Hubby and I got two .25 M16Ds. We own a lot of top tier PCPs from RAW, FX, Daystate etc. We do enjoy playing with lower end PCPs and tinkering with them to see what we can get them to do. These guns are EXCELLENT performing guns for the money. We did some valve work, machined a adaptor to extend the drop block out past the stock. We did this so we could use carbon 45ci 4500psi regulated bottles. We got the regs set where we wanted them and then used hammer spring for fine adjustments. It took some time to do the work we did but that's what we enjoy and we have a CNC machine and lathe at our shop so this was all done by us. We cut new barrel crowns on the lathe because the factory crown was decent but a quick job for us to cut a flawless crown. We then did a lead lap of the barrel getting a super fine finish (factory after a really good cleaning the barrels finish was again decent but after some time with JB bore paste and then some diamond paste the barrels finish is match grade) and we opened the transfer port slightly and deburred then smoothed the pellet lead. Then we did some polishing work on trigger parts and we wound up with a very good trigger (not a Crown or HMX trigger but very good) The guns are setup to shoot JSB 33.95s at 58ftlbs. 10 shot 50y groups (using single load) are consistently .5 to 5/8s inch VERY impressive for a gun of this cost. 100y 10 shot groups running right at 2 inches (at our local 100 yard indoor range) again very impressive for a 400 dollar gun, will it shoot with our Crowns or Impacts? No but it is a 400 dollar gun vs a 2000 dollar gun. The shot string on the bottles we are running is amazing, we are getting 140 shots on the reg at 59ftlbs with a SD of 3fps and an ES of 13fps over 140 shots. We also found that both of them shoot NSA 29.5 grain slugs in .249 extremely well. We was consistently smacking 12oz soda cans at 200 yards early in the morning with them. 5 shot 100y groups with the slugs are running right around 1.5 moa and 5 shot 200y groups running right around 3 to 3.5 moa. We was hitting soda cans at 200y about 7 out of 10 shotz. Some tinkering we made these guns perform extremely well and very fun to shoot. As a field gun for hunting squirrels or rabbits this would be excellent for that. With the NSA 29.5s you could consistently take rabbits out to a 125 to 150y. With 33.95 JSBs 100y is rabbit vital area no problems and the gun has plenty of shots so no need to carry a refill source. We want to buy two more in .22 and set them up the same way. At 30ftlbs the shot count would be upwards of 300 and if they would shoot the FX hybrids well it would be no issue with some valve work getting 40ftlbs from it. That would be a flat shooting rabbit killing field gun that i wouldn't worry about scratching etc etc while out chasing bushy tails. Right now we have a Royale 400 .22 and .25 Royale 500 that we don't worry ro much about that we use as our rabbit guns.
@laurieharper15266 жыл бұрын
Great review. Excellent consistency over the chrono, not overly pellet fussy and the accuracy is very impressive. Amazing what you get for your money these days.
@stephengunrunnerhanson35506 жыл бұрын
Great shooting from a very good budget rifle that shoots like a allot more expensive rifle proving you do not need to spend £1000s of pounds to get a good rifle thank you Si for your time and a great video once again you lads tell it as it is and a great chronograph test looking forwards to the next video take care
@markhomer76286 жыл бұрын
For the money , that is one hell of a rifle , accurate as anyone would like (Si i know you could group 3 turds from a catapult at 30mtrs under a 5p ) .. super looking gun as well , recon it's a no brainier for someone wanting a PCP as there first rifle .. I like it ..I like it a lot
@davehogg636 жыл бұрын
Very impressive Si, £399 with that capability is unusual and well worth it.
@alandavis99744 жыл бұрын
I have an Artemis rile off SFS that I am realy happey with. It is on my FAC and is approx 30f/lbs. What a rifle. Very proud to have it.
@Andrew-qn8fu6 жыл бұрын
It's great that you review some of the lower price bracket guns, not every ones budget can cover a hw or an fx. Great review👍
@alandavis99745 жыл бұрын
I've got one of those rifles from Sandwell Field Sports. Mine was put on my FAC at 30 f/lbs and it is perfect. Tony sighted it in with AA Diabolo Field. A real bunney stopper.
