The Banned Andrew Tate Clone

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[@ericklombardo8667]

This dude Keemstar deserves an award for being the most common side character in every youtubers career.

[@Saibellus]

oscar for best supporting character in the drama category

[@Thomas_Angelo]

Keemstar was such an important part of youtube until he wasn't. There is basically no other way to put it.

[@Veuhs]

Key words: ‘Side’ character

[@leaf7997]

Ol

[@Continuee]

@@Thomas_Angelo what? Yeah if you’re mentally challenged it’s hard to explain🤣😂Keemstar started his career as a troll and instigator, hes been doing it since cod black ops 2, started his KZbin and rose cause of controversies /reporting controversies , but then people started waking up and realizing it’s probably not a good idea to support a problematic gnome, and he fell back down

[@Frank-pp9iy]

It is so bizarre that I find myself so interested in mini documentaries about people I don’t know or care about

[@vawkwardbat]

I know right xD

[@KronosMancer]

Oh good I thought I was the only one, Turkey, Lanzo and even Illuminaughti Documentaries are great for passing time. Do wish TRO released more often though.

[@TheVioletBunny]

Same I never hear of any of the people he covers but I still watch to kill time and I appreciate the good editing.

[@vawkwardbat]

@@KronosMancer oh yess tro too

[@hippiehopie4618]

Yess I agree!!

[@totha098]

Damn, kinda gotta disagree with the public view about the D'Angelo Wallace response. I think his lack of response to Sneako was the best response in that situation.

[@vanillabatcave5677]

It was the more mature way to approach things since it was just a big nothing burger

[@eyesofthecervino3366]

Agreed. I don't know in what circumstances "This guy's comment triggered me so bad I needed to rant for thirty minutes about how badly he got under my thin skin" needs any kind of response.

[@ninocraft1]

yeah, don't feed the trolls

[@TheTGOAC]

I don't much like D'Angelo but he seems like a more genuine and kind person than sneako. I hope his mental issues are being taken care of and he gets better. D'Angelo, not sneako. Though I hope sneako improves as a person too.

[@BlackFlightNY]

Wallace definitely needs to worry more about himself 😂 On top of his personal issues, he himself has been associated with individuals of…questionable morality.

[@MasutaMJ]

Keemstar is unironically the center of the KZbin Cinematic Universe

[@GriffinPilgrim]

Nick Fury with a beard instead of an eyepatch.

[@brenscott5416]

​@@GriffinPilgrim or thanos lol

[@Buttergoat1]

​@@brenscott5416yeah but thanos dies, Keemstar is like a cockroach 😂 whenever he's close to dying he always comes back. Maybe he's more like William Afton from FNAF lol

[@brenscott5416]

@@Buttergoat1 you're not wrong lol

[@seangoncalves6289]

One detail you missed to include is that even the Tate brothers discarded him after inviting him over because of his behavior and lack of loyalty

[@gandalf_thegrey]

Invite your clone and throw him out because of his behaviour. Common Tate W.

[@sanadapilled]

@@gandalf_thegreyhuman trafficking common tate w

[@bojuu]

@@gandalf_thegrey "common tate w" 💀

[@syafiqjabar]

Really he won't last long with Tate. Sneako seems to the type men Tate mocks all the time.

[@pieseldatches]

NGL but that should be considered a W by Tate.

[@LegendPoptart]

keemstar is the type of person who holds the door for someone as you enter a restaurant, and then proceeds to tell you how generous an amazing he is for doing it.

[@modernbutch]

for realll hahaha. he thinks doing people favors absolves him of all culpability for all the other batshit unhinged shit that he does

[@han6061]

I love this cuz its sp true

[@MistaClip]

This is spot on lmao

[@isaac6077]

Then made a 3 hour drama stream about it cause he a cuck

[@heathella]

as a Chad Chad fan that didn't know of the drama, hearing what he said about her was so CREEPY and UNCOMFTORBLE

[@PianoPants]

Never watched chad chad but yeah man that threat was wild. Truly a fuckin awful person

[@CRClem]

Bruh same, I had no clue since I haven’t ever touched tik tok, but that clip is quite literally pretending to fuck someone who is obviously more than unwilling what the actually fu…

[@moh-b6654]

it’s so disgusting, which is why it really got me that turkey tom said he didn’t think he deserved the ban right after showing that clip

[@stinkygooby5325]

It was so disgusting to watch and i am glad he is banned

[@ninocraft1]

stop pretending to be a women online

[@Damian-sn3ix]

Sneako is the Perfect example of what having an ego can really do. It ruins everything. He had the looks, talent, chances, work ethic, ideas and threw it all (Damn I got a lot of insults cause of this comment 💀, wont be responding to any cause ultimately it is pointless and I cannot change how people think, however it just goes to show the toxic side of sneakos community)

[@larrychilders6599]

I view him as a tragedy, akin to those in Greek Myth

[@okayboozy]

@@larrychilders6599 as a sneako viewer since sneak was 13 I must agree he really flew too close to the sun and we’re watching his wings get burnt up

[@udonnauchegbu2018]

Sneako being banned is the equivalent of your sibling getting in trouble. You feel bad for them and don't want to see them punished. But at the end of the day, you're not surprised because they were told this was going to happen if they kept acting out. Sneako was told he was going too fast. He didn't listen and he suffered for it.

[@orange4191]

I feel like the consensus for sneako is that people just found him mildly entertaining and agreed with a few things, I’d say it was about 50/50 but personally old sneako is better.

[@miguelmedina1132]

He recently became a millionaire lmao he’s still striving n doing better than before

[@agmcroom2374]

I wouldn’t call him a clone, but a mere chameleon. Whatever person, being Tate at the moment, he tried really hard to emulate.

[@0uttaS1TE]

That can describe most smaller youtubers

[@jam3106]

Not really, only thing that changed is that he started streaming. He’s always been quite vocal about his views, once he started streaming as a faster way respond to repeated criticism he just happened to fall into the same space as people like Andrew Tate, The FreshNFit cast etc.

[@moufronn]

moufronn

[@societyisscaredofmasculine8546]

He's literally been talking about feminism for like 5 years.. you are talking nonsense

[@agmcroom2374]

@@societyisscaredofmasculine8546 I never mentioned anything of emulating Andrew Tate on his beliefs , but the words he uses and the way he talks.

[@toketsupuurin]

The amount of self sabotage this guy did is amazing.

[@artificialsweetner]

fr tho, like how did this guy fumble the bag at mr.beast?!??!?

[@aw2584]

So he tells Mr Beast he can't edit videos due to ADHD, Mr Beast advises him to hire an editor like every major KZbinr... and he FREAKS OUT, gets so offended he creates an "expose video"... literally acting like the stereotypical women he hates so much, extremely emotional fatherless behaviour lmao

[@consumerofbepsi5254]

@@obfuscate5639 if you're gonna use buzzwords you could at least use them in the right context dude 💀

[@michaelhall5429]

​@@obfuscate5639 projection

[@itsallenwow]

@Obfuscate Sneako level response here. Nothing responded, can only say one word that means nothing

[@jobotherobohoboanddr.rappa5073]

How can you be so “alpha” and have that happen to your girlfriend. Just be a pillar of humanity, a good person, a good boyfriend, and a good man

[@RAIN_2001]

common redpill

[@RoloTonyBrownTown69420]

I’m pretty sure rape threats, no matter how serious, should be a bannable offense. I also think bomb threats, no matter how serious, should be bannable.

[@chillaxer8273]

Im pretty sure that a joke and a threat are different things. But your weak effininate and depressed mind cant tell the difference

[@RealNick04]

He should’ve gotten a strike for the Chad Chad clip, but one of the strikes was from talking abt Covid.

[@banksrail]

@@RealNick04 KZbin is a private company that makes money off of Ads. Those companies that put Ads on KZbin will simply pull their Ads if they believe that the content is spreading misinformation or hate speech. He messed with KZbin’s bag and payed for it.

[@RealNick04]

@@banksrail ur not wrong but idk if Sneako was spreading misinformation about Covid, but its upsetting how KZbin can ban anyone for vague reasons and not follow their own rules that they enforce and ban whoever they want, although Sneako was being a douchebag to that one girl named Chad Chad in that one clip along with making stupid accusations towards Brandon Buckingham.

[@dumbfoundedkiryu9468]

@Nick so was every facet of government and news media but they're still here.

[@adamwallace7353]

He's 24 but has the maturity and self-awareness of someone half that age.

[@rjan7714]

Ironically, when he was half his age, he was much more mature than he us now.

[@gandalf_thegrey]

My brother in Christ why do you insult 12 year olds?

[@JaYLeGnD]

Man used to have good videos now all he does is shill politics calling people bots while listing his bot talking points that he's been brainwashed to believe

[@christopherdunn3094]

He got rich. At 24. How did you get rich by that age?

[@bkroberts89]

@@christopherdunn3094 Gay porn. Talk about a pain in the ass.

[@thnead]

Moral of the story: Never leave your drink with someone who likes Andrew Tate.

