The allegations against Danny Masterson (and why Ashton Kutcher also sucks)

[@EllyFLuft]

If you are watching this in August 2024 or later, Masterson has been sentenced to thirty years in prison. He was sentenced in December 2023 and will probably spend the rest of his life in prison. This sentencing was based on two charges.

[@theMoporter]

💃

[@rafa-oz2cc]

Fuck yeah

[@neru1584]

LETS GOOOOO

[@tegantalks9612]

And now it looks like Ashton may be facing more consequences because of the stuff with P-Diddy!

[@tegantalks9612]

When people ask victims of abuse why they don’t come forward, this is why. It is bad enough when people don’t believe you or question your motives for coming forward, but the amount of harassment these women have received on top of that is just horrendous. Having more of this context just makes what Ashton and Mila wrote in their letters and their dismissive apology that much worse. I commend Topher Grace for keeping his distance from his cast mates, even when people were calling him names for not being super friendly with them off set, and for his wife offering words of encouragement and support to the victims.

[@oh_riley7104]

I've repeatedly said how grateful I am to have kept quiet about my abusers in the last few months. It's literally scary what happens to some women, and never fails to re-traumatize. I feel so much for them, but I am grateful when at least some people finally get a bit of justice. It's the one thing that keeps that one shred of hope alive.

[@kendallmonge649]

As someone else already commented, you are consistently ahead of the times when it comes to discourse calling out people like Masterson, Depp, etc., and their enablers. This video feels especially timely and brilliant, given the recent sentencing, and given Ashton Kutcher and Mila Kunis's horrendously bad letters supporting leniency for their abusive convicted friend. I REALLY hope your channel gets all the praise and attention it deserves, because there aren't enough people out there calling out gross and harmful public figures like you do, especially at the depth, care, and attention to detail you give to these cases.

[@paprikapop]

i really appreciate this youtuber for actually saying the words rape and assault without censorship. so many video essayists i watch are afraid to say what actually happened and have whole essays about rape full of euphemisms calling it "grape" and so on so forth. its an infantilizing trend and frankly underplays the crimes they want to discuss. having things said straight here is really nice.

[@thecardboardsword]

"infantilising trend" lol saying certain words just hurts your reach, complain to youtube about it

[@juliezulich2645]

It has something to do with KZbin and monetizing videos. It’s fucking annoying though because open misogyny and other things that result in rapes is fine, but saying literal official criminal law terminology is problematic. And KZbin is a Nazi cesspool which they also don’t care about, but God forbid you use the words in actual laws.

[@youforget1000thingsaday]

🙄

[@CaymenLeP]

…that’s KZbin’s fault. You know what the word is, you know what they’re talking about. What is infantilizing about spreading your reach to more people? IMO, it’s pretty childish to applaud someone for saying a naughty word. But oh well.

[@paprikapop]

@@CaymenLeP the point is that theyre not naughty words--they're real words. sure, i know what the euphemism means, but it's ridiculous for serious accusations to be coached in euphemisms like "grape" and "unalive". i get your point about reach though--primarily this is the fault of companies like youtube. i still think it's worth applauding medusone for speaking the truth without censorship, even though it may hurt their overall reach

[@meaganblack1529]

Jane Doe 1 is braver than the Marines.

[@TRUECRIMESPTV]

Topher was the only one not fucking around with alcohol, drugs, and whatever the hell else. To quote Grace, "“I was, of that cast, the most boring. So when it came to going out after the show and partying, I just was boring.” It's just an outright lie that Masterson was keeping people from using drugs on That 70s Show. Lisa Robin Kelly DIED of a drug overdose, leading to Laurie having to be recast. Masterson has been a big time drinker pretty much his entire life, and there's no way he wasn't also using drugs. He certainly used them to commit rape.

[@tegantalks9612]

I think the public owes Topher an apology. He probably felt weirded out by his cast mates but couldn’t prove they had done anything wrong, at the time, without looking bad and killing his career. I think him distancing himself was the best thing he could have done.

[@tarik6990]

Lisa Robin Kelly wasn't close to Masterson and didn't hang out with the rest of the gang, her drug issues were happening regardless of That 70s Show and she died of a drug overdose almost 10 years AFTER being kicked out of the show.

