The Battle of Okehazama | Sengoku Jidai Episode 17

[@TheShogunate]

Looking back I found a new error! at 8:49 the province east of Owari should of course be Mikawa, not Totomi. I don't know how this kind of stuff slips me by.

[@gasmonkey1000]

Still a great episode man.

[@emersonronald5328]

Instablaster...

[@nickekrnikku644]

I love Nobunagas' skill to catch fools slippin. The fool. The trickster.

[@staod87]

The fact that all 3 unifiers were present at Okehazama has been something that has always been fascinating for me as well

[@nont18411]

It’s called “fan service”

[@harukrentz435]

Ieyasu wasnt there.

[@mattwobes3625]

Even anegawa and Nagashino

[@oneoneoneone]

And the great Oda Nobunaga joins the fray.

[@Okuni_]

"Do you really want to spend your entire life praying for Longevity? We were born in order to die! Whoever is with me, come with to the battlefield tomorrow morning. Whoever is not, just stay where you are and watch me win it!"

[@RudraDey004]

Extra credits

[@Rackhark]

GOT has nothing on the real life story of the Sengoku Jidai Period! love this man. Thx (:

[@SeanHiruki]

@Lord Gaylord Ondor china’s three kingdoms as well

[@supersasukemaniac]

when you think of it, the Story of the 3 Great Unifiers is all a huge Rags to Richs story, Nobunaga started as a minor Daimyo and ended as Regent of Japan. Toyotomi Hideyoshi wasn't from a great clan, he started as a sandal bearing and eventfully became a prefect under Oda, granted the name of Hashiba, and later became Toyotomi. Tokogawa Ieyasu started as a hostage, then later lead the once Matsudiara Clan to greatness and unified Japan under the Tokogawa banner.

[@Hilversumborn]

Fun fact: Ieyasu Tokugawa/Motoyasu Matsudaira also was a hostage of the Oda at one point. So there’s a bit of a romanticized image that Nobunaga, Hideyoshi and Ieyasu knew each other when they were children

[@TuorTheBlessedOfUlmo]

Wasn't Nobunaga Oda 9 years his senior? I know he was definitely older but I can't remember how much exactly, I believe it's between 6-9 years between Nobunaga and Ieyasu

[@blueberryjapan6015]

I live near this battlefield. There are three hills that obscure any vision of approaching armies. It is the only place the ambush could have happened. The rest is surrounded by plains, at that time, much of it was swamp.

[@johnnyazer5779]

I bet there are alot of angry ghosts on that battlefield, probably headless too.

[@InternetHydra]

@@johnnyazer5779 Bring extra confetti.

[@sengokusanada2690]

can we swap homes?

[@alelioi1710]

​@@InternetHydra also bring terror dosing powder lmao

[@maximilianbima2265]

Nobunaga once called to be a fool Hideyoshi were nothing but nobunaga’s sandal bearer, basically nothing in his name Ieyasu grown up to be a hostage most of his entire young life But they’ll soon to be a unifier of the land This is a lesson to all of us, that we don’t need riches, power, or fame to win All we need is the will to survive, loyal, and fearless to win

[@anonyme4881]

It reminds me that Genghis Khan was once a slave.

[@shanedoesyoutube8001]

@@anonyme4881 wait, was he???

[@anonyme4881]

@@shanedoesyoutube8001 Yeah, he has an insane backstory story His father was a nomad clan chieftain, but he got killed by an other clan chief Genghis khan, as a baby, flew with his mother and grow up in the wild, learning to hunt and to fish He got caught by another clan, became a slave, and escaped while leaving his mother behind Then, he found his mother's clan, became a leader because of his balls, charisma and excellent leadership, united all clans into his rules, and fucked up the whole world. Fun fact, he actually made tons and tonw of law to protect woman because he never forgot that his mom was r***. Most of mongolians history of r*** and massacre come from a strategy that allowed mongols to take tons of land quickly When mongols arrived at a town they wanted, they let two choice : surrends or face complete annihilation. The two first towns of a regions were completly rased and every people were killed, robbed and r****. The towns after surrended peacefully. Rince and repeat to make the biggest empire in human history

[@shanedoesyoutube8001]

@@anonyme4881 "rinse and repeat to make the biggest empire in human history" Aaaaaaaaaand suffered the same fate as Alex's makedon empire as soon as he died (I heard he died the Skyrim way while on horseback)

[@anonyme4881]

@@shanedoesyoutube8001 Wrong, Mongol empire actually stayed for 150 years and even expended up to Hungarian lands after Genghis Khan's death. He died at 70 years old by the way. Alex died at 33 by poisonning because he was hated at the end of his life

[@radenbagoesyudharanggasanj2542]

Oda "Total Badass" Nobunaga

[@cropathfinder]

eh i prefer to call him Oda "has more plot armor then god" Nobunaga

[@diapason89]

Imagawa in history: "Let's form an alliance to keep each other's backs." Imagawa in Shogun 2: "Ravioli, ravioli, I see Hojo/Takeda territory."