[@jadeblade865]

if I know a guy that likes Andrew tate it will be hard not giving into the the intrusive thoughts and not castrate him for my safety

[@lerui2820]

@@jadeblade865 see, this is the shit I hate about people like Tate. They always promote degenerate behaviour and use the shock factor as being "the waking up to reality", which I personally like to call it the "anti-woke wokeness". I don't even think they fully endorse it, I genuinely think they do it for the insane views they get. But then you have young teens, their lives' are shit, and they fall for this crap. And then people like you have your warranted reaction. And now people fight over how much of a pos they are

[@abuttnugget6753]

@@jadeblade865 Pffftttt,there's no need for that! If he's really an Andrew Tate fan then there's next to a 0% chance that he'll ever even get a girl anywhere CLOSE to to his wee-wee.

[@shenanigans5183]

@@abuttnugget6753 a bunch of dweebs fantasizing over a man that doesn’t even know they exist lmfao

[@Player-kq6fd]

But is that cardi b fans

[@BlackLabel2021]

The implication around 51:00 suggesting senority means they deserve security is INCREDIBLY dangerous. Sneako should've been wiped, as you said, way earlier.

[@BlackLabel2021]

But the problem is that you sell this as, "well they've been around for a while, so maybe don't ban them?"

[@beluga2342]

mental gymnastics 100

[@realchiknuggets]

@@beluga2342 hope you mean for tom

[@L3mon_Mylk]

The fact that Tom is able to put out such high quality long-form content like this *every week* is baffling

[@brotundo]

Hes an ai

[@Alberich_Prince_of_Dwarves]

he has a team.

[@therealharshlycritical]

He's not doing it alone. That's how he can.

[@mario167100]

He dropped out of school

[@ForgottenPassword]

He has children editing in his basement

[@saintofgayfrogs]

Sneako "talking about ADHD affecting his productivity Also Sneako "Depression isn't real"

[@knja4297]

yes depression is real but if u are depressedb just be happy

[@PinkManGuy]

@@knja4297 Just lift, bro

[@DesignerMetalPants]

@@knja4297 if you about to die just don't

[@knja4297]

@@PinkManGuy i already do

[@knja4297]

@@DesignerMetalPants jnot the same thing

[@RisingRevengeance]

When I was 16 or so I used to love arguing or "debating" with people for little reason. Thankfully I grew out of it or I might've ended up like sneako. I don't understand how someone can go through their life being so disliked.

[@iconica9516]

i really hope this saga of unfunny bait "argue just to argue" trolls die out glad you got the human decency to grow out of that i was like that one too everyone was the problem is that everyone just doesnt stop

[@AdachiCabbage]

@ben dlhk Why would anyone spend days or weeks on the internet arguing with a stranger about if Bridget is a boy or a woman? I see stuff like that as pointless.

[@Explosivewaveofnut]

i do enjoy arguing/debating with people from time to time butits not about serious stuff. usually about can X character beat Y character or something

[@Zappy-ray777]

Lmao what ?

[@Explosivewaveofnut]

@@Zappy-ray777 its exactly as he says

[@gem9535]

To be fair, he did pretend to SA someone who criticized him on a livestream. It was a warranted ban, as that is straight up s3xual harassment no matter which way you shake that stick. I'm honestly impressed that Chad Chad didn't respond to such an awful clip because you know they saw it. You know his fans blasted Chad Chad with that clip. I do think the platform has a sh*t system when it comes to giving out punishments, where it misses the mark 90% of the time, but this was definitely that 10% where it didn't miss the mark. You don't pretend to SA someone just because they criticized you and that hurt your feelings, especially on a livestream surrounded by people you know cling on to your every word. He had a responsibility and a chance to show people how to appropriately respond to criticism and he honestly could not have responded in a worse way. Now, being unprofessional itself should not be a bannable offense, but pretending to SA someone on a livestream? Oh yeah, totally. While we're at it, let's get the police involved and put him on The List. He can be a woman-hater until his little heart bursts with joy, but that was 50 Shades of Never Okay.

[@sparkypikachu7776]

Honestly this! I'm getting sick of both side aguing and arguing and arguing abt this that and blah blah blah But yeah honestly threatening SA in ANY way should be a ban. Like u said outside of that yeah other reasons can be messy alot of the time but I think we need to be careful with censorship AND letting ppl say what they want. Either one gone too far can end disastrously. And that's coming from someone who really values the "say what you want to say" mentality, doesn't mean consequences don't exist, but there's nuances to that like everything.

[@kittycst]

It wasn't a rape joke? Wasn't it just a sex joke

[@Madametitties]

@@kittycst He is literally saying that she should have sense fucked into her? If that's not encouraging SA idk what is.

[@kittycst]

@:D thats not what encouraging SA is retard

[@sparkypikachu7776]

@@kittycst what??

[@lexinicole4317]

Gotta love how a man says that the guy who was simulating fucking, slapping, and choking a woman who he disagreed with to entertain his child audience “didn’t deserve to be banned”.

[@galath9242]

Keep that copium flowing, fascist

[@jaya.regalado5086]

​@michaelhernandez7978 Yeah buddy I could say the same about you. These assumptions you people make are insane

[@jaya.regalado5086]

@michaelhernandez7978 Has nothing to do with being immature, which I don't even know where you got that from either

[@thatonedood85]

Lick that boot, bitch

[@m3ttalc874]

I mean this guy also liked a comment on his sssniperwolf vid where someone was saying "this is why I don't talk to women", so... idk. Not saying he should be cancelled/called out or anything, but maybe as a yt commentater, practice what you preach or don't preach at all.

[@countbang1305]

He simulated an SA on a fellow creator on his livestream in front of hundreds of thousands of impressionable kids. If not a ban then what punishment would you propose Tom? Should we have a 3 strikes policy on simulating SA on fellow creators in front of children? The "free speech" argument doesn't fly here and never will.

[@naptsaspook4046]

he already had 2 strikes on his channel, if he got another he'd get banned anyway.

[@srinivarma1320]

The problem with KZbin moderation isn't really the rules, because the rules they do have makes sense. The problem is how they enforce those rules. They demonetize channels who say swear words in the first 15 seconds of their video (even if the videos are meant for a mature audience) while allowing channels like quantum tv to foster toxic communities

[@countbang1305]

@@obfuscate5639 yes he did

[@JohnSmith-sl2qc]

@@obfuscate5639 bruh the video evidence is right here and yet you won't even look at it

[@martinszymanski2607]

i think the punishment should be on youtube - because as far as i can tell it's their responsibility to stop "impressionable kids" from getting to content which may radicalize them in the first place. of course, since youtube kids didn't take off it's better to bubble-wrap the entire internet just in case somebody gets offended. oh well, happens

[@avian9033]

Sneako wasn't a "Politcally incorrect funny haha youtuber" he was a genuinely bad guy. He's deserves his ban.

[@Ionilas]

Exactly what I was thinking. He absolutely deserves a ban. How do some people not get that? This isn't about free speech. Tom's videos are alright, but they aren't entirely objective and I wish if he was going to be neutral, he'd at least understand that hate speech and general speech in public forums *are* always going to be subject to potential removal, ban, deletion, blockage, etc. Because *that* is a protected aspect of free speech. Just because someone doesn't agree with you, doesn't mean you can just say whatever you want without consequence then cry, "but mah free speech" when your content is removed. If it's public, you will always be held accountable to somebody. To top it off, it's evident Sneako's speech was full of hatred. Double-whammy against him.

[@strayiggytv]

@@Ionilas turkey tom probably has some pretty sh1t views if we got down to brass tacks. You can see a little bit of it sneaking through a lot of his videos.

[@equinox_night]

@@strayiggytv interesting, I haven't seen a lot of his videos. What views do you mean? (Not asking defensively/rhetorically; just curious)

[@kutsmacksolucas]

​@@equinox_night not the guy but pretty sure that it feels like he appreciates edgy content/creators. The way he speaks about 2013-16 youtube seems to be in a tone of nostalgia and loss because of how the social media landscape changed, and many times he seems to kinda dislike personalities that have grown beyond that (like the guy of content cop, for example).

[@kaydenlikescats]

@@strayiggytv I'm sorry to ask this, but what views?

[@rasheedjamal9091]

I'm actually amazed at how people are influenced by these influencers. I mean how weak minded are people?

[@forickgrimaldus8301]

Boy I have news for you a ton of men especially Teens are very insecure so they latch on to "Masculine" men that are actually hacks and leach off of them.

[@xquisid]

Some people need to regularly check their filters more than others. Otherwise the dirt will affect without them knowing.

[@matthiasthulman4058]

How do you think TikTok is so popular? Or Instagram, Snapchat, only fans etc Weak minded people are the core of our society, hence the reason society is the way it is.

[@ergoth154]

You're more influenced than you realize

[@neoPeake]

@@ergoth154 so are you 🫤

[@bugahtul7184]

There’s a difference between dark/edgy humor, and spreading misogyny, disgust, and hatred. Tate and Sneako spread that, they weren’t trying to be funny. They thought they were smart. They faced the consequences for being ego filled jerks, and real social commentary is nothing like what they did.

