The ART of Swapping Part 1. The BASICS - Elden Ring

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Sgt. Jager

Sgt. Jager

Күн бұрын

#eldenring #eldenringpvp
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0:00 Introduction
1:41 Basics Beginning
2:43 Choose a Main Weapon
4:24 Cover its Weaknesses
6:33 Get Off Me Tools & Endure
8:10 Strength Claymore Example
10:16 Intelligence Moonveil Example
12:20 Match-up Specific Swaps
15:06 Projectiles and Examples
17:08 Shields
18:21 Frenzy Seal
19:35 Outro

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@diegoalderette6485
@diegoalderette6485 4 ай бұрын
i learned about managing my inventory by doing co-op of all things. Running out of flasks by the time the host gets to a boss, because i had to run and save em from an invader and 13 mobs kinda got me to carry the hp/fp recovery talismans. Then swapping to them quickly instead of using a flask, required me to have them organized. Same with weapons and shields, swapping to a fire infused over a heavy/holy for an erdtree avatar or giant ants, or a mace for miners or claymen. once i got into invasions, my knowledge of the level design and being in the mindset of swapping items to fit the situation kinda made up for my lack of technical skill, and allowed me to not feel discouraged by getting dunked on. This way when i did lose i had no one or anything to blame besides McDonalds wifi and myself.
@LS-rp6yq
@LS-rp6yq 4 ай бұрын
Ding dong being BASED AS USUAL
@pitshoster401
@pitshoster401 4 ай бұрын
do video on spacing and timing glitch
@WeeabooPocky
@WeeabooPocky 4 ай бұрын
really disgusting
@LS-rp6yq
@LS-rp6yq 4 ай бұрын
Oh no he’s teaching pvers how to PvP
@leonardo9259
@leonardo9259 4 ай бұрын
Pvers will now swap from their moonveil to a moonveil
@theratking7407
@theratking7407 4 ай бұрын
Optimal inventory 3 rows of moonveil
@metaphysicalparadox
@metaphysicalparadox 4 ай бұрын
Ok and?
@redmanFrankie
@redmanFrankie 3 ай бұрын
@@metaphysicalparadox and smash L2
@SD-rp8zm
@SD-rp8zm 2 ай бұрын
It’s sad that high level pvp is basically a weapon swap fest. I hate it, it cheapens the combat and the game has great combat mechanics, diluting the mechanics down to who can swap weapons faster is a waste. Limited weapon carry capacity should be the norm. I wish it was only possible to switch weapons from a storage box. Similar to RDR2. Having to think about your weapon loadout adds to the strategy/fun. I see the combat in this game as a more advanced rock paper scissor. Each weapon has its strengths and weaknesses. Having a build to counter someone elses and them being able to just switch mid fight cheapens the combat.
@Mischievous_Moth
@Mischievous_Moth 4 ай бұрын
I mainly play solo PvE since I don't enjoy PvP much, but I love watching ChaseTheBro and I'm always amazed by his hard swapping skills. Thanks for breaking it down, I'll never take for granted just how much skill Hard swapping takes. lol
@metaphysicalparadox
@metaphysicalparadox 4 ай бұрын
So I'm new to hardswapping and it's really not as hard as it seems, 30 minutes of practice and you pretty much got it
@BlackGeine
@BlackGeine 2 ай бұрын
Chain Saw = Hard. Hard Swapping = Not So Much. You Can Even Do It Without Eldenring. Sawp Your Hard.
@Cartoftar
@Cartoftar 4 ай бұрын
I enjoyed this video as a PvP only type of player. I’ve swapped for ages and these are the videos that help this community the most. Expanding your mindset. I almost always run 2 of the same weapon all over my inventory as a surprise new AoW. I’m glad you’re taking on the daunting task of suggesting something new to either new pvpers or even the PvErs. I’ve always had the same general idea behind getting to know somebody through these kinda games, it’s looking how they organize their inventory. It’s always different and it shows how they think about their situations. Anywho I’m blabbering, keep up the good work mate.
