The Art of DENY, DEFEND, DEPOSE

[@Shawn.Grenier]

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[@damienadama]

Really, given the content, I thought it would have passed those barriers easily.

[@pigeon_the_brit565]

Its a great video, and as an aside i think being shawn grenier: the canvas is a great way to have your cake and eat it, it is your project and you aren't it and that's a good way of showing that.

[@2IDSGT]

😆 2009 was 15 years ago… get a chair yo.

[@NeilKelly_is_angryexpat]

Got the saintly backlight vibe nailed

[@eldermillennial8330]

And my spicier comments are being “disappeared”.

[@vraisairs9201]

Big fan of the “Luigi and I were hanging out that morning” meme

[@sablesalt]

It's not a meme, he was very social and simply just hung out with a lot of people

[@Greybell]

Well he did. He played Fortnite with his friends.

[@FrankBurnham]

The left is obviously a death cult.

[@aigle_grincheux]

honestky do we even know what he was doing then? bc we all know he’s not the actual guy who did it based on all the footage vs what the man actually looks like but what was he doing and when will they finally admit that they framed him?? there’s literally no way he chose to wear the same clothes he had on during his “committing” the crime and kept all the solid undeniable evidence on his person AND A MANIFESTO THAT OPENS WITH BOOTLICKING THE FEDS it’s too stupid

[@railfandepotproductions]

​@@aigle_grincheuxMaybe they got an imposter

[@mastercharlesdiltardino8058]

Hitler had a wife. Stalin had kids. These things arent hard to get and dont reflect your value as a person.

[@TKHaines]

But our reactions to such things do reflect our values.

[@c3ramics]

@@TKHainesjustice is one of our values. Have you not seen how much people praise justice? We all reap what we sow. God will remind us of that when we pass.

[@josephgeorge5741]

If you hate Stalin, you still have some Capitalist brainwash to undo.

[@JinKee]

Luigi Mangione had serious spinal injuries that made having a wife and kids very hard to get

[@_KRYMZN_]

@@TKHaines Americans have always been very accepting of violence committed against those they believe “deserve it”. Only difference is, this is a CEO, not people in the Middle East, or criminals. Values haven’t changed one bit.

[@hrnekbezucha]

"When one individual inflicts bodily injury upon another such that death results, we call the deed manslaughter; when the assailant knew in advance that the injury would be fatal, we call his deed murder. But when society places hundreds of proletarians in such a position that they inevitably meet a too early and an unnatural death, one which is quite as much a death by violence as that by the sword or bullet; when it deprives thousands of the necessaries of life, places them under conditions in which they cannot live - forces them, through the strong arm of the law, to remain in such conditions until that death ensues which is the inevitable consequence - knows that these thousands of victims must perish, and yet permits these conditions to remain, its deed is murder just as surely as the deed of the single individual; disguised, malicious murder, murder against which none can defend himself, which does not seem what it is, because no man sees the murderer, because the death of the victim seems a natural one, since the offence is more one of omission than of commission. But murder it remains." - Friedrich Engels, 1845

[@codeintherough]

Is this from a book?

[@hrnekbezucha]

@@codeintherough from The Condition of the Working Class in England

[@johnnypanrike8505]

Yeah ... Engels and Marx created the philosophy that led to communism ... ironic how their efforts, presumably in good will, led to one of the most terrifying forms of brutal and oppressive dictatorship. Human beings are a strange species.

[@gking407]

The only way one doesn’t understand this is through willful ignorance. Class distinctions are becoming as pronounced as the turn of the last century. It’s like we’re traveling backwards as a society

[@Echo81Rumple83]

This inconvenient truth still holds up 180+ years since.

[@ricardoediza2690]

Some people are crying out “He had a wife and kids“, but the moment a whistleblower on a company mysteriously dies, they be like, “Well, what a shame these things happen“

[@jooca]

fighting ghosts

[@BoarhideGaming]

I’m pretty sure the millions and millions of lower and middle class people who die every year due to the abuse of the ruling class had families too. Having a family does not absolve a CEO, especially one as him, from facing the consequences of their crimes, especially such as his. In an ideal world, a court would have sentenced him, but the justice system doesn’t mind rich criminals one bit.

[@Insanabiliter_In_Linea]

What I usually say to stuff like that is, "So did the thousands of people who died due to his actions."

[@edwardgonzalez3671]

Oh wow I’d like to see that. Where can I find a person say oh well these things happen when a whistleblower dies. Please tell me who said that. There’s Git to be a KZbin clip. Thank you . We will wait

[@MeChoonChannel]

"They be like".

[@macareuxmoine]

That’s a chilling piece of art. The noose emanating from the CEO back to the shooter really scares me. As if it’s a situation from which there’s no escape. May our hope not be in vain…

[@Steph-lo9sj]

Is that what it is? I thought it was a screw driver

[@macareuxmoine]

@ that was mentioned during the video. And then I saw it too. Interestingly it really is the shadow of his arms… just enlarged.

[@korkee1111]

It's in vain, the US essentially chose enslavement to corporations over freedom for temporary security and tummy rubs after 9/11.

[@marcod5027]

we're a couple ceo's away from universal health care

[@FERALANIMAL]

who's next on the menu?

