The Anti-Woke Expert: “We Are Witnessing The Fall Of The UK & The USA!” - Konstantin Kisin

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[@robdielemans9189]

hmmmmm. Joscha Bach, Eric Weinstein, Jimmy Carr and Tim Dillon

[@sreedevi3652]

❤❤

[@SensoryTreeNewZealand]

i would choose Steven Barlet as you kinda been a guest on you own show, but my 4 with out Steven barlet would be Simon Sinek, Louis Theroux, Neil deGrasse Tyson, Gabor Mate

[@Didyouthinktopray]

Good question. You have so many great guests. I'd say you and your team choose 4 unique guests that would bring their unique insights to the table

[@one4runner435]

Tim Dillon, Jordan Peterson, Eric Weinstein, Jimmy Carr

[@Dynasty1818]

"Over the last 30 or 40 years, we have replaced things that work with things that sound good. So many things in our society today sound good but don't actually help anyone." Yeah I'm stealing that. That is such a great summary.

[@westernskies2199]

E.V.s come to mind.

[@purple66666]

​@@westernskies2199how? Yeah, they have disadvantages but also many advantages and they are overall more environmentlly friendly.

[@henrythegreatamerican8136]

Actually, those things might not help the majority of us, but they do help the asset owning class. Whenever you hear politicians discuss "pro growth" policies, it's always the value of the assets that grow while the net worth of the rest of us remains relatively stagnant if you factor in real inflation.

[@sylviam6535]

Please credit Thomas Sowell for that quote.

[@paulhodges8288]

Don't toss the baby out with the bath water. ​@@purple66666

[@triggerpod]

Thank you for having me!

[@big_red_machine3547]

You’re a leader of rationality Konstantine. Easy on the commercials on your home channel though. You don’t even need your sidekick. Better on your own and cheaper

[@GrinningWolfGames]

Well done mate

[@windsongshf]

"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." - CS Lewis.

[@purple66666]

13:53 no. Hello sir! I do agree with you on many points but it's because I have come to realize you don't know the context in which the word "woke" is used. As per the internet definition of many sub groups : woke = anything that is pro-choice, pro-pedo, pro-lgbt, pro-communism, and DEI. I hope you can see now how this is a very problematic umbrella term. There are groups of very hateful people that take advantage of this trend of "relabeling". These people feel resentment for progress that western countries achieved and search for a regression. You can already see how my wording may already make you inclined to believe this is a matter of left vs right, when in fact it isn't.

[@iconoclastic23]

Hey just a heads up, your notion of the term woke originating in 2014 is wrong by an order of magnitude. Woke has been an expression in black American vernacular English since the Jim Crow days. The expression "stay woke" basically meant to be aware of how other people perceive you as a black person and keep your guard up. An example of an early book about staying woke is the Negro Motorist Green Book, a guide published in 1932 about which businesses were safe to patronize as a black person and which were unsafe.

[@SeanDawson-i9i]

It’s so refreshing to listen to two people have a conversation and discuss such topics without judgement or anger or without having a preconceived answer ready without listening first. People should be able to discuss topics where they may differ in opinions without necessarily wanting to WIN and often if they do that then they realise that both of their opinions are probably not as far from each other than they originally thought. Great episode and congratulations and thank you to both of you

[@wendellbabin6457]

1:21:40 I suspect that neither, nor any SIMILAR, are worrying like many of "the rest of us" about "their own" or families Future and have PROBABLY attained a sufficient pile of the Proverbial "Eff You Money" to be able to do so and are pretty much "uncancel-ABLE" to a degree "the rest of us" can only DREAM about. Some of us FOREVER so.

[@AleXis-t2t7n]

I agree, and I think that more and more people will not be interested in opiniated and divisive talking points but rather eloquent and balanced orators. Times will change again.

[@zerooption199]

100% ... Was very refreshing to hear.

[@Calmness123-f5k]

Rusian bot

[@HM-mw7cg]

I’m so sick of seeing this comment all over KZbin. Journalists are supposed to grill their guests tugging at the loose threads and holes in their ideas. It shows the state of society that people incapable of critical thinking now have a place to congregate under videos where morons peddle half baked hot takes online.

[@veroniquegemar5520]

What an intelligent conversation between two intelligent people. Thank you for letting the guest speak without interruption !

[@Matt.Ripley]

The problem being that the guy made up most of the stuff he’s saying. It sounds nice as a story, makes you feel angry and wanting to blame something - but that’s all part of his ploy to sell you snake oil, divide you and take your votes and money. This isn’t the reality you think he’s pushing

[@hasensaurus]

I`m a Romanian living in Germany and I so agree with this guy. The level of ignorance in the western world, not knowing what they have.

[@xyz-pg3zd]

Wdym

[@PapaSancho666]

Oh we know, we just dont give a damn, and that this the sad fact of the Western world.

[@rhondaallen5196]

There are people that are aware and care about this , but we cannot do anything until the masses have woken up and will see it

[@Lewis_1-r4t]

I agree. You can’t blame some people for thinking this way however. Our education system (especially higher academia) promotes this. I used to think like this because I’m like surely people who are super intelligent and in research knows what’s best for our country. 😂 I was completely wrong. And was displayed in my own little world.

[@alexbosch604]

I agree.

[@rosaliesadler355]

From a 76 year old woman's perspective I think the sooner a young person understands, "no one is coming to save you, no rescue etc. no one cares as much about your life as you do, the more rewarding their life can be. Of course there are exceptions. But you have to take the cards and play them. Having someone understand is totally different than feeling like a victim.

[@GrandSolarEclipse]

You are right, it is also time to stop bringing children into this fallen world. We are entering the post modern world.

[@hyiux]

Sure, but that doesn't mean you have to struggle alone, do 10 side hustles, and hope to hit the jack-pot some day. People have to organize themselves politically and fight for their rights collectively. If it weren't for the sacrifices made by the labour unions, we would still have awful work conditions, long working hours, and no paid time off. All of us have our individual identities but that doesn't mean we are not part of a collective. Working class people need to stop listening to the propaganda funded by the capitalist class and realize that the struggle is not against those below them on social and economic ladder but against the ones at the top.