[@Maddieisabaddie-et4py]

Frfr, honestly Turkey’s actual takes when he breaks away from simply reading a timeline of events just feel like he doesn’t actually know what he’s talking about. Just taking some summarization of what happened than try and spitball his own takes with what he knows(not a whole lot apparently) like sneako’s ban is not only justified but to try and say that it wasn’t means he either doesn’t know the full extent of his bs or simply doesn’t care/partially agrees with some of what sneaky says

[@regulagianci2231]

And the difference is exactly where my feelings begin and nowhere else, they shouldn't have crossed that line and deserve everything bad that happens to them because they didn't toe the exact line I like.

[@RazerBoy12]

​@@regulagianci2231 Well then you could say this with literally anything. Isn't that what a lot of law is founded upon? Isn't that what makes certain things socially acceptable and others not? Isn't what you're saying ironically the exact same thing you're doing by leaving a comment like that?

[@SmoltingWassie]

Anything I don’t like is misogynistic, disgusting, and hate filled. Free speech only extends are far as what I would say.

[@ul.biggit217]

Someone who's never listened to Tate:

[@thee-sportspantheon330]

He's a very real example of falling down the "whatever the fuck its called now" rabbit hole. I've strayed close to it before but seeing him fall down it so much harder and faster than I even thought possible really woke me up. Especially since I used to really respect him.

[@dad_hoc]

@Zoomer Imperator personally I see it as the "politically active, philosophically intrigued 16 year old male on the internet to bigoted egotripping minor online celebrity" pipeline. Almost fell for it myself, so I'm definitely projecting from my past there, but I think it fits adequately (at least in this case)

[@tjrex9458]

@Zoomer Imperator He's probably talking about the "Whatever is famous at the moment" cycle, small/medium size youtubers want to gain popularity quickly? They'll copy every single mainstream topic at the moment, and then fall into being forgotten about, the thing that killed sneako was the fact that he spoke too much about a topic with little to no information to back up his whole lot of bullshit

[@SoapCkat]

@Zoomer Imperator probably means that he wanted ti gain more popularity so he tried to get them by acting like whatever was popular wich was Andrew tate and his type of content

[@ShaunKang69]

It's never been popular to whore your girlfriend out to another nìgga, then watch her moan in ecstasy while dude is deep donging her, & you're just sitting silently in your cuck chair with tears pouring down your cheeks.

[@ren_8181]

@@dad_hoc or the edgy 14 yo

[@CharlieApples]

Anyone who pantomimes themselves raping another content creator DOES deserve to get banned. There was no “disagreement” with Chad Chad. He was reacting to one of her videos. He did what he did completely unprovoked…not that pretending to SA/R someone is ever excusable in any context. Chad Chad seems like a very nice and drama-free creator, and she didn’t deserve to be humiliated and threatened like that.

[@MononymousM]

​@@Junk8 tf are you talking about? I saw you say this in another thread and then dip completely when you got called on it and asked for the specifics.

[@brightsoull]

@@Junk8 L bait

[@jadeblade865]

@@Junk8 yall talk about how a lot of flaque being given to sneako is just because people disagree with his views but then say someone else is slandering just because you disagree with her views

[@nordickdaddy9311]

@@Junk8 You still haven't shown any proof or explained

[@vibechecked7522]

@@Junk8 That's the style of her content. Like Danny Gonzalez or Kurtis Connor, the point is to take the blanket statements and make funny skits. Most of her content isn't supposed to be educational, more of a funny skit about things that are going around.

[@N3XTREVOLUTION]

I was a fan since Advanced Warfare way back in the day and watching him fall off the deep end over the years was painful.

[@meethepie]

Yeah, I really liked his earlier stuff and he had a lot of actually high quality videos and great takes on a lot of things rarely addressed. I consider myself pretty left-leaning and disagreed with a lot of his views, but I still very much respected him and watched a lot of his videos. Was very disheartening watching him go the way he did.

[@okokok44]

Yes, omg. I loved his videos, and cinematography. Sad what happened to him.

[@f_eg]

yeah personally i loved his film school arc, really wished he kept making stuff like the sleepwalking series and the horror short he made.

[@likemysnopp]

sucks that he wont listen to anyone but himself and his retarded brain. Would be great if he took the meds but you know.. "that what the illuminati wants you to do" lol

[@ThriceGr8]

Feels bad when advanced warfare is considered way back

[@EatSumMorChkin]

No, I don't agree that banning him or Tate will bite anyone in the ass. I can without a doubt say that society is easily bettered by banning them and I don't find it convincing that this is even a mild threat to free speech

[@bigdadybojangls9219]

The issue is that when we ban these people, they don’t just disappear. They go somewhere else like 4chan. They all end up in this same place together and they create a massive echo chamber with people that just further radicalize eachother without anyone to challenge their ideas. This is how you get to people driving their cars through parades to kill the chads and Stacy’s and going to mosques to kill people because they’re scared of the great replacement. At least if we’re sharing a platform with these people, it’s much easier to combat their rhetoric

[@Bigmikeystan]

Yeah, Tom is smoking something fucking strong with his thoughts on that.

[@tgust5]

You retards do understand what free speech is right? Do you even see what you wrote? I say society is better off without you. CANCELLED!

[@Sillimant_]

censoring ideas only makes them stronger. covering something up always results in people asking why it was buried and looking into it hell, I've become something younger me wouldn't be able to comprehend for that reason alone

[@kerrinichols-mu6qu]

Nothing has changed since they were banned so no it isn’t

[@stickinug]

Lol I like the part where he whines about the way he felt watching his gf bang another dude. Bro just cheated on someone cuz he couldn't keep it to himself for 3 weeks 😂 he totally deserved the karma & gets no sympathy from me

[@scorch4299]

hes pretty clearly gay, like Tate. Thats why they hate women. Cus women take all their men :P Lotta gay dudes hate women like that.

[@jonafrica5739]

Wait he’s a literal cuck? I’m only 10min in and I always knew I couldn’t stand this cringy scrawny little fagel

[@saycandace1341]

His old gf or his current gf?

[@-Monad-]

@@saycandace1341 current

[@syafiqjabar]

Sneako is the kind of guy who would cry because he got banned from Epstein island.

[@ninocraft1]

kek

[@Oiiiii]

Tf

[@Bhubnipz]

Bruh which part of pantomiming sexual assault against a specific person is “free speech” 😂😂

[@noodle8061]

What's worse than Andrew Tate? Someone who tries too hard to be like him

[@obfuscate5639]

So you?

[@noodle8061]

@@obfuscate5639 how am I trying to be like Andrew Tate? I think both him and Sneako are cringe as fuck

[@themookshit]

🤡

[@beewest5704]

Who is the bot now?

[@lowlowseesee]

i mean, tate is a legit trafficker and rapist. you cant get any worse than that lol

[@ayenyeinaung562]

I don't think it's against free speech to ban someone for what's basically a r word threat at someone else

[@WobblesandBean]

These "free speech" idio†s always think that freedom of speech = immunity from consequences.

[@feshpince7181]

It isn't, and Tom is being a cuck in this video real bad.

[@wiggindorfthemagnificent]

100% agree.

[@Muhluri]

I agree. Sneako wouldn’t be banned if he didn’t say repulsive shit like that

[@NovaMaster375]

Freedom of speech means you can say whatever you want. It doesn't mean you're free from the consequence of what your words mean.

[@monokuro-hn9qk]

sorry but i gotta say it - banning someone for threatening r and spreading ideologies that actually hurt people, isn't killing freedom of speech - it's taking a threat to safety seriously. sneako can say whatever he wants, but that doesn't mean he's free from the consequence of what his words mean.

[@KN-hg2nv]

Thank you! For some reasons americans themselves do not understand that freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from consequences.

[@regulagianci2231]

@@KN-hg2nv freedom of speech does mean freedom from consequences of that speech, unless you're going to argue that saudi arabia has free speech because "you can still openly blaspheme the royal crown, you'll just get publically beheaded for it :)" It's entirely within youtube's right to not host sneako on their platform as a private company, but this crap about "freedom from consequences" doesn't track and it's dishonest.

[@Tom_Cruise_Missile]

​@@KN-hg2nv to be fair a lot of people hold it as a well meaning conviction, it's just that they're just dead wrong.

[@avavavaa]

@@regulagianci2231 your speech can be threatening which is punishable by law, so is slander.

[@galleryofrogues]

@@regulagianci2231 free speech in the US just means freedom from government persecution. YT and other platforms are private entities and if you violate TOS then you’re out. Not complicated.

[@sophiaeslade]

how did you make this entire hour long video about this guy and arrive at the conclusion that he didn’t deserve to be banned? i’m honestly floored that’s where you ended up. i’ve watched your content for a long time and really love your style but that’s such a whack conclusion to end up with. :/

[@paintyxd]

Why is that so? Because you feel like it?

[@drooooop]

@Jack Men are literally incapable of coming up with an original thought LMAO Very sad to see so many NPC scrotes out there. Praying for you.

