The Artist Who BEAT Cancellation In The Twitter Art Community

[@MohammedAgbadi]

*_tell me something nice that has happened to you this year so far_*

[@Linnzy]

I got a job. Npt a great job but it pays the bills, and gives me something extra for fun also most of the pplnI work with are great and fyn and understanding.

[@Mushie150]

My art got better

[@Aubrey-o5o]

I got in to college

[@presentexchange5108]

I went to the gym and played basketball, liked it more then I thought i would.

[@abbyelectric]

I've gotten an offer for a university! it's not the one I want to go to the most, but it's also the first offer I've gotten so that's pretty exciting!

[@Pascanchik.]

Butch is the definition of “You know when I was a kid I used to think you were cool”

[@MohammedAgbadi]

😭😭😭

[@tikimillie]

I men i was banned from watching cartoon network as a kid so i have no nostalgia for butchman

[@yulee3266]

@@tikimilliehis shows were on nickeloedeon

[@Pascanchik.]

@@tikimillie damn why were you banned from watching it tho?

[@poweroffriendship2.0]

_"I used to think you were cool."_ *~ Muscle Man*

[@MiyaMam948]

Better help is a bad sponsor! They don’t use licensed therapists!!

[@Dryworms]

Thank you for pointing that out, as soon I heard therapy my heart dropped ☹️‼️

[@GreiH]

They also don't follow HIPPA.

[@shallmow]

But they use licensed spying software to sell your private data to other companies tho 😊

[@BonzikillBeach]

wait how do you know

[@GreiH]

@BonzikillBeach well, they have class action lawsuits against them, and they owe the FTC $7.8 million

[@weebmaster]

Hey I just wanted to say that the Trans flag burning comm is misinformed. Antoons had commed him to draw his characters holding a burning flag and then antoons colored it to the trans flag to get him in trouble. We saw the original and antoons admitted to it

[@BrocksJellyFilledDoughnuts]

Smh the lengths people will go to feel important.

[@bigjok3929]

That's really shitty

[@inspectorspinda]

sounds right. i feel like old republicans dont even know there is a trans flag or what it looks like

[@NekoShadow13]

I was going to say that, among many bad things that Hartman has done, he is not guilty of that specific one.

[@redfrog1628]

Damn, makes sense though. That Antoons guy is a scummy person from what I've seen. I'm glad he didn't actually draw that, even if he didn't know what it represented he would've known better.

[@catinacafe7105]

Twitter is the only place where I walk away hating both the person who calls someone out and the person in question equally lol

[@MohammedAgbadi]

lmfaooo this is the most relatable comment!!

[@BrocksJellyFilledDoughnuts]

Right? 😭 It's so unbearable.

[@sb792079]

And then tiktok is like twitter but you can hear them 😭

[@christopherthibeault7502]

I feel the same way around the tabletop gaming community. I hate having to call it out for its bullshit and then I feel horrible inside--at least in terms of knowing how others will react. It lifts a weight off my chest for saying it, though--that's probably why they do anything like this whether the accusation is true or not.

[@BrocksJellyFilledDoughnuts]

@@christopherthibeault7502 I knew a Yu-Gi-Oh card player and he was an awful person to be up against, so I get what you mean. Didn't like losing, constantly accused others of cheating with no proof. It's scary knowing there's more than one of this kind of person. My deepest condolences bro.

[@FOF275]

The weirdest thing about Butch's art is that it's never on point. It always looks like someone trying to draw the Danny Phantom or Fairly Odd Parents style instead of someone who drew it regularly

[@Trefox87]

I heard that Danny Phantom and likely fairly Odd Parents both were largely designed by another artist, thus why Butch struggles to stay stylistically consistent. It's a more refined version of how he used to draw that he never really got good at himself to be able to use for anything other than a loose attempt at other designs and styles. Plus, it doesn't look like he really cares about making good stills, just getting a storyboard style of splattering the idea on the page and calling it done that doesn't really jive with a still image that you see for more than 3 seconds. I really noticed that when he was doing those Danny Phantom 10 years later drawings on KZbin a while back, where a bunch of design flaws are super apparent because he is just drawing without having any base to work from and having the faces be misaligned and not really figuring out how the limbs will connect until he's drawing the gadgets going up and down each arm or leg

[@Hanako-Kun-t9b]

@@Trefox87 Danny Phantom's character designs were made by a man named Stephen Silver. He did the designs for Kim Possible too.