@u.kairrifleshuntingtargeta94386 жыл бұрын
i found that using an ear bud is great for seating pellets Si. Lovely rifle and classic pcp lines. Look forward to seeing more. Sig saur also sends a pellet seater with their co2 mpx but i' always loosing the bally thing
@weirdscience83415 жыл бұрын
I love it when you show sfs at the beggining and tony wall he built my hw80k that things special it puts 20 shots under a 10p hes the best airgun/gunsmith in the uk period im after this pcp if tony does a bit of work on it il buy it from him even if not id get it from sfs just to support sandwell feild sports ✌✌
@orsonkaart18534 жыл бұрын
weird science , I agree, Tony Wall is is a great gunsmith and a very helpful guy !
@wibble19996 жыл бұрын
Well Si.... Couldn't hold out any longer... Just on way home with the M16D .22 the same gun but with a pressure gauge and a reg gauge...new scope by Nikki Sterling and I can't wait for weekend to shoot.
@secondfirstsecond6 жыл бұрын
The only trusted airgun channel.
@wibble19996 жыл бұрын
Great guns.. I owned a .22 m22 sporter. super accurate outstanding shot capacity. tad agricultural on the bolt but in this age of customizing its not hard to personalise.... can still be picked up the m22 foe sub £300 multishoy regulated.... brand new!!...
@kevvyboy636 жыл бұрын
Wow...thats a lot of gun for the money. Cant wait to see the nv footage with the dns in action, i have the same set up as well and it is fantastic. Damien at dns builds some great kit and it doesnt break the bank either. Nice shooting as well mate.
@moonbear1st6 жыл бұрын
impressive i had the artemis p10 shorty bullpup .22 it uses the same magazine.£19.99 for a spare from pellpax,it like the rws superfields and it cost £399.00 decent looking guns that can do the job and at proper price. and that rifle the m16a looked proper tasty..
@asimf200316 жыл бұрын
nice review, i like your videos, alot of information and learning from your reviews, please make a detailed video on angle shooting. thanks
@robincormie8556 жыл бұрын
Hi john yes I owned the m30 but had to send it back I exchanged it for a Zobria from the Ukraine which is brilliant,though I liked the m30 accuracy was a problem I think it was a crap barrel because it was very consistent over the chrony scrubbed the barrel which are mega dirty polished the hammer removed machine marks etc but was still not accurate tried 6 different pellets but I am delighted with Zobria.
@remskicodhead16 жыл бұрын
Very nice rifle for the money some cracking shots Si.
@larrysullivan65364 жыл бұрын
Brilliant gun so accurate so well explained love it I want one of these love it cheers Larrysullivan in London
@nissan300bhp6 жыл бұрын
awesome shooting si. been out down my hft club today with my rm8 .22. so good these budget guns, makes you wonder why bother spending 2k on rifle
@weirdscience83416 жыл бұрын
Reminds me a hell of a lot of the good old theoben rapid 👍 ohhh I want one of these big time
@rayhartley72902 жыл бұрын
You are an awesome shot. Inspirational....
@peetje280219706 жыл бұрын
That's a nice permission mate, good shooting as always.
@71simonforrester3 жыл бұрын
Entertaining video, and great marksmanship!
@shanerobinson67766 жыл бұрын
Nice to c u checking out a mid range rifle and putting it through a good test
@douglaswilson39784 жыл бұрын
Great show ,keep it coming ,Merry Christmas, from Canada..
@Tranceshuffle16 жыл бұрын
Excellent review mate, im a proud owner of the PR900W and for £200 its phenomenal
@chopperhehehe3 жыл бұрын
Cracking gun for that money hope all is good 👍👍👍😜🏴🦕🙂🤞✌
@lindarogers89946 жыл бұрын
Nice rifle for the price. I believe the Union Flag decal on the rifle is back to front!
@crm25077776 жыл бұрын
Smk branded rifles and the Chinese built rifles have really come on in build quality and performance Don't think you can get a better new PCP for the money!
@weirdscience83415 жыл бұрын
There fantastic the barrels are made on old diana machinery there on par with hw and bsa barrels
@uriahheep84706 жыл бұрын
Nice review. Really like your channel.
@2010leelee20106 жыл бұрын
Great as always 👍👍👍👍👍👍
@joekelly93695 жыл бұрын
Yes for the price i wouldnt mind chopping some beech up and making that pistol grip slightly vertical . Blacken it a tad ..could look decent
@brettbentley16906 жыл бұрын
Great rifle !