[@TruthSearcher1]

But as Konstantin says and as we all see played out every day is the propaganda funded by the Communists. Every mainstream media channel is a clear depiction of this. The only one that isn't is GB News and OFCOM is trying to shut that down showing that even our governing bodies have been infected / paid off by the Communist Ideologies.

[@johnsmithers8913]

​@@hyiuxyou sound like the person she's describing. You expect Union like organizations will rescue you or some other government like structure. You think Capitalists are screwing you? Well, socialists will/are screwing the serfs as well. Capitalists are just humans and socialists are humans. They will make decisions to better themselves not the Plebs. The only sensible approach is to strive continuously for your own individual freedom AND responsibility. If you want organization then organize to fight for that freedom, drown government, drown Unions. And if you succeed disband that organization. Have a large family, form a tight network of trusted friends that's about the only structure you need. Everyone else is secondary and of no concern to you as you are of no concern to them.

[@ADUAquascaping]

​​@@hyiuxYou just keep preaching the same nonsense that doesn't produce anything good. Your ideas sound good, but they are not the truth. Not even close. The battle begins with our own ignorance, not scapegoating others. Just the same old reductionist and ideological dogma. Poor people are not inherently good and capitalists are not inherently bad. I just disproved Marx and socialism.

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[@catherinesengupta4699]

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[@strangerdanger8462]

Couldn't agree more.

[@Ninjabob568]

You can get stuck, do not forget to apply and develop the knowledge you're learning. You can actually become addicted to learning and never doing.

[@geoffarnold8723]

​@Ninjabob568 so true! I discovered this consuming guitar tuition videos and not playing my guitar 😅

[@moodcoach]

Maybe you should have a DOAC detox. A week? Two weeks? Three? 😩😂

[@scottmcginn2169]

I love how so many of the comments here are calling the guy a grifter, far-right, nauseating, etc... and yet, the vast majority cannot provide one quote and counter argument. Thus proving he is right about how ideologies dictate your thoughts.

[@mirandaandrea8215]

So true!

[@ryanslings6234]

Ideology is the new religion. It's pure poison. Everyone needs to make an effort to expose themselves to fresh perspectives and every argument's counterarguments. Deliberately developing a heterodoxy within the mind.

[@SteveAustin-zv1nn]

This is ALWAYS the case. They can't think of an intelligent rebuttal and so attack his character rather than his argument.

[@achimschwellenbach5994]

oh the projection is strong here 😂

[@XHALE303]

Everybody speaking about top down imposed woke ideologies & approving apartheid, is by definition dictating your thoughts.

[@TheOne-pv4rz]

'No one is coming to save you, no one is coming to rescue you, the cavalry isn't coming, it's just you.' The sooner you learn this as a man, the sooner you can take your life into your own hands and try to improve it yourself, make it better.

[@Pr3stss]

as a person*

[@oceansunset6147]

Why do you say “you” instead of “us”?

[@nomadicam]

​@@Pr3stssright? I'm a woman and no one has stepped forward to save me 😂

[@shutinalley]

Unless your mommy and daddy are rich. In which case, here's a couple hundred grand in your bank account, son. GTFOH

[@rockymountainhomesteadangela]

Exactly!

[@deeannakim9306]

Love Konstantin. He is unapologetic, direct, factual, intelligent, and eloquent. Thank you for having him on your podcast.

[@ShoahshanaGoldbergShekelstein]

Wrong.

[@TheSpeedOfVideo]

You can’t just say “wrong” and then leave without giving a compelling reason why. That’s the intellectual version of covering your ears and saying “lalala I’m not listening”

[@ShoahshanaGoldbergShekelstein]

@@TheSpeedOfVideo Wrong.

[@TheSpeedOfVideo]

@@ShoahshanaGoldbergShekelstein peak maturity

[@ADUAquascaping]

​@@ShoahshanaGoldbergShekelstein Victim who can't handle personal responsibility 😂

[@Antti79]

Thank you, Steven for letting Konstantin speak without constantly interrupting him as very often happens. Konstantin is an incredibly smart person.

[@crankin77]

This

[@faebalina7786]

Can’t be that smart he defends genocide

[@crankin77]

@@faebalina7786 Send the timestamp where this happens.

[@strangerdanger8462]

​@@faebalina7786 Please provide context, otherwise sod off.

[@ali3143]

@@faebalina7786I haven’t heard him defend genocide, and I’ve listened/read quite a bit of his material. Can you point me in the direction of that evidence please?

[@lsaua]

Thank you Kostantin! You speak my mind I lived my first 25 years in USSR, Ukraine and all I can say, I’m grateful to all Brits UK, we are so privileged , just wish people could see it And it’s time to teach kids to be proud being British

[@michellemaine2719]

Can we please not have it reach the levels of pride and patriotism that the US has? Acknowledging one's faults has a place, pledging allegiance to the flag of your country on a daily basis does not.

[@williamrose7184]

And that’s why you get arrested for Facebook speech and we don’t in America. We call that American pride. You’re welcome

[@dancerloverish]

@@michellemaine2719 Nobody is forcing you. You do you, but let others do them!

[@HardHardMaster]

​@@michellemaine2719that allegiance actually has a vital function in this world

[@goych]

@@dancerloverishhow about you shut up

[@picosdrivethru]

"I don't care about the tribe, I care about the truth." Respect.

[@marsyas.]

He cares very much about the tribe. In fact that's the only thing he cares about. If he was questioned about Israel that would have been obvious

[@vmartme]

But we cannot live without tribe so that is why communication is important for us as human being.

[@mahnaznadeem902]

​@@marsyas.Exactly he's not honest about his agenda

[@scoonboon]

Except he lies.

[@johnharmon536]

It's "respect" except it's bullshit. This is what EVERYONE says, but nobody means. What's he supposed to say? "I care about the tribe and the truth can get fucked?". That's what he means, but he can't say it.

[@mariaborisnova8845]

Great conversation. Victimhood is the worst way to live. It doesn't get you anywhere.

[@ohwellwhateverr]

So glad that Konstantin is getting a wider audience. He expresses so well what millions of us think and feel about the dangers we face in modern society. Highly recommend everyone watches Triggernometry.

[@FlatToRentUK]

And what dangers do you face in modern society?

