The Best 2 Martial Arts for Self Defense

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[@momoswandelndesschloss4047]

Judo and boxing❤ the best combo if you got time. There you learn all the angles you need

[@aasserelzoghby6781]

Judo and kick boxing is better because of kicks but boxing is great 2

[@momoswandelndesschloss4047]

@@aasserelzoghby6781 wont argue that. But look into the history of boxers in kickboxing... boxing is just a high level art, only wrestling/judo is more important

[@georgechristiansen6785]

@@aasserelzoghby6781 Kicking above the waist is a very very bad idea in self defense. Knees and low kicks are very helpful, but underplayed in kick boxing.

[@watamutha]

@@aasserelzoghby6781 I don't think I've ever used a kick in a self defense scenario.

[@baksacs3869]

So u mean mma 😀

[@sifublack192]

I agree with you 100%! Boxing and Wrestling work the best in self defense!

[@bobbysmitty1628]

As a former folkstyle wrestler who has wrestled against bjj guys and judokas, I prefer the stand up grappling of judo for SD. I feel the upright posture favors street fights and confrontations more. If you see an opening and change levels for the double then go for it. But with concrete, knees, and potentially getting hit in the back of the head, I would rather use the grip fighting and off balancing of judo in a scuffle. People reach out, shove and grab in street fights. Boxing along with that for protecting your face, situational awareness, and to read body language quickly.

[@bobbysmitty1628]

@Marquis Ballard Good points.

[@watamutha]

Yeah I'd agree, the posture of a judoka is like a rock.

[@anart1st256]

ye i mostly agree, Judo is probaly best for SD, cause of how good throws are on HARD concrete. Plus boxing is good because You learn it a lot faster then muay thai and Hands matter the most in a SD situation. I mean you could go for a outside step knee tap, even better if you can reach for ankle(while keeping collar tie for off balance). you dont need to really scrape or hit your knee on hard ground compared if you did Heel,toe,knee. PERSONALLY THE 100 METER DASH would be my choice🏃‍♂

[@OGFITNESS]

Thats the thing w freestyle wrestling, posture is bent, and they follow guys to the ground and thats not where you wanna be in a SD situation. Greco though is super interesting but still they follow to ground, mind you if they bring you to the ground via suplex you’re kinda screwed😂

[@RGTomoenage11]

Boxing because a fight doesn’t start grabbing. Judo because the fight may hit the clinch. By the way, kyokushin karate has a great mix of karate and judo throws but no face strikes.... but must Thai has strokes and throws. People are less likely to stay in boxing and Thai boxing though.

[@TJ-ko6fn]

I've been telling ppl this for over a decade...all you need is judo and boxing...I respect all other forms of martial arts;however, these two arts is the MOST practical in a street self defense scenario.

[@TK-fc8rh]

Can u further explain ur reasoning on this? I am boxer looking to find a grappling style that compliments my style the best. I’ve always been told Judo takes the longest to learn when it comes to effectively use the techniques in a real life or tournament situation.

[@watamutha]

@@TK-fc8rh Because when you get grabbed, you're still comfortable and know what to do.

[@Jordanthecool7]

@@TK-fc8rh Judo is good cause you’re still in upright posture , most throws can be done without following the person to the ground , if you do end up on the ground you still learn how to defend yourself from there , you learn how to defend against being taken down, and you also learn things like break falls, which is useful for if you fall during a fight so you don’t get hurt as badly

[@Liam1991]

Whatever system you learn, it should include the following, •De-escalating a potential attack •Ambush attacks •Multiple attackers •Defending against weapons •If it's legal in your country, learning to use weapons •Both the pre and post fight •Scenario training •What are the laws and reasonable force in your country •How to avoid a fight, and being aware of your surroundings •Pressure testing •Training in different environments •Spiring, both standing and on the ground I've learned these principles from training with Krav Maga Global. The head of KMG UK (Jon Bullock) introduced us to Rory Miller, which some of his methods is part of our training. He has even been teaching seminars every year. I've come along way from where I was. I started off with Jujitsu (Japanese jiu jitsu just in case you get confused), Kickboxing, Goju Karate, Judo, Taiho Jitsu, and now Krav Maga. Krav Maga seems to be the system that's gives me a proper understanding with self defense... I remember once I asked my Kickboxing instructor how to get out of a headlock. She didn't know what to say, as we all know, Kickboxing only teaches sparring. Also to point out, sparring only makes up a small percentage of your self-defence!

