The Art of Smash 4: Expert - Part 3

[@OnlyCommentPoster]

*Timestamps* 0:25 Directional Influence 2:18 Smash DI 2:40 Ledge Trump 5:04 Stale-Move-Negation 6:46 Resets/Jablocks 7:41 Untechable Spin 8:28 Ledge Slip 9:07 Shield (Platform) Drop 9:43 Dash Dance 11:01 Perfect Pivot 11:49 Edge Cancel 12:28 Tomahawk 12:46 Frame Cancel 13:41 Steps to git gud

[@rellik0098]

Sticky this.

[@BeefySmashDoods]

Good stuff! Really looking forward to that "Master" video :) - cFive

[@alexssb5023]

Hey cFive ich finde bei SmashBoards keine tuniere in Östereich, gibt es irgend einen in Österreich überhaupt?

[@lukewenceslao8269]

You got tutorials on all of these things

[@AtlaS_GPP]

hey!!!! :D

[@rafo807]

+Infernio _Playz Schau mal bei Smashlabs vorbei, da gibt's immer wieder Turniere in Österreich. Ende dieses Monats gibt's z.B. eines in Wien. Mit freundlichen Grüßen Alaslayon

[@alexssb5023]

+Alaslayon San danke ich wohne zwar in graz aber ich werde vorbeischauen, danke!

[@primewierdo]

This guy... this guy makes the best goddamn smash videos.

[@silverrain530]

I know

[@silverrain530]

BTW, like your profile picture

[@pktim866]

Ikr

[@kladen3]

I agree, highest quality of any smash channel I've come across

[@chkmte1304]

It's funny cause the video is "How to play Expert" and Cloud's on the thumbnail

[@ToluDude]

Lol

[@bleuemoone8710]

Try playing Cloud at top level, it isn't easy

[@caloFi]

Make this top comment lol

[@sarika3689]

MegaFatcat100 Yeah he is.

[@adlos1270]

+MegaFatcat100 Yeah he is.

[@1uparcade33]

Drinking game: take a shot every time Izaw suggests you watch a BSD video

[@vtxros7293]

xD

[@IzAwSmash]

GG

[@Percevalko]

See you again in hell :D

[@1uparcade33]

+Mr. M (Felipe) 5. So yeah. You'd get pretty drunk. Plus, in a matter of 15 minutes

[@pythonxz]

Who ever says that smash is not full of depth needs to watch these videos. This a simple game to start out on, but that is just the surface.

[@julioarcaiko]

Hey Izaw, some people don't see the value, but as someone who wants to improve the 2nd and 3rd video of the series have been very helpful and I'm sure the 1st one has been pivotal for some beginner. Thanks a lot, you're awesome! I'd like to play you some day

[@LordSpinduh]

"any character can win" come on Izaw, we all know a Ganon isn't going to win a big tournament

[@LordSpinduh]

unless you mean individual games then, yeah depending on skill level any character can win a game

[@Threegale]

megaman almost won evo, sure megaman have potential (and ganon, not really) but would you ever think that will happened?

[@diegocantdrive5031]

+Spin Duh in Japan a link got second at a major

[@IzAwSmash]

+Spin Duh I meant individual games, tournaments are still very unpredictable though

[@LordSpinduh]

+Threegale megaman isn't considered low tier by anyone though lol. a lot of people, especially japan, knew that Mega man was an amazing character and scatt helped show it to the people in the US

[@hipp0crit691]

Fantastic video! I feel inspired and informed. I especially agree with the philosophy that one should pick the character they most prefer playing. Tier lists are an inevitable form of analysis, but they shouldn't hinder player choice in who they play. Good job!

[@TotosDev]

"Stop complaining"

[@samur99]

This entire video series is amazing. I am extremely grateful that you have made these.

[@bench7775]

correct title : "The Art of Smash - Part 3 - Beefy Smash Doods"

[@eugenetibayan3033]

when My Smash Corner doesn't get a shoutout lol

[@D6...]

waiting for how to play:God edition

[@doringo3856]

Warning: God edition is only possible to follow with a 20XX edition gamecube controller and a top tier character.

