The Awesome Perun Rifle is Now in .308: Tinck Arms X-17

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‪@JamesReeves‬ is with Ziga of ‪@PolenarTactical‬ to talk about the Tinck Perun X-17. The Tinck Arms Perun X-17 is a versatile and innovative .308 caliber semi-automatic rifle that blends the reliability and ease of maintenance of a patented operating system with the robustness of the AR-10 platform. With barrel lengths ranging from approximately 12.5" to 18", and a weight of 3.7 kg, the Perun X-17 caters to a broad spectrum of shooting disciplines, from sports and hobby shooting to military and law enforcement applications.
Key features of the Perun X-17 include its high modularity, compatibility with AR-10 platform parts like pistol grips, stocks, triggers, safeties, and magazine ejections, as well as AR-10 type magazines. It's designed for both right- and left-handed users, thanks to its ambidextrous controls. The Perun X-17 distinguishes itself with an innovative gas distribution system that ensures reliability and simplifies maintenance, making it a standout choice for those seeking a high-quality, adaptable, and user-friendly firearm in the .308 caliber range.
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@TheSpongeDoc
@TheSpongeDoc 7 ай бұрын
The dick slap with the mic at the outro was PHENOMENAL. True bro shit.
@hood182ie
@hood182ie 7 ай бұрын
felt it in the PERUNeum
@g54b95
@g54b95 7 ай бұрын
Cut! Print. Gay.
@bendabutcha
@bendabutcha 7 ай бұрын
So funny 😂
@PolenarTactical
@PolenarTactical 7 ай бұрын
I'm glad to see that my pain give you such joy in life
@aaronhollenbeckakahellfire107
@aaronhollenbeckakahellfire107 7 ай бұрын
I was genuinely not expecting that. made me spit out my cider. You had my curiosity, but now you have my attention. Good vid!
@bendabutcha
@bendabutcha 7 ай бұрын
The nut tap at the end just tied the room together 😂
@ianray8823
@ianray8823 7 ай бұрын
ZIGAAAAA thats my Ziga right there
@rdsii64
@rdsii64 7 ай бұрын
Ziga Please!!!
@MF-Rell
@MF-Rell 7 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@ashfield4313
@ashfield4313 7 ай бұрын
I've been following this platform for over a year. If the PSA Jakl .308 wasn't announced at the last SHOT Show, then I would've sprung for the Perun.
@Lee-pr4zt
@Lee-pr4zt 7 ай бұрын
When I clicked on the video I was like "whatever" Then I listened to this guy talk for half a minute and started looking for retailers.
@johnsanko4136
@johnsanko4136 7 ай бұрын
Honestly looks pretty sweet. Ziga must be checking out options for next year's Finnish Brutality.
@ivan____________________973
@ivan____________________973 7 ай бұрын
I dont think he's ready to give up ak's.
@Toledotourbillion
@Toledotourbillion 7 ай бұрын
AR15 is like your wife.😂
@Crangaso
@Crangaso 7 ай бұрын
Better it doesn't talk ish
@tomasteply1956
@tomasteply1956 7 ай бұрын
"It shits where it eats" 😂
@InkwellFoto
@InkwellFoto 6 ай бұрын
I'm in the comment section for this quote
@hkfifty871
@hkfifty871 7 ай бұрын
There really is a lot that, from a logistics standpoint, is just very appealing about the Perun. Keeping probably 90% of the critical parts and accessories compatible with the existing AR aftermarket is genuinely awesome, and it’s a mindset I wish more companies would adopt (instead of everything being proprietary). Honestly, the only part about the rifle I’m not wild on (besides the price) is the need for a permanently modified AR lower. I understand why they did it the way they did (and from a production and design standpoint, it was probably the right decision) but I can’t help but wish there was a way to run it on a standard AR lower.
@Schregger
@Schregger 7 ай бұрын
Sounds like the .308 JAKL is what you are looking for then.
@wolfsworkshop9095
@wolfsworkshop9095 7 ай бұрын
The thing is that it makes more sense if youre trying to move away from buffer tube designs and want to make it compatible with "big boy" stocks like scar ones
@pak0pak
@pak0pak 7 ай бұрын
This is by far the best interview of IWA and SHOT Show LOL
@alexanderren1097
@alexanderren1097 6 ай бұрын
Well yeah. Because it’s Ziga!
