Why I Bought A Marshall Origin 50 For Metal..

[@adamBnEII]

The Origin is a total pedal platform amp.These amps run great with Friedman pedals too.I have the Origin 50C and I can say that I'm blown away with the way this amp performs with my overdrive/gain pedals.The FX loop is the way to go for delay and revebs.

[@TaylorDanley]

Yeah that’s been my experience as well

[@Blaze-ing]

Yeah i have this amp and I run a Friedman BE OD in front of it and its sounds incredible

[@LS67NOVA]

@@Blaze-ing any videos of your rig? I'm looking to do the same thing but I can't find any videos on it

[@mathias6423]

I have a DSL20HR that almost makes my bed lift when cranked in my bedroom with in the big rehearsal room with my loud drummer and the second guitarist bass player running 100W heads and with the same setup at smaller gigs but with this loud band the 20W Marshall head is just not loud enough. Now the only DSL Marshall seems to build between my DSL20W and DSL100W seems to be a combo at 40W and I do not want a combo and I think the DSL100WHR might be overkill for me. So, I am looking at this Marshall Origin 50W and I am thinking it should suit me perfectly. It only having one channel should not be a problem since I am running a Line6 Pod GO Wireless into it anyways so that will essentially be like adding a lot of channels to the amp right ? I really think this 50W head will be perfect for smaller gigs in a loud band setting and it should be more than enough to hang with other band members 100W heads in the rehearsal room

[@Glensully]

thats what i am thinking @@mathias6423

[@johnwardle9667]

I think this is a great idea, because it's not necessarily the obvious, tedious, same-same choice for a metal tone. But if you get the chugs dialled in, then it's bringing something pretty distinctive. It's pretty growly and fiery sounding. I like it..

[@thomasjohnson7712]

I never play the same ol same ol everyone does for music styles...like right now, I play a Friedman Wildwood PT20 for Doom and Sludge lol, and it doesn't disappoint at all.

[@rodreyes8436]

Yes! I recently added a Marshall to my stable, it seems like it’s one of those things that I’ve been missing all along! This Origin seems like a really interesting amp to me. Particularly before you added boost… can’t wait to hear it after the mods!

[@TaylorDanley]

🤘🤘

[@uriahroseii1026]

I had a DSL20 I sold, got the Origin 20 I liked but sold to get the Origin 50 which I'm digging. I use it with a A/B box to use my Princeston Reverb clean/Origin 50 dirty. I use a treble booster and parametric EQ to get those old 70s hard rock/metal tones. So far, so good. I'm using it with the MX212 cab loaded with a pair of old Fanes.

[@chrisday5341]

Sounds sick man! Good shit! Looking forward to see more of it!

[@73prd]

It doesn't need greenbacks , v30s are fine

[@Infernalhermit]

Check out Headfirst Amplification mods for the Origin, the guy has done Jose mods to a 20w and it sounds rad.

[@TaylorDanley]

Well aware! Actually that and the monomyth mods are what made me even confident what I wanted could be done, and why I bought it!

[@Infernalhermit]

@@TaylorDanley Haven't seen much about the Monomyth mod, gonna do a wee bit o' diggin.

[@TaylorDanley]

@@Infernalhermit oh man, that’s the real fire breathing mod, check it out!

[@clintn6677]

@@TaylorDanley I would love to mod one of these. I think Jason at Headfirst and Shea at Monomyth should get a cut of the sales.

[@Monomythamplification]

@@Infernalhermit kzbin.info/www/bejne/hIathIRorcqWpbc Here’s an unlisted video I made after I wrapped up the first one. *Thanks for the love Taylor.

[@GuitarMan3YT]

Marshall’s are great just as a tube power amp for your multi effects pedals (pods, helix, pedal board ect…) I used an old 70’s Marshall super lead 100 with my pedal board with 2 4x12 cabs. Couldn’t get the volume past 2!!! Sounded killer!!🤟🎸

[@TaylorDanley]

They are damn loud!