[@Killerm56]

Watched the Netflix Battle for Japan, felt it was missing something, and then saw your video on it. I have now been listening to this whole series at work and absolutely love it.

[@tahahadada1936]

One does not simply have a party at enemy land

[@bluknight6944]

I heard somewhere that Yoshimoto countered an ashigaru's attack right before he was beheaded by another samurai. Pretty impressive seeing as how he was probably more intoxicated than any of his men

[@suluayran121]

Legends, yoshimoto died while trying to cross a swamp fleeing the battlefield with his retinue.

[@sumiatisukemi9160]

Nobles are stronger than peasant because of their diet, most peasant couldn't afford eat meat. That's why in old Times steppe warrior was highly feared as strong warrior

[@elkingoh4543]

Oda Ashigaru is is Overpowered Peasants 🤣

[@AV-fs2tz]

Great video! You are extremely underrated and deserve much more recognition. Its is evident the amount of effort you put into details and historical accuracy, thank you so much.

[@kevrulz06]

I swear to God, Japanese history shows that it'd pay to have a meteorologist as a major military member! First two divine winds, and then a damn thunderstorm creates Japan's first great unifyer. Yep, definitely need a person who knows weather patterns!

[@michaelbandada9887]

Imagawa Yoshimoto: Heh! This runt, Oda Nobunaga, is a bloody fool! I shall crush him like the puny insect that he is! Mwahahahaha! (Cue moustache twirling) Oda Nobunaga: He calls me an idiot, eh?! Well, my schtick of being stupid is just a gimmick, a trick, a scheme that I made just to make my rivals drop their guard and like a viper, I strike! Imagawa Yoshimoto, your head is mine! (Cue moustache twirling)

[@supersasukemaniac]

1560: The Imagawa Clan has been destroyed and fades into History.

[@Ryuko-T72]

Yoshimoto walking out of his tent before immediately being decapitated

[@I-Want-The-Truth]

Two mistakes found and as follows: 1) the camp did not have thousands more troops then nobunaga when he invaded the camps as the Imagawa forces where actually stretched out thin. & 2) Imagawa was not decapitated instantly after looking out of his tent, he actually attempted to flee and was chased down into a muddy field where he was killed. Just give you heads up and still amazing videos 👍🏽

[@BrainrotLover1]

Source? Big claims yet no proof

[@I-Want-The-Truth]

@@BrainrotLover1 yeah go do research and dont be a dick

[@I-Want-The-Truth]

@@BrainrotLover1 Turnbull, Stephen (1987). Battles of the Samurai. Arms and Armour Press. pp. 43-44.

[@lhistoirenimp4537]

I was waiting this moment with so much impatience and I was not disappointed. As always, very well told and I learned new things. You are really one of the best history channels and a true inspiration for my French history. Thank you so much for these videos!!

[@Ivnnih2774]

I heard another version of this story... this one is more chaotic First Oda nobunaga did set up a decoy army in front of one of his castle to make imagawa think their main army trying to hold the castle and then his main army march from mountain path that imagawa did not know of to attack imagawa This is where the version differs oda did not plan to attack imagawa immediately rather he attack small camp between the imagawa main forces and the besieged castle to cut off their communication and supply lines and when he attack the storm came pouring down Oda want to completely annihilate this camp so imagawa didn't know that their communication and supply lines were cut off but since its dark and rain heavily some of imagawa army managed to slip off and because of that nobunaga give order to give chase before they managed to warn the other and thus foiling oda plan to cut off his enemy lines Unfortunately imagawa army managed to make contact with other camp then oda think something like "oh well... might as well take another camp" and then order his army to strike the imagawa army at that camp hastily form a battle formation in confusion the imagawa forces actually managed to form battle formation but because of the confusion and darkness and heavy rain they failed to gauge the number of oda forces thinking the oda forces outnumber them while in reality its the other way around The battle was short because imagawa panicked their battle lines crumble easily and because of constant civil war the oda army is far more experienced in battle When imagawa realised what happen he try to flee to the nearest camp but he choose a path through the marsh and heavy rain cause his fleeing army to bogged down At nobunaga side nobunaga just see imagawa running thinking like "oh shit this is imagawa main camp" then order his army to give chase and because nobunaga know the owari terrain well he ordered his army to give chase through other path so they not bogged down by the swamp and heavy rain and because of that he managed to outflanked imagawa and kill him In this version nobunaga is more "lucky" in the battle. He is still a capable commander able to use terrain, decoy, and act decisively on the field of battle but some "unfortunate" accident happen that nobunaga correctly use to his advantage I do not know which version is historically accurate i just happen to hear both version i forgot where i read or hear both version of this battle