[@phillipanselmo8540]

​@FERALANIMALNestlé's

[@benevolentbaphomet]

You're not on sh*t goofy 😂 😂😂 you putting not work. That's your list, so you do it yourself you tape worm.😂😂😂

[@Mavrik9000]

@FERALANIMAL Maybe someone will go with the one with the second-highest denial rate?

[@WhizPill]

Inshallah

[@eliasn0671]

Leaving a comment to help boost this, I think looking at art right after such a historical event is so important because, should it be retained culturally, people a hundred years from now could be looking at it to understand our own feelings on it.

[@gregvs.theworld451]

That said, it is on us to make sure our feelings are recording and reported accurately. Right now the media is still trying to spin the adjuster as a scary maniac who could come for us next, which I'm sure I don't have to say not many of us are buying.

[@ti2218]

Just like the political art of the 1800s and 1900s

[@Echo81Rumple83]

As a political cartoon fanatic, this is why this form of media is so damn important.

[@OpeningsOpenings]

Artists need to rise up en masse and ensure this moment in history becomes a part of the longer historical archive in a way that represents the core issue

[@nataliewalton8590]

Looking at how millions of ppl are supporting a nut

[@serpenticide_555]

Just putting it out there, maybe you've heard Bill Burr mention nestle's ceo saying drinking water isn't a right.

[@kalayne6713]

It's like calling the homeless criminals. Housing is a foundational need. Making us homeless criminals, is criminal.

[@Cristian0Cae]

A list must be made

[@Slamboni4k]

Brian was unhappily married. His family likely knew he was a self-interested crook. He was going through a divorce, so the fact that the media keeps saying he had a wife and kids - yeah, but one way or another it was changing.

[@nbeutler1134]

The media will say anything to protect capital

[@SorieI]

Lol and now, instead of a divorce settlement, she's walking away with a fat inheritance. She is going to be perfectly comfy cozy.

[@projectarduino2295]

I think half of what made it so popular was the coincidence of a perfect framing that the security camera had. It was from over the shoulder of the killer. The scene dead center, like a planed shot in a movie. That made it personal. Like the viewer was the killer. Like how in video games the over the shoulder camera is a kind of intimacy with the player making character and player one. That made it cinematic. Easy to watch over and over again. Also: if it bleeds, it leads. Similarly, we don’t see any faces. This makes the death more distant and thus acceptable to see. The blur of the camera being grainy makes it also easier to distance from. And distance makes it easier to condone death. It was quick. Almost professional. And any kind of skill is praised now a-days. Pretty much always has been. And the cause is something most people understand, so even if you can’t condone the killing, you can understand the frustration behind it making Luigi a kind of anti hero; anti heroism had a popularity resurgence recently in movies, also meaning the pallet was wet before making it easier to accept. It really was a perfect storm to create such an event as this.

[@nillyk5671]

You make a very interesting point about the camera angle.

[@valeriemacphail9180]

All hail to Saint and Martyr Luigi : PROTECTOR OF THE WEAK!!

[@00PlPu00]

A literal anarchist symbol walking around is a great touch. I find it amazing that people on the right seem to be "moved" when it comes precisely to very basic traits of leftism: class struggle, exploitation, extinguishing classes... What do they think leftism is about? P.S.: I really liked the Brain Stew intro

[@Shawn.Grenier]

You really noticed the details!! The black cat walking was not planned, but very appreciated haha

[@llynnmarks3382]

They think leftists want to take their guns and rights away because they've been lied to by the elites their whole life.

[@staceysaurusrex2630]

An amalgamation of woke-scolding their favourite trashy comedy from the 2000s and communism is when no food?

[@mariusskrupskis2042]

PLZ for the sake od.. forget this dumb concept of LEFT and RIGHT. This is the most successful illusion in action it successfully divides and rules over mases of dumb enough.

[@TheSteveBoyd]

They think leftism is about neosocial dogma. About scolding people, about cancelling people, about the insistence of mainstreaming progressive ideas and opinions about gender identity, social justice, et. al., that they haven't caught up with yet. The right have no clue what "left" or "right" even mean, except as a descriptor for their political fantasy football team. Most of everyday maga would normally lean left and don't even know it, because they've drunk the con man's kool-aid.

[@botanberry3132]

they have one defense of "he has a wife and kids" maybe bc there's nothing else likable about him

[@Echo81Rumple83]

It reminds me of the "Edward is a Beanscout" argument from Camp Lazlo. They, Lazlo and his friends, were debating on whether to save a fellow scout who's really a d00sh-bagge from time to time (and a bad drawer) before he gets mauled by a female equivalent of Ganon.

[@j4irooo]

that and also “he was in charge of a profitable business, is he supposed to not make it money”

[@roboticpunk]

It’s irrelevant what he had or didn’t have (the CEO). He was an innocent U.S. citizen (he had not been charged for any crime) and no matter how moral Saint Luigi thinks he is - he has zero right to take man’s life in cold blood.

[@alexeyf1795]

@@roboticpunk Nah mate. Law is only good when it applies to everyone and it is just. If law can't deal with mass injustice - people will.

[@roboticpunk]

@@alexeyf1795 but this is vigilantism at best and terrorism at worst. I “understand” the points being made - but they are so dangerous for the U.S. Should we cut off the hand of someone who continues to steal/shoplift? I would say 100% no.