[@jessejameswest9956]

god you’re on par with the video essay channels I watch with 500k+ views and subs, I can’t wait until your channel blows up

[@spacetiger23]

holy shit, I was not aware of the whole case and everything surrounding it, I'm so thankful to have watched this video, and I'm baffled by this being six months old, considering the recent events. it could definitely not be accused of jumping on a hate wagon, you reported everything without bias. Thank you so much for this, it was really informative and eye opening, more people need to watch this video

[@melanieanderson8140]

Excellent video. I will be sharing this with the people who keep asking how Danny Masterson got convicted of a crime committed 20 years ago, with no evidence, and based on hearsay.

[@oh_riley7104]

Just wanted to drop a line for the algorithm. I found you through a subreddit talking about Depp v Heard. It's so incredibly hard to find someone as consistently on the right side as you have been, nor as thorough as you unfailingly are. It's so refreshing, and I've been binge watching/listening through your channel for several days now. I'm gonna have many hours of re-listening ahead, too. You deserve to have so many more subscribers, and I hope your channel keeps picking up traction. Thank you so much for all the work that must go into these videos!

[@Apathesis0]

Ashton defending Masterspn really makes me question what his child protection group Thorn actually does. Does it really protect children, or is it just a way for him to launder money?

[@milpool8577]

How is this video 6 months old with this few comments/likes? I can’t speak to the veracity of her claims but her analysis makes a lot of sense and seems well researched.

[@FabulousSquidward]

Milpool lol

[@Diana-mu7pc]

Rewatching and commenting to promote this in the algorithm again!! Because relevant!! As always you are ahead of the mainstream pop culture discourse and we thank you for consistently being able to see through faux-liberal celebrity bullshit.

[@wendywehner2320]

I was reading your comment & I was agreeing w everything you were saying because I'm doing the same thing. However, I'm not sure what you mean by, "faux liberal bullshit"? 🤔 A fake Liberal or all Liberals are fake? As a life long Liberal now leaning Independent because I know there is BS on the Liberal side too, I'm wondering why you're bringing politics into this? I'm Left leaning & I 100% believe Danny Masterson is guilty! I also believe that Ashton is TRASH! While I'm angry with Mila too, I agree with others saying that she was groomed!

[@Diana-mu7pc]

@@wendywehner2320 I'm not really meaning to insult anyone's politics so much as the way celebrities use political performance to their advantage. That's what I mean by "faux liberal," because it's motivated by PR and often inconsistent to how they really think and behave off camera. As is the case with Kutcher. You and I as non-celebrities can identify with any political label we want and it can be authentic because we have no one to appease, and no one who will reward us for a grift. Certainly not all liberals are fake; that's why I was using "celebrity" in that sentence.

[@alabaster2163]

Look at you all ahead of your time!! I hope this blows up!!

[@Hellomoto123]

This aged well.

[@notnat4435]

was this video made before the mila kunis ashton kutcher drama surrounding the trial? I thought maybe she made this bc of the controversy

[@ampernos]

Not sure how I ended up here, but thank you for this video! Great research and format! Wondering why it doesnt have more likes and views??

[@pembrokelove]

4:59 see, I see the repeated references to DM “refusing to be around drugs” are actually a subtle challenge to the Jane Does in this case; nearly every woman who has accused Masterson of this crime has cited his use of illegal chemical restraints - than means drugs, kids. So by asserting, repeatedly, that DM does not tolerate drug use and abuse, the statements suggest that the Jane Does lack credibility.

