The idea of a serial killer operating in Bergen who always leaves a snowman as a calling card is really kind of amusing if you've ever lived there. Winters in Bergen mostly consists of rain and slush, with maybe a week or two of actual snow on the ground per year. So now I'm imagining a frustrated serial killer getting more and more impatient as weeks and months go by with no snow at all. And then he has even worse days when it starts snowing, so he hurries out to find a victim, but by the time he has found one and has the opportunity to kill them, the snow has already turned to slush and he has to go home even more frustrated once again. He must spend a lot of time wondering why he decided to go with such a counter productive calling card when he operates in Bergen of all places. No wonder he relocated to Oslo if was dead set on sticking with the snowman gimmick.
@dansyourjor58132 жыл бұрын
LOLOLOL I LOVE THAT 🤣🤣🤣
@erocrush2 жыл бұрын
I dated a Norwegian and the idea of a serial killer leaving snowmen all over Oslo feels like exactly the kind of joke she loved: So insular that people in the UK and US would never get it...which makes it even funnier to a Norwegian.
@sugarbugx35642 жыл бұрын
This is beautiful
@hanna-liminal2 жыл бұрын
it really adds to the way the author of the book (and scandinavian murder mystery generally) seems to approach the genre. not as gritty thrillers, but as black comedies with mystery elements
@lich1092 жыл бұрын
I'm late, but people in the movie don't actually learn that the serial killer leaves the snowmen as a calling card, because by the time they show up, the snowmen parts have melted. There's only one victim where they see the snowman part, however they don't make the connection and think it's a one-off.
@soupalex4 жыл бұрын
"hello, moe's tavern" "is detective hole there?" "who?" "hole. first name: harry" "[sigh] okay i'll check. HEY HAS ANYONE SEEN HARRY HOLE? I'M LOOKIN' FOR HARRY HOLE!"
@geoentronecromancer4 жыл бұрын
"INSPECTER HARRY HOLE!!" .... "Alright, listen, you little bastard...."
@mathieuleader86014 жыл бұрын
Hugh Jass
@cheezemonkeyeater4 жыл бұрын
@@mathieuleader8601 Moe: Okay, Bart, I know that's you. Nobody in the world could possibly be named Harry Hole. Michael Fassbender: Right here, Moe. *takes phone
@jamestwomey97134 жыл бұрын
"someone check the men's room for a harry hole"
@THE.N1KO3 жыл бұрын
7:23 "Ah. The GREAT Harry Hole".
@beeflethals4 жыл бұрын
INSPECTER HOLE? I HARDLY KNOW HER!
@thatcutenerdgirl60903 жыл бұрын
Sir, this is a crime scene
@taimatsuko2 жыл бұрын
🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️
@probablytawny Жыл бұрын
I giggled audibly at that line and confused my coworkers
@ProjectRedfoot Жыл бұрын
Sir, this is an Arby's
@Notantree Жыл бұрын
Fine take your like.
@Ocrilat4 жыл бұрын
"Cutting things up into little pieces, that's what a child does to establish order." (Shows shot of sausage cut up.) I love this line, because it's so stupid. A child doesn't cut up their food to establish order. Their parents cut it up so the kid doesn't choke.
@Halokon4 жыл бұрын
Also, from many moons of personal experience with nephews, kids do not value any form of order. Control, maybe, power, sure. But kids seem to desire only chaos. If anything, order angers them greatly. Or maybe I’ve just been unlucky.
@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick4 жыл бұрын
halokon I think that’s a bit of an exaggeration. It’s not so much that kids crave chaos as they have a tendency to reject authority.
@Ocrilat4 жыл бұрын
@@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick Yea that's not my experience with children at all. Anyway, it's not the point. Kids don't cut up their own food at all. They are much more likely to cram whatever they can in their mouths and possibly choke...which is why parents cut up their food. It's not a rejection of authority or a craving for chaos. It's the inability to see consequences from their actions. That is learned. Anyway, none of these comments change the underlying fact that the line in the film is moronic.
@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick4 жыл бұрын
Ocrilat The rejecting authority thing didn’t have anything to do with the food, but you got my point.
@pennifold4 жыл бұрын
Actually I think taking things apart and sorting things are pretty universal styles of solo play... obviously doesn’t appeal to every kid, but unstructured space for sorting is integral to designing any play space that you actually want to be kid-driven (and of course many adults also enjoy such hobbies). Like leave a kid alone outside, and guaranteed most of them start collecting and sorting ‘cool things’
@torak494 жыл бұрын
Fun fact, the snowman is the SEVENTH part in a series of books. Wonderful place to start the story.
@jonathancampbell52314 жыл бұрын
Well, James Bond started with the 6th. I mean, this is nowhere near as good as even the worst Bond film, but still...
@theunwelcome4 жыл бұрын
apparently they thought they could Star Wars it
@davidcolby1674 жыл бұрын
It's less weird if it's like most detective stories, where the books don't have, like, an overarching plot but are instead a series of "detective shows up, solves crime, end" stories. Which, I mean, I have no idea if that's the case, but that's how Sherlock works!
@jakobbokaj1234 жыл бұрын
@@davidcolby167 these books are very connected tho, starting with the snowman makes no sense if you read the books, which is why the movie is very different from the book
@eacy7deacy4 жыл бұрын
Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon starts at part 5 I believe
@serapekkala82384 жыл бұрын
I started reading Nesbø’s books after The Snowman (film) came out because the trailer looked interesting, and I love me some Scandinavian noir. And what kills me is-Book!Harry speaks English fluently, guys. He knows how English speakers pronounce his name, and he knows exactly why it sounds weird and funny, and at several points in at least the first book, he expresses irritation and upset at having it mispronounced *that way*. AND YOU WANT TO TELL ME THE FILMMAKERS LET THIS CHARACTER SPEND TWO HOURS RUNNING AROUND CALLING HIMSELF HAIRY HOLE. I hate this.
@elvellarambles91514 жыл бұрын
wut r u serious?? in the words of hbomb: "HOW DID U FUCK IT UP THIS BAD"
@serapekkala82384 жыл бұрын
Elvella Rambles I am absolutely 100% serious, and I have no clue why this was allowed.
@Ghebatta4 жыл бұрын
@@elvellarambles9151 The running joke is that he prefers when they mispronounce it "Holy" instead.
@MrPiccoloku4 жыл бұрын
Inspector Harry Hole.
@Loki_K4 жыл бұрын
@@elvellarambles9151 ask m. Night shamalan about Ahhhhhhhhng (Aang, The Last Airbender)
@blane24724 жыл бұрын
'Harry Hole' will never stop being funny to me, but realising now that they CHOSE to name him that, despite having perfectly valid options to NOT name him 'Harry Hole', makes it about 100X funnier.
@DisDatK94 жыл бұрын
Blane “this film is gonna suck anyways, may as well have fun with it”
@the1disaster4 жыл бұрын
@@ChristieBrewster i barely know 'er!
@DStecks4 жыл бұрын
I'm just imagining being someone in the audience who just watched a trailer and is expecting a tense, even scary thriller, and bam the hero's name is Harry Hole
@trtx844 жыл бұрын
"Dirty Harry (Hole)"
@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick4 жыл бұрын
Blane Especially when you consider that the author was ABUNDANTLY AWARE of how ridiculous it is with an English pronunciation. The first book is set in Australia, and has Harry CONSTANTLY correcting people about the pronunciation of his name, after they universally chuckle at the name “Harry Hole”.
@GibusWearingMann4 жыл бұрын
The police not collecting any evidence really gives "Mister Police you could have saved her I gave you all the clues" a new meaning
@kategrant27284 жыл бұрын
The Serial Killer was not taunting the police. He was begging them to do their jobs.