@masterrai5921 Жыл бұрын
I grew up with smk b2 thinking smk were shit but thier high tier guns are worthy. Mint looking gun 🤯
@0777cnut6 жыл бұрын
Thats impressive shooting
@VerminHuntersTV6 жыл бұрын
Thanks, not bad to say i dont shoot that often these days.
@aboutthemetal87836 жыл бұрын
I think Diana have made a good move by having guns made to the spec by snow peak ( the company that makes smks pcps) and then having a Minnelli stock made for some variations, I can imagine the Chinese making a big impact on the pcp market if they keep on doing good , and even more so if other companies do what Diana have done , I think the gun companies are slowly going to see there sales drop over the nxt year or two due to the massive price difference, it shows all us shooters how much gun you can actually get for a real good price , the likes of daystate and the other big boys need to take note and get the pricing down, iv got theobens, daystates, and brockock sniper , and the cheapest was 1k , If I was new to the sport I think I’d be a smk devotee!
@tomlyth7396 жыл бұрын
hinsi just to let you know the thred on barrel is not 1/2inch more like 3/4inch and the silencer came from snowpeak it comes with rifle . so cant buy any other silencers to fit.
@VerminHuntersTV6 жыл бұрын
OK pal good point cheers for sharing
@darrencady42616 жыл бұрын
One slight problem, Simon. 15.9 grains at 583 fps is extremely close to our 12ftlbs limit. How would, say, an 18 grain pellet fare in this rifle? A very nice rifle for the price but the line is thin between a low powered air weapon and a section 1 firearm. It takes only one shot to go over and the owner is in deep trouble so reducing the power to 11 ftlbs with AA Field would be wise. Just saying...
@mickhunt32036 жыл бұрын
Great shooting very impressed with the accuracy smk must have improved their barrel quality because the ones they fitted their qb range the bore wasn't central and accuracy was ok up to about 20yrds and if you took the power up to 11+ ft-lb from the original 8+ft-lb it went out the window still got my th78d even with some barrel work nowhere near as accurate as the artemis
@tomlyth7396 жыл бұрын
received mine today wentto the range i just cant fault pellet on pellet if it was not for this review i would have bought something different. thanks sy.
@VerminHuntersTV6 жыл бұрын
Glad you like it pal.
@tomlyth7396 жыл бұрын
VerminHuntersTV For the price you cant fault it trying to find out if it hasa single shot tray.?
@tomlyth7396 жыл бұрын
got single shot tray from the web.
@VerminHuntersTV6 жыл бұрын
Nice shooting from a budget rifle,well put together Si. Regards Davy
@VerminHuntersTV6 жыл бұрын
You need to come to the new permission Davy in the day. It's like the old dairy farm was for corvids and pigeons, but will squirrel and bunny too. Seen them yesterday.
@aurangzaibkhan93344 жыл бұрын
Nic airgun nic shot
@imrankhan-wt8fn4 жыл бұрын
well done
@ral4466 жыл бұрын
Great shooting Si. Thanks for the review. I don't know if this rifle is available in the states.
@aliverrett69046 жыл бұрын
Richard Lowthian it is available in the states, it's just under a different name. It's the airmax dominator pcp bottle version $579.95 with 2 mags
@ral4466 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this info Ali.
@ABSBARNES6 жыл бұрын
Nice one Si, I like that you get the review out there without spending forever shooting it. Like it mate. I’d love you to do the new FX and daystates. Cheers.
@VerminHuntersTV6 жыл бұрын
ABSBARNES cheers they need to ask us and maybe we could.
6 жыл бұрын
Nice video, good job.
@markhomer76286 жыл бұрын
I recon you could strip that stock down , and stain it too your own taste , probably a bit over the top if you wanted it just for hunting , but " hey " most people like good looking things too be seen out with ... A nice redwood colour would be nice , you could take the stock too an engraver and have it done too your own design ( isn't as expensive as you might think ) but if you just want " grip " because of the lack of stippling , buy what us sports bike riders use on out tanks for leaning off the bike round bends , there called " stomp grips " got a sticky rubbery feel too them ... Stops us falling off our motorcycles when getting our knee round bends ... They also do small sticky " bits and bobs for the same purpose , available from any good motorcycle dealer .... Your gun won't slip out your hands either bare or gloved ... Give em a try ... PS ..the bits and bobs have too be " jell " ones ..the other type are just for tank protection .. the " stomp grip " are all Jell type ... Available in black or clear ... Would look ACE on this rifle
@aboutthemetal87836 жыл бұрын
Try to review the zbroia kozak, very very accurate air rifle, bit like hw100 but in a semi bullpup like the brockocks
@albertopapi44456 жыл бұрын
Greetings! Thank you for your review! I really like that rifle. I do have a question. Do they come with the 400cc bottle? Were or from where I can purchased that rifle with the 400cc bottle? I will appreciated your response. Thank you for taking the time to make so interesting and educational videos!