[@FOF275]

@@Trefox87 That makes sense I guess Though it's disingenuous of him to make it out like he did most of the work

[@notatallfunctional]

@@Hanako-Kun-t9b He also has a great KZbin channel where he talks about art

[@sonnic1995]

that's because those aren't his style, he did create the shows, but the design process was done by different people, Butch really just tried to adopt it as his main because that what the shows are known for, his art style is his ugly neon colored pieces he does on instagram, and still some of those are traced

[@carziecat]

Love the video but disappointed to see creators still promoting betterhelp. At this point it's hard to believe anyone doesn’t know what they've done

[@midamasceno7610]

uh... what have they done??

[@airena1449]

@@midamasceno7610 many have had negative experiences with betterhelp this video explains it better kzbin.info/www/bejne/aJLNq5R9qc6ff6ssi=Rc03gt9lNZkshA0W

[@GreiH]

They don't follow HIPPA for one, and apparently they weren't making sure the therapists were licensed. Also, some people apparently had their "therapists" bully them instead of help them.

[@fionna_cool_girl]

I thought this too

[@the_homun_system]

​@@midamasceno7610you can look up betterhelp ftc investigation to see how much they got fined for selling patient info to advertisers

[@holy.diever]

Please drop betterhelp as a sponsor. How has the entire internet collectively forgotten what happened with them not that long ago??

[@Lil_Polonez]

he probably still has the ongoing sponsorship to fulfill, otherwise he'd be sued by the company for failing to complete it.

[@holy.diever]

​@Lil_Polonez idk man others seem to have dropped them just fine. I cant imagine his is much different of a contract than theirs

[@cosandk]

​@holy.diever did they drop them or did they fulfill their contract? I absolutely LOATHE BH, as someone goin into that field myself, but i try to give people the benefit of the doubt as we dont know whats going on behind the scenes. He may be tryin to find a way to drop them, or maybe he only has one more vid he has to sponser with them and just wants to get it over it.

[@holy.diever]

@cosandk i believe at least one guy i watch dropped them mid contract. He hadn't gotten paid for all of the vids yet, though, so that might be the difference. I hope that's true here, and we won't have to see more of that company. But i have a hard time trusting it, considering a lot of people just dont care and will take the money anyway. I have nothing against youtubers being sponsored and getting money but its their responsibility to keep their community safe from things like this that have a history of leading to REAL WORLD harm of real people.

[@peaslice2]

I don't know what incident your talking about but my mom ( a social worker/therapist ) randomly brought up one day after I said she should work for them, said " oh yeah they took my name and job info including pictures of me and pasted them on their website " likeee, they just take people's info ig 😭

[@madamii]

Not the Betterhelp sponsorship

[@LarnuuWorks]

Noooo, a better help ad ☹️

[@ShadamyLover15]

Stephen Silver. That's all I'm gonna say. He's the real artist behind all of Butch's shows

[@jhonmaverick9963]

Stephen Silver mostly worked on Danny Phantom. It was Ernie Gilbert that gave Butches shows it's iconic look and style. He was the lead character designer for both Fairly Odd Parents and TUFF Puppy.

[@THATBrokeAroSpecWallet]

Yeah, he also seems pretty chill. Wish he'd get more support for his work instead of Butch, (even if Butch wrote the shows,) (Btw this is his channel link cause why not youtube.com/@StephenSilver?si=tpMs1_4CPvh9Oyoi)

[@mk-aka-morgan8386]

Seeing you do a BetterHelp sponsorship after everything they’ve done broke my heart 🥺

[@yannlefrenchycat8642]

maybe he doesnt know what they have done...

[@lazarus3100]

@@yannlefrenchycat8642 what have they done?

[@Stargazer_Ley]

Kinda surprised you didn't mention the Kuro incident. Where he worked with a fan to do some og work and didn't pay the guy. (Kuro is awesome btw really cool guy)

[@MohammedAgbadi]

i tried to keep this video just focused on the tracing incidents 😭😭😭

[@Stargazer_Ley]

@@MohammedAgbadi with the thumbnail of cancelled one might expect more but fair.

[@KaylaKasel]

Is this TheInkTank Kuro?

