The APEXINNO Haptic Gun Stocks - In-Depth Review

[@TheConstruct_VR]

These are a lot of fun guys! Let me just say, these are NOT CHEAP. But they’re better than the leading one just to try this out. They're not perfect but they're a blast when you get the hang of things. I tried my best to show you but this is something you have to feel to appreciate. Please let me know in the comments if you'd like to keep seeing accessory reviews, I'll do my best to bring value, and as always... Thanks for watching.

[@En1gmatic1]

Add some kind of thicker like velcro pad tape to thr back of the trigger between the pistol grip trigger and the controller trigger. That way the controller trigger is more closer to 1 to 1 with the haptic trigger

[@TheConstruct_VR]

@@En1gmatic1 thanks. yep I’m going to tinker with it. I’m finding that it really depends on the game. Some games that don’t require that full squeeze feel nearly perfect. Also I’m noticing the gun stocks triggers are getting a little less stiff the more I use them.. improving the responsiveness a bit. I can certainly see Apex inno doing a 2nd iteration on these.

[@thiagodecco2355]

Try 3d printing a spacer of 3 or 4 mm , it might solve the trigger delay , as it would keep the quest trigger pre pressed a bit

[@TheConstruct_VR]

@@thiagodecco2355 yeah it will have to be perfect. Honestly I just need the trigger to go a bit further back. You can prompt it by squeezing just a bit harder. It may be smaller than 3mm at the end of the day

[@dorjedriftwood2731]

Just put a spacer between the gun and controller trigger to get it to push the controller faster sooner. Just put a bit of board and tape. Or a little felt pad or rubber pad you can buy a sheet of them for a few bucks at the grocery store.

[@PolyShifter]

Put a thicker piece of plastic behind the trigger, and then a small rubber lining on the slide. It would potentially be pretty easy to mod these into something even better.

[@TheConstruct_VR]

Yes. It has to be Juuuuust right, anything too thick starts to depress the controller which impacts the “full pull” I am finding that it’s specific to HL Alyx other games don’t suffer as much from the delay.

[@JorgeLTE]

Very high quality review. It also felt pretty honest. Thank you.

[@TheConstruct_VR]

Glad it helped! Always keeping it honest here.

[@MateoThePro]

Martin Luther King reviewing VR accessories now 😂😂😂

[@TheConstruct_VR]

Hahaha I usually get Ja Rule. 😂 But I’ll take Dr. King ✊🏽

[@thePOHLER7]

Ohh snap, I see both now.

[@StrumVogel]

Lol

[@tnmsloony]

Bro I’m cryinnggggggggg “I have a dreammmmmm that one day… VR accessories will be judged by the content of their character… and not the colah of their skinnnnn.”😂

[@TheConstruct_VR]

@@tnmsloony hahahahahahahhah💀

[@SCFD-ARCANE]

Keep it up man love the content. You really seem to have the passion and knowledge for this type of content. Also you seem to be a great dad❤

[@TheConstruct_VR]

I am a true enthusiast! And thanks, it’s the only way to be for the little ones 💪🏾

[@DW-iv6cc]

leaving a comment to help with the algorithm. you are super knowledgeable and have a knack for filming these kinds of products effectively. I dont even care about this or VR. good luck bro only good things to say

[@TheConstruct_VR]

@@DW-iv6cc 🤜🤛 thanks so much

[@erebostd]

2:30 they shouldn’t use a motor to move the sled, the should only use one to tension a spring or so that releases when you push the trigger. Then it would be more 1:1…

[@TheConstruct_VR]

Yeah, not a bad idea. I think the next iteration will need some way to adjust it. It’s varying from game to game. I’m tempted to do a x weeks later video because I’m noticing quite a few variations

[@nij2k]

Love your honest opinions about everything and how down to earth you are man, this channel was an awesome find, reckon you'll be racking up subscribers in no time, just remember your early subscribers 😁

[@TheConstruct_VR]

Happy to keep delivering the vids. How can I forget yall!? Hahah..you guys gave me the encouragement to keep going! Thanks for being here 🤜🤛

[@nij2k]

@@TheConstruct_VR haha no worries mate, keep going, you've got a great combination of great content, honest opinions, a great personality and greatly put together videos, you can't lose

[@fabriceraharomanana3317]

I was like Jarule playing video games? 😂😂

[@TheConstruct_VR]

@@fabriceraharomanana3317 it’s Murdaaaah 🤣

[@fabriceraharomanana3317]

​@@TheConstruct_VR 😂😂😂

[@blazingames5935]

im glad someone beat me to it

[@AlanPhung]

Dead 😂

[@theVRpilot]

Dude, love this review, the quality , honesty. Before I found the DR king comment and sub, I leaned over and showed my wife to my man Ja Rule reviewing Vr products! Lol Subbed brother. And sharing this!