[@PeterPeach21]

@@FlatToRentUK 😭😭😭

[@nihil632]

@@FlatToRentUK well your handle probably giving people a PTSD trigger, for one

[@gussygrom8047]

@@FlatToRentUKyou are a good example of an ignorant person

[@EricJGonzalez]

The tide is starting to turn. We need more people talking about this and leading the charge.

[@trackerbacker]

I hope you are right and the woke mind virus is a passing trend

[@shutinalley]

Pfffft. Like a social justice warrior? Go get um, tiger.

[@shereeglasson22]

This sounds like an ideological movement, the exact thing he is ostensibly warning against. i personally feel the idea of ideological blocks is not the way to view the human species. He is setting up human society as a group of different ideological blocks. Then he is warning against ideology and yet he is seeing the world through an ideological lens. there are a lot of blind spots in his thinking, starting with his own prejudices, which he does not try to examine. He lacks self awareness as he has not demonstrated any attempt to examine his own blind spots. He defines success according to his own values. He says it is more important to be rich and have a good job than to be understood. That is his OWN version of happiness and I doubt that many people would agree with that.

[@nonfictionone]

I don’t v think so. The woke control the media and ALL of the institutions.

[@michawill6599]

​@shereeglasson22 Much written, little said. Examine your claims and be precise with examples.

[@kenmathers8765]

"Enjoy the hate you are going to get" How could anyone possibly hate anything that was said during this conversation? This is the most reasonable and well rounded discussion of life and the issues of the day I have ever heard. Congratulations to both participants.

[@hrabmv]

freedom of speech with the limit of reach is the same as lavk of freedom.of speech! if you do not get this your brain is in a bad state

[@Kaiser68]

It's easy to see why people get upset hearing the truth when they have wrapped themselves in an ideology and an identity that cannot co-exist with reality.

[@l.w.paradis2108]

This guy oozes duping delight, as well he should. This is a job?

[@AdamJones381]

What do you think is his duping delight?

[@l.w.paradis2108]

@AdamJones381 He's making fools out of everyone with these smart-sounding platitudes. He lived long enough outside of the West to know what real work is. This is getting paid to have fun. Duping delight is the tiny smirk that passes over his face quite regularly. Learn to spot that. Or watch your wallet.

[@jislaaikrockadopolis7215]

Konstantine and Triggernometry are the reason why I am now a Centrist. And, yes, it can be quite uncomfortable, given that all of my family and friends are knee-jerk (American) liberals.

[@lauradelacourt3032]

Such a great talk! Thank you for this! As a biracial woman from NL I remember going to Silicone Valley for a tech conference for work, I was in my early 20s, and I had never been exposed to that much racial and gender stereotyping in my life. It was meant to be “positive” but I felt so discriminated against because I’d never view myself or anyone else from the perspective of “a young black woman successful in the tech industry”. This awakening of my racial and gender differences did not feel good to me at all! All I wanted was to be recognised as an intelligent person who had worked hard to achieve that level in my career, my awards, etc. just like any other person in that role/ position. They thought they made me feel special but I only felt self-conscious and isolated from the others on my team. Suddenly I wasn’t a colleague anymore, I was THE ONLY “young black woman” on the team, hooray for me!!! Painful!

[@saintac31Northernsoul]

Unbelievable. Tale

[@BuckleBunny]

I would agree with that. I don’t quite fully agree with everyone that this guest is saying, placing the ideology of being a “victim“ on the people in which this perceived notions being placed. You were in a situation where you were being painted with the perceived notion. as a person of this country, I don’t like being called out or being made to feel different. I want to be treated the same. Expected the same level of work expected to perform at the same level. I want to be allowed to show up the same as my colleagues no matter what we look like and who we are. no excuses or descriptions or ideology should be giving on either side of the spectrum. For that as a black woman in this country, I’m not being taught or made to believe that I’m a victim. It’s quite the opposite people want to believe that I’m a victim or that I’m an enemy and treat me as such and I’m fighting against that. I wanted to stop . I am just a person that’s here. That’s just as intelligent as anyone else and my work period is just what gets me here to the levels that I am. It is so stressful dealing with otherwise.

[@danburrett5480]

I’m 67 year old “white” woman a retired psychiatric nurse who worked in a large hospital in Sussex England. I had the privilege of working with people from all over the world and I learned so much. I was married for 42 years to my darling late husband who was Anglo Indian oh boy did we get stares and comments 😂

[@marynewman9180]

Sorry for your pain. I have had conversations with black people who say they don't want to dwell on the racial issues, they just want everyone to get over it. I think the problem is that if we ignore that racism exists or we don't find a way to remain aware, compassionate and frankly on guard, it takes off in ugly directions. I guess I'm saying all the divisiveness training (DT) may seem to be excessive, but without something like it we (unfortunately) can't be expected to behave ourselves. The wicked creep back in. I don't see the anti-woke as having trouble with woke because it is too victimizing and villainizing, it's the opposite, it confronts those with bigoted opinions and singles their opinions out as faulty. Yes, tolerant people might find DT a bit over the top but many find it a necessary component of our American culture until we just know better at all of our cores. Probably a long time away.

[@snowsonline]

Really insightful perspective. Thank you fur sharing.

[@CamM0285]

Absolutely one of the best episodes yet. Konstantin articulated very well and has a fantastic outlook on life.

[@tomgallagher7870]

We have to remember who we are..?what does that have to do with someone getting up in the morning to go work pay his bills .look after his family.this guy and jordan petterson and douglas murray..there obsessed with the west.values.culture.

[@Saif-kd1jt]

Yh coz he’s white

[@e.r.3785]

Years of chewing over why, why, where for, if only my parents were like this or did this...until I was tired of feeling like a victim. I remember sitting in one of the countless psychotherapy sessions (which was the last one, by the way) and the new psychotherapist told me (after I told her about my childhood and adolescence) that this is so much that I had to go through in my younger years ... I was overcome with incredible anger because I could no longer bear this pity. After about 20 years, I decided to stop being a victim because it just didn't work for 20 years. I hope that it goes faster for others.