[@JohnSmith-ef2sx]

Modding that is a great idea. Can't wait to hear it after.

[@elihue_redneckreview]

Awesome presentation! I have the Origin 50 and absolutely love the versatility of this amp! It's a fantastic pedal platform and great for the studio. Here's an interesting way that I have been using it when I want a citrus flavored high gain - I run the effects send from my Orange Terror Stamp to the return on the Origin to bypass the Marshall preamp and capture the Dark Terror voicing! Or if I want the hotrodded Marshall tones, I just use the Friedman BE-OD Deluxe for a full 3 channels of increasing gain. IMO, Marshall really knocked it out of the park with the Origin, and the stem power scaling is such a wonderful feature! Cheers!

[@TaylorDanley]

Yeah I haven’t even messed with the fx loop yet!

[@Mudhoney1991]

Hi I'm using a marshall origin too for a clean pedal platform but I'm struggling to dial it in. Any tips? I use EHX EHX Sovtek bigmuff deluxe. EHX OpAmp. Wren and Cuff Garbage face. Looking for a nice Grungy vibe.

[@russbeard3665]

Cool beans, thanks for the test drive!

[@needsLITHIUM]

I would totally use one of these boosted by a TS808 or TS9, and then layer it with a metal zone or HM-2 for quad-track. Also, you could always run two different amps, like use the Dual Rec or 5150 into your Mesa cab, and then using an A/B/Y pedal, use the Origin as either a layer as is, boosted, or maybe one of those HM-2, Grindstein or whatever kind of boutique reiteration of the HM-2 you like. You could also run a dry/wet rig.

[@andrewsmith6898]

I'm a drummer mostly, but I keep two amps on a 2x12 with a v30 and greenback and those amps are an origin 50 and evh 5150iii stealth. This amp is THE amp for fuzz pedals.

[@MirkoPannuzzo]

ooooooo finally the review I was searching for!!!!!

[@MirkoPannuzzo]

you think for me buy this beast using for some chrunchy tones from his own channel and with a band for metal (as power amp going in the return on the back, specific a Mooer preamp live in it) will give me the thightness I need? I was looking ad the dsl20, but im scared of the 20 watt in a metal situation, I think that with an energic drummer I will be so low.

[@bradcofield7848]

The IR sounds terrible.

[@221b-l3t]

It doesn't have speaker émulation

[@irubberyouglueonethousand5384]

7:07 reminds me of the Kerry King Beast JCM800. Sounds perfect to me. No modifications "needed" really.

[@akaboo69]

Sounds killer dude. I love the origins almost bought one and was going to boost it but I love my axe fx ii

[@TaylorDanley]

Still use my axefx live, but hoping this will be a cool and unique studio sound!

[@wheresallthezombies]

They’re cheap enough to justify buying a used one. I’ve seen them for $300-400 locally. Could be a sick rig to combine the origin and axe fx

[@HeathJohnPoker]

@@TaylorDanley kzbin.info/www/bejne/l3vSaaV5qquqsLc

[@dt-hf8vz]

the price of these have gone up about 200 bucks since i bought mine about a year and a half ago

[@ozzieverdugo5862]

That pedal made that amp sound killer!🤘🏿

[@riffsnoleads]

It's definitely an amp that shines best with dynamic playing and guitar volume/tone control adjustment. I use it stock for HM2 dbeat with no problems.

[@TaylorDanley]

I plugged the Swedish steel into it the other day and was pretty surprised at how awesome it sounded!

[@Paul_Lenard_Ewing]

Get an attenuator!!! Marshall use a 1 microfarad on the first cathode, get your tech to swap it out for a 10 or higher . I got the mod from Dave Barber of Barber pedals. It will fix the lows. Then do a blindfold test with a Marshall 1987x and try and guess which one is which, lol. I am 75 and got my first Plexi to play in the Brit Prog Rock band Tallis. in '71. Trust me ...the Origin 50 is indeed a Plexi.