@less_drama_more_climbing
@less_drama_more_climbing Ай бұрын
I have bought my X17 two months ago because I saw this video. Before I did not know Tinck Arms existed and I am from Slovenia.
@juncho1977
@juncho1977 7 ай бұрын
The Perun Stroke
@DaedalusHelios
@DaedalusHelios 7 ай бұрын
This guy is a great salesman. I am impressed with the platform, too. 😮
@voteholyk
@voteholyk 7 ай бұрын
I love the guys from Polenar and I really want one of these rifles.
@EOTechN9ne
@EOTechN9ne 7 ай бұрын
I really like the aesthetic of the perun rifle for some reason.
@ZeHamberglar
@ZeHamberglar 7 ай бұрын
I love this guy.
@krockpotbroccoli65
@krockpotbroccoli65 7 ай бұрын
Slav spacemagic direct gas impistonment kinda ar10. Much interesting.
@user-tv4lz5ie5u
@user-tv4lz5ie5u 7 ай бұрын
"Direct gas impistonment": I'm saving that for personal use later. Simply perfect.
@PureCountryof91
@PureCountryof91 7 ай бұрын
HAC-7 v3.2
@randomguy-z2l
@randomguy-z2l 7 ай бұрын
wow this looks really good
@ericmitchell985
@ericmitchell985 7 ай бұрын
I see Ziga, I click.
@p.t.anderson1593
@p.t.anderson1593 7 ай бұрын
I really like that the Tinck X-17 gets rid of one of the AR-10 non standardized features with the deletion of the buffer tube tower. A few minutes on my mill and all AR-10 lowers should work?
@f308gtb1977
@f308gtb1977 7 ай бұрын
I think that’s what Žiga said in another comment.
@f308gtb1977
@f308gtb1977 7 ай бұрын
Well, certain patterns possibly. As far as I recall, the main difference between incompatible AR .308 lowers was the extension tower you’re discarding, but there could be some where the pivot doesn’t match, not sure. (There isn’t a standard.)
@p.t.anderson1593
@p.t.anderson1593 7 ай бұрын
@@f308gtb1977 The first time I built an AR-10 was a much steeper learning curve than my first AR-15. I think I found most of the "variables" and I had close to half the parts left over to assemble another one... Printing a lower for the Perun makes a lot of sense. It's what I would do if I lived in a free state. The upper can be shipped to your door, once again, if you live in a free state...
@ooster0000
@ooster0000 7 ай бұрын
I bought an X-16 in america from AEA Arms last month on the 12th of February. And my FFL only received the upper 4 days ago. No lower no FFL documents I payed 2400 dollars for a complete rifle. I noticed shipping issues from the day they sent me a shipping label on the 26th of February. They sent me a UPS link with a fedex tracking code in an email which doesnt work. And after 5 days of the tracking code saying the item hasn’t moved I sent them an email if there was an issue with my order. To which they replied no everything is fine. Their website says 5-7 business days of shipping. It’s been 10 business days with no lower receiver. And 4 days of complete radio silence with both me and my FFL dealer. They aren’t answering their phone or responding to emails from either of us. I got an automated email from them asking to review their product. So apparently I’m supposed to have the item in hand already. But I do not. Their customer service is not showing me any integrity so far.
@PolenarTactical
@PolenarTactical 7 ай бұрын
AEA Arms is the main reason why we didn't work closely with marketing the X16 despite Tink Arms being a Slovenian company. When they became the US distributor we called them about the possibility of cooperation and their ideas were just so foreign and illogical to us that we backed away. The beauty of X16 system is that you should be able to buy an upper kit without any restricted or serialized parts and then go online and buy your favourite AR barrel, bolt and other functional parts. For the lower you could sacrifice one that you already have or just 3D print it - we tried it and it works perfectly because there are no forces applied to it. But AEA Arms didn't want to sell only uppers or kits because in their words, US has a very strict legal regulations and they could get sued... Also their assembled rifles that they sell look atrocious. I havent shot with these US builds but i have heard that some people had problems with reliability. So i perfectly understand your frustration and i sincerely hope that Tink Arms gets a better US distributor that knows the laws and actually cares about the gun owners
@charleslowrey9309
@charleslowrey9309 7 ай бұрын
Had a very similar issue with an upper I ordered, but it took 10 months to get it. Kept getting a reply of they will be here next month.