@jamesmallone4 жыл бұрын
@@kategrant2728 Doing some quick research about the novel, apparently in the novel the killer was dying and wanted to be caught and killed, which actually makes this oddly appropriate.
@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick4 жыл бұрын
Gibus Wearing Mann It’s like how the Riddler would act in a world without the Batman. “Like...C’MON! At least TRY to play along! Please? Is there ONE of you that won’t ruin my fun?!”
@blokey84 жыл бұрын
Wasn't that a Mitchell and Webb sketch?
@johannathorn66524 жыл бұрын
"Mister Police I literally left my DNA at the crime scene"
@richardsonrym4 жыл бұрын
"It's actually a sad, evil snowman. BWAAH" Love it.
@TheStanishStudios4 жыл бұрын
CACKLED at that reveal
@Geospasmic4 жыл бұрын
It was one of my "had to rewind it and watch it again because I was laughing too hard and missed the rest" moments.
@take5transfat4 жыл бұрын
snowman w three layers = good, creative product of child snowman w two layers = evil, serial killer calling card good to know
@ss5447-p2q4 жыл бұрын
29:46 if you need to rewatch it to death
@GrixieKong4 жыл бұрын
Aw, he looks so sad with his bumpy nose and little stick arms reaching up for a hug!
@CharismaticMegafauna Жыл бұрын
Netflix hyping this movie up brought me back here. I would like to add that according to wikipedia, the editors for this film were Thelma Schoonmaker and Claire Simpson. To put that in perspective, Schoonmaker has been Martin Scorcese's editor for over 40 years. Every film since Raging Bull. This is the woman who edited Goodfellas, Casino, The Wolf of Wall Street, so on. She's won three Oscars. Simpson is is the editor behind Platoon, which she won an Oscar for. These are editors who regardless of if you like the films they have worked on, are objectively competent, have demonstrated talent, are experienced, and know how to put together a damn film. So the fact that THEY couldn't salvage this film points to bigger problems, such as the shooting schedule, cinematography, direction, the fact that they dropped some 15% of the script, the budget... I guess what I'm trying to say is this is REALLY bad for a commercially released film, right. If two people who are considered talented editors couldn't save this film or at least make it less nonsensical, what was going on behind the scenes was probably unfathomably awful. Like, did the DP consider how their shots would actually look? Were these the only usable takes? Was production so rushed that nobody gave a shit? As an editor, this film is the stuff of nightmares.
@lark739211 ай бұрын
Why do Dutch people have such silly names like “schoonmaker”
@Blueeyesthewarrior8 ай бұрын
The two of them are just sitting there, staring at the pitiful amount of footage, saying to themselves, "How the fuck are we going to make a movie out of this?"
@paulmahoney76198 ай бұрын
I think if I was a professional editor with half the career of either of these two women, I'd tender my resignation out of the belief I'd been handed an impossible task to insult me, underpay me, humiliate me, or any combination of the three.
@sixstringedthing7 ай бұрын
Aside from the technical challenges involved in turning a pile of inconsistent mush into a coherent film, can you imagine what it must have been like to sit in an edit suite and hear "Harry Hole", "Harry Hole", "Harry Hole", over and over again for hours on end? That's not work, that's a highly specific form of cruel and unusual punishment.
@wasserperson6 ай бұрын
The penny finally dropped for me on a left-field hypothesis: The original shooting script/storyboard/director+dp's vision was a remix/mashup/homage of Nolan's Insomnia & Mann's Heat. The trope-echoes of camera and plot are just too too too much there for it to be a coincidence, imho... I am now to become the Gosling for this AvataPyrus.
@gwacie984 жыл бұрын
“I don’t really have a point here, but it is very funny” - me at 6am after pulling an all nighter running out of things to say in an analytical paper that’s due in two hours
@csours4 жыл бұрын
I'm going to start ending my work emails and presentations with this. edit: Actually, this is my new email signature.
@Wyrdangus4 жыл бұрын
sian g kim Me, at 3am, writing a perceived literary masterpiece that I will inevitably realise is actually garbage and that I wasted 5 hours writing last night
@m.m.44234 жыл бұрын
what was that, 'i'm in this picture and i don't like it'?
@beaniepq4 жыл бұрын
Wyrdangus god, this comment is such a mood.
@IrisGlowingBlue4 жыл бұрын
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@vanilloia74793 жыл бұрын
"it's not a game of cat and mouse, but a game of a plastic surgeon recklessly murdering a whole bunch of people, and the police who are too stupid to catch him because they don't bother to collect evidence" actually sounds like a very realistic depiction of serial killers
@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick3 жыл бұрын
But that’s not fun to watch, is it? If I wanted to see a bunch of incompetent idiots with guns trip on themselves trying to stop a different incompetent idiot from stabbing people because he hates women, I’d watch the news.
@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick3 жыл бұрын
@@shadowwolf9955 If you know anything about Joon-Ho’s politics, you’ll know he’d tend to agree with me.
@shadowwolf99553 жыл бұрын
@@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick yes? That's what the movie is about? Hence why I mentioned it? I'm not sure why you're being so confrontational or condescending.
@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick3 жыл бұрын
@@shadowwolf9955 1. You started it. 2. I know it’s compelling. I’ve seen it. It’s good. Doesn’t take away from my point.
@JeanMarceaux2 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of a meme I saw somewhere (maybe on Voice Quills). It goes like this: "Crime TV series: the killer was only caught because of cutting edge technologies and intense investigative work. True crime documentaries: despite the constant complaints from neighbors, it took police five months to finally investigate the rotting smell coming from the killer's apartment"
@ethanrichmond39924 жыл бұрын
The irony of the studio that made this being called "Working Title" is just amazing.
@PointsofData4 жыл бұрын
You mean "the fucking perfection"
@thallesregis4 жыл бұрын
They also made Cats, think about that.
@jcardboard4 жыл бұрын
@@thallesregis they made a lot of really great films in the 90s, used to be a venerable production company. Not so much now.
@blokey84 жыл бұрын
@@jcardboard They did let Edgar Wright make Baby Driver.
@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick4 жыл бұрын
Ethan Latinum That isn’t ironic. I believe the word you were referring to was “entirely expected.”
@tychoazrephet37944 жыл бұрын
The Snowman is actually brilliant if you view it through the lens of a story about a killer who dismembers bodies, so they chose to represent that with a film composed of dismembered shots.
@RetepAdam4 жыл бұрын
Tomas Alfredsson: 🎵 “Do you want to build a Snowman?” 🎵 Working Title: “........eh.”
@TheHyperBassist4 жыл бұрын
Would’ve been cool if true, but that’s giving the filmmakers too much credit
@slowdancers4 жыл бұрын
that's giving the studio way too much credit for doing a half-baked job 😭 love the idea though
@MichaelSmith-iv2rp4 жыл бұрын
This guy gets it!
@trtx844 жыл бұрын
That's is on a galaxy brain level rivaled only by Tommy Wisseau retroactively claiming the room was a comedy.
@mdr483714 жыл бұрын
In a better timeline, the movie would have been the best version it could be, the Greatest Snowman.
@TenseIntense4 жыл бұрын
I laughed. Kudos.
@hseile73144 жыл бұрын
Me too😄
@IrisGlowingBlue4 жыл бұрын
Ayyyyyyyyyyyy
@thatcutenerdgirl60904 жыл бұрын
Think of how great this movie would have been as a musical 😂
@elfenf3uer4 жыл бұрын
that genuinely made me laugh out loud
@caitmonroe93494 жыл бұрын
If only the killer had met his own Anastasia Steele to save him from his need to punish women that remind him of his dead mom...
