The Atheist Experience 835: Matt Dillahunty Flies Solo

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The Atheist Experience TV 835 for October 13, 2013 with Matt Dillahunty. Matt flies solo and spends the episode taking viewer calls.
SHOW TIME-STAMPS
01:12- Intro & Announcements - Matt Dillahunty
02:36- Kyle: Sam Harris and Daniel Dennett's views on free will
11:23- Kevin (theist): near-death experiences as evidence of an afterlife
28:33- Jonathan (theist): the atheist worldview, atheists cannot have one-hundred percent certainty, free will
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@philipinchina
@philipinchina 3 жыл бұрын
Watching this 8 years after it was broadcast. "Old but ever new". Thanks Matt.
@everydaydubs1713
@everydaydubs1713 3 жыл бұрын
"If I ain't seen it, its new to me!" -Charles Manson
@49perfectss
@49perfectss 5 жыл бұрын
Kevin it has been two years. The study found that there was no evidence for out of body experiences. Thanks for playing lol
@49perfectss
@49perfectss 4 жыл бұрын
@kyle lindsey I did actually haha. Set an alarm on my phone to remember
@rrpostalagain
@rrpostalagain 3 жыл бұрын
@@49perfectss Parnia, the guy he quotes, is now saying that NDE experiences are probably illusory. This just means Kevin won’t use him in his arguments anymore, not that it will affect his opinion. He seems pretty sure that “every single time” they “only” see dead people. Well, except for those other times. Honestly, it’s as though the guy didn’t bother to even look at anything that doesn’t agree with him from the outset.
@philosopher0076
@philosopher0076 3 жыл бұрын
@@rrpostalagain Bullshit. Please show evidence for your claim. Parnia a decade ago assumed NDEs were " illusory " but after he researched further and after he finished the several year AWARE study, he stated they are NOT illusory. And I quote Parnia, "This experience, that Kate [mentioned] about this sensation of external visual awareness, there's always been a debate - is this illusory? Is it real? Or is it something people are imagining," he says And in this study, we were able to demonstrate for the first time that actually this experience is real, that it occurs. And it occurs at a time when the heart had stopped in some people, which is quite paradoxical, because at that time, what we understand is the brain stops functioning or is highly dysfunctional. So how can people have conscious awareness and recollections of memories? How does the self continue even though you are at the brink of death and your brain has shut down? It's quite remarkable. And our research was able to demonstrate that." Show me now, where he CURRENTLY has changed his stance and believes NDEs are illusory. Well rrpostalagain?
@rrpostalagain
@rrpostalagain 3 жыл бұрын
@@philosopher0076 Honestly, if you want to believe stupid shit… go ahead. Some days I just can’t bring myself to fight about make believe baby talk. Fine, we all live in faerie castles when we die,. Whatever. I gotta go to work.
@the-trustees
@the-trustees 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome. You could hear his own admission that even he knew that nothing was going to come to light from these "experiments" through his demeanor and language... he just REALLY REALLY wants it to be true. 🙄
@garychap8384
@garychap8384 5 жыл бұрын
Debating Matt on his own is like facing a panel of experts. You're not arguing with the man... you're arguing with over a thousand years of science, logic, ethics and philosophy.
@Thormp1
@Thormp1 5 жыл бұрын
If the god of the bible had been portrayed as a king instead of a God , he would be remembered as the most evil, mass murdering, tyrannical dictator of all time! Christians give the bible god a free pass because, they say, he is god the creator. I don't see the difference whether man or god. If his actions were evil or immoral, as the bible states, then he'd be just as guilty of being evil as any human committing the same deeds.
@brettwinstead
@brettwinstead 4 жыл бұрын
Well said
@reprobateminds7097
@reprobateminds7097 5 жыл бұрын
My right ear was flying solo lol
@MilkyWayGalaxyy
@MilkyWayGalaxyy 3 жыл бұрын
As much as Matt annoys me with his quick hang ups, swearing, monopolizing the conversation with literally every caller, etc. He is by far the most knowledgeable, charismatic and entertaining host!! He made this show what it is. If I was in a religious debate with high stakes like on primitive TV against the top Christian speakers, I would pick Matt even over Dawkins, Hitchens and Sam Harris! Matt knows his stuff about the Bible and science.