[@dafnifez]

Thank you for this deep dive into the Danny Masterson case. I'm one of the people that have been hearing about his accusations like a distant rumor and have never really gotten to the heart of them; thanks to this video now I have. And wow, I never could have guessed that it's this bad! He's so guilty that it's insane that anyone could defend him, which makes Kutcher's defense of him extremely repulsive and immoral. I've never been a particular fan of Kutcher's but after knowing all these things about him, I'll be making active efforts to avoid anything connected to him. (I wish there was a database to go to to keep track of celebrities' problematic and abusive takes and behaviors cause it's getting really hard to keep track of them lol) It seems to me that the Entertainment's industry's silence about Masterson and Kutcher's recent defense of him may be signs that they're preparing for a "comeback" of sorts for him, especially now that Depp has given abusers everywhere some level of confidence that they can get away with A LOT in the glaring eyes of the public. And this worries me, it worries me too with regards to his criminal trial cause as obvious as it seems that he's guilty to anyone that's dug deep into the evidence, as you point out, there's no telling what biases or designs the presiding judge and the chosen jury may come up with. I really do hope though that he loses both cases for the sake of his victim-survivors and for the sake of other victim-survivors, women, and the former members of the Church of Scientology. Speaking of the CoS, it has all the tell-tale signs of another NXIVM and, like NXIVM, it seems to be only a matter of time before it is exposed and falls apart. Still, its having bigger-name celebrities inside it will protect it for much longer than we may expect. Ultimately, I echo your feelings with respect to this whole thing: fvck Masterson, fvck CoS, fvck Kutcher, fvck Laura, fvck Esquire... and fvck Steven Miller (whichever Miller he is lol). On the other hand, I hope the best for Masterson's victim-survivors. A note of slight correction: 3.4 million, not billion, Buddhists 🤭

[@medusonegirl]

You're right, I completely misspoke about the number of Buddhists... oops. I meant "million."

[@roksana1736]

49:36 That's why I think the jury system is stupid, especially in cases of rape or involving DV. A randon citizen is on avarage more sexist than a judge and it's easier to provide the judges with the right training to handle these cases with some sensitivity

[@sparksfly5877]

Yes, thank you! I despise juries. They are, for the most part, far less accurate than judges, and far more influenced by prejudice. What should happen is that juries are still present, and not able to deliver a verdict. However, they are allowed to deliver an opinion on a verdict that can be grounds for appeal. That should be the limit.

[@JohnSmith-eo5sp]

I have long thought how we should replace civilian juries with professional jurors

[@adeer87]

True, but judges can also be incredibly misogynistic too.

[@HillsAliveYT]

Glad to get to binge your content after you hit 1k so you can actually get paid for the insane amount of work that goes into all of this, and so glad to watch this video after Danny was found guilty. After the first mistrial, my hopes were not high, so the fact that the jury convicted him of just enough to ensure he'd be doing hard time was a massive relief. The rumors about Topher Grace not hanging with the rest of the cast definitely REALLY aged well, and also this is a super deep celebrity gossip cut that could or could not be true, but I recall that Laura Prepon's current husband Ben Foster was on and off with Robin Wright for a long time, and the rumors/speculation about their relationship was that he was into Scientology and she wasn't so the church kinda tried to break the relationship up. I think he's sort of one of those people in the Will Smith-ish category who has never said that he was a Scientologist but had way more connections to Scientology than a normal person would have, and based on the sequence of events I think a lot of people guessed that his relationship with Laura Prepon was a move to suck him back into Scientology. That obviously doesn't preclude the possibility that he was a factor in Laura Prepon's decision to bail, but her super abrupt turnaround after being so hardcore for so long plus his connections to Scientology make it seem like something else could have been the deciding factor. Clearly, whatever it was, it must have been pretty compelling given how many horrible things she overlooked or supported in service of being a "good Scientologist."

[@Joseluissamaniego]

Ashton and Danny are Beavis and Butthead in psychopath mode.

[@xandra3220]

I loved That '70s Show. I even went to a taping and met the cast. I never doubted these allegations, though. The segment on Laura Prepon was especially hard to watch. Thanks for doing this. Another excellent piece. I have a lot to think about.

[@BeccaAl]

I’ve been recommending this vid all over but spelling your channel name wrong! This is just an incredible breakdown of the accusations and surrounding reporting. Well done, you’re a hidden gem!

[@WhenSaraiSpeaksUListen]

Wow….. I did not know ANYTHING about this case/situation until recently.. this is INSANE! And SO DISTURBING! OHMYGOSH!

[@NotaNinja]

I was molested from the ages 6 - 10, as a 40 year old man, people often tell me i imagined it, or brought it on myself...

[@electricmagnetic]

I'm very surprised that you don't have more subs. You're doing an awesome job!