[@alexssb5023]

+Doringo God edition: Step 1: Pick cloud Step 2: Press down B and profit. Just kidding, it is always funny how people complain about cloud. Lmao

[@doringo3856]

Infernio _Playz I actually can't stand cloud because his players on FG leave every match and are generally really cocky so I can't learn the matchup without finding friends, and his down B forces approach on pretty much everyone which makes it hard to take a second to examine the sitaution.

[@alexssb5023]

+Doringo wanna be friends on wii u i am pretty good competetive cloud

[@alexssb5023]

+Doringo And don't worry I have time to play every day

[@ItohKuni]

This is a must see for anyone wanting to get good at Smash seriously- LOVE the depth and detail of the series bro :) Keep it up. You're awesome!

[@sachitechless]

I swear mid-rank players follow Step 4 more than some top ranking players...

[@froggalexis]

Most complains top players have are pretty solid, and I see mid ranked players complain more lol edit: if you mean play characters you like and not top tiers only, then it makes sense. Top players are top players for a reason, they use a good character, have insane mindgames and know their fundamentals.

[@sachitechless]

USERNAME_69_420 No, like, I have seen ZeRo and other top players complain more about Lucario's Aura recently than a lot of the mid-level players I know. I have a Lucario player in my region and they complain less here than ZeRo. Someone even told me ZeRo yelled about Lucario being bullshit when he lost a game. So...

[@kynlem]

+Rukia Shimazu I think if zero lost a game to s Lucario we would all know about it lol

[@netteybaddoo]

+BananaSniper Day beat zero at ssc

[@babulbi]

the bayonetta drama is a good example of this

[@AngelsandWolves1]

This Hadoken remix is absolutely lit. Nice work IzAw. I've been studying the Master edition over and over but it's nice to revisit these.

[@miki-pf4um]

The funny thing is I do almost all things in expert but not in advanced.

[@MewtwosPie]

Hadn't even heard of some of the things in advanced, but I knew everything in this video

[@Zotalicious]

+MewtwosPie same

[@mccarney4207]

Gregg rulz, ok True

[@MrLee64]

Gregg rulz, ok same

[@JeremyGalloway]

Same!

[@MiloAmoore]

Damn step four got real. Great video as always, keep it up! You're truly an inspiring person and your videos always teach me something I may have overlooked or entirely not known. : )

[@PencilKing21]

Is it bad that I'm studying for a smash tournament more than I'm studying for my finals

[@KarateGirl999]

Nah

[@MrLee64]

Yes

[@Saben.C-Spoon]

Just means your studying what you actually want too

[@pinguhero4311]

No, it is not

[@frostbyteCC]

Time stamps DI=0:27 Smash DI=2:18 Ledge Trump=2:41 Stale-Move-Negation=5:05 Resets=6:47 Untechachable Spin=7:43 Ledge Slip=8:30 Shield Platform Drop=9:08 Dashdance=9:45 Perfect Pivot=11:08 Edge Cancel=11:48 Tomahawk=12:28 Frame Cancel=12:47 Practice=13:40

[@iiedgemasterii2849]

I like how all things you've been teaching so far I already know but I really do like how you explain the techniques and more.

[@GameNut321]

During my time with Smash 4 I've only been using Link, Falcon, Kirby, and Cloud.

[@cullenhutchison6528]

The thing about number 4 is Mewtwo short hop nair footstool double jump cancel disable jump cancel usmash

[@Coffee_dragon16]

these techniques are why I'm still a horrible, predictable, filthy casual

[@Tempura93]

Stale moves resetting? Wow, I never knew that was an actual thing. This helped out a lot, thanks!

[@Vulgun]

Dude, hope you include these things in a possible "Professional" video: 1) Z-Air Drop (do instant ledge grab with Z-Air, press down and jump, it gives you a little more edge-guarding distance) 2) Step Dash. 3) Pivot Forward Smash and Pivot JC Up Smash. 4) Shield Grab (dash being canceled by shield and then inputting grab afterwards). 5) Ledge Drop Wall Jump (instantly wall jumping after letting go of the ledge).

