The Battle for the Future: Milei, Ukraine, Trump, Israel, America, Europe, and All That

[@lukeasacher]

A most enlightening presentation- thanks, Yaron.

[@kellyw8017]

Until he blew it near the end by claiming Trump, who was a successful president for 4 years, is an Existential threat, and not the war-monegering, big business pandering, open borders to keep wages down, hate-mongering Biden. This guy comes across as a cloaked Soros lackey.

[@NarendraKumar-hq5bv]

Wonderful talk and truth soken as a Whole, from all aspects.

[@davidfenton3910]

Hi and thanks for sharing, appreciated. The realities described in this presentation reflect planning in lectures given in Berlin in the winter of 1804/5. All seems to be going according to what it calls the "world plan". Knowledge of that plan and how world building is done is necessary to effect foundational change. Without a knowledgeable realistic counter plan there is no real hope for building a better world. Cheers sincerely d

[@micchaelsanders6286]

42:15 Well said. That’s exactly right.

[@justosaenzv]

I agree with a lot of what is said here. I just want to defend Milei when he is accused of defending capitalism only in utilitarian ways, this is just not true, he always says that if capitalism was unfair there would be no point in defending it. A very good talk in which this is pointed out is: "The superiority of capitalism". In this talk he gives a lecture on why capitalism is better than socialism and although it's true that he uses some utilitarian arguments like there are less poor, he uses these arguments stating that if capitalism where only succesful in economic terms but inmoral we should not support it and so he starts explaining the moral superiority of capitalism.

[@exnihilonihilfit6316]

Where and when is this from? No info...

[@maurices5954]

When playing the video it says "Ayn Rand Con, Europe 2024". A quick google search then tells me this event was supposedly held between march 8-10 in Amsterdam, Netherlands so it's likely this is the case. It would have been helpful if this info was provided, but i don't think it's terribly important, but there you go!

[@IanGilmore]

I see this in the description - Recorded live as part of AynRandCon Europe 2024 in Amsterdam.

[@maurices5954]

@@IanGilmore It didn't say so at first, it seems to have been added later on.

[@exnihilonihilfit6316]

@@IanGilmore There was no info when I said the above. Of course I checked the description, I'm not a mоron.

[@periteu]

@@exnihilonihilfit6316 Maybe you are acoustic?

[@cozrun]

It might not be a good idea to tell people who agree with you that they're worse than wrong because they didn't reach their conclusions through Objectivity's view of the Enlightenment. Idealogical purity tests tend to ensure your influence remains limited.

[@tupaiking9136]

It seems those who asked questions are mostly immigrants. C'mon where's ma fellow Dutchmen?

[@fusion9619]

I've met a few Russians and various brands of European, and I've always gotten the impression that Russians are more similar to Americans than are the Euros. Like maybe Russians are more individualist oriented and the euros are more collectivist. Do you think this is correct?

[@RonRobertson-lafrance]

Are these Russians in Russia, or Russians who left Russia? Russians that left because they hated communism, for example, would be more individualist (or more likely to be, certainly they can be just as collectivist, but just didn't like the experience of Russian collectivism compared to western semi-collectivism). But Europeans are pretty individualist, more than Russians in Russia. They definitely believe in pursuing their own interests. But, they have mostly accepted some collectivist ideas, but often with the sense that those ideas are better for them as well. So, I seriously doubt Russians are more individualist, except possibly ones that left Russia because they didn't like its politics.

[@fusion9619]

@@RonRobertson-lafrance yeah, the ones met were not in Russia. There's an absolute shitton of Ruskies and Germans in China - so my comparison is mostly between the two. Both groups were great, but I really noticed the Russians seemed more similar to Americans. They weren't there because of politics - they could save up more money doing a crappy job in china than they could doing a professional job in Russia.

[@TeaParty1776]

@@RonRobertson-lafrance Russia has been collectivist for centuries. I believe that collective farms existed before 1917.

[@RonRobertson-lafrance]

@@TeaParty1776 I've not heard of any collectivist farms pre-revolution. They may have had some sort of cooperative farm, but that's not the same thing at all. I don't believe they were collectivist at all before, not in the sense meant today.

[@TeaParty1776]

@@RonRobertson-lafrance Agreed, not in the sense meant TODAY. Five seconds searching "russia collectivism" provides massive evidence of its historical collectivism. Thats why they accepted Marxist collectivism and the US, til lately, has not. Philosophy identifies fundamentals.

