The Baron Harkonnen: The Atreides Gom Jabbar (part 14 of 14)

Ian McNeice as the Baron Vladimir Harkonnen.
"Frank Herbert's Dune". 2000

[@rbdaviesTB3]

"My brother comes!" - love that sing-song delivery! :D

[@olorin3815]

Considering how horny dune books are i find this line very sus

[@mnomadvfx]

@@olorin3815 You know, I never heard it that way until watching it this time, and just after I looked down thru the comments and found you 🤣

[@tomb7942]

I love Feyd looking around as if saying to himself "Well, this is not going according to plan".

[@waltonsimons12]

The CGI effects are absolutely amazing for a show released in 1985. Unfortunately, it was released in 2000.

[@daniels7907]

You think this is bad? Go back and watch the 1984 Dune movie. Then consider that it had a bigger budget than The Empire Strikes Back!

[@Fullgrym]

And yet it is the best Dune movie so far, including the newest ones. The actors are good, the story sticks to the books FAR more than the newest, and they encompass the most from the books - of the newest movies the entire first part goes as far as the middle of the first book.

[@beezzarro]

The effects are actually really good given the shoestring budget and the time they were made

[@hotredtiger316]

Presentist much?

[@ragingtomato04]

If this dune version had the cinematography of Greg Fraser and all the technicalities of the new dune. I say it will rival even the LotR trilogy. The screenplay is just the best out of all the dune adaptations.

[@rubenlarochelle1881]

Paul's sister: (calls the Baron "grandfather") Me, a Dune newbie, after checking on the Wiki: (Pikachu's :o face)

[@whiteknightcat]

That's why it helps to read the books first. The movies can only take bits and pieces, and sometimes the pieces end up ... disconnected.

[@normanlee6609]

welcome to the Dune Fan Group. May you fully enjoy your visit in the Dune Universe

[@SandsOfArrakis]

Another hint later on that they are related is when Paul and Feyd-Rautha are fighting. And Paul calls him cousin.

[@bujmoose3992]

Yep. The Baron was the Father of Jessica although I am sure he was not aware of it.

[@bayareaartist999]

If you watched this show Paul tells his mother that she is both pregnant with his sister and that the baron is his grandfather. The scene is after they escape the crashed ornithopter right before they get chased by the sandworm and they run into stilgars band of freemen. Paul even knows his grandmothers name who jessica does not know.

[@sarahprice659]

The little girl who played Alia was really great in this scene. She’s freakin terrifying!

[@celebrim1]

Only because she is written as freaking terrifying. The child actor is sadly not really up to the part, and the music, costuming, and direction give her very little help.

[@TheTwosliceToaster]

@@celebrim1 My thoughts exactly. I remember liking this scene when I was younger, but seeing it now really highlights how weak her acting was. I thought that scene was very underwhelming.

[@bicarbonat1]

@@TheTwosliceToaster 1984 Alia seemed more frightening in this scene.

[@TowerofAboveandBelow]

She the most powerful being in the room since she overcame the Reverend Mother. Could kill them all with the Voice and her knife and gom jabbar.

[@cadenrolland5250]

There are some real brats out there that make this kid look like an angel. I know I've seen them....Abominations....the real deal. This pampered Hollywood doll is a joke. But how do you get a demon of a kid that delights in sadism to faithfully act and say the lines? That's the paradox.

[@alexk8792]

1:29 "Good-bye, grandfather, you've finally met the Atreides gom jabbar!"

[@marcinzysko1653]

Alia mic-droping gom jabbar is funny XD

[@Gowrons_Stare]

This version of Dune is the greatest High School play I ever watched.

[@andreidru9705]

still the best version

[@FiveSigma72]

oh behave.@@andreidru9705

[@davester1432]

The script is more true to the book than Lynch’s version, but the acting is definitely “high school “.

[@carlosrivas1629]

Christopher Walken was more intimidating by not saying much of anything, he spoke very careful when he did.

[@Grunttamer]

@@andreidru9705it’s criminally underrated

[@Umilenya]

1:28 "Good-bye, grandfather! You've finally met the Atreides Gom Jabbar!" CLANNNG!!! This is so satisfying.

[@Despotic_Waffle]

Can't wait to see how they do this in the dune part 2 version

[@TheKeyser94]

See what, how Irulan reacts to the destruction of a House with people that she never had interaction with.

[@carlosrivas1629]

@@TheKeyser94 She is a Bene Jesserit, she will see it coming and knows what to do, no spoilers. better budget and everything.