@ooster0000
@ooster0000 7 ай бұрын
@@PolenarTactical Thanks for the response. I realize that AEA doesn’t represent Tinck arms, and I’m hoping any reliability aspects lie with the lower. Likely I will end up finding a better lower in the future, and finding someone to cut the buffer tower shouldn’t be difficult in my area. Hopefully a new distributer will show up in the future.
@abucket4347
@abucket4347 6 ай бұрын
@@PolenarTactical I purchased a builders kit from them and it runs well! I sacrificed a blem wilson combat lower and built my rifle. They also are selling uppers on their website now.
@danmaran
@danmaran 7 ай бұрын
Fuck the rifle, when are we getting those IFAK's in the states?
@PolenarTactical
@PolenarTactical 7 ай бұрын
We have those available on our website and im not sure if it's completely legal but we ship those anywhere, even to the US 😅
@f308gtb1977
@f308gtb1977 7 ай бұрын
@@PolenarTactical P.T. rocks.💪🏻
@ohhyuuken
@ohhyuuken 7 ай бұрын
I could feel the magic in this video.
@89sirmonk
@89sirmonk 7 ай бұрын
Thats a slick system
@haroldfarquad6886
@haroldfarquad6886 7 ай бұрын
Slovenia is also, arguably, the most beautiful country in the world.
@Snarknado5
@Snarknado5 7 ай бұрын
it’s like Austria or Switzerland but with cheap beer
@GentjanShkodra
@GentjanShkodra 5 ай бұрын
​@@Snarknado5what?be serious please.No money there, only alkool.
@charleslowrey9309
@charleslowrey9309 7 ай бұрын
Not sure how I feel about my X16 upper. Need to tweek the gas setting superlative gas block has two methods of adjustment restrictive and bypass. Restrictive is dirty, had to make gas adjustments going from 55 grain to 77 grain. Need to play with the bypass setting. Put a BA lower with SOLGW parts kit, SOLGW 50 degree safety, Geissele SSA-E, and BCM grip on it. Pretty heavy set up, but ballances pretty well. Upper was a little over 1700. Got around 2100 in it without an optic. Not worth it IMO unless you are into collecting. Took me 10 months to get the upper that was initally supposed to take 2 months at the longest.
@raddoctor5569
@raddoctor5569 7 ай бұрын
DOH, nut shot at the end.
@justcallmejoeable
@justcallmejoeable 7 ай бұрын
"...ze gas uhh...chamber"
@kenadams2124
@kenadams2124 7 ай бұрын
NGL😂 I totally lost it at the AR-15 -Wife Joke😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@theBullStarr
@theBullStarr 7 ай бұрын
Kick stroke system 👍
@PureCountryof91
@PureCountryof91 7 ай бұрын
Tim at MAC has a .308 Perun.. he posted the video last year. It was a prototype but still qualifies
@martyr77
@martyr77 7 ай бұрын
James is lying about the figs and apricots... he is a banana guy. LARGE BANANA guy. Hop told me.
@sethperry1323
@sethperry1323 7 ай бұрын
I have been so tempted to get the perun x16 build kit the past few weeks.. I had it in my cart an then back out😂.... 12.5" 6mm max perun x16 would be coyote hunting machine 🎉... that front end just kills it for me though.. im trying to like it! 😢
@phillyboinkin9327
@phillyboinkin9327 5 ай бұрын
the height over bore seems insane with this but it sure looks cool
@waltermatthewberg
@waltermatthewberg 7 ай бұрын
I ordered one of these last October and it was suppose to be delivered at the end of October then the website changed and said "late November" then it changed again and said "end of January 2024" and it still says that. I emailed AEA Arms asking what the hold up was and they said they didn't know why the shipment from Slovenia was taking so long. Then AEA said they got their shipment of Perun uppers but there was an issue with the machining where the stock attaches so they had to send all the uppers back to Slovenia to get worked on. They told me that in December. I'm just curious if that was really the issue or if something's terribly wrong.