[@moh-b6654]

yeah, I’m not subscribed but I was considering it until this, how can you show a clip of him doing and saying stuff like that about chad chad and then still stay he didn’t deserve his ban

[@Umezete]

Yeah this made me sad, I had a sneaking suspicion Turkey Tom was a bit of a shitty person with some of his previous vocabulary he used but I just wrote it off as me reading too much into things. Only to find this video of him depending a completely amoral shithead who literally advocates rape and sexual harassment for kicks as "free speech." Weird hill to die on.

[@realchiknuggets]

Yeah, the only way to make it rational (and this is quite a stretch) is maybe he meant sneako should be allowed to stay because he humiliates himself being a lolcow and an example of what not to do? idk, even that’s super flimsy. funniest part though is how sneako wanted to fight Tom irl after this, and he accepted, then sneako bailed out last minute and hasn’t talked about Tom ever since

[@saltysquidfromhyrule4138]

I really hate the “he didn’t deserve it” narrative in this video. He literally falsely accused another creator of r*pe, said if there was only one woman left on earth she’d be r*ped because tHeReS nO cOnSeNt oR pOLiCe, and graphically imitated a sex act on a female creator on his stream. His audience and content was centered around hating women and general misogyny, he most certainly deserved it.

[@blueglue52]

One throwaway line in an hour long video that basically just says “hey this dude’s banning might serve as a cautionary tale about free speech in the future” is not a “narrative” nor does it mean “he didn’t deserve it.” Tom even says that sneako was exposing his audience to some very dangerous stuff.

[@seandark3951]

Wtf are you talking about?

[@Randomfatcs1766]

No he didn't

[@father7713]

You sound like you like rainbows

[@MadScientist126]

@@father7713 I like rainbows in the sky

[@Citcom_undead]

I can't get passed the fact that he literally threatened a person more than once and people think he shouldn't have faced action for it. Like I do love all of the points made in this video and I agree with everything else, but I don't get that part.

[@jadeblade865]

fr free speech is legal but making threats is literally against the law

[@Citcom_undead]

@@jadeblade865 that's what I was saying. Like the people in support of his banning are happy because they felt he was being unsafe 😭

[@novakitty1619]

@@jadeblade865 Right, and the common saying goes "freedom of speech does not mean freedom of consequences"

[@petitechiroptera1347]

Seriously. That take seems so out of touch with reality.

[@father7713]

Who'd he threaten tho?

[@jinnybeats]

51:16 the problem with that statement is that shutting down someone's ability to incite violence and spread hate is not the same as taking away someone's freedom of speech.

[@jtzr1371]

But it literally is though.

[@stanharold7641]

@@jtzr1371 It isn't though. He has every right to go outside and yell his bullshit on a street corner. The private company has every right to ban him from their service for breaking their rules.

[@juliee593]

​@@jtzr1371 it looks like you don't know the definition of free speech. It doesn't include threats, calls to violence, doxxing, or hate speech. Because those things infringe on the freedom of other people. Your freedom ends where another person's freedom starts. If you're verbally endorsing ideas that put other people's safety in danger, or trying to intimidate them with threats, you are crossing a line where your freedom to say what you want is much less important than the protection of the other person's basic human rights.

[@TheTGOAC]

Private companies can do whatever they want as long as it aligns with my personal beliefs.

[@Utopia7281]

@@jtzr1371 Damn, this guy over here thinking he can go out and scream racial slurs, and how he's going to murder everybody and say that's free speech, I think you've mistaken free speech for a ticket to prison for life.

[@WaitComatose]

Honestly, imo, I miss old Sneako. His old videos where he used to set up a table and talk to people around NY was honestly the most genuine and refreshing content he has put out. Over the years I've fallen off, especially with his podcast, but there once was a time where he was making golden and wholesome content. Ion know. Dude wasn't always so bad

[@mrrockets32]

Ksi lmao he wanna talk about sparring boy sit your ass down you mfs first learn to box then hop online to talk shit talking let’s box

[@mrrockets32]

Forget all that KZbin becoming china it already is

[@ergoth154]

He recently did another street interview like not even a month ago

[@RAD-m3x]

@@ergoth154 It's not the same anymore..

[@lol-bg4wh]

@@RAD-m3x it’s only not the same because you don’t agree with his opinions anymore, i’ve seen some reuploaded clips and they’re the same

[@Axinq1]

I like your content and agree with you on a lot of issues, but I also have to say that I think there's a difference between free speech and brainwashing teenagers into thinking things that these huge creators are promoting. I mean, there has to be some kind of line drawn, and I think that when their content is directly inciting physical violence, that is probably too far.

[@Sillimant_]

it's a consequence of the time. traditional masculinity has been demonised for over a decade now, leaving only the comically inflated parody of it remaining. it's the sole reason andrew tate blew up in the first place. young, insecure men see no other showcase of masculinity than tate, despite it being a facsimile of real masculinity and roles. to pretend otherwise is delusion

[@Axinq1]

@@Sillimant_ the big problem is now people are realizing that young teenage boys are the best way to grow and audience and make money from their insecurities. The fact that they probably don't even agree with anything they're saying arguably makes it worse. At least the other way they would have some set of moral values.

[@redoak4543]

Incitement to violence isn’t even protected by the 1st amendment however the problem is that what exactly counts is up to opinion so KZbin isn’t going to get rid of anyone but a small creator unless they feel their hand is being forced

[@l0vl33yy]

@@redoak4543 Incitement to violence is a felony offence. so on the offhand someone that uses KZbin as a platform gets a charge under "Incitement to violence" whose main 'incitement' is using KZbin videos, it could bring KZbin into a Felony charge. coming from a purely business view, KZbin probably realized the severity of his hatred online and also realized if they continued to platform him it could bring them into hot water if someone was to try to bring him into legal trouble. (which it being a streamer who basically only was relevant because of Andrew Tate, was un-probable but still a possibility)

[@bingchingler295]

@@Sillimant_”traditional masculinity” is your synonym for toxic masculinity, that thing that most assuredly is bad and erodes the happiness and well-being of everyone Yes, it is rightly demonized But an important thing to note is that Toxic Masculinity is not a standin for masculinity as a whole Masculinity *can* be very good but it is very often used to exploit and abuse vulnerable people

[@kratangg-arang]

I’m amazed that you manage to create such long, high quality and research-heavy videos so lightning fast. Cheers to you TT.

[@moufronn]

moufronn

[@Alberich_Prince_of_Dwarves]

If he didn't, he'd be gone from youtube by now.

[@JuniorBetrayal]

It's weird how most of us living on Earth will never meet or even acknowledge each other's existence. For example, if you're reading my comment; this is probably the first and last time you'll ever see me.

[@C-leannn]

he is working with a team now, that's why it's possible!

[@NovaMaster375]

@@moufronn moufronn

[@alexxdavila]

"I lost half my life savings in a gamestop meme im just like you" sure bro, cause thats an experience we can all relate to

[@Luka-DanteGodofMischief]

He's that Stoopid he lost half his life savings to a meme...

[@sphaceboy]

I mean he literally defended Netflixes "cuties" he deserves it

[@anothercub6958]

"But it's about how wrong soyciety is for sexualizing children! You're so indoctrinated by the left wing media that you can't even see that!" -Sneako probably

[@cheeseofglass]

It's a good movie though.

[@Srajou]

@@cheeseofglass bro?

[@Josh_SRT]

@@cheeseofglass highly agree

[@basedcommentor]

Y'all weird.

[@spideyspo]

As a 13 year old girl I can say that sneako and Andrew Tate (along with all the other alpha male red pill creators) have heavily effected me and so many other girls. It feels like the boys I grew up around, my own friends, have turned into total strangers. I know very few boys in my grade who DON'T like sneako. It doesent matter if he is "just playing a character", because you cant deny the fact that these creators are effecting us every day. I wish more people would listen to girls like me who are actually experiencing the real world consequenses of his actions. I'm just scared that I'm gonna continue to grow up in an environment full of horrible men who don't respect me. I dont want to have to tolerate it. I thought the world was getting better but to be honest it feels like we're reverting back to old ways.

[@tsuzuke]

I completely agree with you and I'm so sorry you have to grow up with this.

[@michaelh878]

Yes the young men and boys are being taught to behave in a way that is totally unappealing but sold the idea that the only problem that needs to be fixed is that they are not rich enough. Not sure what 13 year olds are supposed to do with that information. There is a video of Sneako with his girlfriend at dinner with Destiny and his girlfriend and Sneako acts in the most respectful, beta way imaginable (not that there is anything wrong with that). What would your solution be? Obviously age-gating would be sensible but doesn't work with other content. What would be the criteria to ban red-pillers?

[@joenelson4629]

Well don’t disregard all of it, there’s not an issue with young men knowing there worth. Respect them a little.