@maciejcocieto4361
@maciejcocieto4361 4 ай бұрын
Gamers nowdays have something wrong with their heads. You can always open a menu and change weapon on the go. You can open menu and slowly navigate through it to change up your equipment even mid boss fight. How is this "unintended mechanic"? When you are fighting crafting menu is locked while inventory is open. smh
@youtubeenjoyer1743
@youtubeenjoyer1743 4 ай бұрын
It kind of is unintended because you still have soft swap slots that increase your weight. I’d say removing the weight increase on those is a big QOL improvement
@GuiriTV
@GuiriTV 4 ай бұрын
​​@@youtubeenjoyer1743 Agreed. Also, it doesnt take any skill to exploit dupe or have people drop weapons for you. The hardest part of hardswap like this is getting the items necessary for your inventory. And not everyone is willing to cheat, using an exploit to dupe, and not everyone has a ton of friends playing ER that are willing to drop them weapons. The only "fair" way to get the weapons is going through multiple NG+ for the extra weapons and ashes of wars you need. The amount of arrogance around this "tech" is ridiculous. Tryhard PvPers will cling onto any glitchy, clunky "tech" to have an advantage over others, even if it's an unintended side effect of the engine or a bug.
@youtubeenjoyer1743
@youtubeenjoyer1743 4 ай бұрын
@@GuiriTV True, i don't have any friends that play video games, but i also don't want to contact redditors for item duping, so my only option is playing through the game a few times to exhaust every branching item path twice. It was great in short games like Dark Souls 3, but Elden Ring is way too big to replay 2-4 times grabbing every single item on the way. Just adding infinite respect and some sort of weapon duplication mechanic at the end of the game (maybe NG+ even) would be HUGE for experimentation and PvP. It's also very easy to implement.
@Gankstomper
@Gankstomper 2 ай бұрын
​@@GuiriTV🤡 cry
@SD-rp8zm
@SD-rp8zm 2 ай бұрын
It isn’t an unintended mechanic otherwise the game wouldn’t glitch when hardswapping. It cheapens the combat especially in PVP. Many PVP games don’t allow you to switch 100 different weapons mid fight. You have to carefully decide what to equip which adds to the strategy. Each weapon has its strengths and weaknesses and being able to switch fight mid combat to counter your opponent is cheap. It turns pvp into a competition of who can swap faster/has the better equipment. Case in point. Often in arena duels I encounter try hards who will switch to health regen armours/talismans/shields and run away until they heal when they’re at 5% health. Trash players. Now I’m forced to equip dragon breath to finish them off, a spell I don’t like using but is the most effective way to counter such a pathetic playstyle.
@mustafayigitkartal4257
@mustafayigitkartal4257 4 ай бұрын
This reminds me of that one video book of matches made about inventory layouts for ds3. Great vid as always man, the work really shows o7
@SgtJager00
@SgtJager00 4 ай бұрын
Book is an OG, love his channel! Ty bro!
@mustafayigitkartal4257
@mustafayigitkartal4257 4 ай бұрын
@@SgtJager00 The invader decathlon is gotta be one of my fav youtube series on anything. Truly top tier content.
@pinguinn_
@pinguinn_ 4 ай бұрын
didn't expect HSR ost here lol nice video, keep it up!
@finnianramsey4634
@finnianramsey4634 4 ай бұрын
Wow thanks for this. I'm a newbie invader so I've been wanting to swap and organize my inventory. I will follow your career with great interest.
@ohm-e-
@ohm-e- 4 ай бұрын
redditors take the L + ratio + skill issue + custom inventory layouts are good for my ocd
@St-ef9ru
@St-ef9ru 4 ай бұрын
Yoooo I was just thinking about getting better at PvP after recently being exposed to players like Steelovsky and ChaseTheBro. It's so disorienting seeing them navigating through their inventory so quickly. Will definitely add this to my watch later for the next time I play, thanks a lot!
@Tarnished_Onryo
@Tarnished_Onryo 17 күн бұрын
I wish more people would get into PvP honestly. I love content like this. I myself love both sides, PvP and PvE. When I invade, I have fun. When I get invaded, I also love that. However, I noticed that sentiment isn't shared by most of the community. A lot of my invasion content gets lots of hate and my PvE content in which I kill invaders gets lot of comments like "f##k invaders" (or something similar). Like I don't do either one because I hate the other side you? I just love the game. Id love to see more people get into PvP as well
@Nortsan197
@Nortsan197 4 ай бұрын
Will there be an armor or talisman video in the future, it's a really great series
@SgtJager00
@SgtJager00 4 ай бұрын
Yes there will!