@Paroxysm9
@Paroxysm9 5 жыл бұрын
One man army
@NxDoyle
@NxDoyle 5 жыл бұрын
Kyle is calling from Missoula, Montana. The two letter _postal_ abbreviation for Montana is MT. MO is the abbreviation for Missouri.
@sophistichistory4645
@sophistichistory4645 2 жыл бұрын
As Christopher Hitchens used to say..... "Of course we have free will. We have no choice."
@mattb6646
@mattb6646 6 жыл бұрын
the sound is incredibly low on some of these uploads, not sure if yall are aware.
@adrianortizurzua7884
@adrianortizurzua7884 6 жыл бұрын
Seems fine to me..
@helgefan8994
@helgefan8994 6 жыл бұрын
For me, it's just the left speaker that's silent in this video. So maybe the volume of your right speaker is lower than your left one.
@adrianortizurzua7884
@adrianortizurzua7884 5 жыл бұрын
@AZigler Nah. You need it bud
@IONAPINKMOXIE
@IONAPINKMOXIE 5 жыл бұрын
My right ear enjoyed this very much
@8698gil
@8698gil 5 жыл бұрын
I’m having trouble with thesound on this one too
@meridien52681
@meridien52681 5 жыл бұрын
Matt flying solo? Like he usually does?
@austinaxley81
@austinaxley81 5 жыл бұрын
Hey, co pilots don't fly the plane, they're just there in case the pilot makes a mistake or takes a break. ;D
@HarryNicNicholas
@HarryNicNicholas 5 жыл бұрын
lol, i know what you mean, most of the time they might as well have a cardboard cutout for all the air time matt allows them.
@everydaydubs1713
@everydaydubs1713 3 жыл бұрын
Even when Scotty Pippen got the ball, he passed it to Micheal Jordan if he could. The other hosts know who to let carry the team.
@starlaminde3113
@starlaminde3113 3 жыл бұрын
@@everydaydubs1713 I agree wholeheartedly Matt truly brought the best and the followers came in droves. I love the other hosts yes but Matt is definitely the personality the awareness needed.
@MilkyWayGalaxyy
@MilkyWayGalaxyy 3 жыл бұрын
@@starlaminde3113 Yes, I agree. As much as Matt annoys me with his quick hang ups, swearing, monopolizing the conversation with literally every caller, etc. He is by far the most knowledgeable, charismatic and entertaining host!! He made this show what it is. If I was in a religious debate with high stakes like on primitive TV against the top Christian speakers, I would pick Matt even over Dawkins, Hitchens and Sam Harris! Matt knows his stuff about the Bible and science.
@KoolBreeze420
@KoolBreeze420 4 жыл бұрын
The shit I saw in my DE was like being on a trip of mushrooms and acid at the same time. I think the experience actually happens when you wake up. I remember up to the point where a dr was trying to push the needle into my chest to inflate my lung which was against my heart the next thing I remember is some wild ass conversation with my father then I remember a bunch of pain and then I woke up the time between the death and my waking up was bout 13 hours lots of time for the brain to concoct a story and let you dream it. I want to know how many of these people were revived and questioned the very minute after brought back to life.
@ridespirals
@ridespirals Жыл бұрын
yeah and I think we all have experienced crazy time dilation in dreams, and we know that we only dream for a short period every 90 minutes, even though sometimes we experience what we feel as one long continuous dream throughout the night. our brains are capable of stitching together fragments into coherent narratives and then just convincing itself that everything makes sense. also I find it so incredibly unremarkable that people have NDEs where they talk to their family. the guy kept mentioning that as though it demonstrated something. if your brain was just, essentially, dreaming, using people that you already know to populate the dream would be entirely expected. what would be really interesting is if you talked with people you didn't know, and had never met, and also somehow represented their actual personality and mannerisms, and you saw specific things about them that you could never have known. THAT would be very interesting, and that literally never happens.
@christianlovelace4201
@christianlovelace4201 5 жыл бұрын
His incredulous take-down of OT absurdities for Jonathan is mesmerizing in skeptic's eyes.
@brianmonks8657
@brianmonks8657 4 жыл бұрын
Stop saying "Atheists" when you mean "Sceptics". There are Atheists that believe old books on magic. Atheists don't have to be sceptics. They can believe in souls, an afterlife, magic, or anything other than the existence of gods.
@brucebaker810
@brucebaker810 3 жыл бұрын
"Do you believe in unicorns?" No. "Me neither. So is 'no unicorns' your worldview? Or a teeny tiny corner of a worldview?"
