The Anti Baby-Killing Movement in Japan

[@Linfamy]

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[@Buby39]

Yay

[@rakiahbaker5589]

😇👶🏼👼🏼😇

[@jakeegan3195]

One like equals one less Mabiki let’s make Japan great again

[@donnagoldsmith7078]

I think the answer is Hakata Bay, as usual a great video Linfamy, I wish you could upload every day!

[@Soundwave142]

Abortion and contraception = infanticide. Mabiki= infanticide. What’s the difference? Thanks for the informative video Linfamy!

[@Lo-vp4nl]

“Your parents should have sent you back” - some 1800 Japanese bully, probably

[@Bloodlyshiva]

Also 18xx samurai taunting during wartime, probably.

[@giovannicorraliza8552]

Please no

[@driftingdruid]

they still judge and bully people by saying how much of a burden you must be on your parents

[@fingerboxes]

There's a curse in Yiddish that says "A small child should be named after you." Sounds nice until you realize that Ashkenazi Jews only name children after the dead. And there's another good one that says "He should be a chandelier to hang all day and burn all night." If you really want to bully someone just find a list of Yiddish curses, you're sure to find something creative and rude enough to make them remember it the rest of their lives.

[@gwammeh]

“Even animals take care of their young!” Spoken like somebody who has never met a rabbit or a hamster.

[@КенниКендалл]

There is no native species of rabbits in japan (at least the big islands didn’t before exposure to westerners)

[@introspectiver1787]

@@КенниКендалл There is a native hare species, and hares have similar enough habits to rabbits

[@priestesslucy]

Rabbits totally take care of their young. Until about 4 weeks

[@ellerikke3948]

Fish eat their own fry.

[@henkkahenrik4183]

@@priestesslucy exept when the mama rabbit gets too stressed and decides that the babies look cute enough to eat - literally, and decides to nom nom the babies... XD

[@Marbo12f]

"Murdering your baby is bad karma when you think about it." - Buddhist Monk

[@richierens]

Its true in other country lol, in old Japan they dont consider a newborn as a person, they dont even make monuments for the babies they "sent back" to spirit world ~ except in some temple/ pagoda and this shjt still happen nowaday.

[@wannabehistorian371]

@@richierens ...No it’s not?

[@wannabehistorian371]

@@aisulubegalyyeva4565 I meant the “this shjt still happen today” part.

[@aisulubegalyyeva4565]

@@wannabehistorian371 ohh, i see, sorry for misunderstanding ㅇㄴㅇ

[@limousinecar230]

Making your baby starving to death is even worse even when you dont have to think about it

[@arthurdowney2846]

Mabiki baby gets Isekai'd as OP protagonist in a fantasy realm. She has a crippling fear of drowning but doesn't quite know why.

[@minhkhangtran6948]

That actually would sound interesting as a premise, though I think the protag being a literal newborn when they get Isekai'ed wouldn't help much with the Isekai aspect, unless the story does tell that their place of origin is important. Overall though, sould like something that would be completely ignore like the next chapter later

[@fiendish9474]

Sees a glass of water and immediately goes into catatonic breakdown

[@boslyporshy6553]

@@minhkhangtran6948 It could work if the isekai world evolved differently from the original world. The isekai child's growth being foreign to denizens of the isekai world would be interesting.

[@2MeterLP]

If it happens during infancy, thats just a fantasy story, not isekai.

[@philthephilosopher9235]

@@minhkhangtran6948 Perhaps she was reborn into the other world as a baby and raised there.

[@saueqietrollageposting1477]

I know no one will probably see this comment, but I felt the need to share this. My great, great, great grandfather, Matsukata Masayoshi, was against this practice himself and created an orphanage in Beppu meant for children who would have been killed from infanticide, mabiki. The orphanage was a great success, and tens of babies who would have been killed at birth grew up into strong, healthy children. The children of the orphanage actually grew up to be stronger and healthier than other children, and so many families adopted the children.

[@sophierobinson2738]

❤️

[@bruin730]

That's amazing!

[@BlackSeranna]

Your grandfather was a good man!

[@biazacha]

That’s heartwarming! Bless him, all it takes is one person deciding to do the right thing. I wonder how many of those kids were adopted by their own parents after they successfully grew up healthy.

[@Mike-xh2vm]

Amazing, I hope People will do the same nowadays and stand up againts the murder of babies in the western world happening even today.

[@trevorgurley5632]

And who would have guessed that this current population crisis is not Japan’s first one 😑

[@priestesslucy]

Technically that one wasn't a crisis. A stable population is better than a growing population.

[@GarkKahn]

Yes but maybe they were worried that stable population was going to decrease later if left unchecked... i don't know

[@SmartassEyebrows]

@@priestesslucy Economies that use debt require a growing population to remain stable. That is why western countries, which have native negative growth rates (including the US) push for immigration so hard so their overall growth rates remain positive. It's what keeps the economy from imploding.

[@priestesslucy]

@@SmartassEyebrows you can't sustain growth forever. Honestly the US would probably be better off with 100-200 million residents.