@beanbeater
@beanbeater 3 ай бұрын
i've seen chasethebro do this a lot, but I get killed when I try it I'm slow as hell. thank you for this
@pacosrevenge1
@pacosrevenge1 4 ай бұрын
Ive battled some and they panic swap aswell .
@Mechpilot0790
@Mechpilot0790 4 ай бұрын
I really need to test some of my funky little weapon combos in pvp, I only know what they do in pve
@JOJO-kh9ck
@JOJO-kh9ck 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the information..Very well made for beginners like us.... I have 2 questions.. 1) Say I am running a sword and board with a noble slender sword(Sword dance or storm blade ash) and a medium shield.. What would be the weaknesses of this build what should I do to cover them.. 2) Between Beast roar and Stormblade which is a better counter against mages??Which is faster or more useful to counter fast casting mages?
@SgtJager00
@SgtJager00 4 ай бұрын
Thank you man! I appreciate that a ton! 1) unfortunately sword and board is not a very good setup in Elden Ring with quite a few weaknesses. You can choose to not do these swaps if you didn't like them, but If it were me, these are the swaps I would have: - sword and board generally has a damage problem, there are two practical ways to solve this. Near your shield in your inventory I would consider a second sword so you can pull out power stance straight sword if you think one sword can't cut it. Or you could run a self buffing ash of War like lightning slash or cragblade on your sword to make it hit harder. -you will definitely want a get off me tool like storm caller or stromhawk axe for example - a single sword has a forward momentum problem, so you could have a halberd (rr1) or heavy Thrusting sword (rr2) nearby to really throw off your opponent. -I would run two of the same shield and have them right next to eachother in your inventory, one with a parry (carian retaliation is the best since it counters magic) and one with no skill so you can use ashes of war. 2) both beast roar and storm blade are very good options, and you could certainly run both on the build. -beast roar is less telegraphed and the projectile is comparatively bigger than storm blade. This one is almost always better than storm blade when you are farther away from your opponent. -storm blade does more damage, comes out faster (I think, I could be wrong), can be spammed due to being a combo ash of War, and has a hitbox on the sword as well. Due to these differences, storm blade is quite a bit better at close range, say within about 20 feet of your opponent. Both sword dance and storm blade would work well on the noble sword, so I would expirement and see what you like the most! I hope this helped.
@JOJO-kh9ck
@JOJO-kh9ck 4 ай бұрын
@@SgtJager00 Thanks for the elaborate reply... Power Stance is not my style...I guess I will go with Claymore than for pvp...Since it's also simple looking sword like SS... And Great epee and Greatsword for backup..I will also try Stormblade...Again thanks..
@Rah215
@Rah215 4 ай бұрын
Lmao I never understood how people swapped so fast so I’ve always just used 2-3 weapons
@matth464
@matth464 4 ай бұрын
Hi Jagger, great video with useful tips. Just wondering what technique how you set up your controler? Do you use back paddles or just standard controler with claw grip
@SgtJager00
@SgtJager00 4 ай бұрын
Ty man! While I currently have a controller with paddles, I've spent the mass majority of my time claw gripping. Paddles are certainly nice, but not necessary
@matth464
@matth464 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the reply Jager! I'm trying to get use to the claw grip it's not as bad as I thought and much more convenient for souls games@@SgtJager00
@TheHoosier
@TheHoosier 4 ай бұрын
You should make a video about swapping from moonveil and then never swapping back ❤
@SgtJager00
@SgtJager00 4 ай бұрын
Bet
@bigtimdavis1365
@bigtimdavis1365 4 ай бұрын
W video 🫵🏽
@achaziel
@achaziel 4 ай бұрын
Are you planning on going over poise as well, i.e. evaluating what breakpoints being worth paying attention to when invading etc? That's a topic that's still splitting the community in two camps a little bit, so any informed insight on this would be nice
@SgtJager00
@SgtJager00 4 ай бұрын
I certainly can, but I'll have to do some research on that since I almost exclusively run fashion over poise haha
@achaziel
@achaziel 4 ай бұрын
@@SgtJager00 which I feel is totally fair in the current patch honestly, but I personally have a hard time lettinf go of that pre-1.10 mindset - if anything, the recommended breakpoint of 89 has gotten a bit higher over the previously comfy 75 (if memory serves). Above 89 does help in certain scenarios, but I honestly feel like those are edge cases...
