The Antikythera Mechanism - 2D

[@rlt94]

It still amazes me that they could reconstruct it with nothing to go by but that corroded mess...truly brilliant on the part of the researchers...

[@smatthewsauthor]

+itjustlookslikethis Advanced Xray technology

[@rich1051414]

+itjustlookslikethis There are a lot of written accounts of these devices already. This was the first actually found. This filled in the remaining blanks to allow them to make a recreation. The size, shape, and function was described in documents from the period, and the inner workings were discovered by xray'ing the remains. There was enough text left on the remains for a positive identification.

[@daveedbrooke5517]

There is a good BBC documentary on it.

[@aleramone23]

the MRI scan images are a huge help, you can clearly see the individual gears buried inside the rust

[@PurposePlastics]

Check out clicksprings channel on KZbin rebuild of the mechanism amazing!!

[@EagleScout1976]

Incredible. The ingenuity of ancient people is often underestimated.

[@Thanos_Kyriakopoulos]

ancient GREEK people that is...

[@ruowangjian8718]

Θάνος Κυριακόπουλος nah many ancient civilization had profound inventions and ideas, NOT just Greek

[@ruowangjian8718]

Θάνος Κυριακόπουλος if you really want to find out, you can search it yourself, but here is a brief list: The Lycurgus Cup, a 1,600-year-old jade green Roman chalice that changes colour depending on the direction of the light upon it, made in Rome China's ancient inventions: Paper Making 105 A.C. Movable Type Printing 960-1279 AD. Gunpowder 1000 A.D. Compass 1100 A.D. Alcohol 2000 BC－1600 BC. Mechanical Clock 725 A.D. Tea Production 2,737 BC. Silk 6,000 years ago. And Earthquake detector And there are some many others, just search and explore you will find out more

[@AmandaFromWisconsin]

Different civilizations developed differently for different reasons, and just because one may have had more "advanced" technology doesn't mean its people were in possession of superior genetics.

[@landofold]

It's a Greek name but a Roman invention you fucking nationalist.

[@halfmoon106]

Makes you wonder how much more old technology we lost.

[@ragon747]

Sure... we lost a lot I guess

[@danieljamesmead]

Teletext

[@noproblem2big337]

Count Dooku ...we lost so much that now we have people believing that the earth is flat...people are becoming dumber:(

[@GeorgeOConnorFilms]

The burning of the library of Alexandria sent human progress back 1000 years.

[@hmmm7150]

Count Dooku I don’t know much about space but can this device show that they new the world is a globe and not flat? Would they have known that we are not the center of the universe etc.

[@chrismorneau8188]

A feat of engineering not only for its time but the creation of the exact size of teeth and how many to get the exact rotations required to make everything work is just brilliant

[@eveei]

probably one of the most valuable items in ancient world considering the sheer manhours it must have taken to make such percise engineering without machines

[@70stunes71]

Excellent video... Well laid out, straight to the point, no stupid ads, toned down complimentary music in the background. Yes we have a winner, and a pattern the rest of the KZbin videos should follow. This mechanism is an amazing find, lays bare the facts, that ancient peoples were intelligent, and understood more about cosmology than we realize

[@94Mrmike]

Its kind of sad when you think of all the other inventions that were lost but never found. The chances of the Antikythera being found were so small it blows my mind.

[@darthclone7]

Preety sure the person didn't want to share it o the world. For why only make one?

[@catherinetodd]

darth, how do you know they "made only one?" Only one was discovered - so far!

[@giuseppeanoardi3973]

@@darthclone7 If you listened to the video you would have heard that those machines were quite known even in roman times. Sadly, wood and bronze/tin do not survive years very well.

[@dub6019]

darthclone7 to make another one the person needs to repeat the entire process by hand which is really tiring and expensive.

[@iii1298]

Dub Demand = More product

[@monkeysackskin]

The burning of the great library of Alexandria who knows what knowledge was lost. All knowledge of antiquity was stored there all gone in a single night

[@Floxbu]

Yeah, and Cleopatra broke down in tears and cursed her ancestors for not providing better protection for the books.

[@paulmilsom1092]

I think a bit longer than a single night,, the books and scrolls were so copious that they were distributed across the country to be burnt in the underfloor heating furnaces in cities, and it took them 6 months to burn them all..

[@johnl9067]

who's the master!

[@johnl9067]

@Jeremy Kirkpatrick I was replying to his avatar guy!

[@WJRHalyn-jw2ho]

Alexandria had been thru several destructions over the centuries. Most people only know about the FINAL "big burn". It was razed or looted some 7 or 8 times.

[@BaSsGaZ]

What's amazing about this is not the device itself, but the science behind it. The knowledge they must've had about how things work.

[@jimbaker5110]

It was created by aliens

[@ruffryders285]

ya i agree and i do believe we have it al wrong about the people who lived then, and i do believe they where alot smarter then we think the where. Look at egypt or the map of antartica with out ice there alot things that connot be explained but moderns scientist still have there opinions and then i think how the fuck did come up with that and al other theory's are wrong in there perspectives

[@dabrams84]

​​@@ruffryders285There are really good cheap books about the classics (ancient Greek and Latin writing) that you can get. You can find a website for a class taught about it by a college professor, then buy the books that they want their students to read but older editions and it will be cheaper. They were very smart and it is worth reading what they wrote.

