The best $150 light is not what you think

Shan compares some rifle lights in the $100-$150 range. The Olight Javelot Tac, the Streamlight Protac 2.0 and the Tacticon Battletorch V3. The three are surprisingly different! Which one would you put on your rifle?
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[@DrThunder88]

Excellent content, as usual! Not only is it produced with top notch testing gear, I appreciate you covering the gamut of price ranges.

[@WerkzHolsters]

Thanks for the feedback! And we have more rifle light videos coming!

[@steeltrident]

I hope the rifle light series continues and the Night stick lights are tested. Particularly the LGL-170

[@Kross8761]

If streamlight watches your content (they friggin SHOULD!) they need to release a light with the exact performance of the protac2 but with a reflector design that gives a better hotspot. They could easily push into the premium performance realm if they'd put a higher precedence on candela. Flood is still necessary, but it has the raw lumen output to be a solid contender across the board and not just in the "budget" realm if they'd improve the hotspot, it certainly has enough space in the head to fit a better reflector to boost the performance at distance.

[@lcusatis]

That would be a sick light. I hope they come out with a high candela light that is something other than the HP & HPL head shape.

[@RandyHarter]

Another great video. Keep up the awesome work!

[@WerkzHolsters]

Thanks much!

[@MrSteveb1]

Outstanding comparison, I have the Streamlight ProTac 2.0 handheld version and while it’s a large heavy light with a proprietary battery, it really puts out the light, like you stated it’s a flood light not a spot , I have several tactical lights and my favorite is my Cloud Defensive Duty, I think it strikes the best overall balance between lumens and candela.

[@trainwreck109]

I have that same stream light on my beretta 1301. Awesome light for a shotgun.

[@tiberiusvonwolf5520]

Excellent review as always,and I appreciate your real world usage opinions. This is why I keep asking these companies to make focusable lights for both handgun and rifle uses, that way we can have one light to do all

[@WerkzHolsters]

Glad you liked it! If you hear of anyone making a light with a focus ring, please let me know. Blessings!

[@dalestark3343]

Great review again guys! Not surprised by the results of this review at all.

[@WerkzHolsters]

Thanks for your feedback! I learn a few things for each of these reviews.

[@dalestark3343]

@@WerkzHolsters I only wish you guys would start doing some holsters with some kind of backing lick suede or possible some other soft material as Kydex or similar is too hard on my skin and leaves welts and red marks after just a few hours. As I have a light on all my firearms. Thanks!

[@Tacticaldynamicsforce]

Great video. Thanks.

[@WerkzHolsters]

You are most welcome!

[@hopewilliams6705]

I really wish this video would have come 2 weeks ago

[@juliomaldonado4028]

So what regret do you have? I have quite a few purchases I regret

[@WerkzHolsters]

Better late than never?

[@a.b.k1983]

Yeah. Just ordered the Tacticon last night. Saw this video today.

[@dennysphantom4714]

Tacticon sucks bad..

[@joelatkinson2080]

Another great video!!!

[@KennyRodgers930]

Awesome, didn't think the Streamlight would be that good lol I would love to see a Streamlights RM2 comparison

[@WerkzHolsters]

Thanks for the feedback! The ProTac 2.0 had a -lot- of light coming out the front. I was impressed.

[@chandlermiller8099]

I just picked up a job smart gun light at tractor supply for $32 gotta say im impressed

[@joshuabruce9920]

I wonder if the battery in the tacticon is holding it back a tad.

[@johnmiller8412]

Did olight have pistol pressing switch

[@dtroy15]

Next time you test rifle lights, check out the thrunite ratel at $50 with a tape switch. Thrunite's tw10 won your pistol light durability test. The ratel claims 1600 lumen and 25,000 candela.

[@Andrew_182]

I agree that a streamlight is the best budget light. But I think it’s the actually the protac HL-X Pro that takes the crown. Less lumens (1k) but a lot more candela (50k vs 17.7k of the 2.0). Plus you get the ability to run it off cr123s or the rechargeable battery interchangeably. And they an be found for around $100 (just the light and cr123s) up to $136 (rechargeable battery pack plus kit). I got one (cr123 plus mounting kit with switch) for $110 shipped. Can’t beat the value to performance at the under $150 price point imo.

[@Fury-161]

No BS, the best sub $150 rifle light i have ever seen or used is the Brynite XP-22 scorpion. Next level thinking by whoever designed that one.