[@TaylorDanley]

Thanks for the tip! 🙌🙌

[@riffsnoleads]

I felt like it was a little more JTM45 than Plexi but really, most Marshalls sound pretty similar with enough knob twisting.

[@Paul_Lenard_Ewing]

@@riffsnoleads It is closest to a JCM 50 model 1987

[@jenyahp2828]

Love the tone of the Mega Greens! 🔥

[@eds4754]

would definitely recommend cranking the MV on these, so much of the plexi tone comes from the power amp and these sound a bit limp when they’re run at lower settings. when it’s modded it’ll be more like a jcm 800 where the sweet spot is quieter. Are you doing Jason Tong’s Headfirst mod? Cool tones with the Mesa cab regardless, although those Greenback IR’s sounded off to me

[@riffsnoleads]

def gotta push that master volume.

[@Panic42000]

This amp is nothing like a real plexi. I also love when people say plexi tones. Which plexi tones? There are about 10 different types of plexi amps.

[@eds4754]

@@Panic42000 origin is sort of a reference to the older Marshalls with no MV. cranking the MV on the origin is what makes the tone more like those older models. there are lots of models and variation between marshalls but anything pre 1976 has a very similar pre amp section amp to amp. Main differences are whether they are split or shared cathode, one coupling cap value and the tone stack (of which there are 2). Not saying there aren’t other differences, but there are more similarities than differences in their design. Of course there are different power sections, transformers, valves, tube rectifiers etc but there are clear similarities between them which the Origin is evocative of. The fact you can so easily mod an Origin into a plexi style amp is a clue as to what the basis of the preamp is from

[@azzazelo]

It can't be beat for the price. I got one in a trade a little while back was a couple of months old and dude had receipt and box and everything. Basically $250 lol dude told me it was flat and lifeless. Got home and cracked it with a load box and voila. It's not an amp for low volume settings as you said but pass the middle on the master and it's very very good

[@TaylorDanley]

Yeah, I agree. I actually like playing through it a lot! Which is surprising with all the other gear I have to play with, lol.

[@azzazelo]

@@TaylorDanley I like that it brutally unforgiving. Makes you play cleaner than the high compression counterparts. I enjoy that a lot

[@nicwilson89]

These are pretty fun for modding into fire breathing monsters all on their own even before you add pedals :D Plenty of room on the faceplate for adding switches and knobs, too, which is always nice

[@Mudhoney1991]

Thanks for the video. I recently brought a Marshall origin 50 I like playing Grunge style guitar. Ambient soundscapes too. I'm a bit puzzled why the amp has no reverb? I'm playing it super clean and using a EHX sovtek deluxe Bigmuff. A Wren and Cuff Garbage Face and a EHX OpAmp And a EHX Littlw Bigmuff. Not all at the same time!🤣 I try and dial them in different to each other. Reverb I have a EHX Oceans 11 A EHX holy grail. I'm still though kinda struggling with this amp. Your right its very hard to get the master volume up past 3..4.. I'm using a old 100 watt Marshall 4 ×12" speakers and I'm in a little room!🤣😂 Help!!. Any tips on dialling in thus amp would be really appreciated. Hope you can help.⭐ Thankyou.⭐

[@jacobdemaranville4240]

I normally put the MV on max and use the gain knob for volume. I then use pedals for my gain tone

[@TheDeedeeFiles]

Sounds awesome man

[@Manthonyrules]

Comments for the algorithm. Thanks for the awesome content ❤

[@dawnpsy6663]

Hi, Taylor…What guitar is that, please? Need one of those..

[@TaylorDanley]

Grimoire by Deviant Guitars

[@hijikataissei9623]

I just ordered one. I'm excited to see how it sounds pushed with my Klon KTR and a Friedman BE-OD on each watt setting. I have a JTM45 Combo (BluesBreaker) and I plan to compare them both.

