mr Hendrick pays them off lmao 😂

[@justcody6068]

I mean HMS owns nascar

[@Averageracingfan]

How do you make that mistake though? I race karts and im 5-10 over the minimum weight intentionally, and the cup cars are 10 times the weight of my karts... surely 5-10 is a lot less noticeable with 3600 pound cars and has abigger impact on a 370 pound kart

[@jacobsmall4585]

The general consensus and also my belief is that this is a result of Nascar's unnecessary rules. Too many grey areas. Racing should be like the old days; teams put together the best cars to win every given Sunday. For the underfunded teams, they should get charters from the bigger teams so fairness still exists. Just tired of the inconsistencies from Nascar

[@redhunter68]

This rule has been enforced since it's creation. Hendrick chose not to appeal, they know they screwed up. The 48 team was given every opportunity to pass weight they let them fill the fuel tank and all the water lines. Put the car o the scale multiple times. They were still more than 17 lbs under the weight. The 48 team screwed up.

[@jacobsmall4585]

@@redhunter68 it'll be interesting who gets suspended or fined that's for sure

[@calvinwarrenracing3074]

I wanna sue nascar so badly this is absolute bullshit, I ran a simulation of the pieces that flew off the 48 car, when measuring the piece, it was fucking 41 pound!? (Yes this sim is not perfect but I tried to get the best result as possible). But of course NASCAR doesn’t give a shit and they just want the worst driver in the round of 8, fucking 22 car. Unbelievable.

[@Marko137-em8nx]

It's kilos not pounds bud

[@calvinwarrenracing3074]

@@Marko137-em8nx my bad I said It wasn’t perfect soooo :/

[@willgriffin5647]

If the 48 was at least 18lbs under weight at the end of the race, how did pass pre-race inspection. I think NASCAR'S dumb turtles broke the car when he went airborne. I will say, if that was balist that fell out then maybe that's why they won't appeal. Btw, wouldn't a lighter car be faster? Clearly parts fell off so what NASCAR did was bull 💩

[@anthonyjackson8624]

Maybe it was a tungsten bias

[@Don-deliveries]

No one else was under weight above the allowed allowance. Not guaranteed to be a competitve advantage but also not guaranteed to not be a competitive advantage. People always whine and complain when nascar doesnt enforce own rules. And always whine and complain when they do. Everything is a conspiracy theory not just as simple as a simple ruling.

[@DillanBaldwin67B]

My question is, how do you have a car that lost a part during a race, that is a spec car, dq'ed for weight? Especially when it's the only one light. There's surely a rule about that for a damaged car right?

[@nightraider9451]

I think Nascar covers weight lost due to damage in the 17 pounds leeway they give on the minimum weight. Which its great, as breaking the limit by 1 pound due to damage and getting DQd seems excessive. But Bowman's car was more than 17 pounds lighter.

[@Therealjefflong]

Where's the parts that fell off?

[@nightraider9451]

@@Therealjefflong In the inboard of the car behind him a few bits fly off then he strikes the kerb and goes flying.

[@Therealjefflong]

@@nightraider9451 yeah.. it's that simple... ask yourself why hendrick isn't appealing. Ask it over and over until you get the correct answer

[@jamil4009]

HMS isn’t appealing so obviously even if the part that fell off was still there they would be underweight

[@Akwalley]

It’s suck im a Elliott fan but I like bowman and I think he deserves better

[@justcody6068]

He deserves better in spire because

[@ZiggyBricks]

@@justcody6068 You're really one of them Bowman haters that when you see one mistake from him, you say he doesn't deserve his ride and that he shouldn't be racing. And then when Larson spins himself out you're like "oh well hes special 🥺🥺🥺"

[@justcody6068]

@@ZiggyBricks I hope you realize that I hate Larsons guts

[@darylryan1036]

Something sounds fishy

[@JosephERoberts]

how can the car be good for prerace then fail after the race

[@SuperChevy-bg6ip]

if Bowman can’t be underweight and make the round of 8, then y the hell does Larson get to miss a race and be able to become a round of eight driver, it’s stupid and unfair, horrible call NASCAR

[@nightraider9451]

One raced a non-compliant car and the other didnt. Thats the only difference.

[@SuperChevy-bg6ip]

@@nightraider9451 yea I understand that but people who have missed 1 race didn’t get playoff contention, but Larson does, so y cant bowman be in the the round of 8 for having a underweight car, but Larson does

[@nightraider9451]

@@SuperChevy-bg6ip Because one is a breach of the technical rules of the cars and one is a Nascar sporting rule. To be honest, my opinion is that if there is precedent of people missing 1 race and being refused a playoff berth then Larson shouldnt be able to compete in it either. On the flip side, if someone missed 1 race and still has enough points to qualify for the chase then why shouldnt they, they earned it. But these are very different issues, and shouldnt be compared.

[@CoopCooper.]

Minimum weight is not cruel. You let these numbnuts start shaving weight they'll be driving around without key components to keep the driver's safe. Thats not counting the competitive edge they would gain. Watched the replay.. nothing visable fell of the car when he dukes of hazards that thing over the turtles.

[@darylryan1036]

I hope Bowman wins this weekend and he gives nascar 🖕

[@103188superman]

Alex Bowman not Disqualification

[@jakebennett5633]

Lolol HMS fans mad the golden boy team got caught

[@AnthonyBerry-z4l]

They had to make sure cry baby Logano to make it in

[@Brian_rock_railfan]

NASCAR so mean ! 😡

[@alphaanaconda]

Tragic

[@DennyhamlinXI]

I guess bowman really likes turtles lol 🤣🤣😂

[@jonahdaboss23]

Shut up you are embarrassing yourself

[@justcody6068]

HMS might be whispering to Spire behind bowman’s back after that one

[@DennyhamlinXI]

@@justcody6068 lol 🤣🤣

[@EdWinnota]

Just normal racing you have to make weight. Nothing cruel about it

[@Me181]

Rigged for Drama and Love for Penske

[@DennyhamlinXI]

Logano fans punching air rn 🤣😂😂

[@Therealjefflong]

Dont ever feel bad for hendrick getting caught cheating. Imagine how many times they dont get caught

[@Shadow_YT923]

Hi

[@WestEditz4Life]

It's a beautiful day to be a Nascar fan,bye bye bowman

[@cehamlet89]

Between this and the Cowboys game, yesterday was amazing

[@freyracer5650]

The ballast fell off over the chicane, so the car is damaged. It should be treated as every other damged car that finishes a race. And for all you "hendricks cheats and pays" idiots, this is a clear sign that you are incorrect.

[@tyler6929]

of course logano gets saved by a bullshit disqualification. i hope they apeal and win.

[@justcody6068]

So your saying nascar should allow cheating

[@tyler6929]

@@justcody6068 no idiot! If bowman and his team didn’t intentionally make the car lighter than it was that bump during the race that caused it. How’s that bowman’s fault???

[@justcody6068]

@@tyler6929 Daniel Suarez had the same thing but he didn’t fail and he didn’t get disqualified

[@juniortalent6118]

Disliked off of 1 min lol. Shouldn’t ask for it

[@Shadow_YT923]

Go go logano

[@Teknocal]

You don't deserve anything!

[@Shadow_YT923]

How dare you

[@sammodding4609]

he sucks

[@justcody6068]

@@sammodding4609so why does logano have 2 championships and bowman doesn’t?

[@nflshorts2144]

@@justcody6068Blud is a hardcore bowman hater🤣

[@MichealCampbell-h3g]

Yes I’m a Logano fan,, but you guys need to realize,, that the car was more then the tolerance is allowed under weight… they give them a good window to have these issues