The Battle Cats: Against Sage Theme!

Sage is new sub-trait that's implemented on v13.1 update. It's sub-trait similar to Behemoth and Colossus so it's not included on general Effect Ability target. The primary gimmick of this sub-trait is Sage receives less effect from debuff effect (basically enemy version of Debuff Resist Talents). Cat will learn new ability to counter Sage: Sage Killer. Its effect is granting the user DMG boost when fighting Sage (1.2x ATK & 2x DEF) while removing their debuff resistance protection.

[@jkml68]

i like how people are more surprised about a philosopher being in the game than literal gods

[@mr.jitterspam9552]

Gods are in it because gacha games, but ive only seen crash fever (en version is killed lmfao) do something like bc, and even then they only share the names with actual philosophers in crash fever

[@Kidey11]

Well, you know...The gods also didn't have their entire frontal face missing as well lol. Just saying...

[@seerthecat9832]

Epic music aside, i just love that the phrase "Socrates boss fight" is now a phrase that makes sense within the context of this game.

[@LokiThePug]

Soractes

[@Blahblahblah28504]

The insane part is, if this is the theme for sage enemies, what's the theme for the final boss of Zero Legends going to be like a year-ish from now?

[@mr.jitterspam9552]

​@@LokiThePugsoractis apparently

[@alperenakdas3479]

@@Blahblahblah28504 my money is on either Thales or Nietzsche

[@sparchamp2]

@@Blahblahblah28504prolly The Face but sagified and higher stats

[@randomboy2004]

WE'RE LEARNING PHILOSOPHY WITH THIS ONE 🔥🔥🔥

[@LoInik.]

I used 10% of my brain power to solve this

[@FrosTeeBee]

“Please try not to go to hard it’s just a silly cat game” Unnamed Ponos Employee:

[@artchannel4242]

They really need to tell us the name of this legendary employee

[@joaquin621]

@@artchannel4242FOR REAL. i tried emailing Ponos to try and learn who composed the OST (because the damn game has no credits!) but their reply was basically "mhm. the soundtrack sure was composed.". idk why they're so stingy about letting people know

[@ohojeethesnootwhacker]

PONOS employee number 402 strikes again

[@R-osts_towel]

​@@ohojeethesnootwhackerchina is a snagret now I am a tadpole the first time to cook a meal plan a trip to the voices of the game and

[@sonicexer1856]

I think there's one thing we can all agree on, Ponos really can make some amazing themes

[@lyry19]

ok, so... the "sage from another world" line was leading to... greek philosophers? battle cats lore experts will never recover

[@zepplinkiwigamer8217]

When the lore is literal, but the game is manical

[@theinfamousguil]

Soractis is one of the sages, not *the* sage itself.

[@theinfamousguil]

i mean there are still more stages

[@theinfamousguil]

and sage is a subtrait so there might be more

[@gestalt7529]

Someone’s headcanon was that the other sages would be Buddha and Jesus. It’d be real interesting if that’s real

[@eddy796]

Ya know when they first mentioned “sage” i really thought like, Generic Magic Person, not GODAMN SOCRATES

[@arb1ter993]

Imagine if one of the next sages will be Buddha, Jesus, or Confucius. I doubt they will go that far.

[@lenientrider]

same here

[@crazedaxebutbetter5208]

​@@arb1ter993jesus in battle cats real

[@zepplinkiwigamer8217]

​@@crazedaxebutbetter5208 takes all your sins (debuffs and damage last taken) and heals and removes debuffs. Then goes back to heaven.

[@notshockwavedemon7543]

"Throughout the Heavens and the Earth, I alone am the Honored One" -Buddha

[@Ampharosite]

Genuinely one of the most unsettling units, really sells how ZL is unhinged and a world basically falling apart.