[@TheConstruct_VR]

@@theVRpilot hahahahah. Thanks for watching and welcome! The Ja Rule thing is hilarious. Dr king took me out 😆 But I’ll take the engagement. 🤷🏽‍♂️🤣🤣 It’s Murdaaaahhhh! 😁

[@cinergiflims]

They need to include a couple of small pads in the box to fine tune the trigger fire point. Maybe you could try and stick something behind the trigger.

[@ThumpertTheFascistCottontail]

a small piece of foam rubber etc. stuck to the back of the trigger might do the trick.

[@jaym3286]

Put a tiny bead of silicone between the slide and the back plate, that should kill the sound issue when you pull the trigger

[@richiebricker]

Good Review , I think $150 would be overpriced. You should try a spacer in-between the triggers, a lil peice o plastic, a shim of wood or even some folded up cardboard would get You closer to one to one with the vr controller. You might be able to get a "Touch-trigger" and that would be cool

[@TheConstruct_VR]

Yea! I’ve tinkered with it a bit. I’m finding it GREATLY depends on the game. HL Alyx and Robo red all need a full squeeze from 0 to 100 for the hammer to drop. So when I add something it starts the trigger at like 89% and messes with firing. Something else wild is I’m thinking the give on the triggers is stating to flex a bit after more use. Zombieland:Headshot Fever doesn’t seem to have the same trigger delay as HL: Alyx. I guess this is why the more expensive option from Pro Tube has settings to adjust and all that

[@256a64]

Really great content :) You are always so honest with your reviews

[@TheConstruct_VR]

Thanks for being here! I’ll keep it that way. 🤝

[@connorbanepoop]

Man this guy's good. By far one of the best reviews of peripherals by a small channel i've ever seen. You need more subs man.

[@TheConstruct_VR]

That means a lot man, thanks for watching. I’m just trying to show up strong as if the subs are already there. I appreciate yall!

[@fen4554]

Seems like they should reverse the arming direction. As soon as you click, it should slap into the base and give you the recoil, and then the motor quickly pulls it back to rearm it.

[@TheConstruct_VR]

I don’t know why I missed this comment. Yeah that would make it fire just a tad later making it feel more like the hammer pin hit

[@dumpywhite]

Some kind of quick release and holster to put the gunstock in could help. It should only let you take it off into the holster to protect it but it might help with immersion. The trigger issue could be fixed with a Glock style trigger safety that has a kinda secondary trigger lever in the middle, that would allow the stocks trigger to contact the regular one before each actually fire, and it could have a small set screw like match triggers have to dial in that contact to help with syncing them

[@TheConstruct_VR]

@@dumpywhite great points. I’m sure more sophistication in the device would help for sure. It actually feels spot on for some games. So the ability to modify when the haptic slide activates will be key in future iterations. A belt with a quick release would be 🔥🔥

[@noeluche2014]

You can stick of piece of card in between the gun stock trigger and the controller trigger to reduce the travel distance between the two.

[@TheConstruct_VR]

True it’s going to be hard to find the exact thickness that won’t mess with the rest of the trigger pull. I tried a few things and it was either too much or too little

[@yokoh691]

@@TheConstruct_VRmate. A double thick vinyl wrap cut to the trigger ?

[@TheConstruct_VR]

@@yokoh691 yeah I need to try some better materials if I want it to be a good fix, I was trying with random stuff I had in my house.

[@BossMan302]

Most underrated tech KZbinr.

[@bionicleking4380]

Keep doing reviews I was thinking about getting these but never seen a review until today

[@TheConstruct_VR]

@@bionicleking4380 🤜🏽🤛🏽

[@noahkirkpatrick8912]

The trigger activation should be from a little sticky contact. That you put on the in between the 2 triggers. So full pressing has to happen before activation.