[@TheKeyser94]

@rivas1629 Actually even her father that is a complete idiot thinks that she somewhat naive on politics of the galaxy, and she totally become a Bene Gesserit in The Heretics of Dune and Children of Dune, but the miniseries did it best, with Irulan actually having an interaction with the Artreides, even having try to rebel against the wishes of his father, if the Sardaukar didn't had interrupt her, better budget doesn't mean better adaptation, Villanue is all about the visual, only now in the second movie he implemented some of the world building, but it was lack luster as best, and seeing the crickets in the internet, the second movie really wasn't the event that the first movie was, much of the Fanbase really don't care about it, after the disaster that was the first one, is a shame really, Dune really have much potential, even that have some issues to be resolve, like the stupid Pocahontas Love story, but Villanue really screw up by not adding basic world building, and showing all the players, Shadam, Irulan, the Space Guild, the Bene Gesserit, the lie about why Jessica needed to have a daughter instead of Paul, hell, there is one hour of cut content from the first movie that we never get to see, the miniseries have more world building in two hours of the first episode than the two hours and half of the first movie of Villanue.

[@DeepEye1994]

SPOILER: Alia remains unborn and Paul gets to slay the Baron after calling him grandfather and telling him he's gonna die like an animal, then they leave his corpse in the desert to rot and get eaten by ants like roadkill. Personally... I don't care if it's not faithful to the book, it's WAAAAAY more satisfying from a narrative perspective, it makes so much more sense and is more cathartic that Paul kills the Baron after everything he suffered because of him. Despite being the daughter of the Duke (which she didn't get to meet) Alia doesn't really have some truly personal vendetta towards the Baron, other than knowing he's an enemy. MEH. To me Alia killing the Baron always felt almost as unsatisfying as a completely random person killing him. Also... picking him with a poisoned needle is a lame way to die too. The David Lynch version went TOO over the top with the tube ripping and the Baron flying into the Sandworm's mouth, so Villeneuve took the simple but immensely satisfying route by tweaking how he dies and _who_ kills him, in my humble opinion.

[@Stephen64138]

@@DeepEye1994 And how does it fit so well with Alia being haunted by the baron, her victim, later as she become the abomination? I'm sorry but you are sounding just like the maker of GOT season 8... ''We though that Aria was such a logical choice for...'' They too wanted to be SATISFIED like you. Herbert wrote it a way. Lynch (1984) got it right. John Harrison (2000) got it right. ... Villeneuve (2024) got ir wrong. Hubris and stupidity.

[@JamesTobiasStewart]

It is a bad sign when there is a massive explosion and the little girl you took prisoner, at considerable cost, gleefully announces "My brother comes!" Some of the most influential people in the universe are about to be taught that all their grand palaces and empires, were built on the sand of Arrakis and now that sand is moving.

[@theoutlook55]

Well said, that last paragraph especially.

[@JamesTobiasStewart]

@@theoutlook55 Why thank you, glad you enjoyed it.

[@theoutlook55]

@@JamesTobiasStewart 👍🏿

[@vinnynj78]

"They're heeeeeeeeeeere."

[@olorin3815]

Considering how horny dune books are i find that line very sus

[@erickruckenberg8716]

I sincerely hope this scene lives up and surpasses our expectations considering the master piece the new film has become. Cannot wait!!!

[@TheKeyser94]

Masterpiece? The movie not have the context or the world building that the TV Miniseries has, is shallow and superficial.

[@Neville60001]

The new movie's only _part one_ , you know.🙄

[@TheKeyser94]

@@Neville60001 Making Part 2 even more stupid, because Irulan would react to the destruction of a House, and people that she had no interaction off, the story is already butchered from the beginning, Part 2 wont solve the problem.

[@help4343]

@@TheKeyser94 WTF are you talking about?

[@TheKeyser94]

@@help4343 You ever watched the first movie, neither the Emperor or Irulan appear in the movie or have any interaction or mention the Artreides, when the second part come along, Irulan would react to something that she had no interaction off.

[@josephkramer932]

It was great seeing little Alia as an grown up actress in Justified. She is the redheaded paralegal from Florida. I understand she is a concert pianist in Europe now too! I think she was a pretty as a child actor! :)

[@trueblue6201]

You are mixing up adaptions of Dune. Alicia Witt was in David Lynch's Dune. This is from 2001.

[@strikeforcealpha9343]

I'm stoked for part two!

[@oblamov8205]

Alia has two grandparents in that scene

[@bluemike807]

Both maternal grandparents in fact.

[@Wake-Less]

The baron, whos the other?

