The BEST Affordable Alt-Rock Tube Amp I've EVER Played!

This Is the Marshall Origin 50. I was looking for an affordable tube amp that could pretty much do it all! In my opinion this is it. In this video we'll dive in to this awesome amp.
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[@samthomas1945]

Been looking at the combo recently and this has really sold me on it. That last tone with the JM into the dimed low setting is literally everything im looking for in a rhythm tone. Keep it up man, incredible work as always

[@Ukuleleal]

I have the Origin 20. Great amp. Love it. Can't understand why so many people seem to not like them. Horses for courses I suppose. 🙏

[@m-funkshun]

The paint brush, paint, and canvas analogy is spot-on. Cheers!

[@thesethingsmakenoises]

Thank you!

[@al271987]

I’m perfectly content with my Quilter Aviator Cub and some pedals (some of my favorite guitarists worked with solid state amps, I’m convinced I don’t need tubes to get a good sound), but nice video all the same. What I really came here to say is that since getting into your channel, I’ve checked out October Drift and I absolutely love what I’ve heard! What a great sound, and lots of great songs! Thanks for contributing to some great music.

[@thesethingsmakenoises]

Sounds great! I mean like I said you can get some awesome sounds from the amp sim even so you’re definitely right! Thanks so much, that’s really kind! Glad you’re liking the tunes.

[@user-qk2oz8ch6v]

Great Videos! I always love to plug my jaguar in a Marshall Amp: the warm clean tone of those amps, I think, blends really well with the jangly tone of the jag. Definitely checking this newsletter!

[@thesethingsmakenoises]

Yeah the jangly guitars seem to cut through them nicely!

[@blpaul3]

Monthly newsletter? BRILLIANT!! Signed up! Cheers!

[@thesethingsmakenoises]

Thank you!

[@michelvondenhoff9673]

Fun video as always. Well the amp can be the most significant gear in the sound just as a pedal can be. There is always a what-ever-works-for-you kinda element. Just enjoy the gear you have and dream about future gear 😊

[@thesethingsmakenoises]

Exactly!

[@PJmichelle]

I'm surprised and pleased to hear this! I remember when the Origin series came out, it seemed to me like every one kept talking about how bad they are so I never bothered to check them out. Now I'm interested to try one of them!

[@thesethingsmakenoises]

I think it’s awesome! The key for me is getting that tilt dial right.

[@KyleSG88]

That's because they are kinda bad lol. Affordable yes but when your a tech and you actually see how garbage the parts are that they use in you don't recommend them.

[@Commander.c0ck]

guitar players when a marshall amp isnt a plexi or jcm 800/900@@KyleSG88

[@thesethingsmakenoises]

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[@PressuredSpeechBand]

Everyone seems to be buying these cause all the websites have them backordered. Can't wait to receive mine!

[@StueyDoo]

I have the Origin 20 and I love it. As you say, GREAT pedal platform. I've not gigged with it, as I have a Victory BD-1 lunchbox head for ease of use and carting around. But might try it out soon

[@thesethingsmakenoises]

Yeah they’re awesome aren’t they. Heard good stuff about the victory amps.

[@malcolmgordon2988]

Great video and definitely an amp I’d be interested in myself! I think the Marshall ‘clean’ tone is so underrated… the early JTM era amps got it right first time in my opinion! I’m actually not a big fan of the more ‘modern’ high gain Marshalls

[@thesethingsmakenoises]

Yeah with you on that! I think it’s the pushed mids that make them sound so cool!

[@GregBonks]

I highly recommend Vox AC15s as well, they're small enough to be played as a bedroom amp, but they get pretty loud as well (if it's not loud enough an AC30 works fine as well). The cleans are perfect, and they distort perfectly. I agree that the best amps are the ones that have the fewest knobs possible. A lot of people say that Vox amps don't take pedals well, and they're dead wrong. They're about the same price as a Origin head as well, I will say the Marshall heads are incredible though.

[@tonedowne]

You are bang on. I would take an AC15 over an Origin in a heartbeat. They are amazing for fuzz pedals and playing one on stage is a very 3D kind of experience. They stay crisp when you push them, unlike the Origin which has a muddy kind of break up.

[@thesethingsmakenoises]

Hey! I played a show in Paris in March and used one on stage and I’ve gotta say I agree with you. Great sounding amp!

