The Battle Of The Big Planes: Why Airbus & Boeing Won The Race

When it comes to aircraft choices, Airbus and Boeing dominate the market and have done so for decades. How did this duopoly come to be, and how have Boeing and Airbus taken on the competition over the past years?
Let’s look at the histories of the two companies and the other planemakers they have outlasted to achieve their positions...
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[@TransistorBased]

I've been completely enthralled by planes my entire life, and literally today just found out the Boeing 717 was a thing.

[@Willon]

Ive always loved aircraft too and earlier airliners are underrated trijets are my favorite but they arent fuel efficient and idk why im replying to a 5month old comment

[@TransistorBased]

@@Willon trijets are just sweet

[@michaelosgood9876]

It's a DC9! Every day! 717 is something Boeing dreamed up to claim it as theirs

[@JavanHamiltonTV]

@@michaelosgood9876 That’s not true. McDonnell-Douglas was developing the MD-95 as an upgrade to their DC-9-30 frame. Boeing bought the company during that time (to Boeing’s own detriment), and while a 707 variant already had the “717” designator within the company, Boeing rebadged the MD-95 as the 717 to brand it with their existing aircraft. That’s why the 717 is still registered as the MD-95 to this day. It’s similar to how the A220 got its name.

[@marcusjohnson7441]

​@@Willon Hey, hope all is well!!!

[@B0R1S3K]

I would add convair to this list. Still the 990A is fastest subsonic airliner to this day.

[@filthywings353]

The Trident and 747SP cruised at 0.88 Mach yet the 990 only had a 0.87 speed limit.

[@Kalvinjj]

​@@filthywings353 Specially since the SP actually flies higher, the mach number refers to a lower speed relative to ground. Checking quickly at Wikipedia for a reference, the difference in max speed is literally just 4 km/h, but cruise speed the SP beats it by some more tho, and actually a few more aircraft beat the 990 in cruise speed, including the A380. Checking this stuff tho gave me some impressive numbers on the L-1011-500 tho, freaking 972 km/h at 9100m or 30000 feet. Granted, that's way lower than the other ones compared, but I think that's the fastest cruise speed I've found around listed.

[@gleamingbige8119]

The 707, Hawker Siddley Trident and the Tupolev Tu-154 are pretty fast as well

[@Kalvinjj]

@Charles Calvin and Henry it seems you forgot the original comment by Borisek was about subsonic in specific.

[@dave8599]

A DC8 was taken supersonic in a power dive, it holds that record for big jet liners, this is an absolute speed record, excluding the two SSTs... Concorde, and Tu144 which cruise much faster. I wonder how fast the SSTs could go in an all out speed dive? (Without breaking or going out of control)

[@AMX-30B]

I just really miss tri jets, love seening MD-10 and MD-11s on cargo routes tho

[@benskilling2155]

I saw a 727 this week

[@TheJacobbridges25]

I work for ups in san Bernardino international and we get md-11 s basically daily

[@jasonsine]

@@TheJacobbridges25 Lucky you.

[@dave8599]

I like the L1011. Flew that to Hawaii back in the 80s. Hawaiian Airline. Quiet, stable very roomy aircraft.

[@flopjul3022]

we still have the Dassault Falcon tho

[@igotanM16]

We're gonna miss seeing the MD-11F when it's remaining operators stop flying it. It really is a majestic bird. An engine built into the tail... iconic design.

[@flopjul3022]

The Netherlands: exist everyone else: hOLlAnD

[@assuredaviation9116]

The A320, as of December 2019, is the best selling commercial airliner. Selling 400 more aircrafts then Boeing. That number coming from the Paris Air show.

[@finnleithomczyk5292]

This is true

[@oadka]

I think the video meant cumulative sales throughout the whole program's life.

[@franebaletic9185]

Yes, it has passed it in cumulative sales, but not yet cumulative deliveries. It is 20 years younger, but the neo has sold much better than the max

[@swiper1818]

The L1011 was the best - sad it is no longer with us

[@giraudy221]

But Lockheed survived the L1011’s fall, and that’s a huge relief

[@saamthepuffer4336]

@@giraudy221 they are making military aircraft

[@Edax_Royeaux]

@@giraudy221 Lockheed survived, but their civilian airliner branch died.