[@docgonzobordel]

@@Wake-Less Gaius Helen Mohiam, the bene gesserit screaming. ....But only in the shitty novels of Herbert's son and that piece of sh*t of Anderson

[@alastairmcleod3635]

Hmm. This is one of the many Brian Herbert additions that I do not like

[@daniels7907]

@@alastairmcleod3635 - Correct. The original series *never* actually identifies Mohiam as the Bene Gesserit that got Jessica off of the Baron. Although it has been correctly pointed out that Herbert also seemingly forgot that Jessica, Paul, Alia, Leto II and Ghanima should have all known who Jessica's mother was via Other Memory.

[@screenmonkey]

This looks like a mission brief from Westwood.

[@fubaralakbar6800]

It really does. This series was horrible, even for the low budget they had.

[@thorshammer7883]

@@fubaralakbar6800 You must keep in mind this was made the early 2000s same time as Babylon 5 and Star Trek Deep Space Nine was around so the CGI isn't that bad for it's time. And I don't see how it's horrible I can largely ignore the costumes and I learned to accept it plus it's not like they degrade the story or anything they aren't too bad compared to other designs before. So I take a neutral stance on the designs for the most part.

[@stephensmith4025]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

[@stryker5055]

That's actually part of why I like it, I'm a fan of the Dune strategy games and C&C

[@nestcanz]

Top comment!

[@Engel888]

Best Dune version the Mini series. Very creative

[@ryansmarse3325]

The Syfy Dune series and Children of Dune are the best versions, I was really hoping to have this scene in the new movies... The best line ever "goodbye GRANDFATHER, you have finally met the Atreides Gom Jabbar!"

[@anb740]

Alia hasn't even reached double digits in age yet, and she's already savagely sadistic! That's what they get for killing her father!

[@daniels7907]

And in fact in the book she was quite a bit younger than the girl they cast to portray her. But it is difficult for a child actress to accurately portray somebody who has the memories of countless adult ancestors.

[@TowerofAboveandBelow]

She a cute little Assassin.

[@mardiffv.8775]

Sigmund Freud was right: all children are sadistic.

[@phantomwraith1984]

I'm here from watching the new movie. I'm hoping this new one is successful enough to warrant sequels, because I'd LOVE to see this part remade, obviously with better acting and CGI "My brother's coming."

[@OverLorD768]

Eh.

[@IIIJFRIII]

Lol the storm sounds seem to be a recording of the baron from the 1984 movie. Cool way to pay homage to the original movie.

[@zannaifacedancer5915]

The baron in the "original" movie was pure garbage. This baron is more similar to the one Herbert created.

[@death-king1834]

I guess it's a double edged sword. David Lynch's Dune: Visually amazing production design and effects, but not an altogether faithful translation of Frank Herbert's story. Frank Hebert's Dune (2000): A generally more faithful attempt at adapting Herbert's text to screen but having cheap and lame looking costumes and production and laughable special effects.

[@happygoluckyscamp]

The David Lynch version was cheap and ugly. It came out after Blade Runner, Jedi, and it looked like crap.

[@thorshammer7883]

Remember the cgi was during the early 2000s during Babylon 5 and Star Trek Deep Space Nine so I don't mind it at all. The costumes although some seem pretty strange to me I can largely ignore it though some are pretty overly flashy. I mean it could of been worse there could of been shining rainbows of colors everywhere.

[@doublep1980]

That sums up both adaptations pretty good. One thing to add about the Lynch movie: the movie got literally butchered by producer DeLaurentis and the studio,who wanted a 2 hr. film,while David Lynch wanted originally to cover more stuff from the books and make it a 3,5 hr. movie or even longer. David Lynch was so pissed that he almost had his name removed from the credits,he even refused to make a director's cut,couple of years ago. Despite all that,the Lynch ''Dune'' movie is a visually stunning and pretty entertaining film,with great soundtrack to boot. Anyone who says otherwise,needs to get his/her head of his/her arse. Let's see what Denis Vileneuve will do with his adaptation.

[@matthewcooper4248]

Now it looks like we'll finally finally get a faithful movie that also looks good.

[@celebrim1]

Much of the acting in the 2000 version is questionable as well.

[@StarDragonJP]

Man, I was looking forward to this scene in the new Dune

[@n.nasanguanahano818]

DV made the best of this scene

[@pschroeter1]

So the Saurdakar are basically dressed like the Swiss Guards.

[@jaimeosbourn3616]

Given their function that is sort of appropriate

[@eddiecuervo3045]

Watching this cracks me up after reading book and watching new movie. I need to check this out 😆

[@tombarter3287]

"So, here he is: The fat Baron himself. He's not much is he." "So gonna get you for that, you little shit." "GIVE HER BODY TO THE STORM!" "Way ahead of you, boss."

