The BEST American Bagger Is???

Today we are reviewing the Harley Davidson Street Glide and the Indian Chieftain Limited and at the end of the video, we will see which one is the best and why.

[@pistnbroke2]

I have just purchased a 2023 darkhorse. I loved the way it handles and like you said, value for money. I was a sports bike rider, so it was a big step for me to buy something totally different to what I am used to

[@timgriffin8442]

Sold my Harley for the chieftain. The level of ride, quality fit and finish is just so much better. I’m a motorcycle cop so I ride an electra glide for a living. I get to do back to back comparisons every day. Indian wins hands down

[@His_Scout_Sixty]

What engine does your Electra have? Which chieftain did you get?

[@matthewcanfield6748]

​@@His_Scout_SixtyCrickets. Probably a mall cop that rides a Honda Shodow

[@His_Scout_Sixty]

@@matthewcanfield6748 😂

[@seanc8420]

Indian is way stronger and smoother than Any Chinese HD

[@His_Scout_Sixty]

@@seanc8420 😂

[@blackbuttecruizr]

Just bought a 23 Chieftain, felt like it was a better value than the HD. Found it odd that the Indian dealers could point out all the differences between their product and HD. But the HD dealers knew NOTHING about Indians. The features on the Indian like the power windshield, ride modes and general tech were superior in my opinion.

[@keystomotoadventures2399]

You can argue over which bike is best. I will only buy and Indian. I have gone with a friend to has his Harley repaired or serviced the last 3 times he went to a dealership. Three different dealerships and all of them treated the motorcycle owners like crap. Last time inside the dealership I looked at my friend and said buy and Indian next time. They won’t treat you like crap and I walked out.

[@slaskey]

I wanted a harley also the shit treatment at dealerships took me strait to indian wont look back

[@keystomotoadventures2399]

@@slaskey enjoy. What model did you get?

[@slaskey]

Chieftain limited

[@keystomotoadventures2399]

@@slaskey sweet I bought the 2023 Pursuit Premium dark horse.

[@timothydubois5834]

@@slaskey I also just had the HD dealership experience. They lost a customer. Chieftian for me.

[@360Tinman]

Some 3 years ago, while owning a H-D Sportster 48/1200, Heritage 117, and a Deluxe 107, I was ready to buy a Street Glide. I had wanted a H-D Street Glide without any reservations, until I test rode a 2020 Indian Chieftain Darkhorse 116. I purchased the Chieftain DH home the same day after test riding it and have had no regrets. The Indian Chieftain DH was a much better fit for myself.

[@vaderglide5978]

I have a 2019 Chieftain Darkhorse (111ci) as well. Love it! Running Stage 2 cams, K&N air intake filter, Tabs Performance exhaust 2-1-2, 2.5” baffles and a Dynojet Power Vision tuner.

[@vaderglide5978]

Your opinion is subjected as all opinions are, mine included. I rode a SG for 9 years. At high speeds, I felt the SG become a little unstable and with that being said, the CDH held the line. The suspension front and rear is incredible out the showroom. Didn’t have to put expensive rear shocks with reservoirs. Wanted to try another American V-Twin company and so here I am. Good review.

[@ruoyuchen9367]

which one sounds better？

[@MrAndrew1953]

I like the adjustable screen on the Indian and the phone charger pocket just behind the screen. Being able to adjust your screen lower for around town and higher on the highway,makes a difference in summer I think. I like the handlebars on the Harley. T bars? Heated grips and seat are important for me in terms of how much I'd use the bike in winter. The older I get,the more important creature comforts become.

[@sprezzatura8755]

The more comfortable a bike is, the more you will ride it.

[@randomstuffwithjoe]

I'll take the Indian all day over the HD

[@erics9754]

Me too!!

[@HISVOICE4LIFE]

My thing with HD is the culture…..Indian has a fresh culture feel to it….more tech and reliability as well. HD has the aftermarket by the balls….dominates, but they are stuck in the old farts culture…they need to arrive im 2022 from 1990’s. My 2cents

[@sprezzatura8755]

Yeah but both bikes are vintage retro-styled. Both are trying to strike a balance between their heritage and staying relevant and contemporary. It's not a bad thing but Indians more and more look like updated Victory motorcycles. I've written both and I like both for different reasons. To each his own. But as a taller rider, the Indian seems roomier and more comfortable. I think Harley has three times as many dealers nationally as Indian. For what it's worth.

