The Anatomy of Malice: Rorschach Results from Nuremberg War Criminals

[@janetecarin4873]

Dehumanization is what makes us do things to serve a country, science, or any other form of organization. Today is a lot of homeless in the world and we look at them with disgust and no one sees them as a human being.

[@marcdenton2996]

Excellent lecture. I was going to skip it at first as the subject is very uncomfortable but kept going being intrigued by the speaker. I would like to hear more from him.

[@colourmegone]

What I find more disturbing is the psychological landscape of the ordinary Nazi participant in the Holocaust: the men who ran the camps and the guards and other staff employed in them. What did the men who dropped the Zyklon down onto the nude, huddling bodies of the victims think? Was it just another onerous task or was it something more personal? Was it horrific, done with averted eyes, or rewarding?

[@colourmegone]

There are some really unsettling interviews with those who participated on a hands-on level. There's a good BBC documentary but I can't remember the name offhand.

[@mortalclown3812]

I've been trying to find the doc since reading your comment; if you think of it, please post. Thank you.

[@paigetomkinson1137]

That would be quite fascinating to see. As a person who doesn't work in any related field, I'd very much like to read/see other interpretations of the mental status of these men. Personally, I cannot believe that they were as "normal" as any other person walking down the street, because it seems far flung that a random selection of human beings could be brought together, and manipulated into becoming what the Nazis became. I, obviously, would have a difficult time being an impartial researcher.

[@bleachbit6734]

Did the Rorschach examiners use identical scoring systems and interpretive rules? Was the Rorchach in 1946 a research based instrument?

[@henrikhansen1023]

Not then not now - it is an illusion to think you can define people from inkstains based on the fantasi of a child which Rorschack was when he did it. And a crime to take the right the do it.

[@BIGMAYNEGREGG]

Until around 1975, it was not at all used with an empirically-based scoring and interpretive system. It was all about psychoanalytic interpretation. It is empirically-sound now, though. Very hard to learn, but incredibly useful to understanding a person's response process to a semi-ambiguous task as part of a comprehensive assessment battery. No test is good alone.

[@ChateauGuitars]

If Rorschach and MRI tests can show the outline of sociopathic disorders, why aren't we making these mandatory and available for our own political leaders and candidates?

[@henrikhansen1023]

AI_ Boy Rorchschar have ‘diagnose’ (reference point) for normality and it is not related to the subjects interpretation but the ‘therapist’ same. Rorchscach deems anybody insane.

[@paigetomkinson1137]

@@JoshPod001 Ahh, yes. Nature or nurture. I have to think it's a combination of both; and that there may be individual personality traits, or specific "flaws" within the physical structures of the brain which makes some people do evil things. It can't be all background, otherwise the siblings of these men would have been at the top echelon of the Nazis, too. It may well be that researchers haven't yet encountered the specific background, or the specific make up of genes/ neurological disorders. It could be they've seen it all, but haven't yet "seen" it for what it really is/does yet.

[@olstar18]

Not the only test out there that appears to be a waste of time unless you understand what they are trying to do. Would you question a carpenter who measures the same board 3 times before he cuts it?

[@deadsparrow28]

I think he just proved that Rorschach testing is a waste of time.

[@henrikhansen1023]

Exactly......if it was not such a dangerous weapon in the hands of dangerous people.

[@olstar18]

Remember those same experiments always had a handful of people who refused.

[@jackieann5494]

Loved this . It especially confirms for me the fallen nature of humankind . The immature believers in Utopia are dangerous . As had been said before , they're always just one massacre away from Utopia . The idea of Government as God never ends well .

[@michaeltowslee4111]

Humans as a whole are not fallen. Individuals can be corrupted by their own choices, fear, and ignorance. We are not subject to some mythical "fall". We are only accountable for our own actions, not the deeds of some mythical ancestors

[@wauwau1604]

Thank you!!

[@misspinkpunkykat]

When I was put in the boobie hatch at nine years old, in 1996, I actualy was asked to look at those Rorscharch cards and tell the phycologist what the image looked like to me. I mostly saw seahorses and fish.

[@jackieann5494]

❤️

[@BaltimoreJo]

I think finding the right set of monsters to do those deeds was like natural selection on steroids. Those not mentally ill fell out very quickly.

[@cthrew1603]

A road that leads nowhere.

[@pcuimac]

Does anybody regard Rohrschach tests as science?

[@CultofThings]

I do but I'm an artist

[@BaltimoreJo]

Those that settled in for the long haul would likely have loved to have doing same all their lives.

[@patchesohoulihan1032]

stop flulffing about an get to the actually answers they gave on the test

[@henrikhansen1023]

Rorschacht ‘expert’??? What authority could a person have who thinks he can define people by their interpretations of inkstains from a baseline created by a child?? Psychiatry is quackery !

[@mortalclown3812]

Babies and bathwater.

[@paigetomkinson1137]

I guess you missed the whole introduction which explained all of this. What a shame, because it was enlightening.

[@gaebren9021]

I don't know about the movie clips as examples. Movie are a work of fiction. If he is going to use them in his talk say. "These are movie clips and dramatisations of the interactions."