[@ils5246]

Similar experience here, had a difficult situation at home and have been to many psychologists and psychiatrists throughout my youth. Completely done with mental health care, I’ve helped myself more than they ever did. They don't dare to be firm with people about moving forward in their lives; all that overly sympathetic behavior is counterproductive. Endless validation makes people more ill.

[@LiquidFlower]

Exactly! I don’t like therapy cuz it doesn’t help me it only makes me feel weaker and more like a victim! I come up with wild understandings of what has harmed me in the past and feel entitled for peoples pity.. it’s just not practical! Learn to respect others and yourself and move on.

[@stephenpeacock8592]

Wow, individual integrity really breaks the chains, there is hope after all...

[@mariavasilakis]

I love and subscribe to both you. Thank you for an intelligent, informative and civil conversation. ❤

[@BoldDreadman]

2 Adults having a grown up conversation about real issues and subjects. So refreshing these days.❤

[@CUPAVI1]

In Sweden we do the things the right way. The only problem is that we aren't doing the right things.

[@Sunesha]

That is the most true observation about my home country I have heard for a long time.

[@oooodles3]

The best thing Sweden has going for itself is the immigrant population - more honest, more straightforward to deal with, and WAY more fun. Good luck out there!

[@SG-ji5ij]

Yeah, you guys showed the other Western countries how to NOT do immigration properly. Now you've got a mess on your hands.

[@bookinsights1092]

Import the third world become the third world.

[@diarmidbaillie]

You're doing the wrong things in the right way?

[@Nori8273]

I’m so glad we’re having this conversation 🙏🙏🙏 It’s needed

[@tocnik]

woke" has just become a blanket term that enables a crusade against genuinely needed mutual human care via its conflation with individual exagerated examples of actual unjustified self-victimisation and unwarranted attention to it.

[@TheManorBeast]

We aren't though. He's completely right but he's only preaching to the choir The woke will just be calling him a far right Nazi. They're just too stupid

[@kats.7268]

His words are so deeply true. I wish people would wake up and realize that.

[@homogenic73]

The episode lasts almost two hours. One hour after posting, there's about 800 comments and strong opinions one way or another. I'm so glad everyone is listening before making their mind up😅 no comment! 😊

[@cheriew2512]

Exactly!! You have to laugh 😅

[@iwe7078]

@@homogenic73 why not comment as you watch? There a multiple topics being discussed here. In fact, we should all make the most of comment sections while they are still legal.

[@HuwRichards]

You can watch at X2 speed also

[@ludwigderlude]

shut up

[@westernskies2199]

​@cheriew2512 Arrogant..much? Nothing wrong with commenting during the LONG two hours! Smh

[@verified.my2cents]

The term "woke" has an interesting history, evolving significantly in meaning and usage over time. Here's a concise overview of its journey: 1930s-1960s: Earliest usage + Originated in African American Vernacular English (AAVE) + Meant literally "awake" but also figuratively "aware" or "conscious," especially of social issues and racism 1962: "If You're Woke You Dig It" by William Melvin Kelley + Published in The New York Times, one of the earliest mainstream uses + Used to describe awareness of racial issues 1965: "Woke from Sleeping" by Lead Belly + Song lyrics used "stay woke" in the context of racial awareness 1970s-2000s: Limited usage + Primarily used within African American communities + Maintained its connection to social and racial consciousness 2008: Erykah Badu's song "Master Teacher" + Popularized the phrase "I stay woke" + Brought the term to a wider audience 2010s: Mainstream adoption + Black Lives Matter movement adopted "stay woke" as a watchword + Began to be used more broadly for general social and political awareness 2014-2016: Social media spread + Gained traction on Twitter and other platforms + Used as a hashtag (#staywoke) to discuss social justice issues 2017-Present: Politicization and backlash + Adopted by wider progressive movements beyond racial issues + Began to be used ironically or pejoratively by critics + Became a contentious term in political discourse + Some view it as a positive call for awareness, others as excessive political correctness Today, "woke" remains a polarizing term. Its meaning can vary significantly depending on who's using it and in what context. For some, it continues to represent important social consciousness. For others, it's become a pejorative term for what they see as overzealous progressivism.

[@juneesser5153]

Thank you for the accurate history of the word. I don't know if I have time to listen to the whole conversation. I feared it was going to be left at " since 2014."...that's not the whole history. Topic worth exploring for sure but eliminating the entire history of the word creates a bad start to the convo. As a trauma therapist couldn't agree more...leaving people in victimhood is the beginning of the end.

[@akane-lb9vl]

About dam time somebody pointed out how this term was hijacked

[@Macfromwales]

Someone had to look the word up ☝️😂😂😂

[@safirestudio]

@@juneesser5153 It's so hard to just sit around and listen to people talk about how terrible being "woke" is. Like the alternative is to stay asleep! What are you really asking for here? It's so dumb. Thanks for the extended history btw. I knew most but not all. Not that these folks care about how the work is actually used.

[@marielocascio2099]

Thank you for sharing the origin of the word and how it's evolved. Could it be that the term has been perjorised to stop it's efficacy in bringing people together to end racism and injustice.

[@paulwdarlington]

I am a regular listner to Triggernometry, but.... this interview with Konstantin is on another level. Great job gentleman.

[@yazyyaz3486]

So many topics I agree on and so many I disagree on... but it's beautiful to have such conversations and see other people's point of views.. love this channel... more dialogue not less is always the way ❤

[@magdalena8270]

Amazing to see Konstantine here. Amazing podcast. Love the Diary of CEO ❤

[@Jacquiegrace1]

There is a significant paradox here that is being ignored. Yes, it is true that as an individual it is important to play the cards that you’ve been dealt to the absolute best of your ability, without undue attention to any stereotypes or limitations that other people or systems may seek to impose on you. At the same time, it is valuable for communities and groups to advocate for greater fairness, justice, and equality for their members so that the limitations that other people and systems seek to impose on them are reduced or eliminated over time. BOTH THINGS CAN BE TRUE AT THE SAME TIME. The challenge is to be able to accept/hold this paradox and operate from the first perspective as an individual and from the second perspective as the member of a group or community. Failure to understand this paradox can lead to living your individual life from the second perspective and feeling like a victim who is not responsible for their outcomes, or can lead to operating as a community member from the first perspective and failing to advocate for and support societal systems that reduce unfairness, injustice, and inequality.