[@corneliusantonius3108]

Julian Schwarz of Scientology is a real piece of work.

[@tegantalks9612]

Honestly I hope to see some more info about him and Luke Watson for Aaron and Leah.

[@JulianaBittencourt24]

Aged like fine wine 🍷

[@danalightly]

B list is very generous lmaoo

[@larbot3433]

I remember watching this a few months ago and being blown away at how all of this has not been bigger news than it has. Then the last few days happened. Hope the algorithm gives this one a bit of momentum.

[@jasonbaird1645]

I can't believe this video has under a thousand views. You have enough good info here to absolutely destroy Ashton Kutcher if anyone actually wanted to see through his facade. His refusal to speak out against Scientology is proof in itself that his commitment to fighting sex trafficking is an illusion at best and controlled opposition at worst. Scientology's crimes are well-documented at this point and in fact it was the inspiration for NXIVM. One day, I think a lot of people are going to be embarrassed that they never saw through Kutcher's bullshit even though the red flags were there all along. Great video. Subbed.

[@catyatzee4143]

The character even said he saw himself in prison 5 years later in the job interview, why not just say he’s in jail and not say why. “ what’s he in jail for?” “ dunno, prob a few things”

[@janedoe1510]

Thank you for making this. Exactly what I’ve been looking for on this topic 🙏

[@TheMarmaladeJars]

Thanks for all the effort you put into this. Super informative!

[@meaganblack1529]

Thank you for this video. I am now a subscriber, because this was great.

[@lizard72959]

(Gonna talk about Ashley Ellerin’s case) I know you talked about Kutcher’s inconsistencies that the police knew about but you’d think the fact whether the door was unlocked or locked would’ve been publicized. Or maybe a witness at the Oscar’s after party describing Kutchers state. Or phone records from Kutcher the night he went to her house, I feel like him being the last one to talk to her would be enough to get a warrant? What can Kutcher be charged with anyway? Perjury? Too many questions, not enough answers. Guess I’ll go watch the video you mentioned. :P

[@lizard72959]

Ok watched that man’s most recent video and maybe Kutcher could be sued by the second victims family? I feel like what he did deserves jail time though since (according to the video I watched) kutchers the reason they couldn’t get the murderer on trial

[@valolafson6035]

​@@lizard72959 But good luck. His lawyers would bury their's.

[@beckyboone84]

Thank you for this video!!

[@d.-_-.b]

That Fuller House reference was on point LOL

[@mollspice7]

Incredible job, LOVE this video, just one thing -- there are 3 to 4 million buddhists in the US, I think you said 3 to 4 billion :)

[@sevds000]

Commenting for the algorithm! Thank you for making this video

[@wendywehner2320]

Thank you for this video. I've been following the detaiils of DM since I heard about the allegations in 2017. Since then I've wondered about his coworkers' reactions & I'm so disappointed, with the exception of Topher Grace! I have watched your more recent video on this & I will watch your other videos as well.

[@janeecevega1229]

Searched for this video by name and it doesn’t show up on search

[@medusonegirl]

It seems like KZbin changed its mind recently but I think it was age-restricted for a bit so maybe that's why?

[@thepoetswife]

Love your channel, you are doing an amazing job!

[@caspaladino1025]

Honestly, i feel like ashtons overplayed greif couldve been him grappling with the trauma of seeing her body. I feel like his PR team would've played off his trauma as greif because seeing the body of someone whos been stabbed almost 50 times will definitely be traumatic. Not trying to excuse anything because the actions of him and his team were fucked up but theres no way he was the same after seeing that shit.

[@exileayahika]

Your videos are great. I started watching you when you spoke out against BJ, and she's been sued! Still starting trouble... but you are honest!

[@tonigrosso7544]

Her lawsuit has been dropped

[@exileayahika]

​@@tonigrosso7544Lima's?

[@pinkberrycat]

so glad I found this channel

[@nesu5505]

I like this video a lot! Journalism at its best.

[@meeowmeeowmeeow]

I love your channel. You have a new subscriber!