[@thedanksavatron7782]

Nissssssssssssssssssce 🍻 Can't wait to hear it after the mod! 🌋🤺

[@adamwatson6916]

The origin 50 also sounds great with the celestion Ceamback M65 which is basically a 65 watt greenback but a bit darker and smoother and has a bigger and tighter low end with a woody lower midrange. Sweetwater does an exclusive version with the Creamback M65 as the stock speaker and they posted a comparison video between the stock origin 50 and the creamback loaded version and it sounds so much better with the Cremback . More clarity tighter low end and more vintage sounding .

[@KPGuitarStudios]

Sounds pretty badass like that. Shea will get that sucker tweaked right out, just add an EQ pedal to the loop and it will do exactly what you want once you've got your gain boost circuit added in there

[@TaylorDanley]

We are gonna do all sorts of cool stuff, so hopefully I won’t need to put anything else on it when it’s done!

[@KPGuitarStudios]

@@TaylorDanley What do you figure the development time looks like? Early 2022 release of the Grimoire Origin? 😉

[@TaylorDanley]

@@KPGuitarStudios quite possibly!!!

[@thomashalley7258]

There's a origin 50 combo at the shop near me and compared to other amps its sounds awesome for chugs. It almost sounds like down tuned just by changing amps.

[@edneyhelenedossantos1875]

This amp just arrived at my apartment and i'm shocking surprised with the quality of it! Now i just need some new Dist pedals to make it chugg, for now the metalzone is doing it tho, fantastic tone!

[@ahrimarserdar5603]

i wanne use it with boss gx-100. Do u think lambs of this amp will help a good sound with my boss processor or " no u dont need that amp for gx-100, buy a cheap amp or buy a JVM amp". What do u think? thx guys.

[@FastRedPonyCar]

This one has been on my radar to try. I never considered modding but the headfirst amplification guy's vid sounds great. Makes me wonder how different something like the Mr Scary module would work instead. Also, have you seriously been waiting nearly 2 years for the mod work to get done? I didn't see a follow up video and thought maybe you had it done and it didn't really do it for you and you quietly let it slide or you decided against getting it modded and sold the amp.

[@jameshagan429]

Hey I’m seriously thinking about buying this amp. I can’t find that pedal you’re using? Can you point me in the right direction

[@timmyd759]

Have you tried the Mooer 005 in the effects loop? For the price, this head seems like it would be good for pushing a high gain preamp through.

[@profile_01]

Had this amp for 1.5 yrs never really loved it until I started cutting the treble back and cranking the presence , cut most of the bass too , mids to taste. And also sweet spot on master volume is around 5 (low power mode)

[@rebeccabailey527]

Mids and presence is where marshalls live. You can run it with the tilt on half, bass on 2, mids all the way up, no treble at all, full presence, and you get the classic marshall tone, of course after you turn up the gain and volume.

[@niceride777]

When are you going to do a comprehensive review of that Boss Katana MkII head you have in the background and give us your opinion on that?

[@TaylorDanley]

Soon!

[@CT76OH]

That boost is fantastic

[@TaylorDanley]

This Heavy Earth makes some great stuff!

[@CT76OH]

@@TaylorDanley not hip to them but, thank you for this video definitely watching them

[@jamesp9141]

Great Demo. I run mine thru a Marshall 1965A cab (4x10 Mid Monster) & w/a Boss DS-1 or a Marshall Jackhammer. (or other nasty dirt makers) ha-ha. I just got a 7 band EQ w/a 15db boost gonna try that to tighten things up. Gibson Les Paul or a 2001 Les Paul Jr. P-90's Love this Amp! Rock-n-Roll!! I don't have an Attenuator, been thinking of getting one though.

[@timborek7109]

I award you one Like for using the Audix i5. Great mic!