[@cgautz]

Love the cat, the ultimate Anarchist.

[@chompythebeast]

Sabo Tabby!

[@CaliforniaReefRat]

@@chompythebeast There's a sabo-tabby kitten, sitting, purring by the door, And lying in the bed there is a smiling saboteur; But a cat's no good at bombing, and none of us is sure That that smiling, sleeping freak is not a pig provocateur!

[@MomirsLabTech]

My first comment got deleted (presumably because I included a link to the 404 Media article) but UHC is issuing DMCA takedowns to various online retailers for basically any product that contains art related to these events, even if its just Luigis face and the art does not contain UHC IP.

[@botobeni]

Ytube doesn't like any link in general. My comments never stay with links in them.

[@gregvs.theworld451]

How the f*ck are they allowed to do that? They don't have a copyright on my friend L u i g i M a n g ! o n e, the man who was with me on Dec. 4 playing Smash bros., face do they?

[@piccalillipit9211]

they will fight in every way possible to STOP this. We will see what Am3ric4 is made of, what I think Am3ric4 is made of is a class of people who still worship the rich - but we will see

[@eldermillennial8330]

@@botobeni If you link to other YT videos it’s fine.

[@eldermillennial8330]

Same problem.

[@YOSSARIAN313]

The movement is helped by luigi being a photogenic white man so even the racists are on board witb it

[@eldermillennial8330]

Conservatives want very different solutions. Or, rather, tradeoffs.

[@weatheranddarkness]

Unfortunately you're almost entirely correct.

[@FerousFolly]

this is a good thing

[@EMlNENCJA]

Imagine raising a person like that to power in order to go around obstacles & change the corrupt system. Insane right? But we know it could be done & we know it would work - historically speaking. Way to introduce healthcare 🤭

[@chazlabreck]

Your not wrong..if it was a black man the feel would be different and we all know that's true..sadly so still true, although I don't like the idea of making this about race as it dilutes the other message.

[@been_a_bean]

I'm seriously impressed with the comments section under this video, it looks like people really took the time to think through their ideas and about how to express themselves... I've been out of the art world for a while and this thoughtfulness makes me remember the depth of feeling art brings. Thank you all

[@MistyDusker]

I haven't checked the comments in a bit but a while back I saw a lot of comments from right wing weirdos who had some kind of grudge. Surprised as you the comments are level headed and focused here.

[@TheLouWho2]

Fascinating how history repeats itself. Over and over. Great video, thank you!

[@VoltasP]

It's because we don't teach History in our schools. We teach classes that ought to be called "Patriot brainwashing". Common lies include: "Pilgrims invited Indians to the first Thanksgiving forging lasting friendships!" "Washington was one of the good slave owners because at death he freed his slaves even though they loved working him for him, so they were really sad when he died" "We beat the English fair and square, and just one Frenchman named Lafayette helped us, we didn't need French help and France's hate-boner to hurt England certainly didn't contribute to the economic hardships that led to the French people starving!" "Slaves were happy because they were housed and fed and their souls were saved because we have the Christianity and cake walks!" "The Civil War was was about states rights!" "Indians attacked homesteaders for no reason and scalped them, even when we offered them lands and food and medicine and Christian churches so they'd never have any of their basic needs unmet, they were just being violent because violence was central to their primitive way of life!" "We got civil rights because a plucky young girl named Rosa Parks decided to sit that the front of the bus and MLK made some nice speeches and there was a march and racism was cured!" "The KKK happened a long time ago, don't worry about it." "Women got the vote because the menfolk benevolently gave them the right when they saw that women were serious about wanting a say in government." "Women got equal pay because they made speeches and burned bras, and now a woman can do anything-- Just ignore the fact that the vast majority of women are service workers, cleaners, teaching, childcare, and low paying retail jobs because those are the jobs that are the most like women's natural strengths: Caring for children and running a family! But if you're not a normal woman you can be one of those outliers who take a job that doesn't suit your natural strengths!" "Reagan was the Great Communicator and America prospered under his expert leadership." If history makes you feel pride and reassurance that everything will eventually turn out all right because the people in charge know what they're doing and act benevolently if you're clever and polite when making requests? You're not studying history, you're being fed propaganda.

[@RuanFourieStix]

Yup. And crazy that we do not learn from our mistakes. Fighting cruelty with cruelty has never worked, not even once, in recorded history.

[@mishrooma]

⁠@@RuanFourieStix Reactionary. All anarchist or anarchist-adjacent societies from Revolutionary Catalonia to the Zapatistas and Rojava were not achieved by reformism. They liberated themselves through violent and nonviolent means, through blood and direct action. Read a history book.

[@claytonglasgow1317]

@@RuanFourieStix that’s absolutely untrue. There has only been a handful of times in human history that the powerful relinquished power or improved the working classes conditions without force or the threat of force. MLK never achieved civil rights within his lifetime when he was assassinated major cities rioted and there was the threat of major insurrection and that’s what got civil rights to pass. The square deal that got us the 8 hour work day, safety regulations, and union protections only got pushed through after weeks and weeks of protests that devolved into running gun battles with police when they were sent to break the strikes. Power never gives up power because of kind words. It’s time they remember that dogs do more than bark and we’re tired of being kicked.

