Anatomy Of Malice: The Enigma of the Nazi War Criminals

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International Spy Museum

International Spy Museum

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In 1945, when the Allies convened the Nuremberg trials, a psychiatrist, Douglas Kelley, and a psychologist, Gustave Gilbert, tried to understand the psychology of the Nazi leaders, using extensive psychiatric interviews, IQ tests, and Rorschach tests.
Their findings were so disconcerting that portions of the data were hidden and the research was bitterly disputed: Gilbert thought the war criminals exhibited depraved psychopathology; but Kelley believed them to be ordinary men corrupted by their situation. Who was right?
Drawing on decades of experience, Joel E. Dimsdale, distinguished professor emeritus and research professor in psychiatry at the University of California, San Diego, takes a fresh look at the findings and focuses on Robert Ley, Hermann Goering, Julius Streicher, and Rudolf Hess. This evening, Dimsdale will discuss his complex and troubling quest to make sense of the most extreme evil in his new book Anatomy of Malice.
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@lindaclement3407
@lindaclement3407 3 жыл бұрын
All through this video I kept waiting for the real data to start. I thought I was listening to a preamble which explained the sources of information, following which there would be presented the results of the various testing described. Little did I know that all the speaker intended to do was to list the persons who performed psychological testing on mostly unnamed and undescribed Nazi war criminals, add vague descriptions of those tests, and that was it. This entire lecture could be condensed into a five-minute presentation with no loss.
@mididoctors
@mididoctors 3 жыл бұрын
I had similar disappointments
@TheDavidlloydjones
@TheDavidlloydjones 3 жыл бұрын
'Bout right. It's pretty thin gruel.
@snapmalloy5556
@snapmalloy5556 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you....You saved me from wasting my time
@billwells8131
@billwells8131 2 жыл бұрын
YB job B B TV B B in I'm I I'm I'm
@Peace-tk3gr
@Peace-tk3gr 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I'm 5 minutes in and so bored. Won't bother. Waste of a download 😴
@TreyWait
@TreyWait 4 жыл бұрын
The black professor got the story about the Sociopathic doctor all wrong. He discovered he himself was a sociopath while doing a study on sociopaths in prison, doing MRI scans mapping neural activity. Sociopaths lack the ability to empathize with others, which makes them more likely to commit violent crimes. He got to the point where he needed a normal brain scan as a control and simply hopped into the MRI himself. He was shocked to discover that his scan showed all the features of sociopathy too. He realized after talking to his wife and his friends that he had shown signs of sociopathy all along but had never put the pieces together. Doctors have a slightly higher instance of sociopathy than normal. It's a profession where lacking empathy is actually helpful, being able to dispassionately deal with the problem at hand rather than putting themselves in the position of the patient. Just consider surgeons having to cut into patients.
@littlefluffybushbaby7256
@littlefluffybushbaby7256 2 жыл бұрын
I saw something similar with a guy looking at psychopaths. For fun he tested himself. No prize for guessing the result. Many can be psychopaths but still lead absolutely normal lives. I don't know if it's an urban myth (it probably is) but I've heard it said that 25% of managers are psychopaths. Remember that at your next review. Ha ha.
@UNUSUALUSERNAME220
@UNUSUALUSERNAME220 Жыл бұрын
And here's his Google talk. kzbin.info/www/bejne/ooDNqp6ChqaXl6c
@Tarotgal8205
@Tarotgal8205 3 жыл бұрын
The slide presentation is washed out and can't be seen. In the future please turn up the volume on your end. It is very low when listening on a computer.
@Sp84245
@Sp84245 2 жыл бұрын
Fine presentation with lucid detail. Notes did not appear inappropriate or distracting given the extent of the information presented.
@ciroalb3
@ciroalb3 Жыл бұрын
he's horrible. A lecturer who know his subject shoudl be able to go through it point by point, know where he's going and lead the listeners along. He hesitates, hems and haws, long pauses as he consults his notes etc
@Sp84245
@Sp84245 Жыл бұрын
Fine presentation with lucid detail. Notes did not appear inappropriate or distracting given the extent of information presented. Overall favorable remarks and comments and reception for his presentation
@robbie_
@robbie_ 5 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. Thanks for sharing.
@immanuelnavan-tasi9326
@immanuelnavan-tasi9326 Жыл бұрын
Insightful and peculiarly interesting.
@kekero540
@kekero540 5 жыл бұрын
1:30 Correction 11 million plus all the civilian casualties they caused.
@klown839
@klown839 Жыл бұрын
Didn’t you know? Jewish victims are more important than all other victim groups of WW2.
