"The Art of Intelligence" Henry A. Crumpton

[@rogueperfumer5095]

Thank you for all that you do! Big hugs! :)

[@MrDougMagill]

That was outstanding. I really appreciated his Massoud story at the end.

[@TheEmpressPalpatine]

That was very interesting. I am in the middle of reading his book. He writes very well. He would make a good novelist. I'd like to see him try his hand at a spy thriller fiction work. He could be the next Ian Fleming. The best spy novels are written by real spies. His book is fascinating because it goes into real detail about the day to day life of a spy. If you want to know what they really do, read this book.

[@patton1909]

It was a great book and I loved it.

[@debrakirkley4590]

I have this book,but you know how life is busy, busy and then other things to do. I'm going on a road trip and would love to have the audio of the book. Do you know of any, besides having to pay for a service that I don't use enough to do so with? Thank you

[@axelliljenstroemnilsson2453]

@@debrakirkley4590 Hi, when you write "busy" I understand it as that you don't read too much as this is also how I reason as a "not too much reading" kind of guy. However this book is written with a very friendly/down to earth style, as it is exciting as well I highly recommend it to give it a good try to read instead. It will take you a maxium of two weeks, promise.

[@axelliljenstroemnilsson2453]

@@debrakirkley4590 I might however be completey wrong with how I interpret your sentence, please excuse me if this is the case.

[@debrakirkley4590]

@@axelliljenstroemnilsson2453 No problem, Axel. When I wrote that comment I was preparing for a trip out of state again as usual "super busy"!! I read a lot, not as much as in the past, being a new grandmother and all, I need to find the time, i do find it really relaxing. Have a good night and thanks for the insight.

[@garfieldfarkle]

Hank Crumpton is the real deal, a living legend

[@quantumfineartsandfossils2152]

28:00 "liberal policy, ..liberal institutions that are inclusive.., US power used to inform and strengthen liberal fault, values, institutions, im all for that" so well said

[@MrDougMagill]

I also liked his comment that it's up to the people to decide the nation's stance on Enhanced Interrogation Techniques. Yes, government officials are the policy makers, but it's the people that give the policy makers the power. Sometimes we (the people and policy makers as well) lose sight that government officials are supposed to be representatives of the people.

[@garfieldfarkle]

Indeed. Unfortunately, the American people are poorly informed and this needs to be corrected. There are two main approaches to the subject. The first is the expedient one in terms of effectiveness. The experts on the subject matter are our professional military, law enforcement and intelligence service interrogators, but they are seldom heard from. Other experts to heed are the most successful interrogators in history from whom we also learn which approaches work the best. In my own research, I found over 60 such interrogators who commented on what works and they are unanimous as to the methods that achieve the greatest success, and these are humane ones. The American people need to know of the spectacular successes gained by interrogators like USMC interrogator "Pappy" Moran in World War II. The volume and quality of the intelligence obtained by humane approaches through history dwarfs that gained through abuse or torture of prisoners. The second approach is the principled one. The American people are uninformed of the fact that one of the foundational building blocks this country was built upon was the humane treatment of prisoners, despite what the enemy did during our Revolution, when the enemy army marched up and down our land, presenting a greater threat than we have faced since. The Redcoats used sleep deprivation, diet manipulation, beatings, painful confinement and waterboarding of Americans they took prisoner, but our Founding Fathers were resolute in not imitating savagery. George Washington, John Adams and the Continental Congress resolved to not just win the war, but to win according to the moral standards they held, which they refused to compromise on. These standards are among the reasons this nation is exceptional and to abandon them is to sell our soul in pursuit of satisfying our darker impulses while practicing methods guaranteed to fail.

[@narayankumar6063]

Wonder how he is on youtube!!