[@hmgambino]

very much needed my man. great work as usual :]

[@bagaboogey7403]

I've been so hyped for the next vid! Keep it up :3

[@namastay8417]

At 1:15 the video illustrates not using down and away as DI for straight vertical launches. Then a few seconds later suggests that if launched "more vertical" to use down and right. I'm assuming "horizontal" was the intended wording here. Might want to fix that to avoid confusion for new players.

[@noelramos4948]

I've been following you were rocking brawl link, good to see your still playing the game and uploading quality content.

[@grantlaren7987]

Damn, I never knew Mario had a footstool combo. Everyone has footstool combos lol

[@chanseyluc6311]

Not Robin

[@MedhaosFEH]

+ChanseySmasher ! Arcthunder/Arcfire->Footstool->Book Drop->Arcthunder/Arcfire -> Followup such as DThrow -> something depending on the moves.

[@オオカミ-c7f]

+ChanseySmasher ! You can get really easy footstools after a Arcthunder when your opponent is near enough and jablock with a book.

[@chanseyluc6311]

+オオカミ Yeah You're right and I tested it and it worked, but It is difficult to know when the tome is going to dissapear. Not very used indeed.

[@オオカミ-c7f]

+ChanseySmasher ! It is pretty situational and I like to go for easier hits after arcthunder but it is an option. I haven't tested it but I think you could do something like arcthunder --> footstool --> book lock --> arcfire --> arcfire.

[@Cannon8X]

Amazing video please keep them coming! I've learned something new in each one! Thank you!

[@otpartikodin4406]

So much videos from Beafy Smash Doods ! Anyway, thanks a lot for what you did, keep like this !

[@xcritic9671]

"Nothing is broken or overpowered" spoken like a true triple-projectile main ;)

[@3rdDayfan777]

This video is basically "Subscribe to Beefy Smash Doods". And I'm ok with this.

[@hueycotton]

how the hell is DI in the expert video lol

[@Your_Bro_Bri]

Which video do you think it should be in?

[@electricspirit3600]

Personally, I think it should be right after teching. In this video, DI is presented as a no-brainer. I think he should have talked about anticipating DI. DI is fairly simple and can quickly improve your gameplay with little effort.

[@doringo3856]

DI should be in basic, every player should know it at least.

[@danydady6851]

im pretty sure the tutorial in brawl talks about di...

[@MrLee64]

Mortus Evil same

[@jadeface2388]

Yooo Amazing job on the vid IzawSmash

[@cpwcomputerplayerwill]

Glad you said to ignore the tier list cuz I main the pink puff balls

[@Gekkingga]

Says nothing is broken (Bayo walks in) AY WHAT CHU SAY

[@BeliosRage]

I'm glad that you mentioned step 4.Someone really had to do it.

[@abel.6945]

Before I even started this video, when I saw "Expert" I stopped playing smash and focused 100% on the video saying, " This is going to get SPICY!"

[@jblen]

now I don't know about you lot but DI fits into the beginner section to me. Its so much easier than stuff like b reversing and also you know when to use it; when you get hit.

[@angolin9352]

DI: The most expert of advanced techniques

[@eonamiella2124]

2 things. I feel like you didn't explain ledge trump fully. There were multiple times in the video where you slid off the stage and immediately grabbed the ledge to ledge trump. But you never explained how to do that. The second thing is about tomahawks. Are they still a viable option for characters with tether grabs? I main Samus, and her grab is reactable, and if I miss I'll take a huge punish for it.

[@alexssb5023]

Its not necesary to do the tawnhawk with everyone and ledge trump is tricky to pull of so i suggest you to search on yt

[@DarknessAquaticc]

ledge trumping is done by rotating your stick from away from the ledge (ie left or right) to downwards. the timing is stricter the faster your character falls. you can still do tomahawks with slow grab characters but just don't use it that often.

[@daquancarter2085]

this guide is helping I'm watching all parts I'm a Ryu main and sometimes I don't do the things I need to this guide will help me

[@dr_rl123]

Is it sad that I knew more expert techs then advanced?

[@bleggaman]

Isn't Vectoring holding the stick left and right? I've never heard of it being held up or down...