[@badass6.0powerstroke10]

Definitely agree. Lockheeds L-1011 was a Magnificent Aircraft.

[@Ananth8193]

I am getting daily amazed by the contents in this channel ..Hats off to the content creators ...❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@purpletactics6969]

747 - flying since the 70s: still flying A380 - started flying in 2007: going extinct

[@jefferypardue7509]

Isn't the 747 going away too with in 2022 with the newest air force one orders/remodeled planes and left over orders that haven't been cancelled or modified? I don't believe there's any 747-100 still flying around from 1968.

[@kaciedelgado3646]

The 747 is going extinct about as much as the A380 is. But yeah, it's amazing to think about how long the 737 and 747 have been around.

[@sulil1938]

@@kaciedelgado3646 no it's not. The 747 will live on forever as a freighter and the A380 won't. If anything, the A380 will be as extinct as the 747.

[@kaciedelgado3646]

@@sulil1938 As a freighter sure. Not as a passenger aircraft. This video is really only about the passenger/commercial side of things, not freight.

[@atomstarfireproductions8695]

@@jefferypardue7509 I would guess that they meant the design still continues, while Airbus A380 is discontinuing manufacturing in a couple years. But yeah, as far as I know, there are no Boeing 747-100. There might be some Boeing 747-200 used by military somewhere, but the oldest I know of is Air Force One which was built in 1986.

[@waterhouse8432]

So impressed that I subscribed this channel. Good on you guy's

[@finnleithomczyk5292]

The A320 overtook the 737 early this year

[@hueyrosayaga]

Because the NEO has no competitor at the moment. The MAX is still grounded, but once it gets flying again, I'm sure the sales will even out.

[@balduyt6965]

@@hueyrosayaga no

[@DaveMiller2]

Far more 737s have been delivered than A320s. Even with cancellations, the 737 Max backorder will eclipse the A320 again.

[@saadisave]

@@DaveMiller2 It's easy to say that when the 737 has been around for two more decades than the a320. And Airbus has built 10,110 a320s, just 700 less than Boeing 737s, despite being two decades late.

[@saadisave]

@@hueyrosayaga MAX represents a betrayal of airlines by Boeing. I'm not sure that airlines will ever trust Boeing as much as they did before.

[@moritzdurholt7702]

i will never seat myself in a Chinese or Russian plane. Would be suicidal.

[@Giraffe69420]

yes

[@gamegennie1125]

Yes because they copied the outer design but don’t know the technology of the planes

[@maxant4285]

Well, go on 737 MAX then...

[@Giraffe69420]

@Nate Auch same bro

[@meauxjeaux431]

Well, if they perform as well as their submarines, and aircraft carriers, what's the problem ?

[@rautaandreea]

The title is clickbait. The video never explains why Boeing and Airbus won the race.

[@kinyorojohn4759]

Boeing and Airbus have made a big strides in commercial Aviation industry and to me they have won in that market and so to my views it will take time for other companies to reach them.

[@TransistorBased]

The brains in Spain worked mainly on the tail plane

[@Carfree-Cities]

might have mentioned the Convair 880 and 990...

[@whatever8282828]

I wish Lockheed was still interested!

[@unboxivity]

My dream is to become a pilot but I'm broke as hell 😂

[@apersunthathasaridiculousl1890]

Ride in me

[@alanjensen8243]

If you are american, you can join the airforce and get your flying license that way

[@unboxivity]

@@alanjensen8243 but I'm not so rip my dreams 😂🙏

[@aviation7479]

@@unboxivity if ur in Europe lufthansa give u free training but they take money off your salary when you become a pilot until you pay off the bill

[@unboxivity]

@@aviation7479 you have any social media to talk?

[@crashedtv846]

My favorite is both but my fav from Airbus is : A380 and A350 for Boeing is : 787 and 777

[@sethtan715]

Best video I have ever seen in this channel. Like it so much. Explained very well. 😀😀😀

[@farhatiqbal3089]

I've seen the BAE aircraft at Manchester Aviation Park in the green and white livery. It has a red cabin and a beautiful cockpit

[@peterkotara]

If you consider all variants of the DC 3 more than 16,000 were manufactured.

[@brassicaolaraceaolaracea1115]

some day I want to own a Cessna172 and fly the beautiful skies....

[@retro_wizard]

Anyone else perplexed by the BAe in the thumbnail?