[@SpacePatrollerLaser]

From what I learend in Western Civ. the Age of Reason came before the Enlightenment and the cause thereof, mostly through John Locke My response to Hagel's attack on individualism would be "Then why do you have a name?". I wonder if the pre-eminince of the individual is not metaphysical, since I can put my hands on an individual and the best I can do with a group is get my hands on the member individuals that make up the group, but the relationships that integrate them as a group have no physical existence; and physical existence is the root of all existence and of all knowledge. Even Statistics gets its oomf from the individual events The religionists are growing in strenght is because the overwhelming bulk of secular opposition is Nihilism. I learend in late spring of 1958 that the "post Existentialism Intelligentsia" was "trading Exiistentialism for Nihilism", because "Existientialism was not providing 'answers'". When I looked up Nihilism, I was terrified to think that this was the coming thing brought about by "our best and brightest". As such, religion, being "a primitive form of philosophy" is superior to 99% of what the secualr world is offering since something beats nothing by everything. For example the claim that "God Exists", implies that Existence exists. To see what the Democrats have degenerated to; i.e. total mindlessness, youtube up "Katanje brown jackson define woman". The psychopathic, delusion Trump is speeding up the decline in the GOP at interstellar speed, which will do to the GOP in 20 years what took the Democrates 50. At this time I recommend voting Democrat. Given what Trump is both as a convicted criminal and potential traitor, and the 'crats have reached the botom while the GOP has not. If the GOP is kept out of power, they may clear the crap out before they hit bottom

[@TreeLuvBurdpu]

The Democrat Party was always evil at it's core. It's not improved by opposing Trump.

[@JohnMcAfee-se9ms]

You go on and on in your nonsensical rant like Biden so it's not surprising you're voting for the Democrats

[@SpacePatrollerLaser]

@@JohnMcAfee-se9ms Too bad you made no REASONED ARGUMENT to which somone could pay attention. To show how sallow you are, I am not voting FOR the 'crats; I am voting AGAINST psychopathic delusion. And that is only provisional since the whole mess is that volatile Well, at least you spoke your mind!

[@jameseverett9037]

Everyone is a "convicted criminal" in a Kangaroo court run by a party that bitterly opposes anyone threatening their power hold. I'll bet you can't even state honestly a single one of The Don's positions on anything. It would have to be an Activist Media twist that turns it upside down and pretends Trump actually said something he never did.

[@jamesruscheinski8602]

God has global confederation

[@creatorsremose]

Weak men make bad times. We're sprinting towards a torn Europe with civil wars. People are naturally reluctant to convert to Islam and it's almost inevitable that it will come to that. Possibly in our lifetime.

[@KirkJamesT]

Oh my...

[@JohnMcAfee-se9ms]

Which European country will have a civil war first? lol

[@TheSacredOrderOfKnightlyValor]

@@JohnMcAfee-se9ms None. They'll convert because it's easier. America will attack.

[@creatorsremose]

@@JohnMcAfee-se9ms Either France or Britain... my bets are on Britain only because Scotland is right there. ;)

[@DerykRobosson]

@@JohnMcAfee-se9ms Ukraine.

[@neilatkinson3974]

So, Orange Man bad, right Yaron?

[@Shozb0t]

I would say that Yaron sees the Orange Man for who he is, rather than what Yaron wants him to be. The Covid example should have given you reservations. Orange Man: the vaccine saved lives Audience: boo Orange Man: I hate the vaccine Audience: yay Does it bother you to know that your favorite politician is just telling you what you want to hear?

[@kellyw8017]

Am guessing he's a Soros lackey cloaking his true intentions behind Ayn Rand.

[@kellyw8017]

​@@Shozb0tIt bothers us that you don't understand context. Trump expedited the vaccine but was also given bad advice about lockdowns, masking, and how great the vaccine was at preventing Covid, not to mention the lie that it was extremely safe. So he can hold BOTH points of view. Dogma is the tool of those who seek to manipulate reality.

[@DerykRobosson]

22:05 "'I hate the west.'", Yaron says of Putin. What in the world gave you that silly idea? What number of years did Russia try to integrate into Europe? What number of attempts were made by Russia to join NATO? What number of years was Russia providing cheap natural resources to Europe such that the Europeans could thrive, i.e. German manufacturing? What did Russia do in order to become more self sufficient causing the sanctions to backfire? You mention that history isn't important, yet you rely on history to support your argument. Russia will win no matter what the collective West feeds to the cannon fodder in Ukraine. Just like in the previous conference, you stuck your foot in it on this particular topic. Pence had the power to do what was discussed. Thomas Jefferson, as President of the Senate, exercised that same power. The discussion with the Secretary of State for Georgia was the correct thing to do. You're aware of the fraud that was perpetuated on the American voter, yes? You're aware that signature matches weren't performed, yes?