@LyllianaTV
@LyllianaTV 4 ай бұрын
don't forget the cheap gundyr swap using the dragon kings cragblade swap
@SgtJager00
@SgtJager00 4 ай бұрын
Lmao
@avin8749
@avin8749 17 күн бұрын
Hi it takes so many click for me to swap a weapon (play station) I found you are doing it way faster. Could you tell me how please and thank you
@destinsather9757
@destinsather9757 4 ай бұрын
How do you make your inventory the way you want it? Does it have to do with the order you take it out of the storage box?
@SgtJager00
@SgtJager00 4 ай бұрын
Yes it does, you have to order based on the order things were "acquired" thus putting all your stuff in your box, and pulling things back out in the desired order. This is something I'll go over in the next episode!
@ETBrooD
@ETBrooD 4 ай бұрын
*Rotating ten different weapons* Game: yes indeed, you are in fact still light rolling :D
@HorridOnlineTroll
@HorridOnlineTroll 4 ай бұрын
PvP is good for those that enjoy it, I prefer PVE because, weirdly, it has greater build diversity
@SubmachineExplorer
@SubmachineExplorer 4 ай бұрын
Rollcatch exploit next (REAL)
@skollrath
@skollrath 4 ай бұрын
do you have any tips for farming golem arrows?
@SgtJager00
@SgtJager00 4 ай бұрын
You have to pick your poison: 1) Have someone drop you a dupe stash 2) If you want to farm them like I have for my level 80 build (I'm at around 150 golem arrows), I recommend this process: -turn off autosave for Elden Ring and get into the habit of uploading and downloading save data, uploading will make a new save, download will revert your characters to your last upload. -farm the golem that has a bow at the beginning of Altus plateau lift, there is a site of grace nearby to the west. -get just enough golem arrows for one play session, so I'd say around 100 arrows (while uncommon they drop in fives) -make an upload with your farmed arrows. -play and use the arrows, and once you're done, download your save back to that upload. -if you plan on farming more, something else, or progressing the game on any character (essentially any progress made you don't want to lose) don't use any arrows, upload once you are done with your farming or progress, and only use your arrows or other valuables until you both have an up to date upload, and plan on playing for a bit without making any progress. I know this is very long-winded, but this is the only way to use legitimately farmed valuables and not have to constantly farm. I hope this helps!
@skollrath
@skollrath 4 ай бұрын
thank you sgt
@iamamish
@iamamish 4 ай бұрын
Using the menu is an unpatched exploit
@SgtJager00
@SgtJager00 4 ай бұрын
Agreed😎👍
@burritowyrm6530
@burritowyrm6530 4 ай бұрын
not gonna lie i just be swappin to something random
@SassyTheSasquatch96
@SassyTheSasquatch96 4 ай бұрын
At what point is chainsawing ok then?
@leonardo9259
@leonardo9259 4 ай бұрын
1.- when the net is unplayable 2.- when the spam is unbearable 3.- when the glitches are cancer 4.- whenever you think it'd be funny as hell lmao
@ETBrooD
@ETBrooD 4 ай бұрын
Never. If you're up against cheaters, extreme lag or anything of that sort, just end the invasion.
@GuiriTV
@GuiriTV 4 ай бұрын
Never okay. It's an unintended side effect of being able to hardswap quickly with barely any input delay. It should be patched out by adding a delay to accessing your weapon menu. So you'll still be able to hardswap, but it'll remove unintended "property swap" bugs riddled in Fromsoft games, as well as give people the ability to punish and react to hardswappers.
