The Avril Lavigne conspiracy theory (explained)

[@BlindEyeTwist]

I just don't understand why Avril doesn't debunk the Conspiracy Theory, by being in the same Room with Melissa. 🤷‍♂️

[@sophialove-mq6tt]

Maybe Melissa doesn’t even exist.

[@nerychristian]

True. Why doesn't she give us Melissa's full name and show pictures of her with Melissa?

[@SarahAnaya-ox3tb]

​@@sophialove-mq6tt She doesnt

[@SarahAnaya-ox3tb]

​@@nerychristian it's a made up story. More like a rumor

[@takedown1106]

Is this who were talking about Melissa Vandella

[@EllisThings]

Such a great video Fake Caroline. You've done a fantastic job since taking over the channel!

[@Trendyflute]

I'm not drawn to conspiracy theories but I really enjoy your series and how you structure these videos, entertaining them heavily in the first half (albeit with lots of skepticism baked in) and then tearing them down in the second half, it's a fun progression, it makes for an interesting story, and you're very well suited to it! I realize you're still narrowing in on what your channel is post-Beatles and maybe this isn't where you land permanently but I'm enjoying the ride on these, thanks for all your research and presentation!

[@rome8180]

Somehow I'd never heard of this conspiracy theory. The most ridiculous part might be the "evidence" of the clothing change. First of all, as you pointed out, changing your wardrobe doesn't prove anything. But also, if "Melissa" were truly hired to impersonate Avril Lavigne, wouldn't Avril's management have told her to keep the same style to be as convincing as possible? To me, the clothing change almost disproves the conspiracy more than it proves it. Anyone trying to impersonate a dead person would continue to dress like them so as not to arouse suspicion.

[@Daddy2025HQ]

I don’t believe in rumours I believe what my heart says there’s is no clone of her avril is Melissa her real name

[@mst3ktemple421]

The next video needs to be what happened to Caroline since the last video that she is now replaced by a body double? There were far too many clues in this video so simply ignore. The truth will out.

[@jprg1966]

Caroline, this is a really intelligent and empathetic discussion on an important topic. I reject almost all conspiracy explanations for things, but it's too easy (and not correct) to say believers are dumb or uneducated.

[@ceejluige4816]

-Conspiracy (Noun) 'An agreement to perform together an illegal, wrongful, or subversive act.' -Theory (Noun) 'A set of statements or principles devised to explain a group of facts or phenomena, especially one that has been repeatedly tested or is widely accepted and can be used to make predictions about natural phenomena. If these are the definitions of the words separately, why is it that when you put the words together, it seems to be a synonym for "untrue"? For the record, no, I don't believe this theory about Avril... just making a point.

[@grimreaper2606]

I only found out about this theory recently and I find it extremely disturbing. If it's true and she committed sui*de then we've been listening to and supporting a fraud and not being loyal to the original. The music company should be *. I like the Eternal Pop Princess and it'd be an utter disgrace to continue listening to songs by anyone other than her when they're using her name. If the Theory is b*l*** and she's her from Birth until Now then that's Awesome. I sincerely hope the Magnificent Avril Lavigne is herself and not some imposter.

[@sjs11morbid80]

Hollywood is not reality 🧠... put ur phone done

[@jclyntoledo]

Is she considered pop?

[@IK47-d2l]

If you listen to her voice in old interviews in early 2000s, you can easily notice how different it is to her voice now, that's so weird!

[@birdinio1111]

Fans should request Avril and Melissa pose in a video together/photo or go on a talk show/pod cast together that will end the conspiracy theories. Simples!!

[@Meghangoshhh]

I agree with you

[@bunkertons]

Honestly, the signiture is probably the most compelling piece of "evidence." My signiture is approximately equal to my signiture when I was 17. The way I write my letters is exactly the same (I'm 38 now). I do think there are way too many similarities for this theory to be true, but Avril did undergo a rapid change in an extremely short period of time. I am sure part of it was a revrand, but it is definitely interesting. Also, her voice really did change a lot. That part is the most bizarre to me.

[@nerychristian]

Yesh, I do think her voice sounds different. It's not just about hitting the right notes. It's about the tone of the voice.

[@RecordsWithRyan]

Interesting! these vids are great

[@CallMeCaroline]

Thankyou!

[@andrewjbloom]

Oh yeah I've been waiting for your take on this!