[@trinhhuyvinhbao670]

​@@RuanFourieStixyea sure you be like we hugged Naz1 and ww2 ended

[@Megaghost_]

The noose is an interesting addition. Was Luigi's fate determined from the moment he pulled the trigger or did he already had it on his neck before committing the act (because of the insurance's decisions), so that is what led him to act in the first place? I could see him as a man with a narrow margin of decision and not much else to lose. Putting himself in the position of the CEO as one of those people in charge of deciding who lives and who doesn't with impunity is a material impossibility for him, he can never do what Thompson did using a simple tool without paying the price, Thompson was a replaceable cog for the institutions he took part of, like any other person who takes part of them. One of these persons had a license to kill, the other not. There is nothing backing up Luigi, materially speaking. Only collective action could elicit real change. I'm not trying to deny the potential of individuals to act as triggers, but without a collective project behind them their acts only go so far.

[@eldermillennial8330]

Thomson was about to testify against Nancy Pelosi, and Luigi’s Grandfather was old pals with Nancy’s dad, who provided him a campaign broadcast platform using his radio station. Don’t be so sure that you know what is going on.

[@Echo81Rumple83]

My god, you're right... you pointed out something that we all have in common with a parasitic CEO: he's a replaceable cog in the machine O_O IDK what to make of this revelation >_

[@Echo81Rumple83]

My god, you just made a point in what we have in common with a parasitic CEO: we're all replaceable cogs in the machine O_O ...IDK what to make of this revelation >_

[@1summerflower]

Pharmaceuticals cause chemical castration and neurological damage , most people don’t know this although they should! Many lives are lost this way it’s very rarely acknowledged or talked about.

[@Electric0eye]

Generally speaking, you're right. But there is one benefit to this method. Every CEO in the world now is looking, and they are being reminded of their own mortality and the consequences of their actions. If enough perish, that might start to inform their decisions in the future. It won't make them better people, but it would lead to better outcomes. The biggest problem the US is facing today is the 1% believing themselves to be invincible, when in reality they are as replacable to us as we are to them. And that's a valuable reminder.

[@JosephAnnino76]

My parents. who were born under fascism in Italy, were initially really spooked by the arrival of message boards and comments on the internet. They said to be careful of what someone might think of what you say in 30 years. Thinking of the direction the world is going now, I see what they mean. This whole episode reminds me another set of anarchists, Sacco and Vanzetti.

[@Echo81Rumple83]

I have parents of the Silent and Boomer Generations, one gone, the other I still live with. I still remember the horror stories they told me pertaining to the zeitgeist they grew up in based on the decade they were born in, from post-WWII recovery/boom to atomic holocaust drills at public schools (which I feel is no different from active pew-pew drills, thank goodness I didn't hafta go thru that after highschool graduation in 2002).

[@Electric0eye]

That's why I say what I believe to be right, no matter how inconvenient people find it to be. No matter who sees it in the future. If I can't do that, what can I do?

[@FrostyTheDankman]

Anything to draw fascists into range of our teeth and nails.

[@imperialmotoring3789]

Luigi is gay.

[@13mungoman13]

0:16 "I think the art, and especially the memes made about the assassination of the CEO are as important, if not more important, than the act itself." God, imagine living such a life that someone declares the jokes people made as a result of your death as more important than the fact you died. Legitimately nightmarish thing to think about.

[@weatheranddarkness]

Welp, there we are, that's where we live. Of course it's always been that way. A death is a moment, it's always been about what means carry the meaning through time. Is the fact of JFK's death the most important part of that story? Not really in the scope of time it's not.

[@George_M_]

One could call the event itself a collaborative performance piece - the police chose to release the title of this video, after all. They knew it was going to be instantly iconic.

[@GeahkBurchill]

I’ll admit, as an artist I was afraid to post a piece I did regarding Mangione anywhere publicly. The state will indeed be retributive.

[@Eighthplanetglass]

Same here.

[@Echo81Rumple83]

I have a digital rough just sitting in my hard drive, for nearly a decade, with a literal number 1 talking about who it is as the First Amendment followed by the number 2 talking what it does as the Second Amendment. It doesn't end well...

[@imperialmotoring3789]

I am also an artist! That's so cool! Luigi is gay.

[@phat-kid]

this is manufactured consent. do not consent.

[@BabaJeez]

Practically no one is actually celebrating the death itself. They are celebrating the truth. They are celebrating the breaking of the mind-control spell of red-team/blue-team. They are celebrating the change we all smell in the air… the change we are awakening and birthing together. There is no creation without destruction.

[@ilo3456]

Me and Luigi were playing a game when it happened so it couldn't have been him.

[@CommandGnome]

Fr I was there too

[@nothanks39]

i was the game and i can confirm this is true

[@imperialmotoring3789]

Luigi is gay. I believe you.

[@MasonAlex-f9p]

my 2 interpretations: dеny the propaganda dеfend the people dеpose the powerful dеny the propaganda dеfend our clause dеpose their argument

[@eldermillennial8330]

Don’t get bamboozled by a red herring. Thomson was about to testify against Nancy Pelosi. Luigi’s grandfather was a close business partner with Nancy’s father. Things aren’t what they seem.