[@Samh166-6]

Yeah something about this boss seems off, I get a weird feeling by looking at him

[@Terasenai]

​@@Samh166-6probably the hole on his face

[@justa662]

or the weirdly drawn arm they have

[@LordOfPowercreep]

​@@Samh166-6looks like he is stuck to the chair his face gone with a hollow head and one of his arms being on the lower part of the body

[@Zaido4211]

They're just an elder statue

[@DarknessFamiliar]

People seem to have a misconception about the imagery of Socrates. He’s a “pillar of our understanding of the universe” or rather part of the foundation of how we perceive it. The faceless nature of the enemy means they’re a representation of the concept itself and its expression. We are all cats and always have been :3

[@teacherbunbun4564]

0:42 & 0:51 to 1:15 the fact you can hear the rush theme motif makes this theme more epic than it should be I forgot that some theme's have that already like "Invading japan" and "Slow Battle"

[@TheDuckyDino]

Technically the rush theme itself is just a remix of Invading Japan

[@kartoffel9684]

0:17 to 0:41 also has the moon theme leitmotif

[@someguy5048]

Of course it's bun bun that finds it epic..

[@AmogusIn2024]

Very little amount of people noticed this but 0:00 - 0:13 is "Jungle Theme"

[@maamaabeats-qj3ly]

I love motifs

[@Samh166-6]

Another banger from Ponos, it just keeps getting better

[@Napogaming-gt8nk]

I love how socrates is using its leg to thonkang.

[@SilumanTomcatReborn]

feet enjoyer

[@casualkris4806]

This new stage is pretty darn challenging, no cheap perma rock stalling for this one, and also 1200% Doge Darks as nasty peons.

[@SilumanTomcatReborn]

When your best chance to win is the goddamn Mega Cat

[@zeraorashiny4897]

​@@SilumanTomcatRebornthey should bring mega cat back, best big unit

[@lancelover789]

Windy ultra form:

[@LordOfPowercreep]

​@@SilumanTomcatRebornbruh really?????

[@casualkris4806]

Cyberpunk is still viable on that stage in spite of it. Actually it turns out to be one of the better units to bring, even if the slow is mostly to prevent Doge Darks from eating Octo cat.

[@Calmtimer]

I can't believe they surpasssd Filibuster Obstructa, Big Bang and Revival of Origin with this insane theme

[@Ayjay_Puffball]

They could've just save this for the final boss tbh

[@casualkris4806]

Or they could make an even more epic version later on. I mean it is not like they dont have budget for music. And this game deserves any new music it can get with its size.

[@Ayjay_Puffball]

​@@casualkris4806yk you could've just click to my reply right?

[@casualkris4806]

@@Ayjay_Puffball Just laziness

[@Ayjay_Puffball]

My face when its a difficult exam Also i really like the idea of ponos, instead of just using moon themes they just created a whole new theme ZL is very wild

[@RealityMasterRogue]

im glad that "resist debuff" is appearing outside of talents now. I really thought it was a missed opportunity.

[@casualkris4806]

I would say it has been implemented pretty darn well instead of making people guess which resist an enemy has.

[@quipo2029]

egg came first, we first unlock the egg and then we unlock the cat.

[@Enter_a_name69]

Well who gave birth to the egg centuries ago

[@mr.jitterspam9552]

​@@Enter_a_name69the people who stored the units in eggs

[@fuertezombie666]

​@@Enter_a_name69the first egg that was made was cinnabar, which comes from Hidden Forest Of Gapra! So Casaurian Ahirujo is first!

[@mr.jitterspam9552]

​@@fuertezombie666haniwa is fuming rn

[@liamgomez1209]

gama duskit

[@lenientrider]

this sounds like the kind of music that would play when something is number 1 on xskull's rankings also 0:41 - 0:53 is easily my favourite part

[@fireyhitmyfuse]

Lol true

[@Ayjay_Puffball]

Zl boss theme surpasses filibuster's theme confirmed?

[@worshiperofChristruth]

​@Ayjay_Puffball which side are you on? Zl boss ost Filibuster ost

[@lenientrider]

@@worshiperofChristruth zl boss ost is better imo

[@switchboxplays]

I can’t believe PONOS did a collab with ULTRAKILL just after they released layer 7! The new boss is basically a prime soul.

[@konstak05]

ikr!!