[@Stargazer_Ley]

@@KaylaKasel yes

[@JaneValentine007]

Somehow i knew there was somethin inktank related somewhere-

[@tillaxrat1304]

13:20 Butch didn’t agree to draw that, the og guy commissioned his character to be holding a blank burning flag and when he received it he edited on the trans flag. It doesn’t discount both if the guys actions and views, I’m just saying that Butch making that drawing is partially false.

[@GenuinelyGamingRn]

Kinda bad how that Antoons guy basically made it look like Butch drew it tho

[@NoobBlx]

The Mikasa drawing is a classic

[@MohammedAgbadi]

instant art community classic fr.....shit has mad lore

[@UnLancheroMuyPenudo]

​@@MohammedAgbadiwtf😮

[@saintbrush4398]

Better Help is literally unregulated, unlicenced therapy. Why are you still promoting it?

[@senittoaoflightning4404]

Money. Some people take sponsorships without doing any backgroundchecks.

[@savvywavvy2934]

if he has a contract to them for sponsorships and he drops them without fulfilling his side of the contract, he can get sued

[@saintbrush4398]

@@savvywavvy2934 😟

[@M1rFortune]

Like discord

[@FillaneAmmisto]

Just a heads up on the transphobic comm for Antoons. Butch just drew the character, not the flag. The burning flagg was later added by Antoons himself

[@seyspectra]

@@MagcargoManIf you just called being trans a „cancerous ideology“ then yes, you are indeed being transphobic.

[@Halo2glitchlover22]

@@MagcargoMan no, but the looney toons out there would make you think it is. We’re living in clown world after all.

[@toadsage8965]

@@Halo2glitchlover22what did they say?

[@chaken6187]

"The higher role you are, the worse you are at judging people who aren't in that role." I found this on internet

[@crybabyteej]

11:40 been an artist for 20+ years, I don't and never will understand why people complain about their prices while comparing their work to another artist. Screw Butch, there's a bigger conversation to be had that artists refuse to charge what they are actually worth and instead opt into lowering their prices because they were essentially bullied to. I charge base prices starting at $350 because 1) I know my worth 2) I make sure to include an hourly pay 3) I also include costs for materials and 4) I include my level of experience since I do hyper detailed work that takes me days to finish. Haven't heard a complaint from any of my past clients and those who complain about my prices-I just laugh and tell them to go else where if they have a complaint. Irks me to my core that the art community complains about this issue while simultaneously shooting themselves in the foot. Being an independent artist is like someone starting up their own company. You won't have a lot of customers but as long as you maintain your quality, you will eventually find people willing to pay what you're worth and word of mouth will spread as to the type of artist you are and hopefully you have good customer service that help aids you. You will struggle at the start, being an artist doesn't make you anything special nor different from any other person starting up their own business like lawn care. You have to build your reputation too like any other independent business person.

[@Artistjames2330]

oh thats a good tip

[@T3Z1993]

I just saw this after posting a similar comment. So glad I’m not the only one taking issue with how some creatives drop their prices to the floor in order to attract more work. My personal belief is that it actually harms other creatives, and ultimately undermines those who are trying to make a living in this space. I knew when I set out on this journey to be an artist that I would be playing the long game..and if that means turning down a few projects that offer little to no pay, then so be it. I pick projects that I value, and businesses that value my time and skillset.

[@phoenix2gaming346]

true

[@mysryuza]

As someone who grew up in the same neighborhood he studied in his teen years, I actually met him irl in school and got an autograph and somehow made a fangirl squeal I never thought I could have the courage to do publicly. I remember seeing his drawings on the marker board and I still have a photo of it on my phone. This was before the controversy thing was taking storm and it feels so weird remembering it nowadays. I don’t regret getting an autograph, as I still have it, but my view towards him definitely changed. I’m just ashamed and disappointed in him. I’m surprised to see this video posted recently because I was just looking up stuff about him a day or two before this was posted Btw, Better Help sponsorship?? My dude, this ain’t it.

[@totallyrealspiderman]

I definitely recommend questioning things you see online though! Especially when it comes to twitter. People there often blow things out of proportion and even fake evidence to get white knight points. The only thing he did wrong was charge $200 for a commission he heavily referenced. Antoons added the trans flag after butch drew the commission. So I think you can still keep that autograph (and memory) in good faith :)

[@No_Named_Nobody]

Oh oh! Dont forget the 'your art criticism isn't valid unless you're in the industry' I think that's the one that made me the most upset. Like, dude, there are artists everywhere... they have good advice.