@waltermatthewberg
@waltermatthewberg 6 ай бұрын
I got an update from Tinck: "Hello, cooperation with the distributor in the US is not exactly at an exemplary level. There were no problems with the delivery or quality of goods. If I understand correctly, AEA has problems with lower receivers that are manufactured in the USA." So I think they need a new distributor. AEA has been a headache to deal with. I'll email them again to see how my order is going because it's been a couple months since I last bugged them. I'm not ready to cancel the order because I really want this gun and they might make my head hurt more if I ask for my $2,800 back
@InvidiousIgnoramus
@InvidiousIgnoramus 7 ай бұрын
Not sure why he was being secretive about US availability, I'm pretty sure shortly after the X-16 was getting imported they said the X-17 would follow. Just hoping this time around the importer comes up with a receiver that can utilize an ambi bolt catch or something, I don't really want to hack up a VERY expensive AR-10 receiver. Edit: actually, I just double checked. AEA, the US importer, does have preorders up for 2400 bucks.
@p.t.anderson1593
@p.t.anderson1593 7 ай бұрын
Pint your receiver then... X-16/X-17 was made for that.
@sealove79able
@sealove79able 7 ай бұрын
a great neat very interesting delicious video and rifle Mr Reeves.have a good one Mr Reeves.
@beck4218
@beck4218 7 ай бұрын
Heavy boi!
@herknorth8691
@herknorth8691 7 ай бұрын
A stronk contender.
@dieselfrk13
@dieselfrk13 7 ай бұрын
I like the operating system pretty neat.
@Osprey1994
@Osprey1994 7 ай бұрын
Prune .308, pretty cool.
@user-om5or5bi1p
@user-om5or5bi1p 7 ай бұрын
The real reason James Reeves enjoys IWA so much is the greater ratio of docking consorts
@esimpson4718
@esimpson4718 7 ай бұрын
What is with all the jakl comparisons in the comments recently. The jakl is an ok rifle but is by no means an exemplary platform.
@stevennewman4778
@stevennewman4778 7 ай бұрын
Marketing works
@ricks.1092
@ricks.1092 7 ай бұрын
The Jakl is a range toy per se. It's not a serious combat rifle. And it's heavy for what it is. And heats up terribly after a mag and half. The barrel is way to thick for 5.56mm. I could on. No need for a sled for the charging handle. The Jakl should've really looked closely at how IWI did the operating system on the X-95. The X-95 is a proved combat rifle, using a long stroke gas system....and with no sled for charging it. I wish PSA would come out with a Gen2 Jakl and address these issues. As well as, the weight and heating issue. A 5.56mm shouldn't be 9 to 9.5 lbs with a fully loaded mag. A full mag is about 1 lbs.
@Dawn_Raider
@Dawn_Raider 7 ай бұрын
he is pissing on the AR15 crowd 😂
@PetrosArgy
@PetrosArgy 7 ай бұрын
I want me some of dat thundah and LIGHTNING!
@JoshuaCalvert80
@JoshuaCalvert80 7 ай бұрын
I own the X16 and if I wouldn't already own another .308 I would buy a X17. Looks good on James though.
@markgreen1782
@markgreen1782 7 ай бұрын
That is cool!
@garfieldmartinez87
@garfieldmartinez87 7 ай бұрын
Get this to the US!
@Bernie_747
@Bernie_747 7 ай бұрын
Will this be available in 🇦🇹 ? If yes, when ?
@the7observer
@the7observer 7 ай бұрын
AR15: the crab of gun designs
@cinemantics231
@cinemantics231 7 ай бұрын
The first guy risked a divorce to make a point. That's commitment you can't buy.
@VladiSSius
@VladiSSius 7 ай бұрын
Legit thought Perun the KZbinr made a rifle off his name xD
@yuriys.6352
@yuriys.6352 7 ай бұрын
I like it
@Genesis23OPB
@Genesis23OPB 7 ай бұрын
the hight over bore is a bit much, no?
@albertptran
@albertptran 7 ай бұрын
Nice
@SamSam-ih6nt
@SamSam-ih6nt 4 ай бұрын
Wow 10mm only I didn't know
@JanKowalski-m7r
@JanKowalski-m7r 7 ай бұрын
Perun, you say
@berettaguy923
@berettaguy923 7 ай бұрын
And I thought they just made really good jams and jellies.
@ashman0071
@ashman0071 4 ай бұрын
Guy knows .556 is a plinking round - not a defense round, unless you are being attacked by varmints .......