[@Totally.not.Tarkus]

1st one

[@blew1t]

Deny them of our compliance? Deny and defend both work as-is as just catch-all invigorating words of “Don’t do what they say, defend your right to do so”, and depose switches out “delay”. I think the fact its a reversal of a description of their policies is a message of reciprocal retribution, that their endless violence has left us no option but to do the same

[@chokatlate]

I think it's a reference to Jay m. Fienmans Delay Deny Defend a book about insurance companies refusal to pay claims. In this case the message on the bullet i interpret as if you want to deny and defend, then you shall be deposed.

[@deepsea5348]

Once again, people are mad as hell and they can’t take it anymore, and I for one am delighted about that.

[@enolaravynmare1870]

Just found you via the algorithm. As an artist I am so happy to see the power of multiple mediums being wielded so effectively by the people in the struggle against capitalism. Each spark is vital. Thank you ❤

[@gobot90]

LMFAO

[@Echo81Rumple83]

I've even given a pass to a music video where the music is, in fact, human made, but the video footages were, in fact, AI-generated. It gets the point across. I hope to get those Guy Fox/Jason fusion masks when we rebell against the corporate class.

[@briannacooper2628]

The Luigi Patreon Saint image is rather breathtaking in its impact. Understanding the deep visceral rage this killing has touched on speaks to the world we have created and how it must change.

[@weatheranddarkness]

nb: Patreon is the brand name, 'patron' is the normal english word. just FYI. That is one of the more strikingly meaningful images I agree. Many have taken on the Nintendo character as shorthand. Which doesn't have quite the same inherent connotations.

[@benevolentbaphomet]

"Breathtaking" 😂😂😂 you're a joke

[@imperialmotoring3789]

Yes. Luigi is the Patron Saint of the Homosexual Man.

[@mustbeaweful2504]

Maybe you feel the same way, but as a Canadian, I'm in a weird place where I'm so hopeful that our neighbors get something good out of this turmoil, and at the same time feel exhausted by such turmoil spectacle.

[@weatheranddarkness]

Same, I'm not sure if it'll put the fear of god into the pro-privatization people though.

[@LokiKhane]

We're exhausted too. We're so tired. But we can't afford to sleep, because the truly-wealthy [not just the slightly rich] own all the houses & as landlords they are actively colluding to raise our rent (proven). There are more empty houses than individuals who are unhoused (not just 1 per unhoused family; 1 per person. As in, for an unhoused family of 4, there currently exists an empty house for each one of those 4). We can't sleep on the streets, because it's illegal to be homeless (documented) & we'll be jailed, ruining any future housing chances (despite a few **months'** stint in jail costing more than simply paying to house struggling people for an entire **year** ) (both thoroughly documented & data easily demonstrated). We can't eat, because every food CEO - even our $!#-&ing potato CEOs - are colluding together to create faux monopolies that fall *just* shy of legal limits, in order to jointly raise prices (recently proven, though likely will go uncharged since Khan is going to be fired on January 20th when the new oligarchy assumes power). The Line Goes Up. It must always go up, because a steady line is considered a failing company. The wealth gap has passed the so-called "gilded age" (Rockefeller-era) numbers. With the incoming government & Ailes' state media, it's only going to get worse. We are at our limits. We are at our limits. The pressure cooker is screaming. Please learn from us and do better.

[@imperialmotoring3789]

Why do Canadians meddle in USA's affairs? Don't you have a tree to sap or something?

[@Neesha2460]

Deny, Defend, Depose.... Free Luigi Mangione ... HE IS A HERO

[@dorkish]

"He had a wife and kids!" and so did the many people he denied healthcare.

[@denifnaf5874]

Hidler had a wife Stalin had a wife and kids Osama had wifes and kids

[@jerrysstories711]

Ooooh, the shadow is supposed to be a noose. I thought it was an incongruous guitar.

[@reach4thesports897]

it also doubles as the gunmen’s arms pointing out in front of him

[@Echo81Rumple83]

One other commentor thought it looked like a screwdriver. Either way, art is meant to be interpreted in many ways; I just hope some folks will get the core concept of this historical upset.

[@insomnamygdala]

absolutely radical video. I knew about Punk With a Camera, but I didn't know they did so much for pushing out that conversation - I only knew them for their band coverage. you're making me look at them with a new lens and look into more of their work. the stuff from Brandon at PWAC was great to hear, and made me feel like we're finally taking a step somewhere at the base of the culture. this last month has definitely been one of the first times i was able to start and enjoy a conversation with several people around me who usually avoid the 'taboo' radical conversations. I feel able to give definitions to societal issues easier now with the coverage and appreciation of some of the art around this Event. awesome use of the fog machine btw, dynamically changes your scene in an interesting way as the conversation went on.

[@mom.left.me.at.michaels9951]

He wasn't just a CEO - the claim denied rate went up when he started working for United Healthcare and it's known as the worst insurance you can have. It is *possible* to be a millionaire but not a monster, he was a monster. There's a reason he was singled out, the decision maker. Not people just "doing their job" and pushing paperwork. Also they did rethink that whole surgery while awake thing so it definitely did change something.

[@kingcrafteroderderfahradtu7331]

I’m no red but I do agree that the 1% has to be reminded occasionally that their actions have consequences

[@imperialmotoring3789]

Yes. Murder will get Luigi life in prison.