[@miketyper]

You have finally met the Atreaties Gom Jabber!

[@dnaseb9214]

The best version

[@BilltheTulaneGuy]

“One of the greatest school plays ever filmed…” Thanks Algorithm!

[@cirrusB612]

I love how everyone starts panicking when the ground shakes and Feyd-Rautha just stands there like "huh. well. i'll just look around a little. oh, people are running. maybe i should leave too."

[@Shell_Beach]

The only thing better about Villeneuve's Dune are the production values. This is WAY! better in every other way.

[@alrivera8363]

Lil Alia is a gangsta!!!

[@bridgecross]

I’m getting Flash Gordon vibes from this

[@mikegallant811]

Yeah except in this movie, emperor shaddam IV doesn't get skewered by one of his own spaceships the way that Ming the merciless did.

[@thorshammer7883]

I know the guys who made the show had a low budget and did the best they could to be accurate to the book but why didn't they have the worms appear at the entrance of the destroyed mountains like in the book? Surely it wouldn't have been that expensive to have several worms come out of blown up gap at the start.

[@daniels7907]

Herbert tended to allow things that he didn't feel like dealing with (e.g. the entire Jihad) just kind of "disappear" from the books without dealing with them. For example, how exactly do you ride a bunch of gigantic sandworms into what is supposed to be a city and then not have them level everyone, friend or foe, within the enclosed area? He never actually gave Paul the power to control sandworms.

[@StopFear]

Not just that. So many similar things and other stuff could have been made better. Like I wrote elsewhere this show is a smelly turd which was shaped into a perfectly aligned rectangular brick shape. But still a turd.

[@waytospergtherebro]

@@StopFear Maybe if you keep saying it over and over someone will give you the credit you so rightly deserve for that spicy zinger.

[@beowulf_of_wall_st]

The little kid is the best actor in this whole production, by far

[@sl600rt]

This Fayd Harkkonen is a disappointment compared to Sting. He always just seems to be clueless furniture.

[@thorshammer7883]

Are you talking about the orginal movie?

[@tombarter3287]

I know, right. He doesn't do much, he just stands around looking blank. They clearly cast an athlete rather than an artist. In this situation, I imagine Feyd would just looked at his uncle and shrugged nonchalantly or maybe even given a little wave. "Well, you did make me murder all my hookers - guess I'm the boss now!"

[@ravensong9030]

Was he even in this scene?!? LMAO

[@Fintanflaherty]

could have been a zoolander friend of Derick

[@daniels7907]

That's because that's all he really was in the novel. People seem to erroneously believe that Feyd was some kind of supervillain. But he was actually a very minor character, who Herbert explicitly described as "effeminate" of face and who was nowhere near his uncle's league when it came to plotting.

[@frankberst729]

Hey l didn't know Spaceballs had a sequel!!!

[@mcrfan343]

I hope they top this in Dune: Part 2

[@jonny-b4954]

Dude's just floating there at the end hahah

[@derekcurtis9999]

Can’t wait to see how Villeneuve does this scene

[@allanegleston4931]

i actually prefered the childs voice rather than the fake voice in paul's little sister.

[@erickruckenberg8716]

Little Girl: “My brother comes.” Me: SO glad I’m not them right now

[@starhawke380]

Every time a clip from this shows up in my youjunk feed, I am reminded of how happy I am that I never watched this version of the book.

[@silvercat18]

To be fair, its pretty faithful to the books. It definitely didnt have a huge budget, but the actors are solid and it actually went on to do a solid attempt at the children of dune, which nobody else had really tried. By that point it really found its feet.

[@joshuak5958]

To those who've seen the series, is Harkonnen as evil as in the 1984 version? It'd be crazy if McNeice somehow found the only role more evil that the skeezy Holocaust planner from Conspiracy.

[@Slurreydude]

He's truly a magnificent Vladimir in this, hands down my favourite out of the three. Yes he is by far the more evil of the two, though far more sane.

[@WiIfredOwen]

His clash with Firth’s character in Conspiracy was incredible. Such a powerful scene.

[@OmniUni]

@@Slurreydude Absolutely my favorite Baron, and it's not even close. He's wonderfully chilling in an almost charismatic way. One of my favorite scenes is Feyd's failed assassination attempt. From the matter of fact way he confronts him, the way he flippantly drops the dead boy's limb, how his threats come across so casual to the point of almost feeling lazy. It all makes the Baron feel appropriately powerful and evil.

[@mikechrisscorpio.2659]

This Entire Dune Series Wasn't ACTION It Was Straight Up COMEDY 😂

[@wickywoo1635]

her voice "my brother comess". na na na na boo boo voice. ahahah. Also... The Padisha looks like the Shah of Iran.