[@nokaccino]

You forgot to mention the *Queue Clear/Clean-up* Which is just when you spam a move (a quick one like jab, some tilts, some aerials, etc.) when the enemy has just died or when you have a moment to breathe so that you can clear your 9-move stale queue and regain freshness on your other moves. This is very helpful for Ness and R.O.B. (off the top of my head) because you don't want much knockback/damage on spammy tilts like R.O.B. and Ness's down tilts so that you can get, potentially, more in at a time. Near-negligible advantages to most, but I try to gain even the smallest percent advantages. This can mean the difference between Clashing moves that would have killed you (i.e. a tilt clashing with a smash attack or other kill move when it's fresh, but not when it's stale) actually killing or not.

[@ElliottDent]

+IzawSmash Thanks for this great series. I have a question: What would you recommend against an opponent who is shielding your aerials well if your character has a very slow grab, and thus tomahawk grabs aren't very effective?

[@RadiaUmbra]

I had always a question that I never thought about asking can I increase my knockback (holding up when DI) at low% to help me recover with characters like Little Mac or Doctor Mario?

[@acceptablespook]

The thing is, how do I counter Sonic with Kirby, or Cloud with Lucas? (Inb4 "Git Gud")

[@Vecderg]

1:15 Did you mean to say vertically or horizontally?

[@SumRandomAzn]

14:13 So step 4 is basically for all the scrubs complaining about Cloud and Ryu

[@ovengut]

As a Ryu main I don't see many people talking trash about Ryu, but oh god Cloud, Rosalina, and Diddy. Those guys get a lot of hate.

[@luislardizabal1900]

The Mario Footstool combo was sick. Gotta practice it.

[@miity9734]

I can't trump well without giving stage control which puts me in a bad spot. I an also slow at bair punishes. Is there an input I should use with the joystick or jump button? Very informative video

[@utherthelightbringer7633]

How do u ledge trump, how do u just drop down and grab the ledge

[@F.A.--]

I wish he would have explained this.

[@voxelfusion9894]

I keep seeing that instant ledge snap when people trump, but it's never explained how to do it. Any help?

[@SuperScopeRawks]

When you run off the ledge instantly tap in the direction of the ledge. It helps to do a half circle motion with the control stick.

[@IzAwSmash]

Circle your analog stick from right, down, to left really fast

[@voxelfusion9894]

+SuperScopeRawks +IzawSmash Thank you very much! This works pretty reliably after a little practice. Also, great video, it was easy to follow without being overwhelming at all!

[@alexandergamoney807]

Hey Izaw, at 1:17, Did you mean "diagonally"? Because vertically In that scenario would mean contradicting the previous directions u gave a few seconds earlier. Thank you

[@Yugyuk]

"Nothing is broken or overpowered." He's right guys, this isn't Melee.

[@keystone5750]

I T I S *N O T M E L E E*

[@johnbaron3484]

@IzawSmash I know most of these ATs and I use them pretty often. But Im only as good as a level 9 CPU. Could you help me by doing like a Art of Movement or Luigi (he's my main)? That would really help me out.

[@MH5PROGRESSMH5]

IzawSmash. I was unable to add your discord. Im am new to discord. So im still learning how the app itself works.

[@Joshodude]

I just want to know how to stop doing dash attacks so often and do jabs right out of a dash

[@RedEmRa]

Izaw, may we have an art of Captain Falcon and/or Ganon video please?

[@IzAwSmash]

sure!

[@RedEmRa]

IzawSmash Respect!

[@RedEmRa]

That isn't meant to be offensive, it's just a way of saying thanks! ( Last time I said respect everybody thought I was being rude and I got hate )

[@IzAwSmash]

lol ^^

[@TheOneRealBrandon]

+King Haunt “RedEmRa” Gaming - Stories I will definitely be watching that when it releases (being a falcon main and all)

[@ciao_shibe1517]

I'd really love to see an Art of Greninja episode since he's such a tricky character!

[@lukewarmscr0temeal]

at 1:15, did you mean to say "If a move launches you a bit more horizontally?"

[@olandomclaughlin2603]

I'd love to see an art of Lucas video. I know quite a few of this techniques apply to him as he is all about the mix-ups. especially buffering aerials, which I do alot. he's my main and I'm trying to absolutely master him. so I'd love to see some pro tips on him because I'm sure there must be some things that I may be missing. would be greatly appreciated if you did this. hoping there are other Lucas mains out there that think the same. not enough Lucas on the pro scene either. believe he's really underrated

[@block36079]

Did I miss the part you explained how to frame cancel?