[@livelovelife32]

@@priestesslucy Isn't the US so big that it takes ages to drive from one part to another and a car is a necessity? I mean doesn't the country have enough space and then some? Idk I feel the major problem is everyone crowding in the cities and that's the pics always flashed in everyone's faces. I just feel that if the population spread out more (not just in the US but in other countries as well especially in China) over-population won't be a thing. Everyone just keeps crowding like ants in the cities. Hopefully with a lot of jobs becoming remote people can move around more.

[@Zeldafan1ify]

"Who said that death was bad for my boys?? Mind your own business!!" - Karin, edo period

[@willowtdog6449]

💯

[@alejandromolina7270]

"This is terrible. Society's collapsing. However will we invent anime?" The most important contribution to Japan's society.

[@monad_tcp]

and likely the reason it caused its population decline again

[@Infinitebrandon]

Don't forget video games😉

[@thanakonpraepanich4284]

@@monad_tcp What is happening in Japanese AV market when hentai outsold human AV films three to one? Do hentai offer things no human AV can hope to compete? And is marriage in Japan consider the financial Armageddon like it does among blacks in the US?

[@dshock85]

neh...the world

[@Infinitebrandon]

@Cat Fox what's tr808, precious?

[@briane6957]

" Sir, where is your child?" Me: He went to the Liquor store...and hasn't come back....for 3 years now. :)

[@Linfamy]

Sent my other kid to find that one, and he also hasn't returned.

[@aoisora8561]

And I went to search for them but only returned with milk

[@briane6957]

@@Linfamy I'm sure they'll have some crazy story when they get back, officer. Hehe. You know kids.

[@dalevaughn9446]

@@aoisora8561 Those two lovers would have loved & cherished they're children. The fruits of love for one another!!!. ( AKI & SORA AOI).

[@bigfotpeesonyoutube9647]

That shame bit reminds me of a joke. An English guy, a French guy and a Japanese guy were out walking and they came to a lake full of beautiful naked women beckoning them in. The English guy stripped naked, covered his richard with his hands and jumped in. The French guy stripped down and jumped in, not a care in the world. The Japanese guy stripped naked, covered his face with his hands and jumped in. After a while, they got out, put their clothes back on and went on their way. The English guy and the French guy both turned to their Japanese buddy and asked why he covered his face before jumping in with the women. He simply answered "I didn't want anybody to recognize who I was."

[@shanedoesyoutube8001]

"nobody cared who I was until I put the mask on" I sense

[@bigfotpeesonyoutube9647]

@@shanedoesyoutube8001 Kind of the opposite and for the entirety of the poor guy's life. Shame is a big thing out east.

[@shanedoesyoutube8001]

@@bigfotpeesonyoutube9647 I imagine they'd relate heavily when watching that one scene from HBO Rome *"Shame* on the house of Ptolemy for such barbarity. *Shame"*

[@AM22Salabok]

Don't really get how this is a joke, sounds like japanese guy did the sensible thing lol

[@bigfotpeesonyoutube9647]

@@AM22Salabok It's more of an explanation of behavior that somebody once told me. Then again, she was a rich girl from a family with a few skeletons in the closet, so I think that it was more her trying to justify things to herself.

[@J_Gamble]

Strange how having food and a decent place to live makes a couple want to keep their babies. Oh wait...some things never change.

[@irondragonmaiden]

And also get rid of the stigma surrounding getting a helping hand to keep getting food and a decent place to stay, since mabiki continued even when the welfare coffers opened because they would rather kill their baby than "get a handout"

[@foggyfrogy]

The mayority of people today have more to eat and a more stable home than people back then...

[@UshioKiss]

@Reinhard von Lohengramm The reason poor people tend to have more kids usually has to do with 1) culture and 2) lack of access to education and birth control. It's not universal but it does affect it. To be honest though you will be hard pressed to find a family in the US with more than 4 kids per household even among the poor. Homes with more kids are usually like that because of religion or just because the couple wants to. That's just my impressions though.

[@disunityholychaos7523]

Yeah like that quicerful movement? Poly Mormons? And even though my family fee gens ago were poor but got back staple middle class (grandma & grandpa raised 9 kids one of them my dad) each now grown up siblings had 1-2 kids except for my uncle a womanizer had 3 scattered kids. The other alcoholic uncle now reaching his 60s had 3 kids this was in the Philippines yet the rest. 2-3 siblings did not have children and meanwhile my dad and I only daughter won’t raise kids as the costs of living be medical, housing, education, everyday expenses and debts been hard and playing smart as all of the fam college graduates won’t risk big families

[@UshioKiss]

@Reinhard von Lohengramm Rather than low impulse control I think the way poor people are raised and the way they live makes them more likely to have kids. Living in poverty or just poorer is a cycle that's hard to escape for many reasons. It's very nuanced I think, and hard to succinctly describe it. My views are a bit more complex since I originally commented on this video too.

[@Dashin15]

I liked that you mentioned that multiple civilizations practiced the ancient art of baby killing. The first Mabiki video reminded me of what the Spartans did. If a baby did not meet their standards they left it on a hill outside the city to die. Often times a slave would find the baby and raise it, and then the abandobed Spartan baby would become a slave for other Spartans. Something like 1/3 of Spartan slaves were rejected Spartans.