[@spideyspo]

@@michaelh878 Honestly I'm not sure what I would do to stop this. I guess it's somewhat inevitable that these creators will exist but for some reason, they've recently been gaining a larger platform of impressionable young men. The thing that draws them in is usually the fact that these people are everything they arent; rich, successful, and free to do whatever they want. This makes these boys look up to them. Maybe if more celebrities that they look up to start speaking out against this type of thing, they'd listen. I also think that banning dangerous ideology from easily accessible platforms (like KZbin, TikTok, and Instagram) and limiting it to specific websites could work. Said websites could include something like an age verification system where you have to show an id or something. Clearly, this is somewhat of an unrealistic solution, but it's a pretty tricky problem to solve.

[@oliveryt7168]

Here's a hint: Not all societies/ countries (not even all regions in your country) are full of such degenerates... If you can, move away. I live in a big German city and here you also have so many of those gen Z teens, who are copying all those social Media clowns.. it's sad and pathetic. But I can't change these people. I will have to move away eventually.

[@raymen5158]

Just wanna say I recently found your channel and I have been EATING UP this mindless internet drama so thank you sm for helping my mind 🙏🏽🙏🏽

[@BluePasionTV]

Same here bro

[@jam3106]

I love the content he makes but unfortunately it most often seems bit leading into whatever direction turkey Tom seems fit.

[@mag1cg1rl_]

same

[@moufronn]

moufronn

[@atlas9519]

Sounds like he's destroying it

[@mgdii5435]

Moral of the story: the most masculine of men don’t need to tell you or show you they’re masculine on a daily basis

[@kerrysanders6668]

His arc was predictable, but I think I'm less sad for Sneako than I am for anyone who actually took anything he said to heart. Or that took his advice seriously. Or bought his worthless course. Etc.

[@multi-milliondollarmike5127]

My brother acts like this. Very ego driven, and takes offense to things that aren't even offensive to cause drama and chaos. It's toxic narcissistic behavior.

[@WhoDat9DB]

0:00

[@demofya]

And BTW, You Tube can do as its pleases when YOU as a creator agree to their terms of service and community standards. If you are working for a company and do and/or say things that are controversial and fall under hate speech, you will be fired. Social media platforms are paying content creators.. and have the right to fire them.

[@lowlowseesee]

the right types forget this all the time lol

[@Maddieisabaddie-et4py]

@@lowlowseesee frfr, freedom of speech not freedom of consequence

[@realchiknuggets]

@@lowlowseesee Dude, don’t get political about it, we don’t need that here, truth is everyone forgets it every time some controversy happens about a wrongful strike/termination/demonetization that happens because more often than not it’s a platform issue that can affect most popular content creators

[@realchiknuggets]

oh and just to put this out there before some brickhead tries to dismiss what I said, no I’m not right of center at all, not even right leaning, so don’t even fling that shit at me, it won’t stick I promise you that

[@Arthurzeiro]

Can't you change the title to "When you order Andrew Tate from Wish"

[@MarroniMusic]

Sneako was on his grind LONG before Andrew Tate came along. This title is misleading at best.

[@MissyGail4eva]

Kinda like a 'Second Rate Tate'..

[@keeferChiefer]

Sneako preached these views before tate got famous

[@OOOO0OOOO0001___]

*shein

[@smartwater598]

@@keeferChiefer that’s the problem why is this spoiled weak beta kid preaching masculine alpha stuff? At least tate been through hardships been a fighter and his old enough. What has sneako done? Get cucked?

[@smarre12]

Even free speech has it's limits, and promoting this dangerous garbage is one of them

[@Mr.BeefwithChixken]

What dangerous stuff did he promote tho

[@smarre12]

@@Mr.BeefwithChixken I shouldn't have to explain that

[@johncastillo2194]

You don’t believe in free speech then.

[@lukecodz]

id never do any actual action against it because i dont care, but free speech def does have the potiential to be dangerous

[@johncastillo2194]

@@lukecodz no it doesn’t. Sticks & stones

[@Gerisk]

The worst kind of evil is an evil that doesn't know it's evil.

[@lindboknifeandtool]

That’s usually all the evil. I’m of the opinion that 99% of people feel completely justified in their actions.

[@lindboknifeandtool]

Bape kid is legendary

[@oliveryt7168]

"Evil" doesn't exist.. there are only actions (decisions) that are morally or ethically right or wrong. Everyone is capable to kill somebody (like billions are capable to kill an animal)... but not everyone will choose to do so for reasons like greed, egoism etc.

[@matthewskinner6626]

@@oliveryt7168 "Evil doesn't exist.... there are only actions (decisions) that are morally or ethically right or wrong." *So basically your saying "evil" DOES exist...*

[@waspdragon2086]

Watching these people interact with eachother is like watching 12 year olds in a COD lobby

[@themightylog2169]

Fuckin oath bro!! This description hits different omg

[@theedexterspeckman6512]

the fact that he’s responsible for his own downfall is what makes this even sadder

[@MarroniMusic]

There is no 'downfall'. He's currently making a fortune on rumble etc.

[@AkiraIsMissing]

@@MarroniMusic 💀

[@ernie9538]

@@AkiraIsMissing 💀💀

[@skullingtonfx4441]

I think you mean funnier lol

[@lamwam5065]

How so? Did he ban himself?

[@wiggindorfthemagnificent]

I think it doesn't matter how long the someone has been on the platform. If you essentially make threats like he did and hate speech then you deserve it. Guy totally did it to himself and I am very glad that "seniority" didn't save him. The rest of the video was very good but in my opinion that was just a bad take.

[@The_Funniest_Cut]

Don’t think “hate speech” is on the same scale as actual threats, not really stuff you can compare.

[@thxwanderer]

@@The_Funniest_Cut Disagree. Hate speech can tip so easily into extreme territory and he was feeding that speech to millions of impressionable people (idk why people were hanging off of his every word). Multiple people told him to chill out or else consequences would come fast and he said, "Let me speed run my downfall."

[@The_Funniest_Cut]

@@thxwanderer Well that’s his own fault. Hate speech is a good thing specifically because it shows everybody else how dumb these ideologies and concepts are, let them make fools of themselves so they lose support and influence. But, you make a fair point. I take back what I said to some extent, it definitely can be a bad thing, yes.

[@Jon96101]

Tom has the same opinion everyone had in 2015. Nobody should be banned.

[@brightsoull]

@@9mmsleepingpill851 ayo we found francis galton's youtube account

[@r0ck_salt703]

I love that at 48:20 no one agrees in his chat its just Ls, its nice to know that he hasn't created a community that listens to his hateful spew.

[@jackcole1331]

When he was on KZbin i remember his community disagreeing with 90% of what he said lmao especially on live streams

[@exodust3114]

Reading this comment made me realise this video was a lot longer than 20 minutes

[@danielzurakovski6043]

@@exodust3114lmaooo same😂

[@Wackobow]

Hey Tom. I’ve been binge watching your content so much lately. You’re a great dude and your channel is definitely going places. Keep your chin up and always be yourself, never stop bro ❤

[@TurkeyTom]

thank you

[@TeenWolfLore]

Tom is a bad turkey

[@asmodeusguys4472]

@@TurkeyTom your mom is finally proud of you. Good job. 👍

[@black65stang44]

@@TurkeyTom I hope you have a great day the way you make mine whenever I see the videos, I always watch them and they are always good, thank you Mr. Turkey!

[@OrangeHeadTM]

@@black65stang44 you NPC

[@TheAcorner1987]

how anyone can think this ban isnt 100% deserved is a bit weird imo

[@Sillimant_]

the rise of sneako and tate-like people is a direct consequence of the demonising of traditional masculinity. the people that hate tate the most are the people responsible for his rise and influence when you erase normal masculinity, it leaves only the more extreme, warped, and inflated parody of it that tate pedals. tate became famous because he's the only mainstream source of masculinity of any kind left. these people have nobody to blame but themselves for tate and his clones rising, and I'm only surprised it took as long as it did

[@JaitsuStudios]

@@Sillimant_ Lol Jesus Christ... seek therapy, dude.

[@doctorofskillz2932]

@@Sillimant_ The problem is buzzfeed poisoned the well and gave the sceptic community ammo, polarizing both sides

[@galath9242]

DUhhhh, because he wasn’t spreading ‘hateful’ message? Stop watching low energy hassan and develop your own worldview, fascist

[@lorddreagus7253]

​@@doctorofskillz2932Exactly what happened with vaccines too

[@woodstockthemidstock]

personally i think freedom of speech is something that can only go so far, his ban was justified because he was platforming hateful views that were being spread onto actual children who knew no better. it was seen in schools, teachers were complaining about it, parents were too etc. etc. in reality the more of an audience you have the more power your words do as well. you can either have your content promote acceptance, hate, or nothing at all. but you can’t be surprised that your “freedom of speech” isn’t freedom of consequence once said speech starts to affect others on a mass scale. that’s simply newton’s third law at that point.

[@ottopotatum5775]

Its not speech its the threats. You spewed a bunch of nothing

[@Damn-Sandwich]

@@sneedmasters so how is allowing hateful rhetoric moral?