[@gilbertfranklin1537]

There are many other aircraft that have been made and flown which have designs, performances, and technologies every bit as good as the two leaders, BUT Boeing and Airbus are the absolute Masters of Marketing and Sales... 🏆

[@elijaha773]

Last time I checked Avros weren't large planes.

[@TheFoxyFoxers]

McDonnell Douglas merging with Boeing created a missed opportunity for the latter.

[@Joaopc11]

How about SAAB?

[@squidward420]

Great Video! Where's Tupolev and Ilyushin though.

[@ethansaviation2672]

There not competition😂

[@abandonedchannel281]

@@ethansaviation2672 Were competition before the 70’s, Piedmont Airlines attempted to purchase the Yak 40 once.

[@ethansaviation2672]

@@abandonedchannel281 im talking about the mid sized and wide body aircrafts say anything about smaller jets

[@karlossargeant3872]

I watching this Video right now Awesome Video!!!!!!

[@SaturnCanuck]

Now that was a good video. Thanks for mentioning the totals of the DC-3 -- I feel vindicated.

[@stradivarioushardhiantz5179]

A220 & A321neo/LR/XLR and 787 & A350 would still dominate the future sky

[@finnleithomczyk5292]

Agree, although I think the Chinese and Russians have a possibility of entering the market.

[@94XJ]

Well, China could easily make their airlines go with a domestically built aircraft generating a lot of sales. It fits their economic playbook well.

[@lukassmith2688]

Is it just me or does the CR929 look familiar...

[@JohnnieHougaardNielsen]

Yeah, if the Comet had not had that metal fatigue issue, de Havilland would have had a fair chance of becoming the defining manufacturer of the early jet age, instead of Boeing taking the lead.

[@kenoliver8913]

Na, the 707 was a superior design in every way. Cheaper to build, far easier to maintain, longer range, more capacity. The only thing the Comet had going for it was a small lead in speed and more advanced engines, but it was not long before Pratt & Whitney caught up with Rolls Royce.

[@JohnnieHougaardNielsen]

You ignored the huge lead the Comet had over the 707, first flight 1949 vs 1957. With Boeing being much later and able to learn from the experiences with the Comet, it would've been a major letdown if the 707 only managed to be a small improvement. If de Havilland had seen the Comet being a success, they'd have gone on to improve on the design, instead of a long painful investigation and destroyed reputation.

[@razzielr8632]

One day I will try to be a pilot and fly one of the companies aircraft

[@Auri713Real]

It's aircraft not aircrafts

[@razzielr8632]

@@Auri713Real sorry I miss type

[@razzielr8632]

@@tomgoldrunbyabhinav9978 Thank you I will try my best

[@erikjohansson2703]

I will be pilot and destroy India and save Pakistan

[@mgsaviation9292]

@@erikjohansson2703 GRAPE

[@arvindjijiantony4882]

Russian civilian aircraft manufacturing has a storied history reaching back decades. They had some really successful aircrafts too. Why was nothing mentioned about this?

[@williammcgraw9779]

Because the aircraft were unsafe and nobody bought them !

[@avgeekshorts]

717 and a310 are the last planes ive learned from Boeing and Airbus 717: Infinite Flight a310: just searched it up

[@Flyingprussureizedtube]

A300?

[@robinbradsmith626]

i miss flying on the a300-600R it was really comfortable

[@mre6180]

i really Missed Fokker

[@natf6747]

Excluding the collapse of the CCP I would say China is most likely to threaten the market. The reason I say this is not because they have a better plane or anything it’s simply location and ownership. 1) China basically owns the Chinese aircraft manufacturer. 2) China basically owns all major Chinese airlines. 3) it is forecasted that by 2028 China will be the worlds largest aviation market. Putting all this together I would assume that China, excluding an exceptionally poor product, would stay in house when it comes to aircraft and thus lead to a major market being taken over by itself. This will be a major loss for both Boeing and Airbus and in itself lead to a large portion of the market being taken up by Chinese aircraft. Not to mention I would assume it would be another product in their belt and road initiative. I can see many developing countries, who are accepting Chinese help with infrastructure needs, well also turn to China to advance their aviation needs. China will probably offer rates that Boeing and airbus cannot meet but will then manipulate those rates to trap the purchasing company.