[@chinemapictures]

They did that to my brother, Alexios, and I traveled across Greece looking for him after I learned he survived.

[@andrewpatton5114]

Christianity took over the Roman Empire mostly because Christians not only did not expose their own children, but also rescued children exposed by pagans.

[@MsrFaqihah]

Wow, it seems like nature selection at ancient time.

[@petergeramin7195]

@@chinemapictures What are you talking about

[@stoictraceur4794]

Hahaha. Nice one, Kassandra!

[@shelbyandrews9749]

"who knew that killing babies would equal less people" Best line of gallows humour I've heard this year. Made me lol

[@TVwriter23]

China only just realized the havoc this has caused. It's messed up how the newer child policies almost parallel.

[@penelopeisgoingofftopic6786]

“shame. the secret to asian compliance” “fear and punishment. the secret to western compliance” XDDDD these jokes land so smooth i almost don't notice

[@meneither3834]

Eh it's innacurate, if the secret to asian complicance is shame, the western's one is guilt.

[@rynfornow3411]

@@meneither3834​​⁠​⁠ “Do x and you’ll burn in hell” Seriously, all my child Christian books are basically like that. Never heard of “Don’t do bad things, or you’ll feel bad :(“

[@TheEverFreeKing]

None of mine were like that 🤔 Most of them were focused on the fact you'll feel guilty and that Jesus loves you and you should try your best to make him proud.​@@rynfornow3411

[@thebaldcat6708]

Japan: *Kills babies* Japan’s population: *Shrinks* Japan: Oh mY KamI! WhY iS tHiS haPPeNinG?!!?!??!!??!?!?!

[@Lemuel928]

That’s Mankind’s Extinction.

[@azazel166]

Japan: *Grown ups work all day and night and have no time to have babies* Japan's population: *Shrinks once again* Japan: Why is this happening again, guys, and why are our grown up serv.... we mean people suddenly start dying?!!?!??!!??!?!?! I'm going to every hell for this.

[@marthmallow7420]

@@azazel166 but it’s true 👀

[@Manas-co8wl]

@@azazel166 You don't go to hell for stating absolute facts

[@bushy9780]

How could such a terrible practice have such a fun sounding name? Mabiki sounds like some sort of board game.

[@nippon2003]

Maybe they had fun

[@bigfotpeesonyoutube9647]

I mean, maybe it could be made into a board game?

[@Linfamy]

Mabiki, fun for the whole family.

[@bigfotpeesonyoutube9647]

@@Linfamy Kind of like The Game of Life, except your options are severely limited and the game ends a lot quicker.

[@joannamysluk8623]

@@bigfotpeesonyoutube9647 Mabiki is actually an agricultural term, maybe we could have a board game based on the agricultural meaning?

[@dawnmana5876]

As a mother, I just cant comprehend looking at a newborns face after feeling it move and giving birth. Now a toddler? I can TOTALLY understand the temptation to send it back...and demand a refund.

[@Linfamy]

😅

[@labellafleur6262]

Wait till it's a teenager...

[@dawnmana5876]

@@Linfamy toddlers are a**holes. Change my mind. You can literally ruin their day by giving them the cup they asked for. Lol

[@dawnmana5876]

@@labellafleur6262 then you nuke it.

[@dawnmana5876]

@{𝒯𝒽𝑒 𝒮𝒾𝓁𝓋𝑒𝓇 𝑀𝑜𝑜𝓃} ...do you understand jokes?

[@NiaJustNia]

And now people in Japan don't have the time or finances for babies because there's so much pressure on working constantly until you're so exhausted you get physically ill.

[@Alias_Anybody]

Well let's thank the Shinto Gods they saved anime after all!

[@dillhouston8941]

It seems Buddha had a helping hand at least

[@shanedoesyoutube8001]

@@dillhouston8941 yeah, never y'all dare forget about the Shinto Buddhist syncretism

[@whathell6t]

@@dillhouston8941 Basically, this is Virgo Shaka’s doing.

[@danieldeelite]

You mean humans

[@shanedoesyoutube8001]

@@danieldeelite ain't gonna do shit without blessings from God(s)

[@Foogi9000]

When *Dababy* doesn't get Mabiki: Let's Gooooo.

[@pregnantsonic9567]

Dababy 🥰🥰🥰🥰😍😍☺️☺️☺️☺️🥵🥵😍😍😍😍

[@echidnanatsuki882]

Dababy

[@Jb3rt_133]

👉😂👈 Llleeessss ggggoooo

[@marthmallow7420]

**bebe**

[@dirckthedork-knight1201]

"Japan was enthusiastically spreading its culture to other asian countries at the time" Ohohoho i see what you did there Lin

[@dalevaughn9446]

I.J.A. Was having a field day. HA HA!!!.

[@EyeDee98]

I heard that and thought “ok, well I guess that’s one way to put it” lol

[@emilybarclay8831]

I love imagining the top scholars of the time getting around a round kotatsu and passionately arguing how to increase the population: Bobunaga: we need to stop old people dying! That way the population will stay stable! Jonunaga: how about we just stop killing our kids? Bobunaga: Bobunaga: anyways, I suggest hooking up all over 50s to life support, we can’t let the population down! On my 25 dead kids I shan’t fail!