[@drainmonkeys385]

I think the Indian is more artistic looking…has better features

[@williamwheeler9708]

I live in the Pittsburgh, North Metro area, am a retired LEO motor officer and have owned a 2000 Road King Classic, since new with only 104,000 miles. I was the first guy in my riding group to purchase a HD. We were all on metric bikes and eventually ALL of us purchased HDs. Indians weren’t even on the radar. I’m an old guy, 62 and looking to purchase my last motorcycle. I’ve been loyal, but no longer married to HD and that is something that has drastically changed for me in the past 4-5 years. HD has been under a new regime that is streamlining and closing dealerships Nationwide. HD has shuttered six dealerships in Southwestern PA in the last 10 years. My local dealer is a mere 5 miles from my home, was forced to merge with its sister dealership and still do not have ONE HD certified mechanic in their shop. Since the closings, it’s the only HD dealer in Allegheny County / Pittsburgh area. I travel 40 miles north to have my Road King serviced. Prior to this turmoil, I’d have never considered an Indian. Like my truck and SUV, I will only consider a vehicle from an American manufacturer. Having ridden both, IMHO, HD fit, finish, appearance, paint, styling gets the nod over Indian….BUT I’m no longer doing the “group rides” we did 20 years ago. I’m looking for the American heavyweight cruiser which best suits my needs. As of 3/19/2024, I’m looking to purchase a NEW, 2022 Indian Roadmaster Limited (still in the crate) for $22,500 vs a used 2022 HD Ultra at $26,000 w/ 15,000 miles and doesn’t have the heated seat, grips, adjustable windshield or longer wheelbase for my 6’2” frame.

[@northerniltree]

So, how do you like your new Roadmaster? Lay it on me: the good, the bad, and the ugly.

[@davidmichael9275]

Hey neighbor! Are you talking about Gatto and Hot Metal? What happened there was a mess.

[@PotatoeJoe69]

Something else to note: a CVO may be $42,000 MSRP... but you're not buying one for less than 50k. That Indian Chieftain Elite, which has more features than the CVO, and an MSRP for $33,000 can actually be bought for around 35k. Harley will mark their bike up and bend you over before you walk out that door with a key in your hand.... if you want to realistically spend $15,000 more for the Harley which has less features... lmao, go right ahead. I'll buy the Chieftain Elite, and then take the 15k I saved and buy myself a second bike. Probably a Chief as a bar hopper. 😅

[@TwitchyMovies]

I still like the Indian Chieftain's old fairing and the huge front fender (Pre-2018) much better than the current one. Felt way more unique to the old Indian style.

[@roguecheddar]

I'm with you on that, the classic retro Indian style is totally unique. Now you can only get that on the Roadmaster. To me there is room for both styles, but I'm sure the bean counters would argue differently.

[@victoryrider]

I agree. The new ones look too much like a street glide to me. The previous generation had its own style.

[@bruceglazer3581]

@@roguecheddar And Springfield.

[@roguecheddar]

@@bruceglazer3581 Tru dat. Thanks Bruce, I was only thinking of the bikes with the farings in my reply, particularly the Chieftains. I own a 2019 Springfield and it is superb. I hope Indian brings back the Vintage as well. I'm all about the retro style. I think there is room for both.

[@roswellrider9803]

@@roguecheddar You can buy both. They never got rid of the old fairing.

[@RMC2021]

I just rode a 2022 Chieftain and 2022 street glide CVO back to back this weekend. Aside from the aftermarket support, the Indian absolutely beat the HD in every way - really no debate. I watch alot of your videos and love your channel. You always seem to lean towards the Indian during comparisons but still buy HD. Just curious if it’s brand loyalty? I saw you bought a 24 road glide and just curious how the new harley compares to the challenger…

[@crobin9150]

A typical review between Indian and Harley. It i very apparent that as a Harley owner and based upon other content, you are committed to the Harley brand. The best bagger is what an individual preference. Personally, I do not like the Harley community.

[@mydamhouse]

Lol, I already had guessed that you would go with HD over the Indian. But let's face it, it strongly depends on the person's vibe when it comes down to motorcycles, cars or anything else for that fact. Good review on the bikes.

[@ErikaRobinson-dl7lu]

This was a great review! I've owned Harley's for years and I know this is a tough decision for some. Harley has been around like forever. I have to think about reliability. I dropped Harley because they don't stand behind there mistakes. The M8 motor is good and terrible at the same time. And they keep selling it as if they have worked out all the issues and they are far from it. The indian gives you more and they haven't had the issues with the thunder stroke. Indian is the way to go, Plus it's nice to be different.

[@206-HoneyBadger]

I test rode the Indian Chieftain Darkhorse a month ago. Priced cheaper, more gimmicks (ie. ride mode, locking bags, etc.), and WAY easier to maneuver due to better engineering in design. The bike feels way lighter compared to the Street Glide. Downside: the easier ride made it feel cheap to me... I actually chuckled as I did tight circles in a lot because I honestly felt like I was riding a lil' scooter. The inner fairing is ugly as hell because it looks like a cheap lil' E.T. head looking at me; and it was way too plasticky in look and feel. The screen also looks outdated with no color scheme, but does have lots of overload on info if you want it. It also sounded like a lil' scooter when riding with the exception of smacking the throttle like this guy did in the video. I know you can change out the exhaust, but it sounds nothing like a Harley stock. I decided to go with the Street Glide Special because it feels like and sounds like a real tough American Iconic bike. If you want a cookie cutter that looks like every other bike off the showroom floor, buy an Indian. It's a perfect easy to ride for a female, but probably not for a dude who wants to customize his own machine.