@Mecharnie_Dobbs4 жыл бұрын
Maybe E.L.James read something like this and thought:"I'll make this better by taking out the murders and putting in kinky sex instead." A lot of films could be improved.
@elafimilo81994 жыл бұрын
@@Mecharnie_Dobbs It'd be like the "in bed" thing
@dawnlandspodcast82174 жыл бұрын
He's not rich and hot, so it's not acceptable
@3dTales4 жыл бұрын
This made me lol
@bandidocavalier4 жыл бұрын
@@dawnlandspodcast8217 damn bro y so salty did your mom fell into the ice too?
@Electroporcupine4 жыл бұрын
The "Mister Police" poster gets a lot of attention, deservedly, for being dreadful, but the main poster with Fassbender walking through the snow deserves some attention too. Because it features the real tagline for the film: Soon the first snow will fall, and the hunt for a killer begins. The tagline for this film changes tense midway through. Amazing.
@travdump2094 жыл бұрын
It's so *easy* to fix, too!
@Sirvaria4 жыл бұрын
Wow thats hilarious
@Snow_Fire_Flame4 жыл бұрын
The "Mister Police" line was poetry, don't deny it. He gave you all the clues.
@alex05894 жыл бұрын
wow aha, edited weird sentence was marketing by.
@rsfilmdiscussionchannel41684 жыл бұрын
I know. It should say "the hunt for a killer will begin" or "The first snow falls"
@TooFatTooFurious4 жыл бұрын
- Can I keep this? - No. *exact same tone* - Can I keep this? - Shit, you are really convincing. Yeah, sure.
@mads_in_zero4 жыл бұрын
Reloading when you fail a speech check
@liriodendronlasianthus3 жыл бұрын
I think it was an acting mistake. Or they were filming options, so an editing mistake.
@ILikedGooglePlus3 жыл бұрын
Jumba: "Wwwhhaaatttt? After all you've put me through, you expect me to let you go just like that? Jjjjjuuusssstttt like THAT?" Stitch: "Ih." Jumba: "Ok." Pleakley: "Really? We're doing what he says?" Jumba: "He is *very* persuasive."
@johnjohnson36812 жыл бұрын
@@mads_in_zero Disco Elysium be like
@guruguru6872 жыл бұрын
I implore you to reconsider
@yourpalfred4 жыл бұрын
This and the Suicide Squad video are heavy in my comfort video rotation. There's something so soothing about the calm, reasoned assurance that things can and should make sense.
@liriodendronlasianthus3 жыл бұрын
Yup, I think I've watched this one 10 times or more.
@OfficialROZWBRAZEL3 жыл бұрын
he has that professor cadence no matter what he's talking about, it's great
@seabob3373 жыл бұрын
I just like watching him pretend to chug cough syrup tbh
@sydssolanumsamsys2 жыл бұрын
@@OfficialROZWBRAZEL nobody can say "and its very funny" in reference to Harry Hole quite as seriously
@crispus.corvus2 жыл бұрын
This. The only complain I have is the sudden volume change during the concert scene. Otherwise the video is so comforting that I often fall asleep with it as a background noise 😌
@Biring14 жыл бұрын
Fun story: the entire Norwegian tax incentive foundation by the state was created because of this film since it was to be shot in Stockholm due to the tax reductions... We needed this in Oslo and the state finally got their fingers out of their asses. Every filmworker in Norway was on this film and it's such a trainwreck. Everyone smokes inside (which is illegal), towards the end Hole drives from Oslo to Telemark (in 2 minutes) and crossing the atlantic road in between (which is in a different part of the country, I guess it was a demand for tourist attraction) and they all pronouce their names in such a bizarre way. I guess it was a sign of failure when author Jo Nesbø went climbing instead of attending the premiere and saying that it was not his story to the newspapers.
@penname84414 жыл бұрын
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@LucyLioness1004 жыл бұрын
If I were Jo Nesbø, I would’ve not attended the premiere either. And he had every right to dislike the finished film as it spits on the source material with plenty of the changes made; thankfully the main plot is kept intact and included the characters within that narrative but woefully painful to watch
@PandyBong4 жыл бұрын
@@LucyLioness100 Not that it sounds like the source material is all that great to begin with
@haingis4 жыл бұрын
I remember we got a mail through work where we could apply as extras. I was a freelance animator at the time working on another movie, so I didn't... even though I probably wouldn't have been picked, I'm glad my face is not shown in this movie : )
@ACruelPicture4 жыл бұрын
And it was directed by a Swede just as to spite Norway
@indigohalf4 жыл бұрын
As a sometimes cartoonist, I unironically love the snowman drawing from the poster. Its little constipated face makes me smile. A+, would use as my userpic. As a mostly sane human, I am perplexed by the presence of an adorable little puppy in a building that is getting fumigated. And nobody in the scene seems concerned? Like?? I have questions.
@UnreasonableOpinions2 жыл бұрын
I mean, apparently nobody even cares about shooting at people or being shot at at random, so in this perverse universe yeah.
@goosegas20872 жыл бұрын
It kinda reminds me of TBH.
@zachflag65063 жыл бұрын
I remember seeing a review article for The Snowman titled something like "The Main Character of *The Snowman* is named Harry Hole and Things Only Get Worse from There," and honestly? Titles don't get much stronger than that
@mudmudmud70074 жыл бұрын
the snowman drawing makes me lose it each time i see it... it looks like the hot choclety milk spider
@greenybeeny71393 жыл бұрын
LMAO 😭😭
@katatat20302 жыл бұрын
Omg that's what I was thinking of
@maddieb.4282 Жыл бұрын
STOP THATS WHY I RECOGNISED IT HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
@marinabarcellos9859 Жыл бұрын
I miss these "Art of Editing" videos! If Dan decided to make more of them I would EAT IT UP
@VictoriatheWolfGirl Жыл бұрын
I understand why he doesn't though. He wants to make sure his content isn't becoming too copy paste, and I'm confident after a bit that he'll move from grifts to something else, heck the World of Warcraft video shows that he's already deviating from strictly grift based content As a viewer, it's understandable to miss certain kinds of content, but when you actually make content, a lot of the time it can start feeling like a copy paste process
@kristinemalmedal83994 жыл бұрын
I still can't believe they went with the english pronunciation of Hole's name.
@somestuff78764 жыл бұрын
They should have used the original version. Which in turn would guarantee that we, over here, would get to hear the original version in the theaters))) Cause in Russian original version sounds even worse - Harry What-the-fuck (хуля) lol
@kathrynmiller42404 жыл бұрын
The author intentionally chose a name that sounded awkward in English, the tone of the books that are darkly humorous. The problem is not so much the name but that the film plays it straight - as with the snowman thing. It’s MEANT to be ott but the film doesn’t seem to realise that...
@PointsofData4 жыл бұрын
Coupled with his first name it's hard to take the movie seriously anytime it comes up. And it's not like Americans havent heard last names with weird ass pronunciations. Fuck, HALF of us have weird ass last names. _I_ have a weird ass last name.
@mollymcdade40314 жыл бұрын
If they had gone for Harry Hill that would have also been hilarious for UK release (we have a British comedian called Harry Hill)
@HisNeverland4 жыл бұрын
@@kathrynmiller4240 So? It's still not meant to be pronounced in English, but Norwegian. It would have made it a little less bad
@comfortpenguin45042 жыл бұрын
What Dan fails to mention is that after the: "Can I keep these?" "No." "Can I keep these?" "*sigh* Yeah, sure." scene it cuts to a scene in which *SPOILERS* Michael Fassbender breaks into Rebecca Ferguson's house, FUCKING BODY SLAMS her to the ground, then pins her down while she cries about her murdered father. It's the wildest, out of nowhere, 3 beat vibe switch I've ever seen in cinema.