[@Turbo-D]

keep the krank amps i see in the background buddy, i bought two of these long ago for 500€ each, now they are just at 2500€ ...got r1 plus and krankenstein plus..cheers 🎸🎸

[@lukeguppy1030]

What brand of guitar are you using ?

[@ThatMFShawnzy]

Boosted…sounds just like I would expect a marshall to sound with a badass boost 🤘🏼

[@ellescer]

What loadbox would you recommend

[@sygyl]

dudeee what guitar is that?? i love the leviathans cross on the inlay

[@jayteesgear]

Just bought one and had NO idea the FOOTSWITCH activates the effects loop lol. And yes it has a woofy bottom end but im gonna give it a few days of tweaking before i make up my mind on keeping it or not. We shall see

[@jayteesgear]

News flash. SENT BACK! Ugh shipping was $100 but this amp was a mess! That bottom end fizz was crap

[@ianstrickland5280]

what is that guitar!? super cool

[@n_money1019]

Dude that sounds incredible. Where would be ideal to have one modded?

[@TaylorDanley]

Lots of people mod them. I found out through modding them from the headfirst KZbin channel and the Monomyth KZbin channel.

[@themusketeer9458]

i am using this as an amp to my kemper stage. I plug the kemper to the return channel to remove the amp eq. However. The presence dial still works so it can affect my kemper tones significantly. Do you know what the presence should be set at to give zero changes to my tone? is it 12, is it 0 or is it full up?

[@taylolz]

Presence is usually broader than treble. So if you like an extended high end then turn it up and adjust your presets to it. There is no real neutral position.

[@alexblankenship2486]

Who are you getting to do the mod work?

[@TaylorDanley]

Shea from This Heavy Earth Effects

[@patrickadams639]

I plan on picking one up for cheap. So I'm curious as to what mods you've done ? Thanks for the content bro.

[@LeviJules]

This amp from the few times I've been able to play with it is an *amazing* pedal platform. Seriously. I want to get one for just a nice pedalboard rig for home recordings!

[@TaylorDanley]

Can confirm, great for that

[@bobbypay7911]

Imo, the mic'd cabinet sounded better than the IR. The IR sounded overly scooped

[@Fred_pimpstone-II]

I work at a music store with pretty much the whole range of the origin stuff, before i started working there all my fellow employees (of which all have a taste for the high gain) panned and hated these amps and ididn’t understand why. I just listened to their two cents and went “i kinda dig em” paired with a modest shrug. On my lunch break after that conversation, i grabbed a boss os-2 from the pedal case, plugged into an origin combo and within seconds I had em running asking “goddamn whats that nasty?!” Boy were they surprised. These things love boosts, op amp distortion, and definitely break up nice with your fav flavor of dirt’s level SLAMMING into the front.

[@Kyoto_at_night]

@@Fred_pimpstone-II That’s good to hear. My main gain pedal is an os-2 and i just ordered an or50 head!

[@R3dbudd]

I picked up a 20h and had it modded into a 2204 circuit. The tube buffer for the loop gets redirected into the gain stage so you use the loop, but had a solid state loop added in it's place. I kinda wish I still had the footswitchable loop though, so I'm gonna pick up a 50w and leave it stock. I boost with an MXR CMBAO and it rips, attenuated with a Fryette Power Station. I think the 20 or 50 stock can get into metal territory fine with the power section pushed and the right boost. I live on 5w mode.

[@R3dbudd]

I also run mine thru a Mesa OS straight/slant cab and it's glorious. Gonna throw Greenbacks in my 2x12 and put it on top the Mesa.

[@TaylorDanley]

Nice, that's similar to what I plan on. Starting there, and then probably adding a few tweaks to it. Most likely a Jose mod with some switchable clipping options.

[@stephenkerr5792]

Me personally modded yes running it through a board like the helix would boost that shit up without you spending all the money. I seriously think that clean portion would be a nice adition to the stomps on the helix may be a huge difference do a vid on that you will have a winner since you already have one helix thats a awesome all in one rig!!