[@kingcrafteroderderfahradtu7331]

@@imperialmotoring3789 so? Only makes him a martyr

[@wise_lynx]

I am liking the new format Shawn. Every scene and shot is beautifully done

[@JackFoxtrotEDM]

It's genuinely saddening it came to this, but I literally could not have seen any other way that things could've worked out. When this has been a problem for so many decades and healthcare insurance is invincible BY LAW, I don't think there's anything else we can do...

[@mathsyasian]

I agree that the exploitation of capitalism in life saving fields of business is evil and should be abolished, but I wholeheartedly believe that there were ways to go about it that didn't feed into the cycle of killing and perversion of good values. the message that was propagated from the assassination was a call for change, to end the apathy and death brought by greed and selfishness- but what good is a message that's built on an action that acts as it's very antithesis? all human life inherently has value, but it can be disregarded in the right circumstances? the killing of another celebrated? I don't know how else the situation could've been helped unless luigi used his resources to found a fair healthcare company, but I believe defiling morals is a step in the wrong direction no matter the outcome

[@ronantheronin3521]

​@@mathsyasian The US healthcare system isn't capitalist. The reason why, is due to the fact that NO ONE is allowed to make their own medical industry, because the government gave protections like Patent laws to them to make it impossible to provide healthcare for cheaper prices. There is an easy way to stop medical monopolies and that is to focus on government policy and understanding why most laws and restrictions are bad for consumers. Luigi is a bad person, the CEO was a bad person, but murder is never EVER the answer for getting what you want. Violence is a tool that leads to tyranny and mindless bloodshed. Revolutionaries are stupid most of the time, because revolutions for equality lead to dictators taking control like in France, Germany and the Soviet Union.

[@mathsyasian]

@ronantheronin3521 I had no idea about the patents, that's crooked. and j agree with you that revolutionist mostly just end up being the next source of oppression or corruption, especially when they bend and break their own values in order to carry out something to further their own goals, and violence never goes anywhere helpful

[@JackFoxtrotEDM]

@@mathsyasian Yeah, for example there's a lot of patented drugs that exist, so we can't get cheaper OTC stuff. If a patent expires, they just change the chemical formula very slightly and then re-patent it so they still have exclusive sale rights to it. I might be wrong, but I believe that's what Johnson & Johnson was doing with their tuberculosis medication.

[@nataliewalton8590]

Bs, Luigi didn't protest or do anything before this. He was mad at killed a man. Purely selfish

[@Resultsnottalk]

Shows the racism and classism. One rich dude gets killed and every cop is focused on finding killer. How many people have been killed in NY since 12/4 and how many of the killers brought to justice?

[@Eighthplanetglass]

Saved to: Art History. Thank you for educating, as always

[@nillyk5671]

Anyone can breed and have children. That doesn't make you special. He was a father and a husband but lived separated from his so called family since 2018. Also his kids are 17 and 19 and they are used to not seeing him because they had conflicts. I'd be embarrassed to find out that my lifestyle was financed by the death of thousands.

[@mathsyasian]

it doesn't mean that his life was incapable of change or of good, I think that we should act in love always- I'm disturbed by the idea that a man's life can be so easily disregarded or downright despised, and how an assassination could be glorified to such an extent by people who genuinely want needless killing and apathy to end

[@bryanjackson8917]

I'm sure his kids are deeply saddened by Brian's passing, and will need a lot and lot of money to pay for their therapy!

[@theofficialbruhfish8094]

⁠@@mathsyasianyes, everyone can change for the better, but that usually only comes from direct intervention. Getting across to CEOs of all people is almost impossible, so Luigi only had one way to change what he despised

[@leoknight7763]

I appreciate you bringing attention to this, I didn't even hear about this story. It gives me hope, so thank you for bringing it to your audience, new and old :)

[@nadinnnaaahhh]

spade ink is an insane artist, love her work

[@xavierbarrette566]

Félicitations d’avoir pris la décision de changer de cap, d’aligner cette chaîne avec la personne que tu es maintenant, c’est tout à ton honneur. En plus de profiter de ta plateforme pour promouvoir des valeurs qui te tiennent à coeur, ça me semble d’autant plus authentique, que c’en soit la cause ou le résultat. Take care Shawn.

[@mrthiagalf]

And the shadow in the drawing looks like a screwdriver. Luigi was "fixing" what's wrong.

[@Echo81Rumple83]

It looks like a noose to some of us, but that's the beauty of art: people interpret art in many different ways.

[@benevolentbaphomet]

It's more like an enema 😂😂😂

[@flatbunny]

Great video. Always nice to see some punk and anarchist art featured.

[@Michelle_Wellbeck]

Can't help but be cynical that Anarchism, Anti-Capitalism, punk etc. in today's culture turns into just an aesthetic. Instead of ephemeral internet memes, direct action's logic requires the proliferation of a new kind of meme that's not passive, it calls for the meme by way of action

[@CarlosMartinez-nj4wq]

I feel similarly, half the time these self identified anti capitalists or anarchists are really just marxist communists, which is totally their right but it's a different ideology that doesn't lend well to that narrowed scope

[@RovPrivyTube]

welcome to the watchlist comrades!

[@moonage_]

greetings comrade, and to the FBI guy observing as well!