[@shanedoesyoutube8001]

Oh shit now there's jobunaga???

[@emilybarclay8831]

@@shanedoesyoutube8001 jonunaga and bobunaga are cousins

[@hoominbeeing]

@@shanedoesyoutube8001 Joe Mama?

[@dcscruz2970]

So the birthdate being low is quite a cultural common problem in Japan even now. Quite ironic

[@downey2294]

birthrate*

[@McSnezzly]

Yeah. When government cares more about keeping up traditions than the health of their own people, no wonder the population goes down

[@downey2294]

@@McSnezzly lol, what is that based on? the Japanese government is very much concerned with the health of their people. its the people themself that subscribe to a culture that is self destructive.

[@dcscruz2970]

@@downey2294 I think is the culture when it comes to work and relationships. For example, you must be introduced to others by a mutual mostly and the work culture keeps people mostly cooped in their jobs more than half of their life. So they have little time to socialize and find a lover to make babies with. As an effect they go on the simulation technology to fill that gap on their lives.

[@heath6802]

Hard to have a family when you’re being overworked by the company you’re employed by...

[@hugar3499]

A spirit who just got mabikied 3 times in a row and is being reborn again: "Well that sucked, but maybe this family will keep me and cherish me with all their hea-" Mother: "Watch me yeet this lil turd" Spirit: "Aww shit, here we go again..."

[@majabajric2310]

😂

[@whimsicalhamster88]

Oh man, when you said “They dabbled in it to prove they were edgy” I laughed way too hard. Love your sense of humor. The old Japanese artwork is way more interesting than anything from Europe at the same time. That baby afterlife of them murdering their Mabiki moms was intense.

[@stutighoshal2946]

Imagine Linfamy as a history teacher, standing in front of a class. :')

[@Linfamy]

Then suddenly starts singing karaoke.

[@tokyoyume]

@@Linfamy lmao

[@KuromiScarlet5030]

@@Linfamy lmfao

[@puppylove126]

Aww, the cute little guy that's animated. ☺️

[@threeeyedgoddess7635]

my dad used to say "there's humor in the blackest tragedy" and god damn, I was laughing my ass off through all the baby killing

[@marthmallow7420]

- some person in the edo period, probably (joking)

[@jeanfalconer6377]

Said it before, will say it again. very grateful for modern contraceptives.

[@bayaryan7942]

But you are still sinners

[@Lemuel928]

They’re aware killing the young innocent is a sin.

[@facelesstrader1351]

But women, especially in the western world, think abortion is some sort of contraceptives. Even saying it's just a blob of cells. Around 300,000-800,000 abortion per year in USA.

[@lainiwakura1776]

@@facelesstrader1351 Don't do this shit here.

[@facelesstrader1351]

@@lainiwakura1776 Yeah, pointing out abortion is killing babies is shit.

[@KamilleBidanApologist]

“Shame - the secret to Asian compliance” Good lord, I’m glad I found this channel! 😂

[@JacquesLapeyre]

The technological development of effective contraceptives essentially ends the law of supply and demand (aka the law of dead babies), as a law which justifies economic stratification.

[@DCAreaAntiAbortionAdvocacy]

I'm afraid that's a popular misconception, manufactured by the birth control industry and the eugenics movement. Tell millions of people that if they swallow a pill or wear a condom they can have all the sex they want without any pregnancies, you're going to have a LOT more sex happening than before ... and as a result more unwanted babies than ever before (because birth control is never 100% effective and people using birth control are not mentally prepared to be parents). That's why the rise in modern abortion followed the rise in the proliferation of birth control.

[@JacquesLapeyre]

@@DCAreaAntiAbortionAdvocacy I used to say the same poorly sourced nonsense. hell I used to believe Planned Parenthood was a satanic cabal of baby murders. But the "pro-life" movement is so full of lies and bs I can't take any of you people seriously. See I took history in college and studied the political rise of fascism and socialism in Europe in the 20th century and know from the horses mouth that they wanted to do away with abortion and all forms of birth control because they wanted cannon fodder for their endless wars. It's not theory, it's not hyperbole.

[@cortster12]

@@JacquesLapeyre Both movements are full of lies. Pro birth and pro life. They're both propaganda, trying to push the extremes of both viewpoints. The truth is somewhere in the middle. Abortion is a necessary evil in certain circumstances, but don't make the mistake of thinking it isn't a tragedy. Because it still is tragic, just as miscarrigages are tragic. The only difference between an abortion and miscarriage is how wanted the child was. Which doesn't sit well with me. I've convinced in a few decades frivolous abortion will be treated in the same scorn as infant killing is today in most countries. Abortion should be saved for medical, rape, and age related reasons.

[@PaladinDusty]

@@cortster12 I think abortion should be like a Spidey save: everybody gets one. No questions asked, if you need an abortion, go get one. If you want another one, it has to be for medical reasons or rape. Even if it isn't, you can still have your second abortion, but if it wasn't due to medical or rape, you also get a tubal ligation. We have fewer unwanted babies, but we still work towards more personal responsibility. The whole concept of doing whatever you want without accountability being equated with freedom is pure childishness.