[@masterchef3019]

My fender 65 deluxe reverb has been my go to for any genre I play(ranging from Jazz to Shoegaze). Peavey also has the Delta Blues and the Classic series that are pretty cheap, give nice cleans all the way to Bluesy grit. I’m currently have a tweed amp being built for me that has the tweed sound with high headroom for pedals. It really is just about what you can get your hands on

[@thesethingsmakenoises]

Sounds awesome mate! I love the look of those peaveys, they’re epic.

[@bankirt8498]

before people start saying "the tone is in the fingers", tell me the last time you heard someone get reverse reverb out of their fingers. i love the Marshall origins, and while technique is important, so is what let's everyone hear your practice. thanks for having the best of both worlds.

[@thesethingsmakenoises]

Thanks so much! Yeah, I hope it came across in the bit where I played the driven chords, I literally wrote that there and then (I know it’s not complicated haha) but something about how it sounded playing next to it gave me the inspiration to play in that way. So like you say you can definitely get the best of both worlds.

[@malcolmgordon2988]

Tone is very definitely in the fingers… as evidenced by the 20+ pedals I own (over half of which fall in the OD/dist/fuzz category)… er…

[@luisr.c7099]

I used the 20 watt version all over my first album with my band the tones on that album are amazing a Origin 20 into a 2x12 cab with v30s with a ds1 pushing it is amazing

[@thesethingsmakenoises]

They’re awesome aren’t they!

[@briantoftegaard191]

Pick a combo version up last summer for around 300 £ and it was love at first sight. Change the tubes because I had a little rattling on low notes, but other than that it works like a champ. It’s a beast at the middle setting and a true monster at the high. Only tried it a few times then I was home alone 👍😄

[@thesethingsmakenoises]

Yeah it’s so good right!

[@cactus-mcjacktus]

sneaky Shergold in the back looking good!

[@thesethingsmakenoises]

It’s a great guitar for sure!

[@AMurder0fCrows]

Aaron Rush lays out a really good argument for the possibility that the speakers you play out of mean more than the amp does. This is particularly evident when you think about amp and speaker modellers (is that the term?). He's been chasing Nirvana tones and his ear is tuned for it so well that he could tell a tonal difference between celestion greenbacks from the 80s and 90s versus the ones from the late 60s and early 70s. Before I saw that video, I watched a jhs video about tube amps vs solid state which also threw me for a loop. The end results reminded me strongly of something I read in the home theater forums I used to commonly visit: you're far better off spending the majority of your budget on the best speakers you can afford than you are on getting the highest end receiver and skimping out on cheaper speakers. The videos really turned my perspective on amps in a 180. It won't stop me from wanting a decent tube amp some day, but I'm alright with a modeler until that day comes. Pre-rola era celestion greenbacks however, those aren't coming back any time soon.

[@thesethingsmakenoises]

Yeah I do agree! I think speakers to make a difference for sure but different amp setups definitely have different sounding characteristics

[@actionjackson5535]

Great video! Just wanted to say you are the most british person ever

[@TomsGreenMind]

I've used a few different versions of the Origin 50 live and they're great. It takes a Rat so well! I would have got one if I didn't snag a deal on an AC30.

[@thesethingsmakenoises]

Ahh yeah AC30s are awesome amps!!

[@RotterStudios]

Just found your channel. Really cool. Your right. That amp sounds great....really nice warm full character. I rarely use pedals and have never owned a distortion pedal...for the reasons you said. How many watts? A power brake would really bring that sound out! Subbed

[@thesethingsmakenoises]

It’s 50w but I’m not sure what it actually runs at on the low setting. Thanks for the sub!

[@RotterStudios]

@@thesethingsmakenoises thanks!

[@gregmonk9037]

My origin 5w is perfect for home play. Lush tubey goodness

[@thesethingsmakenoises]

Nice!! Annoyingly I forgot to mention the 5 and 20!

[@nedim_guitar]

The amp is important, but the speaker is even more important (mics and mic positios are also important). I was looking at the Origin 50 combo, but I settled for the DSL20CR. I later sold the DSL, because it didn't do it for me. My Blackstar Artist 15 has a punch that the Marshall just didn't have. And it's loud AF for a 15 W amp. It doesn't get very distorted, but it doesn't matter to me. I put it at the edge of breakup and use pedals. But I mostly play through my Boss IR-200 (recording, demoing) or the amp in the rehearsal room, a JJ Labs combo modded by Tommy Folkesson. Thanks to Folkesson, it's a Marshall sounding amp.

[@thesethingsmakenoises]

Yeah I think you’re right about speakers. Do you think that’s why your Blackstar sounds so good?

