The Battle of Carrhae (53 B.C.E.)

[@danieljoaquinsegoviacorona1734]

In Spanish "Craso error" means fatal error, and is because Crassus made the mortal mistake of rejecting Armenian's help.

[@allenshen4902]

parthian calvary doesnt do well in mountains, they can easily avoid being surrounded by horse archers

[@danieljoaquinsegoviacorona1734]

Truth is he made way too many mistakes, hard to know which is the one that got him the title, but for sure another 43,000 corpses in the desert wouldn't look so good either.

[@lorisuprifranz]

In latin Crassus means simply "big/fat". I am not Spanish, but I personally don't think a "big error" is an expression only related to Crassus.

[@martinconway8174]

You might be right Lorenzo, but even if its false the coincidence is more fun

[@lindgrenland]

I made a craso error when I binge watched this entire channel in one day and then realised I would have to wait for the next episode like all the other plebs

[@lucrayon4182]

Alternative Title: Absolutely Not His Year - Crassus (53 B.C.E.)

[@flynn659]

That was good

[@starwarsfannumber1249]

Lucrayon Lol

[@zzjung5908]

good parody

[@Conorp77]

when it's not been your day, or month, or year.

[@PeterGregoryKelly]

His last year, it doesn't end well.

[@miridian2012]

" Nah " ~ Crassus 53 B.C.E

[@misaelramirez5236]

miridian2012 I think he should do a collab with extra history or alternate history hub

[@rd-6137]

+Misael Ramirez it would be awesome

[@htf5555]

"Cheeky." - Gaius Julius Caesar on Ariovistus, 58 B.C.

[@saeedvazirian]

Are you fucking serious ahahahaha? We kicked your fucking ass. Persians FTW!

[@as7river]

"Moo" -Macedonian Provision Charriots, 326 BC

[@suddi218]

"...but another tribune stepped forward and vetoed his veto." I'm just imagining him running up and flaunting an Uno reverse card.

[@mini2239]

One has to wonder how different the Roman system would have been if they didn't have vetos. Whether for senators, consuls or Tribunes

[@waltervanbrunchem2462]

Could the other tribune have vetoed the veto that vetoed his veto?

[@Bigbadbo121]

@@mini2239 I wonder if, after declaring a veto, putting the legitimacy of that veto to a vote of the Roman people would've helped?

[@mini2239]

@@Bigbadbo121 With how many vetoes were being declared I don't think it would have been practical. Ultimately too many people had the power of the veto

[@Bigbadbo121]

@@mini2239 Limit one veto per bill? As in; a bill can only ever get vetoed once, and then it gets sent out for the legitimizing popular vote?

[@ano1nymus1]

Pretty sure the reason Crassus lost was a severe lack of building fortified encampments. Also not enough village burning.

[@GAnonymusG]

not really even with fortifications they'd be sieged in a hostile land. Village burning would be good if they got to them though.

[@50shekels]

No it was more about Crassus being too far away from any secure walls. They are horse archers. Put archers on the walls and watch them crumble. Also he should have retreated much sooner. Not waited an entire day just being hammered on

[@NguniPrince]

Guys Ano is being sarcastic

[@GAnonymusG]

@@NguniPrince Not really the number 1 tactic the Romans had were building fortifications. The horse archers gotta eat too, so if you burned all their fields and camped hard enough you could get them to the negotiating table as a vassal. Of course the Romans weren't tanky enough.

[@NguniPrince]

GAnonymusG I know bro. But Ano1nymous is playing on how Caesar always did that in previous battles and was successful. Just as how Caesar would always frame his aggression as defensive. Well I thought that was the joke.

[@bob8mybobbob]

"He ordered the Romans to march off into the desert...at a breakneck pace". Good plan. If he had survived maybe later he could try and invade Russia in the winter.

[@bkjeong4302]

Fun fact: Charles XII, Napoleon and Hitler never actually invaded Russia in winter. They invaded in summer and winter came long before Russia ever surrendered.

[@Hugh_Morris]

Carolus Rex supposedly had the Russians suing for peace but he refused, saying he’d only grant peace after he’d utterly annihilated his enemies. He led his army on a death march. Why did Napoleon and Hitler not learn from this example?

[@aneesh2115]

@@Hugh_Morris rex had the Russians asking for peace. But it was a peace where the Russians would gain some land (Saintperersburg). Peter (the great) knew that he had won, and wanted peace. But rex thought he could get a better deal if he invaded. Much like hitler

[@proaaron578]

Fun fact: more of Napoleon's soldiers died in the summer than in winter.

[@bradlygamez4549]

Pro Aaron yea in the winter the metal holding their clothes together fell apart from the cold

[@charlesferdinand422]

Fun facts: -The Gallic cavalry contingent under the command of Publius was extremely loyal to him and would die defending his dead body. -One of the legates who took over after Crassus became inconsolable was Cassius, he led a legion to safety back to Syria were he mounted a defense of the province, repulsing Parthian attacks; he became a senator and he and Brutus were leaders of the conspiracy to murder Caesar; both died in the battle of Philippi against Octavian and Marc Antony.

[@kluasvt828]

The second fact is really interresting. Thanks!

[@bastian_5975]

Don't forget the TRUE biggest backstabber: Decimus

[@saeedvazirian]

They were still soundly and spectacularly defeated by the Parthians, both Publius and Antony. "Repulsed" lol.

[@alexandrejosedacostaneto381]

@@saeedvazirian No they were not. The Romans crushed the Parthian army several times after Carhae, which is why the Parthians never managed to seriously threaten the Roman East. Only the Sassanids did, and even they never managed to decisively defeat the Romans.

[@ICaligvla]

@I am Spartacus! Well in the Battle of Alesia he did prove himself to be a competent and valuable leader. It was for his actions at the Battle of Alesia that got him where he was.

[@alexanderorlov-holmes6120]

"46,000 Armenians is a lot of Armenians" Historia Civilis dropping the truth bombs as usual

[@asswizardofsiberia520]

Forty six thousand Armenians is too many Armenians, according to the Turks.

[@casualsatanist]

Vardan Simonyan eh my friend the Armenian genocide was not part of the holocaust but it was from the predominantly Muslim Ottoman Empire against their Christian subjects. Still terrible, but you gotta get your facts straight kiddo

[@tdkage]

Not for the turks, obviously

[@Tirajis]

Well Iran lost 6times as many people during WW1 though

[@supremelordoftheauspicious2928]

Karen Kalantari Manzooresh ghahtie jange jahanie ke britianiyayi ha be vojood ovordan.

[@TheSecondVersion]

Hannibal at Cannae: Haha, I have tricked the Romans into letting me surround them! Parthian General: Are.... are the Romans *letting* us surround them? Vercingetorix: Caesar has us surrounded! But our allies have surrounded *him!* Wait, what is he.... No, there's no way he's that crazy

[@TheHalo2fan]

@Axis Anonymous who?

[@-caesarian-6078]

Axis Anonymous / sounds like some Gaullic legend

[@TheKripox]

@wolfstudio Surena the unfortunate more like it. His victory was pretty impressive despite Crassus's utter incompetence, but it didn't really amount to much. The Roman advance was halted, but Parthia gained nothing from the war and Surena himself was executed by his king later that same year. Then a couple of wars a little over a decade later just led to more draws and little territorial change.

[@admontblanc]

@@TheKripox in the end Parthia subsisted either as a tributary or allied kingdom, alternating the roles according to the power and sway Rome had in the moment.