[@TryinaD]

Hi FBI agent! Not even American but I’m sure the NYPD is watching me from their SG office.

[@weatheranddarkness]

@@TryinaD god, if only that were a complete joke. Like the amount of repression training they do, particularly with the IOF. Like this whole securitization of everything has gone way the fuck too far.

[@TryinaD]

@@weatheranddarkness yup, many countries dislike their involvement in foreign investigations

[@weatheranddarkness]

@@TryinaD it's like the US is the only country allowed to have legitimate sovereignty

[@CloudingITS]

>ceo gets killed >Assassinator's name is luigi >2024's biggest meme is luigi having trouble with healthcare

[@asoullesssubstitutefortheh1793]

I wait for your vidoes like damn, how many great artists I did find because of you. Haven't I thought you would make one about that event, but it suits the channel and I love it.

[@VoltasP]

Revachol?? Oh damn, that was the name of the town in Disco Elysium!! Highly recommended game, btw, it's an open world psychological detective mystery game that can either be a small town mystery full of quirky characters that turns into a journey of self-recovery, a paraphysical drug trip where you plumb the depths of the soul and the underlying mysteries of a world almost but not entirely unlike our own, a tense cop drama where the main character is trying to atone for his sins but can't do it without using booze as a crutch, or a deep political explorations of the virtues and vices of every place on the political spectrum. But more likely you're going to want to explore ALL of those, so it will be a little of all of that. Tons of game critics have covered it, but it really ought to be considered playable art.

[@weatheranddarkness]

OK fine, you've twisted my arm, I will finish this playthrough.

[@gemmapeter7173]

Where is the other revolutionary art in the video game space? I highly doubt Among Us radicalised anyone.

[@aaronunroe5267]

It is time for a drastic change. You, me, our families don’t have to be living with this much heartache and pain. We don’t need to suffer, time to wake up and change our world for the better…deny, defend and depose

[@cgautz]

Thanks!

[@Insanabiliter_In_Linea]

Punk with a Camera mentioned! Love that channel to death, if this helps them blow up even more I will be extremely happy. I've found so many great bands and fantastic merch from them over the years, they're great.

[@Bedonkabonk]

3:00 The system becomes more oppressive: Luigi merch with original art that people are trying to sell online is being hit with bogus copyright strikes. I think your video will be taken down if anyone in power or that one misguided restaurant employee sees it.

[@Rosa_Percs47]

So are you calling the restaurant employee misguided because they turned him in?

[@00PlPu00]

@@Rosa_Percs47 Fair, isn't it?

[@Rosa_Percs47]

@@00PlPu00 fair to call them misguided? No, not everyone shares the same views. Nor are they as politically motivated as everyone else. Maybe they didn’t look that deep into it and thought they were reporting a murderer. Idk. It just feels a little backhanded to me.

[@00PlPu00]

@@Rosa_Percs47 So literally no one can ever be called "misguided", as every position is a good as the next. To use your framing, if they did not look enough into it, they lacked "knowledge", "guidance" :)

[@Rosa_Percs47]

@@00PlPu00 no. I’m suggesting that maybe to that person in particular; there is a qualm towards murder in general. They aren’t swayed by any philosophical or political framework of belief. You’re suggesting they’re misguided because they don’t harbor your personal beliefs on why the murder is or was justified. That’s at least what I gleaned from the original comment.

[@MHDebidour]

Talk about anachism >> Black cat arrive

[@jacksonm4247]

I'm always so amazed by the power that art has to resonate and influence us. Great points here. Symbols can definitely help to unite and mobilize us. Also, I would be remiss if I didn't applaud your solid video editing. Nice job!

[@evathegrand]

Liked for the cat, commented for the deconstruction of artists.

[@angelagosto2911]

Great video. As an artist myself I wanted to see more about protest art throughout history in various countries and the methods used.

[@ivettispaghetti8895]

Cool as hell. I've been watching Punk with a Camera music videos for years.

[@reddishriver8806]

9:40 we could also say that the shadow looks like a match getting lit metaphorically representing luigi mangione lighting a fire/spark with his killing

[@nathanplumb3782]

I saw you guys having breakfast together so I can vouch for that!!!

[@Aaa32244]

That art piece is really cool

[@sunalwaysshinesonTVs]

Class consciousness happens as a result of the masses becoming aware that power is not something that one (or an elite group) have but rather as something that is given. As for the legal issues facing Luigi, the slogan is simple: "Luigi Mangione is innocent until proven Brian Thomson was not guilty"

[@tylerhood5035]

I have a friend that made a perp walk shirt on etsy and it got banned. She's really upset about it.

[@makaimaukahasopinions848]

Revolution is Necessary

[@matthewmason7792]

I remember seeing a tweet by someone unironically called “end wokeness” talking about the trial. He had a picture of Luigi laughing while saying something among the lines of “this man killed a father who did nothing to him and said he doesn’t care, how disgusting” Look le violence is le bad okay. Killing isn’t good… I feel like everyone needs to make this clear when talking about this but how many fathers that did nothing to Brian did he kill and bankrupt and ruin the lives of? How many more would have had this happen if he lived long enough to pass this ridiculous AI policy? Brian was not an innocent man. Stop pretending that he was. He was a monster who yes was killed in cold blood but it wasn’t for no reason.