@darkwinterprepper8495
@darkwinterprepper8495 2 жыл бұрын
I agree that the audio and visual needs work, but the content was fascinating!
@coolnvigilantoutreach9418
@coolnvigilantoutreach9418 4 жыл бұрын
Great presentation. I'm surprised he didn't mention Earnst Rahm.
@johnelliott0101
@johnelliott0101 6 ай бұрын
This guy gave me a early nap. 😮
@ophirdagan8227
@ophirdagan8227 2 жыл бұрын
TNX 🙂 THAT WAS VERY EXCITING
@paulwillard9687
@paulwillard9687 Жыл бұрын
The picture displays are awful otherwise it wasn’t bad but much of what I learnt do my GCSES and A Levels at school here in the U.K.
@stephendean2896
@stephendean2896 6 жыл бұрын
Goering seem to be attracted to people he believe had power till the very end That's what I took from this video
@VALIS538
@VALIS538 4 жыл бұрын
More adverts please
@mr_oz3713
@mr_oz3713 4 жыл бұрын
ISM has gone downhill drastically on many fronts.
@iamthisiam
@iamthisiam 3 ай бұрын
"The Mien of Malice", would have been a better title.
@patriciarouse2801
@patriciarouse2801 3 жыл бұрын
Being mentally dficient is not a crime. Crime is crime.
@250txc
@250txc 2 жыл бұрын
28:50 -- You have NO idea on how this kelley person had on his mind ... You, mr speaker, are making all this sound like some event with HS kids.
@millsbuckss
@millsbuckss 4 жыл бұрын
Got up to 4:31 couldn’t go on it’s all rehashed info from the past Sorry to say this is not for people who know a little about the Nazi era
@anng.4542
@anng.4542 4 жыл бұрын
That's your problem. All the good stuff happened AFTER 4:31.
@millsbuckss
@millsbuckss 4 жыл бұрын
Ann G. Good stuff? Oh deary me There’s more excitement in a funeral parlour I’m glad you enjoyed the “good stuff” 🤣😂😁
@commissary4196
@commissary4196 Ай бұрын
lol it doesn’t even begin by then
@johnferguson7235
@johnferguson7235 6 жыл бұрын
In the near future, judges will need to have training is psychiatry and education on mental illness.
@zoltanz288
@zoltanz288 5 жыл бұрын
John Ferguson More likely the laws will have to be changed.
@dr.barrycohn5461
@dr.barrycohn5461 3 жыл бұрын
I give the Rorschach test. It is one of the best of all psychological tests. No, the test is a statistically empirical test nowadays.
@TheDavidlloydjones
@TheDavidlloydjones 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think "statistically empirical" has the meaning you seem to assume it has. Your assessment is spavined even before we get around to looking at the Rorschach itself. Hell, it's not even clear that you know how to use the word "no" in context, Doctor. Whose assertion of what are you trying to contradict?
@dr.barrycohn5461
@dr.barrycohn5461 2 жыл бұрын
@Simon Archbolddon't let your ignorance be so easily exposed. Send self yourself back to the literature for refresher.
@seanluby
@seanluby Жыл бұрын
Fascinating first half. I wish the good doctor could answer a question directly. I didn't check the date of this, so ...."What would you have done differently"? Followed by word misdirection Penn & Teller would be impressed by
@nathanraythomas1784
@nathanraythomas1784 2 жыл бұрын
The visual presentations were horrible...and that's only the start. He didn't mention the innate anti-Semitism that saturated German speaking culture that existed before Bismark united the modern German state and still exists in Germany, although diminished. Perhaps he should have spent more time talking about the malevolent sadism present in some Germans during the Nazi era who had been stewing over the poverty in Germany since the Great War and were ready to exhale their hate on the immigrants, gypsies, and, oh yes, the Jews. Okay, that's a start. Sadly, the speaker didn't mention any of these.
@richardisaacs567
@richardisaacs567 4 жыл бұрын
Hard to believe he's a professor of such high regard, should be able to lecture without having to read off a piece of paper like a robot.
@amyanderson4099
@amyanderson4099 2 жыл бұрын
yeah..reading! 😲
@ba9898
@ba9898 8 ай бұрын
@@amyanderson4099 His lecture is a bunch of nothing.
@carnivalminds
@carnivalminds 2 жыл бұрын
The audio for this presentation is what this channel and museum should strive for. I really like the channel but find some of the content unlistenable.