[@Damn-Sandwich]

@@ottopotatum5775 threats are a form of said speech

[@BiggieTrismegistus]

Only the government has to allow free speech. No one else does. It amazes me that people don't seem to realize that KZbin isn't a public utility and is in fact a private company. They don't *have* to let anyone post anything at all and there's nothing you can do about it. KZbinrs are using KZbin's property to post their videos and you certainly don't have a right to use someone else's property when they don't want you to.

[@galath9242]

Then why are all the feminazis and blm zealots not banned? Bet you would be silent on that matter

[@saulgoodman4422]

I'm honestly curious if anyone has ever had their life changed for the better due to the advice of these guys. I really doubt it.

[@DM-nw5lu]

Probably worsened their life. And that of women, too, as they have to deal with more guys like this both online and irl.

[@es1645]

Depends. If you take some of their less harmful advice, probably. But the advice that is extreme and ridiculous to 99% of people no

[@h.plovecraft6691]

@@aman541 sneako’s advice is worthless, but Tate actually has some really good advice hidden behind the shock value

[@eve_______]

I rly don’t get the hate, while he doesn’t specifically add quality advice he actively laughs at status quo. Even if person will not follow him they may take conscious notes of underlying issues (which don’t try to lie to yourself are real) it is tempting to claim moral high ground today but I advise to consider whether you are sure you’d still be right after 100, 1000, 10000 years.

[@keeferChiefer]

I mean Andrew tate made me start working out and he gave me more confidence. This dude I didn’t really know until tate gave him more fame

[@spacewizardpip1111]

I enjoy Chad Chad’s content a lot, didn’t know she technically was the final straw that got discount Tate banned lmao.

[@AidanPatko]

The whole “attack on free speech” thing is so funny to me because nobody promised you freedom from consequences so like… why are you mad?

[@petervansan1054]

youtube stealing 120k$ seems like scum thing?

[@AidanPatko]

@@petervansan1054 ok and?

[@docsaico]

Wow, his attack on Chad Chad made me feel physically nauseous. Thanks for your coverage, it’s always great to watch your content and get the facts on everything.

[@chillaxer8273]

It was funny as frick. Funniest stuff i seen all day

[@purpleseer5323]

@@chillaxer8273 you don't have to out yourself like this.

[@chillaxer8273]

@@purpleseer5323 i am a proud comedy enthusiasts

[@forickgrimaldus8301]

@@purpleseer5323 dude its hilarious, yes its a threat but Sneako is so Vain glorious and insecure it just makes him look stupid same with Tate they are both stupid grifters.

[@ikeohno]

@chillaxer8273 if that's your idea of comedy and funny jokes then your standards are in the fucking dirt. Might wanna go dig those back out, you need them

[@Gnarfendorf]

The thing people always seem to get wrong about freedom of speech is that it does NOT mean youre safe from consequences. He deserved getting booted off the side for his disgusting behaviour, shit like that should not be tolerated in any situation.

[@arnavpandey3779]

Lol s*it that i dont like shouldn't be tolerated 😂

[@Gnarfendorf]

@@arnavpandey3779 So people should be fine with assholes in their vicinity or idiots spreading harmful stuff on the internet? And last ive heard its not our decision to kick someone from the plattform but Googles/KZbins. If you are fine with ppl like tate or sneako on yt thats your opinion, youre entitled to that, but nothing more. KZbin decides what content they allow here, if the rules change so be it. Nobody is entitled to this service, especially not those that do not agree to the rules. Do i like it this way? Not really, but its the reality we live in, and i wont loose any sleep because some dipshit wannabe tate got the boot from yt.

[@klown463]

If there’s consequences, then it’s not free is it?

[@Gnarfendorf]

@@klown463 Of course its free, nobodys preventing people from saying stuff. But just as with everything else we do, we have to live with the consequences of the things we say. If you tell your boss that he sucks at his job he has every right to fire you, but youre still allowed to say it. Its a very simple concept that people love to get wrong on purpose to suit their needs.

[@klown463]

@@Gnarfendorf except KZbin, who banned this guy thus preventing him from speaking lol

[@gloomygothgirl]

I kind of think he got what he deserved for the things he said and did, but I also hope he gets some serious help. He had so much potential.

[@cherrybombstudios1671]

I keep seeing comments about Tom saying Sneako ‘didn’t deserve the ban.’ And I get it, I think him being BANNED was deserved. Hell, Tom even said it was INEVITABLE. But if Tom thinks it was inevitable, then it has me wondering if what “wasn’t deserved” was the mass deplatforming, rather than the ban itself. Because mass deplatforming is a very dangerous tool that I myself cannot get behind or endorse. But that pantomiming stream in question DID undoubtedly had flaggable content.

[@gloomygothgirl]

@@cherrybombstudios1671 I feel like that does make quite a bit more sense as to why Turkey Tom said he didn't deserve it. I just wish that he himself cleared that up.

[@birdiehouse143]

@@obfuscate5639 you've said the same thing in like 3 different replies. did you just come to this video to argue about Sneako or something?

[@obfuscate5639]

@@birdiehouse143 nope, I said one word and you got triggered. Do you get offended easily or something? Cope

[@fornavnefternavn208]

@@obfuscate5639 seems like you get easily triggered my guy i have seen you in so many comment sections trying to toddler troll and bait.

[@ietbonez]

I think this video somes it up nicely however underplaying the Chad Chad situation… I felt like that was a bit cold and unempathetic, it’s a lot more then a “disagreement” or the “audience of tiktok girls” sort of thing. That was about an act on stream of literally acting out what assumes to be unconsentual s##. It can be really scary to have something like that happen to you or someone you know. However great video and you some it up nicely, I’ve always loved ur content Turkey Tom and I appreciate all you do

[@yourfavoritepanda]

Yeah I agree. I understand shortening things down for a video and making jokes to keep the tone light, but that should've had more time. That was genuinely horrifying, and I feel so bad for Chad Chad for having to go through that. That must've been incredibly scary, I really hope none of those unhinged weirdos took it as encouragement to go harm her.

[@ietbonez]

@@yourfavoritepanda agreed, I really hope Chad Chad is safe. I kinda also felt a bit disappointed that Turkey Tom didn’t think sneako deserved to be banned, in my opinion sneako deserved that ban. But that’s my own personal opinion. I completely agree with you btw!

[@yourfavoritepanda]

@@ietbonez Yeah I 100% agree, the dude deserved to be banned. I'm also disappointed, but I'm super jaded so I'm not really surprised.

[@mr.samcohen7954]

@@yourfavoritepanda >horrifying What?

[@thesun5275]

Especially since the Chad Chad thing was the final nail in the coffin. It wasn't random beef He targeted her and threatened actual rape saying "that is what you need, you need some sense fucked into you" Genuinely disgusting.

[@derpsterdmad2755]

Tate and Sneako are the types to get angry at cashiers for no reason.

[@havefaith4382]

male karens

[@creepyparsnip3928]

Not tate but sneako prob would

[@weirnershittler6752]

@@creepyparsnip3928 both would, your so-called "Ideal" Celebrity is an alleged rapist and human trafficker.

[@gem9535]

@@creepyparsnip3928 Oh, yes he would. If the cashier was a woman.

[@dogly4c]

@@gem9535 he'll say somt about how women can't see numbers or understand how a cash register works

[@sdfabctr]

whenever I hear "open relationship" my mind immediately goes to that Alex Jones clip "YOU'VE CHOSEN THE PATH OF PAIN!!!!!!" I just don't get how anybody can think making their intimate relationship not intimate is a good idea.

[@feshpince7181]

It works for some, and it doesn't for others. Clearly Sneako here, it didn't work. But it legitimately can work, if everyone has the right mindset.

[@juliusevola2116]

@@feshpince7181 No, it can't

[@gem9535]

@@juliusevola2116 Yes, you can. It's not for a lot of people, but better to have an open relationship than having a mono relationship that ends up with one or both people cheating and causing a bunch of sh*t. Humans are one of the most diverse species on the planet. It's only logical that we're also diverse in how we romantically love. Forcing/shaming people for being involved in different kinds of relationships is only going to hurt people because it suppresses research on how to have these relationships and still be healthy and happy. Open relationships are going to happen no matter what. Better to at least make sure no one gets hurt than to try and shove it in the dark where something truly insidious can happen.

[@sdfabctr]

@@gem9535 I highly doubt this, I really can't see how an open relationship is anything other than a suboptimal contract agreed upon because either one or both parties aren't truly content or compatible. An open relationship seems to be de facto cheating and that's basically ironclad evidence the relationship won't work. I see encouraging open relationships as the dangerous route since you create the illusion that this toxic relationship can work and provide some lasting happiness which it definitely cant. Often times the people in such relationships would truly be better off breaking up with one another and finding a more compatible personality type which is of course easier said than done.

[@sdfabctr]

@@feshpince7181 How many open relationships last more than... 10 years? "Works" is a very relative term there are plenty of examples of lifelong marriages though they're becoming rarer unfortunately. Can the same be said of open relationships or is the timescale highly myopic and short? I believe they can "work" for a handful of years but the idea that anybody is happy in an open relationship is dubious to me and that they'd continue to be happy when both parties are in their 40s or so sounds practically mythical to me.