[@izzojoseph2]

The thing that scared me was the air cooled vs water cooled engine. What’s your take?

[@erics9754]

@@206-HoneyBadger If you want a cookie cutter that looks like every other bike off the showroom floor, buy a Harley. If you want a quality mans bike buy an Indian plus with a Harley it will spend most of its time in the garage getting fixed sorry buddy you never rode one everything you said is BS. The Harleys inner fairing looks cheap to me and the stereo sucked the Indian you can reach and the screen is responsive and has so much info on it plus the windshield is adjustable something a Harley does not even offer!!!I also like the fact i did not go along with all the sheeple and buy the same bike my Indian gets compliments because it is different and looks so much nicer than a hardley.

[@206-HoneyBadger]

@@erics9754 Sorry, I hurt your feelings. And to your point, HD is starting to look like the same cheap plastic cookie cutters nowadays by coping Indian for competitive reasons. Ride safe!

[@northerniltree]

Honda's Monkey has 'em both by the balls at only $3,995 and 70 MPG.

[@roguecheddar]

As a proud owner of a stunning 2019 Indian Springfield in steel gray and metallic burgundy, the TS 111-116 is a jewel of an engine with torque out the yingyang. Cruiser Heaven, all day, every day.

[@jag1963]

I rode the Harley Street Glide Special and the Indian Cheiftain back to back a week ago and the Indian wins hands down for me.The mirriors on the harley become redundant if you fit any kind of riser or ape bars on the harley. Adjustable electronic Windsheild on the Indian. Fixed on the Harley. Better rear shock on the Indian. LEDs all around on the Indian. Fit and finish is on a par with Harleys.The Harleys Front Brembo brakes are very good.But no better than the indians brakes. And after all that come to find out that the Indian was cheaper Out the door I was quoted $39845 for the HD special with the blacked out Engine/pipes and $33232 for the Indian Cheiftain Darkhorse. 6500 Cheaper for more bike. The only reason anyone picks the Harley is Dealer network, Customization, Brand loyalty or Ignorance of how good the Indian is.

[@travelingbrother3576]

Just Bought my first Harley two months ago. 13’ FLHX 🥂🤟🏿

[@motorcitymadman146]

I hear Harley Davidson is going to make a new model to replace the Fatboy. The all new LADYBOY made exclusively in Thailand.

[@robm6755]

I just purchased a indian springfield and could not be anymore happier... it's a 2018 with the 111 and it is alot bigger then my old Honda shadow.

[@jefferyturner4675]

The Indian has better ride comfort, ergonomics, features (windshield, tech), price, and engineering (engine, transmission, primary, LEDS) but you choose the HD. Yeah, makes sense to me (sarc).

[@erics9754]

It's hard for Harley fanboys they really want to look cool and tough so badly and that's what they were told all their lives sheeple just do what sheeple do follow the pack they want to fit in so badly lol. This does not apply to all Harley people just about 80 percent of them lol I actually love the 2020 deluxe in pearl white best looking bike in recent years and what did Harley do discontinued it brilliant now their bikes are made in China or Mexico lol.

[@MrUNCLESAM84]

Polaris should bring back the Victory brand and run it parallel to Indian but as base models or what we can call "affordable" and make Indian to be the *luxurious* brand. kinda like we have Ford and Lincoln, Chevy and Cadillac, Honda and Acura plus Toyota and Lexus, it'll be Indian and Victory while Harley Davidson can still act like Mercedes Benz or BMW. This is a different Era with different generation that doesn't care where your stuff is made nor the history behind it, all they care about is reliability and price and to be honest Victory was known to be more reliable than Harley Davidson. I think if Polaris did that they'll crush Harley Davidson for sure.

[@nicalicious3002]

Why does everyone compare every bike to a Harley. Harley's are not good. Nor are they some sort of gold standard.

[@haydenthompson3112]

Street glad just looks way better

[@leemartin7341]

That's a fair comparison? A six year old Harley vs a New Indian, please!! They are both nice bikes but you are obviously very biased. No matter how hard you try to fake it. You did come to the best conclusion! Just saying. NEW HD Street Glide Special owner!!

[@HegshotRides]

I literally brought up very new feature a new Harley has and you must be new here because I have no reason to “fake” anything. I like what I like and tell it how I see it

[@leemartin7341]

@@HegshotRides not new, love your videos. But like you I tell it like I see it.