[@rottengluten5456]

BazBattles showed that virsion in there video

[@usa7006]

The Imagawa clan is one of the branch families that split off from the Ashikaga clan in the Kamakura period. The Ashikaga clan is in the lineage of the Seiwa Genji(Minamoto clan).

[@johanchristianbax4118]

Oda Nobunaga: WILDCARD, BITCHES! YEEEEE-HAAAAAWWWW!!!

[@jeffreysams3348]

Okehazama seems to have been fought during the day... There is a translation (admittedly from the very pro Nobunaga - Chronicles of Lord Oda Nobunaga) Imagawa Yoshimoto came to Kutsukake leading his army. On the evening of the eighteenth, Sakuma Daigaku and Oda Genpa reported to Lord Nobunaga in Kiyosu that the Imagawa were probably planning placing men and food in Otaka Castle on the night of the eighteenth. Before [the] reinforcements [that they were requesting from Nobunaga] could arrive at Washizu and Marune Forts in the morning, having taken the ocean tide into consideration, the Imagawa [most likely] intended to attack and take control of the two forts that lay between [Imagawa's] Otaka Castle and [Oda's] Narumi Castle. However, Lord Nobunaga mentioned nothing of his military plans on that night and merely chatted with his generals. He noted that is was late and sent everyone home. The generals laughed at Nobunaga, saying "this is a perfect illustration of the maxim that when a man's luck runs dry, his wisdom becomes clouded" and left. As anticipated, at daybreak [on the nineteenth], messengers arrived with news from Oda Genpa and Sakuma Daigaku that the Imagawa had already begun invading Washizu and Marune Moutains. This is when Nobunaga performed the famous dance scene from [the noh play] Atsumori. Ningen gojunen Genten no uchi wo kurabereba Yumemaboroshi no gotoku nari Hitotabi shoete Mesenu mono no arubeki ka 思へばこの世は常の住み家にあらず In truth, this world is not eternally inhabited 草葉に置く白露、水に宿る月よりなほあやし It is more transient than dewdrops on the leave of grass, or the moon reflected in the water. 金谷に花を詠じ、榮花は先立つて無常の風に誘はるる After reciting the poetry of flower at Kanaya, all glory is now left with the wind of impermanence. 南楼の月を弄ぶ輩も　月に先立つて有為の雲にかくれり Those who leisurely play with the moon of southern tower, now hide in the cloud of Saṅkhāra. 人間五十年、化天のうちを比ぶれば、夢幻の如くなり Human life lasts only 50 years, Contrast human life with life of Geten, It is but a very dream and illusion. 一度生を享け、滅せぬもののあるべきか Once they are given life from god, there is no such thing don't perish. これを菩提の種と思ひ定めざらんは、口惜しかりき次第ぞ Unless we consider this a very seed of awakening, it is a grievous truth indeed. Then he ordered that the war conch be blown and that his armor and weapons be brought to him. He put on his armor immediately and ate while standing up. Then he put on his helmet and left for battle. He was accompanied by his pages; Iwamura Nagatonokami; Hasegawa Kyusuke; Sawaki Tohachi (Maeda Toshiie's younger brother); Yamaguchi Hidanokami; and Kato Yazaburo. [The] Master and servants totaled six people and they mounted their horses and rode the [first] three ri (approximately 12 kilometers) at a fast pace. At about eight in the morning when Lord Nobunaga looked to the east from [where he was standing] in front of Kamichikama no Yashiro [Shrine] smoke was visible and it appeared that Washizu and Marune Forts had already fallen. Nobunaga was accompanied by only six mounted men and two hundred zohyo foot-soldiers. Lord Nobunaga thought that if he went by the way of the beach, it would be shorter, but because the tide was high, it would be particularly difficult for the horses. Therefore, he decided to go by the upper road from Atsuta and rode hard, arriving at Tange Fort. He then went to Zenshoji Temple where Sakuma Daigaku was in charge. There he set up camp and took time to asses the situation and decide on a battle strategy. He discovered that his enemy, Imagawa Yoshimoto, led forty-five thousand soldiers and was currently taking a break to rest his men and horses at Okehazama. At noon on the nineteenth, Yoshimoto positioned his men to the northwest and captured Washizu and Marune Forts. Yoshimoto performed three [noh] songs and commented that he could not have been more satisfied [with how things had gone so far]. In this battle [Tokugawa] Ieyasu acted as [Imagawa Yoshimoto's] vanguard and made use of his akamusha red corps. He brought provisions with him to Otaka Castle so that his men and horses could rest, [but they still] had difficult time taking Washizu and Marune Forts. Knowing that Lord Nobunaga had come to Zenshoji Temple, Sassa