[@arb1ter993]

JUDGEMENT.

[@A_Bahamut]

THY END IS NOW!

[@Terasenai]

CRUSH!

[@crazedaxebutbetter5208]

it is absolutely wild to me that this started with a single cat fighting a single dog.

[@MitchelAregbesola]

Very true. Same thing with geometry dash of how one cube jumps over one spike making geometry dash a whole new era.

[@LordOfPowercreep]

did some of you forget that they also fought a floating head and a demon

[@seerthecat9832]

That’s true, but stuff like The Face, Nyandam and Bun Bun weren’t higher-dimesional entities whose very presence makes the world around them collapse back into what can be charitably described as the universe’s most primal state.

[@LordOfPowercreep]

@@seerthecat9832 mmm fair

[@pancakewafflez]

It actually started with a lot of cats fighting relic bun bun

[@dillonroberts6956]

This music sounds very heroic, which is funny because the cats are the reason the universes are breaking apart. (Insert game theory music) maybe its because these sages are the key to saving the multiverse from collapsing.

[@notshockwavedemon7543]

Yeah. We are responsible for the worlds falling apart.

[@jarexthe3rd633]

This is just a thought of mine. The music feels very urgent and as stated, everything is falling apart. It's more fitting that this isn't just the sage/s' theme at the first half but also The Battle Cats' invasion theme in the second half of the music, where it sounds familiar but also sinister. Or it could be melancholic, envisioning that what The Battle Cats are doing is righteous but the reality of their action is more bleak.

[@XReill]

WE'RE ALTERING REALITY WITH THIS ONE 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@zotethemighty8138]

I wonder how did we get from cat conquering the Earth to cats destroying and conquiering what's left of space and time?

[@Duong_thieu_nang]

Catfood .

[@Duong_thieu_nang]

And leadership .

[@zotethemighty8138]

@@Duong_thieu_nang French Can Can helped too.

[@worshiperofChristruth]

​@@zotethemighty8138and also a nerd ofc

[@mr.unknown1175]

the sage trait is nice because it has been mentioned at the end of UL and it finally got added, but its 80% immunity to any debuff effect's duration (and KB distance) makes it hard to stall if you rely on debuffers lol tankers and dmg dealers are the best options tbh

[@Eldersh1eld]

Holy shit they went all out on this banger theme, really hope the stage is as threatening as the music

[@casualkris4806]

Oh trust me, it is unless you have very specific means of trivializing the stage (Windy ultra form). It is practically uncheesable, see it as Super Hyppoh that you cant crowd control well, or basically 'mecha bun but good'

[@Eldersh1eld]

@@casualkris4806 that sounds both exciting and like a pain in the ass XD

[@midtisel4222]

​@@casualkris4806octopus kinda makes this stage 50 times easier

[@sonicexer1856]

4m hp, 34k dps, 250 range with omni up to 430, 0.7 second attack frequency, 18 movement speed. I see it as an evolved ht boss, being able to pose a big threat just by himself

[@casualkris4806]

@@midtisel4222 Because it basically is near impossible, or straight up impossible no Uber no Octo right now. He will run straight through standard meatshields, rock and metal cannot perfectly do it either.

[@krokokoko9735]

Bro.......how did they combine the main motif, rush motif and final boss motif into this track.... Like I'm starting to feel emotional over how long I've played this.....

[@UnjenNga]

waited for this clean, beautiful loop

[@turt1100]

Shame there was no end to UL4* this update but this absolute banger easily makes up for it

[@Darviniax]

New subtrait: Philosopher

[@trainerlsw]

0:40 I love how even after all of these years, this leitmotif continues to be included in these songs.

[@darryllmaybe3881]

Dude, the way that it's actually just a dramatic remix of the main battle theme at the end is so cool!

[@Zaido4211]

The thought of the Legends (In Zero Legends) having there own themes is awesome, hope each one has a different song

[@csabatoth2312]

very unlikely imo but who knows

[@outmanelmemouni3051]

Bro i can't believe they added the thinker to battle cats🔥🔥

[@jovindsouza3407]

Genius thumbnail. Description sounds like it's gonna be really annoying to fight sage enemies depending on how resistant they are to debuffs. If it goes up to 70% like for cats, this could very easily spiral into a nightmare. How good is the new Legend unit from ZL? It seems interesting from the abilities...