@youtube-kit9450 Жыл бұрын
You cannot just write a bombshell like that and not at least try to explain why Fassbender did so.
@prettyface146 Жыл бұрын
@@youtube-kit9450I have watched this movie twice and I’m still not entirely sure. It seems to be because he just found out she is Rafto’s daughter and has a personal interest in the case, but I don’t see how it warranted that reaction
@adeadarcadia Жыл бұрын
@@youtube-kit9450 afterwards, he takes her gun and badge. also then she tells him he has no balls and hands him more vodka
@adeadarcadia Жыл бұрын
@@youtube-kit9450 I rewatched it btw, and when he goes to her apartment to question her, she actually attacks him first
@No-Name00872 ай бұрын
You can't just describe this scene and *NOT* post a link to the clip you insane bastard. Now my mind's gonna be imagining how this looked all night!
@humphreyspellingbee17322 жыл бұрын
It’s a small detail, but can we talk about how hilariously buck wild the Anglicization choices in this movie are? Like, they’re not going to change Harry Hole’s name to something that doesn’t sound like an innuendo in English, but they *are* going to change tram line 18’s final stop from Rikshospitalet (which it is in real life) to Oslo Hospital because *god forbid the audience sees or hears a single Norwegian word in this movie that takes place in Norway*
@Nazgy10 ай бұрын
This is made even worse by the fact that Oslo Hospital IS a stop on the tram, but it's not even on the Rikshospitalet line - it's on line 13 and 19.
@guyyouseewhenyoudie9 ай бұрын
@@Nazgyi love this. I love that this movie is the reason why i’m learning about Norway
@TheEvilDuckMagster4 жыл бұрын
As a Norwegian, I just want to comment that the color grade from the trailer is so much more realistic. When you are out in the snow, in the norwegian woods, in the evening, it is really blue. This seems to be a creative decision, even if its a bad one.
@NavigatorBR4 жыл бұрын
One of the things I loved from the American "Girl With The Dragon Tattoo" was the blue hue everything had. I don't know why, but I just love that color tone.
@firetarrasque46674 жыл бұрын
Not a Norwegian, but this is something I've witnessed too. It's awesome and beautiful.
@AgentPedestrian4 жыл бұрын
Yeah up north the shadows are just blue and it's weird to imagine that other places don't have that
@Epinardscaramel4 жыл бұрын
Sounds nice!
@JacksonKillroy3 жыл бұрын
That's surprising to hear, I always assumed it was a cheap visual shorthand for "cold place", similarly to how scenes in Mexico or Africa are often graded a harsh orange.
@some_random_user_who_is_random3 жыл бұрын
My theory for the colors being muted is that it makes it easier to cut together unrelated scenes, because lighting discrepancies wouldn't be as noticeable. I've heard Escape from Tomorrowland was black and white so they could be more flexible in what times of day they "sneakily" shot their film inside Disney parks.
@JazzyNym4 жыл бұрын
Film editor here. While, like you, I do not know the story behind this production, I can tell you that there has been this weird trend of directors falling in love with ungraded footage. At least for a lot of people I know, it drives us insane (particularly the cinematographers). I think it comes from them either watching dailies without a LUT, or sometimes (although usually rare) we'll create transcodes without a LUT and edit with the flat footage, and after seeing the film that way for so long they fall in love with that look. Or maybe they think it makes their film more artistic... I don't know. I once had a director tell me he doesn't like deep color and a lot of contrast and I was like... great. As a side note, the moving shots you pointed out in the beginning are a thorn in my side. I've been given many scenes where the camera is moving for no other reason than "just because." Like they thought the scene would be boring without it. Even worse is when it's intentional, but without regard to editing. My favorite is when, after you hear "cut," someone will say "I think that'll cut great" and you're sitting there with the footage, at a loss for what to do because hardly any of the setups cut together smoothly. Unless you have a true concept of how movement works with the eye and how things cut together (or if there is a direct intention to it like dramatizing a line/emotion/etc), don't do it. While I understand not a lot of people necessarily enjoy the editing process (it can get *very* tedious), I think more people from production need to understand what their choices look like when assembled in the edit.
@liriodendronlasianthus3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the insight!
@JacksonKillroy3 жыл бұрын
Video/commercial director here, I had a long phase where I was intensely in love with the look of ungraded footage and would constantly get into fights with editors and DOPs over color grading. At some point, during a period of not working on anything I snapped out of it and now I have no idea what I was thinking. I know that I thought the graded footage looked garish and cartoony to me and that I didn't like how there was less visual information in the image when the contrast was higher, but I don't understand how the ungraded footage looked appealing to me. EDIT: after rereading your comment I can confirm that for me the factor was definitely getting used to the raw look during the edit.
@caramelldansen22042 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the reasoning behind that is the film parallel to the reasons behind what's called the "7th gen piss filter", referring to the tendency for the 7th generation of video games to include low-saturation, brown/yellow-biased filters over the in-game graphics (like sepia, but worse.)
@drpibisback76802 жыл бұрын
@@caramelldansen2204 "Weren't you aware? Real is brown." - VG Cats, on the notorious "Call of Duty Brown" look.
@caramelldansen22042 жыл бұрын
@@drpibisback7680 Seriously. It's almost like giving the most culturally-isolated, bourgeois elements of society complete, irrevocable, dictatorial control over the vast majority of media is a bad idea, and that working people who know what they're doing should direct films, TV and games.
@euanburns38914 жыл бұрын
This movie is one of the only extremely bad movies I’ve seen that I was completed unprepared for. I had finished a work shift around noon coincidentally near a cinema. I figured, hey, let’s not waste it. I went in to watch whatever the next movie was. It was The Snowman. Dan doesn’t talk about the scene that stayed with me the most in how indescribable and incomprehensible it is. Katrine is spying on JK Simmons in a theatre(maybe?). Creepy doctor introduces a woman to Simmons. Simmons strips her, takes her photo and loudly insults the doctor. I had no idea why. All this happens while the film seems to imply Katrine is 10 feet away in the open, holding up her big tablet. I just found it baffling not only in how bad the editing within the scene was, but how disconnected it was from everything else. I’m about as far from a professional editor as it is possible to be, but I’m glad my instincts were not wrong!
@Johnsilver30004 жыл бұрын
Something I just noticed: In the scene where they added the extra dialogue with the girl to explain she didn't make the snowman, they used the exact same footage of Harry twice. First time it was just slightly zoomed in. Wow.
@lmabacus4044 жыл бұрын
And his reaction to the revelation that the snowman weren't being made by the girl doesn't make any sense, making it even more noticeable that it's repeat footage.
@skeletonwizard7084 жыл бұрын
THE DAY LONG PROPHESIED HAS ARRIVED.
@kosherwhitewine58794 жыл бұрын
Yeah I ain’t liking keep it this way
@iunnostupid57204 жыл бұрын
Oh my god, that shot of Harry seemingly opening a rolling door to get in the cabin still has the car’s mirror from the trailer shot
@PandyBong4 жыл бұрын
Thought the exact same thing! Weird that Dan didn't say that out loud.
@zwickflixproductions43794 жыл бұрын
I mean, are we even sure that those shots are supposed to preserve continuity? I just find it hard to believe that, no matter how much of a bind they were in, they would put those together and say “yeah, that works.”