[@MobileToA]

32:43 introducing... iTunes algorithm 😂 Sup guys

[@tunesmithdainfinitytunegat1691]

I’m watching this again why does the world make you feel so small sometimes so much like you can’t fit in and yet gives you people too inspire you like O and Crumpton. Cherish opportunities and take chances don’t let the Feelings of being a lowlife take away your attribute to the nation and the world. I fight with a inner world I can’t pin down in a ground for my feet but I will still Have faith because of all of THIS THAT HAPPENS JUST TO MAKE SHORE I CAN BE HOMELESS AND ONEDAY ENJOY A PLACE SOMEBODY ELSE HAS THEN ONE DAY HAVING MY OWN AND EVEN KIDS I CAN Trainee

[@tunesmithdainfinitytunegat1691]

I dont know i just listened to Jordan’s podcast so did not take all but did not want to be a bad guy because it’s a thing to be

[@lobdillj]

Re torture--At 54:36 Mr. Crumpton poses a hypothetical question to a questioner who asked about the morality of torture. His prelude to the question was, " "This is not as theoretical as you might think. What if an Al Qaeda operative was coming to your neighborhood...to your community...and had both the intention and the capability of killing thousands, including your family, and there was another Al Qaeda operative who had been apprehended on the other side of the world, and he had knowledge of this...he had sufficient knowledge where that attack could be prevented. What if enhanced interrogation techniques were the only way to obtain that information and stop that attack?” The question he poses is: Under that situation would you approve the torture? The assumptions he makes in setting up the question are fantasy. None of it is knowable. And he assumes that torture works where no other technique will. Where does that come from? And how does anyone know what the captive knows? And if they do know, why not just stop the attack instead of torturing the man until he says what they already know he knows? I give Mr. Crumpton an F on that example.

[@trigglypuffthesocialjustic7656]

Well don't they have years of research on interrogation techniques?

[@leightonki6726]

Weak will.

[@garfieldfarkle]

Crumpton asks the question and we should not shrink from it. see my reply, above, to Doug Magill. He is careful to not answer the question, but to suggest the decision must be an informed one while stating he is not sufficiently informed. Rather than proceed from political or other bias, we should determine what principles are at stake and what is most efficient. The principles at stake were established during our revolution by Washington, John Adams and the Continental Congress. To discover what are the most effecive approaches, we study interrogation through history and consult the experts on the subject matter - credentialed professional, career, military, intelligence and law enforcement interrogators. Then we discover the answer to his hypothetical - get a skilled interrogator who employs humane approaches because they achieve the fastest, most reliable results. Think about it - torture and abuse of a prisoner provides an overwhelming incentive to mislead us. At the same time, when we need the prisoner to quickly recall precise details, we are clouding the minds, inhibiting the recall and ability to focus on detail by inducing confusion, pain, and fear; while erasing the walls between imagination and fact. Such interrogations produce fragments of what you want given begrudgingly and mixed with large amounts of fiction as the prisoner tries to give you what he thinks you want to hear in order to make the torture or abuse stop. Khalid Sheikh Mohammed fought us during his waterboarding by inventing terror plots around the globe that consumed thousands of man-hours to track down, distracting and taking our forces off the battlefield to send them on wild goose chases. Historically, highly skilled interrogators using humane methods obtained far greater volumes of far more accurate, actionable intelligence more quickly from willing prisoners.

[@TheBest-ff8zz]

This provides an intersiting insight regarding the correlation between the pentagon's budget and 9/11.

[@tunesmithdainfinitytunegat1691]

Something inside is like just stay in just wait till Tomorrow I had the opportunity of a life time sort of but imagine if I was as cool as you...I will go out side tomorrow I will be up and out not just running but living I hope

[@janiss5634]

Imagine living a life like he did..imagine having conversations and negotiations with afghan warlords

[@tunesmithdainfinitytunegat1691]

Imagine if we could put are homeless classes in other lands as Helpers and construction workers or anything but prison

[@ToddiusMaximus]

Don’t type negative reviews...... HANK will know!! Jk. You da man Hank.

[@midnighttutor]

Interesting information. Sounds like Gen Tommy Franks really screwed up.

[@murdaone261]

...UNITED STATES CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE AGENCY DIRECTOR LAMONTE M. WARD WITH MASON PERRY JOHNSON

[@sunnywakefield9254]

I LOVE HANK !!!!

[@tunesmithdainfinitytunegat1691]

In a perfect world

[@prophecy5886]

Unfortunately this is not a perfect world and it is controlled by less than favourable people. Human beings will always shun those that are different from themselves no matter how enlightened we become. There will always be those stragglers.

[@frilansspion]

oh yes, those wonderful afghan allies...

[@kimberlyrlang]

I have read the book and find the negative remarks based on pure bias.

[@tunesmithdainfinitytunegat1691]

It’s cool it’s love for you guys for ever not especially shore why I guess it’s because I think it’s the ultimate sacrifice

[@tunesmithdainfinitytunegat1691]

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