[@SilumanTomcatReborn]

looks pretty bad. 30% freeze vs angel but very low range

[@wongyiixuanwrss2619]

@@SilumanTomcatReborn hi,can wave and surge count as debuff for the sage enemies,means my dasli surge will only deal like 30 percent to sage enemies?

[@SilumanTomcatReborn]

i'm not sure about that. we only know it affects the debuff

[@Kaghtaviy]

@@SilumanTomcatReborn Attacks really fast tho, has 150 piercing range and a summon that deals additional damage, knockbacks and weakens enemies. Seems like a legend version of mushroom cat, but without the wave immune.

[@SilumanTomcatReborn]

I was expecting that he will be our primary counter for W-Piggie or Slephnir. But low range happened

[@andrejhofer2007]

Holy shit Ponor is getting better and better with these ZL tracks I swear.

[@zeraorashiny4897]

I have a theory, if you look at Socrates' chest you can see some kind of swirly mark, balrog also has the same swirly mark on the chest and shisilan pasalan has those all over his hands, I think those marks will be important in the future

[@midtisel4222]

Or they just look really good who knows

[@omabang5002]

If Balrog is the Hulk, then Solactis (Socrates) is the Maestro

[@BobbyBomberBoy]

Shisilan Pasalan enemy editon real????

[@mr.jitterspam9552]

No, just fancy nipple

[@DoMayor]

1000/10 Temazo! Ponos si que sabe hacer grandes canciones!

[@adrianr.j.7050]

Épico como siempre Phonos, me encantan las campanas de fondo.

[@stalloneandrew9961]

If i have a nickle for everytime there's a character who was made out from unsorted ground material who was literally owns a shattered faceless head except the jaws in mobile game. I have two nickles. Which isn't a lot but it's weird because it happened twice, right? Consider this, having Socrates being as the anthropomorphic personification of philosophy was obsurely brilliant. Plus being as the first boss of the ZL Chapter clearly serves as the lampshade about the existence of The Cat Army's questopnable philosophy and morality.

[@LordOfPowercreep]

what was the other one?

[@midtisel4222]

​@@LordOfPowercreepI second this

[@stalloneandrew9961]

@@LordOfPowercreep Rare Monculus from My Singing Monsters

[@LordOfPowercreep]

@@stalloneandrew9961 oh thats cool

[@LordOfPowercreep]

@@midtisel4222 rare monculus

[@ramaicatseye]

GOD DAM! And only like 1% of players reach this too.

[@allanlugo7842]

We are only lazy 😂

[@nokolo9038]

Absolute banger theme, def one of if not the best Battle Cats theme

[@aruce9]

Oh damn I guess I was wrong. This theme is way better than the ZL boss theme. Well I guess we are out of early ZL I suppose and are on to early-mid ZL. I wonder if we are going to get more legends since we got him really early into ZL compared to dogu and ururun wolf.

[@paulovasquez5771]

Can’t wait for Plato and Aristotle to pull up too. We finna destroy Greece with this one 🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@mrgamer9220]

Diogenes when

[@zepplinkiwigamer8217]

Hera when

[@Creoxxxtream]

Jesus when

[@Enter_a_name69]

Greece gonna spam that sir seal

[@worshiperofChristruth]

​@@Creoxxxtreamthis would be controversial tho

[@munchler8872]

Makes me feel like we're about to fight kratos or something. It's so epic

[@spitsschouw]

When i first read he name of socrates, i imagined him to be like the almighty's, that he would have had a catified take or something I wasnt expecting him to literally be socrates😅 Also banger theme for the first zero legend boss unit

[@JorgeCrack5000]

Why Socrates in Almighty? He isn't a God xD

[@Enter_a_name69]

@@JorgeCrack5000but he is a great part in history just like the almighty in greek mythology so makes sense him to be kinda be almightyish