[@jhonmaverick9963]

To those wondering why Butch's art style in his commissions look way off from the more iconic look of his shows. It's because the styles actually came from different artists: Stephen Silver and Ernie Gilbert respectively. Stephen Silver was mostly responsible for Danny Phantom while Ernie Gilbert is the true artist behind Fairly Odd Parents visual style. I'm pretty much apathetic towards Mr. Hartman at this point. However, I feel It's high time Ernie Gilbert received the recognition that he's been long overdue.

[@FOF275]

This's good of example of the internet not equalling real life. Sure, some people don't like him online, but fans who don't know or don't care about that still support him and he's just moved on

[@Lutherstrode17492]

Yeah, sadly.

[@Team_AWFUL]

1:00 funny thing is that. He wasn't even designed the characters, executive producers looked at his designs and said that "his designs wasn't matching the overall theme of show" and Butch Hartman still trash talks about MLP to this day, because his art-style was "too Hanna-Barbarian"

[@allanredhill8682]

Butch is the hero we didnt want, nor deserved but definitely needed. If this guy can make it - my art career is already a done deal lmfao

[@vanillathebard]

Surprised you didnt bring up the new Danny Phantom comic book while talking about that fandom though.

[@MohammedAgbadi]

oohh i wanted to just keep it around the tracing callouts

[@gingeralice3858]

tbh Butch isn't so bad when you look at other big names in the industry and Hollywood in general. The people saying he's a horrible person who makes them sick need to look up John K (the guy behind Ren and Stimpy.) Now HE had ISSUES....

[@jocelynecupcake]

Butch Hartman, Dan Schnieder and John K are all bad but Dan and John need to be in prison

[@nichtdeutsch]

The Rayman music during the first minute (and probably more) is iconic. I haven't played that in forever.

[@MohammedAgbadi]

yessss loved rayman alot!

[@skootergirl22]

Origins

[@aliencatmeow]

noooo not betterhelp again? why?

[@diamondsanchez224]

When you have a ton of money and credentials within any big industry, it's often very difficult to be "cancelled." Butch couldn't get away with 99% of the shit he's pulled in the past few years if he were just a KZbinr or a Twitter/IG artist. Sadly, no matter how awful his behavior is, he's a wealthy professional cartoonist within the industry, so he could just get away with it.

[@polarfarina2726]

I get that this video is just focusing on one aspect, but there is a huge iceberg of stuff Butch has done or said over the years that's questionable, or general controversies he's gotten into. From choosing to wait to mention Oaxis' religious ties until after being funded, him banning fans from his discord server for simply mentioning accidental lgbtq coding in his shows, footage of him on a podcast where he guilt trips the Timmy turner VA about another VA's real actual tragic death, to refusing to pay people he's commissioned work from, to him refusing to acknowledge the team behind successful shows he takes all the credit for and patting himself on the back instead... In Danny Phantom fan spaces he's known at the very least for being cringe. He used to cling to the relevancy that Danny Phantom has kind of maintained; starting comment arguments about the theme song wording ("young Danny phantom" vs "yo Danny phantom"), trying to retcon established plotlines to make DP into something more comic book esque, creating new ghost characters and relatives to Danny as recently as four years ago. I remember once a fan saw his twitter pfp and said the style was pretty egotistical (exaggeratedly "handsome" features) so he ended up changing his pic to a fuzzy, squished, less detailed version. In general it seems he has a history of caring a lot about staying relevant, to the point he didn't care about looking ridiculous as long as he could get people talking about him and his work. I will say that most of these points are a bit dated, I haven't really been keeping an eye on him since 2020. If he's going in a new, healthier direction, that would be awesome. I still wouldn't want him to be in charge of that rumored live action Danny Phantom movie though dvdjfjjfb

[@polarfarina2726]

Some fans call him "Bitch Fartman" cause they find him so cringe. Butch is also a stage name of some kind, and his non-stage name is Elmer, so some fans call him that as well. I have a friend who used to run a fake social media account pretending to be the guy and they got so much hate mail daily. Regardless of how cringe he's been he does have a lot of vitriol he's had to face over the years.

[@daisyteto877]

@@polarfarina2726Butch Hartman once said that autism could be cured through prayer in what I think was during a church conference. 🤦 As an Autistic person myself this is really ableist and disgusting to hear. It can’t be cured through prayer nor could be cured at all. I wonder if he supports autism speaks.