[@WobblesandBean]

You think Sneako didn't deserve to be banned? Seriously, dude?!

[@feshpince7181]

Yeah, really not sure why this isn't being talked about more.

[@fluorescentgreys]

Yeah lmao. I couldn’t care less about his years of work going to waste. He’s a vile misogynist and he deserved what he got

[@papoose9446]

It was more a concern for the silencing of someone for a radical ideals as opposed to condoning Sneako's action

[@CrackedPropane]

Banning people for doing things you don’t agree with is a slippery slope. Elon Musk is the best example of this he bans people on twitter for calling him out.

[@utena2]

Yeah that was a really weird take

[@aurora9688]

i feel so bad for young sneako, he would probably cry seeing the loser he grew up to be

[@kozekyto]

I get the vibe that Andrew Tate’s rhetoric (if that’s the right word) directly took advantage of Sneako’s vulnerabilities. Goes to show how dangerous those mentalities can be.

[@davebuilds7261]

No, I think you’re trying to make it sound worse than it is. The reason why, is because that “mentality” got Andrew banned before sneako even did, so they got the same punishment, Andrew even worse. And if sneako really was some sort of clone, it just shows the extent that “they” want to shut that stuff down.

[@alexfp5980]

@@davebuilds7261 Sneako and Tate offer no secret info. I’ve heard their rhetoric from incels and the redpill community for years. The only difference is that Tate was the first successful person to spew the same rhetoric I’ve heard for years. You can’t act like Tate is like Julian Assange who is the owner of Wikileaks. Tate has managed to make u into a beta by bending over backwards for him

[@davebuilds7261]

@@alexfp5980 what a backwards way of coping, all I’m saying is that it’s wrong to silence them. You giving the benefit of the doubt to the big guys is soo dull

[@themookshit]

@@giovi9741 the people pushing the agenda.

[@themookshit]

@@giovi9741 🤡

[@maskedlucario]

Bro, I didn't even know that he went after ChadChad. Her videos are so well done and hilarious, and she is someone who blew up so fast because she knows how to make stuff funny and relatable. That was just an uncalled for attack :(

[@alexgoldberg9671]

@@Junk8 what slander? She really doesn’t do anything different from other commentary KZbinrs, if anything she seems way more tame in comparison

[@maskedlucario]

@@Junk8 what slander bro

[@idontknowwhatmypfpis1918]

@@alexgoldberg9671 check his other comments It explains everything

[@idontknowwhatmypfpis1918]

@@darlenetroise7079 "Gas chamber for these fucks" 💀 I agree those are sick fucks but at the very least it shows he still an edgy teen who'd soon grow out of his Sneako phase

[@fionamcgroddy1178]

yeah that’s actually one of the most disgusting/concerning clips i’ve seen of anyone in a long time

[@KWSigsgaard]

Sneako was such a good youtuber before this all happened, I especially liked his videos where he talked about his ADHD and the drugs he took to combat it. I had been a subscriber for a couple of years when all of this happened and it's just so sad to see where he ended up.

[@slinkybeans2442]

Naw bro defended cuties

[@specialopp333]

it was sad seeing this tbh

[@michaelhernandez7978]

depression isn't real and SSRIs are bad and destroy your brain - anyway here's a 20 minute video about my ADHD and the amphetamine salts i take

[@Utopia7281]

No need to feel sad for someone who willingly jumped into the bloody mess, he tipped his toes in and enjoyed the exposure, leaning his entire body into the pool. Nobody forced him, there was no semblance of defamation, nobody threatened him, he opened his mouth and enjoyed the wider publicity. It's best to deal with these types of people by just giving them no publicity. Treat them as if they don't matter and they'll shut up real soon.

[@Maddieisabaddie-et4py]

The audacity to say that the ban isn’t justified is crazy to me, making literal rape threats and CLEARLY breaking TOS doesn’t get a “well it’s free speech imo” like come on. The free speech conversation has gotten so diluted from people openly admitting that they just want to say slurs and marginalize people. You don’t sit there and say “oh it’s okay we just don’t see eye to eye”, especially when given multiple chances to correct said behavior just to double down.

[@Userhasbeenbanned0]

Lol calling that a “threat” is reaching hard. Me and every single boy I knew in middle school made the exact same jokes about the girls and female teachers in my school. Especially the Karen teachers. It’s called locker room humor

[@striker7625]

​@@Userhasbeenbanned0lmao fr they really reaching with that he threatened her with S.A Shit he just made a extreme joke

[@RealSweatyGamer]

@@Userhasbeenbanned0 That's the thing though it's "locker room" talk not "post a video to thousands of impressionable children who idolize you" talk. There's a time and place for dark humor but to say that had no negative impact is just ignorant.

[@Userhasbeenbanned0]

@@RealSweatyGamer well anyone who takes sneako seriously, I agree, he does have a negative impact. But how many people actually take him seriously? At this point he’s basically a lolcow

[@RealSweatyGamer]

@@Userhasbeenbanned0 Well earlier on in his career he was actually considered a pretty reasonable guy. His following also primarily consisted of 16-24 year old males that weren't particularly fond of women and thought themselves much smarter than they actually are. Basically he was apart of the early sigma movement, and his derailing into this nonsense lead to thousands of young impressionable men adopting his views. With all that said, I don't believe he should have been banned, It's our responsibility as consumers to "cancel" those who have destructive views.

[@hyenagore2982]

People like him make me feel so sick and feel so small and worthless as a woman. Some people really view us as nothing but a hole.

[@oliveryt7168]

Well, it wouldn't be possible, if women didn't sell themselves for pennies... or cheap compliments.. or simply put: Didn't be such holes. No, I'm not "victim blaming"...

[@hyenagore2982]

@@oliveryt7168 that is literally the definition of victim blaming. I've had a pelvic floor disorder which meant I literally could not have penetrative sex and the vile things men have said to me "your only job is to be a hole and you can't even do that." Maybe if men didn't exploit women for sex trade, we wouldn't have the demand. Porn is evil and it's created by men desiring the exploitation of women

[@Ashannon888]

@@oliveryt7168 And when women do that, then creepy incels like you go on about how they "are stuck up bitches" who need "to loosen up and give normal guys a chance" To people like you, women are either worthless sluts who deserve to get raped or stuck up bitches who deserve to get raped.

[@victoria14royalattic82]

@@oliveryt7168 WTH

[@sophiabateman]

@@oliveryt7168 we didn't do anything and some of Us are minors :) so seek help maybe if you think about s.x with underage girls

[@ggchad3739]

Best part about sneako is he called peoples NPC but he said the same shit over and over again until Andrew dropped the next update

[@snappythesnapster1856]

"NPC", "Soyboy", "Beta", "Cuck"

[@kpando4952]

sneako it's like that germ that nobody likes or cares about and you ignore it until it absorbs so much power that it ends up becoming a major antagonist in the story.

[@jacobconcannon4677]

this guy literally devolved, he was such a mature teenager and made great videos

[@badfeng]

Always wanting more, and not appreciating what you have, never ends well.

[@kwisatzhaderach1458]

Sneako is what trying to sell your soul looks like. He will do anything and everything for clout while being extremely "tone deaf" to reality and the risk to reward odds that often do permanent damage to his reputation closing more doors in life faster than you will ever experience open in yours.

[@sethisevilone02]

Sneeko defended cuties Anything he says shouldn't be taken to heart

[@ernie9538]

What's cuties?

[@Chlo255]

he was definitely being a contrarian on purpose for ragebait, but still.

[@consumerofbepsi5254]

@@ernie9538 that pedo bait movie released by netflix

[@thesun5275]

sorry, that doesn't excuse what is said.

[@0therW1z]

@ERNIE a creepy pedophilic movie about kid gymnasts

[@Ooo0990]

SNEAKO is such a cliche cookie cutter human and he struggles to accept that

[@kadenstimpson3167]

All he can do is stir the pot for its own sake

[@bighillraft]

Sneako the type of guy to not know what a mag is

[@Luka-DanteGodofMischief]

Or anything at all

[@jace2802]

I love Brandon Buckingham. He's really chill with his fans. I got drunk and DMd him because I lost my brother to drugs and I heard him mention something similar. I reached out and the dude was insanely chill even had some words of wisdom. He didn't come off like a narcissist like the Paul bros

[@TheTGOAC]

Brandon rules, really kind and humbled when answering messages. Seems like a genuine person hope he stays clean and keeps making cool videos. I'm sorry about your brother, I know the feeling of losing someone to that life, almost lost myself to it. Hope you and your family are well and healing.

[@BROUSKI13]

Really glad that you've included Brandon Buckingham in this video. Brandon endured alot of shit and false allegations coming from Sneako. Brandon's situation I feel was massively overlooked by the majority of people following Sneakos shit trail. If you happen to see this Brandon, I love you brother and I hope you are doing well. Thank you for your great content Turkey Tom

[@Nick_Tank]

I never knew he had a problem with Brandon. All I know is Brandon called him out to box after he won and crickets

[@toons8744]

@MissMeaCulpaMahatma facts

[@destyon9966]

Nothing happened to Brandon lol his just being a bitch and chasing clout

[@undergroundartist5060]

I know the whole feee speech debate is touchy but if you spread antisemitic theories and is basically influencing people to do harmful things I think that’s when you should be punished.