[@willez99]

Does Dedede has any advanced techniques? Only few what I know about Dedede are his down throw can set up footstools and Uair can fast fall canceled but I don't find those very "advanced". And there are very few Dedede player who tries to expand his meta.

[@condor6327]

I don't mean to sound rude when I say this, but why don't you expand the meta? I don't mean that you have to go to nationals to show your stuff, but really explore your character and discover things on your own so that you might feel the satisfaction of improving truly on your own and through your own hard work. I can understand if you're just looking for some inspiration or general help, but that's just my two cents.

[@willez99]

+whatever Thanks for the advice!

[@HealthyWC-2]

That was a good idea to learn the metagame yourself but it's kinda impossible. Don't take this as your dumb but if your not good at Smash in general with Fundamentals and what not, then I recommend you check out Smash Boards or Google. "De3 tips and tricks Smash 4"

[@flynnp2392]

All I got from the Thumbnail is play Cloud to be an expert

[@johnnycontreras4932]

Malware *bayonetta

[@jello788]

14:17 meta knight would be the same though from brawl

[@doringo3856]

Corrin's counter surge used to be broken because it had a good counter knockback yet it was completely vertical, so it could kill very early and pathetically easily at any point on-stage, making Bayonetta vs Corrin matchups when they just came out very hard for Bayonetta's side. But people complained, and then they nerfed it so it's acceptable. Hoo-hah combo, that totally broke the game too, and it got patched reasonably due to the absurdly early kills (60% I think?) it gave Diddy Kong. Wectoring also got removed, since it allowed Wario to survive high knockback attacks easily as long as they don't outright kill him, but he'd be doomed to not be able to grab the ledge without wectoring, and it also allowed him to get back on stage easily without being edgeguarded. Some things are indeed broken, and they do indeed get patched, but the problem in smash is that if you complain about a character, you complain about atleast a few people's mains, and they take offence to that.

[@jello788]

''complain about atleast a few people's mains'' Sonic main here. I know all about that type of complaining. Its very destructive, not constructive.

[@doringo3856]

+M Depends if you're a regular sonic or a defence camp spam side B shield cancel to stack the sound effect sonic, like that one guy who I forgot his name who fought against ZeRo and drove the audience insane. though, tbh sonic's f-air is pretty much falco's in disguise.

[@jello788]

Doringo nah,i'm a rushdown sonic. depending on side / down b is boring. when i get my wii u back, I want to learn sonic's more interesting setups .i obviously keep the fundamentals tho

[@kush7138]

+Doringo Falco's F-Air is better and Longer.

[@brlvper4]

Only one thing is was super advanced, but I learned something so good job man.

[@Blittsplitt5]

Which direction do I smash di to get out of Yoshi's down air? Thanks

[@iiedgemasterii2849]

can't wait to see you master video

[@johnnyleung5339]

Your intro is basically link killing Zelda

[@maedhros5210]

Awesome! Now I can get into the real stuff! Time to improve my game! "First up, Directional Influence." Great video anyways. The fundamentals are always important, and honestly, improving your fundamentals is better then learning the newest AT. You can't utilize any AT that well without the proper fundamentals.

[@Samurai_Edd]

When you said to stop complaining, I was just like... You are right, I should stop complaining.

[@laurinmeta621]

How do you move you're thumb that fast i don't get it

[@grabyournapkins]

start in training mode on a slower speed and then work up to it

[@laurinmeta621]

+Sam Atkins i did

[@grabyournapkins]

idk what to say then

[@laurinmeta621]

+Sam Atkins yeah me neither

[@nerdcedric]

If you're using the gamepad or a WiiU pro controller, it won't work. The joystick has to have corners or rigdges, since rolling the joystick on one of the ridges counts as an input. So there are two things you can do, one is to instead tap repeatedly on the joystick, or get a new controller and use the rubbing method, if you're still confused, check out MySmashCorners vid for more details.