@Poppa1950
@Poppa1950 4 жыл бұрын
Here we are 7 years later, tic, tic, tic
@33melonpaws77
@33melonpaws77 5 жыл бұрын
@ the last caller: god's not mysterious, he's just cruel. Atheists haven't missed the point of god's actions when they read of him doing evil things.
@HarryNicNicholas
@HarryNicNicholas 5 жыл бұрын
morality, in simple terms: atheists have no god, so they do whatever they please believers are directed by god, so they can do whatever god pleases. god: "go kill your son" atheist: "screw you fatso, where's my christmas present?" believer: "sure thing god, i love you"
@brianmonks8657
@brianmonks8657 4 жыл бұрын
As an example,it doesn't matter if somebody hurts an innocent person because they made a conscious choice, or if they had no choice because of their brain structure. What matters is preventing them from harming others. As for justice, that isn't the same as vengeance. Justice is for the victim, repairing or righting the wrong done to them. In cases, like murder, there can be no justice for the victim at this point.
@bethink253
@bethink253 3 жыл бұрын
I honestly don't fully understand the concept of compatiblism. My best take: it's a compromise because we wouldn't know how else to proceed otherwise.
@vizzini2510
@vizzini2510 2 жыл бұрын
Kevin appears to believe everything he has ever heard.
@MrKErocks
@MrKErocks 5 жыл бұрын
Jeffrey Long, MD is an author and radiation oncologist. He now claims he can prove god exists too. If it were true, no doubt we'd all know about it...
@HarryNicNicholas
@HarryNicNicholas 5 жыл бұрын
house md say everybody lies. and he's a fiction.
@sophistichistory4645
@sophistichistory4645 2 жыл бұрын
It sounds like Long has been mainlining cobalt-60.
@larjkok1184
@larjkok1184 6 жыл бұрын
Kevin, just stop. You found a doctor that says consciousness out of the body is a thing. Yeah I heard dozens say smoking is a good thing.
@darylblasi788
@darylblasi788 5 жыл бұрын
And that doctor's study isn't conclusive. Kevin was reaching hard.
@ellamcfadden617
@ellamcfadden617 5 жыл бұрын
Oggy Oggy I don’t get your logic.
@HarryNicNicholas
@HarryNicNicholas 5 жыл бұрын
if i take your brain out of your body i think you'd be hard pressed deciding what reality is.
@fishcious
@fishcious 4 жыл бұрын
Actually, Kevin was misrepresenting the doctor...I found links to the published journal article and a couple of interviews and Dr. Parnia said that his results suggest that consciousness lasts longer after the heart stops than was previously believed, but his conclusion about near death experiences is that they are likely an illusion.
@philosopher0076
@philosopher0076 3 жыл бұрын
Not ONE doctor....dozens and dozens and over 100 research studies over the years on the topic. Get a clue. And let's see, I've NEVER heard even ONE doctor, let alone "dozens" as you claim, say cigarette smoking is a "good thing" for health.
@ZER0--
@ZER0-- 6 жыл бұрын
Doesn't matter if we have free will, it certainly seems that we do.
@ColtonPhillips
@ColtonPhillips 6 жыл бұрын
It makes me wish there was a mono setting. I don't think Tae know much about audio fidelity
@DrCooch
@DrCooch 5 жыл бұрын
I don't know If that's necessarily true. At least I wouldn't say that because if in fact we don't have "Free Will" how could we determine what that feels like ? Could we be "Freer" and if so, How could we possibly say that our feeling of Free Will is actually a demonstration of what Free Will actually entails ?
@HarryNicNicholas
@HarryNicNicholas 5 жыл бұрын
"do i believe there is free will? i have no choice" hitchens.
@HarryNicNicholas
@HarryNicNicholas 5 жыл бұрын
@@DrCooch read or watch some sam harris and / or cosmic skeptic, they have very compelling arguments that free will doesn't exist, very. the thing is until we can see the future we have to act like we do have free will, that is set yourself goals and head toward them, the "lack of free will" bit, is we will succeed or fail, but only in hindsight.
@DrCooch
@DrCooch 5 жыл бұрын
@@HarryNicNicholas I have already, especially Cosmic Skeptic. I agree with them, however sometimes it can be a difficult subject to manage, so I express my position lightly for now until I have a comprehensive understanding of the matter.