[@Peizxcv]

Most countries pick in house products especially aircrafts unless the foreign option is considerably better; it is not a Chinese only trait. Think how long it took Airbus to get American airlines to finally order Airbus even though A300, A320, and A330 are way better than Boeing's competition in the same class

[@FSHVTAGMMY]

China doesn't own all of the airlines, Hainan airlines is privately owned

[@alainmare8081]

You know for sure that Chinese are master to copy good foreign products. It will probably be the same for planes. You purchase Boeing or Airbus products you dismantles them copy all the parts and put a new name on it. Then your engineers are able to improve the design and produce a better product. As an example: railroad. They bought Japanese and French high speed trains and now they are running the best railroad network of the world. What’s the solution ? Probably, keeping RD in major sectors to still have advance on competitors.

[@Peizxcv]

@@alainmare8081 Everyone copies. Why do you think American spent so much resources stealing German and Soviet technology during WW2/Cold War and then grab as many scientists as possible after the war?

[@abandonedchannel281]

The Chinese are working it out, I think they should become somewhat successful, and they should work on electric and alternative fueled aircraft, in the future they can get a massive chunk of the aviation sector if they do.

[@ironmantrains]

I think there should be more localised manufacturers but too many manufacturers mean to many planes to chose from. For example for the short haul market there's the 737, A320, E-jet, A220, Comac 919 and the IR-21.

[@marneus]

CASA joined Airbus at the beginning, owning 4,2 % of the consortium.

[@simplymrklmYT]

Aviation is the love of my life. I still love my gf but i really love planes

[@Airplanecrashmaster]

A320 vs md-11 vs b737 vs emb175 vs crj1000

[@keju4777]

Cool video👍👍👍

[@IFHD350]

How can I become an aircraft manufaturar? Please make a video about this.

[@dave8599]

There also was the French Sud Aviation twin jet Caravelle

[@stevenholt1867]

Also the DC-9 and the A310.

[@JimmyJamesJ]

No body has a monopoly on good ideas, better designs or higher efficiency.

[@agimibraimi96]

The 929 literally is a 787.

[@panamericanworldairways5618]

nah the fuselage looks like the A350s fuselage but I do admit the nose looks a lot like the 787 nose

[@Zechariah340]

I think Russia and China might be able to compete since they might have alot of local clients or clients in the middle east, who might be able to work out some deal with them

[@greathornedowl3644]

Find it ironic that smoking has been banned from planes since the 1980s, yet within the last year I've flown a plane that had ashtrays in the armrest.

[@simonm1447]

Smoking during flight was still allowed in Europe around 2004, at least on some seats. There's still an ashtray in the toilet, but this is not because it would be allowed to smoke there, but to avoid people using the wastepaper basket for the cigarette and setting it on fire

[@sethtan715]

Nah. Airbus and Boeing started producing commercial aircraft earlier and they have a lot of planes. Comac and Irkut only have 1 commercial aircraft each. The C929 will probably have majority of orders from Chinese airlines I guess.

[@filledwithvariousknowledge1065]

It’s a copy of A350 and 787 without the efficiency (thus lower range) nor support network offered

[@grahambaker6664]

Both COMAC and United Aircraft Corporation (the consolidated Russian aircraft manufacturers) will struggle to get beyond their own borders due to the lack of support infrastructure and sanctions. Boeing should consider acquiring Antonov to get the AN158 as a 717 replacement to take on the A220-100 and to get the AN178 as a C27J competitor for its military division. Antonov could be used to manufacture a C17 NEO and to do freighter conversion work. The Antonov designs are good but lack ongoing support that Boeing could provide.

[@sethtan715]

@@filledwithvariousknowledge1065 Agreed 100%

[@sethtan715]

@@grahambaker6664 Yes

[@barrel6468]

the A350 in the thumbnail doesn’t have the black thing around the front windows, looks weird

[@aaronseet2738]

No mention of Sukhoi Superjet 100 * giggle

[@TheJacobbridges25]

China making airplanes scares me

[@morpheus1717]

China making anything scares me

[@a1v.r0o]

I like airplane

[@michaelosgood9876]

Russia & China v Airbus & Boeing? Not a prayer!!

[@Wongwanchungwongjumbo]

Boeing 777 -9X is the World 🌎 largest Twin Engines Aircraft.

[@hemalon2009]

It's high time that we create something different than a tube with wings.