[@jatnarivas8741]

@cortster12 I think that the difference between abortion and miscarriage is another one: in an abortion, the offspring is intentionally killed, while in a miscarriage it spontaneously dies. It's the difference between being tripped on purpose or by accident. Miscarriages can happen in unwanted pregnancies, and abortions can be performed on wanted pregnancies. Comes to mind a story told by a nurse who used to work for Gosnell at an abortion facility. A teen pregnancy, incest at that. The mother and the grandmother wanted the girl to have an abortion, because they wanted to cover up the father. The teenager didn't want an abortion. She told the doctor. The doctor and the family insisted that that was best for her, pinned her down to perform it. Suddenly she got up and ran with the speculum still inside her and started to bleed. Ultimately the Dr decided he wasn't going to perform that one and that the girl needed to be taken to the ER.

[@Endymion766]

these days, we just turn into geeks to prevent having children we cant afford. We save the babies by not having them in the first place.

[@claudy_sky]

In my place, this "practice" still existed in the 60s, but they usually spared the females and not the males. As always, thank you, that was very interesting! Also, that editing at 7:58 had me dying. x'D

[@HisameArtwork]

from your name you seem italian? you got me curious, what place are you talking about?

[@ishitaananya8649]

Where are you from,if you don't mind telling? It's fascinating to hear that in your region girls were spared and not boys because in Asia generally (particularly where I am from,India) boys are considered more desirable and female infants are more likely to be killed/aborted.It is so much of a problem that the both India and China have laws in place to discourage from the practice and have regions with very skewed sex ratios.

[@ordo3k4os]

@@HisameArtwork as an italian i can assure that baby killing was not that spread at all .Even since during fascist era , the italian criminal code for baby killing condemn the mother up to 12 years of jailtime and others to at least 21 years .catholic church considered it a capital sin, not forgivable

[@kristingallo2158]

@@HisameArtwork definitely is not common in Italian culture. Boys and girls were both cared for. Traditional italians don't believe in abortion either. A baby was considered a blessing regardless and there were even laws where a rapist would have to support that child and mother.

[@claudy_sky]

Yes, I am Italian and I was referring to the small town in southern Italy where I was born. There was this sort of religious fear, of course, but during the post-war period, people had gotten into the habit of killing newborn babies to avoid starving to death. Females were considered more "valuable" than males because they had a better chance of marrying rich men. Eh, many of the old ladies I knew growing up only had sisters for that very reason. Absolutely not a common practice in Italy, I should have specified, pardon! -_-"

[@fantasion_voidv.4412]

I lost this channel a few months ago and I'm so glad i found it again. Glad you are still making awesome videos.

[@Linfamy]

Did you find me under the couch?

[@KuromiScarlet5030]

@@Linfamy lmao

[@jatnarivas8741]

You don't lose it of you subscribe

[@Twilekmaniac]

5:22 Reminds me of the small towns in Japan (and around the world) that are currently paying people to move to them so they don't completely disappear

[@bugfighter5949]

Early Edo: 2 children is enough Europe: WE GOTTA REACH 10 BEFORE YOUR COUSIN IT'S GONNA BE SICK !

[@andrewpatton5114]

How do you think Christians took over the Roman Empire? Sure, conversions accounted for some of it, but mostly, it was Christians having children when pagans wouldn't, and Christians adopting children that pagans abandoned. Christians having more children overwhelmed any attempt by pagans to persecute them, to say nothing of the testimony of the martyrs winning converts faster than the persecutors could kill them.

[@vehx9316]

ah yes, the one thing that can ever get politicians to care about something : If we don't do something there won't be anymore wage slaves and taxes revenues.

[@jaime_lynn]

Cultured Mama here just wants to know what the info-mercial looked like for ‘Save the Baybehs.”

[@GhostDragon934]

Were there any problems if it was discovered that they killed the child but reported it as a miscarriage like being shamed for it or anything?

[@Serjo777]

I'd like to know that too.

[@Linfamy]

Yes. The punishments varied depending on the domain/region. Punishments were mostly light. Fines were common, from small to large. Severe punishments were rare, but included: - Demotion or removal from government office - Public shame. E.g. forehead tattoo, shaving mom's hair, shaving dad's eyebrows. - Banishment - Reducing the offender to "outcaste" status - One woman had her nose cut off (seems to be the worst punishment on record)

[@oilylondon]

:O how did you get the green icon

[@bittersweetorpheus]

@@oilylondon he's a member

[@oilylondon]

@@bittersweetorpheus :000

[@MrMrx123456789]

Guys responsible for extreme birth control: "The Babies shall be sent back to the heavens!" *Meanwhile in the afterlife* Guys responsible for extreme birth control: "Am I in the spirit world?" Kami: "No...Much Worse." Aborted Babies: *Armed with clubs and Katana*

[@jashardwallington]

Guys I'm in danger

[@izzfitri6888]

"Uhhh...... Let's talk about this" NO

[@k.katona9415]

Your jokes are just too good, sometimes I even have to rewind a bit because *wait no, he couldn't have said that...* then burst out laughing :D

[@schizophreniagaming1187]

"Make the birthing cries of babies ring from all directions" This guy is way too ahead of his time

[@unapatton1978]

I heard privately of German women killing their youngest during WW2. Sometimes they were the results of rape, but as it was hard enough to feed the children they had, and a baby would hinder the mother on either fleeing from or to somewhere and all the other survival stuff... I have never heard of official records though.