[@Achilles5937]

Truly amazing!! The ancients were far more advanced in the classical sense than we think they were.

[@etebol]

whoever invented this was also the first watchmaker ever; the gears are so much like the ones found inside watches

[@yorusuyasoul69420]

the very first mechanical watch

[@irisdutra5033]

As I was thinking this, I read it lol

[@dancingtrout6719]

home made gears are much easier too make than people think..

[@psilocybe8135]

This was obviously the product of well established watchmaking industry. It wasn't the first of its kind, nor the first clockwork machine. These things were probably mass produced.

[@pipfox7834]

@Psilo Cybe and your evidence for that is....? sure, we can see the Romans already had watches because the movie Spartacus shows someone with a watch on. And a motorised ambulance in the background, LOL.

[@F-Man]

It really makes one wonder how many other devices like this may have been out there. This is literally a computer, produced over 2,000 years ago. Surely, it must have been unfathomably expensive to produce and to obtain, but, if somebody could produce one, surely there were other such devices. The ancients were nowhere near as primitive as many would believe.

[@duranchen3222]

not much as you think. the evident point to it been a expensive but still affordably tool for large ancient Greek shipping g....hmm lets call it "Company" .

[@hughsonautomotive3726]

Alien intervention. There is no way they could know those types of solar systems.

[@djengo77]

@Oceanic Dangernoodle Hey, Professor Troll, it literally is a computer. Do you really not understand that computers are devices used for computation? Only an abject idiot could, having watched this video, deny that the Antikythera device was used for computation.

[@djengo77]

@Oceanic Dangernoodle I called you an abject idiot. :D

[@shaniajackson7864]

Its not a computer. Its more similar to a watch or other time telling device

[@asid61]

I believe they had to cut all the gears by hand and with files back in those days. Incredible worksmanship must have gone into this.

[@mgoggin65]

Another insightful observation,Dave.Thanks.

[@zeiitgeist]

Anand Rajamani it is bronze, thus very likely it was all cast.

[@asid61]

zeiitgeist Oh, that's good to know.

[@asid61]

At some point things are made by hand. Like zeiitgeist said, it was likely cast; however the tools for making the cast must have been made by hand (probably a single-tooth profile). Furthermore, given the quality of some crafts in those days, I could completely see people filing gears by hand.

[@chaonengli]

+itjustlookslikethis What makes you think the Greeks couldn't have that kind of precision? The Greeks practiced surgery (Hippocrates, Galen, etc), which requires a great deal of precision, so it makes sense that they are able to use that precision to create the device.

[@sandramorey2529]

I love that the fine watch makers are interested in building a watch to be worn on the wrist from this machine. My dad, a watchmaker, would have been over the moon about this discovery.

[@BusinessMan1619]

Someone back then was absolutely Brilliant.

[@sitesdaniel1986]

Well put together short and sweet! Great

[@BudahOfBirmingham]

I think the fact that the ancients could produce such small mechanisms, tiny teeth and gears is astonishing

[@Roo-qg7nn]

Yes, a little too astonishing.

[@grifyn882]

just alien tech, nothing else...don't be fooled by modern lies

[@mehanikal5639]

@@grifyn882 It's really not that impressive. With mathematics and tools they had at that time they could easly produce it.

[@NeoNyder]

@@mehanikal5639 Even more incredible is that there are contemporary societies and cultures who still are incapable of creating a device of this sophistication now.

[@carpediem4887]

People of old were very clever

[@k9guyx2]

It's frustrating to think of the knowledge from ancient civilizations that was lost. Civilization does not progress in an orderly way, but advances and falls back. The usual cause of this is war and the suspicion of knowledge. Examples of the set backs to human progress are to be found throughout history, but the destruction of the library at Alexandria is a striking example. As Carl Sagan once remarked, (not quoting), had mankind avoided the wars that destroyed ancient knowledge, today we might very well be voyaging among the stars.

[@carolgebert7833]

"suspicion of knowledge" - aka religion.

[@martinfriesen5951]

carol gebert The story of this mechanism reveals its sponsors were very religious. "suspicion of religion" is just another form of "suspicion of knowledge" Suspicion just promotes further ignorance, so we need a flexible approach to really understand the cause behind ebbs and flows of technological advance

[@Jzjbahayjxsjshjsjjxuddj9922]

+Dawn Martin A code is a code, whether it's ink patterns on paper or magnetic fields on tape. If we managed to decode all of the proprietary codes used in the past, the modern world of electronic standards would be easy to decode.

[@rich1051414]

It still continues to this day. Conservatives claiming scientists are liars with ulterior motives, trying to suppress them with inconvenient 'facts', wanting to regress to an earlier technological state. It is so easy to see how this stuff happens.

[@shubhamjain8812]

hy.bi

[@-cfh-architector7963]

The Greatest Discovery in The History!

[@robinmason9002]

Ships captain: Hey can I borrow your Antikythera mechanism for my next sailing journey? Inventor: No problem, just make sure you look after it, it took many people literally years to make. Okay? Ships Captain: Yeah yeah, I promise

[@MrAwrsomeness]

"The future ages will wonder at us, just as the current age marvels at us today " Ancient Greek saying

[@yellow7221]

Bit egotistical for a bunch of people who didn't even have a proper number system

[@MrAwrsomeness]

@@yellow7221 bit egotistical for someone within sarrisa distance

[@yellow7221]

@@MrAwrsomeness to give them credit it's still better than the imperial system

[@georgianakopoulou6339]

@@yellow7221 Their 27-letter alphabet made it extremely easy to do even the most complex calculations.Check out Pythagoras and the Pythagorean maths, for example.