[@TaylorDanley]

I’m looking for something very specific with the mods that just can’t be done with external processing. You can get close with distortion and EQ, but this amp has sort of a compressed tight low end that needs some work

[@stephenkerr5792]

@@TaylorDanley george lynch tube mods check that one out that may reach the tone you're looking for Listen to some of the you tube vids there arent just one kind of mod bro always think outside the box!!!

[@butchered_deathmetal]

What’s that guitar? that laveyan cross inlay is awesome.

[@Baghdadbatterymusic]

If you don't wanna spend a bunch on Greenbacks (even more if you go vintage), check out the Eminence Squareback speakers from the 70's. They were in a bunch of amps and cabs across many brands back then and are dirt cheap today. I liked the origin with the stock speaker, but the Squareback really makes it into something special.

[@dustyballs994]

Ok definitely interested to see what mods you do

[@johnroesch689]

Waited 6 months for this amp to come in. It will be moded soon

[@joseaprincipe6024]

Do it have a clean sound and distortion with foot pedal that comes with it

[@KySlowIsSmoothSmoothisFast]

Blend your 5150 or another amp with low low end with both into your 4x12 that's what I do.

[@ValSchnitzel]

Yo, what guitar is this?

[@TaylorDanley]

Deviant Guitars Grimoire

[@ValSchnitzel]

@@TaylorDanley thank you, it seriously looks killer!

[@JMK-kb1yq]

What is the name of that pedal again? Thanks

[@TaylorDanley]

Grim from this heavy earth effects

[@JMK-kb1yq]

@@TaylorDanley thank you Sir!

[@ryanohlson4181]

First of all, that thing sounds gnarly with that pedal in front of it. Second, what kind of guitar is that? I did some looking around and couldn't find it, but that thing is sweet as hell. I'm looking at getting a new guitar sometime soon, and I was planning on a Kelly, but that one has me super interested. Love the bevels and the headstock!

[@TaylorDanley]

🤘 Grimoire by Deviant Guitars. It’s a prototype, probably not available until early next year, but I’ll be doing an update on my channel about it soon!

[@nathansealey6270]

Great video, & Tool are famous for using 1970s Marshall plexi’s

[@joecrowsantibanez1733]

Where are you sending it to get moded

[@jhue73]

you got to turn that master up to about at least 6 before it starts sounding good.

[@tobins6800]

I have a Joyo zombie, it doesn't do bright tones well at all. So I am looking for something Marshally. Why? Double tracking. Should be able to reamp without much in the way of time slides given that the amps have such different characteristics.

[@Nothingineternity]

I run the Zombie with the tone dimed and a Caline 10 band EQ in the loop and it does a great job with crisp bright tones. I think the EQ in the loop is the most important thing with the Joyo bantamps

[@tobins6800]

@@Nothingineternity I just ordered one last night, and a behringer 808 clone. In my mind there will still characteristic similarities with the one amp. Was considering the Jackman or a mini BE. All the way up to the Peavey invective.

[@TaylorDanley]

I have a joyo jackman that I bought to blend with my other joy zombie. Very cool little amp, especially for the price and size, but this thing is just a different beast all together. I mean it’s obnoxiously loud.

[@peterrovaniemi138]

Did you mod it?

[@lukesteenblock9126]

what tuning are you in?

[@Podcastforthewin]

I was gonna ask the same.. maybe it’s just me, but it sounds really bad

[@Nickstermc]

Sounds nice but the whole attenuator, boost pedals, volume issues, workarounds with amps generally is why I went modelling years ago and have never looked back.

[@PNWGuitar]

Found an origin 20w in Canada for like $400 I'm very tempted

[@TaylorDanley]

👀 idk about the 20w, but if it’s anything like this, it’s probably kick ass!