@sydnar347
@sydnar347 2 жыл бұрын
I personally believe there may be hope for Jonathan
@Eyehook777
@Eyehook777 3 жыл бұрын
This always happens. People say you'll see in X number of years. Thanks to KZbin, we get to laugh at these years later when, like always, they don't pan out in their favor. Matt's been putting the smackdown on these guys for years. Thank you Matt.
@philosopher0076
@philosopher0076 3 жыл бұрын
Wrong. Parnia clearly has stated that the study has shown consciousness continues although a person has no brain function. So much for your " laughing " and a " smackdown " that is not going to happen.
@Eyehook777
@Eyehook777 3 жыл бұрын
@@philosopher0076 umm you must be watching something different than what the rest of us are seeing. It easily apparent that Matt demolishes these guys. But I understand you refuse to admit it. I wouldn't expect you to do anything other than what you all do.
@philosopher0076
@philosopher0076 2 жыл бұрын
@@Eyehook777 Please show us all where Matt demolishes, Dr. Parnia, or Dr. Long or Dr. Greyson or Dr. Sartori or Dr. Moody or Dr. Ring or Dr. Alexander or etc , etc., or a 100 more.
@Eyehook777
@Eyehook777 2 жыл бұрын
@@philosopher0076 LOLOL Really? You want me to sit here and show you how Matt has demolished at very least SEVEN and no less than ONE HUNDRED OTHERS? Surrrre... :::cracking knuckles::: Let me get right on that for you seeing as you have set this ridiculous writing essay for me that will take the rest of my night through morning just so that I can convince YOU, someone I couldn't care less about, of something countless thousands of others have already posted their complete agreement with. LOL Do a little research.
@LPCLASSICAL
@LPCLASSICAL Жыл бұрын
@@philosopher0076 No Parnia studies did not show that. The Parnia studies were a spectacular failure. 2 studies and no good evidence. Parnia said more studies are needed. The EEGs showed activity going on in the brain when nobody expected it - indicating that the brain may be producing these experiences and maybe not any soul. NO positives on the screen test at all and hardly any interesting data. If Parnia does demonstrate that a soul exists he will get a nobel prize - if his work establishes beyond reasonable doubt that consciousness survives death - we will soon all know about it.
@JarlGrimmToys
@JarlGrimmToys 5 жыл бұрын
Kevin is just flat out wrong about clinical death. Clinical death is defined as the moment that the heart stops beating as well as no longer breathing. At which point the brain is still active and can be resuscitated. After roughly 5 minutes the brain starts to die from lack of oxygen. At which point if they’re resuscitated they’re increasingly likely to suffer brain damage. The brain will suffer catastrophic failure at around 20-30 minutes and brain death will occur. This is why they are called NEAR death experiences, and not experiences of death. If they’re having some sort of supernatural experience. They’re having it while alive but dying, and not after they’re dead.
@russbroda2535
@russbroda2535 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Kev - so what about the write up on your consciousness study ? Surprised by the result. ?
@mrmadness2699
@mrmadness2699 6 жыл бұрын
For the rest of us, what was the result?
@Nekulturny
@Nekulturny 5 жыл бұрын
@@mrmadness2699 sue blackmore wrote about it. Utter failure.
@philosopher0076
@philosopher0076 3 жыл бұрын
@@Nekulturny Yes she is a failure in her research. Poor and unthorough to say the least.
@Omnorimli
@Omnorimli 3 жыл бұрын
BEST. INTRO. EVER.
@LPCLASSICAL
@LPCLASSICAL 3 жыл бұрын
People are full of anecdotal nonsense with NDE - when you actually follow up these case you find - for example : an unamed nurse - who no longer works in the field and cannot be traced - said at the time - "yes he told me exactly what me and the doctor were talking about when he was unconscious. " You can rarely trace any of these people to confirm anything.
@philosopher0076
@philosopher0076 3 жыл бұрын
Nonsense. Read more. Research it. There are plenty of names, dates, details in the literature. Pam Reynolds case for one of many. And " anecdotal nonsense " ? Anecdotes are evidence. They are called anecdotal evidence and/or anecdotal data which is subjective data. Every doctors visit you ever had in your life pretty much centered around on and had its result depend on YOUR anecdotal data which you gave to your doctor about how you FELT. The legal, justice system uses anecdotal data, police sketch artists rely on anecdotal data and etc., etc., etc.. So when Matt states, "The plural of anecdote is not data ", he's being not only contradictory and redundant, but he's just wrong with such a non-starter of a statement. Why? Because as I said, anecdotes are data. So Matt is actually saying, " The plural of data is not data.". That's idiotic. Have a nice day.
