The Art They Called Vulgar | Prof. Shailaja Paik on Dalit Women and the History of Dance in India

[@himanshupal6083]

Landmark moment for not just Dalits but every oppressed caste

[@Anityam]

Jai Bhim

[@PokhrajRoy.]

YES! GREAT CHOICE OF GUEST! Also, congratulations to Prof. Shailaja on the MacArthur Genius Grant.

[@indianhistorybuff]

How are you everywhere on KZbin?

[@PokhrajRoy.]

@@indianhistorybuff Magicians don’t reveal their secrets

[@chhandasarkar8094]

Such a overwhelming journey of Prof. Shailaja Paik. Feeling proud of her success 🎉

[@dishasawant4385]

Thanks Anurag! We can't thank Prof. Paik enough for her excellent work and findings! Congratulations to her! The oppressed community truly has elevated this country. It is a shame that most of the contribution gets appropriated by upper castes and classes.

[@msanghamitra]

Loved the episode! Congratulations on getting the genius to your podcast! 🎉 Other guests should be so proud to be part of the line up of this show!

[@TheCultureCafebyAMV-re8hs]

💙💙

[@DesiGeekyViper]

I learned about the MacArthur Genius Grant from The Big Bang Theory. India offers two contrasting examples: one involving misuse of caste benefits, like the Puja Khedkar case, and the other being Shailaja Pai, an inspiring figure studying India's ground realities.

[@shubhamchande4360]

Congratulations to Prof. Shailaja Paik for her Genius grant. Looking forward to read her book The Vulgarity of caste.

[@AdityaWork-d7t]

Where have you been man,I'm so happy to see you to as a podcaster.I always loved to listen to you. #Thanks Anurag

[@gayathrik5070]

Am so glad to have stumbled upon this insightful conversation. Collectively and consciously each person can make a difference to everyone. Thanks for sharing with clarity the stance we all need to take on such discrimination

[@ChhayaKhobragade-tl4ek]

During her PhD she took my interview at my nagpur

[@gargidev9125]

We need more empowering & inspirational stories of dalit women like hers. Ur India's proud mam keep up the good work👍❤

[@ajinkyapc]

Was nice listening to Dr. Shailaja's journey and her research.

[@manteshsharma9351]

Congratulations mam.. An inspiration to many budding scholars especially young women across all sections of Indian society to persue their scholarly dreams

[@rahulkamble4314]

This is top tier content Anurag 👌

[@ArtofExpression-aoe]

Thank you for inviting her. She is such a lovely person. Sad that people trolled her just because of her caste!

[@Hidden-Gems-Online]

Loved Prof. Shailaja indepth understanding of her subject and being rick solid inspire of such a struggled upbringing

[@scholarpradeep03]

motivated by this wonderful personality, Jay Bhim.

[@Inquestioner]

Wish there was more of her work in the interview than her academic journey.

[@devs2790]

I wish it were a longer discussion! But I guess I’ll read her book 😊 Edit: kudos to you for managing to have her on the podcast though and discussing this important topic!🫡

[@Bhawna-y1l]

Congratulations, really appreciated her openness to share her work. Will read her more soon..Few questions 1. 14:41 why and how, I experience it also, in distinct towns in 2022, that for being IAS you need MP connections etc. How long and what all we know about it and did to sort it ? 2. Appeciate that being with humble backgrounds you get access to English, which might helped you, is it so or not ? Is this scholarships in UK and US are open to other languages. 3. Is Dr. Bhim Rao Ambekar ji, miscalculation power of society and human meanness and end up making exploiting creamy layer who act as lobbiest and taking all perks ? 4. Isn't your last question is around copyrights laws in India. Highlighting copypate and not giving credit. Why they invite, you honor them to learn and share it with others. 5. Is lack of education or better lanuage skills or exposure of abusive words reason of vulgarity in songs or shows like roadies etc, which are inspired by tamasha . We are using words without understanding meaning and impact of its in society and that's why they are linked to caste and need corrections. What as community dalits did for it. Instead of making political parties..undergraduates and without jobs have children by collecting money on street for organising religious feast and played all sorts of song , collect money and enter in crime or cheap talks when asked to change their ways. Jain, sikh and Muslims are all from it them only and they never change there ways, eg thinking of skin, bread and entrainment...whereas higher need or better roads, giving scholarships to Europen are not in there psyche. PS. Why and how caste system discourse started in US corporates or Europen psyche.

[@20Agneta]

Excellent interview! Thank you for sharing

[@rdxroy22]

Prof. Shailaja Paik critiques the narrative of Dr. B. R. Ambedkar, the twentieth century’s most influential caste abolitionist. Ambedkar places responsibility on Dalit women to uplift themselves through the rejection of sexualized performance, even if doing so causes great hardship. My point is the professions Dalit women are often forced into are deeply tied to caste-based exploitation and stigma, making it difficult for them to gain true dignity while remaining within those frameworks. Ambedkar saw the rejection of such professions as essential to Dalit women's liberation, believing that participation in practices that were historically used to demean and oppress them would hinder their ability to uplift themselves and their communities. Can dignity be achieved within a system that fundamentally devalues Dalit women’s labor and bodies? Ambedkar’s stance seems to imply that Dalit women's dignity can only be fully restored by breaking free from these caste-based, exploitative roles, which perpetuate both caste oppression and gendered violence. In this light, the idea of rejecting such professions is not about burdening Dalit women but about envisioning a pathway where they are no longer bound by roles that caste has historically imposed on them. Instead, Ambedkar encouraged economic independence through education, land ownership, and access to non-stigmatized professions as essential steps toward reclaiming dignity.