[@yaysimonsays151]

I will make the wing with tubes

[@yaysimonsays151]

An uncanny amount of tubes The tubes... control

[@brookeintheair]

Ah gotta love modern business. All mergers and acquisitions

[@ConnorEllisMusic]

That new Russia-China Widebody looks awfully familiar...

[@MrKawasaurus]

i never would fly with an Chinese or Russian Airliner.

[@roguewave1060]

It's the MS21, not the MC21. The Russian "C" is like our "S." Example: "CCCP" in Russian means "SSSR" in the Latin alphabet. (the "P" is like the Greek letter "rho" which is an "R" in the Latin alphabet)

[@iSuom]

UAC (the creator of the MC 21) are branding it as MC 21 even in non Cyrillic markets. So it is the MC 21.

[@Jack_André_Salerno]

YOU FORGOT TO DO 717!

[@jayashripatil4697]

I love Boeing 747

[@jayashripatil4697]

❤️❤️❤️🤩🤩

[@itzfaroff456]

Same

[@kevinwelsh7490]

you didn't have any information about Soviet passenger jets. Is it Illyushin?

[@Wongwanchungwongjumbo]

I think Airbus won the Race as More Orders of Aircraft of its popular Fuel Efficient Airbus A350XWB-900/1000 and Smaller A220 regional Airliner.

[@marcuslim4450]

why didn't they mention the convair 880 990 990a

[@saismithanaik7885]

can you make a video on airbus a320 family

[@baileybitchess]

Airbus A380 : we will have loads of passengers! Boeing 747 : We will win other planes : uh.... ....

[@timothyseabrook1584]

the Boeing B747-100was launched in 1969 with orders from Pan Am The aircraft that was blown up.over lockerbie in Scotland was. number 103 the third Boeing B747:100 off the Production line

[@dhruvshandilya6761]

My sense of humor is so low that i laugh every time i say Boeing

[@osvald860]

Boeing

[@adamlee3772]

Well China and Russia may be trying to enter the market but I’ll never fly on aircraft made in those countries.

[@Memeplays]

Bombardier: makes C-series Airbus: “Our” plane

[@studioxxswe]

prob not your fault but I got an ad after 60 seconds of playback.

[@3man659]

China and Russia build a joint plane. Looks like a 787 Dreamliner...

[@VexifyGaming]

Hi

[@speedborb3324]

Hi

[@laracroft938]

Press 'F' for british commercial aviation.

[@FilipinoGopnikNahui]

Netherlands: KLM Philippines: PAL Everyone: *BRITISH AIRWAYS*

[@kadellbhagwansingh6308]

I personally think that Russia will do better than China because China doesn't have a great bond with many countries so it will be hard them to get there aircraft certified were as Russia also having this problem they have a greater change due to them not facing many hiccups in the process of getting there aircraft certified let me know what you think.

[@natf6747]

Maybe in the international stage, but the fact that most airlines in China are owned by the government and the aircraft creator is owned by the government. And China is expected to be the largest growing region for aircraft demands in the coming years. I think the Chinese company will do better simply because Chinese airlines will by the plane.

[@kadellbhagwansingh6308]

@@natf6747 I think so too but if big countries like America don't certify it they won't make much money on does jets unless if they fly them on regional routes that's where the Russian aircraft can step in

[@kzero1499]

I think Russia has more to win out of the deal in the short term, but China is probably targeting much more regional/national stuff anyway just to get started. I mean look at China's auto industry, they started by just straight up ripping off western automakers that in an hilarious, cookie-cutter fashion before delving into more original designs. I think you're right that China doesn't have great bonds, but just a few years ago I noticed a Chinese automaker discretely pop up in California after a number of years getting established in the manner they did. Doing the same here it seems. Copy/paste all day and nobody can really do much about it, and now Russia is getting in on that action.

[@natf6747]

@@kzero1499 I wouldn't say no one can do anything about it. Based on what I have heard this year has severely screwed China over. I have even heard that the CCPs beloved 3 gorges damn may potentially bust due to the heavy rains they have gotten. You can even watch a simulation of what would happen if it did. Also, they are in a very tight spot food-wise. Then on top of that, they are getting heavily sanctioned from all around the world for their humanitarian issues. And on top of that, they have made a claim on Russian owned province to their northeast and there is potentially a big feud there. But also, due to them stealing intellectual property many countries are sanctioning them. So something is happening about it.