[@ezz625]

Your best video yet; not only informative and an interesting view, but also really inspiring as an artist who works with leftist politics a lot! Thank you!

[@ryanreedgibson]

When I write a script for a US history video, the first asset I look for is the art created during the event.

[@lollipopwee1]

The shadow is so effective in describing one of America’s pain and retribution.

[@Andre-qo5ek]

capturing the narrative is super important.

[@KikoBean]

That brings up a wonderful point of, the CCTV did an excellent job of framing the shooter as "below" the ceo. I think that had a massive effect on how we percieve it

[@Sandra-hc4vo]

I always look forward to your videos. I like the way you put politics into your videos, you often have a unique take on what's happening and bring it into art as well. It's really great. For the political event, I was so surprised how so many people accepted it as they did, and really embraced this as a good thing. I agree definitely that the event is a symbol to show people we do have power. It was a great reminder honestly. And awesome that people made memes and shared and everything else.

[@bargainbrandmusician]

punk with a camera mention

[@emma-eo2dc]

i haven’t finished this video yet but i’m so glad to see that you covered this topic. so interesting.

[@andrediego6131]

People revolting against big company CEO billionaries is the reason Luigi is getting praise for alleged murder

[@MisSorryforthespam]

My favorite art from the movement so far is honestly just the audio of the news clips saying D.D.D over the opening rift for Brain Stew.

[@buildinganewworld2682]

There has been SO much art that came out, I hope you do more!

[@getcrepuscular9755]

The black cat is a nice touch

[@aubreyjane7536]

Seeing pwac on here is actually insane, it's so awesome

[@suviedeggbites]

That thumbnail is so cool fr

[@TheRageCommenter]

Art conveys how people feel. And historically preserves an event

[@danallen578]

The inclusion of the noose and the meaning it does and will carry. Woah.

[@numbersix8919]

Thanks for the thing man. Do your thing. ✊

[@milkmilk807]

holy shit, i stumbled upon Punk with a camera from a completely unrelated side (the chaos marine art) and now I definitely know this is a person I want to support

[@thecitizen49]

As a person who doesn't own a car or a TV, I was impressed that the assassin escaped on a bicycle. Not owning a car is a gateway into anarchism because the privately owned automobile is corporate capitalism most important commodity and is a symbol of wage slavery and the meaninglessness of modern life. It is also the great taboo to speak truth about our deadly, diseased obsession with the automobile. Divorce your car and cancel your lifetime subscription to the gasoline pump.

[@sp8ced3m0nbonapathy8]

Interesting. Except for the part where you think this was real and not staged.

[@patcaza6166]

cars are prison cells with wheels

[@blacktecno]

Although I see where you are coming from many people such as small farmers are very reliant on vehicles. I can see such obsession in countries so car-centric as the US but in Europe the car gives you a ridiculous amount of freedom and it's almost a necessity when living outside of a city. I don't think we should go back to carts and horses or just plain walking. Not owning a TV is great though. More time for reading and feeding the mind.

[@sp8ced3m0nbonapathy8]

@blacktecno books are just a different medium for propaganda and indoctrination. Not so much different than television except for the electromagnetism.

[@gothiiirafiii]

​@sp8ced3m0nbonapathy8 Staged or not, you have to admit that the public response goes against whatever intent the staging may have had. If this was an intentional hit put out by someone else, especially if it was by other high-up bourgeois, I highly doubt they *meant* for it to be made into a widespread call to class consciousness. Letting yourself lose all hope of this murder leading to meaningful change by dubbing it false even in the face of overwhelming evidence that the public is more than willing to tear the system down at this point by any means necessary is frighteningly passive of you. Being more willing to believe that nothing will change kills not just your own spirit, but the sprouting movement that begs you at the very least not to trample over it.

[@gljames24]

We need Consumer Cooperative Healthcare, not Shareholder owned healthcare. Whether nationalized or not.

[@MrPhotodoc]

Green Day riff at the intro hooked me.

[@soapypunchers9257]

IMMEDIATELY lost my shit right as you credited PWAC!! I've been friends with Brandon for a long time; he's such a sweetie pie ☺️

[@marcellinodadon1103]

_... your room is so chill..._ 💯

[@sfinxen1917]

Great video, deny, defend, depose!

[@omarpervaiz]

Eat the rich... with spaghetti 🤌🏽🍝

[@BeckyBucky3]

People get shot daily in USA, they put so much spotlight on Luigi to make an example out of him.

[@Rompulus]

I'm not gonna tiptoe around it: Luigi Mangione is a hero and the only man with the balls to take a stand for what's right.

[@yvonnecita1952]

Very interesting video… It’s a performance of art also… the light coming from what seems to be a balcony, dispersed into the room from the back, the cat walking around as if saying “I’m here”… the man sitting on the floor, humbly, using those autumnal colors… It seems that it was all made with a very fine artistic purpose. Thank you!

[@theburritomonkey9900]

I hope Luigi Mangione gets a truly fair trial. DENY, DEFEND, DEPOSE!!

[@michaelocallaghan3951]

This is a very good thought provoking video.

[@alx4animalss]

Jury Nullification

[@valerieladeda]

So glad your channel showed up in my feed!

[@Rozilla]

We care the same amount for that CEO as he did for the people whose claims he denied - ie absolutely nowt.