[@TheConstruct_VR]

@@noahkirkpatrick8912 yeah they should let the trigger come all the way back to flush/full trigger pull. You may not even need to stick them together. But the gun stock’s trigger stops just shy of a full pull. So you have to squeeze extra hard for the pulls to match every time

[@clintroberts1382]

@@TheConstruct_VR Add a few layers of black electrical tape to the back of the red trigger. this should take up the gap and allow it to trigger at the same time without having them stuck together.

[@TheConstruct_VR]

@@clintroberts1382 yep. That would work for this specific delay. The only problem is the delay seems to be game specific. Because these gunstocks just trigger separate from any in game functionality… the timing varies greatly. I’m learning this after spending a bit more time with them.

[@clintroberts1382]

@@TheConstruct_VR Roger. Good to know, as I was going to purchase them based on your review. Can you do a update for your long=term review with additional games you've played. Hitting subscribe now. Thank you for the great content and reviews.

[@TheConstruct_VR]

@@clintroberts1382 absolutely. Also I’m working with the more expensive alternative soon to do do a compare and contrast. Thanks and welcome!

[@candlemann]

Try sticking one of those little round felt cabinet door dampers onto the back of each trigger. It should get the spacing right AND keep the red trigger from wearing a spot on your controller trigger.

[@TheConstruct_VR]

@@candlemann that’s EXACTLY what I tried first. It was a bit too thick. Other games don’t have as much of a delay. Follow up video to come on it! Thanks for watching

[@chrystalriver570]

honestly if you want a easy way to nulify the sound you can find min strips of foam with sticky backs put on the 2 sides of the face that gets smacked in the blowq back action and boom. its a 2 cent fix

[@1980JPA]

i would think that just a bit of felt at the contact point of that slide would at least diminish the clackyness of the sound

[@TheConstruct_VR]

@@1980JPA 100%. I have yet to try to fashion something to do so but I had the same thought

[@BoKnowsGaming]

Very interesting. I think with a couple of small adjustments they could fix the problems you talked about and really refine the experience. Great video!

[@TheConstruct_VR]

Yeah I’m looking forward to a second gen. For now these are fun though.

[@BoKnowsGaming]

@@TheConstruct_VR For sure.

[@hakjie1112]

Great review, keep them coming. I like those gadgets especially gaming ones.

[@TheConstruct_VR]

@@hakjie1112 thanks for the feedback. More gaming content to come!

[@Dougget]

Once think that I always thought was that the controllers should come with some magnetic attachment to quickly attach to a holster, once attached, that would trigger hand tracking in the system, most games do not support hand tracking but I hope in some point they do support a mixed hand tracking and controller at the same time

[@TheConstruct_VR]

I honestly think we’ll get there. Quest already has multi modal (one hand tracking, other hand controller) someone needs to just get all the functions working in game. The belt clip thing is an amazing idea. Someone else here in the comments mentioned the same thing. We’d look ridiculous to the outside world but it would be FREAKING awesome in VR.

[@Octopussy1999]

8:18 one way to fix it could be to change the trigger deadzone in the quest settings and allign it to the APEXINNO deadzone, but I'm not sure what the outcome would be.

[@TheConstruct_VR]

Worth a shot!

[@maniacmasks]

Good idea that is 👍🏻

[@richardhobson7724]

A a 2-3 mill rubber pad on the back edge of the APEXINNO trigger. it'll depress the trigger on the controller a fraction of a second faster and get them in sync. You might want to find a couple thinner pads you can cut to fit and stack on each other to get a perfect 1-1. Just a thought! Cool review BTW!

[@TheConstruct_VR]

Thanks for watching. I’ve tried adding something that but it’s just way too hard to get something at the perfect thickness. Anything of any significance and it starts to push the trigger back prematurely. There’s no gap when the trigger isn’t pulled.

[@ManuelTorres-df7gx]

@@TheConstruct_VR Seems like the only "real" fix would be cracking it open and shaving down the connection point to make it a longer trigger pull. Great honest review btw.