@@georgianakopoulou6339 The ancient greeks said that their writing system is the ”Pelasgian alphabet that was taken from the Phoenicians”.

[@thewr0ngchild]

This mechanism was obviously built for someone pretty important, so you have to think who would hold important positions in Greece at the time it was made. The fact it was found among other works of art suggests this to be almost certainly the case. It was built for someone who collected fine arts, but unlike statues and other treasures, this item had many purposes other than just aesthetic. The original idea is likely to have come from someone wanting convenience, and a practical purpose for the device. An astronomer maybe?. It's workings have far more in common with clocks and clock making than anything previously used for astronomical purposes as it did not keep time, but it was designed to predict events in time, such as eclipses, Olympic Games, moon phases and other astronomical data. It may have had some religious function too, such as predicting moon phases for religious celebrations or important religious events. I just wish it had reached it's intended owner, then we would have the full, working mechanism, but I think the scientists who have and still are researching this are doing a fantastic job using modern technology to find out how this amazing item worked. Bringing in clock makers was also a very good idea, as they were able to compare it with modern day timepieces. This I feel was a timepiece, just not one for keeping time as we keep time in minutes, seconds, hours etc. People today have a primitive view of our ancient ancestors, and do not credit them with the credit they deserve. This is a work of genius, just because it does not have Einstein or Tesla's name on it does NOT make it any less genius. Genius is something that has been with humans for as long as we have walked the Earth. The ancient Egyptians, Romans, Greeks, Mayans, Inca, Aztec etc, they ALL had genius. The Mayan time keeping system is another fascination, a it brings both religion and practicality together, something people today struggle to do. Whoever made this will sadly probably never be credited with the credit they deserve. So instead of thinking of our ancestors carrying clubs and living in caves, or being dirty, uncivilized people, think of them just as we see ourselves today, because one day, we too will be ancient peoples, being studied and wondered over, just as we do these great civilizations.

[@catherinetodd]

vual, he's not referring to ancient Greeks as "savages." He's talking about the "caveman" mystique people hold about "ancient peoples." You don't need to insult someone because you did not understand what they are saying.

[@delorbb2298]

Not necessarily. It could have been an object that was regularly bought and sold. Whoever owned the ship could have had a purchase order for so many barrels of wine from shop so&so, a couple of statues from shop whatever and this mechanism. All lined up for his/her customers.

[@levedia]

totally agree with you.

[@costascostas1760]

@Arthur Valkan Macedonians were Greek too. Just like Athenians, Spartans etc are considered "greek". Modern Macedonian identity has nothing to do with the ancient identity, just like modern greek identity has nothing to do with the ancient Greek identity. With respect to Macedonia today, so many nations have history related to the region it is fascinating, and a testament to how things change over the centuries. No nation can legiimally demand monopoly over carrying the true identity of ancient macedonia regardless of what they believe. Modern Macedonians don't even speak the language, part of ancient macedonia is in Bulgaria Albania Greece etc,. Modern Greeks have an advantage because the ancient capital of macedonia is in modern greece and ncient Macedonians were very closely linked to the rest of ancient Greeks. Still, i believe that modern greece cannot demand that ancient macedonia belongs to them even though it was part of ancient Greece. That's my thoughts, simplistic and inclusive.

[@costascostas1760]

@Arthur Valkan you just acknowledged what I was saying, thanks. Modern Macedonians are not true Macedonians, just like modern Greeks are not true ancient Greeks (which include ancient Macedonians by current definitions). And you are right, if an artifact is found in Greece, it is assumed it is greek until proven otherwise, it is logical and not wrong. Not sure why you think it is bad to do so.

[@robinj.9329]

And everyone thinks our ancient ancestors were "Backward"? These people were far more "Advanced" then we ever suspected! Such a technology can barely be reproduced today. Bravo!

[@MrDogfish83]

A small handful were more advanced, most were backward, same as today

[@dejected107]

Can you imagine the devastation of the inventor when he found out his Antikythera machine had sunken to the bottom of the sea from a common shipwreck.

[@antikythera2012]

This was not a so common shipwreck, it was carrying too many luxury goods.

[@puncheex2]

The ship was probably hauling booty taken during Rome's conquering of Greece back to Rome to be feted in the victory parage and then distributed to the powerful. It is mostly artwork.

[@kahunakool2155]

You must wonder if the inventor or inventors made more than one. Unlike a painting or sculpture machines and mechanisms follow a set blueprint that can be reproduced. Finding these blueprints would be an even bigger feat than the mechanism itself.

[@mottopanukeiku7406]

True. However, the bright side is that the shipwreck passed on this wonder to us 21 centuries later. I do not know if another such device survives other than this one. I would like to think that the inventor/craftsman somehow has eternal satisfaction that his (or her?) work was discovered, preserved, understood and appreciated so long after its creation. Incredible story- glad there are folks around with the tenacity to reverse-engineer this.

[@robomatt1600]

Must not have been a very good navigation device, since they crashed the boat into a rocky island.