[@l1feisstressful-dp7ze]

18:20 shul've just stuck with the 2d, I thought we have already been over how the fairly odd parents art style doesn't translate well into 3d with the jimmy timmy power hour

[@Mushie150]

I was literally just binge watching all your videos then this comes up and o screamed with joy

[@MohammedAgbadi]

hahah thankyou!! 🖤

[@skootergirl22]

Wait better help is still sponsoring

[@idreadFell365]

Oh no, he’s being sponsored be betterhelp.

[@roromimii]

This is old news yet the fact you never brought up the Trans Flag was actually edited by Antoons and you just kinda giving off misinfo on Butch. I dun like the guy but boi.. do better research and same goes for Better Help sponsor. :/

[@poweroffriendship2.0]

Antoon has always been a controversial figure on this platform and that's what happens when culture war does to a person. That is no surprise considering that this is the same guy who also made an infamous comic on making fun of George Floyd.

[@Lazymills]

So... I was a director on the FOP: A new wish. We only saw him like once in the studio tbh.

[@hyraemous]

Nahhh I didn't know my tweet showed up here 😅 cheers man 15:45

[@the_homun_system]

as an autistic im automatically against butch "my wife can pray away the autism" on everything he does (but no one but autistics really care about how thats not okay.) speaking of not okay taking betterhelp money without looking up the company you are promoting... an average civilian promoting something has less responsibility to assess the risks since they dont have an audience outside of single digits.. get paid i guess but whatever. pretty disappointing...

[@unacceptablelobster1678]

Life lesson. Like I learned growing up with Ren and Stimpy as my favorite show as a kid. Don't look into your favorite animators. It's so easy to do now compared to the early 90's, just don't do it, plausible deniability is a thing for a reason. Don't look behind the curtain and ruin an entire crews worth of work.

[@StormEscape]

This isn’t bout the video, but rather the sponsor. I don’t understand why so many creators are still accepting better help as a sponsor. All for creators making money, but betterhelp is sketchy af. Like I really want to know if creators are actually using betterhelp or if they are just saying that? Cause you never tend to actually hear their experience on a base level. Edit: didn’t realize so many people already mentioned this but oh well.

[@Tommy_Wimmer]

I was very confused when Tara Strong was fired from the role of Timmy, only to return as Poof.

[@caseyloomis2168]

The art that he is accused of tracing is of people from very simple poses. You're bound to come up with the same poses for the same characters, considering they have iconic poses. About his commissions, you're not paying $200 for art, you're paying for art from him. Art is a status symbol, that's why it's $200.

[@sunlessrose8848]

That's something that I thought about too and LOTS of artists copy poses but sometimes it's seems like it's okay if certain artists copy but if another does the same thing, suddenly they're being attacked. It makes it really hard for people to use popular art as references without being accused of stealing...

[@caseyloomis2168]

@@sunlessrose8848 All true.

[@petthequeenofmaddness8592]

@@caseyloomis2168 it's the layover so stuff being copied line for line pretty much

[@caseyloomis2168]

@@petthequeenofmaddness8592 Who do you say is copying when multiple references show the same character in the same pose and sometimes even in the same clothes?

[@petthequeenofmaddness8592]

@@caseyloomis2168 I said line for line, just because the pose and outfit match or even if it's the same character they shouldn't match line for line there are different ways to sit, talk and run there should be some differing's but no it was line for line like an ms paint mlp art base used to make oc's

[@wwm84]

3:08 No no, we need that video essay about leaving classics as classics.

[@NicmationS_YT]

I saw one podcast and he was terrible to tara strong saying he wished the other actress was still alive all Tara could do was awkwardly laugh

[@MohammedAgbadi]

oooooohh i remember that clip

[@Dazyhead]

It was worse. He said the original voice actress committed suicide because Tara strong did the voice after the pilot

[@NicmationS_YT]

@@Dazyhead That I didn't remember just damn that's terrible

[@AA-rr9ly]

Twitter is just toxic. Most of these users aren't even artists calling his work "traced" referencing is different from tracing. I don't understand artists themselves comparing their work to his when it's literally a different art style and no that doesn't make you better. I believe his commissions are priced high because he's already a big name in the industry. His commissions are more like autographs in my opinion, like a novelty item where you get a drawing from your favorite cartoonist to heal your inner child.