@fauxrowsdower76104 жыл бұрын
“so now I sound like Sly Stallone on quaaludes” god I love val kilmer
@Thantazify2 жыл бұрын
I wanted to like this comment but you had 123 likes and my mind can't deal with messing that up. You get a written like instead :)
@GypsyScot14 жыл бұрын
Me: Okay I'm gonna be mature, I won't laugh about any juvenile jokes about "Harry Hole" Lady in movie: I have a message for Inspector Hole. Me: Hehe 'inspect her hole'.
@Amascut4 жыл бұрын
“The Great Harry Hole” got me really good too.
@bozotheclown11423 жыл бұрын
He is FBI... Female Body Inspector
@vesperfromtheinternet55883 жыл бұрын
INSPECT HER HOLE? I HARDLY KNOW HER
@demian5631 Жыл бұрын
@@bozotheclown1142 Or a Federal Boob Inspector. Equal opportunity and all.
@paulmahoney7619 Жыл бұрын
I hardly even know 'er!
@kal.e.45564 жыл бұрын
"every time I watch it" Dude, why are you doing this to yourself?
@lizzard34344 жыл бұрын
It’s for the greater good.
@wadespencer36234 жыл бұрын
For us. *sniffle* For us, man.
@Bewareofthewolves4 жыл бұрын
“The seventh time...”
@Electroporcupine4 жыл бұрын
Morbid fascination
@RoamingAdhocrat4 жыл бұрын
@@lizzard3434 The Greater Good.
@Lilli.Fichtner4 жыл бұрын
„Can I keep this?“ „No“ Literally 5 seconds pass „Can I keep this?“ „Sure“ Guess the writer wasn‘t in the mood to write any sort of scene
@kategrant27284 жыл бұрын
It's like austin powers, except you only need to ask him twice, instead of three times.
@babysatire65784 жыл бұрын
It's like Skyrim or fallout, you fail to persuade so you quick load right before so you ask again and it works.
@kingofpointless4 жыл бұрын
This'll be what movies are like when AI starts making all our art for us.
@selty4 жыл бұрын
I was shocked they actually filmed that as is. Those actors looked absolutely defeated with that dialogue
@thepopulargirl17844 жыл бұрын
It's like he forgot the line and said no, and then the other actor just did the line over again to let him get it right, but they forgot to remove the first take when they were editing the final cut.
@milessolomon48644 жыл бұрын
"Harry Hole" isn't the hero we need. He's the one we deserve.
@LynnHermione4 жыл бұрын
He has Fassbender's face so he's probably MORE than we deserve
@Paralellex4 жыл бұрын
Kinda disappointed this entire review wasn't shot from the perspective of the Folding Ideas puppet as he's listening to you talk.
@beckyginger34324 жыл бұрын
That would have been amazing! So perfect
@emmy85263 жыл бұрын
Through a window
@aud75933 жыл бұрын
@@emmy8526 and slowly panning the entire time
@DonLasagna4 жыл бұрын
As someone who knows nothing of cinematography and editing beyond what it takes to make shitty videos, these types of talks are super fascinating to me, good work
@newflesh6664 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I'm in the same boat as you
@alexradice81634 жыл бұрын
Your comment as a nobody sure means a lot to someone with a lot of subscribers :) he definitely read your comment :)
@DonLasagna4 жыл бұрын
@@alexradice8163 aw thanks
@bandidocavalier4 жыл бұрын
@@alexradice8163 huh???????? idk if you are being passive agressive or youre just genuinely rude by lack of touch but why would you reply this to someone for literally no reason
@doctorwholover10123 жыл бұрын
Same, im just sitting here like " I like your funny words magic man!" 😂
@Faith018414 ай бұрын
"A sad, evil, snowman! BWAHHHH!!" pops up in my head every now and then and STILL makes me cackle. thank you.
@darkingsrock4 жыл бұрын
the thing that kills me about kilmer is that . . . detectives get throat cancer too? if you're going to cast him, then just give the character the same backstory and let him talk at the pace that works for him. it doesn't seem that complicated, except for ableism and everything
@timothymclean2 жыл бұрын
I mean, yes, the things you say are true. But also, this is a movie, the audience needs to be able to understand what the character is saying, so I can see why they'd want to touch up the audio at least a little.
@joshyoung1440 Жыл бұрын
As a disabled person, I get it, but also, no, that doesn't work for making a movie for non-ableist reasons and to pretend not to understand that (which I'm not... necessarily saying you're doing) is disingenuous.
@joshyoung1440 Жыл бұрын
@Pink Dewdrops ...okay I'm confused... you do realize that making him eke out any kind of vocal performance _is_ overexertion, right (ETA: I majored in music ed, vocal emphasis. I can _professionally_ guarantee you that yes, it is overexertion for him to speak at all.)? (ETA: yes, it seems obvious in hindsight that that is what you were saying lol) The easiest thing is to just let him lipsync. I'm not even sure why we're assuming this was a directorial decision. They could have just... not hired Val Kilmer. I'm not saying he asked for the VOs, but it would be very silly to assume he wouldn't want that and fight on his behalf when it's perfectly possible that he chose it. Don't limit the choices of disabled people to what _you_ think is appropriate (this is still aimed at the OP lol, sorry). Like why would he want to talk in the first place? I'm not sure if that's what you meant, the thesis of your comment was unclear to me haha
@maddieb.4282 Жыл бұрын
@@joshyoung1440why are you so mad? They were simply suggesting an alternative that would have openly portrayed someone disabled on the big screen. You’re acting like you personally know Val’s energy levels and are like, offended on his behalf?! Just because he’s disabled doesn’t mean he doesn’t want his voice to be heard dude! And just because he’s disabled doesn’t mean he doesn’t want to work hard! And saying that maybe the studio could have made the decision instead of his own preferences isn’t saying he’s pathetic or unable to advocate for himself or anything like that- you’re reading a lot of tone into their comment. The original commenter wasn’t trying to work Val Kilmer to death or personally advocating for him to overexert himself?!? Like your reaction is so over the top. And I’m disabled and neurodivergent so I do have something to say in this conversation, since I feel like you’re the kind of person to ask for my credentials 🙄 lol
@ekki1993 Жыл бұрын
To be honest, it sounds like it was recent to the performance of the movie, so he may not have it figured out himself and asked for it to be done like it was. There may have been ableism but it's pretty condescending to assume that it was the case as if there couldn't have been any other explanation. Val Kilmer is a VERY famous actor that's very much capable of making that decision for himself and there's plenty of other reasons why it could have been chosen to be done like that, as was said in other comments.
@tracyh57514 жыл бұрын
The use of shots through dirty windows is a metaphor for the audience's relationship to understanding the film. This is why it's needed pervasively, because the audience never knows what the heck is going on.
@thehorriblebright4 жыл бұрын
Fun fact, or possible fact, if I'm not mistaken: The concert they go to is Slipknot in the book.
@angusmcanus9144 жыл бұрын
I think in the book Oleg also calls the band Slayer kinda lame lmao
@thehorriblebright4 жыл бұрын
@@angusmcanus914 Yeah they talk about Slayer, but I think the concert is Slipknot.
@chrisheimva48574 жыл бұрын
That is correct. I don't know what the fuck that concert was in the movie. Haha!! Out of all the changes, that one was one of the more bothersome ones. I liked how in the book Henry has a solid relationship with Oleg while in the movie, it's the typical "Dad is out of touch with his kid and does not know how to take care of them" cliche.
@PsychadelicoDuck4 жыл бұрын
The Man Who Can Climb Anything, himself?
@rasmusdegn96904 жыл бұрын
The band who can climb anything.