[@hollandmeester347]

Hitler: ""Let we declare war to both Russia and America. No way they will surround us""

[@Lazyguy22]

17:30 that Parthian general clearly had an entire humiliation itinerary lined up for Crassus, but then the guy went and died and now he had to find some other way to get it done.

[@calvinware7957]

I'm imagining the cost of this in terms of like money or wealth and the general just being like "okay I paid a lot for all this so one of you baby killers is doing this shit. You. You're crassus."

[@PoochieCollins]

@@calvinware7957 😂😂

[@goose3692]

The Parthian general, Surena was executed by the Parthian king after this because he was seen as a threat to his power

[@Sonamyfan875]

Barbaric logic for barbaric people.

[@LureThosePixels]

@@Sonamyfan875 logic of idiots in power*, no matter where they come from

[@ramtin89]

@@Sonamyfan875 seems that your civilized and advanced romans did the same with the general Ezio after defeating Attila by the hand of emperor Valentinian III for the same reason, or are they "barbaric" people too?

[@000000AEA000000]

@@ramtin89 yes they are.

[@rickypoon6406]

More like, because of that gross triumph at the end...

[@Kay-kg6ny]

Sidenote: just imagine being a random farmer or something and getting your town destroyed and your whole family sold into slavery because your city leaders (who you've possibly never even seen in person) decided to actively troll a Roman general when they could have just laid low.

[@forgetful9845]

Ye this is the sad fste of many in the ancient world

[@waterbear46]

Another normal day in life of ancient farmer... what did you expect?

[@y.r._]

topkek

[@projectilequestion]

@@y.r._ Yeah, a lot of 'defenders of the oppressed', have no compunction about using them as meat shields for the only campaigns.

[@Ravi9A]

@@forgetful9845 Just a reminder, Parthia had no slaves.

[@mustafaalwan6523]

Crassus deployed in noob box formation ...

[@shweatypalms4423]

Mustafa Alwan I believe its called defensive geometry

[@madpod5]

simple geometry

[@holysword876]

Total War squaaaaaad.

[@martinconway8174]

Turtling camper

[@computo2000]

Didn't you know Crassus? This isn't the time to experiment!

[@nept123]

Crassus tried being Caesar but only managed the "get into bad trouble" part and missed the part where you win with lucky stuff and weird tricks..

[@PoochieCollins]

Caesar had main character powers; Crassus didn't.

[@neilb143]

​@@PoochieCollinsone was called competent the other was a egoistic idiot

[@JoelJames2]

Crassus was playing Risk instead of Minecraft. Classic blunder.

[@occam7382]

@@PoochieCollins, and even Caesar's plot armor wasn't as strong as he thought it was.

[@jbatts834]

He tried being pompey Magnus you mean.

[@vladdumbrava2152]

Spartacus laughing his ass off from the underworld at "Crassus's Triumph".

[@vladvah77]

Muie Crassus & Pompey!

[@neilb143]

I am laughing as well that was lowkey hilarious

[@occam7382]

Spartacus from the grave just being like, "After 2 decades of being dead, it feels nice to see you so thoroughly humiliated."

[@calmdownbeavis7039]

Finally the gods have removed c**k from ass

[@ethanduncan1646]

The parthian general that came up with that is a meme god.

[@TheLiteroCola]

*sigh* *Fires up Rome Total War

[@lok_2368]

not now Rome, I have to study... alright, fine... one more empire

[@bbdawise]

You should try the Europa Barbarorum II for Med 2. It's a much better game and is, in my opinion, the Rome 2 we should have gotten!

[@andrasbeke3012]

Thomas Allen This is the only historical battle I can't beat :P

[@adrianramirez1746]

Gonna play Rome II now *Crashes once again.

[@talv]

The first one is easily one of the best games ever made.

[@AcZe1188]

crassus didn't have large roman onagers or large roman ballistas in the middle. that's why his noob box formation didn't work

[@Kurvaux]

Abu Troll al cockroachistan Lol he’s talking about the noob fort strat in total war: Rome 2

[@ze_rubenator]

@@Kurvaux Rome 1*

[@saguntum-iberian-greekkons7014]

Noob? You think the pussy parthians were not noob? Thats exaclty how i started to play Rome I total war, having only cavalry, i find it long but easy, then i felt bad because i played as a woman

[@MrShowbags]

Fucking Noob box 😂😭

[@cultofmalgus1310]

@@saguntum-iberian-greekkons7014 when I used to play Rome 1 I never engaged outside my settlements much. I used mostly just Levy Pikemen and archers. Anytime the AI tried to use Egyptian Chariots or Parthian horsearchers I used the walls and alleys to my advantage. Eventually they all had to enter the city. Some cheap pikes were their end every time.

[@HazmanFTW]

Man it's good to see the Parthian's researched Parthian Tactics giving them that +1/+2 armour and +4 attack against spearmen.

[@stevenundisclosed6091]

Indeed

[@corsaideraoc3292]

11

[@Harveygod]

Lol at Crassus using box formation.

[@yomuin5389]

I immediately thought of this dude haha

[@GalileoAV]

Oh my God..."Crassus's Triumph". Dude those Parthians don't fuck around. ⊙﹏⊙

[@sarasamaletdin4574]

Expecially since Crassus never had a triump, he was mad that Pompey got the triump over Spartacus despite Crassus doing the work. He got just an ovation. He probably really wanted a triumph after defeating Parthians. And he got the triump in Parthia in most humiliating way ever...

[@persianguy4692]

Galileo Gaming that shows how much Sorena (the parthian commander ) knew cursus's history

[@htf5555]

It kind of pissed me off. I played a lot of Total war so I'm fond of Rome and find that showboating a bit insulting. Anyway that shithead Sorena got executed later so fuck him.

[@persianguy4692]

htf5555 why ? by standards of the time he was quit clever and made sure the romans understand the consequence of attacking his territory most generals of the time would have just killed all the soldiers(sorry for bad English )

[@chainedoj]

Consequences are one thing. Parading a soldier dressed as a woman is just bizarre. No, most generals at the time would enslave the captured soldiers, perhaps kill some, which the Parthians did.

[@MephLeo]

In Portuguese you can call a gross error an _erro crasso_, literally meaning "crassus error". I guess that's a deserved tribute.

[@nellicosta7701]

Leopoldo Aranha Em português de Portugal? É que sou brasileira e não conhecia essa expressão.

[@filipelimartins]

eu sou brasileiro e ja escutei essa expressão

[@nellicosta7701]

Filipe Martins Sério? Caramba, nunca tinha escutado!

[@filipelimartins]

sim, inclusive uso bastante essa expressão e só descobri o que ela significa ontem hasushauasuh

[@caracaes]

"Crassus" em latim também significa "grande" Ou seja, mesmo em Latim, e mesmo antes da morte de crassus, "crassus error" significa "grande erro". Então pode ser que a expressão já existia antes da morte de Crassus.

[@S0RGEx]

Even after all that you have to feel kinda bad for Crassus, losing his son and being taunted by his severed head. I understand why he essentially went into shock.

[@Saurophaganax1931]

Pride cometh before the fall. It’s worth remembering that this entire war was nothing more than Crassus’ personal vanity project. How many people do you think senselessly lost their lives just so Crassus could earn some personal glory? How many more do you think would have died had he not failed so fantastically? It’s hard to feel bad for a man who marched in there for no other reason but to murder, steal, and enslave for his own enrichment.