[@myronmosley2167]

I’ve ridden the 2022 street glide and the 2022 chieftain, the standard versions of both. The 107ci Harley and the 111ci Indian. The Chieftain definitely takes the cake on those two. As far as the limited, specials, dark horses and whatever non-standard versions, I can’t speak on. But the base models of both, that extra grand for the chieftain is worth it. Can’t afford the rich boy versions so I don’t want to test ride/rent one because I know I’ll fall in love with something I can’t afford lol. And for the record Im not a “Harley guy” or an “indian guy”, I LOVE both brands.

[@bigmanchris8693]

I brought a brand new Indian Chieftain Limited. And it was one of the worse decisions I’ve ever made. I was riding through a state where I was unfamiliar, when my bike went into limp mode. It only had 2,000 miles on it. The closest dealer was about 250-300 miles from where I was. I called the dealer to see if they could assist me with towing the bike to them since I was still under their fake ass warranty and they wouldn’t do anything to help. So I had to get the bike back at my expense. Then the tech at the dealer told me the bike couldn’t be fixed because Polaris had to build a new software for it 😮. I asked could they replace the bike since it needed new software and they told me they couldn’t. I asked how long would it take to build a new software, and they couldn’t answer my question. They expected me to keep a bike I couldn’t ride. People Please Stay Away from Indian/Polaris. I traded the Indian for a Road Glide Special.💯💯👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿🎯🎯🎯

[@NicePantsLance]

Sounds like the TBW connection issue that Harleys suffered from. It would cause HD's to go into limp mode, and HD's only solution was to replace the entire ECU

[@anthonypiscitelli531]

And that is why I bought a street glide special anniversary edition. Love this bike.

[@JohnDoe-nz6bk]

I call BS!

[@ChrisJones-kf1li]

That's good to know 🤔. Thanks for the review

[@whitebeltchamp1]

that was a great review. I lean towards Indian myself. But you really can’t go wrong with either one.

[@btsadventures4310]

When I was ready to ditch my Vulcan Vaquero, I contemplated getting either a gently used Indian Chieftan or Harley Street Glide. I really loved the Indian, the design, the “bang for your buck” factor, and the fact it wasn’t just another Street Glide. But I came across a 2019 SG with only a few thousand miles on it for a great “end of the season” price. I tested it out and fell in love all over again. So now the decision was difficult, but after going through all the research I could muster up on both bikes, it was clear which bike was the one…..the Harley. It had a much bigger following, dealer network, aftermarket accessories, and sex appeal. The Indian was nice, but it felt too…..fake? Idk, it just didn’t feel genuine. It felt like it was a rebadged Victory, which many other claim as well. The HD has more soul. I don’t regret my decision and have fell into the HD world rabbit hole. But that’s alright, I’m having a GREAT time. (Wallet, not so much 😂)

[@jamesmackinlay4477]

I was the same then I found out Harley went woke wok whatever no bullshit it hurts me to say it and the party they had in wis the singer at the concert screamed at the audience he dont want to be a American anymore then yelled fuck American and Harley endorsed this and all this is fact! So fuck Harley never buying another one.

[@derfskittlers6125]

Sheep.......jk

[@imanrobota4849]

Dunno, I don't think about Sex Appeal when looking at Harleys. I think: old fat dude and his old lady wrapped in leathers.

[@MrBurlybiker]

Street glide special is awesome!!! I also own a Road glide st! Great bike!!!

[@erics9754]

Great bikes for short people. Indian fits larger men better.

[@MrBurlybiker]

@@erics9754 I’m 6-2 235

[@cali5ive124]

Fun fact, with the M8 HD was able to quiet the engine down a bit so stock pipes could be a bit louder and still be compliant. The Indians though, hands down, cant argue, your dollar goes a lot further. Been really thinking about trading my Road Glide for a Challenger.

[@AllrevvedupRonny]

Bring back the vision.... that's right I said it.

[@ThePNWRiderWA]

Look at the fit and finish, and the quality of the paint used. Look at the amount of plastic versus metal. Look at any additional fees required such as subscriptions for the infotainment systems. And look at the aftermarket and the size of the dealer Network as well as the resale value. One company has been making motorcycles consistently for over 100 years except for a very brief. When they were a minority owner, the other company is known for snowmobile’s and ATVs and side-by-side’s. They have a history of abandoning customers in the case of victory. These high-end motorcycles are a very sizable investment for most, and there are a lot of other factors to look at besides the bells and whistles

[@erics9754]

Nah i looked at those things and still bought the superior bike the Indian lol.

[@danslawncare8594]

Thanks for the video. I have checking out the Indian to find that chrome is pealing off. The vibration in the foot boards is bad. The dealer support on the Indian is not good . No heal shifter option is no good. I will go with the Harley.

[@shadowknight99999]

I almost bought An Indian, but the major selling point on the Harley for me was the resale value if i ever wanted to upgrade.

[@randomstuffwithjoe]

Resale value is great no matter what bike you have right now. Supply chain issues have jacked up the cost of everything.. including used vehicles.