@Greeklings4 жыл бұрын
A film editing class's final project could be just trying to make a coherent film out of The Snowman by re-editing it an maybe adding some stock footage or title cards as placeholders. This is a film that needs to be studied by all film students. It's the perfect lesson of what not to do.
@penname84414 жыл бұрын
"On the seventh watch thru " You are braver than us for suffering thru the maze again and again
@PointsofData4 жыл бұрын
The number blindsided me. Then I was blindsided from the other side by a fairly important fact being whispered in one sentence one time.
@riley83854 жыл бұрын
Unironically braver than the troops.
@asimplecabbage66944 жыл бұрын
In terms of cinematic language, the Snowman is wingding
@Spookybluelights4 жыл бұрын
"On my seventh viewi-" *W H A T?*
@LucyLioness1004 жыл бұрын
It was barely worth 1 viewing. I got bored so quickly I nearly quit, but forced myself to just keep watching. I can’t imagine how much the actors had to have hated sitting through it in the premiere or dailies
@Ocrilat4 жыл бұрын
@@LucyLioness100 There are people in the world who drink their own piss. This is just a bit worse.
@timothymclean3 жыл бұрын
What, do you think Dan sits down in front of a movie once with a notebook in hand to ding every little "plot hole" he notices? Even a literal film professional like him has to watch a movie multiple times to produce this kind of analysis.
@susanhillwig57844 жыл бұрын
You did a great job proving your point about ADR: I was looking down at my desk and writing a note when you switched from "live" to "dubbed", and I immediately looked up at the computer screen because the change in sound quality was so obvious.
@seangentry29434 жыл бұрын
It’s like the DP of the Snowman saw the Every Frame a Painting video that called out the excessive, unmotivated slider shots in The Avengers and said “oh you ain’t seen *nothing* yet”
@davidmatlock31494 жыл бұрын
People look at me and they see a happy, smiling snowman :) If they really knew me, they’d see I’m really a sad, frowny snowman :(
@applebonker1413 жыл бұрын
Inside everyone, there are two snowmen
@pennifold3 жыл бұрын
BWHAAAAOO
@timothymcqueen34088 ай бұрын
This is such a comfort video for me. I’ve seriously watched this about two dozen times.
@1080TJ4 жыл бұрын
You know a film is doomed when an editor like Thelma Schoonmaker can't save it.
@skateordie0024 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for someone to mention her. It blows my mind :/
@fastbulbous94004 жыл бұрын
WHAT THE F*CKING F*CK I had no idea. How could Thelma Schoonmaker have worked on this mess ????? For anyone not knowing she is Martin Scorsese's editor and basically his left brain.
@sharkofjoy4 жыл бұрын
The KZbin artifacts on my phone make it appear that there is a large, moving white circle looming over his right shoulder, like a malevolent, faceless, decapitated snowman.
@thefischdeo4 жыл бұрын
BWAAH
@WinterSteele4 жыл бұрын
"The Snowman" is a guilty pleasure for me. It's pieced together so bafflingly, and features such bizarre filmmaking choices, I can't help but be fascinated. For example, there's a scene where the camera deliberately shows us that one of the murder suspects (the doctor who's involved in sex trafficking) has painted toenails. What relevance does this have to the plot? What is it meant to say about the character? Absolutely nothing. It's just there for the sake of being weird. The whole movie is like that-- littered with random WTF moments, to the point of being comically absurd.
@PandyBong4 жыл бұрын
That must have been something cut, but even then, it's sooo cheap. Oh, he has painted toe-nalis - dam, dam DAAAAM!
@Daedalussi3 ай бұрын
and what was with those glowing pins at the parties?? drove me crazy
@sockatume4 жыл бұрын
“Pretty close!” *waves hands* “Can ya blame me?!” - This feels like an accurate re-enactment of the editor presenting the finished cut.
@applesmcg31274 жыл бұрын
There are like so many other issues here that you missed. The biggest problem for me is the conceptual choice to have the opening scene where it is at all. The scene clearly operates as a backstory for the young boy who loses his mother. So it stands to reason that the mystery the filmmakers intended was to give the audience the question: Who is this young boy?... But instead, it ends with the scene ending and going straight to the introduction of Harry Hole, where the *first* shot we're introduced to is a bottle of alcohol, implying alcoholism, implying some sort of trauma or "dark backstory". Linking those scenes back-to-back creates the ambiguous idea that the boy *might* be Harry and we're learning about his tragedy as a kid. Because the movie doesn't clarify this early on, I spent the first 10 minutes not being engaged by the mystery of the identity of this kid, but instead being confused by Harry's character and trying to work out the kinks of the film. Actually this is why I think you're right about an earlier more elaborate title sequence being scrapped: I think they added an elongated moment of black and redid a short credits sequence to try to separate the two shots(The Wide Mountain Range Shot and the Shot of Harry's hand holding the alcohol) as far away as possible to mitigate that idea that this might be a backstory that explains Harry. Anyway, I love that the Snowman exists. It's such weird mess of a film. It *almost* gets away with being this completely broken movie that audiences sort of just dismiss as a dull and lifeless noir-story, but all the little details reveal a much more intricate failure of a production.
@RykerJones284 жыл бұрын
I came to the conclusion that the boy in the opening scene was Harry because that's what the editing told me. I'm glad someone else pointed this out.
@Juanouo4 жыл бұрын
Damn, didn't watch the film and from this video I assumed exactly what you pointed the editing made you think
@locuas56014 жыл бұрын
Not helped by the fact that this reading is supported by his maybe biological son subplot making it look like part of his conflict is the fear that he will do the same as his abusive father and........ and we just made a better movie didn't we?
@GarfieldiusPrime4 жыл бұрын
@@locuas5601 Yes. You did.
@GamerLeFay2 жыл бұрын
It literally took me close to a dozen viewings of this film to understand what the point of the cold open was and I only just understood that it's the killer's backstory as I was watching it now...
@RLanceHunter4 жыл бұрын
"Aboot" is often the go-to signifier of a Canadian accent, but Dan's videos make a strong case for using the hard-e pronunciation of words like "bEEn".
@waltermays55514 жыл бұрын
"Bohrrow" as well
@mastermarkus53073 жыл бұрын
@Amber T OH, do Americans say it like "bin"? Every once in a while I see Americans point out a Canadian accent and it takes me a moment to be like "But that's just how we say that word" because a lot of "standard" U.S. American accents are close enough to many Canadian ones that I don't notice the differences most of the time.
@ityabean3 жыл бұрын
Do you also hear him make "both" sound a little like "bolth"?
@SiraSpirit3 жыл бұрын
It’s the “burry” for me
@SongbirdAlom3 жыл бұрын
@@mastermarkus5307 yep. We say it like “bin.” Phonetically “bean” makes more sense tho.
@RiverGriffith20164 жыл бұрын
I lived in Norway for a year, and Jo Nesbø became like a meme to myself and my friends because every time we went to the supermarket, we'd see his book called "Kniv," which literally translates to "Knife," and I don't know why but that cracked me up every time.
@ShinoSarna4 жыл бұрын
This is sad because Jo Nesbo is a really good writer, and now I doubt we will ever see another adaptation - Redbreast would be perfect fit for a movie, and socially relevant as it's about neo-nazi violence.
@RetepAdam4 жыл бұрын
This movie is honestly an all-timer in terms of squandered potential.
@lizardqueen2735 ай бұрын
I know this comment is 4 years old, but if you haven't heard, Nesbø himself is adapting The Devil's Star as a Netflix series.
@Evnyofdeath3 жыл бұрын
This is like the 4th or 5th time I've watched this video. I keep coming back to it because I have the distinct and crystal clear memory of having it on in the background while doing errands around the house for my aunt. Now that she's gone it just feels...almost like I'm running errands for her again.