[@westernskies2199]

I disagree with your well-trained, no longer free opinion. Nothing is equal and fair in life and should not be forced into being equal and fair.

[@marypaino1327]

"Advocating for greater justice, and fairness" but not on the behalf of particular groups based on their unifying qualities but on the very essence that it is right for all. But in the end we are a competitive species so it also must be expected not everyone is going to be top dog and by that very nature we must find some contentment in what you as an individual are able to achieve. You can look at any individual and you will never recognize the amount anyone has suffered in their lives. How do you their injustices get compensated?? They don't, they either get beyond it or not. Every individual has a responsibility to make their own best life. Its not the responsibility of others

[@marielocascio2099]

Thank you for sharing this insight that sums up well the paradox we face. It's definitely a challenge but one worth working on.

[@Safwaan-s7k]

@@marypaino1327for sure. The feminist idea of being equal just does not work, we are naturally competitive

[@deborahdanhauer8525]

@@Safwaan-s7kThe feminist idea of being equal DOES work. Because the equality we are asking for is equality of opportunity. No feminist believes all humans are copies of eachother. Feminist want to be allowed to try and try fairly, for anything. If they can do it, pay them the same and treat them with the same consideration as men. All feminist want is the same opportunities men have.

[@leondonald]

The U.S. economy relies on ongoing credit and debt generation for sustenance. The Federal Reserve is expected to increase the money supply, leading to further debt accumulation for the average American. Meanwhile, foreign nations continue to desire the U.S. dollar, despite their own economies facing significant challenges, some even worse than that of the U.S. This situation raises concerns about who will ultimately bear the consequences of these economic dynamics.

[@Martina-Alan]

They do say gold will crash in a liquidity crunch However, many of those holding precious metals are preparing for such an event. So they are unlikely to be forced sellers. The paper market would tank and hopefully collapse.

[@DallisonScramosin]

I wholeheartedly concur, which is why I appreciate giving an investment coach the power of decision-making. Given their specialized expertise and education, as well as the fact that each and every one of their skills is centered on harnessing risk for its asymmetrical potential and controlling it as a buffer against certain unfavorable developments, it is practically impossible for them to underperform. I have made over 1.5 million dollars working with an investment coach for more than two years.

[@SladeCirrincione]

That does make a lot of sense, unlike us, you seem to have the Market figured out. Who is this consultant?

[@DallisonScramosin]

My CFA Vivian Jean Wilhelm, a renowned figure in her line of work. I recommend researching her credentials further. She has many years of experience and is a valuable resource for anyone looking to navigate the financial market.

[@SladeCirrincione]

I searched for her full name online, found her page, and sent an email to schedule a meeting. Hopefully, she responds soon. Thank you

[@K2mee]

Kisin has a razor sharp intellect and this episode really showcases Steven's masterful interview skills. Completely absorbing

[@whirlwhind666]

razor sharp intellect? er..no

[@l.w.paradis2108]

​@@whirlwhind666 By Biden Trump Harris standards, maybe.

[@PeterPeach21]

@@whirlwhind666 😭😭😭

[@Al-sw1iv]

He’s a snide.

[@ronaldwhite706]

@@whirlwhind666 The man is "razor sharp" :)

[@CollinsShappell]

I'm 56 and my wife and I are VERY worried about our future, gas and food prices rising daily. We have had our savings dwindle with the cost of living into the stratosphere, and we are finding it impossible to replace them. We can get by, but can't seem to get ahead. My condolences to anyone retiring in this crisis, 30 years nonstop just for a crooked system to take all you worked for.

[@NorwoodGuernsey]

I feel your pain mate, as a fellow retiree, I'd suggest you look into passive index fund investing and learn some more. For me, I had my share of ups and downs when I first started looking for a consistent passive income so I hired an expert advisor for aid, and following her advice, I poured $30k in value stocks and digital assets, Up to 200k so far and pretty sure I'm ready for whatever comes.

[@MatthewHendren-x9z]

In the 80's my Dad worked a modest job, Mom stayed at home and raised the kids, and they lived a nice middle class lifestyle including owning a home. Nowadays both I and my partner works and can barely afford to make ends meet. Soon the kids and family dog will need to work to keep this household going. It's the destruction of the American dream right before our eyes.

[@BobVienckowski]

If you are not in the financial market space right now, you are making a huge mistake. I understand that it could be due to ignorance, but if you want to make your money work for you...prevent inflation

[@DrewMercantile]

I was a late bloomer,but Mary Callahan Erdoes Services, my financial advisor helped me bring it all together and got me into crypto. Now retired for 6 years at 72, my managed portfolio with Tracy generates about 9k a month on average more than my RMD on my retirement accounts. Not real big, but together with SS we're able to live reasonably with 160k a year. While being mortgage free.

[@DrewMercantile]

She is really a good investment advisor. Was privileged to attend some of her seminars.that's how I started my own crypto investment

[@santhiyapei5570]

Man, if enough people were to watch this conversation, what a different world it would be...

[@rasasutkus4504]

100% So appreciate this conversation.

[@Vivi_9]

We'd all be dumber for it

[@Walperion_Music]

Im sure it’ll be watched by millions within days it’s one of the biggest channels out there cmon what do you mean!

[@l.w.paradis2108]

​@@Vivi_9 Exactly. This is sheer dupery.

[@TheSupercharger1981]

@@Vivi_9 How so?

[@sandragomez6003]

I wish I could press the like button more than once, because this conversation is GOLD.

[@polrut4]

From Barcelona. We need this kind of conversations in southern Europe, where boths sides started emotional fights and only Europe is losing.

[@giberthayworth6059]

When i first stumbled onto constantin i thought he was just a comedian, but the more i watch of him, the more impressed i am. This dude is very insightful. Great vid!

[@catherinesengupta4699]

Good comedians are people who have the ability to see beyond fakery and negativity to point out the ridiculous, farcical nature of hiding the truth.

[@irishcufta8]

George Carlin was good at that

[@giberthayworth6059]

Agreed, but constantin seems to go beyond that and give some real thought as to the how and why. Then again, maybe Carlin would sound like that too if we could've got him to sit down and dive into a single topic...