[@ramondiaz2851]

Man,you got cuts like Bruce in Enter the Dragon 🐉 !

[@OGFITNESS]

Thx man!

[@SINdaBlock411]

problem with wrestling is that compared to judo and jiu-jitsu, it's much harder to find, at least so I've heard

[@OGFITNESS]

I think in the US its easier because its in the high school programs, in mtl where im from, not that many.

[@Jordanthecool7]

@@OGFITNESSwhere I’m from, it’s hard to find judo for adults, even wrestling clubs outside of schools that I looked at was only for kids . That’s one of the reasons why I signed up for judo instead , cause I couldn’t find any wrestling and wanted to do something similar to it.

[@Agtren]

Good stuff, friend. Boxing and Wrestling make a powerful combo for a real scrapper. I spent about twelve years dabbling in various arts. Tried a lot of different styles: BJJ, Judo, Wrestling, Boxing, Kung Fu (San Da). BJJ has always been my main focus and I even earned a Blue Belt in the Gi. Now though, I want to make the transition to fighting MMA, which is why I enrolled in Boxing and Muay Thai. I just hope my takedowns from the clinch and my punching technique help my Muay Thai. I wonder how long it will take for me to get very good. I also hope science and medicine overcomes the Corona virus.

[@jashardwallington]

There will be some overlap with sanda and muay thai doesnt sanda have some grappling

[@Agtren]

@@jashardwallington Sanda does have some grappling. You can watch Cung Le, a great san da master, but he learned his throws in wrestling class, lol.

[@Muslim_qui_doute]

I am in a Judo school my partner and I just do the old good judo with leg grabs and a lot of ne waza when the teacher isn't around because he thinks that it is bad for compition, and I must say a good judo foundation will make up a good wrestling foundation

[@9344music5]

Should have seen that coming: Boxing. It takes your fists to someone's head and face right away. I wonder though about wrestling. How often do street fights go to the ground? I have seen where they do, so maybe that's why. If you have no ground game, then your boxing skills fail you when you are taken down. Great advice! Boxing. Thank You

[@OGFITNESS]

pretty often unless someone gets knock out cold.

[@aliasalias9768]

What are your thoughts on Krav Maga for self defense is it good without vulnerable targets

[@ramondiaz2851]

I agree 👍 100%%%%.

[@jopalo31675]

Boxing and wrestling... that’s the truth. The most bang for your time. I know some old timers who still spar and who still get their mat time in a wrestling club. I believe it was Joe Louis who knock out an arm robber at his prime old age of 80.

[@OGFITNESS]

man thats awesome, the advances in lifespan and healthspan are gonna be insane in the next 50 or years, i'll do my best to stay alive so i can benefit, a crazy goal i have is to live till 200, i'll make a video reagarding this. You'll see im not talking pure crazyness. Thx for the support. Osu!

[@georgechristiansen6785]

Dirty boxing and gi-less judo would be my go to. Wrestling takedowns require more physical prowess than judo and the damage result is higher if you fail.

[@dylan.-6527]

Fair, so. Muay Thai and Greco roman wrestling.

[@georgechristiansen6785]

@@dylan.-6527 If you couldn't find Dirty boxing and gi-less judo.

[@Bushidoka89]

When you say "brutish", it reminds me of beginning from more gross motor skills vs. fine motor skills. I think both boxing and wrestling begin from more gross motor movements and move into the fine motor skills later. Other martial arts often mix the two right away. As you say, it takes more time to learn. Also--it is worth noting that in a self defense situation, fine motor skills often go out the window (especially in the case of real aggressive violence: a fast, close, unexpected assault). I agree with your assessment 100 %. It also depends on the situation--a police officer working a beat may also have slightly different needs than a SWAT team or a corrections officer in a prison.

[@OGFITNESS]

i like the way you just explained that, gross vs fine motor skills. makes perfect sense, when i started wrestling it was all gross, then as i got better i realized the fine motor skills in high level guys and how it can actually very refined even within the gross motor skills itself. Amazing. And yeah, id have to agree there, the fine motor skills are out the window when real shit hits the fan. Hey thanks for watching brother, much appreciated.

[@Bushidoka89]

@@OGFITNESS Thanks a lot bro. As someone currently living in China who frequently travels, it's refreshing to hear about your experiences and insight. If you have a chance, might I suggest checking out Rory Miller's work (Meditations on Violence / Facing Violence)? I'd be interested to hear your take on it. Thanks for the great content! Keep it up!

