The Authoritarianism That Already Crept In | Doug Wilson

[@possumhunter1179]

Leeman's options have narrowed. Yep. The task at hand is to tell the "Herods" that "you can't have that woman." (proverbially). To tell them that they can't do (fill in the blank) to people. Just like Knox told Catherine (et al). Like Paul told Felix. Like Jonah told the king of Nineveh. The natural question that will inevitably be asked if us is, "Who gives you the authority to say that?" And the plain reply (giving an answer for the hope within) is, "King Jesus." Then, it follows, "Jesus who?" And then we can say, "Let us tell you all about your magnificent and glorious King." The practical application is going to be the same, regardless of eschatology. Whether or not the government repents (like Nineveh) is the Lord's prerogative alone. He will either send the Spirit and there will be repentance, or there will be persecution. Either way, the gospel demands that we tell human government that their job, from on High, is to punish evil and reward good. And, our job is to tell them that they don't get to define good and evil, because that's what the Lord does. To say a human can define good and evil is simply idolatry. And there's a judgement for idolatry. People get "given over" to having wicked desires if they're idolatrous enough. See Romans 1 for that. Christos Kurios.

[@Richardcontramundum]

Very well said. Seriously apt and precise and yet simple

[@jawshh559]

Put me down for “strongly amens”

[@brianbagley9598]

Great job, Mr. Wilson. Appreciate your insights.

[@ClassicalProtestant]

GK Chesterton had a baby and his name is Pastor Doug Wilson and he’s ours for this century 🙏🏼🙌🏽

[@billiamnotbob]

Another winner, Pastor Doug. I wish I had the where-with-all to move to Moscow, Id. It'd be a hoot!

[@austinrothjr]

“Shrewd insights” mixed with an “almost perfect jumble” is basically describing everything Leeman has ever written.

[@stevenwelp7165]

Doug, bring RFK, Jr. on your show, interview with the hard questions.

[@JRPLawyeress1]

Megyn Kelly has done some good KZbin interviews of JFK, Jr. I’d enjoy hearing Doug’s analysis of his new Fauci book. I just borrowed it from the library. Looks like I’ll need to pay attention while I read.

[@TemperedMedia]

Any good politician is going to avoid an invitation to a show where their character will be on trial. After all, they want to be elected, not actually run a country.

[@TypicalTGreen]

I very much appreciate "the eyes in your head." 👍

[@hokieham]

I wrote off Leeman after he went woke…..and didn’t really read anything by him before either. I truly don’t care what he thinks.

[@bnato8209]

Not a fan of 9Marxist Ministry and Jonathan Leeman. Their embracing of cultural marxism nearly caused the downfall of my prior pastor as he subscribed to their material and was unfortunately influenced by it. Thankfully my former pastor came to his senses and reversed course before he was ousted.

[@sonnyh9774]

Where there's smoke , there's fire. Devers troubles me , but I can't quite put my finger on it. However, It's difficult for me to find problems with the 9 marks of a church. Church membership appears to be the weakest link and every Biblical support for appears to be able to be accomplished without "church membership", so their argument is not very persuasive from a Biblical perspective. Membership appears more for the pastor to easily control people with an extra-Biblical covenant then as a Biblical requirement. Calvin used it to control the nonChristians and Moses used it to control non Christians... mainly. My pastor has taken it hook, line and sinker.

[@austinrothjr]

I used to attend a 9 Marks adjacent church. They basically copied and pasted 9 Marks views on Baptism and membership. I support the idea of membership but the 9 Marks theology took that Church to some really errant places with how they view non-Baptists.

[@jakerinehold9697]

The six of us siblings and our cousins are all part of the Silent Generation, a generation which is rapidly vanishing. Our kids and grandkids will see things that most of us, if not all, never thought could happen.

[@aallen5256]

Isn’t this always true though? The grandchildren of every generation see things that would astound their forbears! Industrialisation, mechanisation, the digital age, etc. Stone Age generations couldn’t imagine the innovations of bronze!