[@surreycpr]

There must have been more than one of these - Also there must have been predecessors and later additions. You don't just wake up one morning and build this, it's the product of the advancement of a technology that has to start with a much simpler device, just like our tech today.

[@highpsi7463]

But also possible. That they were advanced enough to make 1 offs. That would be mind blowing if true.

[@remali26]

Greeks had machines that worked with steam and gear wheels. Search for Heron of Alexandria . Base on that, this thing doesn't seems that impossible although antikethira mechanism is earlier than these machines that I'm talking about.

[@ΟΟύτις]

Propably a prototype.We never found something like this

[@jhayalexander8982]

Exactly. If as narrator says, there are most likely lots more of such similar mechanisms, all in ship wrecks galore. We merely have not found them. This is just one of who knows how many? How they devised this, back then is beyond me! They were like: da Vinci's way B.C. Right? See, thing's were "on a roll" back then. Then, Boom! Christianity came along, and put us all back hundreds of yrs. And, it was the Muslim Civilization that saved all the Greek and Roman's writings, on: Science, Philosophy, Medicine, Mathematics, Geometry, Algebra, etc....that the Catholic Church sought to obliterate from history. Especially the fact that the Islamic Culture had adopted the Indian /Hindu numbers, including "zero", also advanced primitive "heathen christian" Europe, by a long shot!

[@gobira26]

@@jhayalexander8982 stfu, most of science and history was preserved and improved with the suport of the church

[@pa13na8a]

Absolutely gorgeous and informative video, It was our pleasure to share it with our subscribers on our FB group- Greece All About Holidays. Thank you!)

[@the10thleper]

This is almost beyond belief. Absolutely brilliant, the incredible accuracy. I saw another special about this, so incredible.

[@dandailey9179]

Actually, according to Simon Winchester, "The device, as model tested by the legions of fascinated modern analysts, turns out to be woefully, shamefully, uselessly inaccurate. One of the pointers, which supposedly indicates the position of Mars, is on many occasions thirty-eight degrees out of true."

The Antikythera - The most exciting archaeological artifact ever.

[@rickyrick5586]

Harry Kiralfy Broe maybe second.. there has been a recovered ufo from an archeological dig .

[@gopherstate777]

@@rickyrick5586 I would like to see that.

[@danMdan]

Add the “Rosetta Stone”

[@MemoirEnchordisepicmusic]

One of the masterpieces of the ancient Greeks.Only majestic...

[@starkiller9897]

Truly inspiring to think of the masterpiece this was and yet it was made in ancient times by ancient Greeks. There knowledge is astounding and we only have fragments of there awesome works, so much was lost. Yet Greece is considered the foundation of the modern world this goes to show how advanced in every field they truly were!! The Antikithara is truly a masterpiece that even today astounds!!

[@user-Prometheus]

Greeks were, literally, something out of this world. Superhumans.

[@LadyGreySpacePirate]

What a fascinating device! And does anyone else feel a little creeped out about the eyes on those statues??

[@nickfontana2801]

Even the sundial is too sophisticated for me. Wow that's one awesome invention!

[@trillrifaxegrindor4411]

you are extremely simple minded then,aren't you?

[@snatermans]

Very interesting! Not only to see the device that was years ahead of it time, but also the multiplex wood from the box.

[@dustinthony3524]

So that's where the Dwemer went...

[@schloops8473]

lol!

[@carlyork355]

I knew it!!

[@joestitz539]

Dwemer ?

[@carlyork355]

@@joestitz539 it is a reference to a video game series, the Elder Scrolls. The Dwemer were like machines that ran off gears and clockwork.

[@amateurwave3593]

@@carlyork355 the dwemer were elves that would create machines

[@christopherkuhns609]

Technology such as this was not supposed to exist at that early time. And yet here it is!

[@fightfannerd2078]

Ikr blows my mind

[@godlessblessings7020]

Beautiful thank you very MUCH for the detail and hard recreative work on this aged instrument!!

[@supernerdgamer7959]

I'm imagining an ancient Grecian explaining: "yeah... and your weed goes here."

[@ajiibshah3760]

They were so high they shipwrecked

[@thetoad7367]

I’ve just read that comment on joe organs page, you just copied it 🤦‍♂️

[@princewes]

@@thetoad7367 yes. He did.

[@ViceVersace]

Wrong, they didn't hide their weed because simply there were tries everywhere.

[@g..._anthony27]

♻️♻️♻️♻️♻️ recycled comment

[@kalleklp7291]

Absolutley awesome..! It would be challanging to make such a machine with todays tools, but someone did that with tools at hand a few thousand years ago. This must be the first mechanical computer ever.

[@mmedeuxchevaux]

+Kalle Klæp apparently, other amazing machines like this have been lost to oblivion. i love this one though! people are capable of amazing things.

[@chaonengli]

It's highly unlikely the Antikythera mechanism is the world's first mechanical computer, seeing as its small and portable. The first mechanical computers were likely much larger. As their knowledge improved, the Greeks were then able to scale their computers down to a portable version. Unfortunately, because copper was such a valuable material back then, most of the computers were likely eventually melted down for their copper. As one researcher said, we are lucky to have one surviving mechanical computer from antiquity.

[@kalleklp7291]

chaonengli I see your point. A civilisation clever enough to build such things, would of course go the easy way first. I think they made models out of wood, saw if it was any good. After the wooden models, some bigger models were made out of metal. It could be more common metals that were easily mallable like tin or zinc. Remember aluminium was not available by that time. When the bigger models were functioning and their precision lay withing reasonable parameters, the "real thing" was created. All those steps from start to the finished mechanism, would be a joint venture between craftsman, scientists and matematisions.