[@icecreamhero2375]

I know right also that Dib drawing wasn't a commission. It was a screenshot from the video Invader Zim in the Fairly Odd Parents style. It was a quick sketch of Dib meeting Crocker and Crocker was cropped out the photo.

[@AA-rr9ly]

@@icecreamhero2375 i didnt know this! Butch Hartman gets a lot of unnecessary hate for being an artist, crazy af. Im willing to bet the haters are the younger generation who probably never watched his shows.

[@icecreamhero2375]

@@AA-rr9ly A lot of the hate is overblown. I will admit Oaxis was a bit shady. I would like to believe they simply bit off more than they could chew and it fell apart rather than Butch trying to scam people. I still like him and his work. There are actual bad people.

[@cloudirubez07]

While Butch is no saint and I do think his commissions are quite absurd for the price (if not some even traced and not even in the right style), it really does show you how much these people have a high horse when they self-promo against an entirely different style and use this situation purely for their own gain 😭 I understand the $200 issue but it really does make me think that someone did that just to promote their raunchy artwork or get their ego massaged, some things never change. Besides that I just hate Twitter too, absolutely horrendous website with loads of people who are either degenerates or the most radical people in the world-it’s like there’s no in-between with them. Talking to a Twitter user is like talking to a brick wall, except the brick wall is armed with turrets.

[@AA-rr9ly]

@@cloudirubez07 i think $200 for his novelty drawings is quite reasonable. He is a big name in the industry. After all, do people not pay millions of dollars for a couple of paint splotches on a canvas calling it “abstract” art?

[@Jelid_Official]

Ah yes, *Butch* He used to be my inspiration when I started animating

[@MohammedAgbadi]

he was everyone's hero...still is i believe

[@tyhill111]

Wait, so you're telling me that "cancelling" is just a different word for "cyber bullying" and has little to no real world affect on people as big as Butch Hartman?

[@MohammedAgbadi]

lmfaoooooo!!!! that's the neat part! it doesn't

[@kaylemathewcomendador6964]

I think the term your looking for is “getting boo’d at online”. That’s basically what canceling means these days.

[@inarachan]

betterhelp is not a good sponsor man

[@DigitalinDaniel]

I heard that trans-flag thing was faked, Hartman drew it all but with a blank flag or something and buyer colored it to look like the trans-flag or something like that. The Mikasa doesn't look traced at all, but he definitely used that or a similar image as reference cause he probably didn't even know what Attack on Titan was. In the same defense I have to say even masters like Aaron Blaise essentially copy a reference all the time, when Aaron did the 100 Years of Disney most of them were straight from the reference and he's a Disney animator, you can't remember all that shit in your head even when the exact topic was your profession.

[@kiragamer7520]

umm... seriously? THAT'S your consensus? that he's our "favorite childhood hero" and that we're excited to see more from him? fuck nah

[@middawnfox]

Please google better help. Don't take sponsorships from unethical companies, please.

[@meria2082]

A good rule of thumb is that if it sounds too good to be true, it’s probably not true

[@andresochoaacevedo4494]

Calling Drew Danny, lovely reference haha

[@GummiBearzchan]

What People fail to realize that for most of butch hartmans shows he wasn't even the actual character designer. Stephen silver and other people are the designers of his characters.

[@majimadayoyoyo]

Twitter be like: Butch Hartman drama. Artists compared their art to him then insert self-promotion. 🤣

[@lunayen]

It's funny how no one noticed that.

[@teentitansrock88]

Was not expecting the sonic gem stage music and absolutely got whiplashed back into playing the genesis.

[@piepie3799]

2:04 omg Rayman OST in background 😂😂😂

[@MohammedAgbadi]

yes!!!!!!! omg! no one has noticed when i use rayman music

[@sixmph]

3:13 LMAOOO i loved the drew gooden and danny gonzalez joke ❤❤

[@artsbyana]

Without your video reports on art community id probably never know half on the drama that's going on🤣 great video as always💜

[@MohammedAgbadi]

hahaha Thank you so much Anna! 😀

[@christina22klol12]

Isn't it ironic how it's always the people that we don't expect it from to do that one thing that destroys their whole career lmao. Still tho, I feel like both butch and the ones accusing him went wrong. I mean it's twitter we are talking about.

[@lawrencelopez9839]

why better help though

[@Kyuubey0406]

why not better help

[@poweroffriendship2.0]

The question is: How Better Help though?