[@OGFITNESS]

@@Bushidoka89hey bro, be safe over there in china, thanks for watching and for the support. I check out him out on youtube, interesting, he seems legit, ill watch some more vids when i got time and as l learn more on violence in combat/self defense ill make a video on what i think .

[@OtomoTenzi]

@@OGFITNESS What is your crass, and brutally honest opinion on the controversial mixture of Muay Thai + Peek-A-Boo + Judo combined? Would such a combination of combat styles be considered LETHAL???

[@sepidedam1151]

It is obvious that Judo plus Bowing is the best self defense !

[@OGFITNESS]

Oh you mean boxing, for a sec there i thought you were making a joke about bowing😂, Punch punch clinch and throw, if done properly that can end most fights in da streetz! Hehehe

[@benpurcell591]

Old video but you know what judo is missing? Body lock/clinch takedowns. Its all collar sleeve or variations. At least in bjj you will learn basic clinch/body lock throws (e.g. double unders and bodyfold for example).

[@OGFITNESS]

Agree, thats why cross training is needed imho

[@chrisboyer7178]

I'd say this is true. Although I'm a kick boxer who's attempting judo, so I got my striking and grappling styles. i really need to train my upper triangle though, my boxing sucks. More more more.

[@OGFITNESS]

Upper triangle?🤔, are you referring to where to look on the upper body by imagining a triangle from shoulder to shoulder as the base and the tip tat the navel?

[@chrisboyer7178]

@@OGFITNESS I guess I mean the shoulders and head I heard a boxer say it ounce I don’t know

[@OGFITNESS]

@@chrisboyer7178 makes sense for boxing, for kickboxing/muay thai i think the triangle i describe works better since you have to be aware of knees and kicks coming your way

[@chrisboyer7178]

@@OGFITNESS tru tru

[@Docinaplane]

"Take the bully for a ride." HaHa!!! Love the video!! When Ben Askren was at his best, he would say, "I could make him my girlfriend." lol

[@alexliu5636]

Well what do you think of a form of wrestling called Shuai Jiao ?

[@OGFITNESS]

ill have to look it up brother, but one thing i do know is that all grappling arts have similarities, depends on the rules and how they practice.

[@OGFITNESS]

similar but diffenrent because of the uniform, ill make a vid. thx for watching brother!

[@1032ramos]

I would say catch wrestling and boxing. Normal wrestling, no submissions hence you are just pinning someone. You need to finish match

[@OGFITNESS]

Catch wrestling, hmm... wouldnt have thought of that, but is catch wrestling hard to find in the states?

[@1032ramos]

@@OGFITNESS very hard to find in the state, I would say it's the no gi cousin of Judo. I think 3 months in judo would be affecting against a untrained bully. The chokes and trips are not that difficult to learn.

[@OGFITNESS]

@@1032ramos thats true, thats what i thought regarding finding a catch wrestling club, it aint that common. 3 months of judo, hmm... it would depend on your natural athelitsm, ive seen guys in 3 months beats the shit out of guys who've been practicing judo for like 6 months, and vice versa. Its always about the artist and not the art itself so to speak, and the coach.

[@1032ramos]

@@OGFITNESS if you ever come across catch it's awesome too learn. Great leg locks and submissions. It's also about how keen you are too learn and how much you tude you watch and practice. Lol

[@OGFITNESS]

​@@1032ramos bro im a martial artist, grappling just so happens to be my focus, i love fighting and i believe in what bruce lee said: " i fear not the man who practiced a thousand kicks, but rather the man who pracrticed one kick a thousand times" I would love to have the time to practice all forms of grappling and striking. With your support i will. Osu!! im obsessed with martial arts.

[@xxxzzz9654]

I'm 15 years old I already do muay thai so clinch is important anyways should I start bjj or judo (for self defence purposes not for competition). Or wrestling?

[@momoswandelndesschloss4047]

Xxx Zzz muay thai is relativly static, as well as bjj. I Would recommend you something more dynamic. Therefor judo or wrestling. A muy thai posture is also relative straight. Like judo. Therefor judo! But this is not so important. The main thing is that your teacher is good and you have fun!

[@xxxzzz9654]

@@momoswandelndesschloss4047 yeah thanks, my muay thai teacher did judo and wrestling and he's fine with cross training so he told me start with judo then move to wrestling and if I can finally bjj, anyways thanks again your response helped a lot.