[@jerm70]

@@andrewcornelio6179 You are afforded vanity when you can bring victory. A few dead Legion here and there is fine if you can make up for their lost. Crassus fucked that campaign up hard from the moment he blindly walked into the desert with no information beyond guys on horses.

[@iMajoraGaming]

@@jerm70 nah, bad logic.

[@jerm70]

@@iMajoraGaming It's really not though. Caesar messed up a ton but most of his men got to go home. The entire Civil War was to protect Caesar's vanity project. The difference is that Caesar didn't blindly tell his men to walk into the desert.

[@diollinebranderson6553]

@@iMajoraGaming what? its not a bad logic mate. and indeed crassus was blinded by wealth

[@badgergaucho99]

10:30 Fun fact: "parthian shot" ended up becoming an expression used by the romans to refer to those who keep yelling insults as they leave. Either way, Crassus was a noob.

[@saeedvazirian]

*All Greco-Romans were noobs.

[@JonatasAdoM]

He made the noob box

[@Userius1]

+Sepehr Voshmgir Nope

[@saeedvazirian]

Yep. Compared to Persians, Greeks and Romans were absolute shite in leadership, governance and creativity in leadership. Darius III, who Arrian and Plutarch call weak and icomptenet made more long-lasting leadership decisions despite his "failures" than Alexander. One of the biggest reasons why Iranian culture is still alive is thanks to Darius III. For example was appointing a satrap to Persepolis, one which no other Achaemenid had done. This allowed a decisive ambush against Alexander's men and made all Greeks and Romans to never dare invade Persia again. He appointed historians to copy their work into both tablets and paper (goat and sheepskin ofcourse) as a fail safe. Alexander the Great [Failure] on the other hand decided to burn a palace he just invaded, force his own cultural and religious ideals and language on people on the basis that they are just Persians. Darius III's customs still live in Iran and Greater Iran to this day. Alexander's don't. But ofcourse propaganda is propaganda and blind people will revere a thug (the Macedonian) and vilify or disrespect the intelligent (the Persian).

[@Userius1]

+Sepehr Voshmgir You can literally find scores of people that support the Persian side of history...

[@paulliu8502]

so basically crassus invented the total war noobbox

[@NoahWeaverRacing]

The way I see it is 1. Crassus started an unprovoked war (even Caesar had some version of a flimsy excuse) 2. He sent Soldiers to a garrison offer from a town in the empire he was attacking. 3. He constantly shrugged off the advice of his council. No man has all the answers and especially in war and always needs to accept advice of his council occasionally. 4. Chased an army in the desert away from water and food supplies (Caesar would have always put himself in a position to intercept supplies). 5. Indecisive leadership. He second guessed his tactics and when faced with encirclement he attempted very little to at least temporarily suppress the Parthian arrows and created some form of escape/ fortified encampment 6. Declined help from an allied power who’s cavalry would have significantly helped Crassus in a battle against Parthian horse archers. 6.5- the Armenian cavalry could have given Crassus the information he so desperately needed to execute a firm battle plan for where and how to invade.

[@Smartacus98]

2,000 years on and this is still the cringiest moment in history

[@Uroboro_Djinn]

I know a certain WW2 French line that would like to have a word with you.

[@CloudCosm0ss]

@@Uroboro_Djinn .

[@admontblanc]

@@Uroboro_Djinn the world's most impregnable defense line, defeated by some sneaky bois going behind it ;)

[@Boxghost102]

@Brylle Cruz Really, I heard that the French didn't defend the forest at Sedan because they thought the germans couldn't get through the trees? That being said, the Maginot was still strong and stopped the germans directly attacking it.

[@adamclark1972uk]

@Brylle Cruz No. Was it good?

[@haraldr3223]

The "Nah" led to his demise

[@Weatherboy1102]

18:34 such a humiliating defeat that it caused HC’s microphone to downgrade as it seems

[@estebson]

It was such a cringe defeat even the audio quality cringed away

[@freycomm35]

The Chinese had a fairly simple (albeit expensive) way to deal with horse archers employing Parthian tactic. In a similar period, the chinese Han dynasty embarked on punitive raids deep into Mongolia. Han with their previous experience in dealing with the nomads employed a large percentage of infantry crossbowmen/archers. Almost half of the infantry were ranged troops armed with strong crossbows and bows. Even though both the Han and Mongolians used similar composite technology in their bow construction, horse archers use drastically smaller bows than the infantry counter part. Horse archer can't use big bows due to it interfering with them riding. The chinese crossbows were extremely effective. Not only it has an aiming device allowing it easy estimation of range. It also outranges horse archers due to its size, bigger the bow, more power, more power, longer range. So when the Mongolians tried to use shoot and scope against a large formation of Han infantry they were simply out matched. The horsemen lose the range engagement and can't charge in due to the other half the infantry were spearmen. Infantry ranged troops are also denser, because horses are bigger, so they can output far more arrows/bolts per area. Han's punitive raids were far more successful as a result.

[@Tirajis]

Works in theory but the romans Never had Good archers or cavalry. Also the parthians in this instance had an unlimmited Supply of arrows

[@Ildskalli]

But there wasn't an unlimited supply of horses and archers. Honestly, given the massive Roman numerical advantage, even a large force of soldiers with slings could've beaten the Parthians - just move the box each time you run out of rocks to sling at the horsemen :D

[@Kurvaux]

Ildskalli Cough cough Mount jindarus cough cough

[@Ildskalli]

What happened at Mount Jindarus? I honestly have no idea :/

[@Tirajis]

@@Ildskalli again, works in theory, but again the roman archers/skirmishers and bows were significantly inferior to the parthians. Also men don't want to die, so the romans wouldn't really be able to just hunt after the parthians until they ran of, because they would take massive casualties trying to do so. They only reasonable thing to do for crassus would have been to force a pitched battle by taking parthian settlements and thus taking out the parthian supplies etc., forcing them to engage the romans.

[@rin_etoware_2989]

This is the perfect tragedy. A man who desires glory being ruined by his own hubris.

[@Smikkelboy69]

Shame those soldiers had to die, this is why you shouldnt join the army.

[@cheap1.05]

Bernard Bruinsma what if are conscripted

[@commanderkei9537]

Bernard Bruinsma This is exactly why you try to become an officer, so you can stop this sort of thing from happening, and be there for the poor chaps who happen to be caught in it

[@facelessman9224]

Kind of like what happened to Hillary.

[@RoboBoddicker]

Ah, yes. The vain, avaricious rich man, known for his sleazy business tactics, reviled by the populace for initiating a foreign war with no tactical benefit except to further inflate his own bloated ego, whose obvious incompetence is matched only by his arrogance, who repudiates the wise counsel of his allies and instead draws close to him a treacherous man of dubious origin who leads him and his men into the jaws of utter destruction. Remind you of anyone today? That's right. It's just like Hillary Clinton.

[@maxis2k]

Crassus: "Pompey! How far from Rome do I have to go to get away from that name!" Pompey: "Oh don't worry. You won't hear it again."

[@evershumor1302]

crassus, think OUTSIDE the box!

[@fristnamelastname5549]

But he is a Square! How can he think out side the box?

[@PeterGregoryKelly]

Boxed in.

[@Bartooc]

He did and it killed his son.

[@stevengrant4117]

This is gold just like Crassus insides

[@Gorboduc]

12:51 the Boxer Rebellion.

[@TheBasjenator]

That Parthian General has no chill.