[@hushai5154]

Yes, but the question is in what direction? The current age faces a dystopian future of ever increasing perverted violence. Inventions and technology are simply tools that can be used for increasing good or evil.

[@aallen5256]

@@hushai5154 Our earth is degenerate in these later days; there are signs that the world is speedily coming to an end; bribery and corruption are common; children no longer obey their parents; every man wants to write a book and the end of the world is evidently approaching. - Assyrian clay tablet, 2800BC

[@hushai5154]

@@aallen5256 No, just coming to the end of another epoch, death and rebirth is always painful. But historically we’ve been here before ( the major difference is technological advances.)

[@mickeyt3389]

Speak Mr Wilson!

[@hunniebe6]

Often those with a rigid, simple belief were better able to withstand the continual barrage against their minds than were the flexible, sophisticated ones, full of doubt and inner conflicts. The simple man with deep rooted, freely absorbed religious faith could exert a much greater inner resistance than could the complex, questioning intellectualist. The refined intellectual is much more handicapped by the internal pros and cons. ― Joost A.M. Meerloo

[@mountainlaurelhomestead6612]

Good analysis!!!!!

[@anon-lo6ik]

A real Welfare regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed.

[@epimetheus7326]

Kind of like when pope Francis says traditionalists are a dangerous relic of the past, rigid and intolerant. As if the doctrine of faith is something to be loose about and the moral law something that depends on the circumstances (which is exactly what he seems to think). Meanwhile, he's banning or restricting the liturgy that existed for centuries unchanged and saying nothing about German bishops blessing gay marriage, drag queens in the mass, apponting atheist pro choicer to teach bioethics in the Vatican and silencing/stripping of priesthood anyone who dares question him. Preaching tolerance while persecuting, preaching morality while condoning sin. Typical marxist operationalized hypocrisy. You are not alone, my brothers in Christ.

[@jac4YouTube]

Personally i think they should put the 10 Commandments of Deuteronomy 5 as law of the land, but i won't hold my breath waiting.

[@roberttoomey1755]

Great job!

[@Gnmercjr76]

Amen

[@brianh1161]

All the big thinks aside, the US might have been a nice country a little longer if it: - remained run by Christian landowners of the pioneer stock (who - sorry - were white) - hadn't lusted for empire and economic growth at all costs - hadn't permitted creation of a private central bank to take over the financial system, which came to dominate government and and create a media hostile to the peoples' interests - didn't decadently enact universal suffrage A limited suffrage republican system may have been fine if we just hadn't made some critical mistakes. I am unconvinced anyone can craft a new system that negates the list above or avoids new unforseens. Avoid this list of mistakes, and the particulars of your form of government aren't so important. But we are sinful, so every man-made system will always screw it up until we are with Christ.

[@bretlynn]

Who had Jonathan Lehmann being reasonable on their bingo card?

[@Deep-Travel]

Just pre-ordered the book.

[@meincomf516]

Lol hope he sees this, paypig

[@willgoins218]

Leeman lol we already live in an authoritarian secularist state and have since before most of us were born.

[@isaiahhoward1997]

If the authority of this platform doesn’t think farming is something that makes sense to consider they may need to think again but I mean it’s absolutely not the highest issue obviously the innocent blood and pornography games need to end.

[@johnsteindel5273]

A couple of my concerns - that Christians become more concerned with building a government than building the Church, like the Founders did. And that applying all OT general equity to the general public may undermine liberty for all, the foundation of this Republic.

[@henrymw3]

Believing that nobody has the right to determine what I must or must not put in my body (whether marijuana, grass-fed beef, or a vaccine) is not the same as saying that any of those are good or bad. There is no decision more personal than what I put in my body, not even whom I have sex with, and I don't want the decision made by people who win wars and elections (but I repeat myself). I choose to be faithful to my wife and stay away from pot, and I join communities with the same rules (e.g., my church and Christian healthcare cost-sharing organization). The guy across the street may choose to do the opposite; my job is not to "change his mind" at gunpoint but to minimize the damage he does to others and do my best to win him to Christ.