[@momoswandelndesschloss4047]

Xxx Zzz if your teacher ever forbids you crosstraining in general, just go away. Its a realy bad sign. But your teacher sounds good

[@OGFITNESS]

id say judo but muay thai and bjj are a classic combo, alot of brazilian mma fighters do exactly that as their main 2 arts.

[@momoswandelndesschloss4047]

O.G. FITNESS i love this combining martial arts stuff. You can argue with cultur like you did. If i would live in the usa with hundreds of thousands of hidden wrestling grandmasters, i would consider wrestling. You also can argue with biology: a reason for mcgregor beeing such a good counter boxer are his very long arms. Tony ferguson has giant hands, makes him able to hold the opponents arms and pound from guard. I dont know what i love more fighting or thinking about it...

[@pendragonfilm]

Gun fu and big knife fighting

[@OGFITNESS]

Hahaha

[@pendragonfilm]

@@OGFITNESS I know , guns self explanatory and anyone watching a cold steel natchez bowie realise you could teach a woman just the snap cut and 5 minutes later she could be lopping off body parts .

[@JamesDracoCFH]

Muay Thai Judo and Pekiti Tersia

[@monchichipower6334]

There’s no gyms that teach wrestling It’s mainly bjj gyms and they may incorporate some wrestling . They just call it no gi bjj

[@monchichipower6334]

3 months boxing they still won’t let you spar Still doing pad work . I done boxing for approx 3 months and I don’t think I can’t do much Just hitting pads and combos.

[@danielmulholland5869]

That just means you suck so far. Keep improving and they'll let you spar

[@1032ramos]

Be honest mate, you want to show your tone sculptured body to the ladies?))

[@OGFITNESS]

Lol, yeah im in fitness space also, im also a personal trainer, but honestly not sure theres that many ladies watching a vid on martial arts lol.

[@bobbysmitty1628]

I think the term you were looking for is "the grind" in wrestling when you were describing it as "brutish", and "barbaric"?? Wrestlers are commonly taught to commit to shots, and "grind" for the finish, it's a mentality.

[@michaelenns8872]

Freestyle wrestling, not greeco roman wrestling. Greeco is very similar to Judo.

[@pelejahosoba5280]

I disagree with u,osoto gari is more easier and natural to do than double legs, and osoto can kill,and with a little tip even a baby would get it right, and judo is still worth the wait and a killer,but nice video a lot of facts

[@OGFITNESS]

Man for some reason i always had a harder time with osoto then a double leg, but i'm been able to land jumping osoto a few times in randori before this quarantine. Hmmm.... actually when think about it, when i started judo, everyone at the club was a brown or black belt so maybe thats why i hard such a hard time until now. Yeah i definitely think thats part of it. But i do agree with you that osoto is much more dangerous then a double leg. Thx for watching and for the support brother!

[@pelejahosoba5280]

@@OGFITNESS To hit osoto perfectly, Right handed fighters should move to the left side in a circular motion, then step into the space of his opponents with d left foot in order to evade and occupy his distance, then fire down with the right foot ,then u have killed ur opponent already, check Travis Stevens breakdown for osoto gari

[@momoswandelndesschloss4047]

Wtf? It takes 10 min to learn a osoto. But i know what you mean! Judo takes more time to master than wrestling, because its more technical. BUT wrestling depends more on your physical abilities. Judo is better for overcoming physical differences

[@OGFITNESS]

lol, true, doesnt take all that long to learn osoto, but then trying to pull it off on another judoka is kinda a bitch, unless ur really good or ur opponent sucks lol

[@aasserelzoghby6781]

@@OGFITNESS yeah O soto gari with resistance and an opponent with a straight arm is the worst

[@momoswandelndesschloss4047]

You Are fuckin 41?! Looking good men! You give me hope and shame at the same time😅

[@seamusnaughton8217]

100nper cent argee legs take to long balance chanber leg subcribef to your cannel

[@SINdaBlock411]

"Japanese Jiu Jitsu" ... no such thing, it's called jutaijutsu

[@anti_Hype_334]

boxing and wrestling, it's been this way ever since the stone age, no amount of BS Gracie propaganda will ever change that ... judo and sambo mix well with boxing as well

[@OGFITNESS]

Gotta make a vid on the weaknesses of bjj