[@snakebite6511]

The main difference between Harley & Indian is that while Indian looks great, they are a throwaway , whereas Harley is a generational bike that can be passed down from generation to generation. Doesnt matter if you own an 80" Evo, Twin Cam 88, 96, 103 or 110, M8 107, 114, 117, you can get parts for all of these bikes. Indian, not so much I also dont like the feel of the Chieftain which feels plastic kinda like a Toyota and the dash is butt ugly, looks like Johnny 5 from short circuit. Paint is also not even close to the quality of Harley which is why Indian seems to be pushing the smoke colours because it hides flaws better

[@derfskittlers6125]

@@snakebite6511 how is the Indian a throw away bike? I'm hearing lots of good things about indian lately, giving harley some competition. Whether you're a harley or indian guy, competition is always good.

[@snakebite6511]

@@derfskittlers6125 competition is great and pushes other manufacturers. However, indian like the metric bikes have little to no aftermarket like Harley. With Harley you can rebuild a motor for almost any engine made by Harley but for sure going back to the Evo, TC 88, 96, 103, 110, I have 3 Harley’s and I can pass them down because there will be performance parts available for the next xxxx years. The metrics not so much (Indian included)

[@erics9754]

Yes I agree with that and I guess the reason that happened is because with Harleys the engines fail so often that there needs to be a huge after-market to keep them running Indian is so much more robust not so much need lol.@@snakebite6511

[@Rene-vy4uq]

Was soll das denn für ein Vergleich sein...2017 HD und 2022 Indian....voll daneben

[@freebehindbars8654]

There’s a reason many credit union’s will only issue loans on used HD’s, no other make. They hold their value and sell more than any other.

[@ironroad5549]

Not anymore my credit union had no problem with my $ 30,000 Indian.

[@freebehindbars8654]

@@ironroad5549 You bought a new $30k Indian?

[@derfskittlers6125]

@@freebehindbars8654 he probably got the pursuit, full dressed cruiser.

[@206-HoneyBadger]

I just traded in my 2020 HD for a brand new HD. I received $1k more than I paid for it while we're in a "recession." It's my 4th HD. I also sold my first HD for exactly what I paid for it 8 yrs later.

[@buck634329tm]

The Indian hands down, it's top dog.

[@roadassassin9445]

I love the Indian I own a Harley but I got both now

[@roadassassin9445]

I have a Harley and a Indian chieftains dark horse

[@4wdiesels]

I think you were fair. I felt the same way when I bought my '19 Electra Glide Standard. I probably could have gotten the Indian with all the goodies for the same $ but at the end of the day, H-D has been building these forever and they got it down. Both are good but 1 has been in business the entire time with an unbroken pedigree and the other is possibly trying to hard to be like the other when they should reinvent themselves(which they are attempting). I'd like too see more original designs from the Indian and more support with customization.

[@axelfoley5155]

Yeah but Harley davidson just recalled over 250,000 touring models. Also HD is known for there bike to break down often

[@4wdiesels]

@@axelfoley5155 I did not know that! I hope mines not included.

[@HegshotRides]

That started in the AMF days and isn’t close to true nor has it been for a long time

[@4wdiesels]

@@axelfoley5155 I just looked into that recall and yes a recall is a recall but it's for the brake light staying on! Come on dude. Kawasaki has had recalls to replace frames before. This isn't a big deal. I did not buy extended warranty on my bike and so far I have 10k 100% trouble free riding with my bike and I'm sure of many more trouble free miles. I do own over a dozen bikes, mostly Japanese sport bikes so I have experienced serious issues but the manufacturers always made things right.

[@HDR20]

@@axelfoley5155 Like Indians dont break down come on dude i have seen several. Here on the eastern US we dont see a lot of Indians, Maybe they dont sell well or the owners just dont ride but i have seen some broke down mainly electrical problems

[@swiss9632]

I went from a Harley 2016 to a Harley 2022. Big difference! I did that so I could use all my accessories, they all fit. I would have lost $3000 of accessories. Plus I got a hell of a trade in at McGrath harley davidson in Dubuque, Iowa.

[@goprojimbo5183]

I love my Harley Road King and Street Glide. Both run and handle great, and are a blast to ride. I do wish Harley was more competitive when it came to features that would not be that difficult to include, and I'm often frustrated with the way Harley nickle and dimes you to death. But I love the Harley branded lifestyle, aftermarket part availability, and dealer rider support. I also have friends with Indians with no complaints, and they are truly nice, feature rich bikes.

[@ashs4022]

I love my Indian. Always smile at the “value to price” I get. But I dislike greatly the “plastic” feel of the latches and finish…. I’ll be getting a Harley next. Harleys never let you down with fit and finish. Indian motor/power train are great. But each and every time, I’m frustrated when I get my cell phone and the lines don’t line up after I close the latch on fairing compartment….or grab my stuff out of saddle bags and when latched they still jostle. Indian fit and finish is a C at BEST. Harley is the standard A+ all aspire to. I’ll have both and enjoy both. Like a classic muscle car vs new-era muscle car. OG, steel, fit and finish…. Vs plastics and improved performance. Just my opinion.