@humanearthling4661
@humanearthling4661 4 жыл бұрын
Nazis are Depraved psychopathic criminals that have become evil through the practice of their depravity for centuries. They hail out of the bloodlines that call themselves "the black Nobility bloodlines" and they always act through agents, representatives and whatever else their minions can be called who do their dirty work while they remain pristine and hidden behind walls of secrecy with the reins of control strongly and forever in their hands. the Roman Empire never fell; it simply went black; that is, underground; that is, it became all but invisible and functioned in secret. AND most of their recruits (minions, agents, et al...) are also deranged psycopaths who have learned to wear the mask of sanity. Well, look around......look at what the world has become in their hands. Does it seem like a sane world to you? I rest my case.
@jodalinkus5538
@jodalinkus5538 4 жыл бұрын
You could argue there could have been a more eclectic strata selected to explicate the inner mechanism of this feral Naci regime.
@kenzeier2943
@kenzeier2943 3 жыл бұрын
The good doctor quoted the Bible well here’s another quote from the Bible it goes like this -the heart is desperately wicked and deceitful who can know it -a paraphrased
@nicktrice3129
@nicktrice3129 3 жыл бұрын
Jeremiah
@Sp84245
@Sp84245 Жыл бұрын
Although lengthy, this is a very detailed account of nazi war criminals worth careful viewing. His position at MGH and his academic background as well as the duration of his research into this subject all support his stature as an authority figure. His delivery requires your attention but the content is provocative and engenders thoughtful consideration
@temisis9081
@temisis9081 2 жыл бұрын
My grandfather died in a Nazi concentration camp... He got drunk n fell from ze watchtower...
@angeladay9073
@angeladay9073 2 жыл бұрын
Yes very interesting, to note,... their mental health status,...how they saw themselves, as the hardened people Hitler's ranks of His officials, thankyou.
@ShaneBermingham616
@ShaneBermingham616 5 жыл бұрын
This guy's delivery of information is painfully boring
@penguin8797
@penguin8797 5 жыл бұрын
watch it at 1.5X speed.... huge improvement
@mididoctors
@mididoctors 3 жыл бұрын
It's ok but is broken up with long pauses that make the narrative broken
@nanteb.4605
@nanteb.4605 2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣
@annalisette5897
@annalisette5897 7 жыл бұрын
[My comment here is rather superficial. There is a very informative reply below which is well worth reading.] Maybe an important point is being missed. Psychopathy tends to be narcissistic, if it feels good to the psychopath it is OK because s/he cannot feel empathy. Nazis committed unacceptable crimes but they did if for love of Germany. The horrific condition of Germany after WWI, the Treaty of Versailles, etc. needed drastic measures to aid recovery. Nazis focused public attentions on scapegoats, Jews first but also Slavs, Romany, Jehovah's Witnesses, homosexuals and others. When resources were dwindling, the physically and mentally disabled were euthanised as "life undeserving of life." In expressing love for the fatherland and intense desire for the rebuilding of the country, hatred and malice against perceived enemies became uniting forces.~~~I am NOT defending the Nazis. I just think this is another facet for study.
@harveybrown37
@harveybrown37 3 жыл бұрын
The Jews were not first. Their political adversaries-communists, democratic socialist, monarchists- and bedfellows (the SA) were first
@littlefluffybushbaby7256
@littlefluffybushbaby7256 2 жыл бұрын
I realize this is from four years ago but someone else might read my comment. There are so many things wrong with what you've said but I'll just remark on one because it's repeated over and over and just isn't true. The Treaty of Versailles did not bring the Nazis to power nor cause WW2. 1. The treaty was 1919. Hitler tried a putsch in 1923 and it failed miserably. The Nazis were a very minor party for all of the 1920's and into the early 1930's. He only came to power 14 years after the treaty. If Versailles was the cause, how come it took so long? 2. Although on paper the treaty was harsh, in reality in wasn't because it was continuously renegotiated and Germany wasn't actually paying anything like what they were supposed to be paying. 3. Germany lost land but nothing like what they took from the Soviet Union in the Treaty Of Brest-Litovsk and also not as much as Germany intended to take from the west had they won the war. Much of the land they lost in Europe was actually land they'd gained in previous wars with Denmark and France. From their perspective Germany wasn't losing land but merely giving it back. They lost their colonies, as did all European powers eventually, but if you read about Namibia that was not such a bad thing. 4. Before the depression Germany was going through something of a boom time. 5. Germany had it's military wings clipped, but not only was that understandable (if you've just had a gunfight with someone you'd have to be some kind of stupid to let them keep their gun), but actually helped Germany with economic recovery. Anyway, it wasn't soon before Germany was re-arming (well before Hitler) but by doing much of the work in Sweden and Russia and by using means not covered by the treaty. 6. Although Germany did finish making reparation payments a few years back it should be remembered it was around the time the British made their final war loan repayments. 7. During it's occupation of, and retreat from, Northern France and Belgium the Germans caused massive destruction. Is there serious doubt that, had the French devasted Germany in the same way and then lost, the Germans would not have demanded reparations? If not, can anyone explain the transfer of the eastern French provinces after the Franco-Prussian war (without going into the history of the Holy Roman Empire). There is so much more to say but please, I urge people to look into it, because it's the "we were a victim" explanation repeated over and over again is just not factually correct. Claims of being the "victim" has possibly led to more harm than anything else. It's something we learn at Kindergarden. It's what the Nazis capitalized upon, and is also used nowadays as in this comment above. Just because someone shouts "unfair" doesn't necessarilly mean they are themselves being fair. Don't believe the hype.