[@huskybrutor9287]

The JHS black box didn’t work. Got a real one from Carls Guitar Work. I run a Rat into and it gets pretty nasty. People always hate on it but we’re usually hitting most amps with a tube screamer any way. I just have a tube screamer and a Rat now

[@TheDistortionPrinciple]

I wonder if this could take fuzz for stoner doom

[@TaylorDanley]

Most definitely. It's a true pedal platform amp.

[@TheDistortionPrinciple]

@@TaylorDanley post a stoner doom short right now!!!! Lol

[@TaylorDanley]

@@TheDistortionPrinciple I wouldn't be the guy to do it justice, and besides that the amp is actually being modded right now so I don't have it

[@TheDistortionPrinciple]

@@TaylorDanley yep wonder how that mods gonna sound

[@nathaniel_pardue]

I owned one. Ran a 5150 Overdrive into the front, and a Spark booster in the fx. LOVED the tone, but anytime I'd try to boost with the Spark, just for a volume boost for guitar solos, it would just stay the same to my ears no matter how much I turned up the Spark or ran it in front or back. Very frustrating.

[@052RC]

That's how a volume control works. The industry, in general, does a poor job of explaining things like this. On an amp like this Marshall, there's 2 ways you can make distortion/overdrive. The first is with gain. Most of your distortion comes from applying excess gain to the tubes in your preamp. This directly distorts the signal. You can also make distortion with your power tubes, but you do it in a different way. The reason for this is, gain controls are placed on the input of a component, and volume controls are on the output of a component. If you placed a volume control on the power amp section of the head, it would have to come after the output tubes. That means it would have to attenuate the amplified signal that goes to the speakers. Something like that can be done, but no one actually does it. Since you have no gain and volume controls on the power amp section of the head, you have to distort the signal with the volume control on the preamp. If you have channel volumes and a master volume, both are in the preamp. The problem with a volume control is it can't alter or effect the signal in any way. Its a passive device and all it can do is attenuate the signal. So, when the signal comes into the amp from the preamp, it passes through unchanged. When you use volume to create distortion, you basically just keep turning it up to the point where the power tubes fail and can't play cleanly anymore. Its no different than if you turned you car or home stereo system up really loud. You reach a point where you are asking too much from the equipment. The downside to using volume to distort the tubes this way is you're typically forced to play the amp at loud volumes, like in the video. Also, I'm sure you noticed either from your own experience, or by comments from other people, you can have issues with bass. The lower the frequency, the harder the amp has to work to produce it. When you push the power tubes to failure, bass frequencies are the first to go. That's why pedals are often used to help clean up the bass so it doesn't sound so muddy. In response to your comment on what's going on when you turn the volume up but the amp doesn't get any louder, you have to remember volume controls are passive devices. They work like a gate. All a volume control can do is let the signal pass through it. Once it opens to a certain point, that's all you get. You can keep turning the knob, but the gate is already open to its max. Aside from all that, you made a mistake. You typically don't put a boost control in you fx loop. Whatever you plug into the fx loop should be going directly to your power amp. You're bypassing your preamp. Your volume control would only work on whatever was plugged into the input of the preamp. Something like a delay or reverb pedal should go in the fx loop. Anything involving gain (distortion, fuzz, overdrive, boost), should go to your channel input. So, if you plug your boost into the preamp, your issue should be fixed.

[@DragDealer]

Is there a link to the mod vid of the origin?

[@TaylorDanley]

Still waiting for it unfortunately 🫠

[@DarrenWaters75]

I bet that amp would sound smoking with one of those Legendary Tones Hot Mod in it. I have always considered Marshalls a traditional metal amp, everyone used them in the 80s.

[@TaylorDanley]

Those are really cool! I think the first mod that you do with these amps is reconfiguring the fx loop tube to a preamp tube, which is probably similar to running one of those legendary hot mods.

[@christopherward4671]

Unfortunately the hot mod is incompatible with the origin series.