Hayatonosho and Senshu Shiro led three hundred men against Yoshimoto's men. Fifty-some cavalry including Sassa Hayatonosho and Senshu Shiro died in battle. Yoshimoto was delighted and said 'Even devils or gods cannot stop Yoshimoto! I feel good!' He was singing in camp as well. Lord Nobunaga considered this and tried to move to Nakashima, but his generals stopped him by grabbing the bit of his horse. The generals said that the path to Nakajima was narrow and bordered on both sides by fields of deep mud and could only be traversed single file. The enemy would be able to see clearly that the force that Nobunaga led was very small and that was a bad idea. Lord Nobunaga shook off his generals and proceeded to Nakajima. His army at that point numbered less than two thousand men. [Finally, the generals were successful in stopping Nobunaga himself from going on, but] Lord Nobunaga sent his army beyond Nakajima. Lord Nobunaga said "Everyone listen! The Imagawa soldiers are exhausted because they haven't eaten last night and had a difficult time taking Washizu and Marune Forts. We are a fresh force. Do not be scared just because the enemy is large and we are small. Heaven decides who shall win and who shall lose. If the enemy attacks, retreat. If the enemy retreats, pursue them and attack. No matter what happens, overpower the enemy and destroy them. It's easy. Do not take heads, just cut them down and move on! If we win this battle, all who take part will bring honor and fame to their families forever! Fight hard!" At that time, [the generals] Maeda Matazaemon (=Toshiie), Mori Kawachi no Kami, Mori Juro, Kinoshita Yoshitoshi, Nakagawa Kinemon, Sakuma Yataro, Mori Kosuke, Ajiki Yataro, and Uozumi Hayato, arrived carrying the heads of some of the enemy. Lord Nobunaga repeated his orders to them. The army then moved into the mountains. A storm blew in from our rear and suddenly it began to rain down upon the enemy with the power of stones or icicles. At the foot of Kutsukake Pass, large camphor tree was blown down in an easterly direction by the wind coming to rest at the foot of a small pine. Those present asked "Is this was a battle in which Atsuta Damyojin [The tutelary deity of the Oda Clan] is taking part?" Soon the rain slackened. Lord Nobunaga took his spear and raising it over his head yelled "Attack! Attack!" The enemy looked at Nobunaga's army as they [came out of the forest] and began their attack. The Imagawa troops were surprised, unprepared, and disorganized and they retreated, scattering [before Nobunaga's men]. Bows, spears, banners, and swords were scattered everywhere and [the camp] was in great confusion. Yoshimoto's palanquin was abandoned by the men around it and Lord Nobunaga yelled "Those are Yoshimoto's senior retainers (hatamoto) attack them." About two in the afternoon we fought our way from the west [side of the valley] to the east and Yoshimoto's headquarters camp. About three hundred cavalrymen formed a defensive perimeter around Yoshimoto and attempted to retreat. They were attacked three, four, and then five times and their numbers declined until finally, they numbered only fifty riders. Lord Nobunaga dismounted and made his way to the vanguard, competing with his younger men to be the first to engage the enemy. He struck at the enemy but was knocked down. Hot-blooded young men fought desperately breaking [even] their sword guards in the heat of battle. Although it was a confusing battle, friend and foe were easily distinguished. There were countless dead and wounded, including horse-guards (umamawari) and pages. Hattori Koheta struck at Yoshimoto, but Hattori fell because he had already received a slash to the knee. [Then] Mori Shinsuke attacked Yoshimoto and took his head. People are saying that when Takehirasama was [recently] forced to take his own life at Kiyosu Castle and Mori Shinsuke captured Takehira's younger brother and saved his life that the blessing of the gods that he gained at the time brought him good luck today and was able to take Yoshimoto's head. It seems that it was a hail storm and the wind/hail/rain helped obscure the Oda movements.... Also it is thought the Oda attack had 2000 troops and the actual unit with Yoshimoto had 5-6,000 units.. While Mori Shinsuke was well rewarded for his valor, the scout in charge of reporting all of the movement of Yoshimoto head quarters got even more... There is also a theory that the food and drink the local people provided to Yoshimoto and his entourage was part of a purposeful trap.