[@lvstoneman]

I would think to build it out of such a raw and precious material they most certainly put a lot of confidence in it and their finished product unlike it's more than likely wooden predecessors.. :-) The mechanical aspect such as the gears and such, had to be not only accurate, but reliable and durable when you look at the importance of precisely calculating distance, supplies, and soldiers as they did in the worlds first odometer.. Mistakes & breakdowns for mechanisms like these could prove to be very costly.. I believe they still have the tower still standing for the worlds first accurate mechanical timekeeper.. A lot to be said about those little gears and mechanisms whether it was an accurate depiction of our universe that surrounds us or not, which somehow, I believe it was..

[@marmorealcandors]

Would definitely buy an Antikythera watch if ever it's reconstructed and modernized.

[@antikythera2012]

There is one! Check this: www.hublot.com/antikythera/

[@jipvanderpols5264]

Antikythera - Anticythère - Αντικύθηρα - 安提凯希拉

[@YPOC]

Keep an eye out for the KZbin channel Clickspring

[@jaqssmith1666]

they are called chronographs, my dude. chances are you'd prefer a smartphone.

[@mrnobody4147]

hahah

[@glennjoshua9950]

It would be great to see the objects they've found but have yet to reveal to the public.

[@georgiosdem8443]

The beginning of wisdom is the search, the ancient Greek philosopher Socrates told us.

[@mikeelp23]

ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL!!!

[@poigmhahon]

a more recent dating puts its age at 205 B.C. through calculating the astronomical dates embedded in the mechanism. an interesting glimpse of ancient knowledge, perhaps a shard of what was lost at the Library of Alexandria.

[@genekelly8467]

Heron of Alexandria was a superstar inventor of the Ancient World-he invented thermal machines, geartrains, etc.-but nobody followed up on his work. Instead, the West descended into the "Dark Ages"-almost a 1000 years of ignorance and stagnation.

[@mathlessons7428]

@@genekelly8467 But Heron lived way later. This machine probably has something to do with Hipparchus and/or Archimedes.

[@blocc_nova746]

I've heard that if Greece never fell, humans would already be traveling across the galaxy!

[@eons8941]

That's a lie Greeks loved fighting among each other they stopped when Alexander the great United them after he died they started fighting each other up until the byzantine empire fell

[@drekelley2352]

Greece didn't make this or anything

[@andrejohnson6731]

Well, the Greeks also invented 4n4l s3ks, so a mixed bag I guess.

[@blocc_nova746]

@@andrejohnson6731 That's merely another advancement.

[@TheGabriel1351]

Blame christianity.

[@mjj6127]

I am stunned by the quality of this video posted 11 years ago compared to that of a mermaid /ufo caught on camera 6 months/1 year ago.

[@djshopping]

digital media not get old, adn you are make a comparison between a studio produced video and a event captured movie?

[@luistpuig]

Very proud of my Roman and Greek ancestors... they were ahead of their time...

[@alecxislara5642]

Who’s here after hearing about it on Joe Rogan Podcast? Lol

[@steffenmaa3832]

Look for the same thing they rebuild with LEGO, that’s blow my mine!

[@jacobjenks9768]

Dito!

[@IContainMultitudes]

Who's Joe Rogan?

[@jjojo2004]

ME!! 🤣🤣

[@joshdonis9056]

yup! lol

[@rigidfinger]

My mind is officially boggled! When I see some of the other artifacts I confess to being amazed. The skills that went into making that mechanism we can only try to comprehend.It had to be made using other mechanisms or machines that we can only imagine.

[@elbmw]

Actually, it was fashioned by hand, using files to cut the right number of teeth in the gears and some fine craftsmanship.

[@mrmyorky5634]

@@elbmw I agree that it could have be made by a skilled craftsman using files and a watchmakers lathe, but iron and steel had not been invented at this time.

[@elbmw]

@@mrmyorky5634 The device was made with Bronze. Iron was discovered during the Bronze Age. I don't know where you got steel from as nobody mentioned that the device contains that.

[@mrmyorky5634]

@@elbmw I was referring to steel being needed in order to manufacture the files used to cut the gears. Not in the actual Antikythera mechanism.

[@elbmw]

@@mrmyorky5634 Apparently, they used either Bronze or Iron tools.

[@Pondo1221]

Wow. Such an amazing machine with such an amazing fate. Mindblowing that such an exquisite machine named the Antikythera Mechanism would end up on a ship that crashed and sank on the coast of Antikythera.

[@greenpower2412]

there were just too many created...probably even more complicated...it was a matter of time...

[@puncheex2]

Actually, no. It was the sea that preserved it for us, while its landed brothers were melted down for their bronze during the dark ages. That is why for a similar reason, Archimedes' Palimpsest made it to us, when a monk recycled it for use in a hymnal. Archimedes was said to have posessed a similar mechanism which was sent to Rome after his murder and the sacking of Syracuse, and was then lost.

[@markwarren515]

it was named that because that's where it was discovered

[@darthclone7]

puncheex2 where did it say that archemedies had a similar device

[@ingerek6198]

Www. ancient-forums. com

[@blackbird5634]

Time, the sea, and erosion has created statues that truly seem in mortal distress or just simple yearning. Their stares are intense, and their body contortions are in mid-motion and compelling to look at.