[@TyyylerDurden]

Russia provided cheap natural resources to get Europe on hook, you silly and naive human being :-) Thanks god things hadn't come too far, and Europe understood - what savages and man-eaters they are really facing.

[@Shozb0t]

Russia just slaughtered thousands of its own young people in an effort to satisfy Putin’s pipe dream. To say that they will win is quite a stretch. They’ve already lost. Nobody wins in an authoritarian country.

[@RonRobertson-lafrance]

Nearly all the motivations you list have nothing to do with their actual motivations. You're projecting onto them.

[@DerykRobosson]

@@RonRobertson-lafrance is existence insufficient motivation?

[@romany8125]

You attempt to whitewash russian empire is noted. None of the things that you've listed was done by russkies in good faith without attempts of entrapment or infiltration.

[@peterboy209]

Praise the "enlightenment" religion. Paradise will come...

[@flayteatorrante7588]

"The WASP West is under attack !" ...Yeah ! and this time we won't take your Kanonen statt Butter !

[@edwardTisk-ix8nj]

Thanks, Captain Obvious! 🎉

[@adrianainespena5654]

Why did you erase my comment?

[@flayteatorrante7588]

Y el mío también lo van a borrar: "The WASP West is under attack !" ...Yeah ! and this time we won't take your Kanonen statt Butter !

[@adrianainespena5654]

@@flayteatorrante7588 My comment was about Milei and the fact that members of his party visited in jail a torturer and murderer from the junta, and praised his actions. About the dark underbelly of those who talk about freedom.

[@flayteatorrante7588]

@@adrianainespena5654 Milei, Boric, Maduro, etc. son simplemente diferentes caras de cómo nos quieren mandar a su guerra para deshacerse de sus deudas y reducir la población de seres inferiores. Su perfidia quedó clara con lo que dijo de los filósofos del Derecho Natural, Espinoza y Gropius. (Los judíos echaron al Espinoza de la sinagoga) ¿ Tienes sangre india o hispana ? ¡ Pues, éstos van a por ti !

[@flayteatorrante7588]

@@adrianainespena5654 ¡ Mi respuesta a esto ya la borraron !

[@flayteatorrante7588]

@@adrianainespena5654 ¡ mi respuesta a esto ya la borraron los Nazis !

[@TreeLuvBurdpu]

I think Yoron is still supporting Biden.

[@JohnMcAfee-se9ms]

He liked Nimrata "censor the internet" Haley during the Republican primaries

[@alexanderscott2456]

I have never heard him ONCE support Biden. So I'm guessing that you're just lying.

[@TyyylerDurden]

@@alexanderscott2456 he lies tons of bullshit on Trump - 95% is absolutely subjective and misinterpreted. Biden is "a pathetic man" at best - not even close when it comes to hatred. Unfortunately, he is a useful idiot of the leftist mafia that destroys American spirit at its core.

[@Shozb0t]

Technically we are all supporting Biden, with our tax money-including you. You see what happens, Larry? If you want to live in a country in which politicians have no authority over you, you’ve got to reject authoritarianism of all kinds. No exceptions.

[@TreeLuvBurdpu]

@@Shozb0t I mean Biden's bid in the election.

[@ltzmin]

"Ayn Rand completes the project that is the enlightenment" lmao these objectivists are funny and on the next sentence they talk about reality. Free will might be an illusion according to science yet is still one of the foundation of objectivism, dispense with that, you haven't 'completed' the enlightenment yet. It's not even clear individualism is best to build a great society.

[@zardozcys2912]

Free will is one of the philosophical fundamentals of science. The scientific process step 2: formulate a hypothesis to explain the observations. Without free will there is no way to formulate a hypothesis. You have to choose to direct your mind back and forth between the observations, the currently known laws of physics and possible new entities and causes to include in a new law. You Cannot just sit and wait for a hypothesis to appear.

[@ltzmin]

@@zardozcys2912 If we are right that free will is an illusion, science and it's methods are still a thing. I really don't know where you get this nonsense from that doesn't prove or disproves anything

[@jacksonstone246]

If you don’t believe you have the capacity to determine your thoughts and actions then that’s your problem my friend. Or should I say conglomeration of cooperating cells? I didn’t mean to offend cooperating cells. Replace “you” with “cooperating cells” for everything I previously said.

[@Weirdomanification]

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[@Weirdomanification]

Without a self it is not clear that there is any point to a society.