[@InarusLynx]

I play the Oda clan often in Europa Universalis 4. So fun to be the powerful tiny nation surrounded by giants. It's cool to see that it's based on the fact that the Oda, historically, won against such overwhelming odds.

[@elkingoh4543]

Oda Clan in Shogun 2 is very strong too, there Ashigaru is ALMOST overpowered

[@JS-ob4oh]

While by tradition, only the descendants of a Minamoto can become Shogun, in practice it is not that hard to corrupt a temple monk with favors or bribes and have forge records to be "discovered" to allow one to claim being descended from a Minamoto (any Minamoto). The one case where it could not be done was with Toyotomi Hideyoshi who was promoted by his lord (Oda Nobunaga) to a samurai from an ashigaru so he could never have gotten away with falsifying records claiming he was descended from a samurai family and so even though he went on to become the ruler of Japan, he could not be called a Shogun and had to settle for the lower rank title of Taiko. Furthermore, the Battle of Okehazama did not occur at night. It occurred during the afternoon which was so stifling hot that the Imagawa forces took a break when a freak thunderstorm occurred and the Oda clan struck.

[@Dani-xz1uw]

Nobunaga must've felt like the king of the world after the battle, and you know what, I wouldn't blame him at all. Was he lucky? Of course, but as they say, you miss every shot you don't take. Only a fool would've taken a gamble against such odds, but he wasn't just a fool, he was THE fool.

[@harukrentz435]

It wasnt luck if you had planned it in advance.

[@mitismee]

shiettttttttttttttttttt i love how you introduce those important war lord in the sengoku period . dayumnnn from Oda nobunaga to takeda shingen , uesugi kenshin and all that.... damn i'm just impresssssss

[@youngcato718]

Oda Nobunaga: “I’m about to end this man’s whole career”

[@MacavitySmiles]

Hey keep up the good work. I've really enjoyed the series

[@SalmanAli-hn2kt]

Yes

[@unlaikable]

13:01 HOLY.. it never occured to me! my mind was blown! 🤯

[@mitchellalexander9162]

I can't believe Samurai Warriors Skips 16 Episodes worth of battles and just starts here every Game....

[@michaelbandada8330]

Samurai Warriors 3 and 4 had included the Mori and the Hojo, so, the games cover almost every single battle that was waged during the Sengoku Jidai

[@freshhands9461]

Oh, Hero of Chaos, bring those fools to their knees!

[@misterpayah7723]

The Fool of Owari Joins the Battle!

[@auraw2262]

I've seen an article detailing that Imagawa Yoshimoto wasn't a foolish artistic or even arrogant ruler as is typical (the aforementioned traits were an act to blend with the Imperial Court and it was actually his son who would pursue the arts). Imagawa was however a feared archer and highly influential, so much so that after his death, both Shingen and Kenshin would send Nobunaga a letter which could be summed up as, "We're watching you."

[@marked01]

I don't think that yoshimoto is an arrogant leader, but sometimes after an easy win with overwhelming number of army, someone can feel a little bit secured thus making him take it easy and stay at okehazama

[@nicholasgutierrez9940]

Adding on to what Marked 1 said, it's interpretation vs reality. Yoshimoto HAD to be a great leader otherwise he wouldn't have grown to such an extent to where he could march on Kyoto through dozens of hostile clans. The "fool" Yoshimoto basically comes from his defeat because... come on. Who loses to an army 10x smaller than you? It's very obvious that East Asian cultures, especially Japan values martial ability. So when you mess up, it stains your legacy forever. It's why Nobunaga is seen as a heartless leader, despite him actually valuing peasants a lot.

[@just_radical]

I feel like I've spent a lot of time lately speculating what happens next if Imagawa wins in Owari. Like regardless of what his actual intentions in the capital might have been I really doubt they would have been tenable once he actually got there given that Nobunaga spent the rest of his life trying to sort out shifting alliances and betrayals once he was established there. Like would the Sagami-Suruga-Kai Alliance even have been viable if Yoshimoto made it past Mino? Shingen was obviously highly ambitious himself and one of Nobunaga's big issues was that Kyoto was geographically isolated enough from his powerbase that he could be easily cut in half anytime there was a revolt in Omi. Now basically double that distance and Imagawa's problems are starting to look more like that of the Ashikaga and Kamakura shogunates.