@LPCLASSICAL
@LPCLASSICAL 3 жыл бұрын
@@philosopher0076 anecdotes are data - but they are not reliable data. I researched and read all around the NDE literature thank including Pam Reynolds and it is not convincing. When we get a numbers above the operating table positive result - now that could be interesting.
@philosopher0076
@philosopher0076 2 жыл бұрын
@@LPCLASSICAL But that's been shown to be a poor methodology because NDE'ers have stated to researchers that it is a flawed way to do a study. Doctors asked why and thousands of previous NDE experiencers who wrote to them have stated that when they " popped " out of their body they were intensively focused on their body on the operating table below them and the activity and thoughts and emotions of the medical staffs who were running around frantically working to save them. They said they had no interest in looking up at the walls or equipment or screens, computers, monitors etc. . So that type of study seems to be a poor way to go about this research. Doctors are trying to think now of better ways to carry out studies regarding cardiac arrests which include NDEs.
@LPCLASSICAL
@LPCLASSICAL 2 жыл бұрын
@@philosopher0076Hope they devise a better methodology then. Until there is some positive result from any test - I am going to suspend my evaluation.
@LPCLASSICAL
@LPCLASSICAL 2 жыл бұрын
@@philosopher0076 maybe a good method would be to put a 3 digit number in large characters on the actual patient operating gown. So that when the soul looks down at the body - it can easily be seen.
@HarryNicNicholas
@HarryNicNicholas 5 жыл бұрын
after they are deader. why is it so important for these people to have to prove they're right, why not just accept no one knows, yet. you can talk to 100 people who are 10% sure something is true, that something is still only 10% - it doesn't matter if a million people "thought they saw a ghost" it's just a million people likely wrong.
@jtstar10
@jtstar10 5 жыл бұрын
Re: near death / out of body experience : if you die, get embalmed Then come back to life,...we'll listen. Done!
@jameswest8280
@jameswest8280 5 жыл бұрын
Kevin claims people that were brain dead were revived. There's not one documented case where someone with a flat EEG has ever been brought back.
@palestinianhummus9251
@palestinianhummus9251 3 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see their god bring back to life someone who's been dead for ten years. Or cremated. Till then, it's all bs.
@chriswilkes2438
@chriswilkes2438 Жыл бұрын
Bad audio
@ekiwyar8512
@ekiwyar8512 5 жыл бұрын
Horrible audio
@bert.hbuysse5569
@bert.hbuysse5569 3 жыл бұрын
To be honest, it's usually Matt solo when he is one of the hosts..
@dwendt44
@dwendt44 5 жыл бұрын
The brain doesn't necessarily switch off at or near death. It tends to fade out over a 5 or 10 minute span. Audio inputs can still register into memory if one is unconscious.
@philosopher0076
@philosopher0076 3 жыл бұрын
After 30 seconds the cerebral cortex is not functioning and one cannot experience any thinking, dreaming, remembering, hallucinating. Impossible. And even 20 minutes and hours after this point, people have been rescusitated and told detailed happenings during the time they were clinically dead...things happening in not only the room they were in, but other rooms in the same hospital, or in a house, things happening miles away or cities away or continents away at some relative or friends home and so on. So, even though they had hearing that was degrading, they could not know what detailed physical actions were happening even with strangers down in another hospital room...but they do.
@theunrepentantatheist24
@theunrepentantatheist24 2 жыл бұрын
@@philosopher0076 You don't know when people are having these experiences. They may well be having experiences in the moments before they come back to consciousness after the heart has restarted and oxygen is reaching the brain.
@jameswest8280
@jameswest8280 5 жыл бұрын
Why is it when you say I don't know, theists take it as a personal triumph?
@MrKErocks
@MrKErocks 6 жыл бұрын
Jonathan is god's enabler...
@33melonpaws77
@33melonpaws77 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah he keeps making excuses for god's bad behaviour. Stop it Jonathan, just stop it.
@nietzschescodes
@nietzschescodes 2 жыл бұрын
can't listen to it in mono
@andyvankerkhove6902
@andyvankerkhove6902 5 жыл бұрын
To keep the money coming in for the study...they have to release some magic results....evidence is crucial...