[@matthewjacobs141]

She is totally wrong for this part.

[@zannaifacedancer5915]

I actually love when she says that, it's creepy enough to me.

[@SantomPh]

That was kind of the point

[@imcallingjapan2178]

Let me tell you a coupla three things: he did twenny years in the can.

[@amoralsupport672]

@@imcallingjapan2178 came here looking for this exact comment xD

[@patrikjohansson5939]

Such a contrast from the stark realism of the David Lynch version. The line "we must fall back to space" had me laughing. All the other lines had me laughing as well, but that line had me laughing.

[@exposingproxystalkingorgan4164]

Emperor Shadam's plans seem to be going very well. 😆

[@Gunners_Mate_Guns]

The Baron's death in the 1984 version is much better.

[@Navigator87110]

Right? I couldn't stop laughing!

[@albionicamerican8806]

The Emperor sucks as an Evil Overlord. A competent one wouldn't have stood there like a deer in the headlights, but would have given orders to counter the assault on his forces.

[@SantomPh]

He did not realize that Paul could : -strangle the spice flow via keeping the worms away and attacked the mining facilities thus keeping the Spacing Guild and Bene Gesserit from interfering. This also keeps the Lansrad houses from interfering as well as the economic powers of the universe. He has isolated the Emperor who would otherwise be powerfully protected. -be alive and extremely powerful, plus has his mother and sister, along with Gurney Halleck's detachment of Atriedes forces -become a rallying point for the Fremen who would be otherwise divided. -Bring the Fremen against the Sardaukar into battle, where they are equal if not superior. -directly attack the capital which was impregnable before.

[@thorshammer7883]

Then again when you think about it the Emperor was a arrogant man who thought he was untouchable.

[@celebrim1]

In the book, Paul gives him absolutely no chance. He knows the Emperor capabilities and weaknesses perfectly. The Emperor has no idea what he's up against. The Emperor believes his shields will make him invincible, but Paul knows that if he can bring a sandstorm through the shield wall he can overwhelm the shields. The Emperor can't conceive of this because he doesn't know that Maud'Dib is the Duke and so doesn't know the Maud'Dib has nuclear weapons, and can't conceive of anyone breaking the mutually assured destruction rule and convention by using the house nukes, and can't imagine anyone using it to remove a natural terrain feature either. But even if the shield wall goes down, the emperor believes the overwhelming firepower of his landed ships would defeat any attack. The problem is that Paul has presighted all of those ships with 'primitive' artillery, so that he knocks out their firepower and their reaction drives in the first minute of the attack before the Emperor realizes how much trouble he is in or could react to it. Paul doesn't actually attack with thopters as shown in the scene, which the Emperor would have expected and has surface to air batteries that could have dealt with that just fine. But even if somehow all of that was overcome, the Emperor is only just digesting the idea of how dangerous the Fremen are to his Saudakaur in the moments up to the attack. That the Fremen are superior to these later day Saudakaur in toughness, fitness, and fighting ability - especially after being trained by Paul and his friends - is something he's just had a chance to process much less react to. Plus he doesn't yet know they ride worms. So in the final bid, if it comes down to a fight between infantry (as all wars do), he simply can't comprehend the enemy has superior infantry that is mounted on 400 meter long nigh indestructible worms that can carve 30 meter paths through his close formations before exploiting those lanes to assault the Saudakaur from all sides simultaneously. By the time he realizes any of this, it's too late to give orders about it. The real plot hole here isn't that - it's the way the Spacing Guild reacts. The spacing guilds knows all of this and should have been vastly better prepared than the Emperor to deal with the problem. Or, if they were going to fall back on ordering the Emperor to get the spice flowing again, they probably should have told him - "So the Fremen are much more numerous, much wealthier, and much more powerful than you've been led to believe. Er...we've been taking bribes in spice from them for centuries now. You have almost no chance of winning if you go down to the planet and try to fight them on their level in the terrain that they understand. But, we know where literally all their inhabitations are. We can target all their homes and families for annihilation from orbit with nukes or just big rocks. They can't live in the open desert. Once we bomb all their oasis, they'll have no water, no means of long distance communication, and no future. Then you can swoop in and handle the problem - and we want you to do that quickly before they can do anything to damage spice production." But presumably, the Spacing Guild had never had a crisis before and never had to deal with military problems before, and that sort of thinking was just to foreign to the nerd boys.