[@thankstfh3227]

what is his name

[@thankstfh3227]

TheBasjenator Thanks I needed to know the name of the world's savigest savigest person XD

[@CarrowMind]

It's ok, the Parthian king at the time grew jealous of Surena's (the Parthian General) fame and had him executed. That's what you get for excessive showboating.

[@gaiusjuliuscaesar8450]

Thanks, that was getting to depressive.

[@nebeskisrb7765]

@CarrowMind: Fuck man, this entire story ends up in a downer.

[@hollandmeester347]

Crassus went to Parthia for eternal glory. All he got was a mouth full of gold and 2000 years of shame.

[@neilb143]

Mouth full of gold out-of-context sounds pretty good

[@AlgaeNymph]

Here's a case of defeat not due to stupidity, but *miscalculation.* The Armenian ruler's offer seemed too good to be true, and was beyond his initial goals anyway. Furthermore, a square would've been perfect for thwarting being flanked. He did everything *right,* but only in the context of what he knew. Except chasing after an army in the middle of the desert instead of city-hopping; that was fucking dumb.

[@Tirajis]

AlgaeNymph well if the Armenians would have been with Crassus, the main parthian Army would have fought against them. Surenas Force was only meant to delay the romans until the King dealt with the Armenians, which he did, but the romans heavy infantry was just no Match to the parthian heavy cav in an open plain.

[@LyricalDJ]

I'd argue he didn't do everything right at all. Saying it was within the context of what he knew doesn't make it okay - he chose to start a war against a foe he sorely underestimated and which fought in a way his army wasn't capable of easily defeating. He chose not to scout. He had the initiative, he had the time and opportunity. Therefore, to be thwarted by his lack of knowledge was maybe his biggest mistake alongside his underestimation of his enemy and his overestimation of himself (not listening to his advisors again and again).

[@napoleoncomplex2712]

It's certainly hard to believe Caesar would be so reckless... or is it? Caesar did chase various Gallic armies out into No Man's Land from time to time. There are moments where I believe if the Gauls had just been as clever as Surena, they would have wiped Caesar out prematurely, and we'd be talking about just another Roman disaster during the dying years of the Republic. Caesar tended to make better use of reconnaissance though, so he might have known what he was up against, and I don't think he would have used Crassus' box formation. The box formation does make a bit of sense against a full cavalry army because, as the video says, it covers any potential flanks. However, Caesar would probably have found out about the size of the Parthian army in the first place. He might also have recognised the withdrawal into the desert as the (in hindsight obvious) lure that it was.

[@aleksandarnikolovski9518]

@@napoleoncomplex2712 Well that's why experience and being able to adapt to the situation is the difference we remember Caesar as a great general and Crassus as a wealthy man who was looking for glory, but found only his doom.

[@suyci]

I'd almost argue the same thing, but there is one thing that always kept Romans back: their dumb pride and refusal to use cavalry. Crassus logically had no other option but to accept the foreign army for a lot of reasons: 1. Intel on both the surrounding terrain and the enemy army 2. Free cavalry, which you need when fighting other cavalry units, especially when it comes to ranged cavalry. 3. A stronger bond with the local populace which makes annexing easier I'd fear being backstabbed as well, but anything is better than trying to fight an unknown enemy in hostile terrain without a supply line.

[@baggelistsormpatzoglou7862]

My Lord, I am informed that the Armenian king is willing to aid us in our cause giving us a large portion of his army counting 46.000 men and providing us with a safe passage through his Kingdom. Should we accept his offer, the decision is yours. -Crassus : Nah.

[@aleksandarnikolovski9518]

Nah, we march deep in enemy territory, through the fucking desert without stopping, looking for some horsey bois.

[@robopope7584]

Nah we’ll just decide to deploy in a dumb way after chasing down an army of horse archers a quarter our size and suffer a decisive defeat.

[@hammer3721]

The thing is, the Armenians were mainly doing it because they wanted Crassus to basically fight the main Parthian army for them.

[@Yrkr785]

@@hammer3721 the 46,000 Armenian army was bigger than the 40,000 Roman army how does that add up

[@hammer3721]

@@Yrkr785 It adds up because the bulk of the Parthian Army was actually preparing to invade Armenia. The army at Carrhae was just a token force compared to what Crassus would have had to face in Armenia.

[@mushroomsamba82]

"Crassus's Triumph" Absolutely brutal 😂

[@jacquesmesrine3244]

Apart from forcing Crassus onto that wild horse, this was incredibly humiliating for Rome.

[@hitrapperandartistdababy]

Fox D Yeah that one is pretty damn funny and humiliating

[@sebastiangorka200]

Just quality ownage

[@a.h.tvideomapping4293]

Fox D *Khosrau’s Better Antioch*

[@sebastiangorka200]

@@a.h.tvideomapping4293 "Why doesn't somebody build a town that just works? Somebody did."

[@IronWarrior86]

20,000 legionaries annihilated to the loss of 38 Cataphracts. It was a Parthian stomp.

[@saguntum-iberian-greekkons7014]

No way, it was a dick move, try to play like that in Rome total war series against an opponent and ask him how he felt after you just brought horse vagina mounted archers, go ahead go play the parthian way in a tournament and we will see if the comments congratulates you or insult you of fucking coward

[@horstherbert35]

@@saguntum-iberian-greekkons7014 don't hate the player, hate the game The strategy of moving faster and having more range is basically invincible as long as it stays out of choke points. that also was the main advantage that the legions had over the hoplites

[@saguntum-iberian-greekkons7014]

@@horstherbert35 yeah but guess what the startegy (hit and run is inspired by real tactics of steppe nomad pussies, turkic parthians, even Scythians at some points)

[@ImiriAgami22]

@@saguntum-iberian-greekkons7014 someones salty👌

[@krandom9283]

@@ImiriAgami22 Miri as in Sarawak?

[@Zoe-cl7eo]

Fun fact: While the Romans suffered heavy casualties, the Parthians only lost about 38 Heavy Calvary and a light amount of Horse Archers.

[@viraloracle5151]

he left out the parthian loses and also name of parthain general lol he is biased to be honest.

[@MlokLik]

How can you NOT be biased in such an EXCRUCIATING defeat? Romans were left to lick their wounds. As a german, it makes me happy.

[@tony9161]

name öga büga, where the Italic women at.

[@frenchguitarguy1091]

NewsOracle tbh I don’t think he’s biased. Without casualties the fact that a force of 10.000 beat one way bigger than it speaks for itself. This is because this battle is the result of Roman and specifically Crasus’s incompetence. He had the chance to accept Armenian aid, to scout before advancing, to stop encirclement (if he hadn’t formed a square he might have actually won or been better off as flanking with a much smaller force is quite hard.

[@garysanders6091]

Bias to what? I'm confused on how you can be biased with history, is there some political drive picking Romans over Parthains or Partians over Romans?

[@GrayCatbird1]

An impressive display of military strategy from the Parthians. Always sobering too to remember just how brutal and ruthless ancient warfare routinely was with regards to the defeated.

[@safrussalmus9056]

17:27 So that's where GRR Martin got the ideo of viserys coronation...

[@eldorados_lost_searcher]

Safrus Salmus Yup. Also see the Black Dinner for the Red Wedding, Greek Fire for Wildfire, the Wars of the Roses for the general outline of the series, and the Jannisaries for the Unsullied. GRRM toned up some, and toned down others, but he does it with style.