@philiplewis72526 жыл бұрын
Great video as always and very informative. I have just purchased an,as new M16,not the A but the other type with the air gauge in the front of the air cylinder. It is an excellent rifle and has proved a superb vermin rifle,however i would like to fit a different silencer would you have any recommendations please?
@capatainnemo6 жыл бұрын
thanks for the new vid :)
@craigballantine99866 жыл бұрын
Goes to show cheap Chinese isnt always the case. Plus owd Diana are using them for a range of their rifle too. Love my p15 in .25.
@shanerobinson67766 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of a rapid 7-12 by the looks
@stephengunrunnerhanson35506 жыл бұрын
Shane Robinson that is what I thought a early rapid
@shanerobinson67766 жыл бұрын
stephen gunrunner hanson doesn’t it that square edgy look about it
@stephengunrunnerhanson35506 жыл бұрын
yes to right early rapids but looks good
@shanerobinson67766 жыл бұрын
stephen gunrunner hanson I agree worth having a look bet my brother not like it if not an fx it’s shit lol
@MalikAsad119-x4s6 жыл бұрын
Nice shooting
@brianparker39015 жыл бұрын
Like the videos! Is there a U.S. version of this rifle?
@afzalmusafir6 жыл бұрын
Si kindly make a short review of artemis m16. 22 air rifle sister of diana outlaw please
@VerminHuntersTV6 жыл бұрын
Yes just waiting for it to arrive.
@afzalmusafir6 жыл бұрын
VerminHuntersTV thank's
@carsmax6 жыл бұрын
Hello Si . Where is the pressure gage at this rifle which show me how much air is in the bottle ? I like the gun
@stevehickling74353 жыл бұрын
Bang on youth. Daft price for that performance. Will you be doing a test in 177 si . Cheers duck
@OldNavajoTricks3 жыл бұрын
If you want a darker stock, sand and stain it, get handy with the chisel for chequering whilst you're at it if you want :-p Nice baseline rifle, could be a real favourite to someone willing to tweak to taste.
@carsmax6 жыл бұрын
Hello Si. How do you know how much air is in the buddy bottle ? I didn´t saw a pressure gage , just this one for the regulator!!?
@phillipmendiola12576 жыл бұрын
Is it available in the USA sweet looking pcp airgun , how much does it cost
@neilmoors64156 жыл бұрын
Hi did you have to clean the barrel before you pellet tested si, great video watched it yesterday then went to my local gunshop and picked one up haven't had chance to shoot it yet also what was rev pressure gauge set at in your rifle cheers Neil
@tomlyth7396 жыл бұрын
just ordered one 😁😁😁😁😁😁
@VerminHuntersTV6 жыл бұрын
Nice move.
@derivas0074 жыл бұрын
great review!does it compatible with standart paintball reg like rti priest?
@waynejones34135 жыл бұрын
Artemis M16A or BSA Scorpion SE? What's your Money on ? I have seen the SE for £508
@justabloke69816 жыл бұрын
Interested in this one as a budget starter for my daughter. What app were you using with the Chrony to record fps and lbs?
@johnbp5 жыл бұрын
Hello Si, Nice review, I am looking at getting one of these in FAC.. What laser range finder do you use?
@weirdscience83416 жыл бұрын
I like to use 18ish grain stuff in my PCP rifles the ones u used where what id deem spring rifle weight pellets
@carsmax6 жыл бұрын
Hello Si. Nice vid and great gun !! What will cost a tuning on this rifle when Toni at SWFS does the job?? Can I order this gun at Sandwell FS ? I ask because his home page is under construction, so I can´t find anything! and , what is the different between Stage 1 tuning and Stage 2 ????? Thanks a lot
@VerminHuntersTV6 жыл бұрын
Yes give them a call pal.
@echozz92785 жыл бұрын
where i can buy it?