[@TheConstruct_VR]

@@ManuelTorres-df7gx thanks for watching, and yes… if the trigger didn’t stop it wouldn’t be a problem

[@mauriutzkaramazov3520]

To fix the trigger problem I would but some shrink tube and put it on the haptic trigger and keep adding more until there is no delay 🙂 You’re welcome

[@zhuliks]

looks like it needs a ruber buffer on the slide, soft rubber under trigger to sync with quest and maybe a bit of weight on the slide for more umph, modifications that can be easily done at home

[@TheConstruct_VR]

@@zhuliks yeah I’m tempted to try putting a spacer behind the trigger. Everything I tried hasn’t been quite right. The challenge is that that quest controller needs a full pull. Meaning from 0 to fully squeezed. Too big of a spacer puts the trigger at about 10% pulled which then messes with the hammer drop in game. So it has to be just small enough to not push the trigger back at rest The rubber bumper on the slide is a must. I wonder if they tried that and it reduced the haptics too much 🤔

[@zhuliks]

@@TheConstruct_VR alternatively you can use not just a spacer as in between triggers, but a long spacer that would work more like a lever of sorts, something that makes red trigger longer, extends under it a bit so it affects quest trigger more

[@TheConstruct_VR]

@@zhuliks ah yes increase the degree of the lever … good idea!

[@AKsmitherz]

I want to open one up and tinker with it, so many little parts that seem like a small mod would improve.

[@TheConstruct_VR]

The degree/distance of the trigger and soft padding behind the slide are my main 2 wish list modifications.

[@meursault7030]

Really great review. All the information you want

[@MILSIM530]

Keep it up man love the honest opinion

[@TheConstruct_VR]

I’ll keep it that way! Thanks for watching

[@Verociity]

Maybe they could use a slightly thinner trigger so it's closer to matching the controller's trigger.

[@TheConstruct_VR]

@@Verociity maybe, I feel like the thin stock should wait a little longer before activating AND the. Gin stock trigger should pull all the way back just as far as the quest trigger. It would be perfect then.

[@willslls8901]

Nice review! Will check these out in the future.

[@TheConstruct_VR]

@@willslls8901 glad it helped!

[@antjones2281]

Couldn't the discrepancy between the trigger be solved with a tiny piece of something between the two triggers to allow them to be more in sync?

[@TheConstruct_VR]

It does help with the need to squeeze the tigger super tight but that’s about it. 2months late video coming soon.

[@TKLMotoVlog]

Is it just me or I’m so used to it. I flinch for him each time he turned the “fake” gun muzzle towards his face. 😂😅

[@TheConstruct_VR]

lol 🙃 rest assured my trigger discipline is much better with real firearms.

[@andreimade3261]

Thank you for the review , very detailed. I will not buy at the moment but at least the feeling what would get was there. I would like firstly to know if a vest is move important then a gun stock

[@TheConstruct_VR]

@@andreimade3261 opinions on costs vary. I don’t own one but I didn’t like that they feel more like hard vibrations rather than hits.. so it didn’t really do it for me from an immersion standpoint. Honestly these peripherals aren’t required by any means… rifle stocks DO help when aiming 2 handed weapons though.

[@andreimade3261]

@@TheConstruct_VR Thank you for the information and your experience, by watching more and more you videos, I can relate what would I like or not, by comparison with trying different ideas you mention, like Fluid browser for example or other stuff.

[@TheConstruct_VR]

@@andreimade3261 more content to come! Thanks for watching

[@kiaser21]

Just put a sliver of Polyurethane high density foam and put it behind where the plastic slams back into itself. And for the trigger you just need a shim attached to the backside of the red trigger enough to partially prime the controller trigger, finding the right size shim will be the matter of the when the game is programmed to actually trigger the firing pin of whatever gun you're using in the game.

[@TheConstruct_VR]

Thanks mate, I’m still testing some ideas. Your suggestion on the sound will surely work. And yes I’m finding that the timing thing is HIGHLY dependent on how the game simulates a trigger pull. Not sure I can tweak the hardware and ever get it right permanently. Thanks for stopping by the comments

[@Eagle-ci9dr]

That thing weighs more than my FN 509 loaded.... that's insane.

[@chasedrumheller1814]

they could make the trigger bigger that would help with the delay

[@TheConstruct_VR]

@@chasedrumheller1814 yeah it seems like wrapping my finger around the entire trigger does help. Some games are a little closer to sync than HLA but that game has the best feeling pistol animations in my opinion. I was really hoping for perfection there.

[@vidal9747]

7:30 I think a calibration step would be nice. This type of stuff seems easily solvable in software. If they packed a good enough microcontroller, that is. That would be better because this is probably a problem with tolerances.