[@Wennymoon]

I've heard that better help doesn't use licensed therapists so this question is pretty valid

[@MOMOHEARTS]

Everytime I hear about this man I always look at my art and relax on how much I decided on my commissions.

[@elizabethsusanlibra]

Great video but I cannot get past the Rayman Origins OST as the background music. 😭

[@dsdude8441]

13:11 Ok, not defending Butch for anything else, but he did not draw that. The actual drawing he made was of Anton Burning a blank white flag, Anton made it a trans flag afterwards to stir drama. Again, Butch is terrible, but if you want to criticize him, do so for things he actually did.

[@spiritretro3571]

dinky dinosaur looks a LOT like land before times with slightly differant look

[@yikesitsconnor]

PLEASE drop betterhelp. They are so harmful and dangerous in so many ways!

[@cordleil2747]

I really like your vids because it has a humane tone to it. Most people covering drama on twitter just takes a side and bashes the person but, you give the benefit of the doubt and dont shove your ideals down our throat. Its just nice watching something without propaganda. Thank you.

[@pinkbuninja6536]

No offense, but Fairy Odd Parents was one of the shows I looked at as a kid over 10 years ago and thought “if this is on tv, then I can make a cartoon.”

[@jocelynecupcake]

IKR I grew up with Qubo and Sprout, and I kind of thought of Fairy odd parents as an "ugly" show. Like, I never enjoyed watching it. I kind of watched it when there was nothing else on. The actual good shows were Kipper, Scaredy Squirrel, and Marvin the tap dancing horse (If you haven't heard of the last one, look it up! it's amazing)

[@thatminer66]

**looks at "traced" work** **looks at original work** for a traced work, the proportions ain't even shit. It's referenced. and a bad attempt too. Also kinda hate the fact the the word "traced" is becoming a blanket term in these cases, where even if I trace it, it won't even align.

[@Cherri_flavor]

"From the great and almighty"💀

[@MohammedAgbadi]

💀💀💀

[@Cherri_flavor]

Im sorry, I can't take this seriously💀

[@EALM95]

I recommend you Steven Silver's courses more, the real artist and designer behind the 'butch hartman' style. I also hear that the art of the burning trans flag was actually commissioned as a white flag, and the commissioner colored in the trans colors.

[@MegaBleedman]

Of course he's working on the reboot, he desperately wants to live the glory days. Honestly at this point not one really cares.

[@myhandlehasbeenmishandled]

Re. the first image of Mikasa, that not tracing. Coping at worst. And in my opinion not even a copy. His version, while not in his style, was still very unique. Just to note. I have no clue who this guy is and never watched his work. I'm 40. I grew up in 1980s. I studied animation, and got 2 useless degrees in area of animation and cinema. So, just my 2 cents. There are 2 issues. The first is if he didn't deliver what customer asked for. That's up to customer to decide. The second issue is how much he charges for what he delivers. That was way too much. He is clearly up-charging because of his fame.

[@civyart]

For those who want to know, beginning at 0:50, the name of the soundtrack is Yaschas Massif from Final Fantasy 13.

[@owencmyk]

This is really shitty, but there's one piece of "evidence" I don't agree with. I don't think being paid to draw a trans flag burning makes him transphobic. He might unrelatedly be transphobic, I'm not sure. But if you're paid to draw something, that drawing should not be used as evidence of your morals. Most people would do things against their morals for enough money, especially if it isn't directly harming anybody

[@Tee_Person]

wait Hartman... Cartman...OH MY GOD i get it now!

[@coltonk.3086]

Don't forget his monster of an ego.

[@neolordie]

DO NOT PROMOTE BETTER HELP they're really shitty

[@Igl0085]

frrr

[@laughoutloud6846]

Calling him a professional artist is a bit of an exaggeration now isn't it?

[@kingcockroach.]