[@jeremiahwilliams7725]

Night vision/IR filter question for you all: Is there a way to redshift the light (actually change the wavelength as opposed to simply filtering) coming from an LED? I have an IR filter/lens cover, but it hardly works with LED lights since LEDs emit very little light in the IR spectrum. The IR filter was originally designed to be used with incandescent lights since they produce quite a bit of light in the IR spectrum. If there is some barrier that can be placed between the LED and IR filter that actually produces considerable IR light then we could have a powerful white light/IR light that is cheaper than most IR weapon mounted lights on the market (at least ones with considerable throw). I found one light spectrum chart online that indicates LEP lights may produce a lot of IR light depending on the model (some LEPs like the olight valkyrie pro produce very little IR light). It's difficult to find light spectrum charts for each particular flashlight, so maybe someone with more experience with LEPs can shed some light (pun intended) on if they actually produce enough IR light to be used with night vision.

[@WerkzHolsters]

Just saw this. I don't have a great answer for you on filtering. I do know that Kyocera SLD has told me that they can produce a LEP that produces white light OR IR, switchable. That might get you where you want to go... if someone produces a light with that capability.

[@jeremiahwilliams7725]

@@WerkzHolsters I'll definitely check them out. Thank you!

[@rshinn8776]

Have you heard of goonbeam? I dont have one but its like a high candella streamlight. Wondering if its worth looking at.

[@LetsgoBrandon2023]

For the price that they are now I think it's worth looking at

[@CrpMag]

I would save my money and go with a Cloud Defense.

[@BattleshipSailorBB63]

Okay, this was interesting. I'm looking for Shotgun lights, and the Streamlight seems purpose built for that.

[@WerkzHolsters]

The Streamlight provides a ton of lumens!

[@casualobserver3145]

I put one on my HD shotgun. Within the confines of the house it’s definitely a wall of light. My surrounding property is barely 25 yds to the fence line so this light is just right for job.

[@simulatedzero]

I am the only Olight dealer in the area, I build a number of rifles with various components and Olights represent a good option for a novice looking for a rifle for home defense / range time that wont see classes or a hard training. It's durable, simple, and rechargeable. Nothing else is needed to get them up and going. I will never recommend them for professional or hard use. The lights themselves seem durable enough, but the ring system for the pressure pad *will* fail. Especially on any barricade shooting. Every single time. I highly recommend Streamlight for most hard use builds or patrol build. Anybody looking for higher tier goes to surefire, elzetta, etc. I do run the Warrior 3S for teaching classes as an experiment and it's tough as nails (I loan to students and it's been dropped/ thrown onto concrete dozens and dozens of times during transition drills or light ditching drills). I also teach with the Valkryie Pro pistol light (saves on batteries) and I would recommend both to civilians for home defense or conceal carry, but they missed hard with the rifle lights. Streamlight is the tougher / better product. 100% of the time. Keep the good shit rolling boys.

[@WerkzHolsters]

Thanks for the detailed feedback on how and where you use your gear! I read these comments and it's helpful for me to know what others have seen! Thanks & blessings!

[@nmhvactech5474]

I use Olight’s hand held lights everyday!! I’ve given them out to all of my family and friends. Everyone loves them. Out of the over 150 lights I’ve given out or use, only 2 have quit working. I’ve never seen or had one “blowup” as people claim. As for the there weapon lights, again I use or have given people who use their pistol lights without issues. The Odin has been good for me. The only issue I have is the tape switch sucks, I don’t use it, but hen again I think the Streamlights tape switch’s suck too. I have three Streamlights, but hardly use them as they are too big, get hot super quickly, and the cr123 batteries die quickly. If you want a serious duty / Hard use weapon light, go premium and skip all of the budget lights. I prefer as Arisaka build or Cloud Rein 3.

[@Highgear145]

​@@nmhvactech5474No one has seen an Olight blow up it's just that so many people have latched on to one story that happened 10 years ago and people feel the need to follow along without thinking for themselves

[@DoSe420]

​@@Highgear145I don't know the story, but if the light uses a lithium battery. It's easy to turn a metal tube into a pipe bomb, by simply having a rip in the plastic on the battery. Venting batteries or "explosions" were common stories with vaping early on for the same reason.

[@ethancox5476]

Had the olight odin and odin mini rifle lights. They're good lights and took a lot of abuse. Still working just fine. Also have several streamlight hlx lights and night stick lights. Great video as always

[@landenx]

I love my Werkz holster 🇺🇸

[@WerkzHolsters]

Thanks for the encouraging feedback!

[@ttss5726]

I’ll take a PD 36 hour pro with Phoenix’s lock mount which is just genius and I believe that’s 06

[@RTTGunsGear]

Tacticon does make pretty low low quality stuff. Across the board with them. Even for being "budget." As bad as Olight is at basically everything, I think I'd take the Olight over the Tacticon. I honestly feel dirty after typing that...ugh. I do wish you would have chosen the 1000lmn Protac HLX from Streamlight to run against these guys because it's a better weapon light than the 2.0. Even though the Strramlight did come out on top.