[@ben9262]

You’re a bot

[@juliee593]

Misogyny should get the same treatment because it's the reason women get battered, rapėd and denied access to healthcare and education, plus sneako and people like him are actively spreading pseudoscience to support it, but somehow that doesn't get people banned as much...

[@bugged-outmario1753]

50:43 what do you mean he didn’t deserve it? He treats everyone but his yes-men like human garbage and supports a sex trafficker

[@andriesoliviier9529]

Everybody has a right to free speech, BUT everybody also has a right to swing their arms when they feel like it. My right to swing my arms ends at the point where your nose begins. Your right to free speech ends when your words inspire and/or urge people to harm others. Also: doubling down on behavior you get called out for does not make you some kind of Rebel Messiah. It makes you a moron.

[@boodeywawiaw8879]

You don't have the right to assault someone. That's literally a crime written by law. But you have the right to speak.

[@superfakerbros]

@@boodeywawiaw8879 But not the right to threaten someone’s life or incite violence

[@boodeywawiaw8879]

@@superfakerbros No, that's what they are doing! Somebody speaks his mind and he gets threatened with violence from the woke mob

[@superfakerbros]

@Boodey Wawiaw Not even remotely true. Most of the violence and threats has historically and continues to come from the right. Getting criticized by the center and left and potentially losing your account for spreading medical disinformation or sexual harassment or bigotry, such as blatant antisemitism, isn't even remotely the same thing, especially when it doesn't happen until it gets extraordinarily extreme

[@boodeywawiaw8879]

@@superfakerbros You are living in a fantasy world! Social media is all controlled by lefties. The left calls everybody who has a remotely different opinion than them, a racist or bigot. The white man is evil by nature and is at fault for everything after them. It reminds me how the nazis demonized the jews. Speech isn't violence FYI. But how does the left react to speech? With violent protest, censoring every different opinion and calling it violence. Plus "historically" socialism has killed much more people than fascists! Tf you talking about?!

[@SewerxGator]

What a fun epic content creator. Surely he won't say or do something horrible *pretends to pound female content creator he is in an argument with then pretends to be her cowering in fear* oh my goodness!

[@ctravis91]

And in Tom's world him getting banned for that means no one care about freedom of speech anymore. What kind of fucked up take is that Tom?

[@Hawxicity]

As much as I love and agree with Turkey Tom on a lot of things, this viewpoint really confuses me, too. Having free speech doesn't give you the right to yell ‘FIRE!’ in a theatre, yaknow? Also, I’m not going to take someone who sees my existence as a full human being as a debate, seriously.

[@IM-rs6br]

@@ctravis91 Free speech means you can criticize the government without fear of punishment not doing whatever inappropriate thing he did

[@ctravis91]

@@Hawxicity from what I can tell he has multiple script writers so the message gets confused sometimes. That is a guess though so don't take it to seriously but I can't really come up with another reason. Like the diarrhea hurricane line made him laugh and I think it's because that was his first time seeing it so he genuinely laughed at the line. Just a theory though I could be completely wrong.

[@Plsrateeight]

@@ctravis91 soy

[@WingsAboveCS]

The fact that this man fell from grace 20 minutes into a 60 minute video is frightening, i'll update this when im through the entire video. Update: holy shit.

[@Mac-eo4bc]

Yep

[@Add1x]

When you google "narcissistic personality disorder", this guy is the first image to pop up.

[@samuru101]

Sneako the type of ruffian in a western to say "Well, well, well, what do we gave here", to a stranger who just stepped on a creaky floorboard after entering the saloon.

[@Max-ej4oh]

"Life is simple, once you ignore the distractions" Huh, that's... surprisingly a good take.

[@James-fs4wr]

Watch his old videos there are reuploads and it’s nothing like the stuff he made recently

[@brightsoull]

thats the thing, incel and crazy people like sneako are not completely braindead, they know to say senseible shit that resonates with people for real and then they give you bullshit solutions like redpill bullshit and straight up racism, thats literally andrew tate's whole brand "say something thats kinda real and then hit em with the bullshit while they're invested"

[@oliveryt7168]

Simple truths for simple people... congratulations, you fell for it.

[@James-fs4wr]

@@oliveryt7168 Wow you sound ostentatious as hell , Go back to reddit, there is no such thing as “thought-provoking” content on youtube, it’s all entertainment and Sneako in his old videos had small nuggets of knowledge within his videos. It seems like the guy addled his brain on drugs and dropped like 30 iq points.

[@Max-ej4oh]

@@oliveryt7168 Watch out, a thrown away account is talking about simplistic. loser.

[@TheGingerMale]

I remember watching him back in 2018 then just not even hearing his name until late 2022. He had changed so much. He used to be most people would call insecure but open about his thoughts. Half his videos had themes about mental health, there really was an "old Sneako". It was insane coming back and seeing what happened to him after the years.

[@dylan4817]

i could not stop laughing at sneakos blatant bisexuality but him trying to play it off for the andrew tate audience EDIT HOLY SHIT THIS GUY WATCHED HIS GIRL GET BANGED IN FRONT OF HIM LMAO

[@lisa.222]

It's weird hoe many r4py things skeako says. He's constantly saying stuff that's just so out of pocket

[@anotherseoulnative8781]

It’s amazing that Ethan Klein can call any other man “insecure”

[@dimadobrik4516]

Word hahaha

[@k2a2l2]

@@sneedmastersnice pfp

[@approximateknowledge5577]

iunno about Ethan being insecure but he is definitely petty and hypocritical.

[@JanoyCresvaZero]

@@approximateknowledge5577 Oh he’s 100% insecure. It’s why he burns every bridge to cement his career. What he did to Jontron is unforgivable.

[@approximateknowledge5577]

@Janoy Cresva thats a fair point. I used to love the H3 podcast but Ethan's negative personality traits have kinda turned me off at this point.

[@johnserra604]

I've been following up on Sneako for 8 months, and I gotta say, he just seems very stubborn headed. Almost Narcisstic in the clinical sense. I'm not a doctor but doesn't take one to know one

[@ListenHereOldMan]

yep that term gets incorrectly bandied about all the time, but Sneako's one of the most overt narcissists i've ever seen, should stick his pic in the DSM

[@mytoebig]

few years ago I came across Sneako and I actually enjoyed his content. He seemed like a chill kid who I could watch while drawing, doing hw, etc. I stopped watching him a year later (not for any reason just started watching other people). I noticed him becoming popular and I was happy because this youtuber I use to watch was growing, until I looked more into everything. I noticed my favorite commentary youtubers talking about him. It's sad to watch a kid slowly grow into a very angry and overall narcissistic person. I don't miss the old Sneako at all because old Sneako would eventually grow into the Sneako we have today.

[@Dr.Gainzzz]

Sneako becoming a Groyper was such a profound moment it’s like the special boy finally found a home willing to take him in lol.

[@ZombiesEatShrooms2]

Whats a groyper?

[@Dr.Gainzzz]

@@ZombiesEatShrooms2 it’s what the cringe people in America first / Cozy tv call themselves. Nick Fuentas

[@niggardlylad2008]

@@sneedmasters Mr medikare will be dead soon, how does that make you feel? Lol

[@ninesalive]

bruh they think he is subhuman because he's mixed race. that aint a home thats a prison

[@Wamsuo58u]

@@ZombiesEatShrooms2 nazis

[@rachaelfitzpatrick8574]

Nah he 100% deserves the ban. KZbin would be tacitly endorsing the absolutely disgusting comments he has made if they didn’t by continuing to issue him cheques for his content. It’s not legally the way it works, but in essence creators are KZbin’s employees, and if one employee told another employee in the same company they thought they needed “the sense f**ked into” them, they’ve be fired immediately. Even if it wasn’t a fellow employee, a company wouldn’t tolerate that behaviour. This isn’t even to touch on the morality of what he said, which is also not good. That action alone, regardless of any of his other opinions, actions, or the relationships he had with others, just justification enough to be prevented from making money through a private company by sharing his views. Free speech is not limitless and this especially applies on an international platform like KZbin, that caters to the laws and rights of many nations, not just the USA.

[@rachaelfitzpatrick8574]

@@obfuscate5639 enjoy turning 12

[@chmandcrm]

So does KZbin endorse terrorist bombings considering they haven’t permabanned Ethan Klein?

[@rachaelfitzpatrick8574]

@@chmandcrm why did you delete this comment?

[@chmandcrm]

@@rachaelfitzpatrick8574 what are you talking about?

[@rachaelfitzpatrick8574]

@@chmandcrm you commented something unrelated about Ethan Klein and now the comment is gone 🙃

[@mariea.2684]

L take for thinking that what sneako said about chad chad was "free speech". man is unhinged and deserved that ban 100%

[@emilfrederiksen.1622]

It is free speech