@hertzzgames
@hertzzgames 4 ай бұрын
never
@LS-rp6yq
@LS-rp6yq 4 ай бұрын
Always
@GuiriTV
@GuiriTV 4 ай бұрын
Great video guide, but I hope they patch unintended things like this out. Obviously this isnt an intended feature, and it's quite frustrating to go up against. And as this guide shows, it doesnt take a lot of effort other than managing your inventory in a meaningful way and a few quick inputs. However, even if anyone can really do it, and it takes no real effort to do so, the difficulty is acquiring the weapons necessary. Most people rely on weapon dupe glitch, which I constitute as cheating. Until Fromsoft adds a way to buy multiple weapons with runs and ashes of war, weapon dupers in my mind are cheaters. As for the other group, which get free weapons dropped, either you need friends to drop you weapons who play ER, or be a streamer with viewers who do so. Not everyone has access to this, so it's unreasonable to expect it. The final and only legit viable option is playing through multiple iterations of NG+, which everyone has access to. The only difficulty is time. How much time the player is willing to put in all for extra weapons to get an edge in PvP. Not everyone is willing to go so far for such a thing. This technique, as many tryhard pvpers tend to use and justify, isnt an issue of skill, but accessibility. The only skill involved is quick button inputs to swap, and the rest is just tedious preparation not everyone is willing to do based on their available options to get weapon dupes. Sure, you can do it with other weapons, but you need extra weps for proper inventory layout and management, so minimal duplicates are required at times. EDIT: I have to clarify by what I mean by "unintended feature" and what needs to be patched out. Players shouldn't be able to quickly put inputs to hardswap so fast that it's unreactable, or not telegraphed effectively to counter. This also leads to unintended side effects because of quick hardswaps that have been in Fromsoft games since DaS1 (WA swapping on weapons, buffing weapons that shouldnt be buffed, chainsaw in ER, etc...)
@leonardo9259
@leonardo9259 4 ай бұрын
Yap yap yap yap
@GuiriTV
@GuiriTV 4 ай бұрын
@@leonardo9259 Weapon exploit duper spotted LMAO
@Eo-ms3kw
@Eo-ms3kw 4 ай бұрын
It's pretty damn obvious that it is an intended feature. Hardswapping has been a thing since ds1 (Probably even DeS but I don't know cause I haven't played it) and it would be extremely easy to remove. So Fromsoft having never done anything about it should be prove enough that it's intentional.
@leonardo9259
@leonardo9259 4 ай бұрын
@@GuiriTV boohoo have fun wasting hours of your life farming string
@GuiriTV
@GuiriTV 4 ай бұрын
@@Eo-ms3kw That depends on the definition of "intended feature". Some "features" are products of the engine that are either bugs or consequences of mechanics. Some are worthwhile addressing (such as wavedashing), while others aren't really worth it because it doesn't outright break anything (removing hardswapping). Of course hardswapping is intentional in the sense that you can equip a weapon from your inventory whenever. But I don't think hardswapping within the context of how PvP pros do it and how the video addresses it with quick hardswap (hardswapping quickly to mixup weapons & attacks) was something in Fromsoft's purview. After all, the quick hardswapping inputs is responsible for the Chainsaw bug. Is that intentional? The obvious answer is no. I disagree with solutions saying hardswapping should be removed. Just imagine swapping to a weapon to test it out, only to be locked out of swapping because you got into combat! Now you're stuck with an un-upgraded weapon, simply because you decided to try it out in PvE with enemies nearby. Everyone already hates the map lock-out in combat. My suggestion is adding a slight menu delay. You can still hardswap, but you'll have to be more deliberate about it, and can only hardswap few things at a time, like a talisman or a single weapon during neutral or retreat. So if you want to counter hardswappers, you can by applying pressure when it's obvious they're attempting to do so. But, you're not removing the expression and freedom of hard swapping. Then, you'd remove unintended side effects and bugs from hardswaps that have riddled the game since DaS1 (and also chainsaw bug in ER). Also, Fromsoft should just add a shop after beating the game that lets you buy as many weapons and AoW as you want... That would prevent weapon duping and give players more accessibility to this strategy. tl;dr, I don't disagree with you entirely, but there are some hiccups with this mechanic that clearly aren't intentional...
@abrahamrangel2326
@abrahamrangel2326 2 ай бұрын
Noooooo how you dare invite others to abuse this exploit 😠😠🤬😡
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