[@WerkzHolsters]

Matt, thanks for the feedback! Yeah, we have many more lights we could have tested. It was honestly somewhat arbitrary on which ones. We selected the 2.0 from Streamlight because it was a recent release that we didn't have data on.

[@Highgear145]

Explain what makes the Olight bad at everything

[@RTTGunsGear]

@Highgear145 Honestly, a simple comparison of spec sheets would explain it. When you compare what would be "equal" lights... meaning similar price points, similar lumen output.. Olight lacks in build quality, candela, operation, max output longevity, and options. One example of this is the Streamlight TLR1-HL compared to the Olight PL Pro Valkyrie. The Valkyrie claims 1500 lumen but those lumen drop by half in the first couple minutes of use. Famously weak recoil lugs. Lower IPX rating. Shorter overall run time. Isn't programmable, like the Streamlight...and so on. This is one of many examples.

[@user-ng4en8fx8r]

Problem is you can't get the Streamlight with the tape switch and all the shit to mount it for 150; unsure how much OLights mount kit runs. Both the OLight and Streamlight are using batteries that aren't nearly as common to find as an 18650.

[@LetsgoBrandon2023]

You can get the protac hlx which is 1000 lumens and 27,600 candela from trex arms for $140

[@codeedgaming107]

The tacticon light is so good for price to performance and what you get in the package, the 2 mounts, tail switch and battery just for the price of a say like a sure fire light with all the frills

[@GoodVibesOnly1914]

Anyone have a reccomendation for the lowest ammount of flood? Tightest beam out there?

[@224rebels]

Tacticon definitely underperforming in these tests. But it is only $75 with 50% off sale that they frequently run.

[@DinnerForkTongue]

That sounds like it's a US$75 rifle light being sold for 150.

[@Brian10962001]

Why no Thrunite?

[@urjnlegend]

Amazing video, whete tf has this channel been

[@webrootask]

Not a bad price for the protac 2.0 but... Why is no one talking about the 25-30$ battery thats proprietary to just this light...

[@Beamgoon]

🔦👑

[@ThenewguyYT]

Ive ran Olight on my handgun for a while due to them being the only compoany i could find with are chargeable laser/light combo, so when it came to my AR build i was looking at the streamlights and ended up settling with a Olight Odin which i caught on sale for $110 but originally $160. 2000 lumen and 300 meter throw

[@Highgear145]

I have that Olight Javalot Tac needless to say I'm going to buy another one

[@albertptran]

Wonder how well my $33 Amazon scout light would perform

[@WerkzHolsters]

Perhaps similar to the scout clone in this test?

[@albertptran]

@@WerkzHolsters probably yea

[@kurtnufferjr7017]

Only problem with Olight is the proprietary batteries and the lack of being able to uae cr123 lithiums. Rechargeable batteries drain over time and a light on a rifle will sit for awhile until you actually need it. Food for thought why higher ender lights moslty use cr123

[@rc54]

I prefer the Olight Oden Mini to the Javelot. I'd love to see how that fits this mix against the Streamlight.

[@ryanmccarthy2693]

Would make sense to test that instead of the Javelot. The javelot is specifically for long distance and isn’t supposed to be a floor light. These in the test aren’t really apples to apples as they’re intended for different things. I have some stream lights and olights. The Odin would be comparable to the streamlight in the video. Javelots intent is long distance.

[@nickrussett259]

Cal Ripken!

[@umbraviventem]

While I don't find the results all that surprising, i find the final preference surprising. So you would rather pick the more obvious "look at me i am over here" light just because it makes it just as easy for you to see someone at 300 yrds as it is for them to see you? Since we aren't discussing IR lights, I would hands down go with the battletorch simply because it has a much lower light profile at a farther range. You should not be using a light for engagements beyond 30-50 yrds, if you are then you are dying long before you are able to put rounds on your target. A light that has a lower candela and even lower flooding at longer distances makes distortion easier, meaning it is harder to pinpoint where you (the person with the light) are than with a light that has much higher candela or flooding. I was on board with the streamlight when you showed how easily it lit up that room (which is what you want from a rifle light) but when it pretty much lit up the range just as well, that killed it for me simply because the light will get me killed.

[@danclas5983]

I think I'll just stick with my Streamlight 1000 HL-X.

[@danielvalencia6582]

The olight odin may have been more in line with the streamlight flood instead of the javelot

[@chevrofreak]

Or perhaps the Warrior X3. Tons of throw with tremendous flood.