[@TheConstruct_VR]

100% I think the aim was to not do any of that to keep the cost down (just a crude guess). I would like to see some software control over timing /tolerance that isn’t related to being compatible with a game … just allow the user to adjust. That would keep it simple

[@mrboofy]

Amazing review, thank u

[@fen4554]

Honestly I wish everything would move to knuckle strap oriented. Once you get that addon, you can never go back.

[@TheConstruct_VR]

Yeah the Valve Index was on to something. It really make sense. It’s the only way to open your hand in VR

[@Chente_Bui]

Is there no way to change the quest’s full pull threshold in software? I’d have gone into steam’s controller setup first thing. But lol I’m a VR virgin so I have no idea what’s available or possible.

[@TheConstruct_VR]

@@Chente_Bui you’re on the right track! The full pull is related to the game itself , the full pull isn’t required in other games I’m finding. However I didn’t see a way to modify the triggers dead zone in Steam just yet

[@sk84fun21]

Just get a couple mm thick adhesive piece of rubber seal and stick it to the backside of the trigger. Thin enough and it won't activate the trigger before pressed and thick enough it'll delress the oculus trigger to completion

[@TheConstruct_VR]

Yeah it’s a bit too hard to find the perfect thickness. I am noticing latency depends greatly on the game. And PcVR vs headset. I’ll do a follow up video based on some things I’m seeing

[@Subfightr]

I dug the gear review. I especially like your side by side visual. I'd absolutely like to see more. I have these and my concern with them is they absolutely feel like they would snap right in the middle of I were to like... Swing a virtual ax for example, and make an abrupt stop in the middle of the swing, or swing it back up, the weight in the front combined with the momentum = busted. You can see the slight flex just wiggling it up and down with slight effort (I'm talking about the gun still), I suspect this plastic does not flex, it snaps.

[@TheConstruct_VR]

Noted I’ll keep them in rotation on the channel. Thanks. And Yeah I noticed the flex a little… I feel like the clamp that holds it in isn’t always clicked. And when it’s not it REALLY wobbles. They probably were meant to hold up for anything more than standard shoot and aim… this makes pistol whip seem a bit scary. 😄

[@TheMrWARLORD]

Best part of it is that they work for all the games

[@TheConstruct_VR]

@@TheMrWARLORD true!!!

[@pandorin2348]

Nice review OG

[@TheConstruct_VR]

💪🏽 thx for watching!

[@Sharkfurter]

Sure, $120 isn't much for two devices, but at the same time. If they're noisy, they have trigger delay issues due to design which interferes with the haptic feedback sometimes, they don't work with the wrist strap, and the haptic feedback isn't great looking to begin with.. I can't say I'd be rushing to get em.

[@jpawhees]

That is way to expensive for what it is $40 to 50 for the pair at most. Then I'll consider buying it. It's not even programmed to anything, just press the trigger and it goes off. They adjust the price and these will sell well. Maybe make versions that can run on AA or AAA batteries and a circuit that ups the volts for the motor. They could make single shot non powered versions for cheap. Though the trigger squeeze would be stronger.

[@TheConstruct_VR]

Yeah there's definitely a sweeter middle spot, this was a good first run. We need a lower tier like you mentioned. I hope to get to try Pro Tube's just to compare and contrast what you pay for there. ( i know there's a lot more to those )

[@capolean2902]

honestly im waiting for vr gloves, also gonna save up for something like a mocap suit. but has anyone told u u look like ja rule before?

[@TheConstruct_VR]

@@capolean2902 I hear you. I feel like the tech (like gloves) has to work Soooo well for it to be useful, otherwise it’s just going to be frustrating. But I can’t wait for better tech, I’m with you. Ja Rule? Only every time I go outside 😅 Thanks for watching 👊🏽

[@RoboCop-zn8bt]

This is sick. I Wana try VR soon

[@TheConstruct_VR]

@@RoboCop-zn8bt it’s a lot of fun seriously. I almost can’t play flat games (tv/monitor/handheld) because I like the immersion so much more.

[@JAYCEREALM]

Cool review there IS not a model that allow to connect 2 gun for 2 hand guns?