[@CHR1SZ7]

@@celebrim1 I suppose the spacing guild assumed that Paul would be just another emperor and would allow them to continue as they always had done. They don’t care whether the Fremen wipe out the Sardaukar, as long as they get their spice

[@mikegallant811]

​@@SantomPhactually the one way that Paul could have cut off spice production for the rest of time, would be to destroy the melange spice itself. Just before the final battle, he ordered one of his most trusted men of the Fedaykin, Otheym of Sietch Gara Kulon, to take a supply of the changed Water of Life, and plant next to a very large and volatile pre spice mass. If Paul had given the order, Otheym and his men would have dumped the water of Life, into the pre spice mass. Creating what would be called the water of death. Spreading death among the Sandworms, killing an entire cycle of life, destroying the spice forever. Without melange, The navigators of the spacing guild would have become blind. The Reverend mothers of the Bene Gesserit would lose all their powers, and all commerce between the great houses would cease. Civilization would end. If Paul were not obeyed.... The spice would not flow.

[@agalgonzalez]

The scenery was good, the costumes, actors and rhyming dialogue of the Baron Vladimir Harkkonen were not. Most of the continued roles have different actors in the sequel and James McAvoy is in this TV movie as Leto II in his human form and he is very good. Also the women playing Jessica, Alia and Ghanima are quite good and the latter two are quite telegenic as well.

[@OverLorD768]

I know that Ian McNieice is a bloody great Baron (and this version, at least, has Alia, unlike new movie), but I just want to say that Giancarlo Giannini was the best Emperor of all three. Sure, José Ferrer had the presense and the ultimate iconic drip, and Chirstopher Walken... actually, forget it, Emperor in Villeneuve's version is pretty much Biden, but Giannini perfectly captured the essence of how Shaddam was described in the book: impatient, impulsive and power hungry, who doesn't tolerate defiance against his authority in any way or form.

[@joenic4303]

The comments are brutal😂. I saw this when it first came out and thought it was good, but after watching it now, it's awful. Makes me wonder why I liked it back then. Maybe I was relieved the Barron didn't have boils.

[@TheBigExclusive]

It was low budget back then, but the effects haven't aged well. So people easily make fun of it for the memes.

[@samanthab1923]

Why did she call the Baron grandfather?

[@silvercat18]

He was Jessica's Father, though he didnt know about it. She did, as she had all the memories of her ancestors. Unfortunately, having the Baron's memories in her head really didnt help later on in life.

[@ThomasSmith-os4zc]

The Baron took less than a minute to bite the palmetto dust.

[@basileus7725]

The acting is so convincing... 👀

[@ThomasSmith-os4zc]

Old Vladimir probably pooped all over his self.

[@marcinpaul1981]

Remembering how it was 'cause thiss will all be gone in Dune pt2....

[@mtjoy747]

I don't know if this was the 3-DVD version I once made the mistake of renting but OMG LOL

[@anb7408]

Ahhh, the irony of the Baron finding out Alia was his granddaughter, making Lady Jessica his daughter he never knew he had…..just a few seconds before Alia killed him!

[@kathiejohns1418]

Visually great but I like the film version

[@VersusARCH]

Who did the HR for emperor's security? Forrest Gump?

[@Aquel29]

According to the book, they used to be more efficient when the emperor´s ancestors ruled. Besides, natives on Dune were as powerful as the emperor´s soldiers

[@VersusARCH]

@@Aquel29 I mean for failing to search a goddamn kid prisoner properly for dangerous objects in the first place.

[@VersusARCH]

@yeah I'm John Assal So why didn't she just use "the voice" to command all present to just commit suicide? (roll credits without the messy battle)

[@VersusARCH]

@yeah I'm John Assal So why in this scene is the kid shown to be getting only inside the mind of the top ranking Bene Gessariet present of all people?

[@VersusARCH]

@yeah I'm John Assal So why didn't she just command the Emperor to step down without the messy battle?

[@AnnaBellaChannel]

Alia meets both grandparents. Grandmother complains of brain fog and grandfather dies. All in a days work.

[@EdwardZia]

Need the weirding modules and Sardukar in boiler suits

[@hibernianinitiate]

weirding modules weren't in the books. one of the things that ruins the lynch version. Denis Villenuve's 2021 adaptation is more book-accurate and all-around better

[@johnberry9949]

Don't play strategy against someone who can see the future 🤙

[@On2wls]

Reading the book and later watching the FIRST movie, I originally remarked how well the movie followed the book .... I think I'll stick with the first movie.

[@Nazeem2010]

Alia sounds like a Warhammer 40k Ork. "OY, LET DA STORM 'AVE WUT IT KAN TOIK!"