[@bashclassof04]

it would be interesting to do same voice comparison of 2006 Taylor Swift to today. if you would do that it would show how voices mature and change

[@Wastedsorrow]

I used to hate wearing jeans as a teenager, now I wear them more than sweatpants. And also my music taste has changed from when I was a teen. So yeah people change, including Avril

[@MathewTitus]

The key to the issue is this : body doubles are NOT a Conspiracy. If Melissa Vandella was an actual body double - all we need to do - is to find Melissa Vandella.

[@WeepingValkyrie]

As someone who was in choir for nearly 10years, I went from a low alto to a high soprano. It's called vocal training

[@tacticalcupcake5104]

That before and after conspiracy photo of Avril is completely photoshopped her nose was never that big! You can see pictures of her from when she’s 16 and 17 when she first came out and her nose has never looked like that! She’s always had a small pointed nose. I remember when complicated came out. I loved her when I was younger. I have been around since she first came out

[@ericfriendzoned1303]

Tbf Sum41 took a break for a years around this time.... Deryk Wembly was her bf at that time

[@jessicamason5015]

Was the name Melissa written on Avrils hand photo shopped on or was it real, cause if its real, then who is Melissa?

[@brentonmaddocks836]

In August 2001 Avril (French Bastille Princess) found her Brigadier who was attended a Military Recruitment, manpower recruitment YOU session at Melbourne Defence Plaza, Australia. He was discovered as being an esteemed (meme writer) to the Emperor of Aztec (pre-Columbia Kingdoms of Bolivia, Chile and Peru). He had been given the opportunity to meme Directives for a formal Military, Elfish Marshalls. An avenue with four echelons of command, crown, emperor, three, and four (tribal karma). It was during these events that Avril found him and they rose to be Princess and Prince of the French Bastille Emperor’s Domain. The Brigadier was waterboarded and revived just to be waterboarded again by order of the Queen of the Commonwealth. The resulting murder left him with amnesia and the couple never recovered, eventually their lives were taken in murder-suicide in 2003, tho Brigadier was revived.

[@jeremylarson6267]

so... if unwinding something as a conspiracy theory is tied to people wanting to feel better and safe, what does the hitler is still alive in south america indicate? how does hitler still being alive make people feel better and safe? does that mean hitler really is still alive in south america?

[@davidmoss8993]

Can you do a reaction to The Beatles Love album mixed by Giles Martin Caroline.

[@twitchdrumm3r917]

OK first thing the clothing change means she matured from girl to woman it happens all the time in the music industry also your voice never stays the same as you age and can change very quickly from vocal lessons and learning how to actually sing as vocal cords mature or like in Miley Cyrus case because of vocal cord damage and or surgery so based on just those two factors alone this theory is pretty far fetched and dumb

[@tobyhysonmusic]

Hey, Caroline! I've been watching quite a few of your Beatles reaction videos, and right now I'm listening to your discography on Spotify. I just think you're extremely underrated as a musician, and I absolutely adore your music. Favourite song by far is Unsinkable! Just needed to tell a fellow musician that you are awesome, never give up doing the things you love!

[@benjaminstuardo7771]

Ily Caroline, luv yer videos. Keep doing amazing stuff c:

[@cricketbat09]

It is entirely true. Melissa is a great substitute for Avril.

[@matthewcooper3877]

Ha ha , love it Cazza double. 😂😂

[@NevadaLamb]

What I don’t get is why would they bother?? Someone like John Lennon I could see it, but Avril? No disrespect to her, but there wasn’t anything super unique about her that would warrant the record label doing this.

[@sourisvoleur4854]

Spines do shrink but usually much later in life as disks compress.

[@GoldClaw7]

I dont think the blogger here is making a testament to how what they are saying is not actually real. They are making a testament that reality I'd wilder than we can imagine while at the same time right in our faces.

[@HabaneroTi]

Caroline, I watched and loved all of your Beatles reaction videos along with others that I really enjoyed (as you well know), but I have to say that this is by far your best video to date, because unlike all the others it's not just about the stated subject matter, be it a conspiracy theory, album or song, but also and especially about the things that underlie it, be it what made the Beatles so popular, good and successful, why is Joni Mitchell's music so great, or, in this instance, why do so many people believe in even the silliest and most demonstrably untrue or unlikely conspiracy theories. So, well done, Caroline, and bravo! I should also add that as your skills as a KZbin video creator improve, both technically and presentation-wise, I have to wonder if you're aiming to someday do this for a living, as a sort of freelance or independent video journalist, focusing mostly on music-related topics but perhaps others as well, who doesn't just do this for fun and kicks and maybe a couple of bucks here and there on the side. I mean you already do this for fun here, quite well, and for an actual living, elsewhere, so why the heck not? It doesn't have to be instead of your music career, but in addition to it. Just wondering and all the best. 😀

[@wencireone]

So when was Cazza replaced conspiracy 🤔

[@freedom4mealways]

Her facial features keep changing. Her body type keeps changing. Her voice keeps changing. Why does she not make a sworn statement that she, as Avril Lavigne, has appeared that Avril Lavigne in all Avril Lavigne appearances?