[@TheConstruct_VR]

@@JAYCEREALM like connect them to make a full rifle gun stock? No

[@JAYCEREALM]

@TheConstruct_VR too Bad i will buy the enforcer i think

[@TheConstruct_VR]

@ yeah a little more pricey but worth the extra stuff. I’m cooking a video on the proVolver from proTube. As well. Let me know any questions you may have on that one. If I can cover the enforcer I will. But don’t wait on a video 😁

[@dman3526]

Whats its cycle rate? I can get splits as low as .11 spilts on Ace

[@TheConstruct_VR]

I didn’t measure that. But honestly it’s not very fast. Like I feel like if you had a high rate of fire SMG or something it may feel a bit slow.

[@brolaire8851]

It looks pretty light hitting compared to what an actual slide is like

[@TheConstruct_VR]

@@brolaire8851 yeah it’s feels like 10% of what a real slide would feel like. But it’s better than 0% without it, shooting just feels like a weightless water gun

[@eliapavoni2275]

Nice! Since i’m never going to use them combo and i would only use the right one i’ll wait for them to realize that selling them both combo and single it’s smarter and then i’ll pick one up 💪🏻

[@TheConstruct_VR]

@@eliapavoni2275 yeah selling one for just 69.99 or something would be perfect!

[@eliapavoni2275]

@@TheConstruct_VRfinger crossed 🤞🏻

[@shawnwilliams6045]

Can I use this gun stock with my meta quest pro controller

[@TheConstruct_VR]

I think it would fit! Although ApexInno doesn’t say this officially anywhere on the packaging. As long as the cameras aren’t blocked 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@EthanRoselli-ij3xr]

How do you play gunman contracts standalone

[@TheConstruct_VR]

@@EthanRoselli-ij3xr its not out yet. I’m playing Gunman Contracts Chapter 1 in the video Wish list Stand Alone here: store.steampowered.com/app/2421750/Gunman_Contracts__Stand_Alone/

[@EthanRoselli-ij3xr]

@@TheConstruct_VR okay thanks

[@cyphre]

Feels like it's about halfway there. Really just comes down to a basic solenoid, battery, and trigger, but the motion doesn't seem like it's all there with this design. Certainly a convenient, mechanical solution, but not for that price for how cheap it looks and sounds.

[@TheConstruct_VR]

@@cyphre I think selling 1 at a time would make it more digestible. I am finding the timing issue varies GREATLY from game to game.

[@IkumaXR]

I liked your splitscreen comparison. How did you record them? Did you put a camera in from of your HMD? :D

[@TheConstruct_VR]

Yep! 😁 pretty much! Thanks for watching!

[@malo2214]

Honestly i could see something like this being perfect for something like Pistol Whip. But i do think that itd be better to use without them turned on since, you know, Rhythm game, Loud external sounds, would probably mess up a few people

[@TheConstruct_VR]

There are other ones that only add weight for a lot less $$. I’m finding that it’s hard to give off a lot of haptic feedback and be dead silent. Thx for watching!

[@0uttaS1TE]

Ja Rule jokes aside, this is a good review. I don't have a VR headset but as soon as I do, I'll try and pick this up too

[@TheConstruct_VR]

@@0uttaS1TE right on! 👊🏽These are a lot of fun. I have a few more videos planned to talk about things I’ve noticed . Stay tuned thanks for watching

[@eggymens]

is quest 3 worth upgrading from quest 2, it looks really high fidelity

[@TheConstruct_VR]

@@eggymens yes it’s night and day as far as clarity and processing power. 100% worth it. The two games I played here were on PC VR . Not native quest games.

[@eggymens]

@@TheConstruct_VR thank you! i figured it must also be using pcvr, which isn't a problem for me i'd be connecting it to my pc also, but it still looked night and day like you said. fantastic thank you for taking time to reply. your content is very high quality btw you have a new subscriber

[@mr.funkyright]

Ja Rule not done with Hollywood out here doing VR.

[@TheConstruct_VR]

@@mr.funkyright that Fast and Furious thing didn’t work out. I had to find a new angle 🤣

[@parched7438]

Pistol whip ?

[@TheConstruct_VR]

@@parched7438 yeah works good there. You can still hear the click. The trigger response is a bit better there as well

[@denisvarga2794]

i dont know why, but first thing that came into my mind is the fact that you need to charge ANOTHER thing... Phone, Headphones, Earbuds, Controller (multiple of them), keyboard, mouse, vr headset, each vr controller, smart watch, maybe portable console, and now those 2 things... We are in the world of wireless technology, but in the same time we are more wired than ever...

[@TheConstruct_VR]

Yeah we need Tony Stark to get the arc reactor going asap. We have all this tech but haven’t figured out renewable energy for it.