@kevspss
@kevspss 7 ай бұрын
Where’s Manca?
@f308gtb1977
@f308gtb1977 7 ай бұрын
Caring for their newborn.
@PolenarTactical
@PolenarTactical 7 ай бұрын
at home with the baby
@kevspss
@kevspss 7 ай бұрын
@@PolenarTactical 👍
@dustinalexander1829
@dustinalexander1829 7 ай бұрын
No audio?
@richiecarang
@richiecarang 7 ай бұрын
Yessir daddy Slovenia right there. Man, isn't he beautiful.
@gregkollaeg2365
@gregkollaeg2365 7 ай бұрын
Doesn't the IWI Tavore work like this?
@esimpson4718
@esimpson4718 7 ай бұрын
This rifle shares zero in common with the jakl aside from some ar15 parts compatability, I get that you purchased a jakl and are happy with it, but it is honestly getting annoying seeing people compare completely different rifles with different operating systems to the jakl.
@iowa_lot_to_travel9471
@iowa_lot_to_travel9471 6 ай бұрын
A perun is a dried plum. Usually turned into juice. And helps people go 💩 😅😊
@hopewilliams6705
@hopewilliams6705 7 ай бұрын
Sorry buddy but I think you meant to say the AR and not AR tenwas the most accessorized platform in the Western hemisphere...
@MrDoverfield
@MrDoverfield 7 ай бұрын
Did he say Jigga? Last time checked his name was Ziga
@hood182ie
@hood182ie 7 ай бұрын
Žiga
@TFBTVShowTime
@TFBTVShowTime 7 ай бұрын
Zhigga not Tsigga
@toddparsons2980
@toddparsons2980 7 ай бұрын
👍
@dylankroll
@dylankroll 7 ай бұрын
How much is it going to cost me… To have you sack tap me like that?
@Manco65
@Manco65 7 ай бұрын
🤣
@wz5046
@wz5046 7 ай бұрын
I want…
@slovencleta
@slovencleta 7 ай бұрын
Where are all you retards getting the Jakl comparison from, that is a long stroke system. The whole point of this thing is that it doesn't have a piston out front to keep it "DI light" and that it vents gases before they reach the action. And it most likely goes through a thorough QC process which I doubt happens to a PSA product.
@ShootAUT
@ShootAUT 7 ай бұрын
So it's a long gas short stroke system... ... like me after some chili and a few vodkas.
@KingKong-bo7nk
@KingKong-bo7nk 7 ай бұрын
How you just out there cup checking Zelenskyy
@SamSam-ih6nt
@SamSam-ih6nt 4 ай бұрын
I want
@misternitro1
@misternitro1 7 ай бұрын
NGL, im gonna buy one just cause of the dick play
@ryanwozencroft
@ryanwozencroft 7 ай бұрын
More of a fig guy, I like apricots 😂
@douglasalcorn8627
@douglasalcorn8627 7 ай бұрын
They are trying to do a good thing. It's difficult to improve on the standard AR platform otherwise Known as God's rifle.
@MarkyMan316
@MarkyMan316 7 ай бұрын
Had the 300 BO and it was unreliable. Being an unknown platform amongst 99.99% of the gun community, it was also a hard sell once I dumped it.
@Gwarclownman
@Gwarclownman 7 ай бұрын
How's your liver holding up James ?
@datboi__
@datboi__ 7 ай бұрын
Deehs is why
@Sheppard2030
@Sheppard2030 7 ай бұрын
Not the FAK!!
@MbisonBalrog
@MbisonBalrog 7 ай бұрын
I thought Ziga was Zelensky in the thumbnail. I am like dang, "James Reeves is checking out Zelensky arsenal courtesy of the US taxpayers". I have to see this.
@ericokurowski
@ericokurowski 7 ай бұрын
More AR-15s are sold in a day than will be sold in this guns entire existence…
@Stahlbrand
@Stahlbrand 7 ай бұрын
I'm sure if they really tried, they could increase the height over bore a little more.
@philliplatham4256
@philliplatham4256 7 ай бұрын
👍🏻👍🏻🇺🇸🇺🇸💯💯🔫🔫🍺🍺
@garyterwilliger1456
@garyterwilliger1456 6 ай бұрын
Maybe in Europe. But in America, you get another wife. Preferably one that can cook lasagna.