@rainydayinsomnia4 жыл бұрын
love how dan calls looking at the trailers "forensics" cause this video is like an autopsy of the film 🤣
@jrkoenig723 жыл бұрын
Clicked on this video expecting a love letter to the delightful animated "The Snowman" that aired on HBO when I was a kid. Editing being the primary communication in that cartoon since there is no dialog. Was not expecting.... this.
@lagg1e2 жыл бұрын
This video is a better crime thriller of gathering the clue and constructing a plausible timeline of events that explain the horrific murder and motivation of the culprit than the snowman. The only scene missing is the producer breaking down crying and confessing the last detail of the botched editing before being hauled to jail.
@woodyroberts57014 жыл бұрын
I went to school with the guy that played Oleg and yes I did spend the whole video watching for the obligatory moment I could go 'I know that guy omg' He's really nice btw :P
@elvellarambles91514 жыл бұрын
Aw, good for him! Hope he’s well :)
@anuel37804 жыл бұрын
23:18 WHAT THE HELL I AM ON THE GROUND IN TEARS WHAT WAS THAT CUT
@TheStoenk4 жыл бұрын
That singer is saying what we're all thinking
@destinyvoltaire4 жыл бұрын
Wait is that in the movie?! I thought it was a joke!
@bezahltersystemtroll50554 жыл бұрын
:DDD
@gddesigner4 жыл бұрын
I honestly thought that was Dan dubbing over the shot for humor... but no, it’s even more glorious than that. It’s real.
@IsaacMayerCreativeWorks4 жыл бұрын
Someone at work got me the tickets *smash cut to* AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
@zelamorre11264 жыл бұрын
The video: Serious thoughts about editing. Me, apparently a 12-year-old: "Hehe! Hairy Hole!"
@mads_in_zero4 жыл бұрын
Apparently Jo Nesbø picked the name to sound awkward in English on purpose, because as mentioned, they're black comedies.
@666lupine6664 жыл бұрын
"Beavis, this movie is about a guy named Hairy Hole." "Yeah? Yeah!"
@Fredomato4 жыл бұрын
His name is sort of a running joke in the books, especially in the first two, and whenever he gets smashed and wakes up in foreign countries.
@RiverOfWetness4684 жыл бұрын
To be fair, the video is like that too.
@anikagrace75304 жыл бұрын
The whole movie I thought that Harry was the one who’s mother had died in the car, so the whole time I was trying to figure out what that contributed to the plot and his behaviour. I was basically slightly confused the entire movie. Do y’all know if that was a deliberate mislead or was it just more weird editing? Like when they went from the flashback straight to Harry’s hand I was like okay this is the same person. I assume that was deliberate but it was also a really annoying choice because it made the plot not make sense in a weird way VS. A good mystery way. Did anyone else feel similarly?
@Ocrilat4 жыл бұрын
You were confused by a plot point that was accidentally there due to the incompetence of Tomas Alfredson, which is even funnier since it's more or less the only plot point in the film.
@Lesseroldertales4 жыл бұрын
It may have been an attempt to mislead in a competently done movie. But the movie is so incomplete we will probably never know.
@marias-i33334 жыл бұрын
I haven't seen the movie but the meaning I got from the clips is that the child is Harry and the prologue is the traumatic event/indicative of a difficult childhood that contributed to his alcoholism However, his alcoholism doesn't seem to have much to do with the plot, does he ever struggle to solve the case because he's drunk/hungover/mistrusted due to his excessive drinking?
@Ocrilat4 жыл бұрын
@@marias-i3333 Well, the child in the prologue wasn't Harry anyway, the child was the killer. It's not your fault you got confused there...a lot of people did, including me, at first.
@rafmeinster4 жыл бұрын
@@Ocrilat Is it Tomas's fault or the studio's?
@TheSongwritingCat4 жыл бұрын
I know the killer is the villain and all, but still, that motivation and reason for selecting victims is a GIANT woof.
@troodon10962 жыл бұрын
If motivations for serial killers in stories like this made sense, it wouldn't be a mystery because it would be too obvious.
@MissBuyNLarge2 жыл бұрын
and today's lesson in evocative phrasing: "decapitated via shotgun" has to be one of the most unassumingly gruesome phrases I've ever heard
@TobiasFangorIsntCis4 жыл бұрын
The double snowman just made me laugh I just... It looks like two siblings disagreed on what face to give it, how would that EVER be scary
@robofistsrevenge32884 жыл бұрын
The Invisible Man: *releases to critical acclaim* Trailer for upcoming Candyman: *causes horror fans to shout with glee and excitement* Dan: No guys, I REALLY don't think you've fully grasped how terrible The Snowman is yet.
@kevinw7124 жыл бұрын
oh my god I first watched this movie almost a couple years ago now, and went in knowing nothing about any of these production problems, so it was such a mindfuck. Including knowing nothing about Val Kilmer's illness, in the moment I was so baffled why I was hearing a voice that was very obviously NOT Val Kilmer supposedly coming out of his mouth.
@Lincoln_Bio3 жыл бұрын
I've dabbled enough in filmmaking that I actually lol'd at the absolute insanity of trying to shoot a whole ass feature film in the fucking snow on a 30 day schedule, I'm 2 minutes in and I can already see where this is going haha
@GroundThing4 жыл бұрын
Honestly, whenever I watch something that goes deep into editing or other such filmmaking topics that are in the vein of "you only notice it if something goes wrong" I'm honestly baffled that any movies can get made at all.
@dwittingslow4 жыл бұрын
I've got a theory as to their colour grade issues. Often a DP will make a LUT to be used as a guide before production begins, but this was probably skipped during preproduction due to time constraints. As a result, the proxies they generated for the edit probably were also in log. There's a pretty consistent sentiment from cinematographers that you don't provide a log image for the edit as the grade will suffer from the director's bias towards the log image that they've been staring at for hundreds of hours. The production company that cut the trailer was probably even given the footage without a LUT / grade guidelines, thus creating the disparity in grade between trailer and release.
@SpawnRevenge922 жыл бұрын
To me, what makes the shot at 29:46 hilarious is not the snowman's face, but its tiny little arms. It looks as if it's conducting the music, lol
@LaNoLaCola4 жыл бұрын
A new Folding Ideas Video Essay? It's been 84 years...
@Electroporcupine4 жыл бұрын
It's only been two months. But then again, the months are getting longer in this hell timeline.
@MiSambra3 жыл бұрын
Michael Fassbender really needs to fire his agent. He is a phenomenal actor and it's a shame he has been wasted in so many awful films in recent years.
@georgedeboo90465 күн бұрын
Neat pun
@sugarsuture4 жыл бұрын
im a simple man.. i see a new "the art of editing" video, i click as fast as my body will let me
@flametitan1004 жыл бұрын
That's an interesting name, or at least the kanji in it are (being that it's cat pot or cat pan.) At least googling it gives good images.
@sugarsuture4 жыл бұрын
@@flametitan100 thank you! nekonabe / Cat Pot is really just that, pictures of cats in pots/pans/bowls. the reason i chose it is because of one of my favorite denpa / ddr songs at the moment ^__^ kzbin.info/www/bejne/g6a8ipZ4i9Gpfpo
@flametitan1004 жыл бұрын
@@sugarsuture Cool, cool! I mostly just noticed it as I'm studying Japanese and recognized at least the 猫 part of it :D
@sugarsuture4 жыл бұрын
@@flametitan100 thats so cool!! ive been studying it on and off myself :D always cool to recognize a word in the wild
@kelsanggyudzhin23404 жыл бұрын
"Details that clash with comprehensibility" is probably my new favorite euphemism.