A bunch of people threatened to have me cancelled...........im shocked it didnt happen. Was pretty traumatic

[@PizzA_TimE]

I thought those people kept putting that picture of Dib next to their great art to say “I poor my soul out into my art!“ and then one of them is that picture of Dib that looks goofy af 😢😅

[@veronicaangst]

I have this primal urge to commission him to draw one of my Ocs just to laugh my nonexistent ass off about it because one, there will be no references online and two, they’re literal cinnamonroll so he won’t be able to rely on the usual grumpy expression 👍

[@Hi_My_Names_Ryan]

Any artist can charge any price for any art. Especially if its not a trace. He's wrong for tracing but you dont HAVE to pay 200$😂

[@Hi_My_Names_Ryan]

And by tracing i mean chraging for heavily referenced or copied art. I always reference but I dont charge

[@mrpickles-hb6zx]

Any price for any art is ridiculous💀

[@lukeskywalker2]

The pinnacle of butch was someone tricking him into drawing shadman

[@jcmillzmusic8768]

Tbf, he has a larger name behind his art. Also, knowing his artstyle was simplistic in the first place, what were people expecting from a commission? Tracing aside, you could probably make more money off the commission if you resell it to die hard fans.

[@thejackal9834]

I've drawn better quality free requests than that...Shit, I should start charging people.

[@smajin28]

This guy has never heard of Ken Penders.

[@supernew10doh64]

Not to defend Butch Hartman or anything but that Mikasa picture really doesn't look like it's traced. It definitely looks like he referenced that picture when drawing it like maybe he had the picture up on his phone or something and is trying his best to replicate it the way the face is drawn and the way the body is drawn don't really look like it was traced over definitely the same pose and even the hair is in a similar if not exact same position so it's definitely referenced at least. edit: Haha i actually made this comment before seeing the rest of your video so I didn't see that you commented on this stuff lol oops😅

[@RipperRoo92]

Butch Hartman did not trace other people's artworks. Butch is obviously used other artworks as references. I am convinced that Butch Hartman doesn't even know the anime characters people request and just searched Google for references and created them in his own style. People don't know reference a character to your art style and completely tracing someone artwork and style image by image AKA Tracing. Never believe a loony with no eyebrows on tiktok.

[@smc9098]

Butch Hartman vs 'this twitter user' - reason why he get to charge more...

[@Safirasama]

So many impactful work during the years and people just cancel him for a couple of overpriced drawings and small drama? People are cruel in the art community, really. It is easy to forget how aggressive people are actually. About the price - it's totally normal regarding his career path. No one from the artists that critiqued him are famous cartoonist with the several award winning shows. The price includes not only an actual work. My point is: people are unfair sometimes. I am glad he is ok.

[@rofidel178]

It's his behaviour that people didn't like, then after that the art community went after his work, nobody learned how to separate the art from the artist apparently

[@AlexanderFromTheStarDimension]

Not gonna lie, I actually genuinely like Butch's interpretations of both Mikasa and Rin Chan. I paused the video and took a few minutes to gauge all the discrepancies between the reference photo and his drawing. I admit, those commissions were 150% egregiously overpriced to just be over-referenced and 80% copies; but again, I like what little creative liberties he did take. I think it took SOME level of talent to redraw the anime style, presumably from scratch. The proportions differ, the poses slightly differ. Rin Chan's hand holding the kettle seemed to be unique; and Butch added some gear for Mikasa that wasn't in the original. If these two commissions were a quarter of the price, and Butch credited the inspiration artists in his social media posts, I'd say the criticism is unwarranted. So yeah... I liked those two redraws by Butch, but I can kind of understand where the Twitter outrage came from.

[@charliepea]

Butch Hartman is the embodiment of the "you die as a hero, or live long enough as a villain" meme. I feel slapped when one of my childhood shows was created by a then scammer. His newer art style is such a downgrade from the former like, he used to work for the industry with that 200 art? :/

[@_Kuma_]

Aside from the possible tracing, that first AOT comm doesn’t even look good… certainly not $200 or by a professional artist 😬 the eyes aren’t even close to being even

[@TheEggPaladin]

Moral of the story: NEVER join twitter! Thank you 👍🤣

[@LeeroyGoldmane]

13:18 well for one butch hartman didint do that antoons did that and said butch did that

[@Th3Overthink3r]

I tried better help, and I therapied the therapyst. 0/10, do not recommend.

[@cosandk]

Hes still active on tiktok. He only stopped on Twitter cuz thats where he was getting hate. His TikTok comments, surprisingly, dont know whata going on (tiktok usually is filled with hate so this is shocking lol)

[@CrackerManga]

I think the mikasa one might have been used as reference cause you can still see huge differences but it’s just my opinion.

[@CrackerManga]

Can’t say the same for the others.

[@l1feisstressful-dp7ze]

12:30 do they have eyebrows? because I can't tell and it's making me kinda uncomfortable to look at them for too long to figure it out