[@SecretAgentPaul]

So who did kill Lady Di? Was it The Royal Family or MI5?

[@coeburnett]

Nice reasoning! Maybe you've seen the post by VOX. "Who put these circles in the Sahara. A well-presented exploration, where the truth is clearly shown. This is your mind also! Of course, you are singer songwriter, but your mind is a digger, and very stable at that. Keep going!!

[@yomigonzalez9870]

If we go by the voice changes, then Madonna is not Madonna. Listen to her sing "like a Virgin" vs say "The power of goodbye". Her voice back then was much higher toned. Or, maybe, voices change with age, weight, health?

[@freedom4mealways]

Avril Lavigne, or the person who originally appeared as Avril Lavigne, is alive. It is just other people have appeared as Avril Lavigne since 2002.

[@SnabbKassa]

Maybe the people who think a dress counts as fancy are the people who wear pyjamas in Walmart.

[@TheEWFX29]

I'm no Avril Lavigne fan or a conspiracy theorist but that was interesting. Good job.

[@addye6447]

Wheres the body double tho lol

[@OtherLetter]

You’re funny, wry professor Caroline.

[@jnagarya519]

For most of my life I was 5 feet 6 1/4 inches tall. More recently my height was measured as 5 feet 5 1/4 inches. I WANT A SECOND OPINION! Someone used the economical model ruler with the inches reduced in length!

[@Morgyborgyblob]

The more autographs a person signs, the shorter their signature becomes. It's an economy of movement thing.

[@missmax918]

And surely none of the vocal range changes or height differences can be explained by her having Lyme disease and being bed ridden for a while… none of her (if even there) slight appearance anomalies can be explained by that at all… and yeah… no one has ever changed their hair color or clothing style before. And her signature is different?! Well shut the front door, case closed! I definitely didn’t go through many signatures before settling on one, nor does it vary slightly every time I use it! 🤣🙄🤣🙄🤣 I mean what do I know as someone whose first name is the same as the alleged double’s who wore the same style she did in high school because I related to her… I mean… I definitely didn’t wear a tie because this cool girl who is 4 years older than me did… good grief. 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@neddyladdy]

uuummmm, who is/was Avril Lavigne

[@SecretAgentPaul]

Someone more famous than you and me put together

[@neddyladdy]

@@SecretAgentPaul That can't be possible, surely.

[@SecretAgentPaul]

@@neddyladdy sad but true. 😥

[@manning0]

Like you touched on, there needs to be a motive for these conspiracy theories and the motive is almost always money. In the early 2000s was there a lot of money on the line? Yes, loads! So understandable why it would be believed then. A body double comes in to keep making the record companies millions. Would there be the same motive in the 10s or even the 2020s? No! Her popularity is a fraction of what it was and so the money she's making will also be a fraction of what it was. Why go through all this trouble still? Do you think the public at large would be asking where Avril has been for the last 20 years? No, she'd be forgotten about and no one would care.

[@sonyaskinner2981]

I think that they switched places and nobody actually died if u look at the older pics of them Melissa had perfect veneers so why I went on tik tok to see Melissa and Avril what happened to Melissa's perfect veneers from long ago ya never know it could've been to much for Avril and she had the option to just switch places and nobody would know

[@thomasrenton4499]

I did enjoy today’s video! Even though I barely know who Avril Levin is. Or how to spell her name.

[@corinnegermanotta3590]

It blows my mind how in a lot of situations people never go for the questions and evidence that would resolve the situation. You brought up all the weakest evidence. Look at interviews from 2003 & 2004 and compare them and see if there’s a change. That’s the only legitimate way to make this video. It’s like the situation with Imane Khelif - almost no one was asking WHAT DSD he has. Almost everyone on both sides were just debating irrelevant points. Btw he has 5-ARD with full androgen sensitivity.

[@zzquickszzxbl6046]

So was the Melissa in the future the one singing or was that actually avril? You should have been more specific there.

[@jnagarya519]

It's all about viewing everything as entertainment and gibberish "fan fiction" that is ultimately destructive.