[@erics9754]

Indian is the superior bike no doubt Harley fanboys disagree through bias people who desperately feel the need to fit in tend to buy Harley. Confident people who have good taste and do not care what others think tend to buy Indians based on wanting a superior product. Harley riders who try an Indian do not go back to Harley. Indian does Nickle and dime you to death both are guilty of this and both should put an end to it as their bikes are overpriced to begin with. Greed is the only reason they do it.

[@305motoriders2]

I watch your video it was a good comparison you gave the 2022 Indian an opportunity to compete with a 2017 Harley Street glide it's hard to compete with the ride of a Street glide and the aesthetics

[@martyboddie9953]

The Street Glide rear shocks are terrible. The air shock on the Indian is fantastic. The electric windshield on the Chieftain is amazing. The large floorboard on the Indian add to the comfort. The Harley does a much better job with heat management. Both are great bikes. It really comes down to looks.

[@bobbywilliamson6139]

Street glide just looks better 👍🏿

[@monsterrockers1575]

As shallow as this will sound, I like the HD aesthetics more, in the way of colors, color combinations as well as the myriad of different badging… Indian needs to provide more choices when building your ride… If it was solely based on performance, I do like how an Indian feels much lighter than it is, and the different ride modes are well represented… But all Indians look the same, HD motorcycles have more to offer that make them unique rides… BTW I own an Indian Chief Darkhorse, but I said what I said…

[@LesterSuarezGonzalez-dz9ns]

No doubt at all I stand with the Amazing Harley Davidson Streetglide!!!, Though The Indian Chieftain is also a very wonderful bike!!!

[@ericharrington2673]

You should be looking at the Kawasaki vaquero weigh less money way better quality

[@ShadowSolja]

Indian is a Canadian Bagger.

[@Sport--willow]

After very carefully researching the market and test riding many bikes large and small...... IMO.... each bike is the perfect bike! Each of them have their down falls and each have their great points! The PERFECT BIKE is the bike that you feel as though it is a part of you when you get on it to ride. If a person doesn't feel that when they ride, then son, let me tell ya what, you are not riding you perfect bike and you will not be happy until you do! RIDE FREE - DIE FREE

[@pastorjohnculbertson661]

I like both bikes and both companies. Indian's strong point is steering geometry, they feel more nimble than the comparable Harley Davidson models. Now Harley leads in the stereo quality and better looking lowers for sure.

[@YingYangStang]

Chieftain all the way

[@pats622]

Nice review but a comparison of a five year old standard Street Glide, versus a new (2022) Chieftain, is kind of silly. Comparing a same year Street Glide Special with the Chieftain would be a more worthwhile exercise. I've ridden a 2023 Chieftain and a 2023 Street Glide Special, all in the same day. These two bikes are comparably priced with comparable features and options and any buyer should probably look at both. I own a Street Glide Special but really like the Chieftain as well and thought it had some advantages, and a few disadvantages. Thanks for a thoughtful video and maybe update with similar year and featured bikes.

[@bryanbarshinger6971]

Indian all the way

[@georgewilson1184]

WHICH ONE ??? I would have said Excelcior & Henderson LOL just kidding seriously I like Indian just to be different But I require a Trike so I like Harley until Indian does a factory Trike. TPMS Tire pressure monitoring system just about everything today from Semis down to the cheapest little compact car has that feature

[@TheHighestGodisGood]

That original Street Glide style is just so beautiful to me. From the tank, to the fairing, to the bags, it's Harley for me. I have the twin cam HO 103, so my bike actually sounds good too lol

[@jeffhaynes1590]

I love my SG. Great review. I was considering the Indian and I may buy it for a second bike

[@robreynolds1172]

😂 HARLEY IS A HARLEY Indian is a POLARIS with Indian decals. Ultimate bike posers

[@christopherosully9456]

The Harley. The bars just to start. I don’t get this comparison though. Apples and oranges in year difference

[@derfskittlers6125]

Omg he explained that in the very beginning

[@christopherosully9456]

@@derfskittlers6125 thanks your so smart. Can I be smart like you? Please???????

[@cwnawnn9863]

Chieftain is a much better ride, infotainment and appearance. Not to mention take off 100 points for DEI. Guess we’ll see Mulvaney drinking a Bud Light on a Harley soon! LOL

[@awdadwadwad1723]

Indian’s cockpit is fucking ugly and fairing isn’t by miles as sexy as SGS batwing is. Sound wise… Harley is Harley. That’s why I ride one and always will be. Sure you have some more gimmicks on Indian, but who the hell needs electrical windscreen? You set it once and forget about it. And for slow rides you just open the vent!