[@bobgom4915]

What a silver fox the emperor is

[@prodprod]

This really doesn't make sense -- in the book (and in the earlier movie) they use "atomics" to breach the shield wall so that the sand worms can enter and attack the forces of the Baron and the Emperor -- not so that air craft can fly in. They've already established, early in the movie that ornithopters can fly over the shield wall without any trouble -- so there wouldn't be any need to blow the shield wall to let aircraft through. The whole point is that when a big sand storm comes up, as they tend to on Arrakis, air power becomes useless -- what matters is "desert" power - and only the Fremen control it. And that's why they need to blow the shield wall -- so that they can get the sand worms through. This is just something else -- along with the costumes and the casting and the bad CGI that doesn't work about this version of Dune. It's not the original didn't have major flaws -- but it was well cast and well acted and a lot of the design elements were really excellent. The TV version, alas, was just not good.

[@tmage23]

I think the advantage the the miniseries has is time. Because the story unfolds over several hours, it can cover more of the original material. The disadvantages of course are budget, direction, production quality (which ties into budget) and acting. If you could somehow combine the cast and the production quality of the original with the script of the miniseries, you'd have a pretty solid adaptation.

[@gawainethefirst]

“Wierding Modules” is better?

[@VideoMask93]

The Fremen did use the worms in this version. You just don't see them in this clip.

[@alexsolomon8127]

the baron gets his revenge on Alia. to quote the Cranberries: "what's in your head...in your heaaaaaaaaaaad....."

[@soylentgreen6727]

This lacks the gritty darkness of the original movie. The Baron isn’t evil he’s a floating Buffoon

[@tombarter3287]

Really? I thought they made him much less buffoonish in this. In the original, he's a grotesque monstrosity, constantly, flapping and cackling like a Sanderson sister. Not that I didn't find him scary. Don't get me wrong, he was terrifying but much less dignified than he is here. This version of the Baron seems much more like a nobleman, although his death is quite silly and anticlimactic. I was disappointed that he wasn't swallowed by a giant worm.

[@sarahprice659]

Interesting. I found this version more evil. Less physically disgusting, yes. But he seemed to me to be more aware of the malevolence of his actions, and to enjoy that.

[@thorshammer7883]

That's the old 1980s movie that movie wasn't very faithful to the books in accuracy.

[@sectorgovernor]

I think the 2021 Baron will be the best in some ways. The 1984 Baron was truly evil and terrifying , but too crazy, pervert, and not believable as a political mastermind . The miniseries Baron was a plotting, smart, sophisticated politician, but not enough scary. The 2021 Baron is not overly sadist, and isn't crazy either, but way scarier than the miniseries Baron. He really looks like a leader of a Major House and intelligent. His only mistake is his short appearence, but we can still see more about his personality in the 2023 Dune Part Two.

[@soylentgreen6727]

@@sectorgovernor That’s a good observation, I see what you mean.

[@RullXov]

Best actor = the drunk guy that played Stilgar.

[@MMCUSN]

Everybody PANIC!! Run! Which way? This way. No, this way. No, the other way. Every way!

[@MFM230]

Where's part 15 of 14?

[@jasuppen9290]

Wow the acting is so horrible, like watching a high school play. Dreadful!

[@thorshammer7883]

It ain't that overly bad. Just a little underwhelming for the setting. They should be panicking or something around those lines. Oh well.

[@BarterTom]

Adult Alia: My grandfather was a jackass. I had to kill him in self defence. Rey has entered the chat.

[@bidenistechnicallyadictato738]

@BarterTom *Rey isn’t Canon.*

[@BarterTom]

@@bidenistechnicallyadictato738 I find it interesting to think of the sequels as historical fiction written by someone in the New Republic, a kind of version of The ODESSA Code.

[@ShadowSonic2]

@@bidenistechnicallyadictato738 She is, more than Mara Jade ever will be

[@stevepartridge2959]

Wow seen some awful sci-fi but this deserves an Oscar for being so bad and They just killed off the only decent proper actor in the show.

[@patrickhebdo5423]

well the show IS almost over at this point

[@ShrekWallBee]

0:11 thats what she said LOL

[@theanygamer4044]

Came here to see how it really happened

[@Abmotsad]

This isn't just a high school production. It's a BAD high school production. The acting is unbelievably bad. The editing is comical. (Were they simply throwing darts at scraps of film on the floor?) The directing unhinged. The costume design is the worst film history. I am simply MESMERIZED by this film. It fills me with existential dread. When I look into that place that I dare not look, it is this film that stares back at me. I was once called to the scene of an accident. There was a shoe on the road that had a foot in it. This film is loaded into my memory immediately adjacent to that liberated foot.

[@joahualurie2427]

How did alia kill the baron? She put the pick in their pete, and turned around real neat.