@benmatthews31904 жыл бұрын
When you first talked about this movie and it's terrible filmmaking all the way back, I secretly hoped you'd make one of these. Thank you for making these, because as an amateur filmmaker, these are absolutely fascinating to watch.
@coolnathan2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! The trailer was lodged in my head for years, owing I’m sure to the fantastic song choice (Massive Attack - Voodoo in my Blood). When I finally got around to watching the film I was stunned. The killer didn’t leave cryptic messages! That was the only thing I took away from the marketing and they just made it up! Going back and watching the trailer after the film made me even more furious that I’d been lied to. Your video touched every frustration I had with the film and I’m glad to have someone share my experience. To anyone who hasn’t seen The Snowman (2017): don’t waste your time, watch this video twice instead
@heidiknabe9669 Жыл бұрын
You just made me realize I’ve not heard Massive Attack lately and I’ll be rectifying that as soon as I finish the video (for like the fourth time)!
@andeve34 жыл бұрын
The fact that some names in the film (e.g. Aasen, Dahl) are NOT pronounced in an anglicised way, makes me suspect that someone looked at the name Harry Hole and recognised the enormous B movie potential in lines like "Ah, the great Harry Hole", and that pronouncing it correctly ("hoo-leh") would be a waste :v
@KeyLimeadeish4 жыл бұрын
His name seems like they randomly kept one of the black comedy elements from the novel for the hell of it
@Ocrilat4 жыл бұрын
@@KeyLimeadeish Or set up a joke and forget to put in the punchline.
@PandyBong4 жыл бұрын
I think this is more incompetence in the casting of swedish, english and american actors, directed by a swedish director but controlled by an english producer - long story short, it's a complete mess.
@sydssolanumsamsys2 жыл бұрын
you have to be right. in no world was any english speaking person going to accidentally publish a movie starring inspector harry hole
@tantryl4 жыл бұрын
24:51 "The call came in two minutes ago. The husband asked specifically to inspect her hole."
@alvinfox90714 жыл бұрын
Dropping everything to watch this right now before Universal takes it down.
@SnowCat-nu7gj4 жыл бұрын
In all honesty for British viewers “Harry Hill” would be a LOT more jarring as that is the name of an absurdest family friendly British comedian which would have the same tonal vibes as that snowman with the sad face
@DaughterOfFrankenste4 жыл бұрын
I both cannot possibly give credit to the idea that a decision of such gravity was made with the U.K. audience in mind, and yet can not imagine any better reason for why the direct translation wasn't chosen.
@soupalex4 жыл бұрын
"which is better, 'mister police' or a crap drawing of a snowman? there's only one way to find out: FIIIGHT!!!"
@mastermarkus53074 жыл бұрын
I am kind of baffled by that because "Harry Hill" is such a generic-sounding name. It's not like Noel Edmonds.
@Mecharnie_Dobbs4 жыл бұрын
Working Title, is a British company but so many other nationalities worked on this. Couldn't they find a name that didn't sound funny in any country? Harry House? Harry Hall? Harry Hale? Harry Hope?
@Lawnie4 жыл бұрын
@@soupalex I have been hunting for a FIIIIIGHT Harry Hill joke and you have provided us with one. Bless you.
@serapekkala82384 жыл бұрын
You know, there’s at least a very simple fix for the flashback framing problem. Give the framing moments to Katrine. Right? It’s her dad, she was a kid/teen when he passed away. Presumably she would know enough about Rafto and the things he was doing before he died to trigger the flashbacks when SHE sees the files on Laila Aasen. You could even add in a bit of dialogue where kid Katrine calls him on the phone to talk to him while he’s working, to add another link back to her perspective. It adds depth to her character and allows us to have a more grounded parallel subplot.
@LexyconDevil4 жыл бұрын
I mean yes, very weird the detective lady texts his son: but also it bothers me a lot that it's like "oh time to leave" and then Harry's like "oh well leave it to the morning" once they've dropped off his son. What a mess, she texts a person she doesn't know, they didn't have to leave the concert, and he had no time to pick up his sleeping pills.
@jackalobowaitthisnameistaken Жыл бұрын
Maybe he went to the concert to pick up his meds?
@TheInfiniteAmo Жыл бұрын
>dubs over his voice to demonstrate ADR problems >gives a really good dub read because he's used to presentation and talking into the void >unintentionally makes cleaner ADR than many professional films
@TheStanishStudios4 жыл бұрын
“Can I keep this?” ‘No’ “Can I keep this?” ‘Okay sure’
@Chimera-man-man4 жыл бұрын
I thought he said 'No' because someone was in earshot of their conversation at first but then agreed when they left and I was like ah clever. Instead the opposite happens and the woman in the background is closer to them when he agrees. Now i just think that this is just a fun game they play with each other when one of them asks the other to make a cup of tea or something and its been taken to extremes.
@troodon10962 жыл бұрын
Honestly this reminds me of Kung Pow: Enter the Fist, where it was intentionally a joke: "There's no way we can help you now." "I urge you to reconsider." "Mm, OK."
@hannesjakobsson7654 жыл бұрын
I didn't think you'd actully make this, but boy am I glad to see it
@JohannesWiberg4 жыл бұрын
"I need the words I'm saying to make sense" - Dan Olson, 2020
@demh78234 жыл бұрын
Two Oscar-winning editors worked on "The Snowman". Think about that.
@troodon10962 жыл бұрын
Even Babe Ruth missed 65.8% of the pitches he swung at.
@cheezemonkeyeater4 жыл бұрын
I just realized something watching this again: if they'd followed up on the red herring, it would have undermined the plot. The girl set up a camera in his room. That means the camera would have seen the killer walk in, or at least recorded the sound of the fight. It would have clearly given them something to point them to the real killer. So, since they don't want to reveal the killer yet, they just never touch on that again.
@EntertainmentExpertz4 жыл бұрын
Perhaps that whole ping ponging of the shots in that early scene could’ve worked if they were throwing arguments at each other I think. Like Harry has a point, the other guy does too. Then once, say Harry, loses ground in the argument, his shot now moves the same way as the previous shot, almost like the camera is mimicking him missing the ball in Ping Pong and losing the argument/metaphorical game. I feel like that would’ve been an extraordinary use of cinematography
@rushabhbhakta71814 жыл бұрын
It’s literally insane that Dan doesn’t have more than 300kish subscribers - his content is so well done.
@troodon10962 жыл бұрын
Well he has over 600k now...
@rushabhbhakta71812 жыл бұрын
@@troodon1096 a good start but the man deserves even more IMO.
@OfficialROZWBRAZEL Жыл бұрын
@@rushabhbhakta7181 Maybe 1M some day. Just not this year either
@rushabhbhakta7181 Жыл бұрын
@@OfficialROZWBRAZEL inshallah
@JeanneNey994 жыл бұрын
God, the ending of this video with the little snow man note is so great
@leighblack79444 жыл бұрын
I was so angry at this movie because I was really hooked by the trailer and I love Michael Fassbender. It was such an incoherent mess. I did not see the boyfriend as the killer at all and I am usually pretty good at picking up signals. It really felt like I had only seen half the movie. There were so many things that they could have done to fix certain elements. Using Val Kilmer's real voice would have helped. They could have had a throwaway line about him struggling because of throat cancer or because of his drinking causing throat damage. He could have had a journal where he recorded all his thoughts and conversations on the investigation. That could have been used to actually see Val Kilmer's character with Harry reading his entries and trying to piece together what he knew.
@emperorleroy67474 жыл бұрын
The Snowman? I haven't heard that name in a long time...