[@erics9754]

The Roadmaster is super stable on the highway and rides smoother than any Harley I guess he never noticed the fact Indian has 4.5 to 5 inches of rear suspension travel and Harley has 2 or 2.5 seems he is not telling the truth on ride comfort because I noticed it after the first bump in the road on a Harley and when I rode the Roadmaster smooth as a Lincoln that's what sold me plus i got so much more on the Roadmaster better looks more chrome adjustable windshield key fob locking of trunk and saddle bags push start better stereo heated seats and grips and that beautiful 116 Thunderstroke engine how its layed out .Plus its not as common as a Harley everyone and his sister has one lol.

[@bobbywilliamson6139]

Street glide for me 💯👊🏾

[@erics9754]

The exhaust is fine unless you're looking for attention like a teenager who never got enough hugs from mommy or a wanna-be tough guy aching for attention. My Roadmaster is nice and quiet so I do not come across like a major ass wipe and annoy the neighbours. When I give throttle she wakes up and sounds mean perfect exhaust from the factory. I laugh at guys riding Harleys with loud obnoxious exhaust constantly blipping the throttle at red lights they have the mentality of a child lmao. I always ride mine in tour mode sport mode so smooth in that mode is too touchy in city traffic on the highway its fine but not necessary all it does is make the throttle travel less to get the same response it doe not make the bike faster like some fools think.

[@lennyjames65]

The Indian hands down..Sorry HD fan boys buy I just can't watch your channels anymore. I have both brands in my garage and I prefer my newly acquired Indian.

[@hdmoto3875]

I had a 2018 street glide, At the same time I purchased a 2019 chieftain dark horse, I prefer the ride on the Indian better, the Harley beat me up especially on rough roads and long distance I think the Indian, to me was more comfortable and a much better ride. So I ended up getting rid of my Harley, and I bought another Indian. As far as the aftermarket goes, I've found a lot of aftermarket accessories for my Indians. But I still have a Harley Roadking, so I still love Harleys, and always will.

[@ΑναστάσιοςΠαπαζαχαρίου]

How is the roadking on a long distance trip?

[@hdmoto3875]

@@ΑναστάσιοςΠαπαζαχαρίου It's not bad, my Road King is a lot more comfortable than my Street glide, I really was cramped on the Street glide, because I'm 6'2". I'm a little cramped on the Indians, and the Road king, but nothing like my Street glide.

[@2011k1500]

I owned a 2015 SGS. Yes, the mirrors look better built into the fairing. The issue is visibility is poor in them. They are too low. I hated them. I would much rather have the mirrors on the Indian.

[@fredcailloux2526]

I bought the new style Chieftain in 2019, I never had a stability problem on the highway like you! It’s the best bagger I’ve ever own. It’s now a total loss because of a "I didn’t see you" moron. I will purchase another new bagger , I just wait for 2024 HD and Indian color choice. Anything similar to HD "Glassy" River rock grey or my Indian "glassy" Steel gray will be consider :-)

[@Coletrainbaby]

Is it just me, or has harley lost come quality feel with the milwaukee? Every new one in the showroom doesnt have the same solid touch & feel that my fatboy does from 2014. Is it going downhill?

[@jimmiller82]

I’d like to see you do a Road King Special vs Springfield Dark Horse video. Those are the two I’m torn between.

[@rogermurph101]

Wow, the Chieftan is jarringly ugly. Locking the bags with a key fob doesn’t seem like a big deal to me. Those are objective issues though. Now that the 24’s have come out, I’d like to see this comparison again. Harley has really stepped up the game with what comes stock now, and bang for buck.

[@DH-pe5gt]

Go Indian! I own a 2021 Roadmaster. It's akin to driving a nimble recliner.

[@Sharky_On_The_Road]

I still like the 2018 Indian. Don`t like the looks of the 2019 and up bags and fairing. looks too much like a Harley. I see problems down the road with the new bad latches. With water damage on the left side from angle of latch not draining right. Sure, the new ones have the 116 from the 111. BUT. Heard of lots of problems with stalling when the rear cylinder deactivation activates. And with the bigger engine running hotter. oh and the fairing had highway lights already mounted in it. The new ones you will need to buy them and looks like an afterthought and changes air flow. After thousand's hours of wind tunnel testing for a smooth ride then stick that crap on. I will keep my 2018 till they change the look from whatever they tried to do.

[@lanejohnson7656]

Easy decision for me.. All your “more for your money added features” mean absolutely zero to me. Just more electronic things to go wrong. For under $200 I threw on a klock werks windshield that not only never needs adjusted, ZERO mechanical failures but also adds a cool look to the bike. Pretty much every time I look my bags am putting something in at least one of them and lock in seconds, Zero chance for electronic failure. TPMS, I have a tire gauge, I inspect my tires while I check pressure. Plus I often mount my tires myself and use beads as they give a wheel a clean look but also balance better. I’m not extremely lazy and I like to save money mounting my own tires and no weights on the outside of wheel. I not only think the Harley has a better look, you can do more with them and with Indian you are severely limited with color options. Harley offers far batter colors and paint designs..