[@TheBacknblack92]

Safrus Salmus yes. In the A Song of Ice and Fire universe Every single thing. Every event, family, and character have their basis in either historical fact or mythology Nothing about it is new. Nothing. The unique thing is putting it all together in one epic story. GRRM basically reforged human history and mythology into a giant story. Sam might be the only unique thing since he's GRRMs Mary Sue character (he represents GRRM himself) If you don't know where an aspect of the novels comes from it's just because you don't know that part of history/mythology yet. It's great learning more because you'll slowly start to see how everything fits together The war of the five kings is the war of the roses The red wedding is the black dinner The white walkers are Ragnaroks Jotun (or frost giants). They'll come and destroy the world in a great long winter and kill the gods and only two humans will survive to repopulate I could write a fucking novel about how many different historical and mythological things the ASOIAF books have in them. I've found hundreds of different things

[@nebeskisrb7765]

Well, most of the novels you read is just a reforging of older ideas. Rarely anything is original.

[@iraqlobster7678]

dont forget that the tactics ramsay used in the battle of the bastards lokked like hannibals in the battle cannae

[@JJ-sq1fv]

@@TheBacknblack92 tru but the books are still entertaining

[@JohnSmith-nf2qz]

The reason the Partians only had 10,000 men, was a larger army went to fight the Armenians. Thats the reason the Roman scouts overestimated their size.

[@kekero540]

John Smith makes sense because the Armenians were probably trying to raid while the romans distracted the Parthians.

[@Narekinoo]

General noob More like trying to create bufferzones in Atropatene and Vaspurakan.

[@llaftuo3618]

John Smith Im curious. What was the name of the battle the armenians fought?

[@kekero540]

Narek_ jwz doubt they would be able too too much conflict with the romans if they succeeded.

[@Narekinoo]

General noob Armenia under Tigran the great became an empire and the strongest state in the east for a short period, I think the Romans wanted to stop the Armenian Kingdom from regaining power in the region... even if this meant refusing their help.

[@DarqIce]

I actually went and looked up the definition of "crass" = "showing no intelligence or sensitivity.". Yup, must be linked to our pal Crassus, right? Nah...

[@yahyachothia]

Crassus in latin means stout or solid or fat or dense. It might be a synonym for the lang term for dense, but I like your idea better.

[@sleazymeezy]

@@yahyachothia what about pompous and Pompey? Any connection? I can certainly make one in my head

[@yahyachothia]

@@sleazymeezy I thought the same too. Whilst Crassus and Crass maybe connected it doesn't stick true for Pompey. Pompey (Latin Pompeius) is thought to be derived from the Oscan given name Pompo whereas pompous is derived from Latin/Greek pompa ‘procession, pomp’.

[@reinatr4848]

It comes from Crassus

[@matthewmitchell6284]

This Was Really Not His Year - Crassus (53 B.C.E.)

[@darionsolaris]

Damn Crassus, you should have not used the noob square formation. Only newbie Spartan players do that.

[@mathy1799]

Darion Solaris apparently the Partian army wasn't controlled by the AI.

[@JP-rf8rr]

I'm a noob

[@MetalGamer666]

I like to do it and fill it with archers and slingers. Works pretty well!

[@HaloFTW55]

Axiomatic For the Emperor of Man... um... for Sigmar! Forward Adeptus Astar... er... fuck it! Forward!

[@saintshaggy1372]

haha i know right noobie total war formation

[@ItzCashew]

Parthian General: we need arrows. Parthian Supply Sargeant : how much do you need? Parthian General:.... *pause for dramatic effect*.... LIKE. ALOT.

[@naironluiz8126]

Parthian General: we need arrows. Parthian Supply Sargeant : how much do you need? Parthian General:*YES*

[@victorstroganov8135]

Parthian General: Unlimited

[@red2theelectricboogaloo961]

@@victorstroganov8135 moving ammo crates

[@victorstroganov8135]

@@red2theelectricboogaloo961 inserting the cartridge magazines

[@ramtinfazeli5106]

The Parthian general's name was Surena.

[@stuka80]

When Crassus's head was presented to the Parthian King, he was in the middle of watching a greek play, the Bacchae by Euripides. The actor in the play took the head of Crassus and danced around the stage shouting the verses of the play loosely translated "....a mighty prey, we have caught today!"

[@akrybion]

That shit could be a perfect Drama. I kind of feel bad for Crassus, but if the sources are right, he really was making very stupid decisions.

[@legion999]

Also he was a greedy invader, soo dont feel bad.

[@Innengelaender]

How does this have anything to do with hindsight? If this video got it right, Crassus' own soldiers repeatedly told him that they should not just march into the desert, which is only made worse by not letting your soldiers rest or rehydrate. Before all that started he also completely ignored the first rule of Roman warfare. Divide et impera: get local allies for intelligence and let neighboring tribes fight each other instead of you. Conveniently there was one perfectly fitting candidate offering his help and expertise on how to deal with the Parthians (or rather what not to do) but Crassus ignored that. Apparently the Parthian cavalry could be difficult to deal with in the open desert. So in hindsight the Armenian king got off lucky by not getting himself involved with such a knucklehead. That he understood basic Roman combat tactics doesnt really make any of this better.

[@corettaha7855]

P K not really. We have information laid out for us very neatly which he had no way of knowing. Most reasonable people would have expected him to win irl until at le”ast the camels part 🐫 “bloody camels! Crassus at Carrhae

[@thegamer9302]

he made my total war desicions.

[@BuRsTiNxMLB]

P K Crassus was a piece of shit enslaver who also crucified thousands and thousands of slaves. Don’t feel bad for him, he deserved to go out in such a pathetic fashion

[@mimus6596]

And the BibulusAward goes to....: CRASSUS, congratulations!

[@sleazymeezy]

Omg, hes so bad at this!

[@dunadan1995]

Parthian Empire is legitimately incredible and doesn't get nearly enough recognition for keeping Romans from fairly rich lands of Mesopotamia. Also, Armenian Empire was quite a big player in the Eastern politics of that time, weird that Crassus decided to turn their proposal down - Armenians have been fighting descendants of the Persian Empire for years. And really would've helped against Parthian tactics. Oh well, Crassus couldn't command armies for shit anyway.

[@saeedvazirian]

True. The Parthians undid the filth of Alexander.

[@vardansimonyan966]

dude get lost )))

[@saeedvazirian]

Alexander died from desperately trying to subjugate the Persians. BTW I like how fucking racist you are but you wouldn't glorify Xerxes, who actually had legitimate reason for invading Greece. Alexander died by the hands of Persia itself, because you never fuck with the Persians and expect to live early. Darius III has the last laugh. The culture, art, history, philosophy of Persia to this day remains Persian. Where are the remnants/legends/leftovers of Alexander now in Iran? Nowhere. On the other hand, the Achaemenids are immortals in Iranian culture. The Islamic government also respects them. Sassan I was a descendant of Darius III. Also get your fucking history right, the Parthians undid the Seleucid filth who were way after Alexander. Darius III was not incompetent, his resistance is the prime reason for the survival Persian culture to this day. His electing of Ariobarzanes as the satrap of Pars (Persis or Pasargadae) is what delievered a massive blow against the hellenistic cunts, ensuring that even though Iran might be sacrificed, the rest of the world will remain protected. The Indians then took vengeance for him, and the Parthians wiped the floor with the Greeks. This is why Greece respects Iran now. Fuck yes.