[@ДенисУсков-д8ш]

The ancient technologies was more deep, than many thinking before.

[@WillOfMyD]

This is why I love science!

[@angeloparis7963]

Not really surprised that the Greek world had such advanced technology. After all Ben Hur was filmed in a chariot race wearing his wrist watch. :)

[@onemanarmyoma0155]

Yes, and they drove cars back then too.

[@salahaddinhashimalhusam7697]

Yes Rolex was common back then.

[@RasPutintheGreat]

Haha

[@johnking9903]

In keeping with the time, however, Heston's wrist watch did have Roman numerals.

[@igorvoloshin3406]

@@salahaddinhashimalhusam7697 heh, in Greek 'roloi' means 'wrist watch', so...

[@geletmote]

Ancients Greeks were were full of wisdom, This is truly remarkable

[@mgoggin65]

I knew a Greek back in the 90s.Loved him like a brother.Tell me,do any Greek last names not end with an S ?

[@geletmote]

Nice to hear.plenty heres a few Kyriacou, Philipou, also mines doesnt end in S

[@mgoggin65]

Thanks Peter.Those names seem like they're missing the 'sis' on the end,but being American,I don't much about Greece,sure looks beautiful on TV.

[@melnibone1]

zorak65 our names do, not our surnames. ex. petros , kwstas, kuriakos, alekos , ilias , nikos , leonidas, marios and so on

[@melnibone1]

actually he is wrong and you are correct. every greek male name ends in s. it isnt kuriakou, philippou . they are kuriakos, philippos. this rule doesnt aply to female names though. cheers

[@stevencain5322]

All the measurement , the teeth on all the gears. Amazing.

[@benjaminrivera3190]

Thank you for this - its short and to the point. - FINALLY. Thanks!

[@elbmw]

Why? Do you suffer from Attention Deficit Disorder? I just got through watching a Stanford talk on the mechanism by Tony Freeth that lasted 1:48:50 then came here. The devil is in the detail and to learn the detail one needs patience, perseverance and above all a long attention span. Hope this helps you in your future endeavours.

[@sandpquan]

@@elbmwThis video is introductory. Normal people don’t watch videos over an hour long unless they know they are interested.

[@elbmw]

@@sandpquan Maybe, but is it because "normal people" suffer with short attention spans? In which case is that the norm these days? Seriously grates on me that supposedly "normal people" lack the necessary attention span to learn something. As for being interested, if they weren't, then why come here?

[@JohnSmith-ok9sn]

I saw a documentary about it some 20 years ago, on NG, and back then, I was completely fascinated with it. Amazing...

[@guylstephenson]

We always tend to think the ancients had primitive technologies and were far less advanced or intelligent than us. Then new evidence surfaces that strips away our own ignorance to reveal they were far more advanced and capable than we give them credit for. This find is exciting, astounding and very revealing of the brilliant minds that existed anciently. Totally cool. More is sure to be found.

[@latebloomer6957]

Support todays scientist , don't spread poisonous gases , reduce your bad habits don't fly all over the phoquen place , stay home and spend time with your family. Buy cycles for the family with all the saved money , spot flying all over the place ignorantly spewing bad gas ...instead stay home and read the HUMANURE book otherwise have a nice day , i"ll like you be a good person and stop destroying the planet's atmosphere . Take your kids for a walk around your neighborhood or stay home , cook , get back on you tube...let the good times roll hehe

[@chaonengli]

Correct. Even Stone Age peoples are far from stupid in terms of thinking. They tend to have an encyclopedic knowledge of their local flora and fauna, rivaling that of a biology professor in a university. Those who say our ancestors were stupid don't know what their talking about.

[@ShadowAspect_]

Guy, I thought then when I was a youngster, are you 12 or are you so ignorant?

[@vualgrimoire4822]

Guy Stephenson anyone with any brains doesn't consider ancient Greek or Roman cultures as backward. Read a few books, ffs.

[@salahaddinhashimalhusam7697]

And we think that we are the ones who started tech era. Technology has been there for millinums

[@iancanty9875]

This is a rather limited description. It didn’t mention its most ingenious piece of design, which was a means of offsetting the axle of one of the cogs so that it’s speeds up or slows down at various points of its rotation. I can’t remember how it worked & I’m disappointed that this documentary never explained it.

[@brianmccarthy5557]

How did they make the gesrs snd other parts of the mechanism? This implies a relatively high standard of metallurgical knowledge, great machining expertise, the mathematical knowledge necessary to create gearing tables and the existence of machining tools we didn't know existed at the time. It also implies they were capable of creating other mechanisms and had at least one workshop of high expertise with sophisticated equipment and staff. Where was it? Who built this? Finding the site might lead to other discoveries.

[@REDLINE4WD.]

I literally can not fathom how this was made in the era it was. The gear ratio mathematics alone are incredible, if any of those gears were made a fraction of a mm incorrectly it wouldn't operate accurately. I have to wonder if the ship was sunk due to ill intent.

[@2LateIWon]

clickspring is going to do this in 2017 cant wait!!!!

[@dieselstruck]

Yup, ClickSpring made me look into this too.