@akmarksman
@akmarksman 7 ай бұрын
Adams Arms P2 is an American made 308 AR-10 that costs less, while being a piston operated system. It also weighs .2kg less. I'll stick with buying American.
@Hiddencomment007
@Hiddencomment007 7 ай бұрын
A proper mans gun says the ogre. How dare you bash mericas ar15
@seanalexander8573
@seanalexander8573 7 ай бұрын
Yea about a 3k us price ..hard pass
@Broodjemetbeleg
@Broodjemetbeleg 6 ай бұрын
Zelenski selling guns now huh 🤣
@fr3d_fly351
@fr3d_fly351 7 ай бұрын
Gonna take this gun as seriously as this clown.
@unearthlyenemy
@unearthlyenemy 7 ай бұрын
absolutely brutal
@blessedbaphomet
@blessedbaphomet 7 ай бұрын
The one in the mirror 🪞🤡? Gtfo
@aussiviking604
@aussiviking604 7 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, a ridiculous high bore axis!!!! Stoner nails that and almost unbeatable ergonomic configuration.
@kdglock4491
@kdglock4491 7 ай бұрын
An expensive jakl
@lililililililili8667
@lililililililili8667 7 ай бұрын
how dare these poolish people talk bad about the ar15
@jacobdeem8187
@jacobdeem8187 7 ай бұрын
Imagine paying 3k for anything from Turkey lol
@esimpson4718
@esimpson4718 7 ай бұрын
This rifle is not from turkey nor does it cost $3000
@blessedbaphomet
@blessedbaphomet 7 ай бұрын
Say it with me. Slovenia. Idiot.
@jacobdeem8187
@jacobdeem8187 7 ай бұрын
@@blessedbaphomet your mom is quite fond of me
@rickypickles2219
@rickypickles2219 7 ай бұрын
the shit talking on ARs is kinda cringy. then to say oh and u can use all your AR parts….just a bad sell. cool rifle but just makes me want to get an LMT in 308 this summer. i think i will
@joelriggs9153
@joelriggs9153 7 ай бұрын
So an AR10 JAKL
@KD-lb9bg
@KD-lb9bg 7 ай бұрын
Hey look, an overpriced JAKL, Lol. Love how his strongest selling point is running down the AR15.
@f308gtb1977
@f308gtb1977 7 ай бұрын
Not like a Jakl and not from Turkey, so…
@ShimomuraTakezoWong
@ShimomuraTakezoWong 7 ай бұрын
What's the overall weight for the 12.5"/18" barrel...
@LeaveItToBeaner
@LeaveItToBeaner 7 ай бұрын
Overpriced jakl. He ran his mouth about the ar platform like it isn’t the premier platform for militaries and law enforcement agencies around the world
@frankopanklaric
@frankopanklaric 7 ай бұрын
Lol wut?
@ethanking4954
@ethanking4954 7 ай бұрын
❄️❄️❄️ take a couple deep breaths
@JohnQuickWick
@JohnQuickWick 7 ай бұрын
He's a salesman..
@Hiddencomment007
@Hiddencomment007 7 ай бұрын
It's a g36 mixed with a jakl. Trasssssshhhhhh
@glennbarr5459
@glennbarr5459 7 ай бұрын
Slow your roll bro.. the x17 is nothing like a jakl
@BeingFireRetardant
@BeingFireRetardant 7 ай бұрын
There is a surprising amount of hivemind smoothbrain mumblefuk in this comment section... Misplaced loyalties, comparisons based solely on external shapes, misunderstandings as to the real root cause reasons for AR platform popularity, and an oddly large number of people who don't fully comprehend the term country of origin. Yep, the gun community, doing itself no favors, by not comprehending how refinement in mature technologies work. Excellent show of unity, guys... Perhaps, maybe just recognize the AR10 is far from perfect, and could use some overall platform improvement. Never get pissed that you have too many good options to choose from.
@TheBradyrulez
@TheBradyrulez 7 ай бұрын
The issue with the AR10 is one of standardization. Without one universal specification, parts compatibility can't be guaranteed across manufacturers. So a MARS H, SR-25, DD5, etc... can all be fantastic rifles in their own right, but we can't plug and play like we can with the AR15 and the milspec standard.
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