[@harryesteves387]

I know it aint chug.. but how would u people go about getting the best gary moore tone through these amps.. got the combo

[@MrZlatkoLjubovic]

My friend has one of these but 20w. It is pedal friendly, and you have to cranck it up to let it shine, otherwise sounds very thin. Put some marshall in the box pedal type in front of it...

[@TaylorDanley]

I definitely noticed it open up a lot using the attenuated output of my captor, but low end was still kinda compressed and woofy

[@052RC]

@@TaylorDanley That's a very common problem, and it can happen with just about any tube amp. You can't use gain to overdrive the power tubes directly like you can in the preamp. To get power tube distortion you need to use volume. A volume control can't alter the signal like gain, so your only option is to turn the volume up until your power tubes fail and start to break up. The lower the frequency, the harder the amp has to work to produce it. When you push your power tubes to failure, the lows are the first to go. If you use an overdrive or boost pedal in front of the preamp, you should be able to get your low frequencies sounding right. Or, if you are OK with using a more aggressive distortion pedal, you shouldn't need to rely on power tube distortion at all. The upside is, you can play your amp at much lower volumes while still keeping your tone.

[@CollinPeterson615]

Sounded killer with the boost. Not a fan of the IR, your mic did a much better job in my opinion! Not even a contest.

[@vincentrandles8105]

Can't wait too hear the "Moded" version! At least you're not one of the girly men too afraid to turn the volume up, around all their vintage guitars!! What total knobs!!

[@akaboo69]

I want one and ill boost it with my helix overdrives using 4 cable method

[@therollband1290]

I guarantee a 50w head and cabinet with distortion pedals will sound 💯 better than any modeling or sim when playing live

[@thedddemon]

I wish you used a distortion pedal instead of that overdrive.

[@jonathanfrigola9121]

Love my Origin50

[@weinderdog1184]

I'm sure if you throw a 10 band eq in the loop you can prolly give that low end the attention it needs

[@TaylorDanley]

Yeah I thought the same. Haven’t tried it yet. Wondering if the tone stack will even allow it to be opened up at all or if it will be super compressed still, just louder

[@Project_2501]

I will never understand why people will choose a harsh high gain distortion with these annoying 10kHz frequencies over the brutal crunchy distortion of a Marshall amp that is just super round and pleasant in that frequency range and is not a total hustle to EQ out to make it sound right in a mix. I mean it sounded great before and then you plugg this disgusting pedal to that beautyful sounding amp? This is a disgraceful act to commit!

[@Podcastforthewin]

It’s one of those weird fazes some people go through. That’s why I’m not a fan of Mesa rectifiers..

[@Mega_trav]

Are you modding it or taking it to someone? Please share the mods you make!

[@TaylorDanley]

Taking it to someone, I don’t trust myself with that job. I absolutely will!

[@mfkrwill]

I see you in the background Spider V head, eventually you'll get your time in the Sun-nO))) But I tried the origin at sweetwater with one of the diezel preamp pedals in front and it works pretty well. I'd say it's a pedal platform type head.

[@TaylorDanley]

It does work pretty well with pedals... unless you want a Plexi type tone, then it's perfect for that.

[@thatsameenergy]

The Monomyth mod is god tier

[@joebodynobody764]

Someday, when I'm not broke as fuck, I plan on buying this amp.

[@221b-l3t]

@@joebodynobody764 I found the 50W combo for 280€ used. See them for 400€ all the time. Great deal.

[@gravelrocks5588]

Check out the dsl20hr it rips

[@Infernalhermit]

I second this, surprised the shit outta me.

[@TaylorDanley]

I contemplated that as well, but in the end that plexi style charm won me over lol

[@randymiles904]

Boomer amp? For the most part, any marshall can do metal.

[@DougZbikowski]

"Marshall is not known as a metal amplifier." Oh sweet child...

[@Turbo-D]

i would buy a dsl 100hr instead, much more bang for your buck imo, got mine for 450€ b stock at thomann , cheers 🎸👍