[@galenstone9097]

The production values were awful as was the acting, but the story followed the book far more closely than the dumb '84 endeavor.

[@galenstone9097]

@John Doe Uh, huh.. #Yawn

[@Zektor101]

@@galenstone9097 I fell asleep five times watching the movie, I really wanted to finish it, but it was so incredibly bad.

[@Turboy65]

It's still better than David Lynch's abomination. Even if this does suffer from virtually all the problems inherent in NEARLY all British attempts at science fiction.

[@TarpeianRock]

They are playing it for laughs, please tell me they’re playing it for laughs.

[@0Ruzena0]

i would love to liek it but i cannot :D

[@ericyoung5184]

Wow this comment section is just full of little whiners. I mean I get it didn't have the highest budget refer a miniseries they did pretty good and his hands down better than the Lynch film. "It's horrendous it's a nightmare it's unwatchable yet I came to a clip to watch it a decade in change after it came out". Either you guys are overreacting Fanboys or you guys really need to get a hobby and a life. It was a decent TV mini-series. Cuz I'm sure when the new one comes out you guys are going to whine about that one too. Heck I bet if the writer himself came back from the dead had an unlimited budget and made it exactly as he imagined it, you guys would whine about that one too. Because each of you have this idea of what it's supposed to be in your head and if it doesn't match that you're going to be butthurt

[@andreap9869]

Alia in this just sounds like a bratty kid, while in the original it was like she was wise beyond her years. The original is still superior.

[@SuperNovaJinckUFO]

No, in the original she was just fucking creepy

[@HeadHunterSix]

@@SuperNovaJinckUFO Kind of the point. ;)

[@galenstone9097]

yeah but the original sucked too. no one has gotten Dune right as of yet.

[@OverLorD768]

The original? You meen the book? Of fucking course it's gonna be superior, since we never had a proper adaptation of it.

[@docgonzobordel]

@@ChupeTTe She was more like 3-4yo in the book.

[@WalterDWormack214]

Excuse me, which version of "Dune", is this?

[@sectorgovernor]

The miniseries from the 2000's

[@junesilvermanb2979]

Frank Herbert's Dune wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Herbert's_Dune

[@jeric_synergy8581]

I like the hats. Finally, some style. OBVIOUSLY inspired by Moebius. However, the Guild navigator scene is just... bloody awful.

[@zannaifacedancer5915]

Does anyone know what happened to that girl, did she continue acting? She must be my age more or least.

[@SantomPh]

She studied Marine Zoology and presumably entered that field instead

[@zannaifacedancer5915]

Oh wow, that's amazing.

[@crepo2000]

jaba the huttis dead again ;(

[@zannaifacedancer5915]

Lol

[@NoahSpurrier]

The acting, dialogue, and everything about this was bad. Except, the little girl. She was actually pretty good, especially for a child actor.

[@christopherthorkon3997]

By far the BIGGEST mistake made by the new 2024 Dune was to have Paul kill the Baron. Totally ruins the fun drama of a little child killing the big bad Baron.

[@rustythecrown9317]

All the best versions come from Panto's.

[@synnastyrkuhr]

Giancarlo Giannini as the emperor reminds me so much of Christopher McDonald's Shooter McGavin from Happy Gilmore I always end up wondering the emperor eats little pieces of shit for breakfast.

[@stanleydenning]

WTF kind of movie was this?

[@docgonzobordel]

This little girl is the only one playing well ROFL

[@paulpaci2517]

Wow how fluckin bad was that, haven't seen one good scene yet, good thing i didn't waste my money

[@21shamsham]

What’s a gom jabbar and what did she do to him

[@ChupeTTe]

Gom Jabbar is a poison and she murdered her grandfather Baron Vladimir Harkonnen

[@alrivera8363]

It's similar to the gobstopper but deadlier.

[@dazzle1933]

Irulen is a lot smarter in this movie than she is in the books and the rev Mother is a wimp compared to how she is in the book

[@SuperNovaJinckUFO]

So, judging from this, the Baron died from anaphylactic shock. So, I guess that's what the Gom Jabbar does

[@patrickhebdo5423]

it’s dipped in deadly poison, so.. yes?

[@SuperNovaJinckUFO]

@@patrickhebdo5423 Not every poison kills the same way. Basically, the poisons that do that are like a substance that everybody is allergic to.

[@TowerofAboveandBelow]

They can use any kind of poison.

[@W0rkf4rt]

@@TowerofAboveandBelow *according to wiki* the Gom Jabbar is coated with a meta-cyanide poison, does anyone know if it's mentioned what type of poision it is in the books.