[@louie97ation]

Sepehr Voshmgir Here I thought he died from malaria

[@asswizardofsiberia520]

dude Then why hadn't Parthia conquered it? It wasn't as powerful, but it could compete.

[@TechShowdown]

Should be called how to be a terrible military tactician 101

[@marcinsobota14]

His tactics weren't his problem- a line would expose the rear to create more casualties. He just set himself up badly.

[@chaosherald8879]

strategist*

[@lachlandebel8745]

He should've just pulled all his men into a testudo formation, like a kind of large block of men, this would limit his manoeuvrability, but until the literal infinite supply of arrows stopped, he would be largely protected, with tight shields packed together. Or he should've pushed his men out in testudo formation which would've either scared off the horse archers or disrupt their infinite arrows for the cavalry to come in and smash them.

[@chaosherald8879]

He did both, and neither worked. Weren't you paying attention?

[@chaosherald8879]

Because they had firearms and bayonets. If you have no ranged weapons and the enemy does, it's a disaster waiting to happen. He should have just accepted the Armenian's aid, it was victory on a silver platter if he had.

[@tiodichia5309]

For a long time, I knew nothing about Crassus outside of his history with the first triumvirate and this Parthian campaign. I used to think of Crassus as a tragic victim. Then I learned about Spartacus and the Servile Wars.

[@goranperssonfanaccount1956]

Vetoing a veto. I can see russia's ambassador to the UN drooling

[@parthiancapitalist2733]

Goose Hamsterson XD

[@kingcosmo7322]

you have NO idea…

[@kriegsmarine1930]

i open my eyes and what do i see? A new historia civilis video. Today is going to be a good day

[@lukedias5233]

It's crazy how the massive crusader army under Guy de Lusignan made a similar mistake over a thousand years later at Hattin that cost them everything. Doomed to repeat the mistakes of the past if you don't learn from them.

[@berzerker4026]

Happy to see my fav youtubers having sponsers

[@tyrant_hermit]

jolly co-op Geography Now?

[@evershumor1302]

jolly co-op yay, more videos

[@kyleknighttv9330]

I had just signed up for the mailing list a day or two ago and I couldn't be happier. Truly amazing work as usual! I cannot express enough how this channel has become my absolute favorite. You're style is distinctive, informative, and well presented. I only see you exploding upward from here, best regards!

[@DangerRussDayZ6533]

Dumb question, but where does one sign up for the mailing list?

[@kyleknighttv9330]

On the Historia Civilis website, linked in the description, the first page should be the sign up for the mailing list

[@DangerRussDayZ6533]

thanks. I found it shortly after I asked. I didn't check the drop down for the actual website, stupid me.

[@MrJoking4fun]

I have been binge watching your content for 2 days now. By far my favorite history channel. The little drums for music goes perfectly with the retelling of past events. Don't stop, man.

[@irodwen]

man all those Armenian archers suuuure would of been nice right about then.

[@hoplite6164]

The square probably could have worked with Armenia archers, like in the Battle of Jaffa, where Richard's crossbows behind shield walls defeated Saladins cavalry.

[@imm0rtalguard]

What's this point to Armenian!!? Parhtian are Persians!!

[@Loj84]

@@imm0rtalguard Did you watch the video? lmao

[@imm0rtalguard]

@@Loj84 what video lol you mean Zionist globalism history!? I talk about reality not stupid westerns thoughts!!

[@Loj84]

Ahmadreza Iglesias you've gotta be braindead lmao

[@vincents.6310]

Crassus is the definition of a 0/0/0/0 general

[@TheGuyWhoIsNeverMad]

Vincent S. id say 0/0/0/1 after all he did seige alot of towns down in quick succession. useful seige pip

[@alphasword5541]

Not really, he made a lot of mistakes here, but you can tell from the beginning of the video that he's not a complete fool.

[@RoNPlayer]

BlueSword You can be a competent politician or economist, but still be an utter moron on the battlefield.

[@vincents.6310]

BlueSword he may be a 3/3/0, but he will never fight as good as Skanderbeg

[@fonzyfermin8896]

But Crassus didn't have to deal with 500 Aggressive Expansion.

[@t.c.bramblett617]

You gotta love the Romans. "I want to go to war." "I veto that!" "well, I veto THAT!"

[@oakhouse1997]

What would be the most effective strategy against archer cavalry with unlimited arrows when your army consists of infantry?

[@WhitepawWolfGaming]

Not walking in the middle of an open desert would be a good start.

[@mathy1799]

Oak House Preparation and a clear and obtainable goal is what Crasius should have done. Don't walk of into the middle of the desert without any scouting which causes you to fight on a terrain favouring the enemy. And if you have a clear goal, like capturing a city or strategic hilltop you can focus your men and push to that location like moving the whole square. A hill can't run away when you get close. The best option if you have to face your enemy in open battle and you have time to prepare is: better/more skirmishes. Archers can, most likely, shoot more powerful bows than horsearchers, mainly because they stand on solid ground. This gives them more range and power. Combine this with some cover and higher concentration(higher concentration=deadlier raining arrows) of the archers and they can take out any archer cavalry unit) One should also note that losing 100 horse archers is worse than losing 100 normal archers since you also lose 100 horses.

[@oakhouse1997]

and easier targets maybe, once dismounted a direct assault may cause routing. I must admit it´s a shame the rarely specify unit descriptions more than how heavy and either infantry or cavalry.

[@tn9711]

Oak House It would depend on the terrain of the battlefield

[@evershumor1302]

Mathyas i'll sent this to crassus when I see him.

[@bbarbeck]

Man, someone needs to make a Game of Thrones style Rome series, this would have been PERFECT for a drama series, and this shit ACTUALLY happened

[@danielvictor3262]

There's already a tv series by HBO creatively titled 'Rome', and a lot of scenes in GoT are heavily copied from the 'Rome' series

[@zakback9937]

and that ended because the budget cost was to high as they spent a lot for the props to be accurate.

[@TheBacknblack92]

zakback99 yup. The entire second half of the second season had to condense three seasons worth of stuff into half a season. That's why Octavian inexplicably gets his actor changed midseason. They couldn't tell the story with an actor who looked that young and they thought they'd have longer to do it and the actor would naturally age up during the course of the show. They got the news they were cancelled partway through the filming of the second season so it shows

[@uchicha666]

Rome is an awesome TV series. Love it.

[@honeybadger4396]

+Don Donnie Lol what the fuck are you even talking about? That's a big ass lie

[@Sobieski1]

The drop in audio quality around 18:40 had me troubleshooting my setup way too long

[@N14-b1m]

Watching a documentary of human evolution. Notification pops up, Historia Civilis posted a new video. Fuck evolution then.

[@evershumor1302]

N14 learning exams for tomorrow. Historia Civilis is more important than chemistry.

[@merrittanimation7721]

Pepe Jazbec It's more important than physics

[@PizzaManager101]

more important than my ap macroeconomics exam tomorrow

[@danielvictor3262]

if you are a god watching humans interact is much more interesting than creating them

[@edthoreum7625]

more important than spanking my publius?

[@prayzqek9112]

"what if the khergits had good AI?"

[@teegamew766]

Historically, these armies are superb in a large field but aren't as good at taking cities that are built to withstand siege.

[@11leeson]

Sw4gBeard Twas a mount and blade reference my dude

[@teegamew766]

@@11leeson I'm aware. The statement applies.

[@admontblanc]

@@teegamew766 heavy cav isn't all that useful either in most sieges, but bowmen can always put work wether they're afoot or on horse back. Mongols swept hundreds of places, including walled cities using mostly their traditional forces.