[@robertlanham8076]

2LateIWon yep and it's going to be awesome

[@Something-tx6cl]

You had to wait years for a dude reconstructing it for your brain to be sufficiently interested to do research on it? Newbs

[@vinayakaenterprises5488]

six. FILAm

[@erikandersson1647]

The ship's "Navigational Computer". The fact that someone found it at all, suggests they were relatively common instruments used for navigation purposes on high-class ships. Astronomical data is imperative when you're using the sky to navigate the waters.

[@joestitz539]

No. UNcommon !

[@shedjammer87]

They didn't have television back then, so they had time to create brilliant things.

[@dancingtrout6719]

@ΕΣΟΠΤΡΟΝ nor radio how could you miss that, Radio was everything

[@FernandoMoodyMusic]

I heard about this on JRE podcast. Never looked it up or searched for it anywhere. It just popped up in my recommended.

[@mikelabor8155]

That is some very impressive gear ratio work!

[@Dave-xc7cj]

Yes saw this years ago, would be be great if you gave credit and acknowledged the people that actually deciphered the thing, and developed the techniques to make this possible.

[@jaca5289]

What other technology prevails that we have yet to discover.. Very neat documentary and well put

[@johndough5192]

Who talks like that? Lol! Playing too much Assassin’s creed origins or some sht

[@01sapphireGTS]

Ancient high understanding and execution of supreme workmanship. The library of Alexandria may have housed the technical drawings for this device.

[@JJ-rp2df]

Incredible how this complex movement, crafted from ancient tools and materials, still challenges our top modern day watchmakers.

[@pureblood6310]

Imagine how much more advanced we would be if it wasn’t lost. Makes you wonder !

[@1sydman1]

Greeks have such a rich culture. Were it not for them many many things would still be undiscovered. Its a crying shame what has happened to this once amazing race of people.

[@hectork-l9670]

+donald parker Greece is in a very strategical geographical position. It's in between 3 continents (Europe, Asia, Africa). Also, it's land is rich in resources and the weather and the soil are perfect for agriculture. That lured many conquerors for thousands of years. The Persians, the Romans, the Ottomans, the Germans, the British etc. To this day, the Turks keep invading our airspace (I don't have anything against Turkish people, but their government is a bitch). When the rest of Europe was in the era of Renaissance, we were still conquered by the Ottoman Empire. Much later, we drove off the fascist invaders of Italy in the Greco-Italian war, only to be occupied by the Nazi Germany afterward. Later we had civil war and then a dictatorship supported by foreign and local interests. You can imagine how these conflicts affected modern Greece. One of the worst crimes is that we became a member of the European Union. The EU didn't allow us to make our own products. We produce goods that instead of using them we import others. As I told you, Greece has the ability to stand of it's own. They didn't let us. Every freaking nation in the world has a debt, but they chose Greece as an experiment for the policies of austerity. It's spreading to other counties as well and it's not the Greek people's fault. Official statistics show that we work more that any other European nation, but we get paid shit. Who's fault is it? I accuse the Greek and the European elite, not the peoples, for the situation. With austerity, the rich become richer and the poor poorer (that's the nature of the freaking capitalism!). source for the statistics: www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2011/dec/08/europe-working-hours

[@hectork-l9670]

+donald parker Oh, also the fact that we became Christians drove us back (not that I'm a pagan, lol)

[@1sydman1]

Hector K - L Letting in refugees was the last and final nail in the greek coffin

[@1sydman1]

Hector K - L you have plenty of muslims now

[@hectork-l9670]

donald parker What were we supposed to do? Let them drown in Aegean? Don't forget that the west is also responsible for the Syrian crisis.

[@Steve20127]

Marvellous!! A real, live narrator too; not a robot, for a change.

[@owenjinxy]

I saw the documentary.....they read the symbols....and defined it to the city of Syracuse. And who was there then? A genius..a man way ahead of his time..the greatest treasure of the city.... Archemedes

[@NikkiGloom]

People think Mayans and Greeks and Egyptians were dumb, but some of these great civilizations created things we use in our everyday. i have learning disabilities and even I understand how this works a bit.

[@t6hp]

No one thinks that lol. They were extremely religious though, kind of like some less developed parts of the world today. But I guess people will always want a good story to help them cope with life.

[@samhazen97]

But can it run Crysis?

[@greatcesari]

Sam Hazen Haha, but it's a clock not a computer

[@JohnSmith-js7ji]

CEsar it's definitely a computer, just an analog computer.

[@jebskin]

It has 3 teraflops of computing power, so I'd think so.

[@avs6362]

Sam Hazen No, but it can tell you that it's time to play. :D

[@veronicabill2256]

Rofl

[@andymate2006]

Wow. This is amazing. I would love to see one of these in real life.

[@barryholohan5601]

Buy one at Athens Museum...I think 130euros

[@Smashdalip]

Humans weren't as primitive as mainstream history often potrays them to be. They are quick to point out the barbarian aspects of ancient history, but we havent changed all that much. We just have different technology and developed new "fancy" language to explain our environment, but we are the same old humans. Even though our technology has advanced, I believe that conciously we have regressed.

[@blanhamwdl53]

More puzzling is why was it so important for them to have this information? Especially this precise?

[@mrmyorky5634]

True, sailors and adventurers from around the world have sailed the oceans without it until the Sextant was invented and even that only gave them their latitude.