[@LazyEyePolitics]

3m padded tape. Boom

[@GettingThingsDun]

Do I see gaming content on the channel 😱!!! Just playing fam lol ! These seem fun. I also have a review of these coming pretty soon. Your thoughts was spot on for sure! Great addition and at a good price.

[@TheConstruct_VR]

Hahaha right just broke the seal on gaming! I gotta respect the audience … baby steps. More to come. Thanks for watching JDun. 🤜🏽🤛🏽

[@henrymonroy9533]

Good haptics are great for immersion

[@TheConstruct_VR]

Yes! I know people look at these and think they’re weird or whatever but after taking them off I actually MISSED the immersion, the gun felt too light without it. It certainly adds to the experience

[@henryonyemaobi7781]

Hello, Ja rule, haha. Thanks. You didn't cover one thing: Does it still fire the haptic when the clip is empty? I see that might be another issue.

[@TheConstruct_VR]

@@henryonyemaobi7781 no you just keep some of the weight. And save yourself the trouble of removing the controllers

[@sociallyresponsiblexenomor7608]

The sound it makes kinda kills it for me. I would still hear that over the game, and it would pull me from the immersion more than it would give me. So I don't feel it would be worth it for me.

[@benjib20]

how did you play the game without it being out?

[@TheConstruct_VR]

@@benjib20 this is chapter 1 contracts not stand alone

[@benjib20]

@@TheConstruct_VR oh i see

[@Mr.Tereso]

this is how a child see the world after pickup a stick shaped gun lol

[@TheConstruct_VR]

😂

[@Wolfimatics]

Did you try it with Bonelab?

[@TheConstruct_VR]

@@Wolfimatics yep works pretty solid. Not Perfect timing on the firing but close.

[@Wolfimatics]

@TheConstruct_VR ah okay thanks

[@kevinkev1530]

That's really cool

[@calvinbrown3034]

Do these work with quest 2

[@TheConstruct_VR]

@@calvinbrown3034 no these are designed for the quest 3 controllers.

[@AzTecHell]

Got mixed feelings about that thing. And what's up with rifles in games? How does it feel to hold weapon with hands with those things?

[@TheConstruct_VR]

Yeah this is why I pointed out HLA and Robo Recall. I saw someone use just one on the right hand and then rest that controller on the other hand … kind of like a fake rifle stock. I feel like in Pavlov or zero caliber or something it would be almost too much shaking and noise. The feedback does ever so slightly impact your ability to keep steady aim . So I wouldn’t recommend for competitive play

[@businesscompanyvr4788]

Nice video! How are you getting the first person camera shots tho?

[@TheConstruct_VR]

@@businesscompanyvr4788 🏆 you win! You were the first to ask. I wondered if anyone would notice hahah. I guess anyone could just attach a GoPro to the front of their quest. I did’t do that though… my method was much more spur of the moment and a lot less elegant than that. I’ll share it one day. Hahah thanks for the kind words! 🤜🤛

[@businesscompanyvr4788]

@@TheConstruct_VR I'm interested in doing these type of first person side by side shots also, did you just tape your phone to the headset?

[@TheConstruct_VR]

@@businesscompanyvr4788 my set up was even more janky.. I used my Ray Ban Meta glasses 😎 it worked out nice. I’m thinking an insta 360 or something would be better. Give it a go! I think this worked for this review because the accessory was the focus. Not sure how this will feel to the viewer if they’re just looking at your room

[@businesscompanyvr4788]

@@TheConstruct_VR oh interesting idea, how did you wear the Ray Bans at the same time as the Quest? I want to try filming gameplay like this with my VR gunstock.

[@Ramonatho]

Sounds like theyre using cheap gen 2 airsoft gun motors in these. I would recognize that crappy motor noise anywhere.

[@DigThat32]

Afew days ago I clicked on a Ja Rule short thinking it was you 😅. Good vid mayne. Are you on Discord?

[@TheConstruct_VR]

@@DigThat32 hahahahaha. Yeah I actually have a discord server I’m not taking good care of currently. I’m on there as @TheConstructVR

[@kassar___4948]

I am surprised by the creation of a new circle in game pads, it was solved a long time ago and people creating a game gun should have already taken this into account, i.e. a shortened shot like in a pad, for example, an edge or scaf pad

[@TheConstruct_VR]

Yeah it was a bit surprising for me too. What I’m finding is that it’s varies from game to game HL:Alyx needs a fulll trigger pull, but Zombie Land : Headshot fever does not. So it feels perfect in some games. There’s no adjustment or software for these so I feel like they had to go for the most reasonable timing.