[@C00kiesAplenty]

@@admontblanc Mostly traditional forces, if you exclude captured siege engineers who could build seige equipment. And "volunteer" foot soldiers from defeated people.

[@niteryder2995]

"46,000 Armenians are a lot of Armenians" -Historia Civillis, 2017

[@lorisuprifranz]

Fun fact: one of the legatii that took control of the army was Cassius ( the one who also organized the murder of Ceasar). He and Crassus were in a never-ending argument during the entirety of the campaign. Plutarch reported also that the encounter with Surenas, the Parthian general, happened after a second escape from Charrae to Syria (that apparently failed because of the betrayal of a scout that guided the roman in another trap). In that occasion, Cassius simply noped to everyone and everything and ran away with the cavalry, abandoning Crassus and the infantry to even more slaughter. And in that situation, Crassus was close to bringing his man to the mountains and back to Syria. I also have to break a spear in favor of Crassus decision to not joining the Armenians: it seemed that the Armenians were conscious that the main army of the Parthian (30 K infantry and 10 K cavalry) was heading to their territories. By maintaining the two forces divided Crassus was quite sure to have an open road to the richest Parthian capital, the desert road was taken mainly for rushing through Mesopotamia and cutting the main parthian army away from the region. We should not forget that Crassus wasn't only a rich, powerful politician, He was also a decent commander. He was the one who practically won Rome and handed it to Sulla during his dictatorship. Moreover, he was considered ( by Cicero!), the best orator of his time (except for Cicero himself of course), capable of shame Pompey and Ceasar on many occasions. And He was also quite popular for his plebian ancestry and his very approachable manners. In practice Marcus Licinius Crassus was a 60 years old man that, two thousand years ago, was capable of running on horseback, commanding his man and endure their same suffering while giving speeches and exchanging jokes with everyone. We should not be so harsh on him

[@anglophone412]

Wow I never knew that there were people so willing to defend Crassus. I always wonder what would of happened to the triumvirate had his campaign been a stunning success. Would the Caesarean civil war even happen?

[@ryantoth676]

Considering his "firefighter" scheme we should be way more harsh

[@j0nnyism]

I thought Cicero considered Catullus the best orator after himself

[@enderreaper1482]

Too bad the Parthians didn't kill Cassius as well. At least that bastard wouldn't have killed Caesar.

[@mattsterh7740]

I know this is arm chair general shit but the battle was stupid and made no sense whatsoever. The box formation was a good call but the parthian army was made up of a mix of light cavalry and heavy cavalry. There was no way in hell the roman infantry was going to chase and kill cavalry once the parthian army ran out of ammo, they can just run off to go get more for another attack. He shouldve began a march back or just hold the defensive postion until they could later march through the night, minimizing whatever losses. He already held mesopotamia, the pressure was on for parthia to actually storm and besiege the holdings.

[@legionxiii8055]

Marcus Licinius Crassus - *_NAH_*

[@ChevyChase301]

Legion XIII I have seen you on MATN videos. I am also one of the generals, formally Lentulus Brutus and now ADMIRAL JON

[@legionxiii8055]

Heyo, it seems we watch similar channels...

[@sammycw2000]

Joey Kevorkian I watched his Rome playthrough too

[@BeholdABlackWolf]

I bet Spartacus was smiling in the afterlife.

[@ryanhughes1101]

So essentially, Crassus guaranteed his own death by perpetually making the wrong decision. Got it.

[@mateuszsulima9586]

i guess after this battle many soldiers got to switch to city guards because of an arrow in the knee

[@khartog01]

He beat a half starved slave army and then tried his hand against a real one. Silly man.

[@horaciochapa9620]

I find this war fascinating but the only thing I hate is when I read or listen to someone else's account of the war certain details are always different, but the end result is the same Crassus army got slaughtered and he got killed

[@gizel4376]

that slave army, the only feat i remember from Crassus, but it was Pompei, lol

[@J3diMindTrix]

Gizel Z *Pompey. (POMpey). Pompeii (pomPAY) is the place Just a little note, but understandable since in history videos like this the narrator often mistakes the two, find it rly annoying (don’t think the one here does though, which is good).

[@connormcmurphy4276]

Crassus was NOT A completely incompetent leader...he was not dissimilar from other generals of.the time. The Roman war machine valued strength and wealth and honor above all. So generals never used foraging parties or scouts to survey enemies. He was just a product of his time...he had won damn near everything he had ever tried in life...he didn't know the advantages of a fully horsebacked army, or horseback Archers (which were the equivalent of fucking aircraft in the ancient world) a skilled cavalry bowmen could reign HAVOC down on enemy infantry ten times in number, as shown here.

[@terner1234]

@@connormcmurphy4276 no, that's because of his incompetence, take Caesar for example, he would have conquered the entirety of the parthian empire

[@CSLucasEpic]

The Parthian Sphabed (a rank that would translate to General or Commander) for that battle was named Surena (a popular name even to this day in Iran). He became so popular in Parthia after his victoy that, fearing that he will turn against him, the king of the Parthians, Orodes II, ordered to have him executed. This, of course, did little to erase his "legend", Surena is seen to the Persians of present day Iran in somewhat the same level that Germans regard Arminius.

[@mysticonthehill]

Thanks for sharing this interesting detail.

[@GerryBolger]

He got the Scipio Africanus/Hannibal Barca treatment. Kings and their equals were so ungrateful back then.

[@saeedvazirian]

No evidence that Orodes II actually executed him.

[@stuka80]

I dont know if you do Greek history, but the "March of the Ten Thousand" by Xenophon would be an amazing subject to cover.

[@mk9650]

@Mr. P. Enis he doesn't

[@ausore9832]

@@mk9650 he did

[@lentoturmahub8214]

What is it with incompetent Roman generals getting encircled by being bad at their job? ”Hey guys, I think our obvious advantage is unfair to the enemy. How about we make this more level?” *proceeds to get entire army of at least 2 times the size of enemy’s encircled and absolutely vanquished.*

[@TheHenk92]

I just can't get over how awesome this channel is mmkay

[@AtomicPeacenik]

**Takes an arrow to the arm** OW

[@Ichomancer]

or foot

[@anastasiosgkotzamanis5277]

or...knee?

[@Cancoillotteman]

+Anastasios Gkotzamanis I to was a Roman soldier, then I took an arrow in the knee...

[@Cancoillotteman]

Sprite Boi Bloody elves commander...

[@Monkey-l8s]

*o r h e e l*

[@MrBubblecake]

“An army of camels” never ceases to amaze me. Like imagine seeing thousands of camels strolling through the desert in unison lol

[@blitzkrieg2928]

54 B.C.E Marcus Licinius Crassus Not his year

[@parthiancapitalist2733]

Blitzkrieg make Rome great again

[@reinatr4848]

@@parthiancapitalist2733 your name has parthian

[@Jmzz542]

isn't he the one who killed thousands of gladiators and slaves with their families by crucifying them along Roman roads?

[@nimash6273]

Yep

[@JohnWalterGates]

@Targaryen Dynasty We have to be fair: nor rebels or romans were 100% good

[@legion999]

@Targaryen Dynasty slaves used in a blood sport that just wanted their freedom

[@idk1848]

@Targaryen Dynasty All roman soilders and leaders were murders

[@geordiejones5618]

Caesar did the hard work and pompey got the credit. Crassus never got over that.