[@tegantalks9612]

I find it absolutely baffling that the church went through so much effort to protect someone who is at best a C-List actor. Like I could maybe understand going through all this trouble for an A-list actor at the height of fame like Cruise or Travolta, but Danny Masterson being so protected seems so weird.

[@risipieces]

this video is amazingly well done, but do you have a specific source for steve miller being a scientologist? i know you don’t go into much detail on that, but i just mentioned it to a friend of mine who loves the steve miller band, and when we tried to look it up to make sure, couldn’t find anything about him specifically. i only saw mentions of a former band member (the organ player mentioned in the hbo documentary) being in the cos though

[@medusonegirl]

I said "known Scientologist" in the video when I should have said "rumored Scientologist." He's never publicly identified as a Scientologist as far as I'm aware (and certainly Steve Miller is a common enough name that the reference in the civil suit against the CoS could be a complete coincidence), but there are longstanding speculations and a general attitude from many that he's affiliated with the church somehow due his and other band members' proximity to other Scientologists. I've seen some people assert over the years that he joined the church in the '70s, sometime around when "The Joker" came out, but not with any specific citing source-just a collection of random people convinced of this, wherever the rumor originates. Of course, it could just be that Miller happens to know a lot of Scientologists but isn't a part of the church himself, which wouldn't be unlikely for anyone in the entertainment industry, OR he perhaps took some classes in the '70s (which could account for the rumors) but isn't currently a member. I definitely shouldn't have been so declarative in the video, but I was so focused on the Danny Masterson stuff that I think I just kinda blurted out the Steve Miller comment without being super careful about my wording.

[@risipieces]

@@medusonegirl that makes sense, thank you for both the clarification and the quick response! i completely understand a little messy wording, especially in a video that’s so heavy in subject matter and full of so much material

[@moonchildpink5525]

Danny actually sounds like a horrible human being. Over time Danny has come right out & spoke his truth. Everyone around Danny, including his family had to be aware of Danny's behavior. Even worse, IMO his wife is familiar with some of the behaviors described but somehow is in denial. I say this because a person who has a track record of this dehumanizing behavior is someone who can't stand themselves so without major therapy & sobriety they will not change. Facts!

[@fizzysod8a]

this needs more than 10k views so i liked and commented

[@BarackLesnar]

good idea me too

[@sparksfly5877]

Medusone, how are you always ahead of the curve?

[@jimmyice]

I can’t believe you have a Bam/Lima and Scientology video! Both of my way to deep rabbit holes! I watch AAron n company religiously, love his friends the Headley’s channel as well. I don’t have a good feeling about the trial, hope I’m wrong! You appeared on my feed just as I was coming around 360 and realizing again that BJ was crazy (they sucked me in for a few weeks 😒)

[@rachelnico]

Would love more insight on BJ .. I love her, what’s the controversy?

[@tegantalks9612]

21:25 the audacity of Danny to insult the appearance of Chrissy. She is absolutely gorgeous and he looks like garbage became sentient.

[@juuuu0]

I did it! I found the most underrated channel on youtube!

[@InvaderCraftBR]

u a legend

[@Time_Is_Left]

“I would rather he just do drugs” is 😂

[@MiraculousAngelTarot]

Now Danny is going to experience the donkey punch on his own back in prison.

[@jamespedder5171]

I wish there was some way addressing Kurtwood or Debra Rupp directly because I would ask why in gods name would you write these hallmark card endorsements for Danny even if you were told they would never been seen by the public. Please go on some obscure podcast some day to give us the background because we do love the characters you portrayed I guess

[@JordoTWFS]

KZbin needs to put this in the algorithm, I don’t think anyone else has done a deep dive on this topic! Ashton Kutcher ruined two and a half men, among many other terrible deeds. I hate him and Fanny bastardson. Gonna go to bed to this thank you

[@JordoTWFS]

Nevermind this is not advertiser friendly nor sleep background noise. FUCK THIS GUY

[@darlenelagace8643]

Because Mia Ashton's wife 14 under age and they knew it that's why they can't bring anything up They can be in hot water now if someone does something about it

[@grantrollins321]

I just started getting into the Steve miller band. Why is everyone so fucked up 😭😖

[@AnnK.-vu2yp]

Ashton Kutcher is not and never has been a good actor or a good dude.