[@driftingdruid]

4:36 "One domain gave newlyweds abandoned land, building materials, and tax exemptions for a few years." Sounds like the plot of a two-person, survival-crafting, life sim, co-op game with befriending neighbors and baby-rearing involved

[@velvety2006]

100 baby challenge but with one partner lol

[@Buby39]

Alternative title: *DONT TOUCH THE CHILD*

[@mitcheltheuselesscommenter1591]

*INTENSE ARGUING*

[@sharkronical]

*WHO TOUCHED THE CHILD*

[@Jemesrion]

@@sharkronical 👉👉🏻👉🏼👉🏽👉🏾👉🏿👘

[@cadabreon6743]

*AGGRESIVE SHITTING*

[@ashlanders687]

Let's hope the lolicons don't see this

[@dostagirl9551]

Wow. I thought the low Japanese birth rate was a relatively new phenomenon brought about by women entering the work force and grueling hours to make a living wage, but it turns out this is an issue they've dealt with for generations upon generations.

[@taekwongurl]

TIL edge lords existed in central Japan when it came to mabiki.

[@ifoundapeanut]

Answer: Hakata Bay

[@ofirarnon2227]

This video is so interesting and well made. And the humor is on spot. Thank you!!

[@Skyler-uv1tz]

I laughed so hard when i realized what you meant by “the final nail in the tiny coffin.”

[@funnatopia704]

It’s said that contraceptives becoming widely available is the reason infanticide became somewhat of a distant memory. Turns out, people are less likely to murder unwanted babies if they have the means to prevent pregnancy in the first place.

[@user-jn5ed2hh7r]

hello, I just wanted to say that your video really make my day it's fun, weird,interesting and amazing almost everytime I watch you video I learn something new!, please be safe and stay safe 💕.

[@Linfamy]

Thanks! I appreciate it ;)

[@user-jn5ed2hh7r]

@@Linfamy np! have a good day!.

[@thebaldcat6708]

@@Linfamy hakata bay is the answer

[@carolinebarrett4736]

So glad I watched these videos alone! Pmsl 🤣 at his description, then feeling horrified about what I’m laughing at 😆 Excellent, excellent channel! Very captivating narrator- instant subscription 🥰

[@b1ngnx33]

Your sense of humour and writing is EXCELLENT!!!!! THANK YOU!!!! SPREAD THE KNOWLEDGE!!!!

[@smudgerat9624]

I found both of these videos really interesting - I’d not heard of Mabiki before at all and have learned so much about it from you.

[@Linfamy]

😁👍

[@phonex2750]

Dam they really had to end the kill streak,what happened to the true gamers.

[@jashardwallington]

😂😂😂

[@syzmon8545]

life speedrunners when they fail the mabiki skill check: drats

[@nidohime6233]

Speaking of mabiki reminds me of how in Ancient Greece what they did is if they had a baby in a household they would put a branch of bay at the front of the door if it was a boy, or a short piece of wool if it was a girl, but very often if they didn´t wanted the child they leave them at the door or at the entrance of a temple.

[@fingerboxes]

Seems many cultures had this problem. Mohammad also tried to run an anti-infanticide program that seemingly wasn't very successful until Uthman (the third Caliph after the death of Mohammad) took over because Uthman had the bright idea to actually provide food to families. There's a story of Uthman being in a mosque at night and hearing a child cry. He called out to the mother to ask why the baby was crying and she said she was trying to wean it because only weaned children received a food subsidy and she couldn't produce enough milk because she had no food. Uthman fell to his knees and cried out something like "How many babies blood is on my hands?!" He gave the woman all the money he had on him and immediately ordered that newborns also qualify for the subsidy. I'm fairly certain that Mesopotamia also had a problem with unwanted babies and that this is where many women who worked as temple priestesses came from. There was a lot written in the legal codes about the rights of sons, including adopted sons, to an education and care but there wasn't a lot written about the upkeep of girls. Giving girls who are given to a temple an inheritance is optional and she usually only has use of it for her lifetime before it reverts back to her brothers. Temple priestesses earned money through uh...the world's oldest profession. We have price lists for various positions and hymns like Ishtar Will Not Tire. There was probably always at least one priestess at a given temple who was lactating. Maybe families looked at giving their daughters to Ishtar as a more humane alternative to getting rid of them.

[@prometheus7387]

Legends say that without this intervention, we would not see a video from Linfamy about this topic.

[@Linfamy]

True.

[@dandeleo1365]

I love how he nonchalantly explainz all these probably tragic things Really cool voice dude Edit : anyone else wanna hold those puppies

[@kristingallo2158]

This is really no different from modern abortion though. They just didn't have the medical knowledge to do it before birth so they did it right after. At the end of the day nothing really changes.

[@Pepe-ql9xd]

@@kristingallo2158 except that abortion only stops a bunch of cells with no sentience to turn into a person. Mabiki actually killed living babies who were sentient.