[@nedim_guitar]

@@thesethingsmakenoises I don't know. Maybe? What I do know is that it has a nice punch right at the initial pick attack, which the DSL didn't have at all. It's not a perfect amp, but I can't imagine what other (affordable) amp I could have that I would be satisfied with.

[@Wooburnmusic]

The Origin will have a Ltd lifespan due to the valves and controls being mounted to the PCB board, these amps on electrical engineers benches begin to get expensive to maintain, you are almost as well to use Marshall MG amps, their controls are also simply soldered to the PCB board.

[@BellsCuriosityShop]

I haven't tried an Origin, but thought they sounded great when I read about them when they were launched. For a player that uses pedals they sound like the best thing to buy. My guitars either go through the clean channel on my DSL or a vintage Carlsbro as they have that JTM/Plexi/JMP clean or crunch that use retro/traditional guys seem to like. I don't get all the hate (I assume it's from users of the higher gain stuff like the 900 or 2000 series). I gig as a bassist though (have done for 20 years), so I like a cleaner amp anyway as they can double as bass amps (with appropriate cabinets). I primarily use a MkIV Sound City, but bring out the Carlsbro if the SC is in for it's occasional service. The Carlsbro is crunchier and helped me enjoy playing at a gig during this huge golf competition about five years ago.

[@thesethingsmakenoises]

That sounds awesome mate!! I’ve heard great things about both the dsl and the carlsbro stuff!

[@Glensully]

i have the 50H. no regrets - its versatile! so many idiots saying its crap, they seriously dont know to set and amp and pay a guitar.. its more a balance between JTM45 and a Plexi. paid $745au - 386 Pound Sterling. its a steal

[@JC-ee8qm]

Man that's a great tone! What cab is it? Blackstar's definitely been upping their game for quite some time now

[@thesethingsmakenoises]

It’s the series one. Honestly it sounds awesome to be fair!

[@taylorguyot]

I would love to buy/or lease alt instrumentals from you! Do you offer these services ?

[@adama2562]

The Speakers have a huge effect on sound.I know fender will have different amps with the same schematic, all they do is use a different speaker.

[@thesethingsmakenoises]

Yeah very true!

[@user-cx7kg6ok9b]

If you're just doing bedroom pop or home studio use, 50 watts is overkill. The first time you crank it, you'll likely blow out your window and definitely get some complaints from the neighbors. The way tube elctronics work, in order to double the volume, you need to increase the power by 10. So to double the volume of this amp, you'd need 500 watts, not 100 watts. So this amp is only twice as loud as a 5 watt amp. You could get 2 10 or 15 watt tube amps and record in stereo.

[@thesethingsmakenoises]

No way! I didn’t know that. The attenuator inside is really good at curbing the volume, but they make a 5/20 watt version too

[@-igg1-912]

Your Jaguar has P90's 😍🤤😍🤤👍👌

[@thesethingsmakenoises]

Heck yeah! i love them!

[@slimdaddydogjim]

A Tabasco aficionado I see!

[@thesethingsmakenoises]

Heck yeah!!

[@Durkhead]

What speakers are in the blackstar Cabinet?

[@thesethingsmakenoises]

Celeste on vintage 30’s

[@JPTRFX]

titan enters the chat :E

[@thesethingsmakenoises]

I mean… I think it would give me a heart attack if I heard that thing turned up… one day!!

[@JPTRFX]

@@thesethingsmakenoises you can use our backline if we do a europe tour with you ;) btw i like the jonathan frakes intro hahaha

[@thesethingsmakenoises]

That would be awesome! Haha cheers!@@JPTRFX

[@tonedowne]

I think the DSL is actually a better amp. Just avoid the lead channel.

[@thesethingsmakenoises]

Ahh yeah I’ve heard great things actually

[@martijn_yt]

To be honest, I have no idea what a 'plexi' is (and I don't think anybody knows ;))

[@BenState]

Now look inside. A cheap POS that will become redundant like your mobile phone.

[@JC-ee8qm]

Who gives a f what's inside. It's an amp. Stop obsessing over snake oil craftmanship when it comes to amps.

[@BenState]

@@JC-ee8qm you clearly have no idea what you're talking about

[@JC-ee8qm]

Correct. I just play it. @@BenState

[@masterchef3019]

PCB amps can be fixed by any experienced tech, so it’s not really a worry

[@BenState]

@@masterchef3019 the cost almost always outweighs the value, but pcb is not the concern here. kzbin.info/www/bejne/paTJaomogduArKM