[@jimsu2726]

Just want to say thank you for the amazing contents!

[@JafuetTheSame]

13:01 cant get over how cute they are

[@tenchimuyo69]

Ah... that's Koei's artistic liberty for you. Who knows, maybe it was true for some of these people, since I believe there are historical records that described Kenshin as actually being an attractive person.

[@benjaminlalka8595]

I love the Legend of the 5 Rings pictures that show up :)

[@JuergenGDB]

Just stopped the Imagawa clan today in their tracks.... Long live the Takeda Clan!!

[@NoJokes11B]

Hey love the videos! I recommend including clips from Taiga dramas instead of still photos. There may be copyright issues but it’ll be more fun to watch.

[@NigelUltra]

What's the ost called that plays during the first Imagawa bit?

[@elkingoh4543]

All thanks to Oda Chads Ashigaru armies 😆

[@Nygaard2]

12:00 That’s a bit weak as an argument. This wasn’t unarmed civilians. The lack of proper defenses against hit-and-run attacks is just part of bad planning.

[@jordanrcxd]

This is my favorite battle of all time

[@muadibadder3345]

say what u will abt Imagawa tho, but dat tri-partite alliance with the takeda and hojo is a stroke of diplomatic savvyness. Making all fronts secure except the one u want to focus on is 💯 And everything wud have gone imagawa's way too if not for nobunaga gaugamela'ing a victory in okehazama. Dats history I guess, a coinflip 🤷‍♂️

[@NapoleonAquila]

it lacks tactical troop moves, a thing that channels like Historymarches or K&G mastered

[@johnnyazer5779]

Wouldnt it be cosmic if the samurai who chopped the most heads off, was reincarnated as Tokyo's most beloved sensitivity trainer. Hehe.

[@fatehalfenni6621]

I Read About The Oka_Hazama Battle In 36 Stratagem Book Awesome I Translated The Book To Arabic Great Work Dude

[@clongshanks5206]

1:01 what soundtrack is this from?

[@cirle1552]

Ahhh those were the good times.

[@Perceval777]

Is it just me, or does Yoshimoto from Imagawa look really creepy?

[@GinraiPrime666]

Team Ninja absolutely nailed this look for him in Nioh 2.

[@cropathfinder]

as much as ppl and weeaboos dislike genderbent stuff the depiction of this battle in the "ambition of Oda Nobuna" is probably the most amusing while still fairly historically accurate one. I mean the whole thing reads as a work of fiction as is as the beforehand novel/anime adding Oda giving the middle finger to got and that actually starting the storm that masked the movement isn't that far fetched

[@james-97209]

Yeah nobunaga has been given the middle finger in terms of anime adaptations

[@rohitrai6187]

Why didn't Yoshimoto seek safe passage through Oda lands, if his aim was going to the capital?

[@TheShogunate]

The Imagawa and Oda have a long history of being hostile with each other.

[@rayhu5559]

Yoshimoto had no reason to think so. If he was to ally with Oda in order to trespass Oda territory, his supply line between his newly taken territories and is own command centre in Suruga would be cut off, had Oda betrayed him. Plus, the Oda territory included some of the wealthiest trading ports at the time which the Imagawa would benefit heavily from. Oda had just lost its only ally to the North (Saito) and it seemed like a fantastic time to strike.

[@mailman5043]

I would do that too and after that march the army from 2 sides. crushing oda clan would have been easier

[@leymourskagaming7636]

When i Play Samurai Warriors 5 it is said that actually Matanobu Okabe was in charge of hiding Yoshimoto Imagawa's head before escaping to Takeda's clan to join with them. Well the question is who actually cut off yoshimoto's head? Or did he commit seppuku and ordered his retainers to hide it and escape with their life?

[@Kamari333]

broke: oda no baka woke: notice me oda-sempai~ (i think i'm funny. this is a dumb joke though)

[@bluezero8557]

Just take the title of Shogun by Force. Regardless of not being descended from the minamoto clan.

[@natedlc854]

An Ashigaru would become a unifyer of Japan????

[@BeverBoxingMATutorials]

Okay don't get me wrong or anything I am not a knower of all but I'm pretty sure that before that attack even happened Matsudaira Motoyasu got in a war with the imagawa and actually became enemies