[@claireg2888]

I don’t think I’ve ever listened to anyone discuss so many topics broadly in a balanced, sensible, knowledgable way. Great listen, and it really helped me to navigate my own thoughts over some very complexed issues that I felt uncomfortable to “put in that same bucket”. Thank you!!!

[@masonminister3505]

Couldn’t have written it better.

[@davidreynolds9649]

A problem most people have, we know something is wrong but don't have the words to talk about it. Konstantin and Douglas Murray have found a way.

[@MysticRisingTarot]

It’s easy to discuss a topic in a balanced way when it is broad - without factual data nor stats to support most of what you’re saying.

[@theproblemwithbeingawake]

I must say, as a man with similar ideas, you have grown in size which is a testament to your hard work. Great for UK Social Media in the UK. Congratulations on your Sucess. Best wishes, Ben Wilson-Smith

[@Melinda-g7v]

Having spent my first 20 years in communist China, I fully agree with this podcast and wish more people recognized how destructive and impractical communism and Marxism are to Western values.

[@jageo48]

China is not Marxist; neither was the USSR. China _is_ and the USSR _was_ state capitalist. The place we all need to get to is an understanding of sharing by removing private property and personal profit for our culture's mindset.

[@gerkmonster1]

@jageo48 good luck with that. It's been tried many times. Like the mayflower compact. Fails every time

[@jageo48]

@@gerkmonster1 Says you, dude. Americans cannot think outside the box that they have created for the world. The result is decline and eventual collapse.

[@jageo48]

@@gerkmonster1 Moral changes using gut logic and untried solutions are needed. The US is the last place to use reason towards, given their stand on transgenderism, Gaza, mass shootings and mass killings, Ukraine, very low minimum wage, not to mention the planet's most wealthy nation in history without a comprehensive medical plan for every man woman and child.

[@gerkmonster1]

@jageo48 also the only country capable of fending off Xi and Putin

[@crankin77]

Finally! This will be one of the most watched videos/podcasts.

[@Calmness123-f5k]

Russian propaganda.

[@crankin77]

@@Calmness123-f5k Oh God. Read something outside MSM

[@alejoe84]

@@crankin77 Lol the worst podcast ever... captain incel in the podcast looll

[@crankin77]

@@alejoe84 Have you read his book A Love Letter to the West? You lefties need to stop buying Hillary’s Russian propaganda. It’s comical how you all eat that up and lack critical thinking.

[@crankin77]

@@Calmness123-f5k Ok Hillary.

[@frankmossa6445]

We're in the timeline of indifference and ignorance . Most people who insult others lack any critical thinking..

[@62Deepblue]

The world is a better place, having both of you.

[@SuperLkelley]

"what is the harm?" I honestly cannot believe that this is not unbelievably apparent. This is an INSANE state of mind.

[@Sayntavian]

Think of it as an earnest question, not a turn of phrase. He's not asking 'What's the harm?' to suggest it's all fine, he's asking the specific harm being done to be expressed. Frankly I think Konstantin could've done a bit better on that question. "Well they're breaking the law" isn't really an adequate answer I feel.

[@SuperLkelley]

@@Sayntavian You're right. Excellent point. The harm does need to be explicitly and calmly and coherently pointed out rather than my gut reaction and yes illegality is not an adequate response. Thanks man!

[@LEZGO42]

Yes this is the thinking of most libs and i think they should bring them all to their homes and towns and see if they’re still okay with it. We are in big trouble so many crimes that media/gov does NOT report it’s sickening.

[@LEZGO42]

@@Sayntavian At first I was was thinking maybe he’s trying to scope it out but then the following questions and the demeanor, I say no he thinks this

[@gluehoof573]

Pretty simple example of direct harm: our pensioners having their winter fuel allowance cut, as the government has chosen to spend that money housing illegal immigrants in nice hotels, and there is only so much money to go around. It's a sad fact that vulnerable pensioners, hopefully not many, _will_ die as a result of that choice.

[@melbourne9784]

Amazing, this Konstantin is seeing what happening in most of the world,right now!

[@westernskies2199]

Sadly you are right, except the msm is preventing us from seeing or learning the truth about what is really happening and why most of the upheaval is because of the ruling class squashing the freedom of a once free society, open for all to make their iwn choices to thrive which is why the people are fed up with the ruling class making absurd restrictions for us, while flaunting their highly privilaged lives for all to see.

[@XHALE303]

UK & US is not most of the world.

[@sabransuleman4373]

I disagree, UK & USA are the most powerful

[@XHALE303]

@@sabransuleman4373 You mean most delusional.

[@marsyas.]

Amazing he is feeding goyslop to the idiots and they are loving it😂

[@kocem3384]

Respect for hosting him

[@marsyas.]

Yes that's what this podcast needs, more non-Western jews complaining about the West

[@megullett1]

@marsyas I've noticed you have trolled a lot of people. Let's start trolling you. Now that is fun 😄

[@alexandraartamonova9865]

Really excellent! Konstantin is a very smart man and so well spoken! Steven, you are promoting good ideas and presenting views that are not popular but important. All the smart people are always somewhere in the middle. Really excellent conversation. I couldn’t get enough!

[@Nora-by3cp]

Bro is spitting facts from start to finish, legend!

[@karendelgado9763]

THIS IS PROBABLY THE BEST EPISODE OF THIS CHANNEL. THANK YOU GUYS!

[@izzyg907]

Thank you, Steven, by pushing back when you doubt what your guest is saying. You are such a fair listener and compassionate young interviewer. I know you are always looking for balance and fairness.

[@LilithBlack-s4y]

What a great interview! So informative, eye opening and broken down in understandable digestible ways. Brilliant!!!!

[@QuotesReactionMeme]

Living in the West is like being in a luxury cruise ship, but some passengers are so bored they’ve started throwing tantrums over the buffet selection. Meanwhile, Kisin’s saying, “Hey, maybe stop complaining and notice you’re not drowning in the ocean out there? It's like leaving the front door wide open while arguing about which color to paint the living room. Meanwhile, the neighbors (cough Russia, China) are sneaking in and helping themselves to the fridge.