[@LPFariy]

@@Pepe-ql9xd that depends which kind of abortion. On the low end yes they are only some cells on the higher end of abortion its definitely human or at least animal like.

[@Pepe-ql9xd]

@@LPFariy but in the higher end of pregnancy what we have aren't abortions. We have premature induced labor to save the mother's life, and it's only done when the pregnant woman is in a life-threatening situation due to the pregnancy. Late term abortion is a myth pro-life bunch made up to exploit sensationalism.

[@saymyname2417]

In the end both abortion and killing a child are murder.

[@ErikHare]

It's a great video and I hate to be so tangential. But handing out flyers and so on makes me wonder what the literacy rate was. People could read them? The literacy rate was high enough that you could do a popular campaign with Flyers? That alone is rather fascinating.

[@akai4942]

literacy in japan was really really high in some places. The average literacy rate varied in each prefecture, in some places it was 30% and in others up to 90%. Both numbers are really high for the period.

[@ErikHare]

@@akai4942 thank you. That is very impressive. I'm quite certain it was not that hire in Europe. My understanding was that it was usually 10% or even less before at least 1800

[@mfaizsyahmi]

@@ErikHare *higher

[@lynnthomas8457]

​@@iminyourwalls8309 Another thing for Europe is that reading in the common tongue was VERY common, upwards of about 50%. At least one person from every household could read, and in farming families where the men did work outdoors, it was usually the women who read, because they had to manage the family finances. *However,* you were not considered literate unless you could read the bible, which was exclusively written in Latin, or read the noble's language. So imagine that fancy-pants talk and slang were almost different languages.

[@cwxy]

the answer is Hakata Bay! also, tysm for writing captions for every video, it really helps me to focus and understand the video better!

[@Linfamy]

Glad you find the captions useful!

[@skullsaintdead]

"The only reason you're still alive is because someone has decided to let you live" KMFDM's 'Dogma', great industrial song. That quote always makes me pause, the bitter truth.

[@2712animefreak]

If you really think about it, you're still alive because every person you've ever interacted with has decided to let you live.

[@skullsaintdead]

@@2712animefreak True, but its more 'your mum let you life, your dad let you live, they didn't abort you, or leave you in the wilderness because they were too poor' kind of makes you think. But, then again, if those things had of happened, we wouldn't be doing very much thinking at all. We'd be dead. How very fleeting all of this is.

[@shelleydaly1726]

This is pretty much rich people needing more poor people to work for them. More children = more potential workers

[@andrewpatton5114]

It's also kind of important to have enough young people to take care of the elderly, or else society goes into a death spiral.

[@mintybadger6905]

Fun facts - check out the history of infanticide in human history in Wikipedia. The act didn’t calm down until birth control was introduced.

[@HaesslichG]

Hakata Bay, where the Mongols and their conscript armies were sent to gather crabs.

[@lonesomebookworm4345]

It's crazy how history can repeat itself even with this kind of debate...

[@animalgirl8181]

"stop sending back their kids like they were sending back an Amazon order" 🤣

[@mfaizsyahmi]

Problem: Population decline in Japan in the 19th century Solution: End mabiki Problem: Population decline in Japan in the 21st century Solution: End celibacy

[@telinhajp]

Have an awesome weekend, Linfamy! ❤

[@Linfamy]

No u!

[@HalfLifeOfHumanity]

Dogs have large litters.. Dogs also eat their own puppies depending on how how hungry they are.

[@dwighttheislander7369]

Dogs are in fact a superior race, I bow down to my doggy overlords

[@vermilion6966]

"and in the modern times its negative six" I know i shouldn't be laughing but damn xD

[@daria-ut2dr]

I can't I love these vids so much. Humor together with new information, isn't it lovely💔🤲

[@pippin4233]

The Mongols landed in Hakata Bay Love your videos I get so excited when I see that you uploaded a new one ^^

[@Linfamy]

[@andrewbakescakes9684]

Humour and insight combine well to make a great video. Looking forward to more. Hakata Bay in Kyushu.

[@Someone-yx5or]

This should be called:When we almost lost our anime production company

[@musiclover01ization]

Really good video, Linfamy.

[@Linfamy]

Really good comment, musiclover01ization.

[@pyrradraconem4322]

“ People look down on couples because they have too many children” I think that idea still explain why most Japan family household has one child today.

[@soxpeewee]

That and the insane cost of living

[@CutestMeows]

​@@soxpeeweeAnd crazy working conditions.

[@janeriordan6228]

Thanks once again for your great videos!!❤️

[@crazyasalways9272]

Weird thing is that during Covid people got a child tax if they had kids which resulted in people well there being less abortions also for people to actually be able to keep their kids to the point on where people in adoption groups were complaining over the fact that they couldn’t adopt infants so even now like paying for people to keep their kids still works

[@Buby39]

My saturday has been gifted with this upload

[@Linfamy]

Mine has been gifted with your viewership.

[@Buby39]

Oh you :)

[@milascave2]

I don't know if this is still true, but in Jpan when I was there, condoms and abortion were legal, but birth control pills were not. Of course this ledt o more abortions. I hope that this stupid law has been changed so that abortion can be reserved for a last resort situation, as it should be. It's not like women love it.