@MrRockstar19686 жыл бұрын
So which make of pellet was the best?
@aboutthemetal87836 жыл бұрын
Would you say the rifle is as accurate as the brockock bantam hm? Or the compatto target?
@VerminHuntersTV6 жыл бұрын
I would say to 40 yards it probably is if you do your bit but my Compatto Target is quite a few £100s more expensive and hits targets at 100 yards as proven in its review.
@aboutthemetal87836 жыл бұрын
VerminHuntersTV thanks for the reply, I’m waiting on my bantam hm sniper arriving in my local gun shop ( iv ordered and paid for a a hi lite version) Still think my theoben Mfr is the muts nuts , I got 2 , .177 and 22 and they are so pin point, had an fx impact until recently, that’s a rifle I think is over rated , Just can’t wait for my bantam hm, Love the videos to by the way .
@robincormie8556 жыл бұрын
Hi with that being a brand new rifle do you clean the barrel before using,as I have just bought the m30 I thought I would clean the barrel I put about 20 patches through it found it to be really dirty.
@VerminHuntersTV6 жыл бұрын
Yes always clean the barrel on a new rifle.
@johnarmstrong62426 жыл бұрын
@@robincormie855 how do you find the M30 I have the p15 and live it wanting a .25 now and have been looking at the m 30
@chrisrichmond19434 жыл бұрын
Is this virtually the same rifle as the Diana Outlaw? Different Stock, different air bottle, but the action looks very similar as does the magazine configuration (including the requirement to seat the pellets in the mag). Does the action come out of Snow Peak Airguns in China? I’m waiting on the cops to approve the addition of the Outlaw to my Australian firearms license. Comes in at 28-29 foot pounds over here. Good video and I’ve now Sub’d to your channel. Great shooting at the end Mate!
@carlevie53156 жыл бұрын
super duper
@tomlyth7396 жыл бұрын
hi spot on video i have a hw100kt i want to sell so i can get one of these.
@tomlyth7396 жыл бұрын
have you done anymore shooting withthe m16a 😁😁😁😁
@VerminHuntersTV6 жыл бұрын
No mate, i took it back to SFS as it was only on loan
@seankinder43706 жыл бұрын
Hi si. When you print your scope cap calibrations off chairgun how do you get all the numbers in line? Mine prints off with them staggered.
@btcaronop58544 жыл бұрын
Its great airgun how could I buy this gun with scope plush 2000 pallet in Nepal Please give me some idea
@umersiddidy4 жыл бұрын
m16 vs walther rm8. has any body compared them. which one is better bang for buck
@Streetempirewear4 жыл бұрын
Really interested in buying one of these but 2 things bothering me How would you fit a strap or bipod any help would be great
@2010leelee20106 жыл бұрын
Which do u thing r the best pellets to buy
@lfcmarkeb71246 жыл бұрын
if factoring in a scope,pump, and bag it would be in RM8 + phox territory for a kit .hmmmm.
@aeron-mw7ofs5 жыл бұрын
Has it been modified in anyway apart from the trigger setting ?
@willipine18634 жыл бұрын
Diana and Artemis are same brand ?
@martingodfrey20274 жыл бұрын
what scopes are you using please
@ShayanQuanta6 жыл бұрын
How many shots per fill?
@VerminHuntersTV6 жыл бұрын
Lots, but i didn't test it over a full fill.
@сергейстрельников-ы3ш5 жыл бұрын
отличный обзор, спасибо! хочу купить такую винтовку
@jrgenrasmussen88404 жыл бұрын
Diana outlaw 🤔🤔
@hullpestcontrol91626 жыл бұрын
I can't find this rifle like what you are showing they all have cylinders not buddy bottles
@vatatoe4 жыл бұрын
Someone know M16s twist rate?
@vilayatali45596 жыл бұрын
Push the pilet with the pilet. Not with Alne key.
@jacobdad27425 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know why the uk has a 12 fpe max on air rifles?
@EURIPODES5 жыл бұрын
Because they would rather get a face full of acid than get shot. To each his own.
@nigelbase11963 жыл бұрын
10 shot groups show you more than 3... surely?
@gobstoppa16332 жыл бұрын
MINT
@greatsportb53766 жыл бұрын
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@bessiebraveheart6 жыл бұрын
Looks like a bloody railway sleeper. Chinese, not for me.