[@CaptainYbara]

right, except for the fact that the ones sneaking in are haitians, mexicans, other immigrants. The neighbors just expand their lawns and attend barbecues with other neighbors without you present

[@Elizabeth912-v6o]

U nailed it!!!! 👏

[@BDee3126]

Don't be racist man!!!! /S

[@Hdkslsu]

spot on

[@belindared3389]

😢thank you, I'm listening, and it's all interesting 😅😅😅

[@emankarns]

I am an older black woman that grew up in the U.S. I have lived through the time when my mum was told that I did not get a job because it was against the company's policy to hire blacks. My mum got this call because I had aced the test that was given and I was asked to come to the store and take the test again because the manager thought I had gotten help. However, there were more jobs than people in this little town. The town was also made up of 1st or 2nd generation European immigrants that had been discriminated against, so there was no noticeable discrimination based on the color of your skin in the town. So, I grew up never thinking of myself than less than. However, when I left that little town I learned quickly that many whites saw me as less than. There was open discrimination signs saying no blacks (actually the N word) and in college if I had a question the instructors would ignore me until after the first test where I usually tested as one of the top 3 students of the class. In time I graduated from college in a field where I was able to get a good paying job strictly based on education and ability to do the job. I lived in another community that wasn't racist and I've loved my life here. However, I'm still surprised when I go elsewhere in this country and I'm slapped in the face with racism. I did not experience discrimination in the U.K. I've been told that it is there but it's definitely not on the level as the U.S.

[@BradLeroy]

You’re talking like the US has these same problems today they had 60-70 years ago. That’s not true at all. There’s no widespread racism against blacks in the US today. I agree it was here before but not for decades now.

[@sannahbouchet4893]

Racism in uk is just more covert that’s all

[@VolsungsDaughter1]

Americans don’t call their mothers “mum.” Russian trolls make that mistake, though.

[@sbaumgartner9848]

@@VolsungsDaughter1 Huh? Mum is a very common word for one's mother certainly in many parts of the USA (and Canada).

[@cloudbloom]

​@@VolsungsDaughter1 lmao gottem

[@Jamie-jg1in]

Konstantin on DOAC made my night. Thank you for bringing on this refreshing man who speaks directly, from his heart and without fear of repercussion.

[@DreadWaaaghGaming]

Completely agree with the sentiments in his opening comments about appreciating and protecting what we have

[@boozehouse303]

I wıll never understand how anyone can support openıng the borders to EVERYBODY. Its an ınsutl to the cıtızens of the country on so many levels.

[@adaslesniak]

It's easy to understand. They just see that few immigrants don't do harm, that there are good people among them and that's it. They don't use the imagination. And usually it's the good people that support such things, they just they live comfortable lives and erased the idea that there are bad things in the world.

[@autovan3207]

Because they know they don’t have to live near them

[@jessekippola5496]

Thomas Sowell brings a wealth of eye opening truth

[@tammyhare5355]

Konstantin is BRILLIANT! Great conversation. Thanks, DOAC!

[@user-Aa310]

Create equality of opportunity by removing barriers, not by building uneven platforms.

[@nathaliawatkins456]

What an excellent podcast episode. I was born in Venezuela and my family and I escaped socialism, immigrated to the U.S. Everything he has said is 100% true. I would really love to avoid having my children grow up in communism and Marxism. Upholding and teaching our children the ideals of western civilization is one of the MANY reasons we chose to homeschool, and we educate them classically for that reason. It is important to pass down our western heritage to the next generation.

[@yvonneboerema2782]

Home school just narrows your kids abillaty to make up there own mind,if you narrow down the input you narrow down the output

[@PeterPeach21]

@@yvonneboerema2782 😭😭😭

[@Bobbybooboo505]

Let’s hope there is a peaceful transition for the new government elect early next year .. I do hope so … Venezuela is an amazing country..

[@JackNulty24]

What a hypocritical thing to say what about right as well labelling people left woke for anything is wrong too goes both ways.

[@JackNulty24]

You are doing what he is saying only the right do it as well left too. But thanks for polarisation. Example if anyone speaks or disagree with you u label someone communism

[@zooeylaw4759]

Whether you agree or disagree with Konstantin Kisin, we need more brave people like him who can openly criticize and challenge the mainstream narratives that have been brainwashing people for decades.

[@steveviab]

Like capitalism being the only option?

[@havingfunisnthard]

‘Mainstream narrative’ lmao no? Our societies are still created by and for the benefit of men. Dude is spewing the same old nonsense.

[@barak-rocky-giles2081]

@@steveviab Exactly

[@big_red_machine3547]

A little bit late, like 40 years, but I agree. Better late than never

[@zooeylaw4759]

@@steveviab Capitalism is NOT flawless, nobody denies this fact. However, we can not deny that it is the only system that has worked well so far and helped many countries out of poverty. Unless you want the world to be taken by communism or socialism. I guess we don't need to show you more existing examples of how communism and socialism fucked up the world, right?

[@aoibhg1211]

This is maybe one of my favourite conversations to have ever had the privilege to witness. So this is my dream guest/conversation. All the points that Konstantin raises are SOO TRUE and SOO IMPORTANT. Thank you to DOAC for giving him the platform to speak!!! Thank you Konstantin for fighting the good fight!!!

[@EmmaTeape]

Luv DOAC n triggernometry subed to both.. but do have to say though thank god u r finally getin in to wot is happening around us !!❤. Great convo

[@jessikaMilligan1457]

What an exceptional guest to have on. I will be listening to Konstantine's podcasts as well now. Thank you for bringing on such phenomenal people to your platform.

[@maitegomez7252]

Thank you, Steven, for being such an amazing interviewer. I had to breathe to be able to listen to some of his points of view, sometimes as closed as the ones he goes against. But I trusted you and your team, if you bring it to the show… he had some good points and I truly believe to improve, as individuals and societies, we have to be open to different ideas. And I felt represented in your pushback questions. Thank you.

[@johnnyfingaz]

Very surprising that a man such as Steven hasn't ever heard Thomas Sewell. Makes you wonder just how many people aren't familiar with the paramount logic of his teachings.

[@Olivia-fs5ez]

Hang on, Sewell or Sowell? Two very different people - one a convicted 30 year old neo-Nazi, the other a Regan-era political economist and philosopher

[@Phangmaster]

@@Olivia-fs5ez It's Sowell.