[@tasost]

Imagine only this, all the knowledge we have for ancient greeks are from 5% of their work they had done and write. The other 95% we lost it

[@nezircaglar2381]

antikythera mechanism... old greece ... these are the things made a person makes proud of being a nation... not wars and war machines..

[@garycallitsis504]

Words of greatness my friend....peace be with you.

[@libertasautmors8995]

@John Smith "doing nothing", someone is jelly.

[@youcube2372]

@John Smith what

[@snoozy04]

They were so intelligent thousands of years ago, yet today we have people like flat earthers.

[@djshopping]

all ancient civilizations, Greeks included, believed in FE

[@marsa7600]

@@djshopping Nope. Greeks were the first to find the Earth is actually spherical.

[@testdriver3146]

MGGA ! Make Greece Great Again ! ...or as the folks down there would say: Κάνε την Ελλάδα Μεγάλη Και πάλι

[@georgemokbel5844]

You need to make Kemt ( Egypt) great again first because Greece took most science from Egypt

[@ΤΗΛΕΜΑΧΟΣΑΘΗΝΑΙΟΣ]

@@georgemokbel5844 ποιος εχτισε την μεμφιδσ? Οταν δεν γνωριζεται ας μην λρτε εξυπναδες

[@ΤΗΛΕΜΑΧΟΣΑΘΗΝΑΙΟΣ]

Μεμφιδα ....

[@hellfirepictures]

@@georgemokbel5844 Don't talk crap George. One doesn't 'take' science and no single nation was the keeper of it. Scientific breakthroughs happened in every single Eurasian civilisation, with the same discovery often being made multiple times in very different places. As for this wonderful mechanism - there is nothing from Egypt or any other Middle-Eastern/African nation to suggest they had the knowledge and skills to craft such accurate gear-based devices. So stop disrespecting the skill of the designer of this piece by making nonsensical claims. In fact, you disrespect ALL of science by trying to place national boundaries upon it.

[@JWRay-xh9wl]

Can you imagine what else we will find that shows us we know little about our real history.

[@EnglishLearnersHere]

This is so incredible. Will share this amazing video in my English Learners Here Facebook Page. Thanks.

[@missymoonwillow6545]

Reminds me of the world that final fantasy 3 exists in. Terra, Locke, Edgar... good game. I think this just inspired me to go replay it. Thank you, thumbs up for this.

[@Noaxe_Tegrinde]

At least the device wasn't wrecked, like the Internet, by pushing adverts in your face at every turn of the handle..... NoAxe

[@georgechristoforou991]

There must have been a progression of improving prototypes that ended up with the development of this device.

[@mrmyorky5634]

Perhaps this one was the prototype of the Omega Seamaster watch that was being tested for its waterproof qualities?

[@savvasgamingchannel5062]

@@mrmyorky5634 Alas, the ancient Greeks hadn't quite mastered the concept of waterproofness.

[@bretdouglas9407]

This was a great documentary

[@nazmulamin5132]

The maturity of the comment section has blown my mind.

[@antonkider7360]

Lucky enough it sank and can be admired today.

[@Jean-Pierre-Villard]

It could be from Archimedes in Syrakus, in any way it´s just fantastic, i´m dreaming of visiting Greece....

[@Onoma314]

It was based on much older knowledge coming from Babylonian / Akkadian / Chaldean astronomers The Antikythera mechanism computed the Saros cycle periodicity, this requires the Synodic month length, you see this in the largest gear { 223 teeth = 223 months in the Saros cycle } This system of mathematics also found it's way into the infamous passage from Plato's republic, describing what is known as " Plato's number " { For divine births } This passage was referring to " Molad " intervals { Births of the new Moon }, which also requires the Synodic month length the Saros is calculated with All of this knowledge in the ancient world came out of the Babylonian " System B " cuneiform, a base 60 system for astronomy purposes, itself based on knowledge of the distribution of the integers in Pi { in base 10 } Hence the first mathematical value of the Hebrew word " month " { chodesh } = 314 ...these topics are really no mystery at all with some study.... :P

[@haxaan9886]

Oh Jesus! Do you have any proof of all this about older knowledge coming for others and you just blah blah blah?

[@Onoma314]

Yes, I do. Are you prepared to refute a mathematical proof, or are you just running your mouth on the internet ?

[@rayrios42]

Nobody fucks with the Jesus! (sorry, I had to)

[@Onoma314]

ray rios lol

[@Onoma314]

No, I'm not Jewish, I don't associate with religious nuts You on the other hand, are talking straight out of your ass, and if we were to meet in a formal debate setting, you would quickly find yourself in deep waters

[@m118lr]

The MATH that went into this technology rivals virtually anything produced mechanically today..

[@larrybarnes3920]

Clickspring built a copy and made a series of videos. Absolute craftsmanship.

[@StormB67]

Amazing.. Truly amazing..

[@alancarnell2747]

I'd prefer the original. Sometimes smaller isn't better.

[@VMA225]

Just Brilliant !!!

[@NinjaSushi2]

This 2000 year old object has taught watchmakers new tricks. That blows my mind. They're using technology and ideas that we still haven't rediscovered.

[@mistermysteryman107]

And yet ignorant people actually think ancient peoples couldn’t build the pyramids….when they are just literally stone blocks stacked on top of one another. But somehow nobody thinks this isn’t beyond ancient man’s abilities. This device is INFINITELY more complex than stacking stone blocks.