[@velvety2006]

if you want a weird one in holland you have to pay for your own birth control pill but viagra is covert by healthcare 🤷‍♀️

[@MMDNekochan]

I came for the folk tails and stayed for the cool info This is genuinely amazing stuff to learn ! Morbid, but amazing Also, Hakata Bay if memory serves of the old vid?

[@FunkyFyreMunky]

"Even animals care for all of their young..." Yeah, no. Cats and dogs will just straight-up *eat* the runts to ensure that they and the stronger young will survive. It's the brutal logic of life.

[@FullMetalFeline]

Yep, rabbits will often eat their young if they have the slightest inkling the nest is under threat. Birds will abandon their nests if something disturbs it. Heck, the entire reproductive system of a marsupial literally evolved to allow a mother to voluntarily abort their offspring. (They give birth to partially developed foetus's, if something happens, such as an unexpected drought, the mother will kick the developing offspring out of the pouch to die, this is due to that marsupials evolved to cope with unpredicatable enviromental conditions). In nature, the parents often prioritise themselves as it's to their reproductive advantage to give up on an offspring and try again later when conditions are better, than waste resources on a hopeless cause. This human practice is very in keeping with the general behaviour of other mammals and birds.

[@daytimelantern6570]

Ah yes send the infant to the shadowrealm!!

[@serendipityot7560]

Q)when the mongols invaded japan what was the name of the bay in kyushu that they sailed to Ans) Hakata bay

[@sundayspecial2722]

All these officials make better considerations and regulations in the 1700s than politicians in my country right now

[@blenderbanana]

Wellfare? California started a free school lunch program in 2020

[@klaede9666]

"Babies stabbing their mamas in the afterlife with nails" So this is where the inspiration for the Baby's Nail in Demon's Souls comes from

[@iglybo]

Another interesting one Linfamy! :D The bay was Hakata.

[@Linfamy]

Thanks! :D

[@user-ps2sg8qr2k]

"If you love something, let it go, and Japanese love their babies"

[@Vee_of_the_Weald]

Gosh I loooove your sarky sense of humour. Even talking about something as terrible as infanticide, you make us “lol”… you da man, baby. ;)

[@1Maklak]

A lot of this mirrors the today's declining population and arguments about abortion. Nothing new under the sun.

[@samuelmatheson9655]

Kill baby at 4 months or 10 months, still dead baby

[@1Maklak]

@@samuelmatheson9655 It's a watershed problem. Two cells combine and slowly grow into a knot of tissue and then into a baby. In the first days, the fetus sometimes simply fails to connect to the womb and is expelled, along with menstrual blood. For this reason "next day pills" may be morally acceptable. Some take the categorical approach of "life begins at conception" or "it can be aborted as long as it's still inside the mother", but it's not a simple problem and no matter where the law draws the line, someone will scream.

[@k.umquat8604]

@@samuelmatheson9655 Kill it after a week? It was never a baby to begin with

[@bleakautomaton4808]

Who knows if this will come up, with all the news outlets carrying on about dropping birth rates now.

[@Serai3]

So, in other words, women were browbeaten into killing their kids for the sake of the family, and then when they were okay with it, they were then browbeaten into NOT killing their kids. And of course, all the way through, the women were blamed. My, what an unusual situation in world history. /sarcasm

[@blenderbanana]

19 “Whenever a woman has her menstrual period, she will be ceremonially unclean for seven days. Anyone who touches her during that time will be unclean until evening. 20 Anything on which the woman lies or sits during the time of her period will be unclean. 22 If you touch any object she has sat on, you must wash your clothes and bathe yourself in water, and you will remain unclean until evening. 23 This includes her bed or any other object she has sat on; you will be unclean until evening if you touch it. - Bible, Leviticus

[@Waddleclaws]

It’s funny how nowadays abortion is a very sensitive topic, but in japan they were like: Haha killing babies go slice Haha not killing babies slice

[@kv5917]

Phew, anime is saved! :) Wait-

[@beng3360]

I read the title two times before clicking and only after hearing you saying it did I realized that I read the title wrong lol. I read it as "anti baby making"

[@Linfamy]

Lol

[@aggy8886]

I never would have known I can laugh this much while also feeling horrified about some dark parts of human history.

[@Pippis78]

Superb writing and dark humour 👌

[@deborahblackvideoediting8697]

Wow, I thought that the reason was going to be an ethical one, because of how awful the practice was. But no, the government was just concerned about a dwindling population and having plenty of soldiers, while the rich wanted to make certain they had enough poor people to work for them. Also, I'm surprised that the Buddhists took such a nasty approach. I would think that being more gentle and expressing to parents that their babies had souls that had chosen them as their mother and father, and that mabiki was terribly painful and traumatic to the tiny baby, etc. Basically a quieter, guilt-based approach.

[@suskechidori]

Haha, love how they use baby illya being held by irisville, from fate zero, as thumbnail. I can see allot of the sysmbolism from kiritsugu’s overall journey/struggles in life, as well as with his relationship avec (French for “with”) his gurll irisville. Especially the scene where he chooses to shoot lil illya as means of saving a greater amount of people, in the hallucination created by the corrupted grail. Bery saddd 🥲 but fate series goateed tho 😤