[@Ohhsin]

Just like Bharatnatyam and Sadir attam, Ayurveda and tribal know-how of medicinal plants.

[@akhandachhatria1248]

Congratulations ma'am 🎉🎉

[@Aditya14YT]

Keep Doing Good Work 🎉

[@CoimbatoreCulturalClub]

Congrats from Periyar land Coimbatore,Tamilnadu

[@team1275]

I am pretty sure in Bangladesh we use to have this art form known as Yatra/pala. I think it is gone now as Bangladesh became more fundamentalsist all form of art will disappear eventually. Good luck Bangladesh! We don't have a Shailaja Paik to remind us that art could exist anywhere. Doesn't matter upper or lower class. Thank you and your guest. Such a lively discussion. Food for thought.

[@pragatipandey9271]

Many many congratulations Ma'am ❤❤🎉

[@jaibudhadev66]

All the best to madam Paik

[@mukteswardhangadamajhi8443]

great episode . I am going to read her books .

[@grao6729]

Congratulations 🎉 Wee feel proud ❤

[@apalamvihar]

Thanks

[@rachnasingh3488]

You are an inspiration mam kudos to your work👏🏼

[@wisdomdrops26]

Great ❤

[@vish2ual]

these vulagarity exists across all the contininents. it is only in india caste tag is attached that is shameful

[@himanshupal6083]

I have never seen caste based murders in other countries

[@athirajm]

Thank you ❤❤❤❤❤

[@duskyme]

Why her, she wrote some very ugly articles on Ambedkar. She reflects the same upper caste feminist understanding of caste and gender in the academic and misinterpret him. Her getting the award is understandable.

[@anandrv81]

nobody is above critical analysis. Even MLK and Gandhi have been critically studied. Why should anyone be exempt? Seems like you are jealous!

[@AksharaAbigail-hh1yr]

No body is above is critical analysis , but when the critical analysis is DISHONEST and based on Savarna feminism,​it becomes extremely problematic , Lindu Savarna and Ashraf women think that they are our saviours and this clown promotes the same ideals in her articles @@anandrv81

[@himanshupal6083]

Koi bhagwaan nhi hai. Sabki analysis hogi

[@sameerkamble1267]

Congratulations 🎉🎉🎉👏👏👏

[@TanneryProductionsByVK]

The audio podcast on apple only has two minutes. Some error. Please check it amv bhai

[@TheCultureCafebyAMV-re8hs]

Yes. Fixed now. Re-uploaded!

[@ProfAVanHelsing]

AMV Bhai is a great name. The bhai of Indian intellectuals--AMV Bhai!

[@Zelda2950-k7y]

congratulations ma'am

[@ChhayaKhobragade-tl4ek]

Great

[@Anityam]

Jai Bhim...Bahujano ko mauka mile to Dunia badal denge

[@himanshupal6083]

Jai bhim karne se nhi badloge. Padh lo

[@preetik1564]

Appreciating shylaya you can see the grudge by one of the commentator vishnu. The uppercase don't digest the fact of the oppressed reach or other path of higher education and ladder. They spit venus.

[@nuhwe]

❤

[@sandymittal8007]

🙏

[@pranamirajbangshi7441]

anurag 🙌

[@arvindsonrish1529]

Prof Shailja × UPSC 😭

[@TheVishnu8]

Caste Matters! Also Caste Sells. Specially in the US. Jobs, grants, promotions, all these come in generous proportions if you tout the effects of caste on social life in India.

[@Observance-ny7vh]

Really! I don't have an idea for that. But if this happens it's not a good sign

[@Commutinyyyy]

As opposed to touting caste in India to get the benefits that upper caste manuwaadis have enjoyed for centuries which still continues.

[@Commutinyyyy]

In US, they're more aware and Willing to ensure equity of opportunities, unlike India where upper caste your their caste on every occassion just to show their caste pride. Their generational privilege accumulated by centuries of caste based atrocities is enough to keep them safe and they know this. The only thing that makes them uncomfortable and angry is when their casteist reality is called out.

[@indosanct-rn9sr]

genius award means get 30/100 to pass that too after 50 percent reservations in maths science 100/100 in victimcard and living in the imaginary past

[@indianchutney2858]

Good! Ab ek baar aur ro! Iss baar rone ki awaaz padosi tak jaani chaiye. Chal shuru hoja 3..2…1

[@indosanct-rn9sr]

@@indianchutney2858 30/100 im not lying thats the truth

[@AksharaAbigail-hh1yr]

Lindu is trying to bring up reservation when it's not relevant here. ​@@indosanct-rn9sr