[@Blujustice]

That's actually not true, the pressure on the trigger for quest 3 is a secondary option for games that don't even utilize it yet. in all games I play you DO NOT need to squeeze the quest 3 triggers all the way for any weapon to fire, that was actually stated in a quest 3 tech interview.

[@TheConstruct_VR]

@@Blujustice this just from what I observed while playing HL Alyx. I did notice that it varied from game to game. It may not need a full squeeze for all games But you can clearly see this happening in the test. But this could be specific to HL Alyx and its mapping to the quest controller. Not a limitation of the controller itself

[@Blujustice]

@TheConstruct_VR oh no you're absolutely right on your assessment of the hapic triggers for sure. I clearly see the gap and was thinking the same idea would work for the triggers as you suggested would work for the slide slamming into the plasitc of every shot, and half life Alex is literally the only VR game that uses that full trigger feature like squeezing the cans in game when picking them up. Other games it's usually just half of a trigger squeeze to fire off anything. Awesome video though my friend keep it up!

[@TheConstruct_VR]

@@Blujustice I appreciate you taking the time to comment! I may do a 1 week later. I am noticing a few things I didn’t cover. 🤜🤛

[@davidgiudice7688]

Nice job

[@jvoidhuey3088]

Just put a little spacer in between.

[@TheConstruct_VR]

@@jvoidhuey3088 it’s complicated. But that was my first thought too…

[@scottytherambler6919]

Honestly I'd prefer if they were even heavier, and someone made a glove to use as a controller.

[@TheConstruct_VR]

I got something to show you in this weekend’s video. But yeah I’m torn. Heavy does feel more realistic but then it’s a bit exhausting after a while. But it does prove that you’re no super soldier 😄 thanks for watching

[@UPNORTHREVIEWS905]

I Clicked Because I Thought You Were Ja Rule For A Second 😂 Good Video Though! Its MURDAA

[@TheConstruct_VR]

@@UPNORTHREVIEWS905 hahaha. That’s going to start to rank as a primary traffic source. Recommendations, and “You Look like Ja Rule”. 🤣Thanks for watching 👊🏽

[@UPNORTHREVIEWS905]

@@TheConstruct_VR 🤣

[@thecoolestdaniel4554]

Bro has a dream

[@oRealAlieNo]

Damn 50 cent messed jarule up so bad he doing vr reviews

[@unexpectedmemes372]

i mean 114 for one is not okay but for two i think its okay

[@TheConstruct_VR]

@@unexpectedmemes372 I’ve heard a lot of feedback that selling just 1 for 60 bucks would be preferred. In contrast the more premium option only gives you one …and makes games like Robo Recall or Pistol Whip or anything that has dual wield obsolete for a single haptic attachment. Thanks for watching!

[@gazorbpazorbian]

it's a shame they are not for the quest 2 :(

[@TheConstruct_VR]

Yeah. You could get the Quest Pro controllers and pair them with your quest 2 and it will work. But that’s getting pricey

[@cognitonito2695]

Jah Rue is that you?

[@TheConstruct_VR]

😂😂😂 No. 🙃

[@Cheezus]

it's crazy that they are charging over 100 dollars for literally a dollar store laser gun toy that straps to your controller. It doesn't even correspond to the guns just single fire and a fixed automatic fire.

[@drewpatterson8009]

That doesn't seem like a lot of "recoil" I could see the appeal if it actually had a good hard kick.

[@TheConstruct_VR]

Yeah I’m currently testing the more expensive alternative and the extra kick is nice but too much makes it hard to aim. I guess that is more realistic though 😄

[@Banksyy1]

50 got Ja doing reviews now 😂😂😂

[@TheConstruct_VR]

😆

[@liloni444]

we got ja rule on the phone let's hear his thoughts on the apexinno

[@TheConstruct_VR]

@@liloni444 😄😁

[@BLACKWOLF-m4s]

this is perfeckt vor pistohl whip

[@DHell-n8i]

Affordable as in 400$

[@TheConstruct_VR]

@@DHell-n8i $114

[@FPChris]

Pistol whip