[@mr.jitterspam9552]

​@@Enter_a_name69._. Even though like half the gods in that set are from other religions

[@el_lea]

I love that there's church bells sometimes, it gives it kind of a DMDokuro vibe lmao

[@gio_prangija]

I have a feeling that ZL is literally just the world falling apart and a broken timeline after The Cats conquered the past in UL which may have caused a cannon event to not happen which broke the universe so now the stage backgrounds of ZL look like they do. That is just my theory

[@worshiperofChristruth]

I think that the energy of everything hiding in Zero Luza has been released and came to SOL and big bang 3 and corrupted them

[@user-vq6zn9fd1s]

🔥🔥🔥Beating legend stages with this 🔥🔥🔥

[@DrKeter_]

Such an eye-opening soundtrack

[@hugocastro956]

This theme really gives Monster Hunter vibes

[@Xenon059]

The entire behemoth subtrait is a monster hunter reference

[@user-bw4hy3ph6z]

Cats went to Zero World in search of a Sage. If Socrates isn't the one, then who can be THE Sage?

[@midtisel4222]

Jake from accounting

[@ryanpang1181]

Jesus

[@OTROMegaMASSS]

First battle theme music + Underground Labyrinth battle theme + epic boss theme + cats = the first boss theme in the zero leyends / goat 🥶🥶🥶

[@thellamadj283]

First part sounded like Evangelion so hard, ngl this music is neat!

[@nathS2]

I love this so much

[@user-xu9vb2bx7m]

Wait until we need to fight this dude in full, to acquire his TF.

[@omabang5002]

W theme W looking enemies W summon skill because there's more interactive other than spamming unit and wait its cooldown

[@clapman866]

Woah this is unexpected for ZL

[@amigireaa-tlpu3099]

Game is evolving only in post end ;)

[@deadclawh3851]

WHY THIS IS SO EPIC AAA

[@BiggBoner]

0:53 Why do I hear the damn big chungus theme like it’s a siivagunner rip 💀

[@CupapiTG]

Pure unfiltered banger.

[@thesuperdoge2476]

Ponos is popping off with the design what the hell

[@CalM004]

0:40 onwards really sounds like army dillo from dk64

[@i_like_apples_]

hmmm very debatable question

[@Sloppnheimer]

WERE BREAKING INTO PLATO'S CLASSROOM WITH THIS ONE🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@gxxthicflower]

wasn't that diogenes instead of socrates?

[@Sloppnheimer]

@@gxxthicflower yeah lol I just wanted to make a funny comment

[@gxxthicflower]

@@Sloppnheimer fair enough

[@notshockwavedemon7543]

The Sage enemy was planned since ending of UL apparently

[@GTSE2005]

I wonder what other real world figures would inspire later zero legends units?

[@unfamousinfamous]

Sage of Math Pythagoras

[@pancakewafflez]

Sage of power Adolf 100% toxic attacks

[@fireyhitmyfuse]

@@unfamousinfamous that'll probably be a thing that gets added lol

[@Enter_a_name69]

@@unfamousinfamousman i fucking hated that dude as a child

[@ryanpang1181]

​@@unfamousinfamous WE LEARNING A²+B²=C² WITH THIS ONE🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@Mxi50]

So, Dasli and Cyberstack is very bad in this level and the general trait right?

[@emegma5756]

Was I the only one who noticed the moon and battle theme one motifs in this theme

[@AmogusIn2024]

I'm the only one person/thing/critter/creature/cat(probably)/amogus(definitely)/amongus(maybe)/etc(definitely) who noticed "Jungle Theme" in here

[@AmogusIn2024]

0:00 - 0:12 is time stamp, listen carefully

[@0broop0]

1:04 this part kind of sounds like the first ZL boss theme

[@Ayjay_Puffball]

You mean the first ever battle theme?

[@0broop0]

​​​@@Ayjay_Puffballi hear the first battle theme more at 0:40

[@tophatstudios7721]

oh my god there is rush motifs in it

[@Red-MagicOrchestra]

wait, why does this give me bookworm adventures vibe?