@annalisette5897
@annalisette5897 2 жыл бұрын
@@littlefluffybushbaby7256 Thank you for your informative reply. I'm still here, 4 years later. My original comment was a superficial opinion inviting replies. Recently I have been watching a channel called TIK which goes into every facet of Hitler's career and indeed there are many roots. Something else I did not fully appreciate when I first wrote is that Hitler's ethnic or racial ideas ran deep and throughout. I will leave my comment as is because it is a good lead for what you have written.
@littlefluffybushbaby7256
@littlefluffybushbaby7256 2 жыл бұрын
@@annalisette5897 Yep, TIK is good (if a little intense Ha ha). Sorry for jumping on you but, well, you can see why. The most worrying thing about the whole nazis period was the banality of it all. A lot of brutal things were done, not just by devoted nazis, but often by ordinary folk. It's not particular nationalities or ideologies but actually something nearly all of us are capable of under the right circumstances. That is more frightening than any particular nazi.
@annalisette5897
@annalisette5897 2 жыл бұрын
@@littlefluffybushbaby7256 YES! I have written similar comments in other places. I love to learn and am always glad for corrections and the privilege of learning more.
@adielstephenson2929
@adielstephenson2929 4 жыл бұрын
This guy doesn't half drivel on. Unwatchable.
@uploadJ
@uploadJ 4 жыл бұрын
1.5x playback speed is your friend, too.
@sanctifiedink6802
@sanctifiedink6802 3 жыл бұрын
That worked great
@alvarengahenrique
@alvarengahenrique 2 жыл бұрын
Bobagens, queria dados reais. Não perca seu tempo assistindo este blá blá.
@jeffcop1
@jeffcop1 3 жыл бұрын
He may be clever, but is so boring I nearly fell asleep. He only became animated a little more interesting in the Q and A.
@nanteb.4605
@nanteb.4605 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine going to college and listen to this one for 4 yrs. U slow down too.
@truthercat9421
@truthercat9421 4 жыл бұрын
Note of interest....Kelly committed suicide
@davidlixenberg5999
@davidlixenberg5999 2 жыл бұрын
The speaker told us that Kelly had, like Goering's 40 suitcases of stolen treasures, a collection of Nazi memorabilia ... This doesn't speak well of Kelly. OTOH, our speaker has adjudged Kelly as astute in his evaluations. I found that to be very important. David Lixenberg
@valerieobrien5521
@valerieobrien5521 2 жыл бұрын
Perhaps it's still going on but this time with vaccines ?
@federalagenciesarecourtesans
@federalagenciesarecourtesans 2 жыл бұрын
The American Federal Agencies do the very same, no different.
@JoeZamecki
@JoeZamecki 2 жыл бұрын
Crap video ruined by commercials.
@larryclevenger7228
@larryclevenger7228 2 жыл бұрын
,,,,,
@andreasandreotti4492
@andreasandreotti4492 2 жыл бұрын
Try to leture about USA crimes against other nations after WWII!!!!!
@250txc
@250txc 4 жыл бұрын
This group of people are lucky they survived to pollute the earth today.
@maryshaffer8474
@maryshaffer8474 Жыл бұрын
They tried Germans not Ukrainian or Polish.
@Pookleberry
@Pookleberry 2 жыл бұрын
"um, er, oh, um, er, er"........way too many 'gimlets'. Made the lecture a boring. Needs to brush up on his rhetoric. Otherwise a good lecture
@xys7536
@xys7536 Жыл бұрын
Waist of time
@zoltanz288
@zoltanz288 5 жыл бұрын
Bullshit.
@coimbralaw
@coimbralaw 2 жыл бұрын
When did you become a bloodthirsty genocidal antisemitic racist lunatic? Did your parents raised you to be that way?
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