[@AB-dz7lo]

But the number of investigations does not mean the number of people, there can be a group of people who were trafficked in the same system but the investigation is only one?

[@tytanhenley7163]

Yes

[@autumnbrooke1721]

I can’t believe how evil these people are .. and to protect another evil person

[@sebastiaanvisser9314]

3.4 billion budists in the US alone? 🤔 Interesting...

[@medusonegirl]

million* I misspoke

[@jimmyice]

Wasn’t Xenu a buddhist? 🌋

[@daintydalmatian]

Those statistics you’re criticizing are actually very useful. Also that was almost a decade ago. Very few prozt tutes are consenting in the trade. There’s so many books and studies on this since decades ago

[@tamigreene2709]

No false allegations are not rare and that's a fact!!!!!

[@drartemisa21]

Source please

[@BarackLesnar]

They're much rarer than unreported rapes

[@EJ1443]

With respect to the Depp case, Depp himself wanted the trial to be public because he knew Amber was lying. Also most abusive partners (ie Depp) have a history of abusing previous partners. None of his partners have ever accused him of abuse. And even his famous co-stars have not said anything. I find it hard to believe that Helena Bonham-Carter would not be taken seriously if she were to alleged that Depp was a bad person . Granted yes the tiktok were tacky, but I wish you were paying attention to how Amber behaved. She instantly stopped fake crying, and she was EXTREMELY rude to the court and jury. And she literally lied, and she has a history of abusing an ex girlfriend. I wish you would think critically and look at the evidence. This is deeply disturbing . As for Ashton, put yourself in his shoes (before the verdict/while trial was ongoing) your friend whom you have known for decades is accused of horrible crimes. We are often blinded to the faults of those we love. Obviously once the evidence showed he was guilty, Ashton and Mila should have maybe taken time out to reflect and not say anything. I find it hard to believe you would drop a friend as soon as accusations came out

[@larbot3433]

Medusone has 10+ hours of videos that go over ALL of the evidence in Depp's case in detail, she HAS looked at the evidence. Depp was abusive, this is undeniable once you read the evidence. The fact that some of Depp's friends said that he was a nice guy does NOT negate the evidence that exists that he was abusive. The fact that you think Amber was "rude" (a subjective opinion, NOT a fact) does NOT negate the evidence that exists that he was abusive. The fact that Amber allegedly grabbed her then girlfriends arm in an airport does NOT negate the evidence that exists that he was abusive. What's deeply disturbing is your need to come on here and defend celebrity rapists and abusers.

[@larbot3433]

The thing about narcissistic abusers is that they do a very good job of convincing everybody around them that they are good guys. How often have you heard people say that about a murderer? "He was such a nice guy, never suspected he would do something like this" or "He was a family man" after murdering his wife and children. How you feel about them as a person does not negate the abuse they commit behind closed doors. This viewpoint is super problematic and is the reason why victims have such a difficult time coming forward in the first place..

[@JohnSmith-eo5sp]

The reason why Depp wanted to make it a public trial was to totally and globally humiliate Heard. It was all a giant PR war for him. He could only resurrect his own sinking career by destroying Amber's reputation. The UK Court of civil law found that JD had committed physical and sexual abuse of his wife on 12 of 14 occasions. Actress Ellen Barken testified Depp could be insanely jealous and he threw a bottle at her!

[@Laneym-]

I wanted to like this more but your research is so bad. 3.4 billion buddhists in the us? Do you know how many people are on earth? Reliability is important, especially when talking about such an important case. Yikes

[@larbot3433]

Can you share the timestamp of where she said 3.4 billion buddhists in the US?

[@larbot3433]

Also just having a quick google and its 3-4 million buddhists in the US, so it was probably just a mistake that she said the wrong word and she didn't pick it up during editing. S

[@jimmyice]

She was counting thetans not bodies…bet you feel stupid

[@JessicaKay]

Fantastic video. Thank you for the deep dive! It gave me a lot more understanding of the case as a whole. Also, one of the victims claimed on her instagram something about the night Ashley was murdered, basically confirming the theory that Ashton knew she was dead, and did nothing. Horrid!