[@maamaabeats-qj3ly]

Very very nice 🎶

[@J3ll0_P0t4t0]

Relic Jagando is perfect for this theme tbh

[@twitnobxd4142]

Hol up guys… Let him thonk…

[@irfanmuzaki6698]

Banger

[@jcol_ON]

If I had a nickel for everytime I see a boss with a hole in their face, I'd have two nickels

[@arb1ter993]

JUDGEMENT.

[@samlevrino3448]

cli-one

[@user-rx7ej2el1m]

It's kinda 4, because I'm sure you've seen clione's variants.

[@kaelkela6021]

cli-one, the dead cli-one, sage of sorcates thonkang dude, and... blue dudes that are giants and destroy cats, just bigger than those AKU!!??!! guys but with black holes.

[@andrew4042]

he do be thonking

[@fireyhitmyfuse]

Now we need a sage the face that has no face

[@dabludino2831]

Bro this music carried me in Floor 30 wtf

[@somethingsomething8643]

I wonder if the next sage will also have hole for a face. Anyway, banger theme for cat game.

[@crazedaxebutbetter5208]

I could see a recreation of the EoC chapter 1 moon fight with the face but missing a face

[@Enter_a_name69]

@@crazedaxebutbetter5208a dude literally named “the face” without a face will be absurd as shit

[@boomiestboxever9468]

where can i download the music for media app player?

[@Fireinthewater]

I haven’t seen a song this good from the battle cats for a while now In my opinion the only music better than this is the moon theme remix, (Mecca bun bun)

[@maxwellhavoc6996]

How exactly would this dude think because you can very clearly see the insides of his head and it’s completely empty

[@midtisel4222]

His foot-hand does the thinking

[@maxwellhavoc6996]

Oh yeah, that makes sense

[@allanlugo7842]

If this is a remix of the normal theme then the moon variant will be equally or more incredible (moon/mecha bun bun/relic bun bun)

[@Only4two100bucks]

We already had a moon remix kzbin.info/www/bejne/q6G9iaF5jLN7ipY

[@allanlugo7842]

@@Only4two100bucks didnt know that, i havent progressed since dogumaru

[@mystiikl8442]

crazy how theres shit like this lumped in with rush

[@italojheremiashonoriozegar2767]

The real cuestion how come first the cat or the egg?(i have a horrible english)

[@Lefunni]

it has moon theme leitmotif :o

[@miguelanjo2776]

i must say one of the instruments here sounds a lot like sburban jungle from homestuck

[@thegamingrex582]

This theme is on par with filibuster's theme but i like the filibuster's theme a bit more

[@mjamarillo1770]

He really do be thonkang.

[@reCatalogue]

Ponos never disappoints

[@vonreign5982]

Ah yes, the claasic good battle cats music, also what

[@TheresiavanAstrea]

Do it recieves less dame when unit have massive or strong abilities

[@SilumanTomcatReborn]

No. Only debuff ability like Slow, Freeze, KB Attack, etc

[@TheresiavanAstrea]

@@SilumanTomcatReborn thank you

[@nectarinna]

Holy shit a theme that actually doesn't last only 2 minutes???? Wasn't Filibuster's theme like the last case of this?

[@sparchamp2]

Filibuster theme is only 45 seconds

[@nectarinna]

@@sparchamp2 Except it isn't? It's literally 2:17 lmao

[@A-Relic]

this theme actually last for around 1 minute 17 seconds still a banger theme lol

[@nectarinna]

@@A-Relic dang.

[@Enter_a_name69]

@@nectarinnain game the song loops after 45 seconds

[@Mudkep_]

I don’t care if they give them sage slayer. I am not level 60ing my crowd control Ubers 💀

[@kaelkela6021]

ahh yes, an epic cat game that got createered from a cat and a dog battling eachother, it started out cat and dog but know its humans and cats battle gods

[@kirbmaster9405]

so there will be more sages, right?

[@Metrocysh]

they cooked!

[@aFurisk]

Ponor generates peak