[@SalRuggiero]

You should have the 2022 Indian vs 2022 harley , the harley is 5 years older than the Indian , I have the Indian . The Indian has more options , and more torque .

[@MrBackslider1]

Great content but you should compare a 22 Harley Davidson with a 22 Indian. 2017 HD was kinda unfair comparison.

[@Adjust-Fire-jy3dy]

It's really embarrassing that anyone would even compare anything to a Harley Davidson. Indian although American made, is just a glorified Japanese bike.

[@erics9754]

The windshield is too tiny unless you have an extremely short torso. I couldn't care less how cool some people think it looks. If it's functionally useless then it's useless. I have a RoadMaster and I chose the biggest goddamn windshield they have 21 inches and ride with it all the way up. I am 6ft 5 with a long torso and short legs well short for my height. It does its job of keeping the wind off my face and head and it looks fine to me. I am old so I could care less if people think it's not cool let them get blasted in the face with the wind looking cool. I also love all the chrome on my bike and hate the blacked-out soulless look that many people today like boring as hell in my humble opinion also another fad that needs to die rubberband thin profile tires. I value my back and like a smooth ride. If you are racing your bike on a track I get it but for the 99.9 percent of people tires on cars and bikes with larger sidewall profiles ride so much smoother and that's what I want. Big tires look goofy to me like something a 5 year old would want. Why would anyone with a luxury bike or car pick tires that take away from the smooth ride is that not why people buy luxury vehicles in the first place?

[@williamjohnson6517]

So I'll stick to my Harley's.I personally dont ever see Indians on the road where i live in the OBX and i only know of one small dealership. Plus the Bat wing is an icon as is the Harley brand compared to a brand that even though beat Harley by a couple of years hasn't really been around seriously for decades.I like the paint on the Indians but that frog eyed set up with the clocks being too far apart from one another and its overall Aesthetics does nothing for me on the Indians. Competition is good but i truly believe Indian will never overhaul Harley in numbers on the roads , dealerships or people rolling up to shows .😎

[@TheRisto2]

The indian dash looks cheap and porly designed...like something from the 1970:s. They Harley finish is outstanding.

[@shrek4759]

God, Never realized how outdated and old the chieftan instrument cluster looks

[@felixramirez]

Harley-Davidson engineers and designers are, in my opinion, the worst of any company.

[@bradwilliams7145]

You're lying to yourself if you pick the Harley... Enjoy your channel.

[@Diablo_Vegas]

Indian gives Veterans 1,000 off, and if they dont have the bike exactly the way you want it, they will find it for you. Harley is more "take it or leave it." Indian seems to be more accomodating than Harley.

[@tombstone2826]

It's personal preference to what you want to buy I've been on Harley baggers all my live and I ain't about to change for a polaris bike. Now the Indian Chieftain is a great looking bike and has a lot of modern electronics but it just ain't a Harley !

[@thomasrodgerd3672]

Hahaha A 5 year difference . Hmm how about comparing a 18 corvette to a 23 vette. Little bit of a difference

[@johnfreeman4292]

Must be Yank thing I took a Harley street Glide with a heal shifter .I just hated it I just used the front of it but then again I suppose a heal shifter gives you choice. But it one I can live with out.

[@felixramirez]

Dumb comparison between a new bike and a five year old bike.

[@billgraham4630]

To me the Harley all round looks better the Indian fairing is missing something the shape is wrong ,engines don't matter both have plenty to me it comes down to looks an this one goes to Harley From a yamaha rider!

[@garykcarpenter]

No access to a new Harley 🤔 I loved every bike I've owned.. not every bike I bought, some I sold asap

[@jeromehhuser]

Apples and oranges comparison. Compare similar years with similar motor size… a real amateur way of doing things

[@martincvitkovich724]

well Polaris has been making bikes just within the last few decades and their first attempt failed. So HD is the real winner here

[@hjfcoco]

This is like comparing mike Tyson to tyson fury, cmon, every one wants to be "like" the great

[@tommybrian1]

Indian all the way !!!

[@dthompson5478]

you can see where a lot of the Indians design was taken from the Vixctory XC

[@MrJusmobile]

HARLEY IS THE ONLY NAME I COULS SEE WHILE RIDING DOWN THE ROAD EVEN IF IT BURSTS INTO FLAMES, HAS TO BE A HARLEY!!

[@reesemccloud]

Indian is the original motorcycle. Don’t care that they went out of business

[@ecrusch]

Hard to compare bikes that are 5 years apart in age. That is a pretty big technical difference.

[@derfskittlers6125]

I like both bikes but that Indian instrument panel looks weird. Like a praying mantis is staring at me.