[@ms-jl6dl]

Sowell.

[@grimaldus1967]

Both of them are great lads.​@Olivia-fs5ez

[@henriettashenderey7096]

Captivating interview. Love Konstantin and Triggernometry. Thanks for inviting him

[@thk929]

Wow. I love Konstantin. Triggernometry is one of the best podcasts out there.

[@maggietattersfield2859]

Vote for Trump . He will save America and the World. 🙏🏼

[@francoisesajous393]

Wow, you outdid yourself with this one... I have a new respect for your growth, Steven - I can't wait to see more!

[@iwe7078]

I sincerely hope the beautiful concept of open conversation and the free exchange of ideas continues for a little longer for humanity.

[@westernskies2199]

@iwe7078 Do you believe it still exists? Think about it...

[@eri4ever466]

@@iwe7078 This guest to whom you attribute a willingness to engage in "open conversation" is an enthusiastic supporter of the ongoing horrifying daily mass slaughter of Palestinian children.

[@Heather-j1w]

One of the most impactful interviews I have ever watched!

[@MaxiMum1324]

This man blows me away. Amazing thinker. Thank you.

[@thecatfan101]

Wow, hats off to Steven for hosting this important conversation!!! Did not expect to see this on the diary of a CEO!

[@Bottle-Blonde]

Thomas Sowell, YES! Also a fan of his co-researcher Victor Davis Hanson, both fellows of the Hoover Institute. Terrific interview!

[@methinks5310]

Thanks!

[@Butterflybanter]

One of my favorites. I disagree with some conclusions but that’s not a problem. Things will bear out as they’re going to and no one needs to foretell the future for my benefit. What’s important is we apply ourselves in good faith. I agree with that!

[@TheDiaryOfACEO]

Thanks for sharing!

[@stacypastry2440]

​@TheDiaryOfACEO this guest name is mislabeled as Eric Wienstein instead of Konstantin Kissin

[@jonathancreese]

Great episode 👍🏼 Konstantin is brilliant at talking about complex (& toxic) topics, whilst being reasoned and insightful!

[@stephwalsh9158]

Here's 2 podcaster's I find sharp, intelligent listeners and thought provoking. So happy to hear this conversation Thank you ❤️

[@l.w.paradis2108]

More stuff on woke? 😂😂😂

[@danzaathedancer7761]

So thankful there are people like you two in this world making podcasts and speaking out

[@andrerain9952]

The best and most important conversation on this channel to date

[@samuelcraig]

Respect Steven for having Konstantin on. We need more people in the world like him. As a brit that grew up outside the UK, I too see how lucky Brits are - that they dont see/take for granted. Perhaps one day that will change.

[@jadec2734]

Many of us do see it. We dont have to have a great big Empire to be Great. The fact that so many are fleeing from elsewhere desperately trying to get here means we must infact be doing something right. Being Decent isn't weakneness as Konstantin implies. It is infact our freatest strength. Our only issue is that a small Island can physically hold and support well only so many people. But the fact we are seen as a beacon others want to come to is a strength if only the bigots would shut up for a moment and realise it!

[@samuelcraig]

@@jadec2734 that's great to hear. I have to remind myself that it is the small few that have taken over twitter that make it seem like people dont care

[@nickbargas7352]

Such a wonderful conversation on so many topics. I love how Konstantin thinks and expresses his view. I am in the same camp of what he talks about.

[@dragonfire1842]

What an interesting conversation! Much food for thought.

[@theravenswritingdesk]

Well done for having Konstantin on, his last comment about the backlash is very true, but that doesn't negate how important conversations like this are.

[@nanyate]

As an Asian educated in the West, I don't think it's fair to say China doesn't value diversity and kindness especially when China has 50+ minorities and over 200 languages. And if you actually visit China, you'll find that most people there are kind. What the government does is one thing but governments don't dictate cultures. Too much propaganda is skewing your view of the world. Other than that, good interview.

[@stephanieaquin2961]

What a wonderful interview. Mr Kisin is truly enlightened. So refreshing. He says loud what I am told to never dare thinking.

[@nullusanxietas2379]

So, I'm an intersectional feminist, I don't usually like Triggernometry, but I agree with his take on men and representation and masculinity. Men need to feel seen and heard again, and despite our differences, we need to work together. Lots of love to you all, I hope you're all doing okay. ❤

[@markalavoine841]

This is the best podcast ive seen to date. Konstantin talks so much sense and articulates it very well. I struggle to see how anyone would disagree with it.

[@annaclarence441]

I think Konstantin Kisin is awesome, thank you so much for having him on as your guest.

[@MichelePonte]

This is the coolest intro you've ever published!

[@patriciastapleton2625]

Great chat between two great chaps. Thank you.

[@irenalovesart4064]

As an ex soviet migrant to the West he is absolutely right. Perspective is everything

[@RoderickSpode]

And what prospective are you talking about?

[@irenalovesart4064]

@RoderickSpode that the West is better

[@99waterlilly]

Open, intelligent, honest, soul communication. Its alarming how starved we are of this basic need. Steven you are doing incredible work. Thank you ❤

[@jajo492]

This is music to my ears. Voice of reason. Thank you ❤ keep it up! Keep being a force for good in the world 🙏

[@OutRAjious]

brilliant elegant conversation 😊

[@Yolk-q1o]

What are the best interviews I've seen in a long time? Constantine is on point

[@alejoe84]

Looooool No

[@stephenbetley9596]

A crucially important guest. Thanks for bringing him on. One can argue that western society is past the tipping point. I struggle to make many with the inertia of blind apathy see this. Only when the freedoms that they blithely take for granted are taken away with a whimper do they ever wake up.😢

[@stacy-annmorgan6685]

I’m black and I’m trying to raise an alarm but all I get is censorship on liberal platforms. They delete my comments. I try to educate those around me. I surround myself with people of the same mindset and values. I have listened to the other side and they need to wake up.

[@janice68329]

I like to think that the loudest voices aren't necessarily the majority....

[@SG-ji5ij]

If they ever wakeup, or instead hold fast to their delusions.

[@scoonboon]

Are you taking the piss

[@ajm935]

#getwoke #staywoke