[@austinrothjr]

Says who?

[@henrymw3]

@CP-dk8oi "... minimize the damage he does to others ..." is crucial. In a society of voluntary associations (which includes private roads), people would be responsible for *all* the damage they do to their neighbors. We currently subsidize drunk driving by allowing people to get away with paying for less than the total damage they do. You belive that killing someone through intoxicated driving is different from making the same mistake and killing someone, correct? I do too. It is in the best interests of the consortium of private road owners to eliminate the subsidy for drunk driving either by executing the guilty, denying them the right to drive again, enslaving them, or whatever. We have DUI laws today, but drunk drivers still kill people, so the law is not the solution. The choice is between a voluntary society of private property or an extortionate society where there is no privacy.

[@henrymw3]

@@austinrothjr Either God or no one who should be listened to.

[@umaikakudo]

The slippery slope comes in at the "minimize the damage he does to others" bit.

[@henrymw3]

@@umaikakudo It also comes in with the rich and powerful being able to make the most personal decisions for those who cannot defend themselves. What's your take on the last 39 months of the tax-feeder class running the lives of the defenseless? The issue is how we deal with an imperfect world. Do we sanctify the decrees of the rich and powerful, or do we say that no one is exempt from the commandments against killing innocent people, taking their property, defrauding them, or defaming them? The case laws of Exodus and the rest of the Torah tell us how to deal with violations of those commandments. (And yes, how they are to be interpreted in the Christian era is a matter of debate.) None of them require a tax-funded elite. We are told ad nauseum that in the time of the judges "there was no king in Israel," as if that's a bad thing; yet there were three periods of 40 years when "the land had rest" (presumably from war) and one 80-year period, and that never again happened during the monarchy. First Samuel, after the prologue describing Samuel's birth, begins with the Philistines cleaning Israel's clock, and it ends with Philistia cleaning their clock again: the installation of the monarchy (1 Sam 8-12) did nothing of benefit to Israel. And God never commanded them to install a king anyway; Deut 17 is a concession, as if to say, "If you want a king so you can be like the other nations -- which is a bad thing, but whatever -- this is what you do." The state has been the enemy of the covenant community ever since Pharaoh abducted Sarai in Gen 12, and it will be until the beast is thrown into the lake of fire. One task of the communities that Doug is trying to build -- the Christian nation -- is to get the state out of not only education but all aspects of life.

[@stevenwelp7165]

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[@mbent8138]

The 9Marks of Pietism

[@gregs157]

Theocratic libertarianism, I like that. Just plain libertarianism sounds like chaos, always has.

[@interestedmeow]

Doug’s position, in light of the interview with White, essentially boils down to: it’s better to be persecuted in Jesus name than it is to be persecuted because of His name. It’s better to have political power to circumvent the suffering that comes from preaching the Gospel to a darkening world.

[@umaikakudo]

What it boils down to is one worldview produces Nero, Robespierre, Stalin, and Mao while the other produces Luther, Calvin, Knox, Cromwell, Scottish Solemn League and Covenant, Westminster Assembly, Separatist Pilgrims, Washington, and Kuyper. Which would you rather your children live in? At the end of the day society and government is not exempt from the 1st commandment and Christians are not exempt from discipling them to obey everything the Lord of all rulers, authorities, and principalities has commanded. How God directs the heart of the king is in his providence but our duties are clear.

[@Richardcontramundum]

Short sleeves Doug?! What sort of strange juju is this?

[@anthonym.7653]

If Doug puts on a Hawaiian shirt next episode, I am unsubscribing.

[@mkshffr4936]

​@@anthonym.7653 😂😂

[@burburkang]

Wilson got tired of rolling up his sleeves every time he sticks his hands in societal goo, I see.