@taurculh69
@taurculh69 10 ай бұрын
Kevin: it is SO tiring hearing about "near death experiences" because A) You are not dead. You did not die, you did not even go CLOSE to dyeing because if you had, there is a decent chance you would have some permanent damage to the brain from lack of blood flow/oxygen B) if your "soul" or whatever you call it, starts going WALKABOUTS at the first hint of your body "dying" then that soul is a piece of shit. It should stay WHERE IT IS, until you are ACTUALLY dead, not "pop out for walk" whenever you take an extended medical nap, that's the equivalent of an airline Pilot on a plane full of passengers jumping out with a parachute the moment the fuel light starts blinking "low", instead of trying to do an emergency landing.
@rhondah1587
@rhondah1587 5 жыл бұрын
I'm with Sam Harris. Everything we decide or react to is based solely on our personal experiences and the knowledge we have gained throughout our lives. That's why judging others by our own experiences and knowledge is stupid. Nevertheless, as a society, we recognize that people who have demonstrated they are dangerous to society should be removed from society until and unless they can be rehabilitated (which our prisons just never do or even try to).
@cpusasleeperagent942
@cpusasleeperagent942 5 жыл бұрын
He pretty much is always going solo.
@johndavid4831
@johndavid4831 4 жыл бұрын
Jonathan is being dishonest to himself..."to an extent" Ironic, how Jonathan brings up zombies...laughable.
@c.guydubois8270
@c.guydubois8270 4 жыл бұрын
perhaps an ," Ellen" with the entrance?......
@unit0033
@unit0033 4 жыл бұрын
millions of near Death experiences! would like to see kevins database for that study!
@philosopher0076
@philosopher0076 3 жыл бұрын
It's a statistical number based on the 40+ years we have had CPR used in the medical community regularly and the % of people who have NDE's on average and then multiplied by world population.....ONE million is actually an incredible understatement. It isn't that 1 million cases were studied and analyzed individually. It's summing up the percentages and getting those numbers. And the caller didn't say that there was a STUDY of a million NDE'ers. Go listen again. It's based on percentages.
@unit0033
@unit0033 3 жыл бұрын
@@philosopher0076 kevin wasnt impressing the hosts with his so called 'evidence'. Hasnt impressed me either. Guess some people are more gullible than others
@theunrepentantatheist24
@theunrepentantatheist24 2 жыл бұрын
@@philosopher0076 In Parnia's study of 2000 resuscitated patients - only a small number reported interesting experiences and of those - only one was particularly impressive. Nobody was clinically dead. Their hearts stopped but they were resuscitated before brain death.
@justicelut
@justicelut 3 жыл бұрын
There was a famous person who died here in Australia and was dead for quite a while. He was revived and after he recuperated he was asked by A famous reporter, “ what happens when you die “. His reply was there’s no bright light, there’s nobody calling you, your just asleep. No wonder I’m an atheist.
@palestinianhummus9251
@palestinianhummus9251 3 жыл бұрын
He wasn't dead though. Near dead isn't dead!
@philosopher0076
@philosopher0076 3 жыл бұрын
He may not have been without a heartbeat. He could have been alive with a weak heartbeat....just unconscious. He may have been in a brief coma....not dead, in which case, yes, he would have seen basically nothing, had little or no experience. Further, many of the drugs used in resuscitation medicine cause MEMORY LOSS, therefore he could have been dead, had an Near Death Experience but after being revived, his brain could not hold on to his soul/consciousnesse's memory of the NDE. You are taking ONE case of thousands and making it the reason you are an atheist? Whew.