[@Blittsplitt5]

how do you Smash di to escape Yoshi's down air?

[@DiverseStyle]

Izaw mentioned Monado Purge, a very specific, specialized technique... THE ART OF SHULK NEXT?

[@JoaquinVH]

heh, this is fun, I already knew how to DI even before knowing how to dodge with shield. just wanted to stay in the arena so used the stick to go back and it worked lol.

[@equinox-XVI]

Now then I'm on the transition between advanced and expert... Some how I can play toon link like the worlds best juggler (juggling both bombs and my opponent) but then the closest thing I get to that with any other character is me trying and failing to monado purge as shulk

[@erikhardy6522]

Vectoring wasn't removed from the game?

[@mothmouse9200]

you helped me so much my friend is like, dont main him/her they're bad! so i get all "oh maybe i should'nt main them" so thanks for all the awesome tips

[@atmostfeareric205]

This series is informative AF! I think DI, ledge trump, and Tomahawk should have been in advanced though.

[@nathanconkling2246]

I’m probably going to sound stupid for asking this, but how do you grab the ledge from standing on the stage in order to ledge trump?

[@nathanconkling2246]

Nvm I figured it out

[@owenpostma4519]

You're an awesome dude, Izaw. And your Link is hype as fuck.

[@yoshuahariman]

I always wondered about tomahawking, after watching a video of professor False talking about tomahawking in melee

[@doringo3856]

ike is good at tomahawk grabs.

[@TheJayman213]

DI is more advanced than B-reverse?

[@AdeptusForge]

I can't find you on discord +IzawSmash o.O

[@trixietruelove2274]

I'm kinda stoned so I don't remember fully but did you cover tilt stick vs smash stick? Which is better? Theres a difference in momentum for aerials right?

[@lududelubin3011]

you have better momentum from tilt stick. My Smash Corner covered it in his video about the best control setup(s)

[@Vecderg]

MySmashCorner talks about it in his controller video

[@trixietruelove2274]

Thanks guys!

[@crazycurious9771]

14:22 “Nothing is broken or overpowered...” Now I know he means that if you’re good enough, you can stand up to any challenge... But still... Bayonetta?

[@JeremyGalloway]

I can't even execute tilts reliably without assigning them to the C-stick so there's no way I'm going to be able to pull off reverse fox trots or perfect pivots lol

[@ToluDude]

I feel like this should be Advanced and the video before should be expert. The things here are much easier to do.

[@RecordToDeathToBoredom]

I feel the same. The concepts and execution are a lot easier to grasp, but I guess it doesn't matter. Either way, you're learning a bunch of shit to git gud.

[@silverrain530]

I think the same

[@DarkWolfJr1000]

Same! Glad I wasn't the only one who felt this way

[@condor6327]

+RecordToDeath Preach

[@jazkesh9359]

If anyone could help answer this but can you buffer a PP ?

[@fgsf9]

So can link do a reset its my fav n best char n its just not working for me at all ...(sigh) but when i did mario worked perfectly

[@sageofsong]

Didn't they change Smash 4 to revert back from vectoring?

[@bigboybunter3417]

SDI is so non-existent in this game...for moves like Yoshi's d-air, yeah no problem. But multi-jabs...how do you deal with that? I almost feel trapped in Bayo's multi-jab (especially) no matter how many times I slam/roll the control stick in any direction.

[@DarknessAquaticc]

bayo's multi jab is super freaking hard to sdi out of. Different moves have differen't SDI mutipliers.

[@bigboybunter3417]

DarknessAquatic What's an SDI multiplier? Whenever I try to SDI out of one of these attacks, I always shift all the way over to the left or right before just stopping completely. How do I escape these attacks?

[@DarknessAquaticc]

+Waddle Derp basically an sdi multiplier multiplies how much effect sdi has on the move. some has bigger ones some have smaller. you should be sdi up and away then jump out of most rapid jabs. at low % esp if you use a fast faller you can sdi down and away and shield.

[@joelweber9900]

this video is kickass.

[@1001011011010]

Is hitlag canceling the same thing as autocancel?

[@masonh.7573]

is it possible to reset to early, because I think I do that all the time

[@TodouIota]

Do you got an Art of Marth vid?