[@somethingyousaid5059]

I hope there's not another one of me out there somewhere.

[@Just-Juli]

I hope you made all these comments and explanations for clicks and new subscriptions. Otherwise, I am flabbergasted!

[@SecretAgentPaul]

Good Caroline wore different clothes and makeup to Evil Caroline.

[@docsavage8640]

I read she's actually the daughter of Paul McCartney replacement.

[@jnagarya519]

Wait -- she killed herself but didn't?

[@craigfazekas3923]

Good stuff, ty Caroline !! I think you become more cute as time goes on.... Looking forward to your next offering. 🚬😎

[@jgamb914]

this was interesting...😊

[@davidmoss8993]

Can you do the Moon landing conspiracy Caroline.

[@achebwahs1111]

Dolly the sheep is not the only clone..... Damn, just heard you say it was a hoax. WHY?

[@artursandwich1974]

🙂👍 this is the first time I ever hear about the conspiracy.

[@zahira_rania]

reaction album rumours - fleetwood mac

[@salernolake]

Patreon. Hey Caroline! I knew there was a reason why I liked you ... you're a mezzo! From my singing days, the drama in the choir always originated with the soprano, while the mezzo was the sensible one. We had a soprano whose last name was Fairbairn, the male tenors in the choir secretly called her "Fur-brain" 😂😂🤣🤣

[@shesonfire_]

It’s called growing up. lol. People get taller and their style changes. My face doesn’t look like it did when I was seventeen. Nor does my voice sound the same. Why is it so hard for ppl to believe people grow and change?😂😂

[@PogieJoe]

It's good for us all to be aware of the biases you outlined in the video with how rampantly misinformation spreads these days! Anywho, I hope Avril is having a lovely day today.

[@HabaneroTi]

Hmm, I just posted a semi-longish (3 paragraphs) comment praising this video and discussing some other things, and it was hidden. Could this be yet another conspiracy theory in the making...🤣 Caroline, was it something I said?!? 😆 Just pared it down a bit, still hidden. Weird. I guess that even amazingly epic Patrons get blocked and hidden. 😮

[@zedxxx9]

I was right! I knew you were Caroline's twin... the real and authentic Caroline listened to Beatles albums and sixties music... NOT Nirvana and Avril Lavigne's body double!!

[@parker9627]

You remind me of Dana Scully ❤️

[@KaiLucasZachary]

WTF is a "refined" nose?

[@jnagarya519]

Probably by young males. Perhaps her body shape changed.

[@carlgarnett8817]

Yes hello it's me again Carl Supertramp Garnett hi there Caroline with a nice voice and you are very smart girl from Canada Toronto Scarborough Ontario Carl's Supertramp Garnett have a great week Carl God bless be safe

[@taylorbrown7625]

I don't care what anybody says. Avril died in 2003 and was replaced.

[@wencireone]

Well you seem to be the perfect double 🤣🤣

[@jpducati916]

Senseless rant

[@gejuje]

Great video, after seeing so many conspiracy theories over the years though, i have come to the conclusion that the main reason for them is, that there`s a huge number of idiots and nutcases outthere, who never bothers to read or check on anything😄

[@queenofdaydreams3825]

💖💖💖

[@stephenelliott522]

Another great video! You know, you are a bit different than before you went on your last break. What happened to the real Caroline? We all know people never change! But seriously, always good to see your videos! Go Caroline!

[@thegman8968]

WOW! I have never heard of this conspiracy theory before, (I must have been living under a rock). This was quite interesting to say the least, and you made it a lot of fun, too! I agree whole heartedly with the theory that many people just need to feel superior to others, and so they glom onto ridiculous conspiracies in order to feel like they have some kind of "wisdom" which only they possess. It's both amusing and sad at the same time. 😏🤔

[@louisb5563]

Wow, I wasn't aware of this...crazy "evidence" they have😒🙄😏 I liked your way of stating the obvious, fun! I enjoyed your analysis... you "secret twin" you!!!✌😉

[@corinnegermanotta3590]

You’re just making me think the conspiracy is true even more. Your arguments are weak. Especially about sopranos “being able to hit low notes” - it’s a fact that they can not sing as low as altos.

[@stephenbonaci4831]

If there's one guaranteed way to tell someone is a different person, it's that they're wearing different clothes. There's more than one Caroline? Impossible! You're truly one of a kind. ;)

[@CallMeCaroline]

Oh no, they’re onto me haha

[@tatjbere]

Great video again, I don't believe in conspiracy theories aswell but still instresting to hear and know about which exist 👏👏