[@WerkzHolsters]

So many Olights, so little time! Perhaps an Olight rifle light comparison sometime...

[@nmhvactech5474]

I use Olight’s hand held lights everyday!! I’ve given them out to all of my family and friends. Everyone loves them. Out of the over 150 lights I’ve given out or use, only 2 have quit working. I’ve never seen or had one “blowup” as people claim. As for the there weapon lights, again I use or have given people who use their pistol lights without issues. The Odin has been good for me. The only issue I have is the tape switch sucks, I don’t use it, but hen again I think the Streamlights tape switch’s suck too. I have three Streamlights, but hardly use them as they are too big, get hot super quickly, and the cr123 batteries die quickly. If you want a serious duty / Hard use weapon light, go premium and skip all of the budget lights. I prefer as Arisaka build or Cloud Rein 3.

[@sleigh4019]

My Odin mini has a good hot spot also . works well .. The tacticon is great for 60$ now and around the house is great ..

[@MexicanOutlaw32]

I’m having a great experience with my tacticon battletorch v4 & for the price of $75-$80 with there discounts it’s a great choice over does high priced lights

[@DinnerForkTongue]

"just as good"

[@keithbland9023]

ugh... I hate flashlights with rechargeable batteries. I don't like the idea of not being able to replace the batteries out in the field.

[@alexshikin5093]

These guys talk a lot about olight lights but I can't find any holsters for them on their site.

[@WerkzHolsters]

werkz.com/olight-holsters/

[@ivancorey7389]

For $40 you can buy an arisaka.

[@yodo6414]

0pight stopped charging after a few months, crap

[@billybob-gb6ol]

Idk man seems a little unfair to use the olight literally specifically ment to throw as far as possible i might not be the Uber high speed god if the range but at the very least i can read

[@joshmajor8662]

The Olight is NOT the way to go!! Lol unless your gonna switch the activators and start watching the battery output drop after first charge. Streamlight is definitely the winner 👍

[@davidoftheforest3822]

my boi Risky Chrisky says Olights tend to explode

[@NavySooner]

I’m not a huge Olight fan but I think y’all misrepresented it. It’s made for long distance throw for long distance shooting. It’s a niche light.

[@THEJake829]

The funny thing is in Tacticon"s video marketing their light they compare it to a Surefire, claiming it's effectively as good as the Surefire for like 1/5 the cost. Yet it's so lack-luster that it's outdone by basically everyone.

[@stephanarizona9094]

Streamlight is worlds better than Olight!

[@Highgear145]

Not in my opinion I prefer Olight over Streamlight any day

[@joshdennis8841]

@@Highgear145 are you endorsed or an affiliate for Olight? In my personal experience my streamlight s have been night and day better than my Olights. I jumped on the 2019 bandwagon real hard with Olight but I won’t do that with them ever again after I’ve had a couple fail to charge and fail to work with me.

[@leifhoklin2681]

@@Highgear145I’d sure like to know why you prefer Olight over Streamlight. If you wouldn’t mind giving your reasons and experience level with both products, I’d appreciate it. Thanks.

[@KristofferEngstrom]

Exactly what is it with Olight that you dont like over lets say Streamlight? I can not avoid to feel that "everyone" that has opinions on either light, either has an affiliation with either of them, or they just copy what other "fast speed operators" claim. Fact is, when you actually find someone on yt that IS a retired navy seal or spec op, they seem to like both Olight and lets say vortex cheap affordable red dots, but when "super fast speed ops" claim that "I do not like it because you can not throw it under a tank, or "I do not like rechargable batteries" it gets kind of rediculous imho.

[@sleigh4019]

I own all 3 and my olights my favorite the stream lights big and heavy .. I have to say when those tacticons are great at 60-70$ ..if its 3rd gun they work ok

[@effu9375]

FENIX

[@bikeracerdude]

Fenix- They're just another 100 percent Chinese company that makes lights, like Olight..

[@JohnnyUtah87]

"The best $150 light is not what you think", followed by completely predictable results.

[@ttss5726]

I find it funny how you KZbinrs usually go for the most expensive name brand and then you call it the low end flashlight, and you picked the light of all things. You guys are clearly not paying attention to a lot of things, especially when it comes to Phoenix who is hands-down, better than all like buy a huge margin.

[@user-yp9zy1yc2n]

I got a question how come maglite never made more than 1000 lumen lights are they really that far behind the flashlight world ?

[@armenchuck]

Yes

[@bjornegan6421]

Malkoff makes drop ins for maglites that help out.

[@user-yp9zy1yc2n]

@@bjornegan6421 They should step their game up in the flashlight world it's 2023 already.