@thickerconstrictor9037
@thickerconstrictor9037 3 жыл бұрын
@@philosopher0076 or there could just be no afterlife. I'm an atheist because I haven't seen any good evidence to convince me a God exists. That's it. The same way that you say that he could have not been actually dead and therefore didn't have an experience, well the people who claim to have an experience are in the same boat. They're not necessarily dead either. Not to mention the studies this guy mentioned turned out no evidence that near death experiences exist. I don't doubt people have experiences. But how do we tell the difference between something that's actually happening and something that's just a product of the happenings of their brain during the trauma? And even if there was something after death that doesn't therefore prove god. So that wouldn't affect my atheism necessarily either. Could be the case that we're ghosts or we go into another universe or something. That's not what I believe but you can't just rule that out. Not to mention there are many conflicting claims of near death. I don't think that's something that we're going to have a good ability to confirm. But it wouldn't prove God for me anyway so it is what it is
@philosopher0076
@philosopher0076 3 жыл бұрын
@@thickerconstrictor9037 His study indeed showed a person or two that knew things that were happening in real time in the room and elsewhere, verified later. So there was consciousness with time stamps when a brain was clinically dead and incapable of thought or dreaming or hallucinations of any kind. Further people having NDEs consistently state that their experience was visually, mentally, audibly 10, 20, 50 times more clear, crisp, vivid than normal life... hyper real. A brain that is damaged, dying, degrading, and/or clinically dead...would not have BETTER thought processing and clarity of experience. And in the case of clinically dead, the BRAIN cannot have any experience. Now yes, no NDE experiencer among the small handful in the study, noted seeing the computer screen up above the head of the emergency room beds. The screen, flashing randomly generated images, numbers etc, was the target in the study. However, the study was found to be incredibly flawed because interviews and historical data from decades of NDE experiences, illuminated the doctors to the fact that, people who have an NDE state that they( their consciousness) pops out of their body, and their main focus as they float up above their body is one thing, their BODY. They don't look around at medical equipment screens and such but are centered on looking down at themselves/their lifeless body. So such a study with screens as targets etc., are flawed in a big way. And you say the proving of an afterlife, a soul, doesn't point to that a God exists. Not true. People who have long NDEs , across the board state that they met and were in the presence of an intelligent Source/God and were taught lessons and had downloads of incredible amounts of information regarding how that Source created the Universe and so on. If there was no God / Source, then there would not be such a recurring narrative within their experiences.
@kohnfutner9637
@kohnfutner9637 3 жыл бұрын
Near dwarf ahem death experience = god. Which one?
@marcferrer1333
@marcferrer1333 3 жыл бұрын
my right ear enjoyed the show…….😎🤣
@sukavuka
@sukavuka 4 жыл бұрын
Say what now? This is an army
@Nekulturny
@Nekulturny 5 жыл бұрын
Susan blackmore has pretty much blown this out of body stuff out of the water
@philosopher0076
@philosopher0076 3 жыл бұрын
Wrong. Do some research.
@8698gil
@8698gil 5 жыл бұрын
It seems obvious to me. Of course people would EXPECT to see their dead relatives. Why would they expect to see anyone else? And that’s why they see their relatives. The brain can play amazing tricks, and that is a fact.
@terryhinch
@terryhinch 5 жыл бұрын
Much like how people who have alien abduction claims tend to describe the same kinds of aliens, because that's what they expect to see. And before aliens and spaceships were a thing it would have been demons. Because that's what their brain had to draw on from their culture.
@8698gil
@8698gil 5 жыл бұрын
@@terryhinch Yes, exactly. People see what they want and expect to see.
@LoveScreamTrue
@LoveScreamTrue 4 жыл бұрын
@@8698gil Confirmation bias?
@philosopher0076
@philosopher0076 3 жыл бұрын
Wrong. Please explain how someone can see what they "expect to see" when they haven't had time to even think or know that they are dying? There are tons of examples such as a 12 year old girl who was riding her bike crossing a street and got T-boned by a speeding car and was unconsciousness and actually clinically dead when she hit the pavement. The window washer up high on a scaffold cleaning the windows of a building and a storm began rolling in and he was struck by lightening and his heart stopped in less than a second after the bolt hit him. So, please explain how these people saw deceased relatives because they "expected" to see them when they didn't even have time to THINK about anything. And your argument actually fails even without that information I just gave you because people cannot use the memory in their brain or any part of their brain to dream, hallucinate, think....when they have had no heartbeat for 30 seconds and after. So these NDE's cannot be dreams nor hallucinations. Do some actual research before you spew silly guesses and state them as if they have any value or weight insofar as the actual facts and data of human physiology and NDE events are concerned.