[@seba6078]

the virgin infantry vs the chad cavalry

[@cyrusaugustus4640]

Was really happy to see you uploaded a video!

[@jophielswings]

...You know what, I don't care that Crassus was rich beyond belief, and simply wanted glory. All he wanted was a triumph, respect as a commander, and the one chance he got against Spartacus was stolen from him. That ending stuck really really uneasily for me. That was horrific.

[@viraloracle5151]

all poor crassus wanted was a triumph while slaughtering thousands on his way right ?

[@VineFynn]

Nobody deserves to die, let alone like that. No matter their atrocities.

[@ThisSentenceIsFalse]

vagina

[@razrei5218]

The problem with "they did wrong, so do wrong unto them" mentality is that it always results in further divisiveness. Crassus was bad, sure - but you can't up and tell everybody that the Parthians were perfectly justified in their brutal display. It was efficient, it got the job done, the same as annexing foreign territory full of wealth would get the job of increasing one's demesne and legacy well and done. In this particular time of history, it was common to see leaders disregard the lives of many for the prosperity of few. It was less common to see brutal displays and disrespect to the dead, such as this, but it served it's purpose. I really doubt the Parthians did it for "justice" for some random, irrelevant slaves that were killed when slaves were mistreated all over the world at the time. They did it because their cities surrendered to Roman annexation meekly, and they needed to show their force, to scare them away from doing it again.

[@legion999]

@Harak Mapping The Reds' justifications were bullshit when they were murdering and torturing civilians. That does not apply for instance to hitler or his closest people who perpetrated attrocities. Blaming every german for hitler would be wrong, cruelly punishing people who actually committed horrible things is...justified, if you want to do it. They didnt torture to death the entire roman force here , thhey didnt even torture crassus, but he would probably deserve it. Crassus, was defeated humiliatted an beheaded.. Justifiied..

[@thattimestampguy]

0:14 Marcus Lacidius Crassus 1:55 Crassus vs The Parthians 2:36 Zenododium 3:54 Armenian Invasion? _Crassus Refused Armenian King's Help_ 5:08 Pull Forward, In Pursuit of the enemy 7:00 Roman Square 8:42 The Parthians Brought ALOT of ARROWS 9:51 GO PUBLIUS! 12:05 Publius is being overrun! 13:13 The Parthians depart for the night. Crassus mourns the death of his son Publius 14:21 Fear in the dark. The Wounded Romans are abandoned. The Parthians Capture & Kill Roman Survivors 16:23 Get Up On The Horse! 17:07 RIP CRASSUS Crassus & His Men Are Humiliated 18:38 Pompey, Richest Man In Rome

[@TheFartoholic]

The tactic of shooting while you retreat was called the Parthian shot and is probably the origin of the term "parting shot" which is an insult that you deliver before you leave.

[@samotten9874]

This is why, in Rome II, I never invade further east than the Seleucids. Horse archers are just the worst.

[@vardansimonyan966]

Sam Otten dude take some foot archers. they are good against mounted ones and are more precise. ;)

[@saeedvazirian]

Seleucids were long, long dead. The Parthians massacred all the greek usurpers.

[@dariushmalek6325]

Spartacus: God, revenge our death and suffering from Crassus. Surena: I'm on it, don't bother God.

[@razgriz821]

and the got executed by his own king. lol

[@razgriz821]

@@mf.m6343 and you think kids arent named after caesar? Hell the name caesar was elevated to mean king or emperor in some countries. Besides, i dont give a shit about rome or crassus. It sucks to be killed by the people you pardoned, sure, but your very own king rewarding you with death for winning is worse. Lol

[@razgriz821]

@@mf.m6343 true, worse than carrhae, haha. you seem to have a grudge against rome. But hey to each, their own. My interest in rome starts with july and ends with august.

[@Rockzilla1122]

@@mf.m6343 are you actually simping for a guy who died 2000 years ago

[@Blacksmith__]

This is basically a precursor to the success of the Monghols. Nobody had a real tactical response to mass horseback archery.

[@Blacksmith__]

And man was that a depressing end to Crassus' story. Can't say he didn't play a part in creating it, though.

[@michaelpsellos2560]

Bennett Harnisch watch lindybeiges video on this topic

[@romulusnuma116]

Which Lindybeiges video?

[@holdinmcgroin8639]

He made strategic errors. He should've known that the strength of the Parthians was their adaptation to desert warfare. The Arabs and Mongols would later do the same.

[@Taistelukalkkuna]

Marcus Antonius had more missile troops, to counter horsearchers, when he invaded.

[@GenMaj_Knight]

4:52 "46,000 Armenians is a lot of Armenians." Turks: ...Unsubscribed.

[@tatultadevossian5242]

lmao

[@Bartooc]

I am addicted to your videos. Thank you.

[@FlawedFabrications]

This sounds like it would make a fucking awesome film.

[@darkhero5296]

It would.but the western media will never film anything making their ancestors look bad and weak.

[@drgn2580]

01:53 'Seriously he's kind of dumb and he doesn't know it'

[@pcbros8671]

That was cheating, rules said max 4 horse archers

[@pride2184]

Max 2 in Rome 1 cwb rules and 31k

[@HierophanticRose]

While talking about mistakes of Crassus, which were many, let us not diminish the genius of General Surena

[@frate9165]

His genius led to the enemy making mistakes. Interconnected

[@saguntum-iberian-greekkons7014]

HAHAHAHAHAHA! GENIUS? THIS PUSSY WITH NO BALLS ARE YOU SERIOUS M8? YOU ARE IDIOT, NO A PROUD IDIOT, just like Crassus.

[@gizel4376]

Parth had different figthing style and a lot of preparation, they are on their territory and they got the suprise effect, Crassus just couldn't find a way to respond this, but i don't think we can call this genius.

[@benshapiromemesarefunny8725]

Septic Neuron That battle wasn’t fought by Surena though, he was executed before the Parthian counter attack. Plus, even you must admit that the infinite arrows was actually really smart, as well as adapting to Publius’s counter attack

[@saeedvazirian]

@Septic Neuron Yeah wrath. Yawn. Was it wrath when the Persians decimated Antony or when they captured THE ROMAN FUCKING EMPEROR? Lol.

[@ellllllo77]

“How about we just fight normally?” “..nah” *Rip*

[@fademusic1980]

"it started when he claimed victory for a war crassus won" even by todays standards I would be PISSED

[@TheTariqibnziyad]

you know a Persian is angry when he asks you to get on a horse

[@najib9093]

The Parthians definitely had a sense of humour lol

[@Uroboro_Djinn]

I laughed so hard at "Crassus's triumph" with the prostitutes.

[@bkjeong4302]

They also supposedly used Crassus’s head as a stage prop.

[@teegamew766]

Not for me. Not funny.

[@CelticSaint]

@@Uroboro_Djinn Think of the guy they picked to play the role of Crassus! Poor bastard!

[@yarpen26]

To me, what they did definitely shot above the threshold between the domain of "funny" and "horrendous".

[@Bidmartinlo]

Always listen to experienced or well educated military advisors... like there's a reason why they're there.

[@aguy3082]

He literally made every mistake possible. I think there's a roman proverb about making more than one mistake in war.

[@saguntum-iberian-greekkons7014]

Craso error in both Spanish and Portuguese

[@retardcorpsman]

It is a bad mistake that cant be changed.

[@hollylucianta6711]

Bis peccare in bello non licet, or "it is not permitted to err twice in war".