[@Peizxcv]

I was going to make a comment refuting the nonsense you guys spewed one by one then I realized a few of you are Indian. Nevermind, continue to think China is on the verge of collapsing/is collapsing.

[@x4t3travis]

I’ve forgot but does the B727 still operate as a passenger jet? Like if yes comment if no

[@Homepage.]

The only “passenger jet” 727 is a private plane that is seldom used to transport max 13 people 2-3 times per year

[@LanesAviationYT]

What about a plane called a RJ-100 A bottle sized plane (Razor Jets)

[@consti_monsti24]

what is with the A330

[@tegansearle2489]

do a vidio on pan am

[@geerip1.099]

Where was the superjet 100

[@warrakrys]

I dont care about Boeingmor Airbus I just want my maddogs back

[@Kannitry]

This video became unbelievable as soon as he mentioned "HOLLAND" instead of The Netherlands, seems no fact checking has been done.

[@mirzaahmed6589]

Airbus is headquartered in Leiden, which is in the province of South Holland. In any case, it's a minor error and very common misconception, hardly something that would make the rest of the video "unbelievable". Stop being hyperbolic.

[@vermas4654]

Well, the MS21 likelihood to be successful has died by now...

[@futurepilot5287]

A350 fanboys: look at the curve in end of the wing :O B787 fanboys: look at the curve in the whole wing :O

[@stickynorth]

Big jet programs seem to be like superpowers or highlanders... There can only be one... Or least the big two like to think... I.e. Boeing-USA vs Airbus-EU... There is room for Chinese, Russian, Canadian and Brazilian airliners and soft power in the world... Just saying!

[@stickynorth]

And for the record I am Canadian and obviously fiercely proud of the C Series and wrathful of Boeing and its horrid allies in that trade dispute!

[@sportsMike87]

whenever China or Japan get into the plane making game it will cause waves

[@d3Rm0Nk]

With each Bombardiay something inseide me died

[@Luckyamor]

Airbus ❤️

[@elias618]

Ever

[@Utd_YT]

Airbus!!!

[@dave8599]

Boeing Stratocruiser, a big four prop piston plane was neat, double decker even! Then the Douglas big four prop piston planes up thru the DC 7 ruled until the jet age. The Lockheed Four prop piston Connie was one of the best of its type, super sleek design, Lockheed made the four turbo prop Electra. Douglas and Boeing didnt sell a four turbo prop.

[@kenoliver8913]

Back in the day they used to say "The ideal jetliner would be designed by Lockheed, manufactured by Boeing and marketed by McDonnell Douglas", each being the aspect those companies were believed to excel in.

[@eamonryan2198]

The Stratocruiser was a complete flop. The three bank radials were very prone to overheating and were unreliable in other ways. The design of the aircraft, a variation of the B29 bomber was wrong. It was the 707 that made Boeing as a civilian aircraft builder. Timing was important, it was first in the field.

[@kenoliver8913]

@@eamonryan2198 That's all true, though remember the Stratocruiser used the same engines as the very successful competition (the Constellation). Huge piston aero engines always have cooling problems; the B29 and B36 were similarly prone to engine fire from the same cause. But the 707 was simply a better plane than other early jetliners, on a host of grounds. Whatever Boeing's failures with the Stratocruiser the 707 was undeniably a brilliant piece of design.

[@eamonryan2198]

@@kenoliver8913 A veteran of the 1950s airline business told me that in those days it would have been unusual for the piston engined transatlantic airliners to land at the refuelling hub at Shannon with all four engines running. Yes, the 707 was a brilliant design, as evidenced by most large passenger aircraft to this day having a broadly similar layout. Just like Alec Issigonis and the mini.

[@TheGusMP]

Missing Lockheed planes

[@pocomirpur2199]

don't worry next competetor... russia chaina joint venture company...

[@chanukawickramasinghe]

in fact Chaina will buy one of the two largest companies. Like Geely took over Volvo !!!!

[@theairplanegeek]

Russia and China already have the capability to overtake Boeing or airbus, but Russian aircraft operators **ahem Aeroflot** are lacking in the training department and China just seems promising, if it increases range. The ARJ-21 is alright tho

[@skanda5047]

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