[@mjack3521]

Theononmy is the main issue. Sharia Law with religious police banging out the law of Moses

[@kidkratoski3778]

😮😅😅

[@meincomf516]

Notice the types of people that Doug quotes and answers at length, as opposed to those he only presents strawmen of. That's how you know he's slandering them. He won't look them in the eye.

[@meincomf516]

​@Jerry Holland he's not slandering Leeman. He slanders anyone who says mean things about his favorite high performance people.

[@meincomf516]

You should read E Michael Jones, Jared Taylor, Andrew Anglin, and Adolf Hitler for starters. Every single one of them would be mad to be included in that list. Edit: except Anglin. He would think it was funny.

[@RoninofFortune]

THIS is a common theme across society itself. A bunch of old boomers thinking that the the battles are coming in the distance. Newsflash guys!!! It's already happened under their noses. Too bad they can't see past them lol.

[@umaikakudo]

Are you referring to Doug? He is carrying on the fight his dad started and the Wilsons are now in the 4th generation of calling out the Evanjellyfish with the publishing of his latest book that was edited by Doug's grandson. They have built a real community and institutions living the alternative by example. The Wilsons back up their polemics with copious action. Something we all are duty bound to do but is far too rare.

[@panzerfaust1322]

I never understand what he’s saying…. Like I never even understand where he’s coming from…. It’s like these new I intellectual Christian’s are just talking to themselves …

[@geekubs2778]

Remove or change music, pretty please.

[@sonnyh9774]

fast forward

[@interestedmeow]

Christ never commanded we not live in an authoritarian regime or that living under one inhibited us from obedience. Doug just wants easy obedience. Why suffer when you can grab the reigns of authority and eliminate it for those who agree with you? Talk about over-realized eschatology.

[@henrymw3]

Are we to defend the rights of the defenseless? Are we allowed to do so if we are among the defenseless? Whom does Doug want to leave vulnerable to the psychopathy that has ruined countless lives, especially over the last 38 months?

[@sonnyh9774]

Christ never commanded don't engage in beastiality; to read your Bible; go to church; pay income tax, etc.... But the Bible clearly teaches we are to be good stewards of God's stuff. "Good stewardship" requires moving out of harms way whenever possible whether that's a job, church, relationship or bad government.

[@umaikakudo]

You have missed these from Jesus: "“your kingdom come, your will be done, on earth as in heaven,” "If you love me, you will obey my commandments." “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age.” What happens when disciples actually start obeying Jesus and bring all areas of life including the government under his authority? Colossians 1:16-17 For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him. And He is before all things, and in Him all things consist.

[@sonnyh9774]

@CP-dk8oi I was pointing out the absurdity of the commenter who thinks if Jesus didn't explicitly say it then it's not so and I gave obvuos examples

[@theeternalsbeliever1779]

@@umaikakudo This argument supposes that Christ is so weak that human have to bring governments under His authority for Him. The delusion that Christ's disciples are supposed to bring human governments under His command is what drove the RCC to commit that kind of atrocities that it did. Christ doesn't need your help in doing that. He's God. Daniel and Revelation says He'll do that with His own power.

[@meincomf516]

One of my favorite recurring themes in Doug's videos on the state of the world and how it came to be this way is how he blithely blames White Christians as a group for destroying everything, but no other groups can ever be accused of collective wrongdoing. Leaving aside the you-know-whos, it would at least be nice to hear a boomer admit his own generation's particular sins in the destruction of Christendom, as they are voluminous, terrible, and recent. Ah well, at least Dougie remains monetized and promoted on KZbin, and he can continue to shill to his paypigs free from all restrictions. #blessed

[@austinrothjr]

You spelled Kampf wrong, dummy.

[@meincomf516]

​@@austinrothjr boomers should not be allowed on the internet. Day of the pillow when?

[@Donner906]

Dou wilson is cult leader

[@JustinHonaker]

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