@HarryNicNicholas
@HarryNicNicholas 5 жыл бұрын
an amendment to the US Constitution that prohibits any law limiting freedom with respect to religion, expression, peaceful assembly, or the right of citizens to petition the government. doesn't this conflict with the first commandment? 41:00 he's assuming atheists trust science, we don't, we accept it's the best we can do until something better comes along, but the whokle point of being skeptical is that you don't "just believe" you have to make sure at least something is demonstrably repeatable or there is a practical aspect that makes us "accept it's true, for now". the higgs boson was another theory, in order to explain the behaviour of particles we already discovered science postulated that there must be a particle we missed, so, they predicted another particle, set up the experiment, and there it was. it has been observed, it is real, however mysterious. 47:00 yep, slavery, but the whole whole point of rejecting religion is that GOD CAN TELL YOU TO DO ANYTHING including BAD THINGS. morality, in simple terms: atheists have no god, so they do whatever they please believers are directed by god, so they can do whatever god pleases. god: "go kill your son" atheist: "screw you fatso, where's my christmas present?" believer: "sure thing god, i love you" lol, zombies aren't evil, they are doing the moral thing for zombies. :)
@kohnfutner9637
@kohnfutner9637 3 жыл бұрын
I got proof of god: Matt dillahunty is above god level super debater.
@everydaydubs1713
@everydaydubs1713 3 жыл бұрын
*Master debater 😏
@Droidruid1993
@Droidruid1993 6 жыл бұрын
you mean "Matt Flies So low"
@ellamcfadden617
@ellamcfadden617 5 жыл бұрын
Matt will deny any possibility of an afterlife to protect his stance that no god exists. I’m an Aetheist and I’ve watched literally all of these shows. The more I’ve seen the more I start to wonder if matt is angry at god. We don’t know his inner reality especially when he deconverted. I’ve not heard any other speakers talk angry about god.
@jshaers96
@jshaers96 5 жыл бұрын
I imagine he's mostly angry at people like you who deliberately misunderstand what he says. He doesn't say no god exists, he says there is not sufficient evidence to justify that belief. Likewise any other claim about 'the supernatural '.
@Zripas
@Zripas 5 жыл бұрын
Ella Mcfadden Cool straw man fallacy you have here.
@terryhinch
@terryhinch 5 жыл бұрын
Show us some actual evidence of an afterlife. Something we can test and repeatedly get the same result. Because currently we have nothing besides claims made by some people who didn't actually die, and those claims vary depending on the religious culture around them. Why to Catholics tend to see Mary and Muslims see Allah or Muhammad? Shouldn't all of them report seeing Jesus if that afterlife is true? Shouldn't they all experience the same escalator up to the clouds?
@davemacdougall6039
@davemacdougall6039 4 жыл бұрын
Ever think that he gets frustrated because the concept has nothing to do with athiesm?
@palestinianhummus9251
@palestinianhummus9251 3 жыл бұрын
Angry at something he doesn't believe exists? Yeah, brilliant logic.
@dangil125
@dangil125 3 жыл бұрын
In the woter
@brucebaker810
@brucebaker810 3 жыл бұрын
You are saying what? About what in the video...or...anything?
@tedgrant2
@tedgrant2 6 жыл бұрын
The Bible is a scientific book. It answers many questions about natural phenomena. For example what causes rain ? Why do we see rainbows ? How big are the stars ? It is also a wonderful medical book. It explains how to cure many diseases, blindness etc.
@Ludvigvanamadeus
@Ludvigvanamadeus 6 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure if this is a joke or not(because it sounds insane, but some people honestly believe it) but providing answers doesn't mean much when the answers are pulled out of the ass and demonstrably wrong.
@jimmorgan8688
@jimmorgan8688 6 жыл бұрын
LOL!
@aliceIMF
@aliceIMF 5 жыл бұрын
"The Bible is a scientific book. It answers many questions about natural phenomena. For example what causes rain ? Why do we see rainbows ? How big are the stars ? It is also a wonderful medical book. It explains how to cure many diseases, blindness etc." oh dear...
@yourmoms5602
@yourmoms5602 5 жыл бұрын
. . . and gets every single one, not only wrong, by monumentally wrong. It's almost as if the bible was a collection of bronze age goat herder myths.
@palestinianhummus9251
@palestinianhummus9251 3 жыл бұрын
The ancient Levantines who wrote the Bible didn't even know what science was lmao.
@jacqueskailis8317
@jacqueskailis8317 5 жыл бұрын
Jonathan, just do science, and then do religion. I can appreciate you want to mix them, sorry Bud, not possible.
@HarryNicNicholas
@HarryNicNicholas 5 жыл бұрын
you can actually skip a lot of the religion and still have a quality life. in fact, just forget the religion thing, it's only useful because we have religious people.
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